Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability for GIMP - Executive Summary Project Description

2011-08-15 Thread Tobias Ehni
No, I haven't decided on interview questions. I'd like to have them publicly checked before doing the interviews. As well as the scope. Suggestions welcome. 2011/8/15 Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Tobias Ehni wrote: I've posted an

[Gimp-developer] Accessing the sample points

2011-08-15 Thread Ofnuts
Is there a way to get the Sample points coordinates in a script? I've seen scripts needing point coordinates using paths for that, but this seems a bit artificial and not very user-friendly. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Tab in Single Window-Mode

2011-08-15 Thread Jeremy Morton
Speaking of tab in single-window mode, does Ctrl-Tab work for switching tab yet? If not, is this planned? -- Best regards, Jeremy Morton (Jez) On 15/08/2011 18:15, Martin Nordholts wrote: 2011/8/13 Robert Hildebrandtroberts_k...@gmx.de: Hello Guys, I love using Gimp with the new

Re: [Gimp-developer] Tab in Single Window-Mode

2011-08-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/8/15 Jeremy Morton ad...@game-point.net: Speaking of tab in single-window mode, does Ctrl-Tab work for switching tab yet?  If not, is this planned? Ctrl+Tab will continue to cycle between layers, at least in GIMP 2.8. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Single-window

Re: [Gimp-developer] Tab in Single Window-Mode

2011-08-15 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
I thought we had cycling by some means.. AH, yes. Alt+Tab. Also, Alt+[123456789] works to switch to a particular tab, in a similar way to tabs in Firefox. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU

[Gimp-developer] Porting the decompose/compose plugin

2011-08-14 Thread Alexander Hämmerle
Hi there, i'm currently porting the decompose/compose plugins to use babl, but i'm bumping into the following error: decompose.c: Including babl/babl.h and simply defining const Babl *rgb = babl_format (RGB u8); in the function extract_hsv without doing anything else brings me to: fatal

[Gimp-developer] Deleting layers is advanced

2011-08-14 Thread John Caluma
This is just a request and I think the algorithm of remembering previous selections can still be used or to somewhere. Deleting layers may require more clicks for the new user because the selection highlight remembers the previously selected layers after a deletion. It is not the opposite of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Deleting layers is advanced

2011-08-14 Thread Thales Oliveira - WeAreLinux.com
Indeed. On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:14 PM, John Caluma raven.core.h...@gmail.comwrote: This is just a request and I think the algorithm of remembering previous selections can still be used or to somewhere. Deleting layers may require more clicks for the new user because the selection

Re: [Gimp-developer] Dockables aren't disposed when closing floating dock window

2011-08-13 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/8/13 P S psweb...@gmail.com: This is my first post in gimp-dev so forgive me if I happen to miss out context or interfere with current work in progress. It turns out dockables aren't disposed after a gimp_dock_dispose() call in the current master. gimp_dock_dispose() only removes

Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability Session @ CCC

2011-08-13 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 11-08-11 09:57 AM, Tobias Ehni wrote: there is going to be a session on usability for GIMP August 12th, 16:00, WilberVille at CCC. Sounds good. When/where will a report be posted of what comes out of this meeting? ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

[Gimp-developer] Tab in Single Window-Mode

2011-08-13 Thread Robert Hildebrandt
Hello Guys, I love using Gimp with the new SingleWindow-Mode but I've got a little issue: I like using Tab to maximize and minimize the working area, which works very fine -- except one of those widgets outside gets the focus, so using Tab just changes the Widget with Focus. I haven't found a

[Gimp-developer] Dockables aren't disposed when closing floating dock window

2011-08-12 Thread P S
This is my first post in gimp-dev so forgive me if I happen to miss out context or interfere with current work in progress. It turns out dockables aren't disposed after a gimp_dock_dispose() call in the current master. gimp_dock_dispose() only removes dockbooks which will not be disposed if

[Gimp-developer] Usability Session @ CCC

2011-08-11 Thread Tobias Ehni
Hi, there is going to be a session on usability for GIMP August 12th, 16:00, WilberVille at CCC. For topics / discussion please refer to: http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Usability Come and join. Kind regards, Tobi ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC GimpUnitEntry: Review round 2

2011-08-11 Thread Enrico Schröder
Hi Martin I implemented your suggestion to follow the GtkSpinButton pattern: The UnitAdjustment now is to be created manually by the client and then set via gimp_unit_entry_set_adjustment(). I removed the majority of functions in GimpUnitEntry which mirrored GimpUnitAdjustment. Only

Re: [Gimp-developer] [GSoC] status of the OpenCL in GEGL project

2011-08-09 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Victor Oliveira wrote: Hello everyone, I've made a blog post with the status of my GSoC project. enjoy! [suggestions are always welcome :)] http://meudepositodeideias.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/opencl-on-gegl-results-up-to-now/ Did you make any use of the

Re: [Gimp-developer] [GSoC] status of the OpenCL in GEGL project

2011-08-09 Thread Victor Oliveira
It is loosely based on that branch, a lot of things changed from OpenGL to OpenCL, also, I fixed some bugs I found in the older branch. So I didn't put any code I didn't review and understand :) On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:55 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Fast-painting using the undo stack

2011-08-09 Thread saulgoode
Quoting Uri Simchoni uri_simch...@hotmail.com: As far as I can tell, both these ideas cannot be implemented as plugins (I cannot duplicate the layers every n milliseconds with a plugin, I cannot modify the undo behavior of basic painting tools, and I cannot play the undo stack with a

[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] status of the OpenCL in GEGL project

2011-08-08 Thread Victor Oliveira
Hello everyone, I've made a blog post with the status of my GSoC project. enjoy! [suggestions are always welcome :)] http://meudepositodeideias.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/opencl-on-gegl-results-up-to-now/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

[Gimp-developer] Fast-painting using the undo stack

2011-08-08 Thread Uri Simchoni
Hi, I'm looking for a way to implement a fast-painting animation using GIMP.What I'd like to achieve is a tool that allows the artist to just paint, and with a press of a button produce a video of the painting process. I'm looking for solutions that integrates with the painting program,

[Gimp-developer] SingleWindowMode-Issue

2011-08-06 Thread Robert Hildebrandt
Hello Guys, I love the new singlewindow mode. But there'se still (today fetched, merged and compiled) got one issue in the current version: I like to work with the single Window mode when it's maximized, but everytime I open a new Image or close an opened one, the window returns to normal mode.

Re: [Gimp-developer] SingleWindowMode-Issue

2011-08-06 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/8/6 Robert Hildebrandt roberts_k...@gmx.de: Hello Guys, I love the new singlewindow mode. But there'se still (today fetched, merged and compiled) got one issue in the current version: I like to work with the single Window mode when it's maximized, but everytime I open a new Image or

[Gimp-developer] Question about building GIMP with seamless clone

2011-08-06 Thread trapDoor
Dear GIMP/GEGL developers, I was wondering if someone could give me some hint: In order to compile GIMP with adaptive cloning shall I merge just the new branch 'soc-2011-seamless-clone2' into master or the old[?] one 'soc-2011-seamless-clone' should be merged first? Also what about GEGL? In its

Re: [Gimp-developer] Question about building GIMP with seamless clone

2011-08-06 Thread Mikael Magnusson
On 6 August 2011 18:03, trapDoor trapdo...@gmail.com wrote: Dear GIMP/GEGL developers, I was wondering if someone could give me some hint: In order to compile GIMP with adaptive cloning shall I merge just the new branch 'soc-2011-seamless-clone2' into master or the old[?] one

Re: [Gimp-developer] prerequisites not building on F14

2011-08-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/8/2 Michael J. Hammel mjham...@graphics-muse.org: Gdk-2.0.gir: error: Type reference 'GdkPixbuf' not found I've built and installed the prerequisites, including gdk-pixbuf, to /usr/local/gimpgit.  I've tried building gobject-introspection but that doesn't build either.  I didn't think

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC GimpUnitEntry: Review round 2

2011-08-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/8/1 Enrico Schröder enni.schroe...@gmail.com: Hey Martin, just a small status update: starting on documentation and fixing your review comments now. (Have been busy with moving to my new apartment last week). By going through your review comments I noticed that your diff file

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp should be GIMP, but have no idea about GimpCageConfig (translation related)

2011-08-02 Thread Michael Muré
Hi, Sorry for the late reply. 2011/7/29 Cristian Secară li...@secarica.ro First of all, I think that Gimp should be GIMP in these strings: #: ../app/gegl/gimpoperationcagecoefcalc.c:65 msgid Compute a set of coefficient buffer for the Gimp cage tool #:

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp should be GIMP, but have no idea about GimpCageConfig (translation related)

2011-08-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/8/2 Michael Muré batolet...@gmail.com: #: ../app/gegl/gimpoperationcagecoefcalc.c:82 #: ../app/gegl/gimpoperationcagetransform.c:118 msgid A GimpCageConfig object, that define the transformation For now, this string won't go to the UI, but it might happen in the future, when gegl will

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp should be GIMP, but have no idea about GimpCageConfig (translation related)

2011-08-02 Thread Michael Muré
I'm afraid I don't have a better answer than pippin told me this. If nobody object in the next few days, I will unmark them for translation. 2011/8/2 Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com 2011/8/2 Michael Muré batolet...@gmail.com: #: ../app/gegl/gimpoperationcagecoefcalc.c:82 #:

Re: [Gimp-developer] prerequisites not building on F14

2011-08-02 Thread Michael J. Hammel
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 08:33 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: 2011/8/2 Michael J. Hammel mjham...@graphics-muse.org: Gdk-2.0.gir: error: Type reference 'GdkPixbuf' not found Is the .gir file for GdkPixbuf installed? If not, that's probably why you get the error. If you have problems building

[Gimp-developer] prerequisites not building on F14

2011-08-01 Thread Michael J. Hammel
I'm building the prerequisites on F14 in order to build GIMP from GIT. It appears all prerequisites are now required to be built on F14 so I'm doing these: babl gegl glib atk pango gdk-pixbuf gtk+ gimp Everything goes well till I get to the GTK+ install phase. It's giving me the following:

[Gimp-developer] Small nightly builds-tool update

2011-07-31 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi, This is a small update on some changes I have made on our continuous integration tool Jenkins that is hosted here: http://gimptest.flamingtext.com:8080/ With the addition of nightly tarball builds of feature branches, in particular for some of our GSoC projects, there is a new naming

[Gimp-developer] GSoC GimpUnitEntry: Review round 2

2011-07-30 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi Here are my review comments from a rather detailed review round. I've looked carefully at the GimpUnitAdjustment and GimpUnitEntry APIs, as I believe we can get the API in a state good enough for inclusion in the GIMP 2.10 plug-in API (that will also survive into GIMP 3.0). GimpUnitEntries

[Gimp-developer] Gimp should be GIMP, but have no idea about GimpCageConfig (translation related)

2011-07-29 Thread Cristian Secară
First of all, I think that Gimp should be GIMP in these strings: #: ../app/gegl/gimpoperationcagecoefcalc.c:65 msgid Compute a set of coefficient buffer for the Gimp cage tool #: ../app/gegl/gimpoperationcagetransform.c:104 msgid Convert a set of coefficient buffer to a coordinate buffer for the

[Gimp-developer] Usability at CCC

2011-07-22 Thread Tobias Ehni
Chaos Communication Camp is approaching, so I’d like to announce that there will also be the opportunity to discuss usability and related issues regarding GIMP. As far as I’m concerned, I’d like to present and discuss my proposal (see http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Usability). Season of Usability

[Gimp-developer] Camp Ticket Presale Closing

2011-07-19 Thread Michael Natterer
Hi all, everybody who wants to come to the camp should buy a ticket until *tommorow* the 20th of July: https://presale.events.ccc.de/ It's not guaranteed if and how many tickets are left for on-site sale. Regards, --Mitch ___ Gimp-developer mailing

Re: [Gimp-developer] Camp Ticket Presale Closing

2011-07-19 Thread Simon Budig
Michael Natterer (mi...@gimp.org) wrote: everybody who wants to come to the camp should buy a ticket until *tommorow* the 20th of July: I ordered mine a while ago already and I can only wholeheartedly recommend this event. Bye, Simon -- si...@budig.de

Re: [Gimp-developer] Camp Ticket Presale Closing

2011-07-19 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Simon Budig si...@budig.de wrote: Michael Natterer (mi...@gimp.org) wrote: everybody who wants to come to the camp should buy a ticket until *tommorow* the 20th of July: I ordered mine a while ago already and I can only wholeheartedly recommend this event.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Question about bundled iBryte GIMP installer

2011-07-17 Thread Cristian Secară
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:34:08 -0600, Andrew Brandt wrote: -- Yontoo Layers -- a Firefox plugin which is installed during the process but which is not disclosed in the installation Wizard. It is unknown what this plugin does at this time. Maybe this can help you in your invetigation (I didn't

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC GimpUnitEntry: Review round 1

2011-07-17 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/7/16 Enrico Schröder enni.schroe...@gmail.com: Ok, I will define the defines ;-) Should the common ones be declared in gimpunitentries.h or should each class/file define them themselves when needed? Put them in gimpunitentries.h for now. Later we will move gimpunitentries away from

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC GimpUnitEntry: Review round 1

2011-07-16 Thread Enrico Schröder
Hi Martin! Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2011 um 16:17 schrieb Martin Nordholts: 2011/7/14 Enrico Schröder enni.schroe...@gmail.com (mailto:enni.schroe...@gmail.com): Hi I've adressed most of your comments by now. I have a few comments myself though, which I wrote directly in the file. I

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC GimpUnitEntry: Review round 1

2011-07-16 Thread Enrico Schröder
And now, ladies and gentleman, I present the same mail in hopefully human-readable formatting: Hi Martin! Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2011 um 16:17 schrieb Martin Nordholts: 2011/7/14 Enrico Schröder enni.schroe...@gmail.com (mailto:enni.schroe...@gmail.com): Hi I've adressed most of your

[Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 schedule update, one month slip

2011-07-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi everyone, I just went through our GIMP 2.8 schedule at http://tasktaste.com/projects/Enselic/gimp-2-8 and made some adjustments and about a month was added to the release date estimate because of it. I would like to describe the adjustments I did, check the status of the various tasks, and

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC GimpUnitEntry: Review round 1

2011-07-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/7/14 Enrico Schröder enni.schroe...@gmail.com: Hi I've adressed most of your comments by now. I have a few comments myself though, which I wrote directly in the file. I marked them with '##' so you can search for them. The file with the comments is to be found here:

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 schedule update, one month slip

2011-07-15 Thread Alexia Death
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote:  * Regarding Bug 304798 - Painting brush outline is slow, is this   still a big problem? I know Alexia and mitch has worked on this. Not enough to be a blocker I think. It COULD be optimized more, but as is, its faster

[Gimp-developer] GSoC GimpUnitEntry: Review round 1

2011-07-14 Thread Martin Nordholts
Hi Enrico, I've made a first review-round of some of your new code. It's not a complete review, but it's a start. I hope the to-the-point comments are OK, I don't mean to be rude. Note that I'm CCing gimp-developer to keep our correspondence public. I've done the review by diffing origin/master

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC GimpUnitEntry: Review round 1

2011-07-14 Thread Michael Natterer
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 14:26 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: Hi Enrico, I've made a first review-round of some of your new code. It's not a complete review, but it's a start. I hope the to-the-point comments are OK, I don't mean to be rude. Note that I'm CCing gimp-developer to keep our

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC GimpUnitEntry: Review round 1

2011-07-14 Thread Enrico Schröder
Hi, GimpUnitEntryTable is not a GtkWidget, hence the change. I know, the name is not very good, but we're working on it ;) GimpUnitEntryTable derives from GObject and just holds, among other things, a GtkTable with the entries. So should I change these variables to GObject? Regards, Enrico

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC GimpUnitEntry: Review round 1

2011-07-14 Thread Enrico Schröder
Hi I've adressed most of your comments by now. I have a few comments myself though, which I wrote directly in the file. I marked them with '##' so you can search for them. The file with the comments is to be found here:

[Gimp-developer] Question about bundled iBryte GIMP installer

2011-07-14 Thread Andrew Brandt
Hello GIMP devs. I'm hoping that someone on this list can help point me in the right direction. My name is Andrew Brandt. I'm an security researcher for the antivirus company Webroot. I've come across a large number of installers for GIMP which have been published by a company called

Re: [Gimp-developer] Question about bundled iBryte GIMP installer

2011-07-14 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, July 14, 2011, 19:34:08, Andrew Brandt wrote: -- Have you signed a distribution agreement with this company? No (but I'm not a core developer - just somebody who happens to provide the most popular installer for GIMP on Windows). -- Are third parties permitted, according to your

Re: [Gimp-developer] Question about bundled iBryte GIMP installer

2011-07-14 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Andrew Brandt abra...@webroot.com wrote: -- If this company is distributing this software without your express, written consent, what steps do you plan to take to put an end to this practice? (I'm not a developer either - I lurk here to keep tabs on the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Question about bundled iBryte GIMP installer

2011-07-14 Thread Christopher Curtis
2011/7/14 Jernej Simončič jer...@ena.si: On Thursday, July 14, 2011, 19:34:08, Andrew Brandt wrote: -- Are third parties permitted, according to your EULA, to bundle your product this way? GIMP is licensed under the GNU General Public License, version 2. The This may not be accurate.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Question about bundled iBryte GIMP installer

2011-07-14 Thread Chris Mohler
2011/7/14 Christopher Curtis ccurt...@gmail.com: GIMP is licensed under the GNU General Public License, version 2. The This may not be accurate.  Current GIMP releases are GPLv3: Oops - guess I need to pay more attention while lurking ;) I thought the GPLv3 switch was still in the works...

Re: [Gimp-developer] Question about bundled iBryte GIMP installer

2011-07-14 Thread Robert Krawitz
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:54:42 +0200, =?utf-8?Q?Jernej_Simon=C4=8Di=C4=8D?= wrote: On Thursday, July 14, 2011, 19:34:08, Andrew Brandt wrote: -- Are third parties permitted, according to your EULA, to bundle your product this way? GIMP is licensed under the GNU General Public License, version

Re: [Gimp-developer] Question about bundled iBryte GIMP installer

2011-07-14 Thread Christopher Curtis
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Chris Mohler cr33...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/14 Christopher Curtis ccurt...@gmail.com: This may not be accurate.  Current GIMP releases are GPLv3: Oops - guess I need to pay more attention while lurking ;)  I thought the GPLv3 switch was still in the works...

Re: [Gimp-developer] new color system ready for GIMP

2011-07-09 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/7/8 GiveLifeCS gabr...@givelifecolorsystem.com: Hi Martin Nordholts , I will try to explain your questions: I have invested approx. 4 years to do this color system It was a very manual I mean, that was without using any type of mathematical algorithm, but one by one watching and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp-developer Digest, Vol 106, Issue 6

2011-07-09 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
Gabriel: I'm afraid that if you hand-picked the colors using CMYK and not using any other technical background but your experience, then your color system is fundamentally flawed. CMYK is a device dependent space and if you didn't keep that in mind at the beginning of the process, then it's likely

Re: [Gimp-developer] new color system ready for GIMP

2011-07-08 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/7/7 GiveLifeCS gabr...@givelifecolorsystem.com: Hi developers of GIMP my name is Gabriel Vano I created a NEW COLOR SYSTEM with 2265 new shades, the color palette is free for various design software including GIMP. MY QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPERS IS: Someone can help me to get in touch

Re: [Gimp-developer] Text Color Bug or a problem with my GIMP?

2011-07-08 Thread Thales Oliveira - WeAreLinux.com
Is it just with me? On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Thales Oliveira - WeAreLinux.com tha...@wearelinux.com wrote: Hello, I've been noticing a weird behavior when creating light text color layers, I uploaded a snapshot so as you can see what I'm talking about. http://twitpic.com/5in5zc

[Gimp-developer] new color system ready for GIMP

2011-07-07 Thread GiveLifeCS
Hi developers of GIMP my name is Gabriel Vano I created a NEW COLOR SYSTEM with 2265 new shades, the color palette is free for various design software including GIMP. MY QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPERS IS: Someone can help me to get in touch with the developers of GIMP to try out this new color

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp-developer Digest, Vol 106lomoooool, Issue 2buoom9jiii97

2011-07-03 Thread Ken Kovar
M9i78kutukpouoolhooij8o Lupine jvuv8oi Kijkiouknbooy 9.?9 On Jul 2, 2011 2:00 PM, gimp-developer-requ...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu wrote: ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU

Re: [Gimp-developer] [GSOC] GimpUnitEntry - integration into grid editor

2011-07-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/7/1 Enrico Schröder enni.schroe...@gmail.com: Hi all, during the integration of the new UnitEntry widget into Gimp I came across the grid editor. At the moment it uses two rows, one for entering the value in pixels, one for entering it in another unit (cm, inch etc). Both display the

[Gimp-developer] Problem to link

2011-07-01 Thread Fabio Gonzalez
hello, I managed to compile the Gimp, but can not add in the Makefiles.am. the Gimp so I can use with the includes another program. I made a long list of all. oe tried adding them with _LDADD AM_LDFLAGS and also tried but none worked, anyone know how I solve the problem using configure and

[Gimp-developer] [GSOC] GimpUnitEntry - integration into grid editor

2011-07-01 Thread Enrico Schröder
Hi all, during the integration of the new UnitEntry widget into Gimp I came across the grid editor. At the moment it uses two rows, one for entering the value in pixels, one for entering it in another unit (cm, inch etc). Both display the same value. Is there a reason for not using just one

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Jeremy Morton
On 28/06/2011 13:33, peter sikking wrote: On Jun 28, 2011, at 11:35, SorinN wrote: But there was already Ctrl + Shift + E which bring up the dialog for export Ctrl + E was for overwrite without confirm. Probably the logical order was inverse - many peoples expecting Ctrl + E to bring up

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/6/30 Jeremy Morton ad...@game-point.net: My suggestion is an export (to the original file name and file type), but with a 'are you sure you want to overwrite?' dialog before the export happens, with the focus automatically on the cancel so 'enter' will cancel the export. The popup is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Jeremy Morton
My suggestion is that this only happen the *first* time the over presses ctrl-E after importing and editing a file, though. Subsequent presses once the user has confirmed would overwrite without confirmation. It's just to avoid overwriting by accident. -- Best regards, Jeremy Morton (Jez)

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Alexia Death
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Jeremy Morton ad...@game-point.net wrote: My suggestion is that this only happen the *first* time the over presses ctrl-E after importing and editing a file, though.  Subsequent presses once the user has confirmed would overwrite without confirmation.  It's

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Jeremy Morton
But it's more intuative to assume the imported file's location and format. If you've imported a file and edited it, it's quite likely you will want to write the changes back out to that file. If you want to write them somewhere else, it's easy to bring up the advanced export dialog. -- Best

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Alexia Death
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Jeremy Morton ad...@game-point.net wrote: But it's more intuative to assume the imported file's location and format.  If you've imported a file and edited it, it's quite likely you will want to write the changes back out to that file.  If you want to write them

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Alexia Death
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Jeremy Morton ad...@game-point.net wrote: So you're assuming that the user is going to 'accidentally' press ctrl-E, then 'accidentally' click on overwrite even though it's not the default selected button? No, Im telling you that for photographic workflows,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Jeremy Morton
On 30/06/2011 12:17, Alexia Death wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Jeremy Mortonad...@game-point.net wrote: So you're assuming that the user is going to 'accidentally' press ctrl-E, then 'accidentally' click on overwrite even though it's not the default selected button? No, Im

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread SorinN
No, Im telling you that for photographic workflows, desire to overwrite is rather rare this is true, can be an unrecoverable mistake, even for one unique picture but sometime overwriting is convenient and desired Probably the best way is to have this choice in Preferences Also from an

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Jeremy Morton
On 30/06/2011 13:30, SorinN wrote: No, Im telling you that for photographic workflows, desire to overwrite is rather rare this is true, can be an unrecoverable mistake, even for one unique picture but sometime overwriting is convenient and desired Also I would imagine any sensible user

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Alexia Death
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Jeremy Morton ad...@game-point.net wrote: Also I would imagine any sensible user would always save a lossless version of a lossy-format image before editing it and saving. Why would I save it lossless somewhere BEFORE editing a file Ive imported from a JPG? The

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Jeremy Morton
OK, well that's a terminology thing. I meant export. Why would you keep exporting it to a JPEG? I was saying what you're saying; if you're opening/importing a JPEG with the intention of editing it and exporting it, it only makes sense to save a lossless (probably XCF) before you get

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Alexia Death
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Jeremy Morton ad...@game-point.net wrote: OK, well that's a terminology thing.  I meant export.  Why would you keep exporting it to a JPEG?  I was saying what you're saying; if you're opening/importing a JPEG with the intention of editing it and exporting it,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
Jeremy: You have some good points, but also Alexia and the rest have. All this stuff was studied and the consensus was to go ahead with the current implementation. Of course it's hard to please everyone and this can look bad for some people while looks excellent for others. You already can have a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread peter sikking
I wrote: I will update the spec now to formalise this. done, and it was not a one-liner. Martin (prime suspect for implementing the change): please do a careful diff in the wiki to see the changes. thanks, --ps founder + principal interaction architect man + machine

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/6/30 peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net: I wrote: I will update the spec now to formalise this. done, and it was not a one-liner. Martin (prime suspect for implementing the change): please do a careful diff in the wiki to see the changes. It looks straightforward and I expect to be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread peter sikking
Martin wrote: 2011/6/30 peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net: I will update the spec now to formalise this. done, and it was not a one-liner. Martin (prime suspect for implementing the change): please do a careful diff in the wiki to see the changes. It looks straightforward and I expect to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-30 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/6/30 peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net: no, nothing changed in the Overwrite workflows. today's changes can be summarised as: - in the cases where before Export to was insensitive, it is  now sensitive and mapped to invoke Export... (the dialog) - in the cases where Overwrite blocks

[Gimp-developer] Text Color Bug or a problem with my GIMP?

2011-06-29 Thread Thales Oliveira - WeAreLinux.com
Hello, I've been noticing a weird behavior when creating light text color layers, I uploaded a snapshot so as you can see what I'm talking about. http://twitpic.com/5in5zc So, is this happening to anyone else? Should I report a bug? If you didn't see any problem on the snapshot zoom it in and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
2011/6/26 Jeremy Morton ad...@game-point.net: When I open a non-GIMP format file, like a PNG, by drag-dropping it into GIMP, and then I edit it, I go to export it, by pressing ctrl+E... and nothing happens.  This is because what I actually have to do is select File | Overwrite (filename.png).

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-28 Thread SorinN
But there was already Ctrl + Shift + E which bring up the dialog for export Ctrl + E was for overwrite without confirm. Probably the logical order was inverse - many peoples expecting Ctrl + E to bring up the export dialog, 2011/6/28 Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com: 2011/6/26 Jeremy Morton

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-28 Thread peter sikking
On Jun 28, 2011, at 11:35, SorinN wrote: But there was already Ctrl + Shift + E which bring up the dialog for export Ctrl + E was for overwrite without confirm. Probably the logical order was inverse - many peoples expecting Ctrl + E to bring up the export dialog, first of all,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-28 Thread SorinN
this is why I am insisting that it is not going to change, in the future. don't get me wrong - as is right now - is very convenient for me and probably for many others, but seems to disturb a part of designers who comes with various backgrounds. to be clear ..when I see for first time that Ctrl

[Gimp-developer] OSPD

2011-06-28 Thread Fabio Gonzalez
I have a free software project intention is to distribute free (GPL or LGPL) with much documented source code and pdfs a wiki where anyone with an account on sourceforge can contribute programs are free to develop and study the site already speaks of Java j2me sockets Irrlicht etc. expect

Re: [Gimp-developer] OSPD

2011-06-28 Thread Thales Oliveira - WeAreLinux.com
I'm sorry, what does it have to do with GIMP development? On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Fabio Gonzalez fabiojo...@gmail.comwrote: I have a free software project intention is to distribute free (GPL or LGPL) with much documented source code and pdfs a wiki where anyone with an account on

[Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-26 Thread Jeremy Morton
When I open a non-GIMP format file, like a PNG, by drag-dropping it into GIMP, and then I edit it, I go to export it, by pressing ctrl+E... and nothing happens. This is because what I actually have to do is select File | Overwrite (filename.png). Wouldn't it be more intuative to behave as if

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-26 Thread Jeremy Morton
Let's put it another way: I'm the user and I want GIMP to do that. How can I get it to? -- Best regards, Jeremy Morton (Jez) On 26/06/2011 14:18, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Jeremy Morton wrote: When I open a non-GIMP format file, like a PNG, by

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-26 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Jeremy Morton wrote: Let's put it another way: I'm the user and I want GIMP to do that.  How can I get it to? You can't Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-26 Thread Jeremy Morton
It should be possible. -- Best regards, Jeremy Morton (Jez) On 26/06/2011 14:48, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Jeremy Morton wrote: Let's put it another way: I'm the user and I want GIMP to do that. How can I get it to? You can't Alexandre Prokoudine

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-26 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Jeremy Morton wrote: It should be possible. You are in fact suggesting to heavily break use pattern. I don't think developers and UI team will fall for that. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-26 Thread Jeremy Morton
As far as I can tell the usage pattern has already changed heavily from 2.6. In 2.6 there was only one save option; now there's a save and export. You've already changed that significantly. -- Best regards, Jeremy Morton (Jez) On 26/06/2011 14:57, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sun, Jun

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-26 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Jeremy Morton wrote: As far as I can tell the usage pattern has already changed heavily from 2.6.  In 2.6 there was only one save option; now there's a save and export.  You've already changed that significantly. Yes, and there should be a better reason for

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-26 Thread Jeremy Morton
The way I think of the workflow, I'm importing a file, editing it, and exporting it. Overwriting the file on disk is a mere side-effect of that workflow, and GIMP will prompt me in any case just in case I don't want to overwrite the file. The thing is, if I go about it a different way and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-26 Thread SorinN
He's right here = I'm using the export function. Each time I then press ctrl+E, I'm overwriting that file again and again, without even a prompt. I don't see a meaningful difference between this workflow, and that of importing/editing/exporting. He doesn't know that Ctrl + Shift + E bring to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-26 Thread Jason Simanek
On 06/26/2011 09:22 AM, Jeremy Morton wrote: The thing is, if I go about it a different way and export another file to overwrite that file, I'm using the export function. Each time I then press ctrl+E, I'm overwriting that file again and again, without even a prompt. I don't see a meaningful

Re: [Gimp-developer] Isn't this behaviour unintuative?

2011-06-26 Thread Jeremy Morton
On 26/06/2011 15:31, Jason Simanek wrote: On 06/26/2011 09:22 AM, Jeremy Morton wrote: The thing is, if I go about it a different way and export another file to overwrite that file, I'm using the export function. Each time I then press ctrl+E, I'm overwriting that file again and again,

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