Re: [hlds] Optional TF2 update released

[Rudy Bleeker]

>From the client patch notes from October 12, 2015:

- Running in textmode now places the client in insecure mode

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 2:50 AM, HD  wrote:
> Anyone else having issues now using a client into their servers using
> -textmode for launch options? I log in an account this way every so often to
> "listen" in the server while reading chat but for some reason now I get the
> "You are in insecure mode. You must restart before you can connect to secure
> servers.".
>
> I've not changed nothing - not a single thing and it just started after last
> nights update came out. I've reinstalled TF2 on that computer but nothing
> has changed.
> I'm convinced something got messed up from this update as I tried it on
> another computer and it did the exact same thing.
>
> Anyone able to explain this?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 5:52 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds] Optional TF2 update released
>
> We've released an optional update for TF2 that updates the Invasion
> Community Update Coin to also count assists. This is an optional dedicated
> server update and is not required unless you are running any of the Invasion
> maps and would like to support this new feature.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Eric
>
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Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Rudy Bleeker]

They must be targetting specific list members in that case because
I've never received an email from that address. That is to say, the
query

in:all from:amy2...@sefernsa.com

returned nothing for me in Gmail.


On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:00 PM, N-Gon ngongamedes...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey, while we're at it.
 Can we remove amy2...@sefernsa.com from the mailing list?
 As gudlookin' as that chicks pics are getting these spam emails is really
 annoying

 On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Ross Bemrose rbemr...@gmail.com wrote:

 As long as we're talking about bugs and stuff, the Sandman and Wrap
 Assassin can steal the ball from a distance.


 On 8/18/2015 9:07 PM, N-Gon wrote:

 You can also walk right into enemy spawns it seems...

 On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 8:48 PM, N-Gon ngongamedes...@gmail.com wrote:

 #DEFLATEGATE

 On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Peter Jerde peter-h...@jerde.net
 wrote:

 So… the short-circuit “pops” or removes the Jack (ball) in
 pass_warehouse.

 Anybody know off-hand the easiest way to disable short circuit? Perhaps
 a sourcemod plugin?

  - Peter
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] SteamCMD HTTP Remote Control

[Rudy Bleeker]

Thanks for the clarification Alfred :-)

On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Alfred Reynolds
alf...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 Enabling the remote control API was not intended for the steamcmd tool, we 
 will have an update soon that disables it. The web service requires strong 
 authentication via Steam for any interaction so it shouldn't be an issue 
 beyond the port it binds while steamcmd is running. You can use the command 
 line option  -remotecontrolport Port in the meantime to force a different 
 port if it is interfering with your server operations.

 - Alfred

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Molina
 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 4:56 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Win32 
 server mailing list
 Subject: [hlds_linux] SteamCMD HTTP Remote Control

 Dear Valve.

 Explain why SteamCMD has started a remote control daemon on my computer 
 during a SteamCMD update.



 Steam Console Client (c) Valve Corporation
 -- type 'quit' to exit --
 Loading Steam3...[HTTP Remote Control] Wrote private key to 
 remoteui/certs/https.key
 [HTTP Remote Control] Wrote certificate to remoteui/certs/https.pem
 [HTTP Remote Control] HTTP server listening on port 27037.
 OK.



 Relavant:

 http://steamdb.info/blog/37/

 http://steamdb.info/blog/30/

 http://steamdb.info/blog/31/



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Re: [hlds] Can we have a Quickplay Status report, please? 2

[Rudy Bleeker]

Team Fortress 2 is now almost 7 years old. That means it's player base
has also aged. Those who played it often in high school/college when
they had plenty of spare time might have graduated, gotten jobs and
something called a life and simply gotten too busy to play TF2 on a
regular basis. This, together with the release of new FPS games like
Interstellar Marines, and plenty of MOBA games to virtually kill
others in a competitive or casual manner (including Valve's very own
Dota 2), might account for the slow but steady decline of concurrent
TF2 players. It's still having it's occasional ups, but I think we'll
see a downward trend on the whole.

This is just a hypothesis of course, but I'm speaking from the
experience of myself and my friends, who used to play TF2 a lot but
don't anymore, as much fun as it used to be. When we have time to play
a game in the evenings it's usually Dota 2 nowadays.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Robert Paulson thepauls...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are you fking serious? The kind of players that play FPS like TF2 have very
 little overlap with mmos. If you have actually watched player counts like I
 do, you would know this. The release of Mists of Pandaria and Guild Wars 2
 pretty much had 0 impact on the TF2 player count.

 The TF2 collapse has been happening since February and Wildstar just
 released 2 days ago...


 On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Lyrai lyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 There's Wildstar, which just came out, and is an MMO. Final Fantasy 14 is
 apparently doing very well, and just had a minor content patch. Both of
 those are things I'd blame for loss of player count, before this Chicken
 Little screaming.


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Re: [hlds] Mandatory Nuclear Dawn update released

[Rudy Bleeker]

Thanks for this Nicholas, I hope that pulling ND out of beta for Linux
and the other fixes will lure some new players to this great game, so
we can actually play some fun matches again online.

On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Nicholas Hastings
psycho...@alliedmods.net wrote:
 A mandatory update for Nuclear Dawn has been released.

 For anyone still running servers, you will need to update in order for
 clients to still be able to connect. This is the final version of the update
 that has been on the linuxbeta branch for the past few months.

 As a reminder, ND Dedicated Server's app id is 111710.

 The full changelog is below.

 General:
 - Added client support for Linux.
 - Fixed Russian and Czech Languages not being selectable in Steam game
 properties.
 - Fixed minimap placement issues that would sometimes occur after resolution
 change.
 - Fixed issue where commander could get stuck on a ladder in RTS view.
 - Fixed sonic turret fire range being slightly shorter than lock-on range.
 - Whitelisted r_decals client convar by community request.
 - Improved overall stability.

 Community-created Content:
 - Updated Workshop map instructions link.
 - Added missing Final Hammer compile configuration.
 - Fixed typo in Hammer fgd file causing Empire wall and barrier issues.
 - Fixed client crash when subscribed to Workshop file that no longer exists
 or has been made private.
 - Fixed server crashes that could occur when attempting to sync Workshop
 maps when Steam was down or syncing current map.
 - Fixed uploading maps of size  100mb to Workshop.
 - Increased individual user Workshop storage quota to 1gb.
 - Greatly improved client subscribed Workshop map sync time on game launch.
 - HTTPS map downloads with self-signed certificates now work.
 - Clients now automatically download game server Workshop-synced maps
 directly from Workshop on connect.
 - Map support files (scripts, loading image, etc.) now get
 automaticallybspzipped into the map before upload if not already in map.

 --
 Nicholas Hastings


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Re: [hlds] Steam GameServer Account Logging Question

[Rudy Bleeker]

Unfortunately I'm already using +exec on the command line for
something else. Is it still true that you can only use one +exec
command?


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Ross Bemrose rbemr...@gmail.com wrote:
 server.cfg is too late.  I found that out by empirical testing.

 However, either putting it in autoexec.cfg or in a file you +exec on the
 command line seems to work.


 On 2/26/2014 11:16 AM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:

 Yes, I am pretty sure that server.cfg is too late.  I believe that
 autoexec.cfg is early enough and works.  (Right?  Others on this mailing
 list almost certainly know better than me.)

 I think you could also use something like +exec credentials.cfg.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
 Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:12 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Steam GameServer Account Logging Question

 Just because people are having issues, and to avoid further problems,
 could you elaborate where exactly you would put those? Some of us prefer
 autoexec.cfg but should they be in command line? If not, where then?
 Server.cfg seems too late.

 -ics

 Fletcher Dunn kirjoitti:

 Sorry, those messages are a bit confusing.  I’m assuming this is a TF
 game server, in which case the “successfully logged in” messages and
 the FAQ link refer to the TF gameserver account.  It’s totally
 separate to the Steam gameserver account, and totally unrelated.
 Perhaps you aren’t specifying the login credentials early enough in
 the boot process?

 *From:*hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *pilger
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:10 AM
 *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam GameServer Account Logging Question

 Changed the /sv_setsteamaccount/ to the autoexec file and it worked
 great.

 Someone should check if the failure message is being sent the way it
 was supposed to.

 Thanks Rudy!



 _pilger

 On 26 February 2014 12:00, pilger pilger...@gmail.com
 mailto:pilger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Guess he was right then. It can't be on the /server.cfg/

 Strangely enough, I'm getting two messages. First one that goes:

 Assigned anonymous gameserver Steam ID [A-1:2176588802
 tel:2176588802(4095)].

 And then two more that says:

 Successfully logged into gameserver account **.

 For more information about gameserver accounts, visit
 https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513.
 L 02/26/2014 - 09:54:54: Successfully logged into gameserver account
 **.
 For more information about gameserver accounts, visit
 https://support.steampowered.com

 /kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513.

 Still, when I send the /status/ command, I get a:

 steamid : [A-1:2176588802 tel:2176588802(4095)] (90089582615075842)

 So the message saying the account login is failing isn't quite working
 for me. That's what I was getting confused about. Isn't quite as clear
 as one would imagine.

 I'll go set it on the right place and then com back to tell the results.


 Thanks, Rudy!



 _pilger

 On 26 February 2014 11:41, Rudy Bleeker rblee...@gmail.com
 mailto:rblee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Pilger,

 as far as I know sv_setsteamaccount should be set before a map is
 loaded. That means you can either put it in the autoexec.cfg, a file
 that is called with +exec from the command line or on the commandline
 itself. Anywhere else, for example the file that you use as the
 +servercfgfile, is too late and won't work.

 The message you see in your log is quite clear isn't it? Logging in
 was succesfull, so you can safely assume you did it right. If it
 didn't work, for example when sv_setsteamaccount is called too late,
 you'll get the following error message:

 Warning: Game server already logged into steam.  You need to use the
 sv_setsteamaccount command earlier.

 You can verify if the server is correctly logged in by typing status
 in the console and check the steamid line. If the steamid displayed
 there starts with A-1 it is an anonymous steam ID which means the
 server isn't logged in with it's proper steam ID. Those start with a G
 I believe.


 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM, pilger pilger...@gmail.com
 mailto:pilger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey guys,


 I've been talking to a friend about the new steam gameserver account

 logging

 system and he claims that the parameter sv_setsteamaccount should go

 on the

 command line, while I think it can go on the server.cfg or any other

 file

 that's executed the first time the server runs.

 With the server.cfg method, I'm getting the following messages on my

 log:

 Successfully logged into gameserver account **.
 L 02/26/2014 - 07:36:12: Successfully logged into gameserver
 account **.


 Does that mean it's all good!? Which one is the correct way?


 Thanks in advance,

 _pilger

Re: [hlds] Steam GameServer Account Logging Question

[Rudy Bleeker]

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Asher Baker asher...@gmail.com wrote:
 That has never been true afaik, exec to your heart's content.

I've tried, but every time I do that the second config file that I
exec isn't actually executed.
I should note that I'm running my servers on Linux, so there might be
a difference between the srcds_run bash-script and whatever you guys
have on Windows.


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Re: [hlds] Steam GameServer Account Logging Question

[Rudy Bleeker]

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Dondon Tudtud don...@applei.ph wrote:
 You said you're already using +exec for something else, can't you just put
 the login commands on that cfg file instead? Or do you use that cfg file for
 more than one server?

Indeed, my homebrew startup script exec's a config file depending on
what kind of server I want to start (ctf, payload, mvm, etc.) so it
could theoretically be used by multiple instances.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 second config file that I exec isn't actually executed.
 Even if that's true, you can have a server specific config file that
 calls down to the template :P not the other way around.

I'm not sure what you mean by this Kyle.


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_announce] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Rudy Bleeker]

sv_pure works fine if you start your server with +sv_pure 1 on the
command line. From there you can switch to sv_pure 0 or sv_pure 2 at
any time. However if you don't start with +sv_pure 1 on the command
line you're stuck with a server running sv_pure 0. So correct me if
I'm wrong but isn't this just a simple case of changing the default?

On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:49 PM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any news on fixing sv_pure ?


 2014-02-08 13:45 GMT+01:00 ics i...@ics-base.net:

 If you run linux, it's a problem known. Set -steamport x to command
 line to fix it for now. This was mentioned by Fletcher earlier. But if you
 are running windows, i have no idea.

 -ics

 davidaap1...@gmail.com kirjoitti:

 My Servers are losing connections to steam randomly since the last
 update, and not regaining them until i reboot them..

 anyone else having the same problem?

 -- Original Message --
 From: Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 (hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com) hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com;
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 Sent: 7-2-2014 19:29:58
 Subject: [hlds_announce] Mandatory TF2 update released

 We've released a mandatory TF2 update. The notes for the update are
 below. The new version is 2108330.

 -Eric

 --

 Weapon Updates
 - The Shortstop
  - Reduced extra knockback penalty from 80% to 40%
 - The Short Circuit
  - Added Penalty - No longer gain metal from dispensers when active
 - The Cleaner's Carbine
  - Changed OnKill effect from gain crits for 3 seconds to gain
 mini-crits for 8 seconds
 - Natascha
  - Added Positive Attribute +50% extra ammo
 - The Reserve Shooter
  - Increased clip size from 3 to 4
  - Time to mini-crit airborne targets changed from 3 to 5
 - The Beggar's Bazooka
  - Changed penalty No primary ammo from dispensers to no primary
 ammo from dispensers when active
 - The Quick Fix
  - Fixed the Medic not gaining the proper speed boost when a Demoman
 uses the Chargin' Targe or Splendid Screen

 Weapon Fixes
 - Fixed deflected projectiles not affecting Strange and Killstreak
 counts
 - Fixed the Mini-Sentry range-sphere not accurately displaying the range
 for the sentry when it is being placed
 - Fixed the Spy's revolver using the incorrect reload sound
 - Fixed third-person Medi Gun beams appearing jittery
 - Fixed the Heavy not playing his response rules lines after eating a
 Sandvich, Buffalo Steak Sandvich, etc.
 - Fixed The Half-Zatoichi using the wrong animations for the Loadout
 screen and the HUD 3D Character

 Community Updates
 - Added the Strongbox Key to the Mann Co. Store
 - Added 43 community-contributed items to the Strongbox Crate
 - Added the Tumblr Vs Reddit Participation Medal

 Mann vs. Machine
 - Added Killstreak Fabricators for the following weapons to the Two
 Cities Tour reward list:
  - The Lugermorph, The Big Kill, The Iron Curtain, The Frying Pan,
 The Black Rose, The AWPer Hand, Chargin' Targe, Splendid Screen, and The
 Mantreads
 - Fixed an exploit that allowed players to purchase/sell the Canteen
 Specialist upgrade to get more money than they originally spent
 - Fixed an exploit where players could stand on a robot's head to block
 their movement for an easy kill
 - Fixed players not being able to earn the Frags to Riches achievement
 if there is money in the world when the mission is completed
 - Fixed a bug that caused players to not receive an Upgrade Refund
 Credit when they should have
 - Fixed the UI not updating properly if an Upgrade Refund Credit is
 earned after the wave has ended

 Quickplay
 - Added advanced options page, which allows you to search for a few
 commonly-requested non-vanilla options: 32-player servers, nocrits, and
 instant/modified respawn times
 - Added Show Servers button to quickplay. This will run the normal
 quickplay search, but instead of joining the best server, it will present
 a list of about 20 servers and let you pick.

 Other Changes
 - Improved loading of item information panels to prevent hitches when
 cycling through backpack pages.
  - Use the convar tf_time_loading_item_panels to control how much
 time is spent per frame loading item panel data.
 - Fixed Australium items not using the correct images in the Steam
 Community Market
 - Added missing payload audio for the Medic, Soldier, Demoman, and Spy
 - Added the server command sv_setsteamaccount for logging in with a
 persistent game server account using a login token. Login tokens may be
 acquired via the IGameServersService/CreateAccount web API. Using a login
 token is not required to run a game server, but allows Steam users to
 continue to access your game server from their favorites list if your game
 server 

Re: [hlds] [hlds_announce] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Rudy Bleeker]

No, the default steamport is 26901 which is different from the
hostport default of 27015. You might experience problems if you set
them to the same port, I've never tried.

On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Dill Bates dillbat...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm assuming the x is the same port I set for hostport?


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:45 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 If you run linux, it's a problem known. Set -steamport x to command line 
 to fix it for now. This was mentioned by Fletcher earlier. But if you are 
 running windows, i have no idea.

 -ics

 davidaap1...@gmail.com kirjoitti:
 My Servers are losing connections to steam randomly since the last update, 
 and not regaining them until i reboot them..

 anyone else having the same problem?

 -- Original Message --
 From: Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 (hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com) hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; 
 Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
 (hlds@list.valvesoftware.com) hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; 
 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com' 
 (hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com) 
 hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: 7-2-2014 19:29:58
 Subject: [hlds_announce] Mandatory TF2 update released

 We've released a mandatory TF2 update. The notes for the update are below. 
 The new version is 2108330.

 -Eric

 --

 Weapon Updates
 - The Shortstop
 - Reduced extra knockback penalty from 80% to 40%
 - The Short Circuit
 - Added Penalty - No longer gain metal from dispensers when active
 - The Cleaner's Carbine
 - Changed OnKill effect from gain crits for 3 seconds to gain 
 mini-crits for 8 seconds
 - Natascha
 - Added Positive Attribute +50% extra ammo
 - The Reserve Shooter
 - Increased clip size from 3 to 4
 - Time to mini-crit airborne targets changed from 3 to 5
 - The Beggar's Bazooka
 - Changed penalty No primary ammo from dispensers to no primary ammo 
 from dispensers when active
 - The Quick Fix
 - Fixed the Medic not gaining the proper speed boost when a Demoman 
 uses the Chargin' Targe or Splendid Screen

 Weapon Fixes
 - Fixed deflected projectiles not affecting Strange and Killstreak counts
 - Fixed the Mini-Sentry range-sphere not accurately displaying the range 
 for the sentry when it is being placed
 - Fixed the Spy's revolver using the incorrect reload sound
 - Fixed third-person Medi Gun beams appearing jittery
 - Fixed the Heavy not playing his response rules lines after eating a 
 Sandvich, Buffalo Steak Sandvich, etc.
 - Fixed The Half-Zatoichi using the wrong animations for the Loadout 
 screen and the HUD 3D Character

 Community Updates
 - Added the Strongbox Key to the Mann Co. Store
 - Added 43 community-contributed items to the Strongbox Crate
 - Added the Tumblr Vs Reddit Participation Medal

 Mann vs. Machine
 - Added Killstreak Fabricators for the following weapons to the Two Cities 
 Tour reward list:
 - The Lugermorph, The Big Kill, The Iron Curtain, The Frying Pan, The 
 Black Rose, The AWPer Hand, Chargin' Targe, Splendid Screen, and The 
 Mantreads
 - Fixed an exploit that allowed players to purchase/sell the Canteen 
 Specialist upgrade to get more money than they originally spent
 - Fixed an exploit where players could stand on a robot's head to block 
 their movement for an easy kill
 - Fixed players not being able to earn the Frags to Riches achievement if 
 there is money in the world when the mission is completed
 - Fixed a bug that caused players to not receive an Upgrade Refund Credit 
 when they should have
 - Fixed the UI not updating properly if an Upgrade Refund Credit is earned 
 after the wave has ended

 Quickplay
 - Added advanced options page, which allows you to search for a few 
 commonly-requested non-vanilla options: 32-player servers, nocrits, and 
 instant/modified respawn times
 - Added Show Servers button to quickplay. This will run the normal 
 quickplay search, but instead of joining the best server, it will 
 present a list of about 20 servers and let you pick.

 Other Changes
 - Improved loading of item information panels to prevent hitches when 
 cycling through backpack pages.
 - Use the convar tf_time_loading_item_panels to control how much time 
 is spent per frame loading item panel data.
 - Fixed Australium items not using the correct images in the Steam 
 Community Market
 - Added missing payload audio for the Medic, Soldier, Demoman, and Spy
 - Added the server command sv_setsteamaccount for logging in with a 
 persistent game server account using a login token. Login tokens may be 
 acquired via the IGameServersService/CreateAccount web API. Using a login 
 token is not required to run a game server, but allows Steam users to 
 continue to access your game server from their favorites list if your game 
 server changes IP in the future.
 - Added the game server's SteamID to the output of the 

Re: [hlds] TF2 Service Memory Leaks on Windows 2008

[Rudy Bleeker]

If you use sv_shutdown as the restart command it'll only restart the
server when it's empty or after a few hourse (5 or 6). Usually a
server empties out before the timeout is reached.

On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Mike Vail supp...@boomgaming.net wrote:
 Thanks to the guys who responded to this. I was hoping to avoid the nightly
 restarts because many of the servers I’m having the trouble with remain full
 24/7 and I hate kicking the players off with a restart. I guess that’s the
 only thing I can do right now for these. I’ll look into an auto-restart
 script for the others like my MvMs so they restart when they empty.



 Thanks again and have a good weekend….

 Mike



 From: Ryan Stecker [mailto:voidedwea...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:18 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Service Memory Leaks on Windows 2008



 Running on windows here, our instances start at around 400MB and will just
 climb and climb to upwards of 2GB. We do nightly restarts to deal with the
 usage.



 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 2:05 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 They run on Linux and on Linux, i have 0,8-1,5GB of memory use for TF2
 instance, no more. So no leaking.

 -ics

 Dominik Friedrichs kirjoitti:



 I can confirm that the TF2 srcds is leaking all over the place.
 A year ago it was still manageable but today theres no other solution than
 to restart at least once a day. Wonder if/how Valve deals with this on their
 stock servers.


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Re: [hlds] FYI tf2 added another vpk file

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On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Doctor McKay mc...@doctormckay.com wrote:
 There's actually 11, as it starts numbering at 0. :)

And if you count tf2_misc_dir.vpk, there are 12 ;-)

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Re: [hlds] plr_hightower_event - no free edicts

[Rudy Bleeker]

Surely you mean 24 :-)

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Eli Witt eliw...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's almost as if the game were designed to only have 28 players


 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Andreas Grimm l...@gmx.net wrote:

 Dear Valve,



 to run a 32 player slots plr_hightower_event server is dangerous ...



 L 10/30/2013 - 09:55:53: World triggered Mini_Round_Win (winner Red)
 (round plr_round_C)

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:55:53: World triggered Mini_Round_Length (seconds
 187.32)

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:55:53: World triggered Round_Win (winner Red)

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:55:53: Team Red current score 5 with 17 players

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:55:53: Team Blue current score 4 with 16 players

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: World triggered Round_Start

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: World triggered Round_Setup_Begin

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: World triggered Mini_Round_Selected (round
 plr_round_C)

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: World triggered Mini_Round_Start

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: Warning: free edicts below threshold. 8 free
 edicts remaining.

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: Warning: free edicts below threshold. 7 free
 edicts remaining.

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: Warning: free edicts below threshold. 6 free
 edicts remaining.

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: Warning: free edicts below threshold. 5 free
 edicts remaining.

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: Warning: free edicts below threshold. 4 free
 edicts remaining.

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: Warning: free edicts below threshold. 3 free
 edicts remaining.

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: Warning: free edicts below threshold. 2 free
 edicts remaining.

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: Warning: free edicts below threshold. 1 free
 edict remaining.

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: Warning: free edicts below threshold. 0 free
 edicts remaining.

 L 10/30/2013 - 09:56:01: Engine error: ED_Alloc: no free edicts



 Maybe it's possible to decrease the entity count on that map a little bit?



 - Andreas


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] tf2 halloween event 2013 ETA ?

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The update is live now, but no announcement on the mailing list. I
still have a question though: are the eventmix and event247 tags
still required this year to receive quickplay traffic on servers
running the Halloween event maps?

Any other information about the event from a Valve employee would also
be appreciated.

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Todd Pettit pettit.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 Something is coming, everybody. Not right now coming...

 - Original Message -
 From: Doctor McKay mc...@doctormckay.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 11:26:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] tf2 halloween event 2013 ETA ?

 http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=11727


 Dr. McKay
 www.doctormckay.com


 On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Carl aidsf...@gmail.com wrote:

 IF it happens.  If Valve had a mediocre idea for 2013, would you rather
 them release it or shelve it?


 On 10/28/2013 1:54 PM, wickedplayer494 wrote:

 It'll happen when it happens.

 On 10/28/2013 3:19 PM, louloubizou wrote:

 an ETA ? :)
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Re: [hlds] Hide server from certain IP's?

[Rudy Bleeker]

As Jason said, just blocking his IP isn't good enough since the attack
comes from many other IP's. And since the server queries go through
Valve's master servers, I don't think what Jason wants to accomplish
is possible.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Doctor McKay mc...@doctormckay.com wrote:
 Use iptables or a similar firewall to drop all traffic from his IP.


 Dr. McKay
 www.doctormckay.com


 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Jason Tango jtrun...@outlook.com wrote:

 Hello,

 We've had several DDOS attacks in the past several weeks. We now know the
 IP address of the person who is initiating the attacks (he has admitted as
 much). Unfortunately, he is using some kind of reflection attack that comes
 from hundreds of different IP addresses, so just blocking his IP won't do us
 much good.

 My question is - is there some way to prevent our server from even
 appearing in the server browser for his IP address?

 It sure would be wonderful for server operators to be able to blacklist
 certain IPs from even being able to see our servers in the server browser
 ;-)

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Re: [hlds] Recurring player clip issue on Windows TF2 servers?

[Rudy Bleeker]

I have actually encountered this myself as a player, although it might
be a slightly different issue. I've had it happen a few times on my
own server, which runs on Linux (hence the crosspost) and isn't
symlinked or runs any mods. It's a single installation, completely
vanilla. I haven't made an effort to do a bugreport through the game
client yet.

The symptoms I'm experiencing are that when I spawn I'm clipping
through the floor of the map, resulting in a view as if I've sunken
through the ground to the waist. I can play normally, only the vision
is screwed up. Other players don't notice anything unusual about my
avatar. The issue resolves itself when I get killed and respawn, or
sometimes after I've been alive for a long time. I couldn't say on
which maps it has occured, but at least on pl_goldrush.

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Peter Jerde peter-h...@jerde.net wrote:
 This happened to us when the number of VPK files constituting TF2 changed 
 back on August 29th (or thereabouts).

 We share one set of VPK files among multiple server instances using symlinks 
 (windows mklink), but when that update added tf2_misc_009.vpk, our cloned 
 servers each lacked a symlink to that file, since it hadn't existed before.

 This resulted in no problems at all on some maps (ctf_turbine) but caused the 
 bizarre players-falling-through-solid-objects problem on mvm_coaltown and 
 certain payload maps.

 It could be something completely different, but I figured those exact 
 symptoms were too similar to what we'd experienced, that I figured I'd throw 
 this out there. Double-check that your servers have all the files 
 tf2_misc_000 through tf2_misc_009.

 For giggles, here are the sizes, in bytes, of the vpk files we have currently 
 in our /tf folder:

 106302753   tf2_misc_000.vpk
 106575133   tf2_misc_001.vpk
 106642649   tf2_misc_002.vpk
 103888545   tf2_misc_003.vpk
 106077677   tf2_misc_004.vpk
 108387643   tf2_misc_005.vpk
 105606193   tf2_misc_006.vpk
 105574190   tf2_misc_007.vpk
 105401440   tf2_misc_008.vpk
 105299483   tf2_misc_009.vpk
 1477522 tf2_misc_dir.vpk
 87701   tf2_sound_misc_dir.vpk
 382253  tf2_sound_vo_english_dir.vpk
 537892  tf2_textures_dir.vpk

 Cheers,

  - Peter

 On Sep 23, 2013, at 22:50 PM, Justin Bounds jstn7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I've been receiving reports from players and admins in my community 
 concerning a server issue where trains, rocks, stairs, etc. basically become 
 non-solid objects and players can walk or fall through them, obviously 
 disrupting gameplay to some extent. I haven't had time to experience this 
 myself, but supposedly the problem is temporarily corrected by restarting 
 the server. This keeps occurring on my main public TF2 server and even 
 happens on competitive servers as well (only basic SM/MM:S functionality is 
 present), and has been doing so for a few weeks. Is anyone else experiencing 
 this issue, or is it just me? I figured I would ask/discuss this here first 
 before attempting to email any probably busy Valve employees. The host 
 server is running Windows Server 2008 R2, no idea how up to date it is since 
 it's a virtual dedicated server managed by NFO. Any ideas?

 -Justin
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Re: [hlds] Recurring player clip issue on Windows TF2 servers?

[Rudy Bleeker]

In this case (rocket) jumping didn't help, neither did running up a slope.

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Valentin G. nextra...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's a bug that has been around in GoldSrc aswell. Your origin needs to
 change height for the view to fix itself. So jumping or running up a slope
 is enough in most cases.


 On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Rudy Bleeker rblee...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have actually encountered this myself as a player, although it might
 be a slightly different issue. I've had it happen a few times on my
 own server, which runs on Linux (hence the crosspost) and isn't
 symlinked or runs any mods. It's a single installation, completely
 vanilla. I haven't made an effort to do a bugreport through the game
 client yet.

 The symptoms I'm experiencing are that when I spawn I'm clipping
 through the floor of the map, resulting in a view as if I've sunken
 through the ground to the waist. I can play normally, only the vision
 is screwed up. Other players don't notice anything unusual about my
 avatar. The issue resolves itself when I get killed and respawn, or
 sometimes after I've been alive for a long time. I couldn't say on
 which maps it has occured, but at least on pl_goldrush.

 On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Peter Jerde peter-h...@jerde.net wrote:
  This happened to us when the number of VPK files constituting TF2
  changed back on August 29th (or thereabouts).
 
  We share one set of VPK files among multiple server instances using
  symlinks (windows mklink), but when that update added tf2_misc_009.vpk, our
  cloned servers each lacked a symlink to that file, since it hadn't 
  existed
  before.
 
  This resulted in no problems at all on some maps (ctf_turbine) but
  caused the bizarre players-falling-through-solid-objects problem on
  mvm_coaltown and certain payload maps.
 
  It could be something completely different, but I figured those exact
  symptoms were too similar to what we'd experienced, that I figured I'd 
  throw
  this out there. Double-check that your servers have all the files
  tf2_misc_000 through tf2_misc_009.
 
  For giggles, here are the sizes, in bytes, of the vpk files we have
  currently in our /tf folder:
 
  106302753   tf2_misc_000.vpk
  106575133   tf2_misc_001.vpk
  106642649   tf2_misc_002.vpk
  103888545   tf2_misc_003.vpk
  106077677   tf2_misc_004.vpk
  108387643   tf2_misc_005.vpk
  105606193   tf2_misc_006.vpk
  105574190   tf2_misc_007.vpk
  105401440   tf2_misc_008.vpk
  105299483   tf2_misc_009.vpk
  1477522 tf2_misc_dir.vpk
  87701   tf2_sound_misc_dir.vpk
  382253  tf2_sound_vo_english_dir.vpk
  537892  tf2_textures_dir.vpk
 
  Cheers,
 
   - Peter
 
  On Sep 23, 2013, at 22:50 PM, Justin Bounds jstn7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I've been receiving reports from players and admins in my community
  concerning a server issue where trains, rocks, stairs, etc. basically 
  become
  non-solid objects and players can walk or fall through them, obviously
  disrupting gameplay to some extent. I haven't had time to experience this
  myself, but supposedly the problem is temporarily corrected by restarting
  the server. This keeps occurring on my main public TF2 server and even
  happens on competitive servers as well (only basic SM/MM:S functionality 
  is
  present), and has been doing so for a few weeks. Is anyone else 
  experiencing
  this issue, or is it just me? I figured I would ask/discuss this here 
  first
  before attempting to email any probably busy Valve employees. The host
  server is running Windows Server 2008 R2, no idea how up to date it is 
  since
  it's a virtual dedicated server managed by NFO. Any ideas?
 
  -Justin
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Re: [hlds] Up Server

[Rudy Bleeker]

Hi Reinaldo,

all HL 1 server files in the hldsupdatetool are out of date. They
should now be downloaded though the new SteamPipe tool, also known as
steamcmd.
See https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD for more information.

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Reinaldo Matias rc.mat...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am Brazilian and I have a bad english, I'm sorry but we will try. :)

 I'm trying to host a server HL 1, without modification, only one server pure
 since I found online are full of mods and unethical players in game. Just
 trying to put the server as suggested by hldsupdatetool this link
 https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6758-tcmf-2234 I can
 not, I return the server is out of date. I try to update but not return any
 updates. I create steam by itself and even can not connect to the server,
 but it does not appear in the list online and also the island also is
 stating that I have a server out of date.

 Can anyone help me?

 Ty.

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Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Rudy Bleeker]

I can confirm this. The 3 stock replay files replay.cfg, replay_ftp.cfg and
replay_local_http.cfg get deleted during updating. However a new
replay_example.cfg is downloaded.


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:50 PM, E. Olsen ceo.eol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also - you guys are still overwriting (actually, deleting) the replay.cfg
 file.


 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:47 PM, E. Olsen ceo.eol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does this fix the Taunt exploit that is currently crashing servers, or do
 we still need to use a plugin to block it?


 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.comwrote:

 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
 below. The new version is 1783578.

 -Eric

 --

 Team Fortress 2
 - Added new Adult Swim items to the Mann Co. Store
- The Breather Bag, The Weather Master, and The Bacteria Blocker
 - Added ETF2L Highlander Season 4 and ETF2L 6v6 Season 14 tournament
 medals
 - Fixed mat_viewportupscale using an error material for clients using
 DirectX8
 - Fixed config_arena.cfg being replaced by the default version when
 dedicated servers update
 - Fixed the Soldier's grenades being hidden when equipping the Full
 Metal Drill Hat and the Soldier's Sparkplug
 - Fixed a missing LOD on the dispenser
 - Updated the -insert_search_path delimiter to be a comma instead of a
 semi-colon
 - Updated the equip region on the Practitioner's Processing Mask to
 match the Physician's Procedure Mask
 - Updated The Conscientious Objector and The Bat Outta Hell so they can
 be crafted and can be used to craft other items






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Re: [hlds] ETA on the fix for hammer?

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I think you can trust Valve to fix the tools they themselves use to
get stuff done. Just show some patience people.

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:15 PM, scott biszmaier sc...@aol.jp wrote:
 i second this request. ive personally heard a couple different rumors so if
 someone
 knew the answer to this id love to know.


 
 scott biszmaier


 -Original Message-
 From: The Mighty Gerbil themightyger...@agapegraphics.com
 To: hlds hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 10:49 pm
 Subject: [hlds] ETA on the fix for hammer?

 Hi I tried the mapping mailing list first but didn't get a response so I
 was wondered if you guys know. Is if there an ETA on the fix for hammer
 and the SDK tools after Steampipe broke them? I just want to know so I
 can decide if I should go through
 the trouble of hunting for a workaround which may or may not exist or
 just wait a few days for the official fix. Thank you.

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Re: [hlds] MvM Mission Cycle Clarification

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With the steampipe update for Team Fortress 2 just around the corner,
I would like to ask where our custom MvM mission cycle files should be
located in the new directory tree. I can't find the default
tf_mvm_missioncycle.res anymore which I hoped to use as a reference, I
assume it's been packed in one of the VPK files. Since the mapcycle
and motd files have been moved in this update, I was wondering if the
same was the case for our custom MvM mission cycle files.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mike Lee mi...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 First we have a Con Command that will let you specify your own mission cycle
 file tf_mvm_missioncyclefile myfile.res

 where the default .res file is tf_mvm_missioncycle.res that is located in
 the tf directory.

 You can use this con command to set custom missioncycle files for each
 server instance.



 For how a mission cycle file works



 Example contents of missioncycle.res file

 -



 tf_mvm_missioncycle.res

 {

 categories 2



 1

 {

 count 3



 1

 {

 map mvm_decoy

 popfile mvm_decoy

 }

 2

 {

 map mvm_coaltown

 popfile mvm_coaltown

 }

 3

 {

 map mvm_mannworks

 popfile mvm_mannworks

 }

 }



 2

 {

 count 3



 1

 {

 map mvm_decoy

 popfile
 mvm_decoy_expert1

 }

 2

 {

 map mvm_coaltown

 popfile
 mvm_coaltown_expert1

 }

 3

 {

 map mvm_mannworks

 popfile
 mvm_mannworks_expert1

 }

 }

 }



 -

 format of the file:

 file name - Name of the res file

 {

 categories Number - Number of Categories, by default
 this corresponds to the number of difficulties

 Category Index - Numerical Index of this category,
 numbered in order starting at 1

 {

 Mission Count Number - Number of
 missions in this category

 Mission Index - Numerical Index of this
 mission, numbered in order starting at 1

 {

 map mapname - Name of
 the mvm map without the extension

 popfile popfilename -
 Name of the popfile without the extension

 }

 }

 }



 When a mission is completed the game looks at the missioncycle file and
 looks for the current map / mission pair.

 If it's found it then loads the next mission in that category, cycling back
 to the first one if it's the last one in that category.



 If the map / mission is not found, it simply restarts the current mission.
 This behavior at the end is probably what’s causing some bizarre issues with
 custom maps and popfiles.  If a custom map is loaded and does not contain a
 default popfile [Ie playing map mvm_decoy.bsp the game expects to load a
 popfile of mvm_decoy.pop] the previous popfile will remain loaded.
 Finishing this mission will just simply restart this “bad” combination.
 Similarly if a custom popfile is loaded (via con commands or vote) the
 server will seemingly be stuck on that particular combination until a vote
 or server command is issued.



 This default behavior seems undesirable and we’ll change it to load the next
 well known mission from the missioncycle file



 -  Mike Lee



 //---

 Hi,



 Unless I'm missing something, nothing in that article explains how to have
 an unofficial MvM server rotate through a series of different maps with
 appropriate popfiles.



 tf_mvm_missioncycle.res appears to have changed in today's 

Re: [hlds] Server Replay Cleanup

[Rudy Bleeker]

I use local http for replays on my server. In my replay.cfg I have
replay_dofileserver_cleanup_on_start 1 and every time I restart to server
it seems to clean up the old replay files just fine. replay_docleanup also
works (reports nothing to clean up at the moment) and doesn't crash my
server.

I've running a vanilla TF2 server on Linux though, so perhaps the issue is
with Windows or with some plugins you've installed?


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Chris M. cool_m...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Does any replay cleanup related command works? I tried to use
 replay_docleanup and it crashed the server.

 Does anyone has settings than cleanup replays on gameserver and ftp and it
 works?

 I dont think most of the server commands here work:
 http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Replay

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Re: [hlds] holy crap my hl2mp srcds instance started! :-) does this log look normal?

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Look good to me, except that you don't seem to have a server.cfg which
I think is weird, and you should probably point srcds to your steamcmd
install directory as it suggests on line 3.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Doug Simmons obidm@gmail.com wrote:
 my test instance is running under ubuntu 12.04 32bit.

 There are some asset errors, but it started. Anything I need to worry about?

 Thanks,
 Doug

 Using default binary: ./srcds_linux
 Server will auto-restart if there is a crash.
 ERROR: -autoupdate requires -steam_dir and -steamcmd_script.
 Sat Mar 16 17:54:36 CDT 2013: Server Failed
 WARNING: Could not locate steam dir:, ignoring.
 Using breakpad minidump system
 Using breakpad crash handler

 Console initialized.
 Loaded 13 VPK file hashes from
 /usr/games/newsrc/hl2mp/hl2mp/hl2mp_pak.vpk for pure server operation.
 Loaded 13 VPK file hashes from
 /usr/games/newsrc/hl2mp/hl2mp/hl2mp_pak.vpk for pure server operation.
 Loaded 1213 VPK file hashes from
 /usr/games/newsrc/hl2mp/hl2/hl2_textures.vpk for pure server
 operation.
 Loaded 574 VPK file hashes from
 /usr/games/newsrc/hl2mp/hl2/hl2_sound_vo_english.vpk for pure server
 operation.
 Loaded 381 VPK file hashes from
 /usr/games/newsrc/hl2mp/hl2/hl2_sound_misc.vpk for pure server
 operation.
 Loaded 432 VPK file hashes from
 /usr/games/newsrc/hl2mp/hl2/hl2_misc.vpk for pure server operation.
 Loaded 5 VPK file hashes from
 /usr/games/newsrc/hl2mp/platform/platform_misc.vpk for pure server
 operation.
 ConVarRef mat_dxlevel doesn't point to an existing ConVar
 Game_srv.so loaded for Half-Life 2 Deathmatch
 Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 320
 Forcing breakpad minidump interfaces to load
 Looking up breakpad interfaces from steamclient
 Calling BreakpadMiniDumpSystemInit
 maxplayers set to 12
 Unknown command port
 maxplayers set to 12
 Network: IP 0.0.0.0, mode MP, dedicated Yes, ports 27015 SV / 27005 CL
 ConVarRef room_type doesn't point to an existing ConVar
 Executing dedicated server config file server.cfg
 Precache of sprites/redglow1 ambigious (no extension specified)
 CMaterial::PrecacheVars: error loading vmt file for models/items//grenade2
 CMaterial::PrecacheVars: error loading vmt file for models/items//grenade2
 CMaterial::PrecacheVars: error loading vmt file for models/items//grenade2
 CMaterial::PrecacheVars: error loading vmt file for models/items//grenade2
 CMaterial::PrecacheVars: error loading vmt file for models/items//grenade2
 CMaterial::PrecacheVars: error loading vmt file for models/items//grenade2
 CMaterial::PrecacheVars: error loading vmt file for models/items//grenade2
 CMaterial::PrecacheVars: error loading vmt file for models/items//grenade2
 SV_StartSound: npc/env_headcrabcanister/hiss.wav not precached (0)
 SV_StartSound: npc/env_headcrabcanister/hiss.wav not precached (0)
 SV_StartSound: npc/env_headcrabcanister/hiss.wav not precached (0)
 SV_StartSound: npc/env_headcrabcanister/hiss.wav not precached (0)
 SV_StartSound: npc/env_headcrabcanister/hiss.wav not precached (0)
 SV_StartSound: npc/env_headcrabcanister/hiss.wav not precached (0)
 Precache of sprites/redglow1 ambigious (no extension specified)
 Initializing Steam libraries for secure Internet server
 [S_API FAIL] SteamAPI_Init() failed; SteamAPI_IsSteamRunning() failed.
 Looking up breakpad interfaces from steamclient
 Calling BreakpadMiniDumpSystemInit
 Logging into anonymous gameserver account.
 'server.cfg' not present; not executing.
 Connection to Steam servers successful.
Public IP is 50.40.140.6.
 Assigned anonymous gameserver Steam ID [A-1:163487746(3319)].
 VAC secure mode is activated.

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Re: [hlds] help with tf2 replays

[Rudy Bleeker]

On my Linux TF2 server I had this issue as well, which turned out to
be a permission issue. The replay files were obviously owned by the
user the TF2 servers are running as and the permissions on those files
were such that the user the apache webserver is running as wasn't
allowed to read them and thus not allowed to serve them to the web for
downloading. I fixed this by defining a proper umask setting in my
server startup script.

However, since this is not the Linux HLDS list you might be running
your servers on Windows, so your issue might be totally different.
However file permissions could still be something that's worth your
time checking out, for example by testing if you can download the
replay files manually with a webbrowser.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Rob r...@4umail.net wrote:
 got everything working, except for the error:publish timed out after 60
 seconds  cant seems to work out why..

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   1. Re: Weird FPS drops and peaks (pilger)
   2. Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update coming (Eric Smith)
   3. Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released (Eric Smith)


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 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:08:35 -0300
 From: pilger pilger...@gmail.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,  Half-Life dedicated Linux server
 mailing list hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Weird FPS drops and peaks
 Message-ID:
 cae29mvds-+d1g26rtxs9u1bqb95kjpsfp6kzp35blae_kqh...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 We do have a few, but I don't understand how the server can be getting
 higher than 66.6 FPS values. The plugins are all pretty normal within the
 Sourcemod scope and shouldn't be interfering with FPS is this manner.

 We've been getting resulsts like this all the time:

 20:04:50 CPUIn (KB/s)  Out (KB/s)  Uptime  Map changes  FPS

 Players  Connects
164.20   96.36  533.79774  25
 85.62 28  596


 The issue is still unresolved.

 Any ideas?


 On 2 March 2013 18:34, Brady Dow dow.brad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you have any plugins installed?
 On Feb 28, 2013 8:08 PM, Felipe Fujihara felipete...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  Yes, we have another TF2 server running on the same machine, and the FPS
 is well stablished at 66.7. This server also runs with full players
 (24/24).

 The server with FPS drops problem runs with 28 slots.




 --
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:19:11 -0600
 From: dow.brad...@gmail.com
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Weird FPS drops and peaks

 Well from the hardware side you guys seem powerful enough. Have you tried
 installing another hl2 server and running a clean one to see if the fps
 drops come back?
 On Feb 27, 2013 12:18 PM, Felipe Fujihara felipete...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  Hello,

 I'm hosting this server mentioned. We are using a physical DELL PowerEdge
 M610 Blade Server: 2x Intel Xeon Quad-Core E5550, 32GB RAM, 600GB SAS.

 There are other servers of Team Fortress 2 running on the same machine,
 but we can't see any problems with FPS drops, they're always stablished
 at
 66.7.




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 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:17:03 -0600
 From: dow.brad...@gmail.com
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Weird FPS drops and peaks

 I'm not too experienced HL hosting, but what type of server are we
 talking about?
 Virtual or physical?
 Multi-Core?
 Ram?
 Shared?


 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:28 AM, pilger pilger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is this Win32 list still being used?

 I only see people discussing on the linux one, but since this issue
 manifests on a Windows environment, I figured it should go here.

 So, anyone there?


 On 26 February 2013 00:45, pilger pilger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey guys,


 My server has been getting a lot of weird freezes and random FPS drops
 and I'm trying to figure out the reason. The FPS readings on the
 net_graph
 4 view seems to be all over the place and even has higher than 66.7
 values
 (as can be seen here: http://snag.gy/Qit49.jpg ).


 Is this peak normal? Could it be related to the FPS drops? If not, what
 could be causing it?

 The server is on a Windows Server Environment and it's 

Re: [hlds] How to only recieve TF2 update emails?

[Rudy Bleeker]

As you're using Gmail create a filter that applies a label and
archives the messages immediately so they skip your inbox. That way
your phone won't vibrate every time you recieve a message from this
list. They're not so important that you want to read them right away
anyway, you probably only do your TF2 server stuff in your off hours
anyway and probably from your computer, not your phone.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Or just *@valvesoftware.com

 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Lyrai lyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've seen Fletcher, Tony, and Eric as the offical Valvesters who reply to
 this list. So,
 fletch...@valvesoftware.com
 to...@valvesoftware.com
 er...@valvesoftware.com

 Just set your doohickey to only thingamajig emails off the list from them,
 and you should be good.

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF beta updated released

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On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:58 PM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote:
 The problem is that the server admin can still modify that base whitelist?

Why is that a problem?

the new sv_pure 1 without any further modifications is the same as the
old sv_pure 2
the new sv_pure 1 with a modified whitelist behaves the same as
sv_pure 1 has always done

server admins have always been able to modify the whitelist and the
settting of sv_pure, so nothing has changed really.

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF beta updated released

[Rudy Bleeker]

Good point, I stand corrected. That functionality is indeed desired
and even required if Valve wants TF2 to keep it's position in the
competitive gaming scene.

On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 12:54 AM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes it does change. sv_pure 2 was aimed at competitive players. The
 whitelist was supposed to be forced, so the away team (as alfred calls it)
 don't have to check if the sv_pure whitelist is correct when joining the
 server of their opponent. The players could be sure that the server is ready
 for the match by just checking if sv_pure is set to 2.


 2013/3/2 Rudy Bleeker rblee...@gmail.com

 On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:58 PM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote:
  The problem is that the server admin can still modify that base
  whitelist?

 Why is that a problem?

 the new sv_pure 1 without any further modifications is the same as the
 old sv_pure 2
 the new sv_pure 1 with a modified whitelist behaves the same as
 sv_pure 1 has always done

 server admins have always been able to modify the whitelist and the
 settting of sv_pure, so nothing has changed really.

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Re: [hlds] Server bans

[Rudy Bleeker]

This would probably be too big of a hassle for Valve to implement into
the Source engine, but you can always make a feature request on
Valve's Github.

If you run all your servers from the same box and the same srcds
installation tree just end your server.cfg (or any other cfg file that
gets executed during each map change) with the following cvars:

writeip // write banned ip's to banned_ip.cfg
writeid // write banned steam id's to banned_user.cfg
exec banned_ip.cfg
exec banned_user.cfg

That way at every mapchange your server will write it's new bans to
disk and then re-read the files to be up-to-date.

If you're running on multiple Linux boxes you can probably sync those
files regularly (every hour?) with rsync using cron. There probably
are  even smarter tools that can permanently check if the files have
changed. On Windows... I don't know if and how it would work, but
dropbox and junctions come to mind.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Doctor McKay mc...@doctormckay.com wrote:
 If all of your servers run on the same box, you can perhaps symlink
 banned_user.cfg.

 Dr. McKay


 On Monday, February 25, 2013, big john wrote:

 He's talking about something similar to sourcebans so you can ban a client
 from all your servers. Not from all servers. Valve could add a server cvar
 similarly to the mapcyclefile one where we can specify a path for our ban
 lists outside of the main mod folder.

 On Feb 25, 2013 1:52 PM, Ken Bateman novadeni...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think that would be a very hairy problem from Valve's perspective.
 They would have to track ban requests, allow people to subscribe to others'
 bans, all while protecting against fraud.  This would require an enormous
 ongoing effort.

 The chief issue as I see it, what prevents a troll from banning
 legitimate players he doesn't like?  How do you stop this?

 -Ken

 On Feb 25, 2013 1:38 PM, cls mega9900-...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Can we please get a feature to ban across multiple servers without using
 a plugin?

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Re: [hlds] SteamPipe is coming. Download the TF beta

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I think from all these reactions we can easily conclude that there's a
lot of work still to be done on the steampipe program. I had hoped
that the TF2 move to steampipe would have been at some later date
since I also have some issues with it, although I've managed to work
around those so far.

Fletcher, is there a place where we can give feedback (bug reports 
feature requests) on the steampipe program? One thing I would like to
see for example, if you're indeed planning to continue to develop it
as an interactive shell, would be for it to have tab completion of
commands. Although I agree with Jesse Molina that reinventing the Unix
shell is probably a bad idea.

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Re: [hlds] Disable TF2 Full Moon

[Rudy Bleeker]

I don't see why you would want this since the only thing it does is
enable some cosmetic items.

But anyway, doesn't tf_forced_holiday 0 work?

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM, cls mega9900-...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Re: [hlds] Web UI not working?

[Rudy Bleeker]

Send an email to csgo_servers-j...@list.valvesoftware.com

Valve uses mailman for their mailing lists, a guide on how to use them
can be found at http://www.list.org/mailman-member/contents.html (I
used this wonderfull thing called google to find this).

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:11 AM, List User l...@redspeedservers.com wrote:
 Does anyone know how I can subscribe to the cs_go mailing list without it?


 On 1/24/2013 9:09 PM, wickedplayer494 . wrote:

 This was due to a previously mentioned security issue:

 Milton Ngan mil...@valvesoftware.com
 Jan 16 (8 days ago)

 to Half-Life
 We had to disable it due to a security issue. We haven't had time to
 fix it with the holiday load.

 On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:01 PM, List User l...@redspeedservers.com
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 https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds

 Is that timing out for everyone or am I blocked?

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Re: [hlds] SourceTV/Replay and sv_shutdown command

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Does this happen to you on all servers? After the last update that was
released for TF2 tonight I tried to bring down my 4 TF2 servers (1
PvP, 3 MvM) with the sv_shutdown command. All of them have replays
enabled. One of the MvM servers was frozen so it didn't work
obviously, but my password protected MvM server (private to me and my
friends) also didn't shut down in this way. I was thinking it might
have something to do with the combination of running replays and
having a server password.

None of my servers run any mods or plugins.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Doctor McKay li...@doctormckay.com wrote:
 So, I like the idea of the sv_shutdown command. Only problem is, the server
 never actually restarts (until the timeout time is reached) if there are
 bots like SourceTV or Replay present in the server.

 Any way it can be updated so that SourceTV and Replay are ignored when
 checking if the server is empty?


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Re: [hlds] Built-in voting

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What kind of information would you like to see logged? If it's
information about who started a vote and who selected which option in
a vote, I would be against it. As far as I'm concerned votes on a TF2
server are and should always be annoymous.

On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:14 PM, cls mega9900-...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Re: [hlds] 128 Tick

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The more civilized answer was to direct this individual to the cs:go
mailinglist, which is at
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
but that page is unavailable for some reason. I guess sending a
message to csgo_serv...@list.valvesoftware.com with the word subscribe
in the subject and body should do the trick.

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Eli Witt eliw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jesus, go the hell away.



 On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:42 AM, sudsac...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi



 Can someone tell me how to make 128 tick server in cs go



 I am using tcadmin for my servers



 Thanks

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Re: [hlds] TF2 MOTD Browser

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On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Doctor McKay li...@doctormckay.com wrote:
 This thread is about the bug that causes the MOTD browser to not render the
 page occasionally

Which, as explained in several earliers messages, appears to be a
client-side issue so the server mailing lists aren't the correct place
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Re: [hlds] TF2 stock weapons only

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Nomaan, there should be an item_whitelist_example.txt file in your
/orangebox/tf folder, look there for more information.

Also there's nothing wrong with setting a server in tournament mode
with mp_tournament, MvM does this for you automatically anywqay. As
long as you leave the tf_tournament_classlimit_class here cvars set
to their default value of -1 so you don't accidentally enforce class
limits.

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Dondon Tudtud don...@applei.ph wrote:
 Yep, it will only work when mp_tournament is set to 1. People usually use
 plugins to make their server vanilla.



 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Bjorn Wielens uniac...@yahoo.ca wrote:

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Re: [hlds] TF2 stock weapons only

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On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Rudy Bleeker rblee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nomaan, there should be an item_whitelist_example.txt file in your
 /orangebox/tf folder, look there for more information.

 Also there's nothing wrong with setting a server in tournament mode
 with mp_tournament, MvM does this for you automatically anywqay. As
 long as you leave the tf_tournament_classlimit_class here cvars set
 to their default value of -1 so you don't accidentally enforce class
 limits.

Oops, after looking up some more information on this I found out that
setting tournament mode to 1 will force everyone to press F4 to be
ready, which is probably not something you want to enable on a public
TF2 server. Maybe someone knows a way around this?

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Re: [hlds] Colorblind support

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I second this, since I'm a deuteranope myself, although I will admit
that it's not affecting my ability to play TF2 much as far as I know.
I'm just not that good to begin with :-P

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:01 AM, James Haikin jfrra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know there's already some color line support, but its for
 protanopics (blue/yellow colorblind users). Is there any hope for
 colorblindness compensation for deuteranopics (red/green)? The easiest
 way I can thin is to pass all the visual data through a filter sort of
 like pyroland does. There are readily available color palettes that
 compensate for various colorblindnesses: I have some readily available
 if you need one. Considering colorblindness affects ~10% of the
 population is color deficient in some way, I feel it's bound to be
 worthwhile for a large group of people.

 -James

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Another optional *TF* update coming today

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Lol, thanks for the clarification Fletcher, although I think we all
got it when you mentioned MvM. I hope you'll notify us again when this
update goes live? Right now I've shut down my MvM server.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Fletcher Dunn
fletch...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 Sorry, that last email should have been a bit more specific about which game 
 was being updated.  It's for TF2.

 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fletcher Dunn
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:31 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 (hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com); Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing 
 list (hlds@list.valvesoftware.com)
 Subject: [hlds] Another optional update coming today

 We discovered a bug with the update today.  MvM servers are not reporting the 
 correct mission to the matchmaking system.  We'll be releasing an optional 
 update shortly to address it.  If you are running an MvM server, you will 
 want it.

 If your server is not running MvM, you can safely skip this update.
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Re: [hlds] Quick Play Maps?

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I'm guessing by the official website you mean this Knowledge Base
article: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513

Indeed koth_badlands isn't listed there at the bottom, but if you read
the section under How does the matchmaking work? you'll find there
are only a few maps that are not quickplay enabled. Although I think
that list is also not up-to-date, since I would guess none of the
_event maps are eligable for quickplay when there's no halloween event
going on. Someone should probably update that site ;-)

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Steven Sumichrast packh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On my servers I had these files downloaded an update or two ago:

 mapcycle_quickplay_attackdefense.txt
 mapcycle_quickplay_cp.txt
 mapcycle_quickplay_ctf_sd.txt
 mapcycle_quickplay_koth.txt
 mapcycle_quickplay_payloadrace.txt
 mapcycle_quickplay_payload.txt

 My guess is maps in those files are quick play enabled. I'm running those
 map cycles on my servers (most of which have good status trending upward)
 still not getting traffic (see other discussion going on right now).

 To answer your question (theoretically anyways), the map list for koth:

 koth_badlands
 koth_harvest_final
 koth_lakeside_final
 koth_nucleus
 koth_sawmill
 koth_viaduct
 koth_king


 I'd say that makes it safe to say badlands is quick play enabled.

 On Nov 24, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was arranging maps for my server to have quickplay enabled. I came across
 something very peculiar, the map koth_badlands according to the OFFICIAL TF2
 WIKI states that it is quickplay eligible over here (read under the patch
 notes):

 http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Badlands_(King_of_the_Hill)

 However according to the official website koth_badlands is not even LISTED.

 http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Badlands_(King_of_the_Hill)

 Why is this happening? Where can i get a more updated list? and how far do
 these maps actually go where we have maps that do accept quickplay, but are
 not listed?

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Re: [hlds] Quick Play Maps?

[Rudy Bleeker]

Thanks for the quick(play) action Tony - see what I did there? ;-)

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Tony Paloma to...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 I've updated that article. Gullywash, koth_badlands, and koth_king were 
 missing.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rudy Bleeker
 Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 5:31 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Quick Play Maps?

 I'm guessing by the official website you mean this Knowledge Base
 article: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513

 Indeed koth_badlands isn't listed there at the bottom, but if you read the 
 section under How does the matchmaking work? you'll find there are only a 
 few maps that are not quickplay enabled. Although I think that list is also 
 not up-to-date, since I would guess none of the _event maps are eligable for 
 quickplay when there's no halloween event going on. Someone should probably 
 update that site ;-)

 On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Steven Sumichrast packh...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On my servers I had these files downloaded an update or two ago:

 mapcycle_quickplay_attackdefense.txt
 mapcycle_quickplay_cp.txt
 mapcycle_quickplay_ctf_sd.txt
 mapcycle_quickplay_koth.txt
 mapcycle_quickplay_payloadrace.txt
 mapcycle_quickplay_payload.txt

 My guess is maps in those files are quick play enabled. I'm running
 those map cycles on my servers (most of which have good status
 trending upward) still not getting traffic (see other discussion going on 
 right now).

 To answer your question (theoretically anyways), the map list for koth:

 koth_badlands
 koth_harvest_final
 koth_lakeside_final
 koth_nucleus
 koth_sawmill
 koth_viaduct
 koth_king


 I'd say that makes it safe to say badlands is quick play enabled.

 On Nov 24, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was arranging maps for my server to have quickplay enabled. I came
 across something very peculiar, the map koth_badlands according to the
 OFFICIAL TF2 WIKI states that it is quickplay eligible over here (read
 under the patch
 notes):

 http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Badlands_(King_of_the_Hill)

 However according to the official website koth_badlands is not even LISTED.

 http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Badlands_(King_of_the_Hill)

 Why is this happening? Where can i get a more updated list? and how
 far do these maps actually go where we have maps that do accept
 quickplay, but are not listed?

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory Nuclear Dawn Update Released

[Rudy Bleeker]

Thanks Nicholas, It's good to know Interwave still supports Nuclear Dawn,
introducing a new gamemode even, even though you guys moved on to different
projects.


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Nicholas Hastings 
nicho...@interwavestudios.com wrote:

 We've released a mandatory update to Nuclear Dawn. The notes for the ND
 Update 6.8 are below.

 Nuclear Dawn 6.8

 - Added new Skirmish team deathmatch game mode.
 - Added new Skirmish map sk_metro.

 Server
 - Added nd_skirmish_limit convar for Skirmish team kill limit. 0 to
 disable and use only mp_roundtime.
 - Added support to execute a cfg/gamemode_skirmish.cfg or
 cfg/gamemode_warfare.cfg at map start if existing.
 - Added support to execute cfg/mapname.cfg at map start if existing
 after mode cfg.
 - Skirmish mode uses same mp_timelimit, mp_winlimit, mp_maxrounds, and
 mp_roundtime variables as Warfare.

 Other fixes
 - Fixed spawning-related glitches that could occur if pressing spawn
 button multiple times.
 - Fixed issues where server tags displayed improperly in server browser
 for some servers.
 - Fixed average rank in server browser not always adjusting after a player
 leaves.
 - Fixed an exploit that could allow a commander to use actions on enemy
 structures.
 - Fixed a server crash related to bots.
 - Updated localizations.

 Workshop and custom content
 - Skirmish maps are now accepted.
 - Added sk_metro map source to sdk_content.
 - Updated hammer fgd file with new skirmish and spawn point entities.
 - Skirmish maps do not require rts camera info in map script.
 - Skirmish maps do require spawn points for both Consortium and Empire are
 required.
 - Skirmish maps may not have resource points. Structures will not spawn on
 skirmish maps.
 - Map overview script is now marked as required for all maps.
 - BSPZIP now auto-corrects slashes for internal paths when adding files to
 avoid confusion.
 - Added -deletefile option to BSPZIP to remove files from bsp.
 - Added support for bots in custom maps without structures or resource
 points.
 - Fixed client crash when loading custom map having description but no
 title.
 - Fixed map loading background not being shown if vtf file was named
 differently than vmt file.

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Re: [hlds] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:30 AM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote:
 Unless there is a cvar to change it

There is, it's tf_mvm_missioncyclefile


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Re: [hlds] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Yun Huang Yong gumby_li...@mooh.org wrote:
 As soon as the server runs a map/mission combination that doesn't exist in
 the missioncyclefile then the server will get stuck on that map forever.
 i.e. when you finish the mission it will not change maps.

I've ran into this issue as well a while ago. The server somehow got
into a state where the popfile didn't match the mvm map that was
running, which led to 'interesting' waves. Then it never changed maps
uptill I manually corrected the situation. I never filed a bugreport
for it because I didn't find out how the server got into this weird
state.


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] [hlds_announce] Optional updates released for TF2, DoD:S, and HL2:DM

[Rudy Bleeker]

Actually it's coming in right this moment for me :-)

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Ross Bemrose rbemr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh hey, you're right.

 Did Eric (or someone else) forget to push the update? :O


 On 9/10/2012 6:41 PM, Frank wrote:

 I've launched twice and nothing has patched yet.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ross
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 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds_announce] Optional updates released for
 TF2,
 DoD:S, and HL2:DM

 Likely no, since clients will be patched as soon as they launch.



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Re: [hlds] Windows Server and symbolic links

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This is because of the way the update process works. It's an all or
nothing deal really. When you trigger an update, the hldsupdatetool
will report the current version of the installation to the update
servers. Then it recieves a list of all the files that should be
outdated and need to be thrown away and redownloaded.

So even though your individual mapfiles are already up-to-date, the
second hlds installation still reports and older version to the update
servers, which then assumes the files need to be reaquired.

I don't think there is an easy way to 'fix' this, since it's not
really broken, just a design choice. In my case I just run all my TF2
server from one installation, exec'ing different config files from the
cfg folder, depending on the type of server I want to run. I've also
turned autoupdate off, so there won't be multiple update processes
started at an update. When an update goes live I just shut down all
the servers, run one update and then start the servers again. Of
course, I'm running it all on Linux, but that shouldn't matter much,
on windows you could just save the startup lines in batch scripts or
notepad or whatever.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:46 PM, GE gamersex...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Recently I've added symlinks on my TF2 servers to save space and reduced 
 bandwidth on updates, however this does not seem to help when using 
 hldsupdatetool.

 At this point only the maps folder has been linked.

 Server 1 (master) update runs as expected.
 Server 2 (slave) update runs but deletes files previously downloaded and 
 re-downloads them ie latest tf2 update 4 maps that were updated, each 
 slave server then removes and re-downloads mvm_decoy (etc).

 Should the update not see that the maps are the latest version and don't need 
 to be replaced? Or am I missing a symlink somewhere else?

 Windows server 2008r2

 Thanks,

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Re: [hlds] Digest format seems to be broken?

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Change the options at
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/options/hlds and set
digest mode to No.

On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Andrew spamforand...@gmail.com wrote:
 How do we turn off digest format in Gmail?

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4. Re: Digest format seems to be broken? (Drogen Viech)
5. Re: Digest format seems to be broken? (Wander)
6. Re: Digest format seems to be broken? (Wander)
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 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 08:57:26 -0500
 From: Chris Cable chrisca...@gmail.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
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 Subject: Re: [hlds] Digest format seems to be broken?
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 Why is there a mailing list anyways? Wouldn't it be more efferent to use
 the Forums? Then people could search easily for previous issues.

 On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Chad Hedstrom
 chad.hedst...@gmail.comwrote:

  I'll admit, the MvM update is pushing a lot of traffic on this list
  right now, but a year ago digest format meant 4-10 emails in a single
  digest email, regardless of traffic.
 
  Two weeks ago I started getting 3 emails in a single digest email.
 
  Today I am getting a SINGLE (1) email in a digest email. I might as
  well just turn off digest mode entirely.
 
  Until the boys at Valve get this fixed, do you guys mind not including
  the last nine replies in the body of your email? Obviously we can go
  back and read the previous relevant responses if we need to.
 
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 Alexander is confusing HLDS and SRCDS with HLDSUpdateTool and SteamCmd.

 On 9/1/2012 9:56 AM, Calvin Judy wrote:
  I'm not sure where Alexander has found his information, but srcds has
  been smooth for quite a long time, unless there's an update like ics
  said that causes issues. I'm running servers on both linux (CentOS
  6.2) and Windows (2008 r2) and they both show consistent results.
  The google results for the error show mostly windows issues, and boot
  failures, so it's possible that's not an srcds fault, but rather a
  hardware condition. (Which would also justify why you get this both
  versions of Windows.)
  Also, you cannot use HLDS (hl1) to host TF2 servers.

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 Yeah, I suppose I could be confusing the two. I'm no server hoster, but a
 mapper. Having the srcds Steam tool working would be quite handy for
 testing builds, since a listen server doesn't quite cut it.

 On 1 September 2012 15:58, Ross Bemrose rbemr...@gmail.com wrote:

   Alexander is confusing HLDS and SRCDS with HLDSUpdateTool and SteamCmd.
 
 
  On 9/1/2012 9:56 AM, Calvin Judy wrote:
 
  I'm not sure where Alexander has found his information, but srcds has
  been
  smooth for quite a 

Re: [hlds] Proper way to change game types?

[Rudy Bleeker]

Hi Jonah,

questions about CS:GO are better asked on the CS:GO mailinglist, to
which  you can subscribe here:
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Regards, Rudy


On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Jonah Hirsch crazydog...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, I've been trying to change game types on my CS:GO server. By default,
 it's classic competative.

 If I run the command 'game_type 1' to change to Demolition, or whatever that
 is, the round immediately ends...then the half ends...then the game
 ends...then the map changes...repeat ad infinitum until I change it back to
 classic competitive.

 Is there something I'm missing.
 ---
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Re: [hlds] 0 Players, then Matchmaking stops working

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Judging from my server logs I've been having quickplay traffic all
evening, a lot of different people too. I don't see any problem with
matchmaking at the moment.

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:25 AM, T Marler bloodyi...@shaw.ca wrote:
 I'm pretty sure something is up with matchmaking

 players in queue 2446
 empty servers 2269
 active servers 30
 full servers 701

 cmon guys what's this about?

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Re: [hlds] TF2 MvM Server - Forcing Advanced Mode Workaround

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Hi Mike,

thanks for the suggestion, however this doesn't make the server switch
automatically between for example mvm_mannworks_advanced and
mvm_mannworks_ironman, which I think is what most people would like.
I'm still looking in to this as well, so let's keep the suggestions
coming :-)

Regards, Rudy


On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Michael Askin dth...@optonline.net wrote:
 Saw a thread on here about forcing advanced mode and the
 tf_mvm_missioncycle.res not responding to changes made to it.  As it stands
 now, you can call a vote and change the difficulty, but for admins who want
 advanced all the time on load, here is a workaround that doesn't require a
 third party plugin.

 Each time a map loads, it calls a config file with the maps name from /cfg
 folder

 so I made:

 /cfg/mvm_coaltown.cfg
 /cfg/mvm_decoy.cfg
 /cfg/mvm_mannworks.cfg

 each with the popfile CVAR to load the difficulty of my choosing.

 for example:

 tf_mvm_popfile mvm_mannworks_advanced

 This works on all type of map changes, including changelevel_next. Until
 they fix that res file, or someone wants to chime in with a confirmed
 working tf_mvm_missioncycle.res to force advanced.

 The advantage of this method is the users SHOULD be able to vote back to
 normal mode if they wish, although I haven't confirmed that yet. So don't
 quote me on that one.

 Happy bot hunting.
 -Mike

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Re: [hlds] TF2 Unable to login or secure servers

[Rudy Bleeker]

The file /orangebox/steam_appid.txt containing the string 440 has
always been there for me, just like the file /orangebox/tf/steam.inf
which also contains the appid of the dedicated server, amongst other
things.

I just ran a simple test, moving both files out of the way and ran an
update of the server. The steam_appid.txt was not downloaded again,
the steam.inf file was. I'm guessing Valve should either put the
steam_appid.txt file back into the TF2 depot or render it obsolete and
update the code so that it gets the appid from the steam.inf file.


On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Philipp Preß
philipp.pr...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Had the same issue 2 days ago.

 Create a steam_appid.txt (in the same dir where your srcds_run is
 located) manually which contains 440 (without quotes). This fixed it
 for me.



 2012/8/24 Brendan Cosman brendan.cos...@mammothmedia.com.au:
 Hi.

 I had the same issue.

 Running on Windows, I was able to resolve the problem by creating a file 
 steam_appid.txt in the same directory as srcds.exe - the contents of the 
 file are 440 (without quotes) - the steam ID of the TF2 dedicated server.

 I have no idea why this is now necessary. We deploy patches via versioned 
 packages and I couldn't find a record of that file ever being deployed to 
 the servers.

 I do note that there is a steam.inf file in the tf directory that might be 
 new. Perhaps this is an intended replacement of the steam_appid.txt file but 
 is not yet functional?

 Sorry for all the guesses, but maybe someone can make something of it.

 Regards,
 Brendan.




 - Original Message -
 From: Todd Pettit pettit.t...@gmail.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, 24 August, 2012 7:04:24 PM GMT +10:00 Brisbane
 Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Unable to login or secure servers


 Initializing Steam libraries for secure Internet server
 *
 *
 *   Unable to load Steam support library.*
 *   Unable to load Steam support library.*
 *   This server will operate in LAN mode only.*
 *   This server will operate in LAN mode only.*
 *
 *

 Fletcher,

 I have done a complete wipe/reinstall of everything for the updater to tf2. 
 I am not using sourcemod and I still cant the most basic of servers to 
 launch secured.

 screen -A -m -d -S tf00 ./srcds_run -game tf -ip ADDRESS -maxplayers 24 
 -port 27030 -nohltv -autoupdate -timeout 30 +map cp_dustbowl

 The only info I see in Valve support for this is to update steam.

 This server was running for over a year with the same settings and after the 
 update before last is completely useless.



 - Original Message -
 From: Fletcher Dunn fletch...@valvesoftware.com
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:56:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Unable to login or secure servers

 I'd check for order of operations, and make sure that your server identity 
 is set before it gets to the map command.  Looking at that command line, for 
 example, if you put it in server00.cfg, that probably would not be soon 
 enough.  You need to +exec the config file or set the identity on the 
 command line, so it happens before the +map.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Todd Pettit
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:00 AM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds] TF2 Unable to login or secure servers

 I have servers in a couple cities and in one for some reason I cannot login 
 into matchmaking and the server never connects with valve:

 hostname: SERVERNAME
 version : 1.2.2.6/22 5028 insecure (unknown) udp/ip  : IPADDRESS account : 
 not logged in  (No account specified)
 map : cp_dustbowl at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z
 players : 0 (24 max)


 I tried doing a complete reinstall. Ran -verify_all several times. I tried 
 -secure. I tried _restart dozens of times. I have the IP specified on the 
 command line. I can ping the server and can ping from it through ssh.

 I tried a clean install without sourcemod.

 I don't know why my other servers with the identical settings all work and 
 the 4 servers at this location will not login at all.

 Here is the launch command:
 screen -A -m -d -S tf00 ./srcds_run -game tf -ip (serveripaddress) 
 -maxplayers 24 -port 27030 -nohltv -autoupdate -timeout 30 +mm_pluginsfile 
 addons/metamod/metaplugins00.ini +sm_basepath addons/sourcemod00 
 +servercfgfile server00.cfg +map cp_dustbowl



 Anyone else have this issue suddenly occur?

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Re: [hlds] TF2 MvM Server - Forcing Advanced Mode Workaround

[Rudy Bleeker]

I must say I'm not sure if Ironman and the advanced2 modes are more
difficult than the 'regular' advanced modes, but perhaps you could
indeed run one MvM server with the advanced pop-files and one with the
advanced2/ironman pop-files. At least it would give players a choice
and choice is always good :-)

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Michael Askin dth...@optonline.net wrote:
 I assumed ironman was even harder in terms of the wave, so I figured you
 wouldn't want that unless you were with a set team of 6 people you know
 since the odds of being successful in that with a bunch of pub randies would
 be basically 0.

 So advanced2 is about the same, but only there for variety's sake?  If so
 then I indeed misunderstood.  Thanks for the heads up.

 -Mike


 On 8/24/2012 5:29 AM, Rudy Bleeker wrote:

 Hi Mike,

 thanks for the suggestion, however this doesn't make the server switch
 automatically between for example mvm_mannworks_advanced and
 mvm_mannworks_ironman, which I think is what most people would like.
 I'm still looking in to this as well, so let's keep the suggestions
 coming :-)

 Regards, Rudy


 On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Michael Askin dth...@optonline.net
 wrote:

 Saw a thread on here about forcing advanced mode and the
 tf_mvm_missioncycle.res not responding to changes made to it.  As it
 stands
 now, you can call a vote and change the difficulty, but for admins who
 want
 advanced all the time on load, here is a workaround that doesn't require
 a
 third party plugin.

 Each time a map loads, it calls a config file with the maps name from
 /cfg
 folder

 so I made:

 /cfg/mvm_coaltown.cfg
 /cfg/mvm_decoy.cfg
 /cfg/mvm_mannworks.cfg

 each with the popfile CVAR to load the difficulty of my choosing.

 for example:

 tf_mvm_popfile mvm_mannworks_advanced

 This works on all type of map changes, including changelevel_next. Until
 they fix that res file, or someone wants to chime in with a confirmed
 working tf_mvm_missioncycle.res to force advanced.

 The advantage of this method is the users SHOULD be able to vote back to
 normal mode if they wish, although I haven't confirmed that yet. So don't
 quote me on that one.

 Happy bot hunting.
 -Mike

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Full servers, but not?

[Rudy Bleeker]

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Todd Pettit pettit.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 1. Valve, why don't you test your updates before rolling them out?

Accusing Valve of not testing their games before they roll out updates
is like accusing a priest of not praying. Of course they do it,
probably even more than you and I realize. It just so happens that
sometimes tests in a controlled environment don't bring out all the
issues that you might encounter later in the real world. That's why
they update, often, always addressing new game-breaking issues quickly
imho. So please dail down your insulting tone a little.

Besides, this is a game we're talking about. A game that's free to
play, or at least shouldn't have cost you more than 20 euros or
dollars to play it since 2007, which means they've been supporting it
for 5 years now, fixing bugs and adding new content. All for free. If
you go to the movies where you pay around 10 euros or dollars today,
and it was a crap movie, do you insist they remake it into something
you would have wanted to see and then let you watch it again for free?
No. You've probably had more than 100 hours of actual fun playing TF2,
so count your blessings please.

Kind regards


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Re: [hlds] tf_mm_servermode and tf_mm_strict

[Rudy Bleeker]

Hi Hutch,

I am not from Valve, but here's what I know. There was a minor update
today that fixed the tf_mm_strict cvar. It now works again as
advertised. So what you're trying to accomplish:

- Quickplay traffic
- Visible in server browser
- Direct connection

Should work with setting the cvars as follows for MvM:

tf_mm_servermode 2 (strictly for the MvM lobby as you already suggested)
tf_mm_strict 0 (because you want to be able to see it in the server browser)

For all other maprotations:

tf_mm_servermode 1 (enables quickplay)
tf_mm_strict 0 (enables server browser  direct connections)

Don't put MvM maps in your regular maprotation!

I hope this information is of help to you. It works perfectly for me anyway.

Regards, Ruud


On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:27 PM, G. Hutchinson hu...@halsplayground.com wrote:
 OK, can someone from Valve please reply to this? I am a bit confused on the
 cvars noted below.
 When changing cvars, in console it will say on certain modes that it WILL
 allow ad-hoc connects, yet it does not. Since the list has recently been a
 bit confusing, please explain the cvars in detail, and assure us they work
 properly according to the explanation you give. Someone earlier posted a
 explanation that made sense, but when I tested it, it did not work as
 stated. Do various combinations has various effects? Seem's so

 What I am trying to accomplish is fairly simple... For 6 non-MvM servers I
 want quick play traffic, to show in the server browser and allow console
 connect command like we used to be able to do. For two MvM servers I want
 quick play, shown in the browser and allowed direct connect via console with
 a rotation of the MvM maps.

 At around 3am this morning I started playing with the cvars and noted below
 is as best as I can tell true pertaining to the cvars;


 tf_mm_servermode 1
 tf_mm_strict 1 --- (sv_tags _registered,hidden, mvm)
 allows console connect using connect IP, but will not show in browser when
 looking for servers I presume.

 tf_mm_servermode 1 - (sv_tags _registered, mvm)
 tf_mm_strict 0
 does NOT allow using connect IP

 tf_mm_servermode 0 -- (sv_tags _registered)
 tf_mm_strict 0
 Shows in browser, no quick play traffic and allows console connect. AS in
 the old days.

 tf_mm_servermode 2- Strictly MvM rotation?
 tf_mm_strict 1 --- (sv_tags
 _registered,hidden,increased_maxplayers,mvm)
 *increased max player? Valve said set cmd line at 32 for MvM... Is this a
 penalty of sorts?
 Allows console connect

 Why is this getting complicated? Any clarification from Valve would be
 wonderful.
 Hutch


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Full servers, but not?

[Rudy Bleeker]

FYI, since the minor update last night that fixed the tf_mm_strict
cvar, I don't have any issues at all with my MvM server anymore. I'm
running a vanilla server with no mods or plugins whatsoever. Some of
the cvars I'm using:

tf_mm_strict 0
tf_mm_servermode 2
maxplayers 32
sv_visiblemaxplayers -1 (the default)

It is visible in the serverbrowsers and accepts direct connections to
it, but it's been fully pupulated with quickplay traffic all night as
I could tell from the logs this morning.

I hope you people can get everything in working order again soon.


On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Martin Weltchek
cozmicshred...@gmail.com wrote:
 I like how well we are treated by Valve! I wished more company's would
 be this professional! I doubt EA has anything like this... I could be
 wrong... Anyways as long as Valve's Developers are listening to us I
 am always eager to maintain and update! I know these updates can be a
 real killer especially if you have a lot of servers but in a way it
 gives us little guys some love so we can get some traffic too while
 your updating a ton of servers...

 Just my two cents...

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