Re: Print plug-in

2000-02-02 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 01:31:28AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are fantastic parsers available, no need to write any of those. I'm not talking just parsers! A parser does exactly that -- it parses. You'd still have to write handlers etc. for all the tags. That's the hitting point,

Re: installing .po files in addition to .gmo files?

2000-02-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Daniel, do you know how to modify the Makefiles to do that, and where a good place to store these files is (probably just besides the .mo files)? There must be a simple way to find them though (a gimptool switch, maybe)? Sven?? Sorry, Gimp-1.2 first. Salut, Sven

Re: installing .po files in addition to .gmo files?

2000-02-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Before you start to go crazy about post-1.2 i18n issues, wouldn't it be nice to first clean up the situation for gimp-1.1 a bit? I'm speaking about the UI and translation of the perl plug-in. The po directory has a totally different mechanism for storing and building the po and mo files

Re: Documenting the source?

2000-02-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, I have some experience documenting the C/C++ source of a project. For the DODS project (http://unidata.ucar.edu/packages/dods) I use a package called doc++ which is barely supported, but works well. Doc++ has a home page, and we support a slightly modified (i.e. debugged) version of

Re: Print plug-in

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 2 Feb, Steinar H.Gunderson wrote: In my illusion at least making tags from events and the way back should be simpler... The problem with Perl is the parsing step, not the recording step. We already have well-working code for parsing/running Perl. That sentence doesn't make a lot of

Re: Some UI inconsistencies and a patch....

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 1 Feb, Marc Lehmann wrote: Your: " Category New File " Looks IMHO much worse than the existing: " Category New File Settings " Not really, you have the word "Preferences" just a few mm above it. Also there was some inconsistency: The category "Monitor Information"

Re: installing .po files in addition to .gmo files?

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 2 Feb, Marc Lehmann wrote: Well, yes, but I guess they wouldn't want to translated them themselves, so why personal i.e. with catalog in the home directory? Because it's the only user-writable place on a machine. I only talk about installing plug-ins _seperately_ from the gimp.

Re: Documenting the source?

2000-02-02 Thread Jens Lautenbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sven Neumann) writes: Hi, I have some experience documenting the C/C++ source of a project. For the DODS project (http://unidata.ucar.edu/packages/dods) I use a package called doc++ which is barely supported, but works well. Doc++ has a home page, and we support a

Re: punctuation non-breakable spaces (Was: The Gimp: NewGeneration)

2000-02-02 Thread David Monniaux
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Raphael Quinet wrote: Well, although it is a kludge, I like it. I think that it would be a good idea to implement this in Gtk (and if possible, in the 1.2.x branch). It would not be hard to do: replace all 0xA0 bytes with the normal space character 0x20 before drawing

Performance

2000-02-02 Thread Martin Weber
Here some performance tests on an Intel Celeron 333 with 128 MB: BMP file, grayscale (8-bit), 1x7500 loading with ImageMagick 5.1.1: 20 min loading with GIMP 1.1.15: 10 min loading with Photopaint 8: 1 min 39 sec loading with Photoshop 5: 14 sec saveing with GIMP 1.1.15: 2 min 25 sec

Re: Documenting the source?

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 2 Feb, Sven Neumann wrote: /** * gimp_size_entry_new: * @number_of_fields: the number of entries * @unit: the default unit * @unit_format: a pointer to a format string describing the unit The good thing is that gtk-doc checks that the documentation and the source are in sync and

Re: Documenting the source?

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 2 Feb, Sven Neumann wrote: Well, does it support the GTK+ object system like gtk-doc does? I guess not and that's why I suggest that we stop discussing what tool to use since I doubt we will find something better suited to our needs. It supports crossreferences, what else do you want?

file formats

2000-02-02 Thread Martin Weber
ImageMagick has import / export filters for fpx (only import), pbm, pict and ttf. I think we should include this fileformats also for GIMP

config.guess failure

2000-02-02 Thread Tom Rathborne
This is probably a generic automake/pgcc problem, but it's exhibiting itself with the GIMP first, so here it is: config.guess from CVS is failing for me since it doesn't recognize my ld supported emulations. I'm using pgcc 2.95.3, and ld is: GNU ld version 2.9.5 (with BFD 2.9.5.0.24) The

Re: [gimp-devel] Re: Some UI inconsistencies and a patch....

2000-02-02 Thread Simon Budig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 1 Feb, Marc Lehmann wrote: Your: CategoryNew File Looks IMHO much worse than the existing: CategoryNew File Settings Not really, you have the word "Preferences" just a few mm above it. Also there was some inconsistency: The

story on advogato

2000-02-02 Thread Shawn T . Amundson
Just wanted to let you guys know that I wrote up a story on advogato.com you guys might want to read for a good laugh: http://advogato.com/ 'Andover.Net and the deep pockets of Wilber the GIMP?' -Shawn -- Shawn T. Amundson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Research and Development

Re: Print plug-in

2000-02-02 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 02:25:10PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sentence doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I agree that we've got well-working code for parsing/running Perl, well, that's Perl :)... Yes, exactly. The `problem' with Perl is that it can be amazingly complex at times.

Re: config.guess failure

2000-02-02 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 03:05:30PM -0500, Tom Rathborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is probably a generic automake/pgcc problem, but it's exhibiting itself with the GIMP first, so here it is: Slow, slow... _what_ is breaking? What are you compiling? my ld supported emulations. I'm using

Re: installing .po files in addition to .gmo files?

2000-02-02 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 03:28:46PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can create domains with nearly no limit. Where the files reside is completely up to, it may even be the homedirectory... So that means that we need a new domain, such as "gimp-override", that resides in .gimp/locale and

Re: Some UI inconsistencies and a patch....

2000-02-02 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 02:41:57PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really, you have the word "Preferences" just a few mm above it. No, I haven't. Also there was some inconsistency: The category "Monitor Information" was a settings dialog anyway but it had no "Settings" in its name

Re: Print plug-in

2000-02-02 Thread Marc Lehmann
That's the hitting point, if you want to use perl or script-fu here you have to produce code for (possibly :)) highlevel languages which isn't quite simple. It must be quite simple. the perl plug-in can give you a detailed trace output of all functions called, which is implemented with less

Re: file formats

2000-02-02 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 10:58:12AM -0800, Martin Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ImageMagick has import / export filters for fpx (only import), pbm, pict and ttf. I think we should include this fileformats also for GIMP Patches welcome. There is a nice project on sourceforge where you can get

Re: installing .po files in addition to .gmo files?

2000-02-02 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 11:16:44AM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before you start to go crazy about post-1.2 i18n issues, wouldn't it be nice to first clean up the situation for gimp-1.1 a bit? The usual situation: I can't fix problems that I do not know about. So just tell

Re: config.guess failure

2000-02-02 Thread Tom Rathborne
Marc; On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 10:39:10PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote: On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 03:05:30PM -0500, Tom Rathborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is probably a generic automake/pgcc problem, but it's exhibiting itself with the GIMP first, so here it is: Slow, slow... _what_ is

Re: installing .po files in addition to .gmo files?

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 2 Feb, Marc Lehmann wrote: So that means that we need a new domain, such as "gimp-override", that resides in .gimp/locale and is consulted just like gimp-perl and gimp-plug-ins. No The command you're asking for is msgunfmt... Hmm... sounds like the solution. You pribably made

Re: Some UI inconsistencies and a patch....

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 2 Feb, Marc Lehmann wrote: Not really, you have the word "Preferences" just a few mm above it. No, I haven't. Sounds like you should send a bugreport to the authors of your favourite windowmanager I have no problems with these!! Consistency is great, I am just against removing

Re: [gimp-devel] Re: Some UI inconsistencies and a patch....

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 2 Feb, Simon Budig wrote: Hmm - I dont like the first too, since it is unclear what preferences are adjusted inside "New File". "New File Settings" is not much better... What about "New File Defaults" ? Sounds good. So, what about the "Colors-Curves" Thing ? It is a tool isnt it?

Re: Print plug-in

2000-02-02 Thread Tomas Ogren
On 01 February, 2000 - Kelly Lynn Martin sent me these 0.4K bytes: On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:24:35 -0600, "Shawn T . Amundson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But hasn't Mozilla basically given up on this idea and just used their own toolkit? Mozilla certainly looks crappy on the Mac at any rate.

Gradient-Fu Patch for The Gimp v. 1.1.x

2000-02-02 Thread Shlomi Fish
I prepared a version of my Gradient-Fu patch that is compatible with version 1.1.x of the GIMP. As a reminder, Gradient-Fu adds PDB procedures that can manipulate gradients, so scripts and plug-ins can create and modify gradients. The patch can be downloaded from my homepage at the following

Re: Print plug-in

2000-02-02 Thread regis rampnoux
On 02-Feb-00 Robert L Krawitz wrote: Why, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF USERS WHO WANT ALL THEIR APPS TO WORK THE SAME, should the Gimp work different from their other apps? I want a real, stable solution that I can use! :-))) When I upgrade a library I don't want have to upgrade a lot of others

Updating 1.0.4 plug-ins to work with 1.1.x

2000-02-02 Thread Steve Lipa
Hello gimp developers! I've been using 1.1.15 for a while now, and I just downloaded and compiled the latest updates from the CVS server. I love it and salute all of you for all the good work! But I do have a question.A month or two ago I wrote a plug-in for 1.0.4 (p2m_plugin). (My

ANNOUNCE: GIMP 1.1.16

2000-02-02 Thread Manish Singh
1.1.16 is out there. Grab it at: ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/unstable/v1.1.16/ There's the usual set of bugfixes and i18n stuff. Notably to translators is there are now separate po files for libgimp. -Yosh