Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
This is the fault of today's role models as well as the parents of the
kids. I would like to think that each of us would like to be a role model
whether we intend to be or not, and we should be the role
with some ignorant ppl
Hi,
Well, it is a sad fact, but most of todays youth have completely
different values, roll models, and a completely different upbringing
than a generation ago. We all grow up trying to follow in the
footsteps of someone we greatly admire, and if that person is a
dirtbag we might
we play. They're all in fun, after all.
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In God we trust.
- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi,
Well, it is a sad fact
Hi Rich,
You said in your message, if the game doesn't play on an XBox 360,
Wii, or Plastation III the game doesn't exist. It is true that
mainstream game companies seam to be more focused on those three
platforms, but Windows is still a popular gaming platform too.
However, unlike the 1990's when
You don't have to put together a list of websites for blind gamers - our
Top 25 list at 7128.com lists all of the major sites for computer
games. It does not include console or online games that you might want
to include. But - I tend to agree that even rubbing their noses in the
fact that
Hi,
Well, it is a sad fact, but most of todays youth have completely
different values, roll models, and a completely different upbringing
than a generation ago. We all grow up trying to follow in the
footsteps of someone we greatly admire, and if that person is a
dirtbag we might think that is
Hi Orin,
Yeah, its called a double standard. On one hand blind people are seen
as somehow super human if we can play a piano, play games, or anything
else a sighted person can do. On the other hand we are totally
helpless barely able to go to the bath room ourselves. Instead of
placing us in the
Hi Darren,
Exactly. I don't know how many times I've been with a bunch of other
blind class mates and one of them would draw public attention to all
of us by rocking, poking his/her eyes, picking their nose, or some
other socially unacceptable way of drawing attention. I really really
hate that
: Ch.B. chr1...@gmx.de
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi all,
yes I realize you are probably right, not worth my time. But what irks me
to
no end is that now I am accused of being a fake poster, 'since when
with some ignorant ppl
Hi Orin,
Yeah, its called a double standard. On one hand blind people are seen
as somehow super human if we can play a piano, play games, or anything
else a sighted person can do. On the other hand we are totally
helpless barely able to go to the bath room ourselves. Instead
Hi Dark,
Yeah, I know. The retro gaming movement is certainly an interesting
aspect to PC gaming as it is directed towards old school gamers like
me who basically grew up with the Atari 2600, Colleco Vision,
Nintendo, Super NES, etc. Some of the Megaman games and Castlevania
games didn't have
. Yes social integration fails big
time if you ask me.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: 08 March 2010 20:06
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi Darren
I think Princess Diana was great. Really I do. The whole of England came to
a standstill on that day. I watched the whole precession to the funeral and
the car journey back to where she was berried. She was wonderful. Shame MI5
killed her. That's the general consensus over here anyway. So many
Hi, as far as rocking or eye poking is concerned, there must be some
perfectly reasonable explanation as to why it happens.
Even I am guilty of doing it. I guess it's because we have no visual
stimulation or something.
At 07:05 AM 9/03/2010, you wrote:
Hi Darren,
Exactly. I don't know how
well tom there are people on here, people like liam and raul and maybe others
that play consoles.
I have tried with sight but if you asked me to verse each in a battle well
match em I couldn't.
they are a class over me.
Hi Orin,
Yeah, its called a double standard. On one hand blind people are
Hi Tom.
this unfortunately sounds true. the only reason the Mega man series survived
is that they effectively split the franchize in two. the Batlenetwork games
and their sequal series are very much aimed at kids. They aren't even set in
the same universe as Mega man, in fact at the end
, 2010 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi Orin,
Yeah, its called a double standard. On one hand blind people are seen
as somehow super human if we can play a piano, play games, or anything
else a sighted person can do. On the other hand we are totally
helpless barely
well tom I can relate to this.
Its probably why people are encouraging braille devices over computers we start
sounding like them.
I must say poking eyes is a habit I have tried to break.
I also resent some of my other sences at times.
if i feel something in my nose or eyes it seems more annoying
well I also morn the retro gaming.
now my old dos box is dead I can't play most of these.
I have a friend that likes old music and that stuff from games i can play and I
do play said stuff.
Hi Dark,
Yeah, I know. The retro gaming movement is certainly an interesting
aspect to PC gaming as it is
: 08 March 2010 20:06
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi Darren,
Exactly. I don't know how many times I've been with a bunch of other blind
class mates and one of them would draw public attention to all of us by
rocking, poking his/her eyes, picking
Good grief! I spend four hours this morning reading (or at least having my
research assistant read), a ream of stuff on the social theory of disability
and intigration, for my phd, which is intended to defign disability,
then I get it on this list as well!
Aaaagh! ;D.
My own
20:06
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi Darren,
Exactly. I don't know how many times I've been with a bunch of other blind
class mates and one of them would draw public attention to all of us by
rocking, poking his/her eyes, picking their nose
well taking a cane does net people know you are blind but its secondary though
i have sometimes got to lazy to take it a thing I am trying to kerb.
ofcause weather you have a cane or not some don't care but not many at least.
At 12:41 p.m. 9/03/2010, you wrote:
Good grief! I spend four hours this
Hi Dark,
Yes, precisely my point. When I first lost my sight I was sent off to
a school for the blind that handled mainstream students as well as a
handful of students with various disabilities, and I absolutely hated
it. Not because they were trying to mix mainstream and disabled
students, but
Hi Tom.
to a large part I'd agree. The special school I went to for two years was so
contrived it was unbelieveable. Bells for everything, rules of doing things
on the hour every hour, about the only good thing you could say was the
educational standard was higher than normal.
then
Hi,
Kind of unusual request maybe.
You all probably read about the blind gamer who had someone help him finish
this Zelda ocarina of time game by himself.
Now this very topic came up on gamespot messageboard which I go to to read
but never posted to. I should have known better.
Anyway, ppl on
March 2010 10:31
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi,
Kind of unusual request maybe.
You all probably read about the blind gamer who had someone help him finish
this Zelda ocarina of time game by himself. Now this very topic came up on
gamespot messageboard
.
Sent: 07 March 2010 10:31
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi,
Kind of unusual request maybe.
You all probably read about the blind gamer who had someone help him
finish
this Zelda ocarina of time game by himself. Now this very topic came up on
gamespot
Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
It happens in the blind gaming community also.. To many Indians not enough
Chiefs..
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From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 07
I agree. You'll never convince them, and they'll continue to be obnoxious
for as long as they realize it annoys you. They're not worth your time.
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:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
I agree. You'll never convince them, and they'll continue to be obnoxious
for as long as they realize it annoys you. They're not worth your time.
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Hi all,
yes I realize you are probably right, not worth my time. But what irks me to
no end is that now I am accused of being a fake poster, 'since when are
blind ppl on the computer let alone internet'? can you believe such
ignorance. Cannot believe how narrow minded they are in regards to how
Of Ch.B.
Sent: 07 March 2010 17:43
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi all,
yes I realize you are probably right, not worth my time. But what irks me to
no end is that now I am accused of being a fake poster, 'since when are
blind ppl on the computer let
AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi,
Kind of unusual request maybe.
You all probably read about the blind gamer who had someone help him
finish
this Zelda ocarina of time game by himself.
Now this very topic came up on gamespot messageboard which I go to to read
but never
Hi Darren,
Exactly. I read a gaming article a year or so ago that pretty much
boiled down to the same thing. The game industry are targeting young
kids with little to know imagination so they put all of the effort
into cool sounds and graphics and totally skip the part that a game is
suppose to
darren_g_har...@btinternet.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Yes but that's the point, a lot of games these days are designed for kids
with little to no imaginations. That's why they concentrate
19:29
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi Darren,
Exactly. I read a gaming article a year or so ago that pretty much boiled
down to the same thing. The game industry are targeting young kids with
little to know imagination so they put all of the effort
, but the developer didn't listen,
and he got edventually sued.
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi Darren,
Exactly. I read
Plus, the sounds are video and crap made sounds that those developer's make.
- Original Message -
From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
Hi Darren,
Exactly. I read a gaming article a year or so ago that pretty much boiled
down to the same thing. The game industry are targeting young kids with
little to know imagination so they put all of the effort into cool
The sad part is hey are not uneducated about disabled people but topics in
general. I have been following the game board there for some time and it is
amazing how a bunch of kids can be so ignorant about all kinds of stuff.
And like I said they come up with stuff like yeah why would anyone
Hi,
just my two cents worth on this subject.
Unless you have some thick skin, ignoring them might be the best course of
action. it seems that educating them probably won't work. Most in part to the
fact that their eyes are open, but their ears are shut. Obviously, they are not
picking up what
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