[GNC] End of year

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

OK, I want to do it properly, but I had an email crash and .

So, can someone point me or send me the 'how to' for doing an end of 
year process, where I can 'inherit' the names from the autocomplete from 
the previous years?


Thanks, Finbar
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Re: [GNC] 2 questions

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

OK, thanks.

You may remember (with a wince?) a long series of messages a while back 
that I had 'cos I had more than one location for the G files. It was 
sorted, by a kind person.


However, somewhere along the line the balance got screwed up, so I 
created a subfile with the 2024 addition and the balance from the bank a/c.


Maybe not be the best or officially approved solution, but it works, 
except for the lack of a popup, /boo hoo/. No possibility of a cut and 
paste of the 'other transactions'  do all the other 'new year' methods 
suffer from the same irritant?? If not, the year is still young, I may 
relent.


B




I'd ask why you created a special account to 'start over' for 2024?

The more usual procedures would be to either:

- 'close books' and proceed with the next year,

- archive a copy of the file as of 12/31/23 and proceed with the next 
year, or


- start an entirely new file for 2024 with carry-over balances, and 
possibly exporting/importing your Chart of Accounts.



Regards,
Adrien

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[GNC] 2 questions

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

1.How to get the suggestions when creating an entry (e.g.. ) name of the 
client when entering a few characters?


2. I subdivided an a/c to create a 2024 version, using the latest bank 
account balance as the opening balance. All Ok, but the entries are in 
red I cannot find in the help how to change that?


Thanks for any information, Barry

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

I 100% agree.

I know I have been a pain in the butt concerning my bad habits in saving 
files but I am grateful for the rescues.


Best wishes for '24 to all the minders.

Finbar (Barry)

On 29/12/2023 02:02, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
I'd offer as a comparison other projects and commercial products where 
the developers aren't nearly as 'Johnny on the Spot' or as helpful and 
responsive, or even accessible, but then, that wouldn't be any 
comparison at all.


This dev team is hands down awesome and why I continue to use GnuCash 
and likely always will.


I don't mind the bugs. I get that isn't for everyone, but then, simply 
don't be so quick to upgrade. That goes for any product, digital or 
physical.


Regards,
Adrien

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[GNC] Installing version 5

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Hi,

I am getting a message on MS 10 that Gnucash cannot install 5 because it 
cannot remove files from the previous version. I have closed the 
existing Gnucash and allowed the 'close' option on the install. I also 
get an option to install a new gnucash file.and uninstall ran.


Finbar


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Re: [GNC] Reconciliation with a strange opening balance

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Another good idea.

I went back to the start and sorted by Description, but nothing out of 
the ordinary.  As we might expect the majority of entries are 
withdrawals, so the deposits are easier to see. Also, sorted by 
description sorts out if you put down the credit card payments or the 
pub expenditures in the wrong place!!


Ho hum. Thanks for the suggestion.

Barry

On 15/11/2023 23:37, Liz wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 15:39:19 +0100
Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user  wrote:


Aha, as usual you are correct Maff. I'll just have to soldier on. I
already found two deposits entered as withdrawals.

Barry

At this stage, consider how you could use the search feature to find
these sort of errors.
If the deposits have a unique description, search for that description
in the account and then check that all the entries are in the
appropriate column.
Sadly the autocomplete features autocomplete errors equally as well as
good work, so think about how you can get the accounts sorted out other
than through the reconcile feature.

liz
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Re: [GNC] Reconciliation with a strange opening balance

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Aha, as usual you are correct Maff. I'll just have to soldier on. I 
already found two deposits entered as withdrawals.


Barry

On 13/11/2023 16:40, Maf. King wrote:

On Monday, 13 November 2023 15:20:28 GMT Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:


I set off to see where, but, in the course of my search, I tried to find
the number 10,443.43 in the account, as a baseline, but didn't find one.

If I understand the process of reconciliation the number should be
somewhere in the account, should it not??


or possibly ~5221.70 as a CR when it should be a DR (etc). or several smaller
errors which total the ~10k discrepancy you are seeing

Maf.



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[GNC] Reconciliation with a strange opening balance

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Hello,

The recent discussion on reconciliation was helpful in trying to sort 
out some anomalies I have.


When I do the latest reconciliation of one of my accounts the opening 
balance is 10,448.43 and gives me an amount of inbalance which is way off.


Following the advice in the recent posts I tried working backwards to 
see if I could find any errors.


I got close to 0.00 from time to time and was satisfied enough to 
consider a balancing entry, but was intrigued on where the 'error' might 
have been.


I set off to see where, but, in the course of my search, I tried to find 
the number 10,443.43 in the account, as a baseline, but didn't find one.


If I understand the process of reconciliation the number should be 
somewhere in the account, should it not??


Just tell me I am barking up the wrong tree, if I am making an error.

Finbar

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Re: [GNC] Recording medical reimbursements

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

FWIW, I do the same, since the insurance are not generous, I have a 
'solde' to pay ;)


Finbar

On 07/11/2023 05:17, Jediator wrote:
I would use the same expense account to record refund, since the 
refund reduces your medical expenses.


-- JC

On 11/6/23 10:53 PM, Andrew Gross wrote:

I have various expense accounts for medical expenses. When I receive an
insurance check, I record these against the medical expense accounts 
so the
yearly totals will show (approximately) what I have actually paid 
over the
year. Lately, I have been wondering if these reimbursement checks 
should be

going to their own account, not necessarily an income account as
reimbursements aren't income (right?) -- maybe a medical expense contra
account?

Thoughts?

Andrew
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[GNC] Modifying report options

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Hello,

I have been trying to incorporate some additional elements in the 
options for a report, via reports>saved report configurations.


I have read the manual content and I think I have implemented way to do 
this, but so far I have not succeeded.


Could someone help? I am using the latest version for Windows on a PC.

Thanks in advance, Finbar

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Re: [GNC] New Balance entry

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Exactly my experience, and why I asked, despite previous experience.

I am now at the stage where my Gnucash file is y but my bank account is 
not


Further searching needed,

Barry

On 30/10/2023 11:24, Liz wrote:

On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 15:21:20 +0200
Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user  wrote:


Hi,

After my previous experiences on here, I am almost afraid to ask a
new question, but, here goes.

When Reconciling, what exactly is the effect of introducing a "new
balance entry" as is available as the first option on the bar.

There is nothing under the help that I could identify.

Thanks, Finbar

My simple take is a disaster.
The program inserts a transaction which "balances" the account.
I've made the error once and not done it again, as I had to undo it all
and then fix up the genuine errors in the reconciliation.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] New Balance entry

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply. I didn't think of CC, 
but that is very useful. It helps when presentation of CC records are late.


I did find that balancing amounts were in the reconcile, usually very 
small amounts, but I didn't recall setting them.


For the previous answers, thank you one and all. I normally have a hold 
of reconciling, but when looking back in my accounts I find 'opening 
balances' have changed, presumably due to finger issues when entering 
transactions later.


I ask myself, 'why look back' it is history, I've paid.;)

Thanks again, Barry

On 26/10/2023 23:18, Jediator wrote:
This feature is useful when doing recon of a credit card account. 
After a successful recon run, the new balance window will popup up 
with the balance amount preset so you can issue a credit card payment 
from a bank account.  Certainly you can cancel the action (which 
doesn't affect your recon results) if you don't want to enter the 
credit card payment manually (e.g., populating transactions via csv 
import).  If you recon a bank account and the recon balance is zero, 
the new balance window shouldn't show up at all...


-- JC

On 10/25/23 5:19 PM, David H wrote:

David,

He means after you click OK on the initial Reconcile popup there is a
further popup on which the first icon is "Add a new balancing entry 
to the
account" - this is active only if your Ending Balance is not equal to 
the

Reconciled Balance.  if you click this icon it adds a txn for the
difference which you then must update as one side of the txn is the 
account

being reconciled and the other is the Orphan account.

David Carlson's explanation is correct, personally I would never use 
it as

I would always want to know why my account didn't reconcile :-)

Cheers David H.

On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 at 05:42, David Cousens 
wrote:


Finbar,

Not sure what you mean by new balance entry. The reconcile dialogue 
comes

up
requesting the following:

Statement date - enter the closing date on the statement from the 
bank. It

will
supply a closing date based on the statement date at which the last
reconciliation was doneand usually adds one month.

The Starting Balance is calculated and displayed - This is the total
balance of
all splits in the account which have already been reconciled. This 
should

be
equal to the Opening Balance indicated on the statement from the 
bank. If

not it
indicates that a previous reconciliation is incorrect eithr in your 
books

or the
banks statement - rare but it can happen

The Ending Balance This requires you to enter the value of the closing
balance
from the bank statement.

Some banks add their interest payment (or interest charge for a 
credit card

account) at the end of the statement and it may not have been enetered
into your
books. If this is the case use the "Enter Interest Payment" button 
to add a

transaction to include the interest payment  without halting the
reconciliation.

Then press the "OK" button to continue.

David Cousens
On Wed, 2023-10-25 at 15:21 +0200, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

Hi,

After my previous experiences on here, I am almost afraid to ask a new
question, but, here goes.

When Reconciling, what exactly is the effect of introducing a "new
balance entry" as is available as the first option on the bar.

There is nothing under the help that I could identify.

Thanks, Finbar

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[GNC] New Balance entry

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Hi,

After my previous experiences on here, I am almost afraid to ask a new 
question, but, here goes.


When Reconciling, what exactly is the effect of introducing a "new 
balance entry" as is available as the first option on the bar.


There is nothing under the help that I could identify.

Thanks, Finbar

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Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Thank you Adrien for a) being so patient, and b) reacting properly to 
the unnecessary comments.


Somewhere, way back, it is my impression that the requirement for 
attaching to posts had to be in jpg format, is that the case, or will a 
vanilla screen scrape do?? From this message that would appear to be the 
case. Also, I am not certain how much of a scrape you need, I have 
screenfulls.


I aplogise for the confusion between adminstratO and adminstrator. As a 
result of various ministrations to this PC when I first got it, a while 
back, several names were applied, barry mahon, finbar mahon, 
administration, and administrato, The latter one if 'good'


As to  attach, maybe it my misunderstanding. I have a screen in a file 
in 'This PC' with a list of files from gnu. If I do 'attach' (top RHS) 
it appears, but if I then click Add Attachment the files screen 'blinks' 
and if I click 'send' it asks 'did you forget an attachment' If I do 
PrtSc (or windows icon and PrtSc, depending on the advice received!!) 
the same things happens 'did you forget'


I have answered 'no, send now' to send this, sorry, further confusion.

Barry


On 28/08/2023 12:44, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

That's mostly my fault on the 'administrato' vs. 'administator' issue.

But I only kept typing that because Barry reported a file path at one 
point with that spelling, and I wasn't certain of a possible different 
language in use, so I didn't correct it. If Barry transcribed the file 
path instead of copy/pasting it, that would explain the spelling.


As for permissions, I'm not even concerned about root/admin vs. not 
but simply one user trying to save into another's file tree. That 
alone would most likely return a permissions error message. It seems 
Barry is logging in regularly under an account with that name, but 
GnuCash is opening a file stored under another user. (at some point 
that had to be done manually via File > Open, or since this is 
Windows, perhaps navigating to that other user and double-clicking the 
file - still manual and intentional)


Why the file is there instead of the regular user account, I don't know.

But I see the solution as moving it to the regular user account, 
fixing the file ownership and permission flags, and then proceeding to 
clean up the multiple file/backup file apparent mess.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/28/23 4:14 AM, Maf. King wrote:
I also note, and it may be a typo by Barry, but the user often being 
called
the "Administrator" account by some people on the list has been 
listed in a

file path by Barry more than once as "administrato"

What I'm saying is that there is no certainty that one account is or 
is not a

"root" operator with whatever extra rights or not.


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

OK, as I answered earlier on this thread, today, I use Thunderbird as my 
email software. I use it as a specific application.


"C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Thunderbird\thunderbird.exe"

BTW my issues with sending attachments starts with file manage and 
specifically with gnu files, don't know why.


I also, reluctantly, use Gmail because I am 'named' by Google and cannot 
send to gmail addresses except via gmail. If anybody knows how to become 
a 'good boy' with Googleplease tell me how.


Barry

On 28/08/2023 00:40, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
I specifically asked that question, either higher up in this thread, 
or in another related thread. (the very fact there are multiple 
threads on this subject, at least 5 by my current count, is another 
topic of discussion entirely)


Good to know David that you managed to discern as much.

Barry, please respond and confirm, but specifically, don't just 
confirm if you use a Gmail interface (it appears some times that your 
e-mail origination is *not* Gmail) but confirm what APP you use to 
access and send e-mail. That is: do you log into an e-mail website, or 
do you have a separate 'Mail' application you use. And in each case, 
WHAT specifically do you use. (that is, what is the EXACT URL of the 
website you use to access e-mail, or what is the actual name of the 
e-mail app you use if not web-based)


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/27/23 2:17 PM, David Carlson wrote:

Ken,

I checked one of Barry's messages and found that it was fent from a 
gmail

server, so I assumed that he is using Gmail.


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Yes, good point. I use a combination of Mailwasher, a NZ originated app 
which pre-examines mails  to dump garbage, and Thunderbird for mail.


Thanks, Barry

On 27/08/2023 19:00, kschneider bout-tyme.net wrote:

David,
Since not everyone on this list uses the same email client as you you may need 
to find out which client program Barry uses. I use the default email client on 
my iPad and have no ‘blue send button’ to push.

Ken Schneider


On Aug 27, 2023, at 11:59 AM, David Carlson  wrote:

Barry,

When you are either sending a message or replying to a message in Gmail,
there is a series of icons at the bottom next to the blue Send icon.  The
second one resembles a paper clip.  To "attach" a file to your message
click on the paper clip, then navigate to the folder containing the file
that you want to attach and click on that file or those files.  Note that
if you hover over the paper clip icon it will say "Attach filles"  That is
the only way to make a file go all the way to the gnucash-user@gnucash.org
maillist where others can see it.


--
David Carlson
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

OK, latest, just yesterday, Backblaze producedtwo files in .zip, I think 
I have a jpg.



Is it visible? This tax accounts and returns was 'deleted' a long time 
ago, but was obviously 'alive' in 2023.?


Is this where the problem originated??

Is there any solution from here?

Barry

On 27/08/2023 12:58, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

Good advice, I never run as administrator, at least not knowingly.

I am on an island off the South West coast of Ireland, at this moment. 
I will move on to my residence in France next week, I use this site as 
my 'best option' for GNU, and so far, until this fiasco, it has served 
me well. Libraries are thin on the ground here ;).


I am working to locate gnucash files from dates previous to the 
problem from my backup, Backupblaze, to locate something that may work 
without the message.


Thank you for the advice, Barry

On 26/08/2023 21:14, David Carlson wrote:

Barry,
If you do not have a family member or friend that knows a lot about 
permission issuess in Windows, go to your local library and ask them 
to find someone to help you.


Ununstalling Gnucash amd startimg over will not help.

You will evrntually end up in the same pile of manure.

Never ever "run as administrator" unless you know exactly why you 
need to.


That is my answer.



On Sat, Aug 26, 2023, 11:02 AM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user 
 wrote:


    I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but.

    There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data 
entry to

    gnucash, as I have done since 2019.

    On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several
    times,
    that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never
    saw it
    before.

    Put a question on here and a long series of q ensued.

    I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can
    I 'go
    back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down
    gnucash
    and restart with a new transaction, etc.

    Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me.

    As time went by and the q got more complicated I lost the
    sequence of
    where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images.

    Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing
    else, in
    my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file,
    just so
    I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights'
    message.

    A long way around, but no solution.

    The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly
    confusing.
    I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long 
history in

    IT, but not specifically in GNU.

    The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the
    bewildering
    array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting
    needs.
    I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on
    the same
    date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and
    the
    last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security
    in an
    accounting software, but not the range of files.

    Longwinded? yes.

    Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid
    November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash 
anew,

    create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for
    2022 to
    the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)??

    For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for
    boring you.

    Barry

    On 26/08/2023 09:03, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
    > Dimes to Dollars the permissions issue was that Barry was 
accessing

    > the file as one user (Barry Mahon) but it was saved in the tree of
    > another. (administrato)
    >
    > Regards,
    > Adrien
    >
    > On 8/25/23 6:30 PM, Maf. King wrote:
    >> I've just had a thought on a possible reason the original file
    could
    >> not be
    >> saved.  I may be barking up the wrong tree.
    >>
    >> Does Win have a maximum length for a filename?
    >>
    >> If Barry (OP) has been repeatedly opening and working on
    backups and
    >> backups
    >> of backups etc.., is it possible that repeated time-stamps have
    hit
    >> some sort
    >> of string-length limit (either in Win, GC, Gnome-libs or whatever
    >> layer)??
    >>
    >> Last time I was actively using MS for anything regularly, the
    >> filename length
    >> limit was 8+3 ... so I'll defer to pretty much anyone's opinion
    on this!
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Good advice, I never run as administrator, at least not knowingly.

I am on an island off the South West coast of Ireland, at this moment. I 
will move on to my residence in France next week, I use this site as my 
'best option' for GNU, and so far, until this fiasco, it has served me 
well. Libraries are thin on the ground here ;).


I am working to locate gnucash files from dates previous to the problem 
from my backup, Backupblaze, to locate something that may work without 
the message.


Thank you for the advice, Barry

On 26/08/2023 21:14, David Carlson wrote:

Barry,
If you do not have a family member or friend that knows a lot about 
permission issuess in Windows, go to your local library and ask them 
to find someone to help you.


Ununstalling Gnucash amd startimg over will not help.

You will evrntually end up in the same pile of manure.

Never ever "run as administrator" unless you know exactly why you need to.

That is my answer.



On Sat, Aug 26, 2023, 11:02 AM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user 
 wrote:


I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but.

There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to
gnucash, as I have done since 2019.

On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several
times,
that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never
saw it
before.

Put a question on here and a long series of q ensued.

I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can
I 'go
back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down
gnucash
and restart with a new transaction, etc.

Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me.

As time went by and the q got more complicated I lost the
sequence of
where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images.

Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing
else, in
my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file,
just so
I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights'
message.

A long way around, but no solution.

The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly
confusing.
I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in
IT, but not specifically in GNU.

The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the
bewildering
array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting
needs.
I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on
the same
date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and
the
last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security
in an
accounting software, but not the range of files.

Longwinded? yes.

Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid
November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew,
create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for
2022 to
the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)??

For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for
boring you.

Barry

On 26/08/2023 09:03, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> Dimes to Dollars the permissions issue was that Barry was accessing
> the file as one user (Barry Mahon) but it was saved in the tree of
> another. (administrato)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 8/25/23 6:30 PM, Maf. King wrote:
>> I've just had a thought on a possible reason the original file
could
>> not be
>> saved.  I may be barking up the wrong tree.
>>
>> Does Win have a maximum length for a filename?
>>
>> If Barry (OP) has been repeatedly opening and working on
backups and
>> backups
>> of backups etc.., is it possible that repeated time-stamps have
hit
>> some sort
>> of string-length limit (either in Win, GC, Gnome-libs or whatever
>> layer)??
>>
>> Last time I was actively using MS for anything regularly, the
>> filename length
>> limit was 8+3 ... so I'll defer to pretty much anyone's opinion
on this!
>
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Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Yes, I am aware of that, but, for reasons I don't know, I have been 
unable to a) select a list of GNU files and then rename them and b) copy 
and paste as an alternative.


Thanks for the info, Barry

On 26/08/2023 23:26, Carsten Hütter wrote:

Hi Barry!

In this newsgroup, screenshots need to be sent as attachements. 
Pasting an in line picture doesn't show anything, it's filtered out.


HTH

Carsten

Am 25.08.23 um 10:58 schrieb Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user:

Thanks to all.

On the issue of rights, I have never had any issues before this saga, 
so should I assume I have had 'rights' to save documents under 
administrato??


When you say 'truncated' does that mean you cannot see the CaptureWiz 
images?? I have had issues all along with Gnucash needing specific 
file types to display files for messages, does that apply to 
gnucash-user?? For reasons I don't understand I have never been able 
to copy files from Gnu in my MS Windows10 to the 'required' format, 
for queries about Gnucash!! Quite frustrating.


Finbar

On 24/08/2023 21:01, David Carlson wrote:

[...]

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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Yes, you may be correct, seems likely, but, I was in the middle of a 
session on gnucash and had entered quite a number of transactions before 
the message appeared, which led to my OP.


I may have had finger problems, but, as I said the number of GNU files 
makes it difficult to focus in.


Thanks for the advice, Barry

On 27/08/2023 00:57, R Losey wrote:
The "You don't have rights" message usually means that either the file 
or folder does not have the permissions you'll need (I assume you know 
whether or not you're out of space, and that you are not out of 
space). This error is common when one user is trying to write files to 
a  different user's directory -- most operating systems try to prevent 
this, and your answers to the questions people asked indicate that you 
ran GnuCash as two different users. One user may have read access to 
the files, but not write access.  In that way, you'd go along merrily 
until the Auto-save kicked in and then you'd see that error.


You can check the rights on a file (or folder) by right-clicking on it 
and selecting "Properties" and then looking at the permissions tab. 
(note: I'm not at a windows computer, so I'm going by memory, and I 
may be incorrect).


It was your answers to questions that started all the Q - based on 
your posts, it appeared that you were opening backup files instead of 
the main file.


I also assume that you are using GnuCash more-or-less as it came (that 
is, you did change it to save to a database - you are  still saving to 
a file named ".gnucash".


On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 11:02 AM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user 
 wrote:


I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but.

There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to
gnucash, as I have done since 2019.

On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several
times,
that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never
saw it
before.

Put a question on here and a long series of q ensued.

I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can
I 'go
back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down
gnucash
and restart with a new transaction, etc.

Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me.

As time went by and the q got more complicated I lost the
sequence of
where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images.

Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing
else, in
my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file,
just so
I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights'
message.

A long way around, but no solution.

The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly
confusing.
I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in
IT, but not specifically in GNU.

The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the
bewildering
array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting
needs.
I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on
the same
date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and
the
last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security
in an
accounting software, but not the range of files.

Longwinded? yes.

Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid
November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew,
create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for
2022 to
the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)??

For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for
boring you.

Barry

On 26/08/2023 09:03, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> Dimes to Dollars the permissions issue was that Barry was accessing
> the file as one user (Barry Mahon) but it was saved in the tree of
> another. (administrato)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 8/25/23 6:30 PM, Maf. King wrote:
>> I've just had a thought on a possible reason the original file
could
>> not be
>> saved.  I may be barking up the wrong tree.
>>
>> Does Win have a maximum length for a filename?
>>
>> If Barry (OP) has been repeatedly opening and working on
backups and
>> backups
>> of backups etc.., is it possible that repeated time-stamps have
hit
>> some sort
>> of string-length limit (either in Win, GC, Gnome-libs or whatever
>> layer)??
>>
>> Last time I was actively using MS for anything regularly, the
>> filename length
>> limit was 8+3 ... so I'll defer to pretty much anyone's opinion
on this!
>
> ___
   

Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Sorry for any ignorance, but logged in to what or where? I get a splash 
screen with Mahon Finbar (my 'official,as on cheques) name on my 
(Lenovo) PC and a password.


Barry

On 27/08/2023 11:08, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
When you open that file (or any file) located in the 'administrato' 
users' documents, are you logged in as the 'Barry' user?


If so, THAT is why you do not have permission to save.

Before we go any further, let's clear up that one question.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/26/23 11:01 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but.

There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to 
gnucash, as I have done since 2019.


On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several 
times, that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, 
never saw it before.


Put a question on here and a long series of q ensued.

I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can I 
'go back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down 
gnucash and restart with a new transaction, etc.


Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me.

As time went by and the q got more complicated I lost the sequence 
of where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images.


Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing else, 
in my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file, 
just so I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need 
rights' message.


A long way around, but no solution.

The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly 
confusing. I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long 
history in IT, but not specifically in GNU.


The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the 
bewildering array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, 
accounting needs. I was not, and still am not familiar with the 
numerous files on the same date and time, what is the difference 
between 'backups' 'logs' and the last file I was working on. I 
appreciate the need to have security in an accounting software, but 
not the range of files.


Longwinded? yes.

Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid 
November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew, 
create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for 2022 
to the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)??


For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for 
boring you.


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but.

There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to 
gnucash, as I have done since 2019.


On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several times, 
that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never saw it 
before.


Put a question on here and a long series of q ensued.

I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can I 'go 
back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down gnucash 
and restart with a new transaction, etc.


Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me.

As time went by and the q got more complicated I lost the sequence of 
where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images.


Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing else, in 
my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file, just so 
I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights' message.


A long way around, but no solution.

The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly confusing. 
I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in 
IT, but not specifically in GNU.


The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the bewildering 
array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting needs. 
I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on the same 
date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and the 
last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security in an 
accounting software, but not the range of files.


Longwinded? yes.

Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid 
November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew, 
create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for 2022 to 
the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)??


For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for 
boring you.


Barry

On 26/08/2023 09:03, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Dimes to Dollars the permissions issue was that Barry was accessing 
the file as one user (Barry Mahon) but it was saved in the tree of 
another. (administrato)


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/25/23 6:30 PM, Maf. King wrote:
I've just had a thought on a possible reason the original file could 
not be

saved.  I may be barking up the wrong tree.

Does Win have a maximum length for a filename?

If Barry (OP) has been repeatedly opening and working on backups and 
backups
of backups etc.., is it possible that repeated time-stamps have hit 
some sort
of string-length limit (either in Win, GC, Gnome-libs or whatever 
layer)??


Last time I was actively using MS for anything regularly, the 
filename length

limit was 8+3 ... so I'll defer to pretty much anyone's opinion on this!


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Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Thanks to all.

On the issue of rights, I have never had any issues before this saga, so 
should I assume I have had 'rights' to save documents under administrato??


When you say 'truncated' does that mean you cannot see the CaptureWiz 
images?? I have had issues all along with Gnucash needing specific file 
types to display files for messages, does that apply to gnucash-user?? 
For reasons I don't understand I have never been able to copy files from 
Gnu in my MS Windows10 to the 'required' format, for queries about 
Gnucash!! Quite frustrating.


Finbar

On 24/08/2023 21:01, David Carlson wrote:
Your last message was truncated before the salient part, but I suspect 
that you do not have rights for GnuCash to save files in administrato 
user space.


You need to unscramble which username is your 'standard' username and 
put all your user files including other types from other applications 
such as spreadsheets, pdfs, text files, etc. in that userspace 
Documents folder or some subfolder.  I am not sure how much trouble it 
will be to do that, but you probably need to have administrator rights 
to accomplish that.  Then you can make sure that your 'standard' user 
has read/write rights for all those files so you no longer need 
administrator rights.  I am not a Windows guru so I may have 
overlooked some details to warn you about.  Good luck.




On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 12:47 PM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user 
 wrote:


Thanks for the details, OK, here goes.

I opened this file in Gnu -

No 'log' It had a 'save' icon and when I try to save it I get this -

That is the problem. There is plenty of space.

Finbar

On 24/08/2023 18:28, Maf. King wrote:
> Barry,
>
> thanks for the update.
>
> The *.log and *.gcm files are not your data.  no idea what *.msf
and *.dmp
> would be (maybe a crash dump?).    Your main data file will most
likely be a
> *,gnucash file.
>
> As to backups and datestamps etc see the attached image.
>
> mafs-new-accs.xac is my data file (.xac is the very old suffix,
it still works
> and ,gnucash is equivalent.  I'm just old-school)
>
> ignore the .logs
>
> you can see the datestamps are MMDDhhmmss which should help
you decipher
> your list.
>
> the first backup in my image is 20230824120845.   So it was made
today
> (2023-08-24 at 12:08:45) . as you can see, that time matches
the "create
> time/date" for the base file.
>
> hope that helps you with the deciphering, if you can't get us a
screenshot.
>
> Just try to find the *.gnucash file with the most recent date
stamp in the name,
> move it into a new folder, call it something sensible and open
it.  see what
> transactions GC says is there.  Add a test txn in and try to
save it.
>
> Good luck
> Maf.
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:14:26 BST Mahon Finbar via
gnucash-user wrote:
>> This is an update of sorts of a long series of messages here
since I had
>> an issue with saving my transactions at the end of July.
>>
>> I was unable to copy and send GNU files to the kind people who
tried to
>> help me. I have no idea why, copy and paste after changing to
the file
>> type required just did not work.
>>
>> There were many messages concerning why I seemed to have more
than one
>> set of GNU files with  different user names, and at different
times.
>>
>> I have now downloaded all the files containing "GNU" for the
period of
>> July 2023.
>>
>> There is bewildering list with an equally bewildering number of
names,
>> suffixes, etc., such as -
>>
>> 16  files of type  - gnucash.trace.YXDV81.log each one
duplicated and
>> where only the alphanumeric is different
>>
>> A large number of 'shortcuts' and many files which I think are
backups
>> with several date strings in the same file.
>>
>> I have not been able to decipher these nor files with .msf or
.gcm or
>> .dmp or GnuCash_is1 !!
>>
>> Maybe I have made numerous errors, and unwittingly put files in
>> different places or formats, but. I am a longtime user of
GNU, most
>> of the current longer files start with GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.
>>
>> Finally, all the files I have now are in Documents
>> (C:\users\administrato) with various sub-addresses. That seems
to have
>> sorted the issue with one of the issues raised in a message -
>>
>> "Be sure you are

Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Thanks for the details, OK, here goes.

I opened this file in Gnu -

No 'log' It had a 'save' icon and when I try to save it I get this -

That is the problem. There is plenty of space.

Finbar

On 24/08/2023 18:28, Maf. King wrote:

Barry,

thanks for the update.

The *.log and *.gcm files are not your data.  no idea what *.msf and *.dmp
would be (maybe a crash dump?).Your main data file will most likely be a
*,gnucash file.

As to backups and datestamps etc see the attached image.

mafs-new-accs.xac is my data file (.xac is the very old suffix, it still works
and ,gnucash is equivalent.  I'm just old-school)

ignore the .logs

you can see the datestamps are MMDDhhmmss which should help you decipher
your list.

the first backup in my image is 20230824120845.   So it was made today
(2023-08-24 at 12:08:45) . as you can see, that time matches the "create
time/date" for the base file.

hope that helps you with the deciphering, if you can't get us a screenshot.

Just try to find the *.gnucash file with the most recent date stamp in the name,
move it into a new folder, call it something sensible and open it.  see what
transactions GC says is there.  Add a test txn in and try to save it.

Good luck
Maf.




On Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:14:26 BST Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

This is an update of sorts of a long series of messages here since I had
an issue with saving my transactions at the end of July.

I was unable to copy and send GNU files to the kind people who tried to
help me. I have no idea why, copy and paste after changing to the file
type required just did not work.

There were many messages concerning why I seemed to have more than one
set of GNU files with  different user names, and at different times.

I have now downloaded all the files containing "GNU" for the period of
July 2023.

There is bewildering list with an equally bewildering number of names,
suffixes, etc., such as -

16  files of type  - gnucash.trace.YXDV81.log each one duplicated and
where only the alphanumeric is different

A large number of 'shortcuts' and many files which I think are backups
with several date strings in the same file.

I have not been able to decipher these nor files with .msf or .gcm or
.dmp or GnuCash_is1 !!

Maybe I have made numerous errors, and unwittingly put files in
different places or formats, but. I am a longtime user of GNU, most
of the current longer files start with GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.

Finally, all the files I have now are in Documents
(C:\users\administrato) with various sub-addresses. That seems to have
sorted the issue with one of the issues raised in a message -

"Be sure you aren't confusing the two users on your system! (one is
"Barry Mahon" and the other is "administrato""


Any help at this stage would be welcome. I have a tax declaration to do
by mid November.

I would be willing to start all over again and re-enter the 2022
transactions, the tax year concerned, and create a new 2023 set of
transactions to continue.

Finbar





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Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Thank you and happy to see that someone else is confused by filenames 
and suffixes


A screen grab from CaptureWiz of a screen from part of my 'July' GNU search.

My issue was that towards the end of July I had a strange message which 
said I had no rights to save the current transactions to the file I was 
apparently trying to save to. I had no idea were the 'errant' file came 
from.


I put up a text of the message and then went through a series of 
messages about what was happening, with increasing confusion.


All I want to do is find, if possible, the original 'good' file I was 
working on and continue. I would be quite happy to try on the dates in 
the last few days of July, but where to start?


Can anyone identify a likely candidate? For example in the screengrab 
there are a series of files with 496kb on the same time and date on 30 
July, but I am not sure how to start a GNU session to access the 'right' 
file?


Finbar

On 24/08/2023 18:28, Maf. King wrote:

Barry,

thanks for the update.

The *.log and *.gcm files are not your data.  no idea what *.msf and *.dmp
would be (maybe a crash dump?).Your main data file will most likely be a
*,gnucash file.

As to backups and datestamps etc see the attached image.

mafs-new-accs.xac is my data file (.xac is the very old suffix, it still works
and ,gnucash is equivalent.  I'm just old-school)

ignore the .logs

you can see the datestamps are MMDDhhmmss which should help you decipher
your list.

the first backup in my image is 20230824120845.   So it was made today
(2023-08-24 at 12:08:45) . as you can see, that time matches the "create
time/date" for the base file.

hope that helps you with the deciphering, if you can't get us a screenshot.

Just try to find the *.gnucash file with the most recent date stamp in the name,
move it into a new folder, call it something sensible and open it.  see what
transactions GC says is there.  Add a test txn in and try to save it.

Good luck
Maf.




On Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:14:26 BST Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

This is an update of sorts of a long series of messages here since I had
an issue with saving my transactions at the end of July.

I was unable to copy and send GNU files to the kind people who tried to
help me. I have no idea why, copy and paste after changing to the file
type required just did not work.

There were many messages concerning why I seemed to have more than one
set of GNU files with  different user names, and at different times.

I have now downloaded all the files containing "GNU" for the period of
July 2023.

There is bewildering list with an equally bewildering number of names,
suffixes, etc., such as -

16  files of type  - gnucash.trace.YXDV81.log each one duplicated and
where only the alphanumeric is different

A large number of 'shortcuts' and many files which I think are backups
with several date strings in the same file.

I have not been able to decipher these nor files with .msf or .gcm or
.dmp or GnuCash_is1 !!

Maybe I have made numerous errors, and unwittingly put files in
different places or formats, but. I am a longtime user of GNU, most
of the current longer files start with GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.

Finally, all the files I have now are in Documents
(C:\users\administrato) with various sub-addresses. That seems to have
sorted the issue with one of the issues raised in a message -

"Be sure you aren't confusing the two users on your system! (one is
"Barry Mahon" and the other is "administrato""


Any help at this stage would be welcome. I have a tax declaration to do
by mid November.

I would be willing to start all over again and re-enter the 2022
transactions, the tax year concerned, and create a new 2023 set of
transactions to continue.

Finbar





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[GNC] Issues with gnucash files

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

This is an update of sorts of a long series of messages here since I had 
an issue with saving my transactions at the end of July.


I was unable to copy and send GNU files to the kind people who tried to 
help me. I have no idea why, copy and paste after changing to the file 
type required just did not work.


There were many messages concerning why I seemed to have more than one 
set of GNU files with  different user names, and at different times.


I have now downloaded all the files containing "GNU" for the period of 
July 2023.


There is bewildering list with an equally bewildering number of names, 
suffixes, etc., such as -


16  files of type  - gnucash.trace.YXDV81.log each one duplicated and 
where only the alphanumeric is different


A large number of 'shortcuts' and many files which I think are backups 
with several date strings in the same file.


I have not been able to decipher these nor files with .msf or .gcm or 
.dmp or GnuCash_is1 !!


Maybe I have made numerous errors, and unwittingly put files in 
different places or formats, but. I am a longtime user of GNU, most 
of the current longer files start with GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.


Finally, all the files I have now are in Documents 
(C:\users\administrato) with various sub-addresses. That seems to have 
sorted the issue with one of the issues raised in a message -


"Be sure you aren't confusing the two users on your system! (one is 
"Barry Mahon" and the other is "administrato""



Any help at this stage would be welcome. I have a tax declaration to do 
by mid November.


I would be willing to start all over again and re-enter the 2022 
transactions, the tax year concerned, and create a new 2023 set of 
transactions to continue.


Finbar


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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Apropos, the whole issue ofthehistory of the GNU files, I have been 
having a lot of problems trying to get the into a fo that can be senton 
here here. There are so many files with very small differences it seems 
to "confuse" cutting and pasting.


Could I suggest I try saving individually GNU files from the period 
before 30.7.2023, which is when the issue of not being able to save the 
files started, as .txt files and sent them over?


Barry

On 07/08/2023 23:34, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Yeah, I'm suspecting the "can't write to file" message is when trying 
to save the file back to its original location which is under a 
different user than the one who's desktop is front and center at that 
moment.


But we'll need that error message screenshot to confirm.

And then there is the obvious backup file(s) mess to clean up. And as 
you note, that will likely involve copying files from one user to 
another and correcting their permissions accordingly. (before any 
cleanup within GnuCash itself!)


I'm not versed on such, but I'm sure someone here is.

Regards,
Adrien


p.s. — I used to use Gmail for this list till I discovered the same 
problem so I switched to an account provided by my ISP and it has been 
a few years with no issues. (though I now use the list via gmane. And 
that reminds me, I'm long overdue for a wiki write up for gmane I 
promised!)


On 8/7/23 4:23 PM, David Carlson wrote:
Wow.  I just went to the archives of this list and discovered that 
not all
the messages were appearing in my Gmail folder.  Specifically there 
was a

reply to my first message about providing a path/filename where you
provided

C:\users\administrato\documents is where the only one which "fits" i.e.
where GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash is. There are literally hundreds of others

to which Adrien has now responded.  He correctly suggests that is a 
major

part of your problem, and begins to work on a solution. For some reason
that message from you is not in my Gmail, but that is a completely
different problem that is for another place.

Presumably administrato is your root user name with different rights 
than

your ordinary Barry Mahon user name.  Part of the untangling will be to
aggregate everything under one user name, preferably without root 
rights.

I am not qualified to help you with that.





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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Yes, I appreciate that. Over the years my 'user' name has been changed. 
Administrato is the one used as the baseline. However the Gnu files were 
originally under the Barry Mahon user.


Barry

On 10/08/2023 17:12, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Barry,

Be sure you aren't confusing the two users on your system! (one is 
"Barry Mahon" and the other is "administrato")


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/10/23 2:59 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:
OH, I now find the Tax Account folder has been deleted. I have no 
recollection, but it must have happened.


I'll go through the backup files on Backblaze.

Sorry, as I said, I have no recollection

Barry

On 07/08/2023 23:05, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Barry,

At one point you advised you had GnuCash files in:

C:\Users\Barry Mahon\Documents\Tax accounts and returns\

now, you are saying it is:

C:\users\administrato\documents

These are 2 separate locations and two separate 'users' on this 
machine.


Where do you *think* your GnuCash file is supposed to be? (full 
qualified path please)


And what do you *think* its file name is supposed to be? (just the 
file name here is fine)


And for completeness, can you trigger that 'cannot write to file' 
warning that you originally reported, and send us a screenshot?


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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

OH, I now find the Tax Account folder has been deleted. I have no 
recollection, but it must have happened.


I'll go through the backup files on Backblaze.

Sorry, as I said, I have no recollection

Barry

On 07/08/2023 23:05, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Barry,

At one point you advised you had GnuCash files in:

C:\Users\Barry Mahon\Documents\Tax accounts and returns\

now, you are saying it is:

C:\users\administrato\documents

These are 2 separate locations and two separate 'users' on this machine.

Where do you *think* your GnuCash file is supposed to be? (full 
qualified path please)


And what do you *think* its file name is supposed to be? (just the 
file name here is fine)


And for completeness, can you trigger that 'cannot write to file' 
warning that you originally reported, and send us a screenshot?


Thanks.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/7/23 10:56 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:
 is where the only one which "fits" i.e. where GNU FEB 12 
2019.gnucash is. There are literally hundreds of others


On 07/08/2023 17:33, David Carlson wrote:

What is the complete path/filename for the files?


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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

C:\users\administrato\documents is where the only one which "fits" i.e. 
where GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash is. There are literally hundreds of others


On 07/08/2023 17:33, David Carlson wrote:

What is the complete path/filename for the files?

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 10:04 AM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user 
 wrote:


Thank you for that. However, a file search for any file of that
structure only delivers 1 dated 18.02.2022, which I have mentioned
in an
earlier post is the date on my 'currently loaded' file which won't
save.

There are a number of files with .GCM and number with LCK dated 2021,
others with .log, many more (recent ones) with shortcut.

All the rest are datestamped.

You can see why I am confused and very worried that I have lost
all the
recent data.

Thanks to all for the help and advice. I feel stupid, I thought I was
reasonably capable in IT, but..

I even have problems creating  the proper . versions for
uploading.
'save as' doesn't seem to be working.

Barry

On 07/08/2023 13:17, Michael Hendry wrote:
> On 7 Aug 2023, at 10:46, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user
 wrote:
>
>> OK, lets try to get to the bottom of this.
>>
>> When I say I have had issues, I am unaware that I should not
take the suggestion of 'open anyway' unless
>>
>> I have tried several times to get an answer to why I have had
this issue, and what  to do about it.
>>
>> I think I said in the OP that the message I have been getting
about not having rights was not the first 'save' but I think I may
have had finger problems, around then, as I said in the OP.
>>
>> I will try, again, to send the list of files, I thought I had
created a jpg.
>>
>> For information, the file  that opens today when I start
Gnucash is -
>>
>> GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20230730134528 If that is the date and
time for the file I had open it coincides with my recollection of
the date and time I was working when the message 'could not write
to file, etc., arose.
> That is a backup file (identifiable from the time-stamp at the
end. It looks as though the file you should have opened is:
>
> GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Thank you for that. However, a file search for any file of that 
structure only delivers 1 dated 18.02.2022, which I have mentioned in an 
earlier post is the date on my 'currently loaded' file which won't save.


There are a number of files with .GCM and number with LCK dated 2021, 
others with .log, many more (recent ones) with shortcut.


All the rest are datestamped.

You can see why I am confused and very worried that I have lost all the 
recent data.


Thanks to all for the help and advice. I feel stupid, I thought I was 
reasonably capable in IT, but..


I even have problems creating  the proper . versions for uploading. 
'save as' doesn't seem to be working.


Barry

On 07/08/2023 13:17, Michael Hendry wrote:

On 7 Aug 2023, at 10:46, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user 
 wrote:


OK, lets try to get to the bottom of this.

When I say I have had issues, I am unaware that I should not take the 
suggestion of 'open anyway' unless

I have tried several times to get an answer to why I have had this issue, and 
what  to do about it.

I think I said in the OP that the message I have been getting about not having 
rights was not the first 'save' but I think I may have had finger problems, 
around then, as I said in the OP.

I will try, again, to send the list of files, I thought I had created a jpg.

For information, the file  that opens today when I start Gnucash is -

GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20230730134528 If that is the date and time for the 
file I had open it coincides with my recollection of the date and time I was 
working when the message 'could not write to file, etc., arose.

That is a backup file (identifiable from the time-stamp at the end. It looks as 
though the file you should have opened is:

GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash

Regards,

Michael

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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

BTW, forgot to mention, the date of the last transaction in the file 
that I mentioned that opens, is in 2022!!


I certainly have been updating my records since then.

Barry

On 06/08/2023 18:12, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

On 8/6/23 6:23 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

Quite correct

For a very long time I have had an issue that when I click the app, 
it loads, but after the perl stuff it says"cannot find the file - 
open anyway?" 
The lock file message occurs when there is a lock file (.lck) on the 
last used file.


Lock files are created when GnuCash opens a file and they are deleted 
when GnuCash cleanly exits.


Thus, the presence of a lock file means one of two things:

1. The file is indeed open already. (maybe the app is minimized, or 
maybe the window for it is on an external monitor)


2. GnuCash did not cleanly shut down the last time it was used and the 
lock file remained.


Only if you know for a fact that you are dealing with case #2 is it 
okay to proceed with "open anyway".


From time to time, seemingly randomly, it opens the (presumably last 
used) file and away I go. 


I don't think I've ever seen GnuCash continue to do anything unless 
I've chosen an option from the lockscreen warning. If you are 
observing different behavior, I'd call that a bug.



I am always careful.


Apparently not if you 'presume' the file that gets opened is the last 
used one without making sure. (the file name is in the window title 
bar) And by the names and counts of the files you've provided so far, 
it indeed wasn't the last used file, but a backup. And this has 
happened many times.


But no matter. While you weren't very clear, It appears you are 
opening the app via an app shortcut, and NOT double-clicking the data 
file. If you instead double-click the file, please advise.


Let's move on to cleaning this up. It looks like you started yet 
another thread (not sure why) with a screenshot showing a File 
Explorer list, but it didn't come through. If you can get that 
screenshot to upload (JPG, BMP should work) and we can see the full 
file list with modified and created dates, we can help you sort the mess.


Regards,
Adrien

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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

OK, lets try to get to the bottom of this.

When I say I have had issues, I am unaware that I should not take the 
suggestion of 'open anyway' unless


I have tried several times to get an answer to why I have had this 
issue, and what  to do about it.


I think I said in the OP that the message I have been getting about not 
having rights was not the first 'save' but I think I may have had finger 
problems, around then, as I said in the OP.


I will try, again, to send the list of files, I thought I had created a 
jpg.


For information, the file  that opens today when I start Gnucash is -

GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20230730134528 If that is the date and time for 
the file I had open it coincides with my recollection of the date and 
time I was working when the message 'could not write to file, etc., arose.


As you said there are multiple files opened since.

Barry


On 06/08/2023 18:12, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

On 8/6/23 6:23 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

Quite correct

For a very long time I have had an issue that when I click the app, 
it loads, but after the perl stuff it says"cannot find the file - 
open anyway?" 
The lock file message occurs when there is a lock file (.lck) on the 
last used file.


Lock files are created when GnuCash opens a file and they are deleted 
when GnuCash cleanly exits.


Thus, the presence of a lock file means one of two things:

1. The file is indeed open already. (maybe the app is minimized, or 
maybe the window for it is on an external monitor)


2. GnuCash did not cleanly shut down the last time it was used and the 
lock file remained.


Only if you know for a fact that you are dealing with case #2 is it 
okay to proceed with "open anyway".


From time to time, seemingly randomly, it opens the (presumably last 
used) file and away I go. 


I don't think I've ever seen GnuCash continue to do anything unless 
I've chosen an option from the lockscreen warning. If you are 
observing different behavior, I'd call that a bug.



I am always careful.


Apparently not if you 'presume' the file that gets opened is the last 
used one without making sure. (the file name is in the window title 
bar) And by the names and counts of the files you've provided so far, 
it indeed wasn't the last used file, but a backup. And this has 
happened many times.


But no matter. While you weren't very clear, It appears you are 
opening the app via an app shortcut, and NOT double-clicking the data 
file. If you instead double-click the file, please advise.


Let's move on to cleaning this up. It looks like you started yet 
another thread (not sure why) with a screenshot showing a File 
Explorer list, but it didn't come through. If you can get that 
screenshot to upload (JPG, BMP should work) and we can see the full 
file list with modified and created dates, we can help you sort the mess.


Regards,
Adrien

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[GNC] Files in adminisitrato/documents

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Is this what you need??

Barry
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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Quite correct

For a very long time I have had an issue that when I click the app, it 
loads, but after the perl stuff it says"cannot find the file - open 
anyway?" From time to time, seemingly randomly, it opens the (presumably 
last used) file and away I go. I am always careful, because of that 
issue I 'quit' and 'save' religiously, even though I am not religious.


In the configuration locations there is a whole spectrum of places, I'll 
try sending the list if you want it?


With the greatest of respect, I have always found the plethora of files 
that appear around Gnucash locations hard to decipher. I'm sure there is 
a reason for  that, but.


On 02/08/2023 17:56, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

I know Michael. That's the whole point. Have you read the other 
threads from this OP? Their files appear to be a mess of backup files 
used as their book.


And the OP still hasn't answered *how* they open their book, by app 
shortcut, or by clicking the file. I suspect clicking the file. And I 
suspect not paying attention while doing so. Just as you noted.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/2/23 9:24 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:

"GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK"


And while that is a file from gnucash it is almost certainly NOT the 
name the user assigned to the file that is their books << and yes, it 
is a gnucash internal backup file >> The presence of that lock means 
that this backup file was left open. So while OK to delete the lock 
(if you know that gnucash is not running) it is NOT  the file you 
want to open when you start gnucash. Note that if one did 
accidentally open this file could be on the "recently open" list and 
if on the top if the list, will be reopened when you start gnucash. 
THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT.


So LOOK at what gets opened when you start gnucash (the bar should 
show the file name). If NOT the right file, use file=>open to specify 
the correct file name and then once open, shut down. Now wen you 
reopen gnucash will be on top of the list (most recently opened)


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[GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK

I did a restart of the pc and did the search again for .lck and this is 
is what I get.


It is marked modified on 1.03.2021, type LCK file, 0 KB

Further mystery. I appreciate your request to slow down, and I want to, 
but the sequence of events, since the beginning of this saga, is so strange.


Thanks again for your patience, Barry


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[GNC] Cannot write to file a new wrinkle

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Hello again,

After removing, renaming etc. the "offending file" as described, I now 
have a screen with 'unsaved book' which doesn't react to the 'close' option.


This appeared after a text box which said that the original offending 
file was not available, it was in the 'history' did I want to keep it, I 
said 'no' and then the screen I mentioned appeared.


I tried 'saving as' but it still won't go away.

Does anybody know what an 'unsaved book' is?

BTW, the same problem I have had all along (cannot save) is still there.

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Re: [GNC] Cannot write to file

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Sorry, I have found the autosave it is five minutes.

Barry

On 29/07/2023 14:02, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
First, those long file names with numbers in them suggest at some 
point you've opened a backup file and then worked in it rather than 
your main file.


This could be a big problem in that you might think you've entered 
transactions and then find them missing.


Does the title bar of your GnuCash window have a similar looking file 
name? You'll need to clean that up. If so, report back that fact and 
folks here can suggest some remedies.


Second, the Save function could be triggered by an auto-save 
preference. If you are using the default XML backend, you can set the 
file to save every certain number of minutes. If you didn't 
intentionally save the file under one of the SQL backends, (and you'd 
know) then you are using the default.


Otherwise, usually a CTRL+S (CMD+S on a Mac) will trigger a Save.

As for why you can't save, if you need to, the message suggests lack 
of space on the drive, or a permissions issue. We don't yet have 
enough information to determine which one.


Regards,
Adrien

On 7/29/23 2:28 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

Since you asked "exactly" I'll try my best.

I was entering  data to a bank account and then I got the strange 
message.


I had already entered several items to the a/c when the message 
appeared.


I suspect I had pressed a wrong key, causing the message I mentioned 
to appear. When I clicked ok I got a screen with  a list of files.


There is no title on the file, just 'save' and it is in 'users/barry 
mahon/documents/tax accounts and returns


That looks like an account which contains an annual P, but now has 
a list of files such as -


C:\Users\Barry Mahon\Documents\Tax accounts and returns\P 
2022.gnucash.20230726121238.gnucash.20230728171739.gnucash


Dated yesterday. It looks like I am trying to save my bank a/c to 
this file.


My question is should I delete these files back to the original P 
files? and then try to reset everything? but how??


In fact I have just updated the OS, and restarted Gnu, but this same 
'save' file appears when I try to save the original banks a/c entries.


There are no other files open but the bank a/c file/

That is the best explanation I can make of what has happened. 
Grateful for any advice.


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Re: [GNC] Cannot write to file

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Yes, I have files with a "similar looking" file names, but the suffixes 
are  .log and .ode (the suffix of my libre office text documents).


I tried 'tidying up' I deleted all the files with recent dates (assuming 
they are being entered as the bank a/c entries) but the same result  -


appears and says what it says, and I cannot move on. The save and down 
arrow are 'live' but it produces the same message.


The original bank a/c file has no new entries, but when I try entering a 
few and 'saving' them the same message as above appears.


I haven't been able to locate the auto-save preference, I'm pretty sure 
I have an auto-save set, but where is it?


Thank you so much for the help so far.

Barry

On 29/07/2023 14:02, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
First, those long file names with numbers in them suggest at some 
point you've opened a backup file and then worked in it rather than 
your main file.


This could be a big problem in that you might think you've entered 
transactions and then find them missing.


Does the title bar of your GnuCash window have a similar looking file 
name? You'll need to clean that up. If so, report back that fact and 
folks here can suggest some remedies.


Second, the Save function could be triggered by an auto-save 
preference. If you are using the default XML backend, you can set the 
file to save every certain number of minutes. If you didn't 
intentionally save the file under one of the SQL backends, (and you'd 
know) then you are using the default.


Otherwise, usually a CTRL+S (CMD+S on a Mac) will trigger a Save.

As for why you can't save, if you need to, the message suggests lack 
of space on the drive, or a permissions issue. We don't yet have 
enough information to determine which one.


Regards,
Adrien

On 7/29/23 2:28 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

Since you asked "exactly" I'll try my best.

I was entering  data to a bank account and then I got the strange 
message.


I had already entered several items to the a/c when the message 
appeared.


I suspect I had pressed a wrong key, causing the message I mentioned 
to appear. When I clicked ok I got a screen with  a list of files.


There is no title on the file, just 'save' and it is in 'users/barry 
mahon/documents/tax accounts and returns


That looks like an account which contains an annual P, but now has 
a list of files such as -


C:\Users\Barry Mahon\Documents\Tax accounts and returns\P 
2022.gnucash.20230726121238.gnucash.20230728171739.gnucash


Dated yesterday. It looks like I am trying to save my bank a/c to 
this file.


My question is should I delete these files back to the original P 
files? and then try to reset everything? but how??


In fact I have just updated the OS, and restarted Gnu, but this same 
'save' file appears when I try to save the original banks a/c entries.


There are no other files open but the bank a/c file/

That is the best explanation I can make of what has happened. 
Grateful for any advice.


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Re: [GNC] Cannot write to file

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Since you asked "exactly" I'll try my best.

I was entering  data to a bank account and then I got the strange message.

I had already entered several items to the a/c when the message appeared.

I suspect I had pressed a wrong key, causing the message I mentioned to 
appear. When I clicked ok I got a screen with  a list of files.


There is no title on the file, just 'save' and it is in 'users/barry 
mahon/documents/tax accounts and returns


That looks like an account which contains an annual P, but now has a 
list of files such as -


C:\Users\Barry Mahon\Documents\Tax accounts and returns\P 
2022.gnucash.20230726121238.gnucash.20230728171739.gnucash


Dated yesterday. It looks like I am trying to save my bank a/c to this 
file.


My question is should I delete these files back to the original P 
files? and then try to reset everything? but how??


In fact I have just updated the OS, and restarted Gnu, but this same 
'save' file appears when I try to save the original banks a/c entries.


There are no other files open but the bank a/c file/

That is the best explanation I can make of what has happened. Grateful 
for any advice.


Thanks, Barry

6/07/2023 20:54, Adrien Monteleone wrote:


Do you have enough disk space as the message suggests?

The 'file' is a report? What *exactly* were you trying to do when you 
got the message?


Regards,
Adrien

On 7/26/23 5:29 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

I have a message -

"Could not write to file C: xxx check that you have permission to 
write to this file and there is sufficient space to create it"


The file is a report of annual P that I have open , but I am not 
working on it


What is the problem??


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Re: [GNC] Cannot write to file

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

The problem is I don't know): I suspect that I may have placed something 
on the keyboard, as you do when one is dealing with accounts);


I think from the look at what happens when I click the link, a folder 
opens with the gnu set of files in it, headed (delete), that I opened 
some sort of gnu file?


How can I eliminate it??.

Sorry.

Barry

On 26/07/2023 20:54, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Do you have enough disk space as the message suggests?

The 'file' is a report? What *exactly* were you trying to do when you 
got the message?


Regards,
Adrien

On 7/26/23 5:29 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

I have a message -

"Could not write to file C: xxx check that you have permission to 
write to this file and there is sufficient space to create it"


The file is a report of annual P that I have open , but I am not 
working on it


What is the problem??


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[GNC] Cannot write to file

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

I have a message -

"Could not write to file C: xxx check that you have permission to 
write to this file and there is sufficient space to create it"


The file is a report of annual P that I have open , but I am not 
working on it


What is the problem??

Thanks Barry

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Re: [GNC] Saved Report Configurations

[Mahon Finbar]

OK, a little nit picky? but whatever rows your boat. I just need the 
detail for the taxman once a year, he doesn't deserve a PDF 


Delighted with the responses, bully for Gnucasha fabulous app and 
services.


Finbar

On 13/02/2023 17:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
I do the same. I have general configurations saved, but anything 
particular to that solitary instance of the report, I do not save as 
part of the configuration. Those will be one-offs so no need to save 
them as a config, just run and if I want, save as a PDF.


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/13/23 8:18 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:

However, there IS a different approach possible.

I do  not consider the SAME report except run for a different 
date/period to be a different "configuration". I consider 
"configuration" to refer to things like display options, nesting 
levels, what accounts to include/exclude, etc. But not dates.


So how do I handle the reality that I have many P reports, many 
Balance Sheet reports, etc. run for different dates?


I create directories (file folders) to hold them with suitable names 
(like Balance Sheets) and then after running the report in gnucash I 
export it to this folder using a suitable file name that clearly 
identifies it. Thus I might name the the file which is a Balance 
Sheet run for the effective date of Jan 31 "BalanceSheet20230131"


Mind, I've been using gnucash since 2007, so if saving within gnucash 
data. It would  be a ridiculous amount of clutter within gnucash data 
if I kept them all there. The fact that I knew to do this from the 
start (when there were just a few) is because I was a freshly retired 
pro. Avoid future problems.


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Re: [GNC] Saved Report Configurations

[Mahon Finbar]

Thank you so much David, much appreciated and entirely logical.

I now have 2021 and 2022 nicely arranged.

Just to be sure, for 2023 I should save it, when the time comes, as 
'Save Config as' and give it the appropriate title??


Thanks again.

Finbar

On 11/02/2023 13:44, david whiting wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 at 11:28, Mahon Finbar  wrote:
[...]

My issue is to establish which report is which, if possible, by
re-creating the title with the dates of the periods covered. Then I can
eliminate any dupes, etc.


Try this:

1. Open Reports -> Saved Report Configurations and select the first report.
2. If this report has the correct settings, go back to Reports ->
Saved Report Configurations and click on the middle icon on the right
(see attached image). You can then edit the report name to make it
clear which report it is, e.g. by adding the year or time period to
the report name
3. If the report doesn't have the correct settings, e.g. dates, choose
the correct settings, then click on Save Config on the menu bar (not
Save Config As). Then go back to Reports -> Saved Report
Configurations, and click on the middle icon on right (see attached)
to edit the report name
4. Then repeat the process with the next report, and so on until you
have named all of the reports.
5. Then review the reports and see which ones need to be deleted

David

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Re: [GNC] Saved Report Configurations

[Mahon Finbar]

Not really; as a result of following the 'help' I now have a set of 
reports numbered 1 to 14, in random order, but none (except one, 
partially) have been retitled as the advice the help advise suggested I 
could.


I haven't been able to identify the individual reports, except if I try 
to select them and see what the dates on them are. However, the first 
three I tried are all for the same period 2023, which I have not yet 
competed, obviously.


My issue is to establish which report is which, if possible, by 
re-creating the title with the dates of the periods covered. Then I can 
eliminate any dupes, etc.


Seems to me the process suggested is faulty, or the procedure is bugged.

As I said, it isn't critical for the older reports but I would like to 
sort out the newer (post 2020 perhaps) ones.


I was just hoping for advice, from anyone who has experience of saving 
reports.


Barry


On 10/02/2023 20:04, ed...@billiau.net wrote:


On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 17:28:04 +0100
Mahon Finbar  wrote:


However, it doesn't seem to work, I now have a list of 'saved report
configurations' from those terminating with no number at all to 21,
all called profit & loss, in a sort of  random order.

You can delete reports that you don't want any more, is that what you
want?

Liz
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[GNC] Saved Report Configurations

[Mahon Finbar]

OK, here we go again, my last query on here produced zero 
responses,never mind.


Now, I am trying to rationalise my Report Configurations.

Under reports>saved report configurations I have a mish mash of titles 
and dates of reports.


I have tried the "help" suggested change of name by locating the 
reported report and saving it as 'save config as' and giving it the 
"correct" dates as a name.


However, it doesn't seem to work, I now have a list of 'saved report 
configurations' from those terminating with no number at all to 21, all 
called profit & loss, in a sort of  random order.


I wouldn't mind, since they are mostly gone to the tax man, but I have 
to root around to find the latest one.


Barry

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[GNC] Getting a history

[Mahon Finbar]

Hi,

I bet this has been asked before, but just in case

Is it possible, anywhere, to create a history of actions, or 
transactions, or anything?


Thanks, Barry

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[GNC] Why is this entry "in and out"

[Mahon Finbar]

Hi,

I have an account for a savings a/c and I want to add the latest 
interest entry. However, when I click the entry title it open with the 
balance, but when I add the interest it fills in the amount as an 
addition and then a subtraction and the balance doesn't change


Have a the wrong a/c type?In the transfer column it is headed 
Equity:Opening Balances


Thanks, Finbar

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.13 Released

[Mahon Finbar]

Thank you John and all the team.

My Vivaldi browser didn't seem to like SourceForge, resorted to Chrome.

Barry, and as they say in Provence bon bout d'an..


On 19/12/2022 17:00, john wrote:

Thanks, I'd forgotten to unhide the folder. SF should work OK now.

Regards,
John Ralls



On Dec 19, 2022, at 8:35 AM, Murugan Muruganandam  
wrote:

i was able to download from github and install the same




Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Mahon Finbar 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 12:50 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.13 Released

Sourceforge doesn't have 4.13

Barry

On 18/12/2022 23:07, John Ralls wrote:

The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 4.13, the fourteenth release in 
the stable 4.x series

Between 4.12 and 4.13, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

   • Bug 760274 - The Statusbar "forgets" when register doesn't have focus
   • Bug 798545 - Crash when updating document link on vendor bill
   • Bug 798614 - Croatia to join the Euro
   • Bug 798629 - gnucash crashes attempting to import OFX file
   • Bug 798633 - 4.12 build failure on 32-bit Linux: "No code for module"
   • Bug 798640 - Segfault when running saved report
   • Bug 798649 - Crash when closing Edit Style Sheets dialog while Style 
Sheet Properties dialog is still open.
   • Bug 798653 - Schedule Calendar event description pop up window does 
not track mouse position
   • Bug 798657 - Import Summary language is wrong
   • Bug 798664 - Result of 'gnucash --nofile' is marked dirty
   • Bug 798669 - Multicolumn Balance Sheet not printing exchange rates
include equity accounts in the exchange rate commodities list.

   • Bug 798672 - Preferences are not saved nor loaded, ERROR  
g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != NULL' failed
   • Bug 798680 - Not able to match a reverse transaction of a previously 
matched transaction.
   • Bug 798681 - Previously imported investment income transactions may 
not be filtered.
   • Bug 798694 - Cursor in the wrong place after pasting with 
auto-completion
The following fixes and improvements were not associated with bug reports:

   • Don't normalize text when pasting from the clipboard or appending 
descriptions or notes during imports.
   • [register] Delay post-ime reset of the selection to works around bug 
798587.
   • [ofx import] Clean up importing investment transactions for smoother 
workflow and better UI behavior.
   • [account-piecharts] drill-down piechart: tree-depth is at most 6
   • Fix numerous memory leaks.
   • [ifrs-report] From Bug 798004 allow Cr cash to offset Dr fee and remove invalid 
"dividend reinvestment" during short.
   • [gtest-qofevent.cpp] Add comprehensive tests for qofevent
   • [test-qofbook] Test that gnc_features_test_unknown returns a suitable 
error message
   • [test-qofbook.c] add test for gnc_features_set_unused
   • [gnc-features.cpp] backport gnc_features_set_unused from master
   • [qofbook.cpp] backport qof_book_unset_feature from master
   • Move gnc-euro.[ch] to engine and unit test it.
   • [test-qofbook] basic features test: Sets a feature and tests it's set. 
it's impossible to design a book with unknown features using the API.
   • po/README: Remove relics from ancient context forms
   • [test-ifrs-cost-basis] amend tests to accommodate extra column.
   • [ifrs-cost-basis] compare register vs calculated capgain per 
transaction.
   • Accomodate WebKit package version update to webkit2gtk-4.1.
   • [assistant-stock-transaction] input positive capgains for Credit 
income account.
New API: None.

Deprecations:

   • qof_book_get_features
New and Updated Translations: Chinese (Simplified), Croatian, English 
(Australia), English (New Zealand), English (United Kingdom), French, 
Hungarian, Indonesian, Japanese, Korean, Macedonian, Polish, Spanish, Urdu

Help translate GnuCash on Weblate

Known Problems

Complete list of all open bugs.

Documentation

Concurrent with the release of GnuCash 4.13 we're pleased to also release a new 
version of the companion Help and Tutorial and Concepts Guide

Between 4.12 and 4.13, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

   • Bug 798620 - Unable to build docs on Mageia Cauldron
   • Bug 798623 - ENG. Typo "documenation"
   • Bug 798624 - Document how to check if GnuCash is running when updating 
quotes
   • Bug 798645 - screens instead of WINDOWS
   • Bug 798665 - New: ENG. Typo: Unnecessary determiner "a" [2.6.1. 
Migrating financial data]
   • Bug 798674 - Broken link on Chapter 17. Python Bindings
The following fixes and improvements were not associated with bug reports:

   • Manual Account_Actions: Tippfehler-Korrektur
   • Review URLs and replace them by entities in all parts an

Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.13 Released

[Mahon Finbar]

Sourceforge doesn't have 4.13

Barry

On 18/12/2022 23:07, John Ralls wrote:

The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 4.13, the fourteenth release in 
the stable 4.x series

Between 4.12 and 4.13, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

• Bug 760274 - The Statusbar "forgets" when register doesn't have focus
• Bug 798545 - Crash when updating document link on vendor bill
• Bug 798614 - Croatia to join the Euro
• Bug 798629 - gnucash crashes attempting to import OFX file
• Bug 798633 - 4.12 build failure on 32-bit Linux: "No code for module"
• Bug 798640 - Segfault when running saved report
• Bug 798649 - Crash when closing Edit Style Sheets dialog while Style 
Sheet Properties dialog is still open.
• Bug 798653 - Schedule Calendar event description pop up window does 
not track mouse position
• Bug 798657 - Import Summary language is wrong
• Bug 798664 - Result of 'gnucash --nofile' is marked dirty
• Bug 798669 - Multicolumn Balance Sheet not printing exchange rates
include equity accounts in the exchange rate commodities list.

• Bug 798672 - Preferences are not saved nor loaded, ERROR  
g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != NULL' failed
• Bug 798680 - Not able to match a reverse transaction of a previously 
matched transaction.
• Bug 798681 - Previously imported investment income transactions may 
not be filtered.
• Bug 798694 - Cursor in the wrong place after pasting with 
auto-completion
The following fixes and improvements were not associated with bug reports:

• Don't normalize text when pasting from the clipboard or appending 
descriptions or notes during imports.
• [register] Delay post-ime reset of the selection to works around bug 
798587.
• [ofx import] Clean up importing investment transactions for smoother 
workflow and better UI behavior.
• [account-piecharts] drill-down piechart: tree-depth is at most 6
• Fix numerous memory leaks.
• [ifrs-report] From Bug 798004 allow Cr cash to offset Dr fee and remove invalid 
"dividend reinvestment" during short.
• [gtest-qofevent.cpp] Add comprehensive tests for qofevent
• [test-qofbook] Test that gnc_features_test_unknown returns a suitable 
error message
• [test-qofbook.c] add test for gnc_features_set_unused
• [gnc-features.cpp] backport gnc_features_set_unused from master
• [qofbook.cpp] backport qof_book_unset_feature from master
• Move gnc-euro.[ch] to engine and unit test it.
• [test-qofbook] basic features test: Sets a feature and tests it's 
set. it's impossible to design a book with unknown features using the API.
• po/README: Remove relics from ancient context forms
• [test-ifrs-cost-basis] amend tests to accommodate extra column.
• [ifrs-cost-basis] compare register vs calculated capgain per 
transaction.
• Accomodate WebKit package version update to webkit2gtk-4.1.
• [assistant-stock-transaction] input positive capgains for Credit 
income account.
New API: None.

Deprecations:

• qof_book_get_features
New and Updated Translations: Chinese (Simplified), Croatian, English 
(Australia), English (New Zealand), English (United Kingdom), French, 
Hungarian, Indonesian, Japanese, Korean, Macedonian, Polish, Spanish, Urdu

Help translate GnuCash on Weblate

Known Problems

Complete list of all open bugs.

Documentation

Concurrent with the release of GnuCash 4.13 we're pleased to also release a new 
version of the companion Help and Tutorial and Concepts Guide

Between 4.12 and 4.13, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

• Bug 798620 - Unable to build docs on Mageia Cauldron
• Bug 798623 - ENG. Typo "documenation"
• Bug 798624 - Document how to check if GnuCash is running when 
updating quotes
• Bug 798645 - screens instead of WINDOWS
• Bug 798665 - New: ENG. Typo: Unnecessary determiner "a" [2.6.1. 
Migrating financial data]
• Bug 798674 - Broken link on Chapter 17. Python Bindings
The following fixes and improvements were not associated with bug reports:

• Manual Account_Actions: Tippfehler-Korrektur
• Review URLs and replace them by entities in all parts and languages 
excepting in comments or FDL appendix
• manual, ch_Finance-Quote: fix broken entities
• gnc-gui-struct.dtd: fix some mistakes and add entities for menuitems 
and menuchoice.
• Update url-irc to "irc://irc.gimp.net/gnucash" see the email 
announcement
• Partial Modernization of Manual:C:Business: Differentiation of 
admonitions and improvement of lists
• Manual:C: Convert CSV assistant into 
• Multi-split csv elaboration
• Update app-fq-vers to "1.53"
• Replace "Online Quote Setup" instructions in Guide by links to the 
manual chapter.
• Enhance bookinfos by 

Re: [GNC] Reconciling credit card

[Mahon Finbar]

"This is essentially a 'reversing' transaction. (which you could enter 
manually, or via Transaction > Add reversing transaction, with the 
original expense transaction selected)"


Aha, the solution, thank you so much, and it works just fine when you 
enter the date the reimbursement was received in the date box that 
appears when you enter 'transparent>' etc.


That answer is what this email service is for.. 

Happy holidays, if you celebrate.

Finbar


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Re: [GNC] Reconciling credit card

[Mahon Finbar]

OK, no problem with writing to help.

The original entry is just an 'ordinary' entry of an expense, on a 
specific date. No issues.


However, having removed the original error from the credit card a/c I 
tried to make an entry in the travel a/c as a 'rebate' as that was the 
only option available for money  in.


That resulted in two entries in expenses travel both under the same 
transfer, one under expense and the other on the next line under rebate.


I have noticed that the original expenditure is 'transfer' under 
'assets' and my bank a/c name, while the two entries under the 
reimbursement are 'transfer' as expenses:travel. Is there some anomaly 
there?


BTW, I am not that rich to have missed 1000€ I just wondered why my 
credit card a/c entries were so unusual. 


The other question is why does expenses:travel have 'rebate' as a column 
heading??


Finbar

On 12/12/2022 21:19, Liz Dodd wrote:

On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 15:44:49 +
Mahon Finbar  wrote:


Another possibility?

In March 2021 I was reimbursed 1,340.98 by an airline for a trip to
Japan which was cancelled due to Covid.

In error I entered the reimbursement against my credit card, although
I had paid it from my bank.

That would account for the 'credit' on the credit card?

However, the original spend was allocated to 'expenses' > travel.
When I try to rectify it as a rebate on the expenses a/c the column
option is 'rebate' but it appears twice, as an expense and a rebate
and the expenses a/c does not reflect the reduction in the outgoings?

Why?

Finbar


Finbar
I am loath to add more advice, because I'm not sure where you are in
solving this.
Let's just imagine that you have just found the error, that the
reimbursement is in the wrong account in your books. Maybe you
found it when the bank account reconciliation was incorrect.
At this point
Did you add the transaction to the bank account in Gnucash?

Go to your Expenses:Travel account. Is that reimbursement recorded once
or twice there?
You would expect to have one entry, linked to the bank account. It
should decrease your expenses.
If you have two entries, delete the one linked to the credit card.
If you have one entry, and it is linked to the credit card, edit it to
be linked to the bank account. Of course, any of us would have already
noticed an extra thousand dollars in a bank account and tried to find
the reason. ;)

Liz
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Re: [GNC] Reconciling credit card

[Mahon Finbar]

Another possibility?

In March 2021 I was reimbursed 1,340.98 by an airline for a trip to 
Japan which was cancelled due to Covid.


In error I entered the reimbursement against my credit card, although I 
had paid it from my bank.


That would account for the 'credit' on the credit card?

However, the original spend was allocated to 'expenses' > travel. When I 
try to rectify it as a rebate on the expenses a/c the column option is 
'rebate' but it appears twice, as an expense and a rebate and the 
expenses a/c does not reflect the reduction in the outgoings?


Why?

Finbar

On 11/12/2022 19:55, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Are you trying to put images inline? They are getting stripped out by 
Mailman. Just put them in 'as attachments'.  (setting in your mail 
client)


Credit accounts normally have a negative balance. If you want to see 
them as positive change the setting in Preferences > Accounts > 
Reversed balanced accounts to "Credit accounts".


If that is already set, and you see a negative balance for *any* 
account, then that account currently has a 'contra-balance', that is, 
a balance opposite of its normal state. In this case, it would 
indicate an over-payment to the card company.


Regards,
Adrien

On 12/11/22 8:58 AM, Mahon Finbar wrote:
That is what I do, so why am I getting an increased -ve balance in 
the balance column, like this?


or this?


the bank account entry looks like this, under the 'payments out and 
payments in' columns


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Re: [GNC] Reconciling credit card

[Mahon Finbar]

OK, I had forgotten you cannot attach images as pics.

I did check the a/c and afaics, I didn't pay the CC 1000 extra, I'll 
check again or adjust the preferences, or something.


Thanks, Finbar

On 11/12/2022 19:55, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Are you trying to put images inline? They are getting stripped out by 
Mailman. Just put them in 'as attachments'.  (setting in your mail 
client)


Credit accounts normally have a negative balance. If you want to see 
them as positive change the setting in Preferences > Accounts > 
Reversed balanced accounts to "Credit accounts".


If that is already set, and you see a negative balance for *any* 
account, then that account currently has a 'contra-balance', that is, 
a balance opposite of its normal state. In this case, it would 
indicate an over-payment to the card company.


Regards,
Adrien

On 12/11/22 8:58 AM, Mahon Finbar wrote:
That is what I do, so why am I getting an increased -ve balance in 
the balance column, like this?


or this?


the bank account entry looks like this, under the 'payments out and 
payments in' columns


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Re: [GNC] Reconciling credit card

[Mahon Finbar]

That is what I do, so why am I getting an increased -ve balance in the 
balance column, like this?


or this?


the bank account entry looks like this, under the 'payments out and 
payments in' columns


??

On 11/12/2022 12:19, Fred Bone wrote:

On 11 December 2022 at 12:03, Mahon Finbar said:


OK, I have columns marked payment; charge; and balance.

I find these non-formal labels confusing.


I translated them as payment to the bank/credit card company; spend on the
credit card and the balance after entries in one or the other.

Do I change the headings? or am I in the wrong sort of register or type of
a/c? or are the entries in the wrong place?

In the "credit card" account:
When you buy something, the amount should be in the Credit column, the
one headed "Charge". This will increase the "Balance".
When you pay the provider from your bank account, the amount should be in
the Debit column, the one headed "Payment". This will reduce the
"Balance".

In an Expense account, the amount (relating to the thing you bought) will
be in the Debit column, which I see gets headed "Expense". This increases
the "Balance".

In a Bank account, the amount (relating to paying off your credit card)
will be in the Credit column, informally headed "Withdrawal". This
reduces the "Balance".


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Re: [GNC] Reconciling credit card

[Mahon Finbar]

OK, I have columns marked payment; charge; and balance.

I translated them as payment to the bank/credit card company; spend on 
the credit card and the balance after entries in one or the other.


Do I change the headings? or am I in the wrong sort of register or type 
of a/c? or are the entries in the wrong place?


Thanks

On 09/12/2022 17:17, Fred Bone wrote:

On 09 December 2022 at 15:58, Mahon Finbar said:


Hi,
I am sure this is explained somewhere, but I haven't been able to find a
simple explanation.

I have a register of transactions in an a/c called credit card.

I enter the data from the monthly statement, allocating them to various
expenses and enter the monthly payment from a bank account.

[In my naivety]?? I assumed that when I enter the monthly payment the a/c
will reflect the 'net' situation, i.e. the balance of current transactions
less the latest payment.

I seemed to be motoring along ok until a while ago when everything in the
balance column ended up -ve!!

Typically a se of entries looked like this -

but now it looks like this -

Obviously I have been doing something wrong or have created an error.

But what??

Probably entered either the payment or the purchases in the wrong column.

Purchases should be in the Credit column and payments from the bank
account should be in the Debit column. (That is, when you look at the
credit card a/c. Obviously the payment will be in the Credit column in
the bank a/c).


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[GNC] Reconciling credit card

[Mahon Finbar]

Hi,
I am sure this is explained somewhere, but I haven't been able to find a 
simple explanation.


I have a register of transactions in an a/c called credit card.

I enter the data from the monthly statement, allocating them to various 
expenses and enter the monthly payment from a bank account.


[In my naivety]?? I assumed that when I enter the monthly payment the 
a/c will reflect the 'net' situation, i.e. the balance of current 
transactions less the latest payment.


I seemed to be motoring along ok until a while ago when everything in 
the balance column ended up -ve!!


Typically a se of entries looked like this -

but now it looks like this -

Obviously I have been doing something wrong or have created an error.

But what??

Finbar
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Re: [GNC] Saved report configurations

[Mahon Finbar]

I use an app called Capture Wiz to capture and cntl/v them into 
messages. What should I be doing?


Anyway, I showed the saved link of the web page from Reports>Saved 
Report Configs which shows P as the first line and P 21 as the 
second. The undated one is actually 2021 (maybe I didn't date it??)  and 
the send one is 2022...(maybe another booboo...? ) I finally clicked the 
undated one and there was 2021yippee.


So, it has worked out OK, for 2021, but I don't have any of the older 
ones, I have been saving since 19xx and have been able to recover them, 
until this year, but they are no longer there.


Finbar


On 06/10/2022 19:20, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
It looks like you were putting screenshots inline rather than as 
attachments.


Those images did not come through, so we can't see what you are 
referring to.


Your saved configuration should be under: Reports > Saved Report 
Configurations. You'll then get a pop-up with a list of your saved 
configurations. Select the one you want, but you might still have to 
adjust some options properly.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/6/22 1:03 PM, Mahon Finbar wrote:

Hello,

I have saved the report configurations for my annual P over the 
years, or I thought I had.


It being the time I should make my annual tax return I went looking 
for the configuration for 2021 that I had started and found -


but when I selected and clicked the 2021 one I get -

Etc, which I had started a while back, but not the 2021 version.

Did I make an error somewhere and/or is it possible to find the 2021 
one??



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[GNC] Saved report configurations

[Mahon Finbar]

Hello,

I have saved the report configurations for my annual P over the years, 
or I thought I had.


It being the time I should make my annual tax return I went looking for 
the configuration for 2021 that I had started and found -


but when I selected and clicked the 2021 one I get -

Etc, which I had started a while back, but not the 2021 version.

Did I make an error somewhere and/or is it possible to find the 2021 one??

TIA, Finbar
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Re: [GNC] Share Values recording

[Mahon Finbar]

In the guide the assumptions seem to be US based??

For example I have one of my share which is quoted on the Israel Stock 
Exchange, and others on the Irish, UK, etc.


How do I get those in? Another neophyte question.

Finbar


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Re: [GNC] Share Values recording

[Mahon Finbar]

Thank you for the information/advice.

Yes, just the information. I have an asset a/cw ith some of the data but 
it is showing increase and decrease and value in an 'overall' format, 
i.e. on the status of the whole a/c, not on the individual items. I do 
need dividend data for tax purposes.


I didn't find anything useful in the help, I'll try the Guide.

Finbar

On 11/08/2022 21:27, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Do you simply want to track activity but are not concerned with 
individual share counts and prices?


If that is the case, then a basic account of type Asset would do.



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[GNC] Share Values recording

[Mahon Finbar]

Hello,

I am trying to rationalise my shares (or things that have a moving 
value) holdings.


I understand the basics of GNU,  in that I have been a user for some 
time and have been able to record transactions, create reports to 
satisfy the taxman, etc., but I keep getting bits and pieces of 
information from the various places where my shares are registered, 
mostly about values and dividends and the like.


I have a somewhat random selection of 'accounts' with information about 
my (relatively small number) of holdings (a word that is a bit strong 
for my situation)


What I am aiming to do is get a simple account or accounts where I can 
just register what I paid, what dividends and other income stuff I may 
have had and items such as current value.


Is there a simple source in the 'help' for creating that and what is it 
called and what does it contain?? If not where should I start??


Sorry to be a neophyte, but I am a bit frustrated.

Finbar (located in Europe, but only really dealing in €)

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash

[Mahon Finbar]

I have seen the various replies, and agree. I don't see icons on my 
screens, I see words like 'file', etc. are we reading the same software?


I want to take this opportunity to thank all those who take the time and 
effort to answer remarks on here, some are queries, all are treated fairly.


Finbar  (in SW Ireland, just for info.)


On 02/08/2022 20:26, James Baxter via gnucash-user wrote:

This is James Baxter, email kangaro...@yahoo.com

To let you all know, I think I am done with the program. I am looking at a 
screen and it is wear you find all the icons. Not looking good.

I placed two months of my bank statement in two times. I can’t find where I 
placed.

Thanks
James Baxter
kangaro...@yahoo.com

Sent from my iPad
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Re: [GNC] Selecting older transactions to unreconcile

[Mahon Finbar]

Thank you both, I should have realised that, but that is what 
gnucash-user is for is it not 


Finbar

On 17/02/2022 16:27, David Carlson wrote:
It is very easy to adjust the register display settings to show only 
reconciled or unreconciled transactions dated  within a certain 
range.  That should help.


On Thu, Feb 17, 2022, 9:02 AM Mahon Finbar  wrote:

True, but since I don't know where the error is, I thought of
doing it
per month, and that way finding it.

That is why I need to find a way to display the reconciled
transactions
on a month by month basis.


It is usually a transaction in the wrong column.


Thanks Barry


On 16/02/2022 17:54, Gyle McCollam wrote:
> If you only have a few errors, it would be easier to just Click
on the
> "y" in the reconciled column of the transaction in the appropriate
> account and select unreconcile.
>
> Thank You,
> *Gyle McCollam*
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> 609.680.2326Mobile
>
> gmccol...@live.com <mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>email
>
>
----
> *From:* gnucash-user
>  on behalf of
Mahon
> Finbar 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2022 9:05 AM
> *To:* Gnucash Users 
> *Subject:* [GNC] Selecting older transactions to unreconcile
> End of year issue.
>
> I have reconciled most of 2021 but inevitably I have
subsequently found
> a few errors.
>
> So, I want to select a reconcile date and then "unreconcile" some
> transactions.
>
> I assumed using the suggested ctrl-A and spacebar technique
would enable
> me to do it using a date I specified for the reconciliation, but the
> reconcile window only shows the latest unreconiled data.
>
> Is there a technique for arriving at the data set for a specific
> reconcile date?
>
> Tnks
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Re: [GNC] Selecting older transactions to unreconcile

[Mahon Finbar]

True, but since I don't know where the error is, I thought of doing it 
per month, and that way finding it.


That is why I need to find a way to display the reconciled transactions 
on a month by month basis.



It is usually a transaction in the wrong column.


Thanks Barry


On 16/02/2022 17:54, Gyle McCollam wrote:
If you only have a few errors, it would be easier to just Click on the 
"y" in the reconciled column of the transaction in the appropriate 
account and select unreconcile.


Thank You,
*Gyle McCollam*

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326Mobile

gmccol...@live.com <mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>email


*From:* gnucash-user 
 on behalf of Mahon 
Finbar 

*Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2022 9:05 AM
*To:* Gnucash Users 
*Subject:* [GNC] Selecting older transactions to unreconcile
End of year issue.

I have reconciled most of 2021 but inevitably I have subsequently found
a few errors.

So, I want to select a reconcile date and then "unreconcile" some
transactions.

I assumed using the suggested ctrl-A and spacebar technique would enable
me to do it using a date I specified for the reconciliation, but the
reconcile window only shows the latest unreconiled data.

Is there a technique for arriving at the data set for a specific
reconcile date?

Tnks

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[GNC] Selecting older transactions to unreconcile

[Mahon Finbar]

End of year issue.

I have reconciled most of 2021 but inevitably I have subsequently found 
a few errors.


So, I want to select a reconcile date and then "unreconcile" some 
transactions.


I assumed using the suggested ctrl-A and spacebar technique would enable 
me to do it using a date I specified for the reconciliation, but the 
reconcile window only shows the latest unreconiled data.


Is there a technique for arriving at the data set for a specific 
reconcile date?


Tnks

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Re: [GNC] Lodging a cheque to an a/c - 'cash in wallet'??

[Mahon Finbar]

OK, I get that now, I thought I should register it under "gifts" a debit 
headline. but it is better under 'gifts received'


Thanks

On 17/01/2022 18:09, Derek Atkins wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, January 17, 2022 10:51 am, Mahon Finbar wrote:

Hi,

My wife got a cheque (or check if you insist) and lodged it in her bank
account.

I want to enter it as a deposit to her a/c. It only seems to accept
Assets:Current Assets:Cash in Wallet as a transfer entry without
entering two transactions - deposit and withdrawal

Since the amount will be credited to the a/c "cash in wallet" somehow
doesn't seem right?

Is there a 'proper' way to enter a cheque lodgement?

Just like any other deposit   You debit your checking/bank account for
the amount of the check, and then credit the amount from wherever the
funds are coming from, like Income:Salary, Income:Gifts Received, etc.

Why did she get a check?  What was it paying for?  That will help you
decide where the credit the funds.


Finbar
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[GNC] Lodging a cheque to an a/c - 'cash in wallet'??

[Mahon Finbar]

Hi,

My wife got a cheque (or check if you insist) and lodged it in her bank 
account.


I want to enter it as a deposit to her a/c. It only seems to accept 
Assets:Current Assets:Cash in Wallet as a transfer entry without 
entering two transactions - deposit and withdrawal


Since the amount will be credited to the a/c "cash in wallet" somehow 
doesn't seem right?


Is there a 'proper' way to enter a cheque lodgement?

Finbar

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Re: [GNC] Correcting reconciles

[Mahon Finbar]

Thanks all,

"Un-reconciling doesn't delete anything. I'm not sure what you are 
describing there"


- I am describing an obvious error, such as an entry in the wrong a/c, 
it happens.


"If ALL transactions are reconciled that doesn't mean your balances are 
0.00, it just means that whatever the balance happens to be, you have 
verified it to be correct"


0.00 means for me, in the, in the difference column, that I have checked 
the data I have entered against the bank a/c, for example. If I have 
sorted out all the invoice sent out against the receipts. and don't have 
0.00  maybe someone hasn't paid, or deducted a discount, or


I am aware of what reconciling is supposed to do. My question is what is 
the meaning of 'unreconcile selection' in the context of trying to reach 
0.00 instead of


for example, in the difference column, as I presume is what reconciling 
is supposed to achieve. I gather from the replies it doesn't mean much.


I assume that un-reconciling a suspect transaction such as a transaction 
in the wrong column should show up as an anomaly. But what about a 
'selection' ?


The other issue is one that has been well aired in these columns, 
opening balances that don't look right. I can appreciate why this is 
untouchable, but it is, to, me, always a suspicious matter.


I have 'cheated' once or twice when the difference is pennies and 
introduced  balancing entry 


Anyway, I'll try to be more disciplined, new year's resolution 

Finbar

On 24/12/2021 18:22, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
There's no shortcut to finding out why you are out of balance. There 
are 'math tricks' however to guide you. For example, if the unbalanced 
amount ends with a '9' there is a decent probability you transposed 
digits somewhere.


Un-reconciling doesn't delete anything. I'm not sure what you are 
describing there.


Un-reconciling simply is removing the 'y' ("yes") flag in the 'r' 
("reconciled?") column and changing it to 'n' ("no").


It doesn't affect any balances. The flag is just for you to know that 
you have verified the transaction is correct and matches a statement 
from your financial institution.


Un-reconciling then, will mark the transaction as 'unverified'. You 
can filter your register view to show only un-reconciled transactions 
so you can then do research and find out why it doesn't match, or in 
fact if it does, then mark it as reconciled.


If ALL transactions are reconciled that doesn't mean your balances are 
0.00, it just means that whatever the balance happens to be, you have 
verified it to be correct.



Regards,
Adrien

On 12/24/21 9:07 AM, Mahon Finbar wrote:

Happy Holidays,

Not wanting to ruin your festivities, but where is the best place to 
find help, and advice on rectifying reconciliations.


Is see there is a way to "unreconcile" a selection, but I don't 
understand what the effect is or why to do it. For example I can 
maybe unreconcile to create 0.00 as the overall result but the 
transactions are still there!!


My issue is that somewhere along the line since 1.1.2013 when I 
started Gnu something has gone wrong, things seemed to be OK and 
because I was lax in doing reconciles I fell off the 0.00.


I there a way to find the anomaly?

Finbar


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[GNC] Correcting reconciles

[Mahon Finbar]

Happy Holidays,

Not wanting to ruin your festivities, but where is the best place to 
find help, and advice on rectifying reconciliations.


Is see there is a way to "unreconcile" a selection, but I don't 
understand what the effect is or why to do it. For example I can maybe 
unreconcile to create 0.00 as the overall result but the transactions 
are still there!!


My issue is that somewhere along the line since 1.1.2013 when I started 
Gnu something has gone wrong, things seemed to be OK and because I was 
lax in doing reconciles I fell off the 0.00.


I there a way to find the anomaly?

Finbar

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Re: [GNC] clearing reconciled transactions

[Mahon Finbar]

Oh, does that work? It is a standard MS way of doing it but I never 
tried in Gnucash.


Thanks

On 02/12/2021 17:22, Kalpesh Patel wrote:

Just in case need details, this is what I do:

  


Go to first row and then hold the [shift] key while clicking the last row to
select a range that I want to reconcile. Selected row's display reverses in
color for the range that is in focus. Now I press [space bar] to toggle the
entire selection - note that if I have selected some that are already
reconciled then pressing [space bar] will syncs all of them up to
reconciled. Pressing [space bar] again reverses it from previous setting,
ie, if I press [space bar] twice then I will be back to where I started
originally as it toggles from reconciled to unreconciled state. This is on
Windows platform.

  

  


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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 09:23:40 -0500

From: "Derek Atkins" mailto:de...@ihtfp.com> >

To: "Billie-Internet" mailto:drbb...@gmail.com> >

Cc: "Gnucash Users" mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >

Subject: Re: [GNC] clearing reconciled transactions

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Hi,

  


On Thu, December 2, 2021 8:36 am, Billie-Internet wrote:


Good Morning,
My question seems simple but I am probably not searching the right key
words.
Current gnucash 4.4 on windows 10.
When reconciling the checkbook, sometimes I need to clear all the
transactions that are checked and start over.  To this point , I am
unchecking one at a time.
Does anyone know of a way to uncheck all at once?
  


No, but in the reconcile window you can use a combination of [space] and

[down-arrow] to quickly uncheck everything.

  


Thanks,
Billie
706-383-9057
  


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Re: [GNC] clearing reconciled transactions

[Mahon Finbar]

Ditto here, I haven't found any way in Gnu of 'marking' text for delete. 
Probably a good idea, the forensic accountants on here would never 
accept it


Also ditto for the page at a time proposal. It is a complete bummer when 
you reconcile a biggish sequence of transactions and find you are ££$$€€ 
off..


On 02/12/2021 22:01, Liz Dodd wrote:

Contrary to everyone else, I just cancel the reconcilation and restart.

When I have multiple pages for the one account I find it easier to
reconcile each page separately, because if I have large numbers of
transactions it is harder to locate any errors.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 222, Issue 51

[Mahon Finbar]

Agreed wholeheartedly. Is it not time that there would be some way of 
sorting of the messages.


There is no doubt that the gnucash-user service is fantastic when you 
have an issue but it gets a little tedious when the inbox is clogged 
with strings of messages from the cognoscenti about rather obscure 
anomalies.


Just a thought.

On 01/10/2021 03:08, Stan Brown wrote:

May I give a gentle reminder to everyone: "Re: [GNC] gnucash-user
Digest, Vol 222, Issue 51" is an absolutely terrible subject line.

Please, for the sake of everyone on the list, use a subject line that
describes the actual subject. There are a lot of messages on this list,
and it's a significant time-saver if we can use the subject line to
decide whether to open a message or delete it unread.

Thanks!


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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.6 Released

[Mahon Finbar]

+1

On 28/06/2021 03:29, Stan Brown wrote:

On 2021-06-27 14:51, John Ralls wrote:

The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 4.6, the sixth release in the 
stable 4.x series
Between 4.5 and 4.6, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

...

It's change logs like this that remind me what a massive effort GnuCash
is. My thanks to you and all the development team -- your work is very
much appreciated!


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Re: [GNC] Question about Profit-Loss Report

[Mahon Finbar]

All very understandable. It has always intrigued me how accountants deal 
with 'late payments' i.e. bills paid after the close of the year. If I 
understand the discussion, ongoing (accrual based) businesses are always 
behind when it comes to an analysis of the state of play, unless all 
invoices are paid within the accounting period? Is that why a cash based 
spreadsheet is needed?


Isn't it possible in GNU to 'clear' an entry when the amount is paid? 
Then it will appear in the reconciliation?


Just a question, I don't want to drag out the discussion.

On 01/06/2021 04:13, Howard M. Fried wrote:

On 5/31/21 9:08 PM, Alan Hopkins wrote:

Hello Howard

I agree with both Michaels - you need to understand the difference 
between
accounting records & reports prepared on an accruals basis vs a cash 
basis. You

should do some reading on basic accounting.

GNUCash used for business uses the accrual basis - (invoices are 
registered in
accounts receivable, bills are registered in accounts payable). 
Depending on
the number of invoices & bills involved, you may find that you need 
to develop

your own cash report on a spreadsheet.

Some of these links may  be of help to you:
https://www.accountingtools.com/articles/how-to-convert-accrual-basis-to-cash-basis-accounting.html 

 


https://www.bookstime.com/articles/accrual-to-cash-conversion

https://www.double-entry-bookkeeping.com/bookkeeping-basics/accrual-to-cash-conversion-excel-worksheet/ 

 



GNUCash is excellent software (a big thank you to the developers!) 
and you can
get more understanding of basic accounting and using the business 
features by

referring to the Tutorial & Concepts guide:
https://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?rev=4=C=guide


I hope that is of some help to you

Cheers

Alan


Thank you Alan, and both Michaels.  I was an educator for 34 years 
before launching a second career as an Editor.  Clearly, I need to 
take up the role of student and learn some basic accounting methods.  
I will certainly examine the materials that you have so kindly provided.


Regards,
Howard


On 1/6/21 12:42 am, Michael Hendry wrote:

On 31 May 2021, at 15:10, Howard M. Fried  wrote:

I have several invoices that were issued in 2020 but paid in 2021. 
These funds are not included in a P report for 2021, apparently 
because the report is based on date of invoice issue, or have I 
missed something.


Is it possible to get the 2020 Sales that were paid in 2021 into 
the report for 2021?  Simply extending the Report date range 
backward is not a solution because many invoices that were issued 
and paid in 2020 will be included.  Or am I to include unrealized 
assets for 2020 as profit, like the P report does (I have no 
accounting, financial, or legal experience in such matters).


Thank you for considering,
Howard Fried
Not an accountant either, Howard, but I believe the approach varies 
according to whether your books are kept on a cash or an accrual basis.


If cash, then reports are based on the date when you received 
income, or the date you made a payment for expenses.


I don’t use the business features, but I think that you will be 
working on an accrual basis, and have reports on Accounts Receivable 
and Accounts Payable which carry over the end of the financial year.


Michael


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Re: [GNC] Reconcile Opening Balance

[Mahon Finbar]

Yes, the two suggestions are the way, I expect. I was just hoping to 
avoid the formatting stuff, and the drudgery of checking. I enter the 
various bank entries directly in the a/c where they 'belong' as I expect 
most, non accountant trained, people do, especially if you came to Gnu 
from Quicken


Matching from previous balance is  bit of a problem when you only do the 
reconciles when the tax man calls., to avoid answering awkward 
questions 


Most times the difference is in pennies, so I don't worry, [probably 
finger problems].


Thanks for the help. BTW, what import format works best in your opinion?

(I still need to find the lacuna)

Barry

On 04/05/2021 08:48, Ove Grunnér wrote:

Here is how I deal with this.

When I Download a statement from a bank I convert it to a standard 
format to make importing to gnucash easier, as all banks have 
different formats.
When I do this conversion I also add a new transaction for each day 
when the statement has an end of day balance.

Description: Balance on 01/01/2021, €1,234.56
Date: 01/01/2021
Withdrawal: 0
Transfer account: Information Balance

That way it is very easy to spot where there is a mistake.

If you can't automate this you can easily create a manual transaction 
each month or week when you reconcile your account.


Kind regards Ove

On Mon, 3 May 2021, 15:54 Derek Atkins, <mailto:de...@ihtfp.com>> wrote:


Hi,

On Mon, May 3, 2021 9:40 am, Mahon Finbar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am sure this has come up beforebut.
>
> Reconciling an account - I have a starting balance of €x,xxx.xx
and an
> ending balance from the date of the latest bank statement of
€x,xxx.xx.
>
> So far so good. I have checked the entries in the a/c and all
are either
> R or c. I have also checked there are no non-cleared that I
don't know
> about.
>
> However, I have a surplus when 'reconciled' and I cannot find
out why
>
> Is there anywhere I can find where the starting balance number comes
> from? Is that 'wrong' giving a surplus or am I missing
transaction(s)
> somewhere?

Within GnuCash it is computed (the sum on all reconciled data).
It *should* match the ending balance from your previous
statement.  You
can go check that.  If it does NOT match, then you might have
inadvertantly un-reconciled a previous transaction, or possibly
moved it
or accidentally changed it.

If the balance DOES match, then go through each transaction
carefully --
most likely there is a typo in there, a missing transaction, or an
extra
transaction.  (I had this issue recently where I mis-typed
something, and
strangely the difference exactly equalled another transaction.. 
It took
me about 3 passes before I finally found the issue).

> Barry

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[GNC] Reconcile Opening Balance

[Mahon Finbar]

Hi,

I am sure this has come up beforebut.

Reconciling an account - I have a starting balance of €x,xxx.xx and an 
ending balance from the date of the latest bank statement of €x,xxx.xx.


So far so good. I have checked the entries in the a/c and all are either 
R or c. I have also checked there are no non-cleared that I don't know 
about.


However, I have a surplus when 'reconciled' and I cannot find out why

Is there anywhere I can find where the starting balance number comes 
from? Is that 'wrong' giving a surplus or am I missing transaction(s) 
somewhere?


Barry

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Re: [GNC] Reconcile "Starting Balance" is wrong

[Mahon Finbar]

Yes, I have found both, transactions 'out of order' and balance not 
'correct'


I usually find that I made a booboo in an entry or duplicated one or 
wrong date/year


To be honest, even after checking there is often a few centimes 
difference but I don't let it bother me. Life is too short.


Barry

On 04/04/2021 04:14, David Cousens wrote:

Roland,

It also depends where in the register display you are getting the balance at
a specific date. Transactions do not always get entered in GnuCash in the
order they appear on a statement Rarely in the case of my credit card and
sometimes also my paypal account.

If you are looking at the balance displayed on the Balance column on the
right, the balance at a specific date is not necessarily the reconciled
balance as there may be unreconciled transactions in between. Not all
transactions on that date may necessarily have been reconciled. My
transactions are often out of the order in the register cf order in the
statement

The reconciled total in the status bar at the bottom of the window is the
total of all reconciled transactions in that register and is what should
appear in the starting balance for the reconciliation. If this does not
agree with the opening balance on the statement or the closing balance of
the previous statement then you have an error somewhere earlier in your
records.



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Re: [GNC] Income not appearing in P report

[Mahon Finbar]

Thanks both.

Thanks for the 'accounting' way of doing it and I will try some of the 
proposals.


My case is a little bit different; just to clarify - I pay a fixed 
amount per month, as many utilities suppliers offer, but, my supplier 
cannot (yet) handle the reduction from a government subsidy, on age 
grounds, so the authorities pay that monthly. Therefore I have two 
transactions, paying the fixed amount and receiving the subsidy as an 
"income" event. Slight wrinkle, the subsidy is, for reasons I do not 
understand, different every month, there is a higher and a lower sum 
every second month. 


I'll check the report settings for that issue.

Thanks, Barry

On 30/03/2021 16:21, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:



I get reimbursed  a certain amount of electricity costs each month, 
as a separate transaction in to my bank a/c. I enter them as 
income:reimbursement in the gnucash transaction.


However, nothing appears in my P report under 'reimbursement' but 
if I click on the headline in the report they all appear on the list 
of reimbursements as assets:BoIBarry as entries under 'transfer'  
(where BoI Barry is my bank a/c)


Why?


Two problems here, only one of which is gnucash

1) Reimbursements should be considered reduction of the expense rather 
than income. Eventually somebody else paid this portion of your 
expenses, not you. This is a matter of accounting, independent of gnucash


If you need to track pending reimbursements (to make sure you receive 
them) you can do it this way: Let's say because of "work at home" your 
employer is paying 10% of your electric bill: (by which I mean YOU pay 
the electric bill, submit a reimbursement request, and receive a 
reimbursement)


a) You pay an electric bill:  This would be a split transaction, 
credit your bank account for the payment and debit 90% to electricity 
expense and 10% to pending reimbursements << that would be an asset 
account -- somebody owes you something, the origin of the term "debit" >>


b) Your employer reimburses you:  Debit the bank account and credit 
pending reimbursements. Notice that the balance of pending 
reimbursements shows you what is outstanding (reimbursements you have 
not yet received)



2) BUT --- you claim to have  gnucash problem with some income or 
expense account not showing on your P report (has various names for 
essentially the same report). You need to check report options. The 
most likely reasons for an account to be missing in this report:


a) You are applying explicit selection as to what accounts to appear. 
If you aren't explicitly specifying accounts, it isn't the cause


b) You are suing the option "do not show accounts with zero balance" 
AND there were no transactions affecting this account DURING THE TIME 
INTERVAL OF THE REPORT. There is always a time interval for this report.


Michael D Novack





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[GNC] Items not appearing in P report

[Mahon Finbar]

Hi,

I get reimbursed  a certain amount of electricity costs each month, as a 
separate transaction in to my bank a/c. I enter them as 
income:reimbursement in the gnucash transaction.


However, nothing appears in my P report under 'reimbursement' but if I 
click on the headline in the report they all appear on the list of 
reimbursements as assets:BoIBarry as entries under 'transfer'  (where 
BoI Barry is my bank a/c)


Why?

Thanks, Barry

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Re: [GNC] FW: Problem booting software

[Mahon Finbar]

I just had exactly the same issue! John Ralls and Alan Holmes provided 
me with answers.


Essentially it is because your installation doesn't seem to have 
'cleaned' the path when it installed the version you are using, afaics. 
I was using an earlier version of GnuCash for quite a while before it 
happened.


In the end I made sure I had a 'good' backup of the data and then 
uninstalled GC, using, in my case, an uninstall app., not the MS 
version, which removed all the entrails. I then made sure the backup was 
still there and installed the latest version of GC. I only seemed to 
have lost a few entries.


It worked for me, I don't understand why the issues arose after I had 
been using GC for months.


Barry

On 26/03/2021 04:50, Tom wrote:




-Original Message-
From: Tom [mailto:pen...@iinet.net.au]
Sent: Friday, 26 March 2021 11:03 AM
To: 'mailto:gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org'
Subject: Problem booting software

When I try to launch gnucash I receive the attached error message.
I am running:
Gnucash v 4.4 however the problem started after I downloaded v4.3
Windows 10.0.1 Build 19041.
If I repeatable press OK the program eventually boots and operates well.

Any suggestions of how to fix this annoyance?

Tom Hoffman


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[mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+pentom=iinet.net...@gnucash.org] On Behalf Of
gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org
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Subject: Request to mailing list gnucash-user rejected

Your request to the gnucash-user mailing list

 Posting of your message titled "Help"

has been rejected by the list moderator.  The moderator gave the following
reason for rejecting your request:

"Write something more useful, because you are going to have to provide a lot
more information before you can get an answer. Something more descriptive
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Re: [GNC] Strange message on launching app

[Mahon Finbar]

Thanks both, I have it sorted more or less, it remains to tidy up the 
various versions of the files that are in different locations on the PC.


I used Revo Uninstaller Pro to uninstall the 'active' version, Revo is 
what I have used over the years to get rid of files which, inadvertently 
mostly, ended up on my PC, it does a great job of removing all sorts of 
trash which apps leave lying about. Even then it took Revo a while to 
sort out the stuff.


In the end I have a reinstalled 4.4 with only a few recent transactions 
missing.


Thanks again, Barry (the Irish homonym for Finbar)

On 17/03/2021 19:07, Alan A Holmes wrote:

Finbar,

I'm running GnuCash Version 4.4 on Windows 10 Pro.

I have a single GnuCash file, called Alan, which I store in a GnuCash folder
in my Documents folder, i.e. C:\Users\\Documents\GnuCash\Alan.gnucash...

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Re: [GNC] Strange message on launching app

[Mahon Finbar]

OK, I found the GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash file saved on 19.2.2021, but not 
the others. Anyway if that is the "good" backup that should be OK? It 
only has 362kb in it.


As it happens the file wasn't in a GnucashLCK folder, there were two 
files on 8.3.2021 with the same name and time and date, but in different 
folders, one of which was empty and lots of other stuff on an around 
that date.


The storage of GNU files has always been a bit of a mystery to me, they 
seem to shuffle around, a search of files with .gnucash results in more 
than 600 answers!!


OK, if I uninstall and reinstall will it find the 'good' backup mentioned?

Thanks so much for your patience and help.

Finbar

On 15/03/2021 17:03, John Ralls wrote:

The trace file associated with a crash just means that GnuCash got far enough 
into the program to open it before trying to load the library linked to 
libgncmod-app-utils.dll. That's not meaningful.

"GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash" is a very odd name for a book, but OK. The existence of a lock 
file from the 8th means that that's when you last successfully opened the file, and that the full 
name is "GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK" means that you've been 
working with a backup file since mid-afternoon on 19 February. The other two files aren't from 
GnuCash; perhaps they're download or cache files from your browser?

Navigate to the folder where "GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK" is and look for "GNU 
FEB 12 2019.gnucash", "GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash", and files of the form "GNU 
FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.MMDDHHMMSS.gnucash" which will be backups of your GnuCash sessions 
since you opened the backup file instead of the original.

Regards,
John Ralls



On Mar 15, 2021, at 7:13 AM, Mahon Finbar  wrote:

OK, I appreciate that, thank you.

However, in trying to find the last backup file before uninstalling, I am 
finding some very strange file dates and times in the list.

For example - gnucash.trace.3JC5Z0.log - on 14.3.2021 - a time when I could not 
get the app to load, [with the same message as originally].

I don't seem to have any backups, which according to the help file should read 
as .MMDDHHMMSS.gnucash

The 'latest' file in the list is GNU FEB 12 
2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK on 8.3.2021 and I have several - 
https___bugs_gnucash_org_enter_bug_cgi_product=GnuCash files on the same date, 
as well as several - 
{7C5A40EF-A0FB-4BFC-874A-C0F2E0B9FA8E}_gnucash_doc_gnucash_README_win32-bin_txt 
files dated the same date, 8.3.2021.

The file names don't seem to align with the help file data.

Any ideas?

Thanks Finbar

On 13/03/2021 19:47, John Ralls wrote:


The important thing is to make sure that you don't restore an old version of 
GnuCash dlls. The most straightforward way is to leave executables out of the 
backup plan because you can always download them again from their respective 
sources. A bit less simple is to have a separate backup set for them so that 
you can easily roll back after an update or restore more quickly after a disk 
failure.

Regards,
John Ralls




On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Mahon Finbar 
  wrote:

OK, I'll try that, thanks.

I have the most recent version for Windows 10, afaik. Haven't recently 
downloaded any update and have been using the current version for a while, like 
since last q 2020. Could be a storage glitch, I suppose.

Should I make a specific backup? I have backblaze for backup, but do I need to 
ensure files are the latest?

Finbar

On 12/03/2021 21:08, John Ralls wrote:


You don't say what version of GnuCash, but GnuCash 4.x renamed 
libgncmod-app-utils.dll to libgnc-app-utils.dll, so it seems that you have some 
leftover bits from an earlier installation. Try uninstalling GnuCash with Apps 
& Settings then delete the installation directory--it defaults to C:\Program 
Files (x86)\gnucash--before reinstalling GnuCash 4.4.

Regards,
John Ralls




On Mar 12, 2021, at 3:20 AM, Mahon Finbar 
  wrote:

Oops the screen grab didn't transfer -

"the procedure entry point gmc_scm_call_1_symbol_to_string could not be located in 
the dll C:\programfiles(x86)\gnucash\libgncmod-app-utils.dll"

On 12/03/2021 10:52, Mahon Finbar wrote:


Sorry, sent this with the wrong email address.

A Windows message? Using W10, no recent change with Gnucash.

Needs task manager to get rid of the message.

Finbar

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Re: [GNC] Strange message on launching app

[Mahon Finbar]

OK, I appreciate that, thank you.

However, in trying to find the last backup file before uninstalling, I 
am finding some very strange file dates and times in the list.


For example - gnucash.trace.3JC5Z0.log - on 14.3.2021 - a time when I 
could not get the app to load, [with the same message as originally].


I don't seem to have any backups, which according to the help file 
should read as .MMDDHHMMSS.gnucash


The 'latest' file in the list is GNU FEB 12 
2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK on 8.3.2021 and I have several - 
https___bugs_gnucash_org_enter_bug_cgi_product=GnuCash files on the same 
date, as well as several - 
{7C5A40EF-A0FB-4BFC-874A-C0F2E0B9FA8E}_gnucash_doc_gnucash_README_win32-bin_txt 
files dated the same date, 8.3.2021.


The file names don't seem to align with the help file data.

Any ideas?

Thanks Finbar

On 13/03/2021 19:47, John Ralls wrote:


The important thing is to make sure that you don't restore an old version of 
GnuCash dlls. The most straightforward way is to leave executables out of the 
backup plan because you can always download them again from their respective 
sources. A bit less simple is to have a separate backup set for them so that 
you can easily roll back after an update or restore more quickly after a disk 
failure.

Regards,
John Ralls



On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Mahon Finbar  wrote:

OK, I'll try that, thanks.

I have the most recent version for Windows 10, afaik. Haven't recently 
downloaded any update and have been using the current version for a while, like 
since last q 2020. Could be a storage glitch, I suppose.

Should I make a specific backup? I have backblaze for backup, but do I need to 
ensure files are the latest?

Finbar

On 12/03/2021 21:08, John Ralls wrote:

You don't say what version of GnuCash, but GnuCash 4.x renamed 
libgncmod-app-utils.dll to libgnc-app-utils.dll, so it seems that you have some 
leftover bits from an earlier installation. Try uninstalling GnuCash with Apps 
& Settings then delete the installation directory--it defaults to C:\Program 
Files (x86)\gnucash--before reinstalling GnuCash 4.4.

Regards,
John Ralls



On Mar 12, 2021, at 3:20 AM, Mahon Finbar  wrote:

Oops the screen grab didn't transfer -

"the procedure entry point gmc_scm_call_1_symbol_to_string could not be located in 
the dll C:\programfiles(x86)\gnucash\libgncmod-app-utils.dll"

On 12/03/2021 10:52, Mahon Finbar wrote:

Sorry, sent this with the wrong email address.

A Windows message? Using W10, no recent change with Gnucash.

Needs task manager to get rid of the message.

Finbar

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Re: [GNC] Strange message on launching app

[Mahon Finbar]

OK, I'll try that, thanks.

I have the most recent version for Windows 10, afaik. Haven't recently 
downloaded any update and have been using the current version for a 
while, like since last q 2020. Could be a storage glitch, I suppose.


Should I make a specific backup? I have backblaze for backup, but do I 
need to ensure files are the latest?


Finbar

On 12/03/2021 21:08, John Ralls wrote:

You don't say what version of GnuCash, but GnuCash 4.x renamed 
libgncmod-app-utils.dll to libgnc-app-utils.dll, so it seems that you have some 
leftover bits from an earlier installation. Try uninstalling GnuCash with Apps 
& Settings then delete the installation directory--it defaults to C:\Program 
Files (x86)\gnucash--before reinstalling GnuCash 4.4.

Regards,
John Ralls



On Mar 12, 2021, at 3:20 AM, Mahon Finbar  wrote:

Oops the screen grab didn't transfer -

"the procedure entry point gmc_scm_call_1_symbol_to_string could not be located in 
the dll C:\programfiles(x86)\gnucash\libgncmod-app-utils.dll"

On 12/03/2021 10:52, Mahon Finbar wrote:

Sorry, sent this with the wrong email address.

A Windows message? Using W10, no recent change with Gnucash.

Needs task manager to get rid of the message.

Finbar

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Re: [GNC] Strange message on launching app

[Mahon Finbar]

Oops the screen grab didn't transfer -

"the procedure entry point gmc_scm_call_1_symbol_to_string could not be 
located in the dll C:\programfiles(x86)\gnucash\libgncmod-app-utils.dll"


On 12/03/2021 10:52, Mahon Finbar wrote:

Sorry, sent this with the wrong email address.

A Windows message? Using W10, no recent change with Gnucash.

Needs task manager to get rid of the message.

Finbar

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[GNC] Strange message on launching app

[Mahon Finbar]

Sorry, sent this with the wrong email address.

A Windows message? Using versionW10, no recent change with Gnucash.

Needs task manager to get rid of the message.

Finbar

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Re: [GNC] RTFM

[Mahon Finbar]

Funny that, I got nothing from either, I was a bit surprised. Just 
checked and zilch


Anyway, all is well, and thanks to you all.

Barry

On 23/02/2021 11:11, Maf. King wrote:

On Tuesday, 23 February 2021 08:43:20 GMT Mahon Finbar wrote:

Hello,

Now I realise why I got no answers.

RTFM, and after quite a while reading and referring, I gor it fixed, I hope.

I still don't know why it crashed.

Thanks


You did get replies.

Adrian Monteleone replied to your first message "Lost files" within about 3
hours.

Your second message "Lost Files Update" had a response about 1.5 hours later
from Michael Hendry

Both asked for more info, and none came from you.

Notwithstanding that, happy to hear that you figured it out and are back
running again!

Maf.





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[GNC] RTFM

[Mahon Finbar]

Hello,

Now I realise why I got no answers.

RTFM, and after quite a while reading and referring, I gor it fixed, I hope.

I still don't know why it crashed.

Thanks

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[GNC] Lost Files update

[Mahon Finbar]

Hello again,

No reaction to my previous post.

The list of files under gnucash are all dated 5 Feb 2018 should 
there be something more recent?


TIA for any reply

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[GNC] Lost Files

[Mahon Finbar]

Hello,

In the middle of working normally in

Version: 4.2
Build ID: 4.2+(2020-09-26)

In Windows 10 home version 1903

it crashed while entering an amount in the withdrawal column.

I restarted and it showed me  a report I had created a while back and 
nothing else. When I tried to open the 'accounts' under the file tab it 
hangs with the blue circle and then drops me back to the report,


There don't appear to be any newer accounts, that I can find.

Help please, should I look in my backblaze latest backup but what filr 
should I be looking for?


TIA



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Re: [GNC] Changing end date on a saved report config option

[Mahon Finbar]

That's itI had done it before and it worked but, this time the 
display on the options>general page was a bit 'off' and so the 'apply' 
wasn't visible!!


After your message the light dawned and I set 'full screen' and there it 
was


Many thanks and a happy new year.

Barry

> On 15/01/2021 17:28:10, Michael or Penny Novack 
(stepbystepf...@comcast.net) wrote:

> > No way for us to know what you are doing wrong, but it SHOULD work.
>
> You run the report << wrong end date shows up >> You then use Edit +>
> Report Options and then the "general" tab. You should see there a way to
> specify start and end dates.
>
> If you were doing it this way, remember you have to "apply" etc. on the
> way back to make it stick. When I think I made a change but it didn't
> seem to happen, THAT (forgetting) is usually what the problem was.
>
> Michael D Novack
>
>
>
> On 1/14/2021 10:45 AM, Mahon Finbar wrote:
> > Sorry for the bother, the usual end of year issue
> >
> > I have an income report in the saved report configuration with an end
> > date of 1.09.2020.
> >
> > I need to change the end date to 31.12.2020.
> >
> > I thought I only needed to change the option, but it doesn't seem to
> > be working.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > TIA, Barry
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[GNC] Changing end date on a saved report config option

[Mahon Finbar]

Sorry for the bother, the usual end of year issue

I have an income report in the saved report configuration with an end 
date of 1.09.2020.


I need to change the end date to 31.12.2020.

I thought I only needed to change the option, but it doesn't seem to be 
working.


What am I doing wrong?

TIA, Barry





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Re: [GNC] Strange behaviour

[Mahon Finbar]

Thanks all, strange indeed. I don't recall it happening before. The 
salary amount varies by 1€centime each month, pity it is not more:-( 
so I need to change the last digit each month. Maybe I used the 'comma' 
procedure previously? Actually the crash happened before I tried to 
commit, it happened when I tried to backspace.


Roll on next build, and while I am here, enormous thanks to all the 
development team.


Barry

On 17/11/2020 07:18, Tony Vanson wrote:

Seems that the comma separator is the culprit here if it is left in when
committing the altered amount. In addition I find that if I use the
backspace key to try to alter a number before committing, GnuCash shuts
down immediately, however using the backspace to delete the comma separator
works fine.
Bit more digging to do.

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On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 10:47 AM  wrote:


Tony -- just curious -- this seems very similar to the thousand separator
issue of entries over $1,000 when you include the thousands separator
(comma).  If you enter an entry that includes the comma and go to change
the
entry, it seems GNUCASH crashes -- but not entering the comma the issue
does
not happen.  Would be interested if your behavior is happening on items
that
are less than $1,000 (i.e., or do not include the separator).

There is a reported issue with the separator issue that I think is already
addressed for the next build.

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Subject: Re: [GNC] Strange behaviour

Yes, same problem here on Windows 10 Home with Gnucash 4.2.
I used to just copy and paste a previous entry, alter the amount as
required, and then commit. However this now causes CNC to completely shut
down, but I find if I commit the wrong amount and then alter it, things are
fine.
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On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Mahon Finbar 

wrote:

Sorry, I think I posted this already in the wrong address.

Hi,

Just now I was making an entry in an account I use regularly, one of
my

bank accounts. and was entering a salary cheque which required an
alteration of one figure.

It worked fine, date, description, etc., until I tried to change the

digit on the figure. It put the cursor behind the digit but when I
tried to change it the blue circle appeared and gnucash closed,

completely.

I relaunched, having to do 'open anyway' at the lock question, and

opened the account, which was closed. The entry I was trying to make
was not there, although the previous entry was. I tried to enter the
salary entry, tried to change the digit and the same thing happened ,
blue circle, closed.

Any ideas?

It's probably https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797959.

Regards,
John Ralls

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[GNC] Strange behaviour

[Mahon Finbar]

Sorry, I think I posted this already in the wrong address.

Hi,

Just now I was making an entry in an account I use regularly, one of my 
bank accounts. and was entering a salary cheque which required an 
alteration of one figure.


It worked fine, date, description, etc., until I tried to change the 
digit on the figure. It put the cursor behind the digit but when I tried 
to change it the blue circle appeared and gnucash closed, completely.


I relaunched, having to do 'open anyway' at the lock question, and 
opened the account, which was closed. The entry I was trying to make was 
not there, although the previous entry was. I tried to enter the salary 
entry, tried to change the digit and the same thing happened , blue 
circle, closed.


Any ideas?

Barry

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Re: [GNC] Simple reporting help

[Mahon Finbar]

I am trying it, it looks like a great trick.

It defaulted to 2020 and I picked my own bank a/c, but when I tried to 
change the dates in the options I got nothing.


FWIW, Version 4.2 on Windows 10, Barry

On 27/10/2020 14:08, Christopher Lam wrote:

The experimental multicolumn reports have a "show report options" or
something in the general tab, which will assist troubleshooting.

On Tue, 27 Oct 2020, 8:26 pm Michelle,  wrote:


I did try. Had to get the flatpak version 4.2 as Mint is too far behind
that I couldn't easily "make" it, but it still gave nothing.

Michelle.

On Tue, 2020-10-27 at 09:00 +1100, Geoff wrote:

Wow, that's a much better solution, it shows sub-totals for
sub-accounts, and even handles financial years not just calendar
years.

Thanks for the tip Gal!

Michelle - it might be worth upgrading for this feature, see
attached
screenshot.

Geoff
=

On 27/10/2020 3:49 am, Gal wrote:

Another way to achieve what you're looking for is to select Reports
-->
Experimental --> Income Statement (Multicolumn)

Then select the relevant account in the Accounts Tab, and select
"Year" in
the Period duration dropdown list in the General tab.



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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.2 Released

[Mahon Finbar]

Thanks to the message from James I downloaded 4.2 for W10.

Maybe coincidentally, my Vivaldi browser crashed half way through the 
download, but it restarted after restarting Vivaldi.


All OK in the end and the load is MUCH faster.

Thanks to all concerned.

Barry

On 30/09/2020 20:57, Jamestk wrote:

Frank, its Linux Mint 19.1 Cinnamon, please see Adrien reply below for
solution.


Frank H. Ellenberger-3 wrote

Which OS/Distri, version?

Am 30.09.20 um 17:25 schrieb Jamestk:

Here we go, dollar sign as opposed to 'G'

The updates I checked were from system, i.e the periodic updates
triggered
by shield symbol in sys tray, it must have come down as an update during
this process.


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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.2 Released

[Mahon Finbar]

Hi,

Sorry to butt in, but is there an 'update' option on the 3.8 version?

Are Windows 10 users included in the 4.2 update? Most if not all of the 
messages are about Linux.


Barry

On 29/09/2020 20:36, Jamestk wrote:

David Cousens, thanks

I installed GNU Cash a while ago, perhaps over a year - this was via
Software Manager which still has the same version (3.2 I think, need to
check), this is a new icon altogether, not the usual pile of dollar bills
and coins.

The only updates installed are those from update manager, that said I do now
two versions of GNUCash

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Re: [GNC] help increasing size of font in GnuCash?

[Mahon Finbar]

I have done that, but on my Lenovo W10 1903  the 'magified' text is 
blurred.


I would like there to be a simple text size option under settings.

I needed, and very much appreciate, an accounting app which is not run 
by money grabbers (especially accountants :-). In GNU I found it, but, 
although I am a nerd, sort of, I don't really want to dive into the nuts 
and bolts. So, things like GTK are a step too far.


Thanks, Barry

On 16/08/2020 03:24, David H wrote:

nor,

Check out Settings >> Ease of Access >> Magnifier - you can use the Win Key
together with + or - to zoom in and out on Win 10.

Cheers David H.


On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 15:58, nor via gnucash-user 
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It is too complicated to modify gtk file for an accountant. I had posted
earlier on this subject as below,quote,At time register is to small to
view.
Now that ver 4 series is developed, asetting in a menu to change the fonts
will be of great help for the peoplewith poor eye sight. Standard Zoom
in/out with control key +or- does notwork either.Appreciate your
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Re: [GNC] Reimbursement in a credit card a/c

[Mahon Finbar]

Yep, on reading your message and on re-examination and some testing of 
various ways of entering it, and actually thinking out the situation 
:-), I got it more or less right.


Thank you so much for the entirely logical explanation, very helpful.

On 04/07/2020 05:42, Tommy Trussell wrote:



On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:36 AM Mahon Finbar <mailto:mahon.fin...@neuf.fr>> wrote:


I got reimbursed a sum of over €500 on my credit card account.

It seems to be causing some issues with reconciling the a/c.

I entered the amount as a 'credit card payment' The reimbursement
meant
that the a/c was in credit for quite a while :-) but is now back to
'normal' i.e. I pay for things and then pay at the end of the month,
always, i.e. I don't have a balance unpaid at that moment.

However, the a/c won't reconcile, even avoiding, as uncleared, the
current outstandings.

Am I doing something wrong?


Hi! I can think of a couple of possibilities. Have you been 
reconciling the credit card account every month, or was this the first 
time you tried?


If you have been reconciling it every month and this is the first time 
you've had a problem, I would suspect you entered the statement 
balance as a positive when it should have been a negative. (So in 
other words, most of the time when you get a statement, you owe 
something, let's say €240. But after the credit balance instead of 
-€260 -- negative two hundred sixty euros.)


Another thing I noticed is that you said "I got reimbursed a sum of 
over €500 on my credit card account."


When you got reimbursed, you do NOT enter that amount as if you wrote 
a check to the credit card company -- if you were reimbursed for an 
expenditure (either you returned an item to a store, or you were 
reimbursed by a third party for things you bought on your credit card) 
then you would enter that in the credit card register as a NEGATIVE 
expenditure. In the register it would appear as a positive number in 
the same COLUMN as your payments, but its other split account would 
offset whatever expenditure you are being reimbursed for.


So in your credit card register, if you purchase an appliance, the 
original transaction might look like:


Store A    Expenses:Household:Appliances  [cr] €500

Then you return the appliance to store A for a full refund:

Store A   Expenses:Household:Appliances [dr] €500

The first transaction increases your credit card liability and the 
second transaction reduces the credit card liability (in this case, as 
you described it, below zero because in between the purchase and the 
return you paid off your credit card bill). SO the next time you 
reconcile your statement you would need to enter a NEGATIVE number in 
the starting balance.


If you had been reimbursed using a different form of payment (such as 
a check or bank draft) then you would have entered it similarly into 
THAT bank account, as a negative expenditure with the positive part of 
the money going into the bank account.


If you need some more guidance, have a look at the GnuCash 
documentation, especially section 2.9 of Chapter 2.


https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_txns.html

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