Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Valiant, Here is the problem I was having. If you have a 64-bit program, and try to use a 32-bit voice the program will crash. For example, try to use 64-bit Jaws with an older 32-bit voice and it will blow up in your face big time. However, if you have a 32-bit game and use a 32-bit voice it s

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi all, I just wanted to let everyone know I was slightly wrong aboutsome things I said earlier on list. I said that the only 64-bit voices I knew of were Microsoft Anna, ESpeak, and a couple Loquendo voices. As it turns out I managed to get the Ivona voices working on 64-bit Windows 7, and I also

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Hayden Presley
ay 01, 2011 4:46 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT well I run 32 bit win7 on a 64 bit i3 system and its ok. probably only using half the power but oh well. At 10:15 p.m. 1/05/2011, you wrote: >Hi Shaun, > >Yeah, but you may find that hard to do. Wi

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread shaun everiss
well I run 32 bit win7 on a 64 bit i3 system and its ok. probably only using half the power but oh well. At 10:15 p.m. 1/05/2011, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Yeah, but you may find that hard to do. Windows 7 really does need a new computer to run remotely decently, and here where I am all you can buy i

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Valiant8086
I'm confused. I'm not having any problems. I had no idea they weren't working properly. Like I said I have two different win7 64 bit machines and I can use SAPI with games, with NVDA, JAWS and with Monkey Term client. I did have to update my MonkeyTerm scripts to support the changing of SAPI5 v

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Valiant8086
This is weird. Neospeech works great, as does AT&T natural voices. I had a tough time getting them installed, but once I figured out how they work without a hitch on 64bit. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.9 portable. On 4/30/2011 1:44 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: HiShane, Well, its not a Windows 7 VS Wi

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Valiant8086
Can't confirm. I can use any voice I've tried so far with no problem on either of two windows7 64 bit computers. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.9 portable. On 4/30/2011 10:24 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Philip, Thanks for the post. What you said makes a lot of sense. I have discovered myself that w

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Shane Lowe
oh okay Sorry for being stupid - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT HiShane, Well, its not a Windows 7 VS Windows XP problem though. It

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Philip, Yeah, I know. That's why I raised the issue. I know eventually there will be 64-bit compatible voices for Mac, Linux, and Windows eventually but right now we are in a transformation faze were the majority of software is geared for a 32-bit environment yet most of the systems you are lik

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Philip Bennefall
ve started doing over the last two weeks, but it would really be a blast to get rid of the tts. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Rega

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Yeah, but you may find that hard to do. Windows 7 really does need a new computer to run remotely decently, and here where I am all you can buy is 64-bit machines. They don't have a 32-bit machine in sight. You can purchase 32-bit Windows 7 upgrades for your older 32-bit computers, but t

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Sure, but at what cost to the end user? Wil I, for example, have to pay $30 per voice to update all of my Cepstral Swift voices to get the new 64-bit Swift voices or will they include it as a free upgrade? I doubt it. I'm sure they'll be some charge involved inupgrading from Swift 5.1 vo

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, No, it won't unfortunately. I got the same info from Nextup.com, and I wrote them back and let them know their so-called fix was specific to Vista not Win 7. There is no "classic view" in the Win 7 control panel. That feature was removed in Windows 7. They sent me a hack to type into the

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Philip, You are right, but I was just concerned about the fact that a lot of developers such as Jim Kitchen do use Sapi in their games and it would appear our choices for Sapi output on Windows 64-bit platforms are pretty much limited to Anna, ESpeak, or some of the high priced Lequendo voices

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-05-01 Thread shaun everiss
rted Text-to-Speech before. Ken White NextUp.com - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT HiShane, Well, its not a Windows 7 VS Windows XP problem thoug

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread shaun everiss
well this will have to change sooner or later. The companies have till 2020 to do that which is projected win7 lifecycle. After that no more 32 bit oses. At 05:53 a.m. 1/05/2011, you wrote: HI Ron, Oh, lovely. Although, I'm not surprised. We Linux users are in the same boat I'm afraid. ESpeak ha

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread shaun everiss
well it looks like then tom that when I upgrade to 7 I will request I have 32 bit. Even though this may mean me having to get and make driver cds of my stuff from toshiba. Hmmm at least I will get speech and such since sound still works by default. I found that quite usefull. On a new system we

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread shaun everiss
Hmmm I havn't tried tom but I know that the realspeak voices that come with jaws8, of which someone just gave me a bit ago will not load on 64 bit systems at all. And since the only non sapi 5.1 voices are done by ms, the only things we will be able to run are ms anna and maybe the lh stuff that

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm that must be a heck of a rewrite. But good it will be fixed. At 01:18 a.m. 1/05/2011, you wrote: Hi all, This message is intended for those of you who either write games in BGT that use Sapi, or play BGT based games that make use of it. There has been a long standing issue where certain

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Thomas, Here is another post in Nextup for Windows 7: Re: Change default pc voice in Win7 x64 by Jim Bretti ยป Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:43 pm The default voice in Windows is set on the Windows speech control panel, but an issue you're going to run into is that 64 bit versions of AT&T voices are not

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread Philip Bennefall
mas Ward" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT Hi Philip, Thanks for the post. What you said makes a lot of sense. I have discovered myself that when I was using C# .net to write the G3D engine I had no

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread Thomas Ward
HI Phil, Here's the problem with that tech support post. Its for Windows Vista not Windows 7. There is no classic view in the Windows 7 control panel!!! There is a hack available where you can type a command into run in Windows 7 to access the 32-bit control panel items, but even so if you set a

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread Phil Vlasak
To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT HiShane, Well, its not a Windows 7 VS Windows XP problem though. Its a 32-bit vs 64-bit problem. Alot of the Sapi 5 voices you can purchase from Nextup.com, Cepstral.com, Cer

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread Thomas Ward
HI Ron, Oh, lovely. Although, I'm not surprised. We Linux users are in the same boat I'm afraid. ESpeak has been upgraded to support 64-bit Linux, which is good since that's the default TTS Engine used by Orca, but all of the commercial voices I own like Fonix Dectalk, Cepstral voices, AT&T Voices

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread Thomas Ward
HiShane, Well, its not a Windows 7 VS Windows XP problem though. Its a 32-bit vs 64-bit problem. Alot of the Sapi 5 voices you can purchase from Nextup.com, Cepstral.com, Cereproc.com, etc have not been upgraded to support 64-bit Windows therefore a lot of Windows 7 users running new 64-bit platf

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread Ron Kolesar
still getting use to the Logitech f510 Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 10:24 AM To: "Philip Bennefall" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey]

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread Shane Lowe
yup... Same here I switched back from windows7 like... 2 months ago. Back on my good old xp now! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Philip Bennefall" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Philip, Thanks for the post. What you said makes a lot of sense. I have discovered myself that when I was using C# .net to write the G3D engine I had no issues with Sapi at all. Neospeech Kate, Neospeech Paul, etc worked fine. When I converted it to C++ those voices started giving me problems.

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread Shane Lowe
thanks much! This will be great! - Original Message - From: "Philip Bennefall" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:18 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT Hi all, This message is intended for those of you who either write ga

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread Bryan Peterson
hilip Bennefall" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 7:18 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT Hi all, This message is intended for those of you who either write games in BGT that use Sapi, or play BGT based games that make use of it. There has be

Re: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread dark
April 30, 2011 2:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT Hi all, This message is intended for those of you who either write games in BGT that use Sapi, or play BGT based games that make use of it. There has been a long standing issue where certain voices don't work well with

[Audyssey] Regarding sapi and BGT

2011-04-30 Thread Philip Bennefall
Hi all, This message is intended for those of you who either write games in BGT that use Sapi, or play BGT based games that make use of it. There has been a long standing issue where certain voices don't work well with BGT, obviously affecting all games written with it. For quite some time I ha