Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Hi Bryan, One day after many many rounds with a 12 gauge my shoulder was getting sore. My friend told me to just hold it with one hand against my hip. It surprised me, but it worked just fine. It was even fun. BFN Jim Effective Gun Control: Keep muzzle pointed at target. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Hi Jim, That's interesting. I've never been told to try that before. As far as shoulders getting sore my grandpa's old shotgun packs one heck of a kick. My step dad is, or was, a game hunter, and he tried it one time and it knocked him on his rear. Plus he had a pretty sore shoulder the next day. It was sort of funny to watch. Smile. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Bryan, One day after many many rounds with a 12 gauge my shoulder was getting sore. My friend told me to just hold it with one hand against my hip. It surprised me, but it worked just fine. It was even fun. BFN Jim Effective Gun Control: Keep muzzle pointed at target. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Hi Ryan, Laugh. That is a good point. Still Mysteries of the Ancients actually was never intended to be a side-scroller in the first place. I had originally designed it to be a 3d FPS title, one reason I am using the Genesis engine for it, and after much end user protest I made it a side-scroller since this was a replacement for Montezuma's Revenge. So in that respect because it is using the Genesis Engine any features available in the Genesis Engine can be made available to the game. Smile. Ryan Strunk wrote: In modern games a lot of emphasis has been placed on reality. Questions have been raised about everything from the precise way to shoulder a rifle to the patterns projectiles make when striking different hard surfaces. What exactly would it look like if a newspaper stand exploded? If the time in this setting is X, how big should this character's shadow be? Nevertheless, Mysteries of the Ancients is a throwback to an older-style game, and while realism is nice, we went for many years without it. Nobody ever asked Alucard how he managed to carry around dozens of swords, items of food, projectiles, etc. Even in Shades of Doom the size of one's inventory is limitless. Miriani is one thing; mainstream games are another. I don't think we need to worry about Angela finding explainable ways to pick up--let alone store--her various weapons. After is all said and done, it's just a game, and I assume the greatest part of the reason anyone is playing it is to escape reality. I'm okay with not being bogged down in endless details. Otherwise, Thomas better code consumable food and private corners for Angela. After all she's been in that temple a while, and nature is nature. Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Holding the gun against your hip does work. It's stable and the kick is nearer to your center of gravity, so won't affect you as much. --- Shepherds are the best beasts. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Jim, That's interesting. I've never been told to try that before. As far as shoulders getting sore my grandpa's old shotgun packs one heck of a kick. My step dad is, or was, a game hunter, and he tried it one time and it knocked him on his rear. Plus he had a pretty sore shoulder the next day. It was sort of funny to watch. Smile. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Bryan, One day after many many rounds with a 12 gauge my shoulder was getting sore. My friend told me to just hold it with one hand against my hip. It surprised me, but it worked just fine. It was even fun. BFN Jim Effective Gun Control: Keep muzzle pointed at target. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Hi Thomas, I liked the enter keys able to pick up objects, sort of like your left hand doing this while the space bar controlled your right hand holding weapons. If you are going for reality, then with two hands you should be able to pick up objects if you have a hand free. But if you are holding a weapon and have a torch burning, so have both hands occupied, then the enter pickup should be prevented. You could also prevent the taking of potions if you are holding a weapon and a torch too. If you don't have a torch burning your accuracy with the weapons should be less. I think these are not critical to getting the game out and could be added later to the engine. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Well perhaps if you were using the pistol you could do that but I've never met a shotgun that could be wielded with one hand. And the sword could also be two-handed. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Thomas, I liked the enter keys able to pick up objects, sort of like your left hand doing this while the space bar controlled your right hand holding weapons. If you are going for reality, then with two hands you should be able to pick up objects if you have a hand free. But if you are holding a weapon and have a torch burning, so have both hands occupied, then the enter pickup should be prevented. You could also prevent the taking of potions if you are holding a weapon and a torch too. If you don't have a torch burning your accuracy with the weapons should be less. I think these are not critical to getting the game out and could be added later to the engine. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
I've seen sawed off shotguns that are about as big as a large pistol that can be used one handed. But the weapon that could never be used one handed is the bow and arrow, unless it was a crossbow and then you would have to load and cock the bow with the other hand. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Well perhaps if you were using the pistol you could do that but I've never met a shotgun that could be wielded with one hand. And the sword could also be two-handed. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Thomas, I liked the enter keys able to pick up objects, sort of like your left hand doing this while the space bar controlled your right hand holding weapons. If you are going for reality, then with two hands you should be able to pick up objects if you have a hand free. But if you are holding a weapon and have a torch burning, so have both hands occupied, then the enter pickup should be prevented. You could also prevent the taking of potions if you are holding a weapon and a torch too. If you don't have a torch burning your accuracy with the weapons should be less. I think these are not critical to getting the game out and could be added later to the engine. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/10/09 18:30:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
The sword could be either one or two-handed depending on the type... whether it was a lighter thing like a shortsword or even a katana, or a heavier longsword, broadsword... or what have you. As for the shotgun, well, I can't say there... but I do agree on the bow being the one weapon that yo ucould never use one-handed. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! I've seen sawed off shotguns that are about as big as a large pistol that can be used one handed. But the weapon that could never be used one handed is the bow and arrow, unless it was a crossbow and then you would have to load and cock the bow with the other hand. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Well perhaps if you were using the pistol you could do that but I've never met a shotgun that could be wielded with one hand. And the sword could also be two-handed. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Thomas, I liked the enter keys able to pick up objects, sort of like your left hand doing this while the space bar controlled your right hand holding weapons. If you are going for reality, then with two hands you should be able to pick up objects if you have a hand free. But if you are holding a weapon and have a torch burning, so have both hands occupied, then the enter pickup should be prevented. You could also prevent the taking of potions if you are holding a weapon and a torch too. If you don't have a torch burning your accuracy with the weapons should be less. I think these are not critical to getting the game out and could be added later to the engine. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/10/09 18:30:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Hi Phil and all, Well, one of the primary reasons I asigned fire and pick up to the same key and joystick button is for ease of use when playing the game with a joystick or game pad. When you play the game a lot with a joystick like I do the player is limited to 10 to 12 buttons. So in order to do everything you can do on the keyboard many buttons have to share commands with something else by pressing at least two buttons down at the same time. Another way is by changing the buttons action or state by holstering or drawing a weapon as is often done in several mainstream games I know of. Bottom line, I guess I am developing the game from a mainstream perspective and enjoy playing the game with a joystick rather than depending on keyboard support as many accessible games often do. As a result I am certain there are many gamers here that find this way of doing things strange or overly complicated even though someone like myself is quite comfortable with it. Never-the-less it is no big deal to change it back to the way it was in beta 3 when you could press enter to pick up items and space fired a weapon. I'll just have to remap the joystick to include a pick up button and remove some other command from the joystick. Cheers. Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Thomas, I liked the enter keys able to pick up objects, sort of like your left hand doing this while the space bar controlled your right hand holding weapons. If you are going for reality, then with two hands you should be able to pick up objects if you have a hand free. But if you are holding a weapon and have a torch burning, so have both hands occupied, then the enter pickup should be prevented. You could also prevent the taking of potions if you are holding a weapon and a torch too. If you don't have a torch burning your accuracy with the weapons should be less. I think these are not critical to getting the game out and could be added later to the engine. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Hi Bryan, Those are some very good points/arguments in favor of holstering weapons before picking up items. After all any person using a shotgun is likely to steady it with one hand while using the other to pull the trigger. Another absolutely two-handed weapon is the bow. Your not going to have a hand free if using that weapon. As for the sword I imagine it to be a long sword similar to those used by Xena or Hercules on the television shows.Those certainly can be used one handed. Bryan Peterson wrote: Well perhaps if you were using the pistol you could do that but I've never met a shotgun that could be wielded with one hand. And the sword could also be two-handed. Gabba gabba hey! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Hi Phil, Hmmm...Yeah, but sawed off shotguns are illegal. Not sure how likely or unlikely it would be for Angela to find one in the tomb, but for the game purposes I was thinking of a standard 12-gage shotgun. Phil Vlasak wrote: I've seen sawed off shotguns that are about as big as a large pistol that can be used one handed. But the weapon that could never be used one handed is the bow and arrow, unless it was a crossbow and then you would have to load and cock the bow with the other hand. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Hi Thomas, I can imagine Angela holding a torch in one hand and a shotgun in the other. She comes along and sees a gold coin. She flips the torch up in the air, picks up the coin, puts it into her pocket then catches the torch. Then when she reaches the locked door she puts the torch in her teeth pulls out a key and unlocks the door. Maybe that's how she can fire the shotgun or an arrow while still holding the torch. Or how about if she slides the torch inside her bra and lets her chest hold on to it. But that would interfere with her vision. Maybe she duck tapes the torch on to the back of her head. Or how about the torches being bulls eye lanterns with head straps. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Phil, Hmmm...Yeah, but sawed off shotguns are illegal. Not sure how likely or unlikely it would be for Angela to find one in the tomb, but for the game purposes I was thinking of a standard 12-gage shotgun. Phil Vlasak wrote: I've seen sawed off shotguns that are about as big as a large pistol that can be used one handed. But the weapon that could never be used one handed is the bow and arrow, unless it was a crossbow and then you would have to load and cock the bow with the other hand. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.63/2169 - Release Date: 06/11/09 05:53:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
As this is an ancient greek temple, any sort of catana would seem very out of place, - sinse why would even a Japanese explorer take a Catana into the temple with them? I'd personally guess the sword would be a gladius, a short one handed weapon later adopted by the romans for both their gladiators (hence the name), and soldiers in the Roman army. I'm guessing that like the bow and arrow, the sword is a wrelic of the temple, rather than something which was lost by previous unsuccessful explorers like all the fire arms and amo. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! The sword could be either one or two-handed depending on the type... whether it was a lighter thing like a shortsword or even a katana, or a heavier longsword, broadsword... or what have you. As for the shotgun, well, I can't say there... but I do agree on the bow being the one weapon that yo ucould never use one-handed. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! I've seen sawed off shotguns that are about as big as a large pistol that can be used one handed. But the weapon that could never be used one handed is the bow and arrow, unless it was a crossbow and then you would have to load and cock the bow with the other hand. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Well perhaps if you were using the pistol you could do that but I've never met a shotgun that could be wielded with one hand. And the sword could also be two-handed. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Thomas, I liked the enter keys able to pick up objects, sort of like your left hand doing this while the space bar controlled your right hand holding weapons. If you are going for reality, then with two hands you should be able to pick up objects if you have a hand free. But if you are holding a weapon and have a torch burning, so have both hands occupied, then the enter pickup should be prevented. You could also prevent the taking of potions if you are holding a weapon and a torch too. If you don't have a torch burning your accuracy with the weapons should be less. I think these are not critical to getting the game out and could be added later to the engine. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/10/09 18:30:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list
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As I said, I like the weaponry management of the game, and having no weapon (as needed for jumping), is just another part of that. It's probably slightly late in the game for another suggestion, but how about having draw/pickup as enter and action as space? This would seem more logical to me, sinse it would let you act with just the space bar, but have the ability to draw a wepon nice and quickly with an obvious key, rather than having to scrabble for w in a hurry. Then again, as a long time player of the Graphical Mega man series, using menues to switch weapons is quite okay with me as well so I usually just use the tab key. Just a thought. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Phil and all, Well, one of the primary reasons I asigned fire and pick up to the same key and joystick button is for ease of use when playing the game with a joystick or game pad. When you play the game a lot with a joystick like I do the player is limited to 10 to 12 buttons. So in order to do everything you can do on the keyboard many buttons have to share commands with something else by pressing at least two buttons down at the same time. Another way is by changing the buttons action or state by holstering or drawing a weapon as is often done in several mainstream games I know of. Bottom line, I guess I am developing the game from a mainstream perspective and enjoy playing the game with a joystick rather than depending on keyboard support as many accessible games often do. As a result I am certain there are many gamers here that find this way of doing things strange or overly complicated even though someone like myself is quite comfortable with it. Never-the-less it is no big deal to change it back to the way it was in beta 3 when you could press enter to pick up items and space fired a weapon. I'll just have to remap the joystick to include a pick up button and remove some other command from the joystick. Cheers. Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Thomas, I liked the enter keys able to pick up objects, sort of like your left hand doing this while the space bar controlled your right hand holding weapons. If you are going for reality, then with two hands you should be able to pick up objects if you have a hand free. But if you are holding a weapon and have a torch burning, so have both hands occupied, then the enter pickup should be prevented. You could also prevent the taking of potions if you are holding a weapon and a torch too. If you don't have a torch burning your accuracy with the weapons should be less. I think these are not critical to getting the game out and could be added later to the engine. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Yeah, I fully intend to go into detail about the weapons at some point when i complete the user's guide. It, like the game, is a work in progress and personally writing manuals aren't my thing. One of those necessary evils. Grin. dark wrote: Hi Tom. I like, particularly the way that item frequency is down, it makes the game significantly different not knowing what weapons you've got. When you eventually list weapons in the game's manual, how about a range list? I love the aspect of using specific weapons on specific enemies, and found myself just pistolling skeletons and saving the big guns for the big nasties. I also approve of the ducking sound effect, though I believe that was in earlier. I ended up by just going a bit loopy against the cyclopse, sinse I'd just run out of mp5 amo, so i basically went in all guns blazing with a couple of potions under my belt in case he beat me around, which stratogy worked. As always, certainly looking forward to more levels and the game's final release, I think it's going to be a big day when you get this one out the door. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Historically speaking a lot of Greek soldiers carried a short sword called a hoplite. The hoplites carried by military officers were as much a work of art as a weapon as they were often decorated with fancy hilts, golden scabbards, and had all kinds of mythical imagery engraved on them. They were pretty nice weapons although Greek soldiers specialized in spears and shields rather than swords. So I'd say the sword in this game should be a hoplite or something similar. dark wrote: As this is an ancient greek temple, any sort of catana would seem very out of place, - sinse why would even a Japanese explorer take a Catana into the temple with them? I'd personally guess the sword would be a gladius, a short one handed weapon later adopted by the romans for both their gladiators (hence the name), and soldiers in the Roman army. I'm guessing that like the bow and arrow, the sword is a wrelic of the temple, rather than something which was lost by previous unsuccessful explorers like all the fire arms and amo. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Phil, Hahahahaha. That was funny as usual. Though, well pointed. It is very hard to add realism to the game because of though very reasons. Either the weapon or the torch has to go somewhere else to fre up a hand to do something else. Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Thomas, I can imagine Angela holding a torch in one hand and a shotgun in the other. She comes along and sees a gold coin. She flips the torch up in the air, picks up the coin, puts it into her pocket then catches the torch. Then when she reaches the locked door she puts the torch in her teeth pulls out a key and unlocks the door. Maybe that's how she can fire the shotgun or an arrow while still holding the torch. Or how about if she slides the torch inside her bra and lets her chest hold on to it. But that would interfere with her vision. Maybe she duck tapes the torch on to the back of her head. Or how about the torches being bulls eye lanterns with head straps. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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True. A longsword might be a one-handed weapon but depending on the wielder's physical strength they might need the other hand to lend support if not direction. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Bryan, Those are some very good points/arguments in favor of holstering weapons before picking up items. After all any person using a shotgun is likely to steady it with one hand while using the other to pull the trigger. Another absolutely two-handed weapon is the bow. Your not going to have a hand free if using that weapon. As for the sword I imagine it to be a long sword similar to those used by Xena or Hercules on the television shows.Those certainly can be used one handed. Bryan Peterson wrote: Well perhaps if you were using the pistol you could do that but I've never met a shotgun that could be wielded with one hand. And the sword could also be two-handed. Gabba gabba hey! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Ah yes. I've used both 12 and 20-guage shotguns ad the recoil alone pretty much demands that you use both hands. Not only that but they're pretty heavy to try to use or even carry one-handed. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Phil, Hmmm...Yeah, but sawed off shotguns are illegal. Not sure how likely or unlikely it would be for Angela to find one in the tomb, but for the game purposes I was thinking of a standard 12-gage shotgun. Phil Vlasak wrote: I've seen sawed off shotguns that are about as big as a large pistol that can be used one handed. But the weapon that could never be used one handed is the bow and arrow, unless it was a crossbow and then you would have to load and cock the bow with the other hand. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Sorry Phil, but unless she was suicidal I couldn't see her doing that with a lighted torch. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Thomas, I can imagine Angela holding a torch in one hand and a shotgun in the other. She comes along and sees a gold coin. She flips the torch up in the air, picks up the coin, puts it into her pocket then catches the torch. Then when she reaches the locked door she puts the torch in her teeth pulls out a key and unlocks the door. Maybe that's how she can fire the shotgun or an arrow while still holding the torch. Or how about if she slides the torch inside her bra and lets her chest hold on to it. But that would interfere with her vision. Maybe she duck tapes the torch on to the back of her head. Or how about the torches being bulls eye lanterns with head straps. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Phil, Hmmm...Yeah, but sawed off shotguns are illegal. Not sure how likely or unlikely it would be for Angela to find one in the tomb, but for the game purposes I was thinking of a standard 12-gage shotgun. Phil Vlasak wrote: I've seen sawed off shotguns that are about as big as a large pistol that can be used one handed. But the weapon that could never be used one handed is the bow and arrow, unless it was a crossbow and then you would have to load and cock the bow with the other hand. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.63/2169 - Release Date: 06/11/09 05:53:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, will all versions of Vista work? Thanks - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Dark, Yeah, I fully intend to go into detail about the weapons at some point when i complete the user's guide. It, like the game, is a work in progress and personally writing manuals aren't my thing. One of those necessary evils. Grin. dark wrote: Hi Tom. I like, particularly the way that item frequency is down, it makes the game significantly different not knowing what weapons you've got. When you eventually list weapons in the game's manual, how about a range list? I love the aspect of using specific weapons on specific enemies, and found myself just pistolling skeletons and saving the big guns for the big nasties. I also approve of the ducking sound effect, though I believe that was in earlier. I ended up by just going a bit loopy against the cyclopse, sinse I'd just run out of mp5 amo, so i basically went in all guns blazing with a couple of potions under my belt in case he beat me around, which stratogy worked. As always, certainly looking forward to more levels and the game's final release, I think it's going to be a big day when you get this one out the door. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Bryan, Do you mean the throwing the lit torch in the air and catching it? Jugglers do that all the time. I was just making a joke about dealing with too many things in her hands. Phil - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Sorry Phil, but unless she was suicidal I couldn't see her doing that with a lighted torch. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Thomas, I can imagine Angela holding a torch in one hand and a shotgun in the other. She comes along and sees a gold coin. She flips the torch up in the air, picks up the coin, puts it into her pocket then catches the torch. Then when she reaches the locked door she puts the torch in her teeth pulls out a key and unlocks the door. Maybe that's how she can fire the shotgun or an arrow while still holding the torch. Or how about if she slides the torch inside her bra and lets her chest hold on to it. But that would interfere with her vision. Maybe she duck tapes the torch on to the back of her head. Or how about the torches being bulls eye lanterns with head straps. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Phil, Hmmm...Yeah, but sawed off shotguns are illegal. Not sure how likely or unlikely it would be for Angela to find one in the tomb, but for the game purposes I was thinking of a standard 12-gage shotgun. Phil Vlasak wrote: I've seen sawed off shotguns that are about as big as a large pistol that can be used one handed. But the weapon that could never be used one handed is the bow and arrow, unless it was a crossbow and then you would have to load and cock the bow with the other hand. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.63/2169 - Release Date: 06/11/09 05:53:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.63/2169 - Release Date: 06/11/09 05:53:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Carrying it in her teeth? Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Bryan, Do you mean the throwing the lit torch in the air and catching it? Jugglers do that all the time. I was just making a joke about dealing with too many things in her hands. Phil - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Sorry Phil, but unless she was suicidal I couldn't see her doing that with a lighted torch. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Thomas, I can imagine Angela holding a torch in one hand and a shotgun in the other. She comes along and sees a gold coin. She flips the torch up in the air, picks up the coin, puts it into her pocket then catches the torch. Then when she reaches the locked door she puts the torch in her teeth pulls out a key and unlocks the door. Maybe that's how she can fire the shotgun or an arrow while still holding the torch. Or how about if she slides the torch inside her bra and lets her chest hold on to it. But that would interfere with her vision. Maybe she duck tapes the torch on to the back of her head. Or how about the torches being bulls eye lanterns with head straps. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Phil, Hmmm...Yeah, but sawed off shotguns are illegal. Not sure how likely or unlikely it would be for Angela to find one in the tomb, but for the game purposes I was thinking of a standard 12-gage shotgun. Phil Vlasak wrote: I've seen sawed off shotguns that are about as big as a large pistol that can be used one handed. But the weapon that could never be used one handed is the bow and arrow, unless it was a crossbow and then you would have to load and cock the bow with the other hand. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.63/2169 - Release Date: 06/11/09 05:53:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.63/2169 - Release Date: 06/11/09 05:53:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman
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Hi, Yeah, and I am still laughing about stuffing the torch down her bra. In reality she'd end up likely burning her face trying that stunt. Lol! Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Bryan, Do you mean the throwing the lit torch in the air and catching it? Jugglers do that all the time. I was just making a joke about dealing with too many things in her hands. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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hmmm some of those tings would be cool, if she could do it. At 03:32 a.m. 12/06/2009, you wrote: Hi Thomas, I can imagine Angela holding a torch in one hand and a shotgun in the other. She comes along and sees a gold coin. She flips the torch up in the air, picks up the coin, puts it into her pocket then catches the torch. Then when she reaches the locked door she puts the torch in her teeth pulls out a key and unlocks the door. Maybe that's how she can fire the shotgun or an arrow while still holding the torch. Or how about if she slides the torch inside her bra and lets her chest hold on to it. But that would interfere with her vision. Maybe she duck tapes the torch on to the back of her head. Or how about the torches being bulls eye lanterns with head straps. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Phil, Hmmm...Yeah, but sawed off shotguns are illegal. Not sure how likely or unlikely it would be for Angela to find one in the tomb, but for the game purposes I was thinking of a standard 12-gage shotgun. Phil Vlasak wrote: I've seen sawed off shotguns that are about as big as a large pistol that can be used one handed. But the weapon that could never be used one handed is the bow and arrow, unless it was a crossbow and then you would have to load and cock the bow with the other hand. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.63/2169 - Release Date: 06/11/09 05:53:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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The katana was only used as an example... I would be the first to say finding a katana in a temple would be weird to say the least. I kind of figured the gladius would be it though, otherwise just your standard short sword. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! As this is an ancient greek temple, any sort of catana would seem very out of place, - sinse why would even a Japanese explorer take a Catana into the temple with them? I'd personally guess the sword would be a gladius, a short one handed weapon later adopted by the romans for both their gladiators (hence the name), and soldiers in the Roman army. I'm guessing that like the bow and arrow, the sword is a wrelic of the temple, rather than something which was lost by previous unsuccessful explorers like all the fire arms and amo. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! The sword could be either one or two-handed depending on the type... whether it was a lighter thing like a shortsword or even a katana, or a heavier longsword, broadsword... or what have you. As for the shotgun, well, I can't say there... but I do agree on the bow being the one weapon that yo ucould never use one-handed. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! I've seen sawed off shotguns that are about as big as a large pistol that can be used one handed. But the weapon that could never be used one handed is the bow and arrow, unless it was a crossbow and then you would have to load and cock the bow with the other hand. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Well perhaps if you were using the pistol you could do that but I've never met a shotgun that could be wielded with one hand. And the sword could also be two-handed. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Thomas, I liked the enter keys able to pick up objects, sort of like your left hand doing this while the space bar controlled your right hand holding weapons. If you are going for reality, then with two hands you should be able to pick up objects if you have a hand free. But if you are holding a weapon and have a torch burning, so have both hands occupied, then the enter pickup should be prevented. You could also prevent the taking of potions if you are holding a weapon and a torch too. If you don't have a torch burning your accuracy with the weapons should be less. I think these are not critical to getting the game out and could be added later to the engine. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/10/09 18:30:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers
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In modern games a lot of emphasis has been placed on reality. Questions have been raised about everything from the precise way to shoulder a rifle to the patterns projectiles make when striking different hard surfaces. What exactly would it look like if a newspaper stand exploded? If the time in this setting is X, how big should this character's shadow be? Nevertheless, Mysteries of the Ancients is a throwback to an older-style game, and while realism is nice, we went for many years without it. Nobody ever asked Alucard how he managed to carry around dozens of swords, items of food, projectiles, etc. Even in Shades of Doom the size of one's inventory is limitless. Miriani is one thing; mainstream games are another. I don't think we need to worry about Angela finding explainable ways to pick up--let alone store--her various weapons. After is all said and done, it's just a game, and I assume the greatest part of the reason anyone is playing it is to escape reality. I'm okay with not being bogged down in endless details. Otherwise, Thomas better code consumable food and private corners for Angela. After all she's been in that temple a while, and nature is nature. Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Hi Tom. I've tried twice to download the new mota beta but it won't complete. It'll get to 99 percent and just stop. I haven't had that problem with other files I've snarfed down today so you may want to take a quick look. Michael Feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Greetings gamers, At long last Mysteries of the ancients beta 5 has been released. Do to technical details we were unable to make available the cross platform version at this time so we have elected to go ahead and release the Windows only version instead. Please, remember to uninstall beta 4 before upgrading to this release. What's New Arcade mode is no longer available in this release. Several keyboard commands have been changed. Most menus now have keyboard shortcuts. Fixed several miner bugs. Updated the game documentation. Download http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/products.php Happy Gaming. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4145 (20090610) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Michael, I've downloaded and played the new version of MOTA with no problems. I did note that there is no Cyclopes in the sound review. phil - Original Message - From: Michael Feir michael.f...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Tom. I've tried twice to download the new mota beta but it won't complete. It'll get to 99 percent and just stop. I haven't had that problem with other files I've snarfed down today so you may want to take a quick look. Michael Feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Greetings gamers, At long last Mysteries of the ancients beta 5 has been released. Do to technical details we were unable to make available the cross platform version at this time so we have elected to go ahead and release the Windows only version instead. Please, remember to uninstall beta 4 before upgrading to this release. What's New Arcade mode is no longer available in this release. Several keyboard commands have been changed. Most menus now have keyboard shortcuts. Fixed several miner bugs. Updated the game documentation. Download http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/products.php Happy Gaming. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4145 (20090610) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/10/09 18:30:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I don't think he's ever been there though. Would bosses count? Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Michael, I've downloaded and played the new version of MOTA with no problems. I did note that there is no Cyclopes in the sound review. phil - Original Message - From: Michael Feir michael.f...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Tom. I've tried twice to download the new mota beta but it won't complete. It'll get to 99 percent and just stop. I haven't had that problem with other files I've snarfed down today so you may want to take a quick look. Michael Feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Greetings gamers, At long last Mysteries of the ancients beta 5 has been released. Do to technical details we were unable to make available the cross platform version at this time so we have elected to go ahead and release the Windows only version instead. Please, remember to uninstall beta 4 before upgrading to this release. What's New Arcade mode is no longer available in this release. Several keyboard commands have been changed. Most menus now have keyboard shortcuts. Fixed several miner bugs. Updated the game documentation. Download http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/products.php Happy Gaming. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4145 (20090610) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/10/09 18:30:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I'm downloading it now so we'll see. Could be an issue with your connection. I remember not long back I was using wireless internet with a Belkin router. If the mods will excuse the language it was always hell do download even a relatively small file. It would et to a certai point and then just sit there. Fortunately with Firefox you ca click the Pause button in that downloads dialogue box and then click Resume to start the download up again. The only problem was that you had to keep doing this every few seconds if you wanted to download the entire file. Unfortunately however, if you attempted to download particularly large files such as the NLS downloadable books or even some audio games, you couldn't do this. You could certainly pause te download once it stopped transferring, but if you clicked Resume you would sometimes get a Download Error message. Of course your situation could be different for all I know. I just know it used to happen to me all the time, at least until the Belkin router finally bit the dust and I replaced it with a Linksys. So far it's worked just fine for good sized game downloads. I could never have downloaded one of these Betas on the old network. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Michael Feir michael.f...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Tom. I've tried twice to download the new mota beta but it won't complete. It'll get to 99 percent and just stop. I haven't had that problem with other files I've snarfed down today so you may want to take a quick look. Michael Feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Greetings gamers, At long last Mysteries of the ancients beta 5 has been released. Do to technical details we were unable to make available the cross platform version at this time so we have elected to go ahead and release the Windows only version instead. Please, remember to uninstall beta 4 before upgrading to this release. What's New Arcade mode is no longer available in this release. Several keyboard commands have been changed. Most menus now have keyboard shortcuts. Fixed several miner bugs. Updated the game documentation. Download http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/products.php Happy Gaming. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4145 (20090610) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Hi Michael, Ok, I just downloaded the game and it doesn't appear to be a problem with the server or the file. Must be a bad connection. Try rebooting your system and see if you can download it. If you are using Firefox you can click the pause button in the download window and then click resume to try and force it to complete the download. HTH Michael Feir wrote: Hi Tom. I've tried twice to download the new mota beta but it won't complete. It'll get to 99 percent and just stop. I haven't had that problem with other files I've snarfed down today so you may want to take a quick look. Michael Feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Hi Phil, Hmmm...You are right there is no cyclops in the sound descriptions menu. I can add him to the menu in the next release. Smile. Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Michael, I've downloaded and played the new version of MOTA with no problems. I did note that there is no Cyclopes in the sound review. phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Yeah, I suppose bosses should be in the sound descriptions menu to. I just didn't think about it before so I never added the cyclops and other planned bosses to the sound menu. Cheers. Bryan Peterson wrote: I don't think he's ever been there though. Would bosses count? Gabba gabba hey! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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You have to be careful with that though, especially with bigger files. Sometimes when you click Resume you can get a Download Error message. I know that from personal experience. As I say in another message I had to fight with my old wireless network to download even a fairly small file. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi Michael, Ok, I just downloaded the game and it doesn't appear to be a problem with the server or the file. Must be a bad connection. Try rebooting your system and see if you can download it. If you are using Firefox you can click the pause button in the download window and then click resume to try and force it to complete the download. HTH Michael Feir wrote: Hi Tom. I've tried twice to download the new mota beta but it won't complete. It'll get to 99 percent and just stop. I haven't had that problem with other files I've snarfed down today so you may want to take a quick look. Michael Feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
well I just got it fine, although I used getright on it. At 11:31 a.m. 11/06/2009, you wrote: Hi Michael, Ok, I just downloaded the game and it doesn't appear to be a problem with the server or the file. Must be a bad connection. Try rebooting your system and see if you can download it. If you are using Firefox you can click the pause button in the download window and then click resume to try and force it to complete the download. HTH Michael Feir wrote: Hi Tom. I've tried twice to download the new mota beta but it won't complete. It'll get to 99 percent and just stop. I haven't had that problem with other files I've snarfed down today so you may want to take a quick look. Michael Feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I'm curious to meet these bosses. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi, Yeah, I suppose bosses should be in the sound descriptions menu to. I just didn't think about it before so I never added the cyclops and other planned bosses to the sound menu. Cheers. Bryan Peterson wrote: I don't think he's ever been there though. Would bosses count? Gabba gabba hey! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released!
Really hope the mac version of this comes soon as I can't get windows at this time. Mike On Jun 10, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Greetings gamers, At long last Mysteries of the ancients beta 5 has been released. Do to technical details we were unable to make available the cross platform version at this time so we have elected to go ahead and release the Windows only version instead. Please, remember to uninstall beta 4 before upgrading to this release. What's New Arcade mode is no longer available in this release. Several keyboard commands have been changed. Most menus now have keyboard shortcuts. Fixed several miner bugs. Updated the game documentation. Download http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/products.php Happy Gaming. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, So am I since the cyclops is the only one added so far. Others haven't been added yet. Bryan Peterson wrote: I'm curious to meet these bosses. Gabba gabba hey! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Sorry, but the Mac and Linux versions won't be out any time in the near future. We have had some rather serious technical issues that lead to us deciding to shelve the cross platform versions. I can't say when we will take them up again. All I do know is that the Windows releases of Raceway and Mysteries of the Ancients are a much higher priority for us now. Mike Reiser wrote: Really hope the mac version of this comes soon as I can't get windows at this time. Mike --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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It does sort of remind me of a old NES game called Battle of Olympus, though that game's story was quite different. It was basically a retelling of the old story of Orpheus and Euridice, although she was naed Helene in the game's manual. As such your mission was to travel throughout Greece, finding items until you could open the way down to Tartarus. The main differences were the fact that Orpheus doesn't fail to rescue his love and you actually had to fight Hades at the end of the game. You did, however, get to meet quite a few familiar gods along your way, Zeus not the least. And then of course you got to face such bosses as the Cyclops, the Hydra , the three Grea sisters (SP?), the Siren and of course Cerberus. It was quite a fun game, albeit extremely infuriating at times. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Hi, So am I since the cyclops is the only one added so far. Others haven't been added yet. Bryan Peterson wrote: I'm curious to meet these bosses. Gabba gabba hey! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tojm. I like, particularly the way that item frequency is down, it makes the game significantly different not knowing what weapons you've got. When you eventually list weapons in the game's manual, how about a range list? I love the aspect of using specific weapons on specific enemies, and found myself just pistolling skeletons and saving the big guns for the big nasties. I also approve of the ducking sound effect, though I believe that was in earlier. I ended up by just going a bit loopy against the cyclopse, sinse I'd just run out of mp5 amo, so i basically went in all guns blazing with a couple of potions under my belt in case he beat me around, which stratogy worked. As always, certainly looking forward to more levels and the game's final release, I think it's going to be a big day when you get this one out the door. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:09 PM Subject: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 5 Released! Greetings gamers, At long last Mysteries of the ancients beta 5 has been released. Do to technical details we were unable to make available the cross platform version at this time so we have elected to go ahead and release the Windows only version instead. Please, remember to uninstall beta 4 before upgrading to this release. What's New Arcade mode is no longer available in this release. Several keyboard commands have been changed. Most menus now have keyboard shortcuts. Fixed several miner bugs. Updated the game documentation. Download http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/products.php Happy Gaming. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
