To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question about games
Hi Charles,
Well, this isn't necessarily about game complexity or challenge, but
how we, as game developers, can convey the same
from
dos to windows.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question about games
Not necessarily relevant
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question about games
My concern with vocal kews is that the game basically turns into a
glorified mud, ie, a set of real time events represented only by
explanations of those events in voice
Hi Dark,
Yeah, the ledges only drip when you are within a certain rrange of the
ledge. They don't necessarily drip if you are under them, or if they
are too far to reach. The best case example I can think of for this is
when you climb the rope from room 2 up into room 3, on the first
level, when
Agreed Tom.
Dynaman and packman talks are actually in the odd catagory of being classic
arcade games with a first person view. A couple of crasier retro games
designers and more bizarre mainstream games have done this (there was a ps2
game of 3D space invaders), but generally it doesn't
Hi.
yes this makes plenty of sense now. Thanks much
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From: Thomas Ward
To: Gamers Discussion list
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question about games
Hi
Hi Dark,
Yeah, I've been doing a lot of thinking about that myself of late.
After my recent survey you and others have convinced me there is still
a large market in the audio games community for side-scroller based
games. That in turn made me think of things that have been done in
mainstream
Hi Tom.
To be honest, while Tmnt (like turrican or metroid), was very advanced for
alternate routes, it even featured different perspectives in levels, I
was thinking on a much smaller and less profound scale with my example.
To put it another way, in all the audio side scrollers thus
Hi Dark,
Yes, good point. I know exactly what you mean. About the best example
I can think of to relate to what you are talking about is Tomb Raider
Prophecy.
As you may or may not know Tomb Raider Prophecy was a side-scroller
released in the late 1990's for the Nintendo Gameboy. While there were
Well Tom, I've not really heard of or played that tomb rader game you
mention (with ledge grabbing it rather sounds like prince of persia),
but this is indeed what I'm talking about.
I have been considering this issue ever sinse I first playeed syperliam.
The principle problem is how to
, March 17, 2010 8:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question about games
Hi Dark,
Yes, good point. I know exactly what you mean. About the best example
I can think of to relate to what you are talking about is Tomb Raider
Prophecy.
As you may or may not know Tomb Raider
Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
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Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question about games
Hi Thomas,
Personally, I think you should leave it to Level 3. Leave Level 1 as it
is,
is my advice, though this sounds quite
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From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question about games
Hi Thomas,
Personally, I think you should leave it to Level 3. Leave Level 1 as it
is,
is my advice, though
Hi Dark,
Actually Mysteries of the Ancients already has a specific ledge
indecator. It basically is the sound of dripping water as you approach
a ledge. I could quite easily raise or lower the pitch of the dripping
ledge to indicate weather or not there is a high or low hanging ledge
there.
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:47 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question about games
As MOTA might get more difficult and complex as we progress through it,
maybe this idea could be incorporated somewhere
Hi Charles,
Well, this isn't necessarily about game complexity or challenge, but
how we, as game developers, can convey the same sort of information to
a blind gamer through audio as a sighted gamer would get by looking at
the screen. Having a more or less advanced 2d layout happens to be one
of
Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:46 AM
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Hi Charles,
Well, this isn't necessarily about game complexity or challenge, but
how we, as game developers, can convey the same sort
Hi Tom.
Indeed, i didn't notice the dripping water in Mota because I assumed it was
part of the ambience, though I did notice it back in Montizuma's
return, so I should've really assumed it was there.
If you have some other ambience then that should work fine, and allow
complex layout
Hi.
Would GMA Tank Commander count as an fps?
Regards:
Valiant8086: website valiant8086.com
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From: Thomas Ward
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Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question about games
Hi Michael,
Actually
Hi Michael,
the games I listed are real time first person action games. As far as
real time RPG games like Entombed it is the only one currently out
there for us. There are some text based RPG games such as Ancient
Domains of Mystery, Nethack, and Angband, but those weren't designed
specifically
Hi,
No, it wouldn't. Using the mainstream system of classifying games Tank
Commander would likely be classified as a real time simulation just
like Lone Wolf is. The main difference here being the game is the
simulation of driving a tank in combat as apposed to controlling a
single soldier, super
Hi Dark,
I forgot about DynaMan myself, but based on the player point of view
it could probably be classified under the FPS style. Although, I
believe James North classified it as classic arcade. In any case you
are right. there are quite a few FPS games now on the market for the
audio games
Hi Michael,
Actually, Entombed is a roguelike RPG type game not a first person
game. There are some big differences in the two styles of games from a
technical point of view. Anyway, since you wanted to know what FPS
type games are out there for the blind I'll mention them below.
First, is Sarah
just playing en-tomb it seem like a first person game but thanks for
the info. then the list of games you gave me are those first person
games or rpg? if not then what rpg games are their for the blind?
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Hi michael. Strictly speaking entombed is not first person. First person is
when you hear the sounds exactly as the person in the game would, ie,
you need to turn around a full 180 degrees to go in another direction rather
than just pressing a key to walk a given way as in entombed.
The
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question about games
Hi Michael,
Actually, Entombed is a roguelike RPG type game not a first person
game. There are some big differences in the two styles of games from a
technical point of view. Anyway, since you
barnes c...@samobile.net
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question about games
just playing en-tomb it seem like a first person game but thanks for the
info. then the list of games you gave me are those first person games or
rpg
Shirley, Jim's golf and baseball games are great and well worth a try.
running them should be symple just do the following:
First, download and install the winkit file. To download it, as previously
stated, when asked, click on save and save the file somewhere (for example
in your my
Sean, out of interest why do you suggest reformatting as the answer to any
computer related tech support question?
Appologies for seeming abrupt, but it just seems someone mentions some
slight problem, which might be as much a case of a user not yet knowing
the ins and outs of how to
: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games
well winzip from www.winzip.com is a good program.
www.izarc.org is good for free things.
the other extracters can be run normally.
though you may have to run as admin or something.
At 02:14 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote:
Um
wow your second name is format, I think.
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From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games
um why exactly will your hard drive not accept
Hello Shirley,
When you say my hard drive won't accept compressed files only
applications what does that mean exactly? I think rather than assuming
this or that won't work on your computer the best thing to do is ask
someone on how to solve problems like this as you seam to be having a
lot of
: [Audyssey] question on games
Hello Shirley,
When you say my hard drive won't accept compressed files only
applications what does that mean exactly? I think rather than assuming
this or that won't work on your computer the best thing to do is ask
someone on how to solve problems like this as you
Hi Dark,
Agreed. Shaun's comment to reformat is way out of line. It appears to
me Shirley's problems are just that she isn't familiar with the ins and
outs of her computer system and there probably isn't anything seriously
wrong with her computer. Instead of assuming there is something
technical
Hi Dark,
True, but on Windows Vista and later you need to run the setup file with
admin rights or it will give you an installation error. I suspect if
Shirley is using Vista or Windows 7 it is this error she is getting, and
in that case it is a simple matter of running the install as
administrator
I seemed to remember from one of her earlier posts that Shirly was using
Xp, hence my explanation, though i could well be wrong of course.
I personally stil don't see why microsoft have to muck about with all this
multi user account sicurity shinanigans, when there are so many people who
now.
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From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: thomasward1...@gmail.com; Gamers Discussion list
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games
I seemed to remember from one of her earlier posts that Shirly was using
Xp
hmmm
well truth be told its what I do when I have no idea how to fix something.
I had it lucky though for a while was easy to do and I have backups of
everything.
Since I have not heard an issue where sertain files are not accepted on other
drives, of a user's system, etc then there are 2
weird and I sink.
At 09:36 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote:
wow your second name is format, I think.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games
um
I'm sorry willem, but in all the years I've used computers I've seen far
more problems with user accounts than I have applications creating harmful
code, - I backup constantly anyway).
IIf this is the purpose, it strikes me the cure is worse than the
desease, if ever there was
well linux manages security better than windows.
in fact windows is trying to get security set right like linux.
unfortunately linux does not have uac.
Most things are allowed but if you need to access something that needs access
well you need the root password.
and ofcause you can bypass that
This is why I never read his Emails. Bad advice like this infuriates me.
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From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games
Sean, out
Hi Shaun,
Actually, most modrn Linux operating systems don't have or use a root
account. Instead they use an admin tool called sudo which allows a user
to execute admin commands using a standard account. For example, to
install MOTA on Ubuntu Linux you would run the setup like
sudo dpkg -i
Hi Dark,
I'm sorry to say that is a pretty jaded position for someone who's only
experience is using Windows XP and earlier. Other operating systems like
Mac OS and Linux have a completely different approach to multi-user
accounts than does Windows. I really wish you would not judge every
Um Shirley, I don't know how to say this, but maybe you should ask someone
near you to discuss the running of programs, the uses of compressed files
and so forth.
In short, the compressed file can't be run and shouldn't be run. It is
simply used to store files in a single location in a
um why exactly will your hard drive not accept compressed files?
I suggest you reformat and the problem will go away.
Actually why only run standard programs and not compressed.
you either have your security system screwed or you just need to reformat or
something.
At 01:29 p.m. 7/01/2010, you
well winzip from www.winzip.com is a good program.
www.izarc.org is good for free things.
the other extracters can be run normally.
though you may have to run as admin or something.
At 02:14 p.m. 7/01/2010, you wrote:
Um Shirley, I don't know how to say this, but maybe you should ask someone
near
Hello,
Please do not suggest reformatting until we have much more information.
Reformatting is a very drastic step, and someone who does not know what
they are doing can end up with a very expensive paperweight and lose all
of their data.
David Chittenden, MSc, CRC, MRCAA
Email:
dchitten...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on games
Hello,
Please do not suggest reformatting until we have much more information.
Reformatting is a very drastic step, and someone who does
: Re: [Audyssey] question on games
Hello,
Please do not suggest reformatting until we have much more information.
Reformatting is a very drastic step, and someone who does not know what they
are doing can end up with a very expensive paperweight and lose all of their
data.
David Chittenden
Thanks, it was the DX file that was missing.
Got it working.
Now, if only I didn't suck at Sadoku. *smiles*
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From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question
Hi Lisa,
Here is just a few trouble shooting tips you can try.
1. Make sure dx8vb.dll is in your
c:\windows\system32
directory. If not you will have to grab a copy off of someone who has
one, or install it via something like Jim Kitchen's winkit program.
2. Restart the system after doing a game
Hi Chris,
Lonewolf is a World War II submarine game. It comes with 17 stock
missions, and because the game can be expanded there are many additional
missions that can be downloaded to expand it to at least 99 missions.
There is also a Lonewolf sound pack put out by me, USA Games, which
Lone Wolf is a submarine simulation game. Tank Commander is a tank
simulation game. Everything you need to know about both games can be found
at
www.gmagames.com
including demos of the games.
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