Re: What is largest record that can be sent using LU2?

2009-10-08 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:39:48 -0500, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: I tried getting LU0 to work, but couldn't. So I used LU2 and it worked. But used it to do what? What's behind the LU on the remote end? A 3270 emulator that displays the data? Or a program that does something else with

Re: What is largest record that can be sent using LU2?

2009-10-07 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:33:18 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: A minor gloss on Chris's response ... If you want to indicate that the request units you are sending constitute a larger unit of data at the level of the application, There are two bits in the request header

Re: Slow FTPS thruput

2009-09-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:36:21 -0500, Neal Eckhardt neckha...@penntraffic.com wrote: ... How can I tell. I don't see anything in the FTP parms. We are running z/OS 1.4 BTW. I don't know when GSKSRVR came into existance, but if it is in 1.4, issue the command F GSKSRVR,DISPLAY CRYPTO It

Re: Slow FTPS thruput

2009-09-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:16:35 -0500, Neal Eckhardt neckha...@penntraffic.com wrote: ... on the z9 that we just installed. Do I need to be running ICSF for this assist to work? ICSF is needed to access a crypto coprocessor. It is not needed to access crypto assist (if crypto assist means CPACF

Re: Long parms ... again (was: Reading DD card information)

2009-09-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:06:01 -0400, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote: I understand the concerns, but this sounds like a good reason for all ISVs to review their code. ... Not just ISV; shops should review their own code, too. My point is that there is no 100 byte limit on the

Re: Slow FTPS thruput

2009-09-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:19:14 -0500, Neal Eckhardt neckha...@penntraffic.com wrote: ... A 20 megabyte file takes about 9 seconds to transfer without TLS and about 160 seconds with TLS. The transfer rates are about 130 kbytes/sec with TLS and almost 2000 Kbytes/sec without. Are there any

Re: IBM Program To Help Students Gain Critical Mainframe Skills Grows To More Than 600 Universities

2009-09-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:56:31 -0700, Howard Rifkind ibm_m...@yahoo.com wrote: ... Want cheap..hire a newbie low salary and what not. Want to get the job done pick an experience sysprog. ... Ok. 2 not particularly compatable problems: 1. a large number of experienced programmers out of work 2.

Re: Long parms...again

2009-09-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:27:13 -0500, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: ... I thought he was pointing out your misspelling of Chris Craddock's first name as Christ. ... You didn't hear about Chris's promotion? Pat O'Keefe --

Re: Long parms ... again (was: Reading DD card information)

2009-09-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:57:46 -0400, Barkow, Eileen ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote: The argument that an existing program cannot handle a longer parm area if it was available is nonsense - just don't pass it the longer area and there will not be a problem. I don't buy that. Whether you are

Re: Long parms ... again (was: Reading DD card information)

2009-09-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:53:03 -0500, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: ... I respectfully disagree: 1) how are two options cleaner? The usage would be ugly... the JCL coder would have to think - let me see, should I use PARM with 100 or PARMX with more? and what if both are coded? I see

Re: SYS1.VTAMLST Full - Production

2009-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:35:08 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: ... For directory full there is simple trick available: just delete ISPF statistics action char G). If the ISPF statistics are important to your shop (They are for ours.), you can use the PDS utility from the CBT

Long parms ... again (was: Reading DD card information)

2009-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:15:59 +0300, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: ... :I'd be quite satisfied with this _provided_ it was compatible :with the existing CALL, LINK, ATTACH, etc. argument lists. :I.e. on program entry R1 points to a fullword which points :to a halfword

Re: SYS1.VTAMLST Full - Production

2009-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:21:40 -0400, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: ... If there is not enough space in the dataset, you can do an ADDCYL or ADDTRK, and PDS will dynamically create another extent. Not sure if VTAM can tolerate that, but you'll find out soon enough ;-) ... It's

Re: nslookup only searching default nsinteraddr

2009-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:38:31 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: ... - After the resolver has successfully contacted a name server, it stops without contacting the remaining name servers for that query. Name servers beyond the first in the list are used only if the name server

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:54:45 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: ... PARM='PARMX',PARMX='WAY LONGER THAN 100 CHARACTERS'. ... I'd be quite satisfied with this _provided_ it was compatible with the existing CALL, LINK, ATTACH, etc. argument lists. ... (And that symbol

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:10:12 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: ... Awww, c'mon. That exposure has existed for classic PARM since the Dawn of Time, and we aren't hearing complaints, are we? Clarifying, by symbol, I meant JCL symbol, for which substitution is supported. I wasn't

OT - End of a personal era

2009-09-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sept 25 my current employment ends, and since I'm not planning to look for another job, about 37 years of a system programming career ends with it. Although the last 20 of those years have been more support / administration / configuration of MVS communication-related software than any real

Re: Interesting article on the future of mainframe programming and support personnel

2009-09-16 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:26:12 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: Ian wrote: Take a moment and participate in the poll: http://www.cicsworld.com/ Like many a poll, it's missing some alternatives, making the results questionable. ... I think the results would be pretty

Re: Interesting article on the future of mainframe programming and support personnel

2009-09-16 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:38:44 -0500, Ian pcs...@gmail.com wrote: ... Thanks Gerhard, leaving out an option for retirees was an omission. I've added 2 option. Unfortunately, the really important missing options are Already retired and no longer taking mainframe-related surveys and Dead (And

Re: TCB Address

2009-09-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:09:29 -0300, Digestani, Raul rdigest...@santanderrio.com.ar wrote: I'm asking about how to obtain current TCB address in an assembly pgm. Others have given helpful answers. I'll give the curmudgeonly answer. RTFM (where m can stand for either manual or macro). The

Re: TCB Address

2009-09-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:05:15 -0500, Diehl, Gary gary.di...@allstate.com wrote: Factual ?? Even though I'm one (of many, I'm sure) that started the Fine usage, in this case I'm sure it stands for Fascinating. Or perhaps Fun-filled. Pat O'Keefe

Re: TSSO use of NETVIEW

2009-09-13 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:07:36 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: ... In the days of NCCF - and I think NOSP before it - and the first release of NetView, a semi-automation capability existed after the clist language was introduced. I describe it as semi-automation in that the

Re: ist663i suppression

2009-09-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
Sorry for the late response. I was out of town last week (and will be again by the time this is read, probably). On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:36:51 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: ... However, the right way to go about suppressing the IST663I message and all the following messages

Re: RIP snubbing

2009-08-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:00:12 -0400, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com wrote: I was not snubbed by anyone! I found everyone to be friendly and inclusive. This old joke once had a point, but now it simply is old and not very funny. ... I'm guilty first mention this time and I'm unrepentant.

Re: Need new 3270 emulator: SSH, inexpensive, reliable

2009-08-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:13:28 -0500, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote: ... VPN is a good solution, but not PCI compliant. You shouldn't have sensitive data flowing over a network in the open. Period. You would use VPN to gain access to the network, but layer another solution such as

Re: Forcing connection limits on CICS Sockets

2009-08-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:14:03 -0500, Henrique Seganfredo henri...@seganfredo.com wrote: ... I am thinking on a way of limiting the % of acceptance of sockets calls to the mainframe coming from the J2EE 'stress-test' servers. Is there anything that provides a way of forcing connection limits on

Re: Need new 3270 emulator: SSH, inexpensive, reliable

2009-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:35:18 -0700, John Mattson john_matt...@ea.epson.com wrote: ... Management ... now wants a SSH based 3270 emulation for accessing mainframe TSO, CICS, and such apps. ... Uh, something I've missed in the thread so far: What are you going to talk to? Does some

Re: Fw: Fw: Binder API...broke or working as designed

2009-08-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:56:05 -0500, William H. Blair wmhbl...@comcast.net wrote: ... The problem for us was that we could not invoke the binder API as we assumed we would be able to, and the reason had to do with restrictions that originate in LE. For our application, that was a pretty

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:36:42 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: ... Why is horizontal scrolling so much more difficult than vertical scrolling in ISPF? ... Well, for one thing, it's harder to know what the user (or developer) wants.If it's a table display doing vertical

Re: IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS

2009-08-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:38:03 -0400, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com wrote: Correction! The Service and Support is also priced at zero dollars. ... But SEPARATELY priced at zero dollars. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: SHARE in Denver

2009-08-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:42:52 -0400, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote: So, Denver is going to be my first real SHARE trip since 2000, who else is going to be there? ... Since my SHAREing days are over I humbly request you and/or others to snub someone for me. I'd hate to think that SHARE

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:19:16 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: ... ...who can be held accountable if some thing goes wrong. Accountable? Better read the disclaimer carefully. A software provider like IBM or an ISV will fix a bug if you report it. But, they won't pay you for

IBM Satisfaction surveys (Was: The Shame Approach)

2009-08-13 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:16:10 +0900, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote: IBM takes a lot of customer satisfaction measurements, and there is a pretty good system for looking at trends and taking action if/when there are weaknesses. I don't know if the satisfaction measurement

Re: Concatenations and blocksizes

2009-08-13 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:02:48 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com wrote: Even though the PDS calls it a TTR, each member starts a new block so the situation you describe cannot occur. ... Thank you for corfirming what my questionable memory told me. Doesn't that also argue

Re: Concatenations and blocksizes

2009-08-13 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:58:21 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: ... My understanding/conjecture is that when the Assembler (for example), using BPAM, encounters a COPY nested within another COPY member, it: o Does a NOTE to mark the current block. o Saves the NOTE word _and_ the

Re: Missing QPAM (was: Concatenations and blocksizes)

2009-08-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:59:52 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Ok. I didn't word things very clearly. ... QSAM handles individual members just fine so FIND, READ, WRITE and STOW are working under the covers. Seems like that covers most of the functions. Here I was just trying to

Re: The Shame Approach

2009-08-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:50:29 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: ... There does seem to be much more emphasis on getting PMRs closed than before. Someone's performance appraisal is probably based on the number of open (or closed) PMRs. ... I've also noticed a tendency for

Re: Missing QPAM (was: Concatenations and blocksizes)

2009-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:37:31 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: ... I was told that if you couldn't master the concepts of blocking/deblocking in BSAM, you had no business messing around with BPAM, which was designed as a add on product for BSAM. ... He was right, but that logic

Re: USSTAB

2009-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:47:37 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: ... I have seen system programmers deliberately colour their USS message fields without regard to whether or not the colour caused the field to become unprotected. Guilty as charged ... almost. Not exactly

Re: USS misuse

2009-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:24:59 -0500, Ed Rabara edrab...@yahoo.com wrote: ... By design, the standalone TN3270 Telnet Servers were to remain active when the TCPIP address space was terminated, with the expectation that TCPIP will restart shortly. ... Ed, you made the same misinterpretation I

Re: Concatenations and blocksizes

2009-08-10 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:20:53 -0500, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: ... CONCATENATION ENHANCEMENT: Like-attribute concatenation will be allowed for eligible data sets with different block sizes in any order; the largest no longer need be first. Eligible data sets are partitioned or

Re: Concatenations and blocksizes

2009-08-10 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:36:44 -0400, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re

Missing QPAM (was: Concatenations and blocksizes)

2009-08-10 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:31:31 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: ... (I could ask for the umpteenth time why there is no QPAM, but I won't.) If you had asked (which you didn't) someone might have answered that it's because the definition of the NOTE word has no provision for

Re: Concatenations and blocksizes

2009-08-10 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:20:48 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:52:59 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: I'm just puzzled that the enhancement limited itself to QSAM. No mention of BPAM. I had hoped this was an oversight in the doc, but apparently

Re: VTAM security issue

2009-08-09 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:03:33 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:57:15 -0400, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: possibly SNA organization viewed it as competition (even tho SNA had nothing to do with networking). Now I'm confused. What does the initialism SNA stand

Re: Telnet, was: Re: USS misuse

2009-08-07 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:05:02 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: What did NOT come down were the three corresponding telnet address spaces. This was by design. (Not just working as designed.) But that's not true! When OMVS starts to go away, without *any* stop or other command the

Re: USSTAB

2009-08-07 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:28:07 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: Fixing USS design flaws isn't going to be very high on anybody's list. But having enough complaints from different people (not just me - after all, we're just someone out in Europe!) may get a few of the 'suits'

Re: ibm Tivoli ETR support

2009-08-07 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:34:50 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: ... Yes, I meant Kathy. While I certainly say congratualtions for the promotion, I still have to ask why a very good technician has to become a 'suit' :-) ... I may be wrong, but I thought she was supervisor of the group

Re: USS misuse (was Re: Mainframe hacking)

2009-08-07 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:26:54 -0400, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: ... It is also a problem that some time after 1991, the IBM internal standards were apparently discarded (apparently with management blessing). There were specific naming standards, specific requirements for

Re: USS misuse

2009-08-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:44:20 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz- i...@gmx.net wrote: Recent experience has shown (and resulted in *a lot* of ETRs) that TCPIP cannot exist without the OMVS address space ... This is absolutely the case. The TCP/IP address space will hang in initialization if Unix

Concatenations and blocksizes

2009-08-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On another list someone found some product doc that still mentioned having the largest blocksize first in a concatenation. While trying to reassure the person I realized how little I actually knew about the topic. So I've got some questions. (Idle curiosity.) 1. How long ago did this

Re: USSTAB

2009-08-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:20:53 -0500, Martin Kline martin.kl...@yrcw.com wrote: ... BTW, for everyone (anyone?) who bothered to read this far, how many use a custom USS table? Is it just Chris, Patrick, myself and a couple other people in the world? ... You already know I'm in the customized

Re: ibm Tivoli ETR support

2009-08-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:17:07 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz- i...@gmx.net wrote: I would not call it delayed support, but extremely incompetent or more bluntly incapable support. In our case it is Netview, and the person has no clue whatsoever what a sliptrap does and 'works with MVS' ... ...

Re: Concatenations and blocksizes

2009-08-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:28:16 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: A problem that I have had in the past was someone updating a PDS with a blocksize on the DD which causes the blocksize in the vtoc to be changed. It is a misdesign that the OS allows this ever to happen. The

Re: USSTAB

2009-08-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:03:22 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: ... Yes, the whole design is a total mess. I suggest you hit your IBM support with this shoddy design with as much force as you can muster. It's incompetence piled on incompetence, in the implementation *and* the

Re: USSTAB

2009-08-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:07:50 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: ... To someone who understands the matter - see the analysis above - incompetence is the only word that seems to fit. The appearance of incompetence may have been forced on both the designers and developers - in which

Re: USS misuse

2009-08-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 01:26:11 EDT, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: ... Not much litany, but IBM has put out Dictionary of Computing for years. ... Online found this but it's poorly indexed. _http://www-01.ibm.com/software/globalization/terminology/index.jsp_

Re: SDSF PREFIX Enhancement (UK44477)

2009-07-31 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:39:12 -0500, Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com wrote: ... Call me a wuss, but I just type FILTER ? and get a fairly i ntuitive series of panels. . Ok Skip, You're a wuss. :-) ... Note that Chris comes emerges from lurkdom only when the most technical of responses is

Re: ICF - Information Center Facility

2009-07-31 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:52:14 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually use ICF - Information Center Facility? ... Is ICF the same Information Center as in the Eclipse-based doc viewing cr..., uhr, system? If so, I had to use it as part

Re: USS misuse

2009-07-31 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:47:55 -0500, McKown, John jmck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: ... How are VTAM Unformatted System Services and z/OS UNIX System Services the same context? ... Because it is not VTAM Unformatted System Services any more. It is z/CS Unformatted System Services, and once the

Re: SMTP misuse (was: Sending email via rexx)

2009-07-30 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:08:59 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:05:45 +0200, CUNY Yann wrote: You can use SMTP directly with REXX. (Socket REXX). Here we go again. There are two email facilities generally available on z/OS: one with a JES interface,

Re: Of link lists and application programs

2009-07-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:27:38 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: ... o Does the OS hold LNKLST data sets open, thwarting reclaim of PDSE unused space? ... LLA and XCFAS on every LPAR in the Sysplex that has the dataset in the LLA. Depending on how many LPARs have the dataset

Re: Sending email via rexx

2009-07-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:13:55 -0400, Baraniecki, Ray ray.baranie...@morganstanley.com wrote: ... Address TSO XMIT BLDVMB.VNETIBM DDNAME(EMAILFIL) ... XMIT-formatted emails are rejected by our SMTP daemon with a message claiming we need the gateway function enabled - the part of the SMTP daemon

Re: Operator Validation before Executing Command

2009-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:55:11 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: ... Before automation, we had to enter a $PQ,Q=... I was going to bring that up. There were probably VERY few times when $PQ was entered on purpose but if entered it was processed without question. The only time I saw

Re: USS misuse

2009-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:39:15 EDT, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: ... We did not chose USS as an acronym for z/OS UNIX System Services. ... In reality, herding cats is easier than making absolutely sure that everyone uses the correct full and short names all the time in all contexts,

Compiled REXX behavior - SEALPA vs. SEAGALT

2009-07-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
Just in case somebody else is not aware of this, ... The behavior of a compiled REXX exec can depend on which run time library is used - the SEAGLPA library provided with the compiler or the so called ALT library SEAGALT (for shops without the compiler). One big difference: when using

Re: Mainframe hacking (getting back on topic)

2009-07-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:54:52 -0700, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote: Not true... We had a programmer who wrote an SVC screener ... SVC screener = APF. APF means that you can update the dataset without opening it. So??? countless installations still do not have a clue about APF libraries.

Re: USS misuse (was Re: Mainframe hacking)

2009-07-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:26:33 -0400, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: ... The picture and last laugh came from one who had been rebuffed for pointing out the confusion caused by using USS instead of OE or OMVS, or some such. ... I admit I could not tell who got the last laugh

Re: USSTAB

2009-07-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:02:42 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: Martin Note that there is only one set of USS macros and they some from a VTAM distribution library, SISTMAC1. The IP reference, however, also indicates that you can use system symbols, whereas the SNA reference

Re: Downloading large datasets to PC is that Mainframe any Performance issue ?????

2009-07-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:23:38 +0530, Sachin T sachin.sach...@gmail.com wrote: I am downloading it through FTP... One of the biggest factors effecting large file transfers is the TCP window size, especially if you have a high speed connection with significant latency (i.e., a long distance). You

Re: Mainframe hacking (getting back on topic)

2009-07-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:12:40 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Also many operators acquired the bad habit of replying U to everything, and only checking what it was for if it didn't work. Unfortunately, auto-ops has that same opportunity. ... There is no incorrect manual action

Re: Mainframe hacking (getting back on topic)

2009-07-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:43:32 -0400, David Cole dbc...@colesoft.com wrote: ... A couple of years ago, there was a thread called Back doors. I posted something there about the vulnerability of z/OS to hacking. Here's the link: http://alabamamaps.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0608L=IBM-

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:32:29 -0600, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote: I have a very basic one to complain about: DFS0929I BLDL FAILED FOR MEMBER --DDMPPSZ This really means that the specified PSB DDMPPSZ is not in the specified IMS library. Why can't it just say that? As

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:33:38 -0700, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote: ... Pat:I am not sure I agree , but I think that most USS messages are at best inscrutable. Since I'm one of those that gets anal over this use of USS, I'll object up front and you can not care starting now. More importantly,

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:01:03 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: ... ideally USS messages are composed within the installation and so, if they are inscrutable, the person to whom to complain should be available with an in-organisation telephone call - assuming the original author

Re: Article Mainframe Stolen

2009-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:46:40 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: ... The proliferation of the PC has resulted in another proliferation: that of self-proclaimed experts that know next to nothing, but have loud voices. ... Oh, come on! We've existed and proliferated long before PCs!

Re: What is the current philosophy on running SMP/E ACCEPT on z/OS?

2009-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:06:29 -0700, Guy Gardoit ggard...@gmail.com wrote: ... why would I want to try to RESTORE one or more troublesome PTFs?? At worst, just IPL the production system(s) from the previous resvol (set) until the problem can be determined and fixed. IPLing off the old resvols

Re: Find the computer error

2009-07-16 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:42:59 -0600, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: ... Twenty Three Quadrillion? Looks like Twenty Three Thousand Billion to me. Well, my understanding is that American English uses terms a little differently than the-rest-of-the-world English. ... It's those

Re: NVAS error explanation

2009-07-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:28:42 -0500, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: ... The application is not found (not started, wrong spelling or not reachable - ie. over cross domain or like) Why would that be true only for me? I'm on the same network, in the same building, same list of

Re: Complexity (was Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?)

2009-07-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:20:59 -0500, Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com wrote: ... Realistically no company in its right mind is going to invest development and maintenance effort in something they can buy and have somebody else on the hook for maintaining it. That's what all the buzz about

Re: Any product to undelete file?

2009-07-10 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:05:39 -0400, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote: Of course you can with EXCP or XDAP, neither of which requires authorizatoin. ... Anyone who owns a data set that he doesn't want someone else to be able to read after he deletes it needs to cause it to be erased

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:21:22 -0400, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 17:33 -0400, John Mattson wrote: Am I just getting more cranky as I age, or are IBM messages getting ever more obtuse? I wouldn't say more obtuse. Remember this chestnut? IEB817I MEMBER NAME

Re: Any product to undelete file?

2009-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 15:22:24 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.vern...@klm.com wrote: ... A feature like a Recycle Bin could be useful without introducing too much overhead. If a dataset is deleted, just keep it, but hide it by administrating it in a Recycle Bin per volume. HSM could periodically

Re: Preview: z/VM V6.1; IBM Declares New Architecture Level Set (ALS)

2009-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:15:02 -0500, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: ... ... we can expect some future level of zOS to require the new ALS. ... Sometimes, the new ALS means a renaming of the OS. But again, that has always been a marketing decision, not a technical one. ... IBM

Re: Any product to undelete file?

2009-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:10:15 -0700, shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com wrote: ... All your questions easily can be handle. ... The one part you cannot handle is that, in my opinion, this kind of function should be implemented by IBM as part of HSM. One thing that absolutely should NOT be part of

Re: Anynet

2009-07-07 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:03:10 -0500, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: Hello all, is anynet incorporated into z/os vtam like enterprise extender is? Or is there any way to communicate with an SNA Gateway(Communications Server) from z/os 1.7 using the enterprise extender functions? ANYNET is no

Re: anynet SNA over TCPIP

2009-06-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:44:30 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: ... [3] In principle this applies to APPN nodes also and could be used to argue that, just because a LEN or APPN node does not have a visible PU, it still has a PU and that the PU could be used to characterise the

Re: Weird Formatting of posts

2009-06-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:07:33 -0500, Bill Godfrey yak36...@yahoo.com wrote: This problem was discussed, but not resolved, in a thread named width of postings July 18-19 2007. In that thread, in one of my posts, I suggested it might be a problem with the HTML built by the Listserv program... I

Re: anynet SNA over TCPIP

2009-06-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
Just one small comment on one very small excerpt: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:07:15 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: ... Pat, there's a hole in your education! ... Chris, This definitely not the first time you've discovered that! :-) Nor the first time I've displayed that on this

Re: Weird Formatting of posts

2009-06-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:34:32 -0500, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: ... The same thing happens to me when I use IE6. I proved to myself that my issue was a browser problem by slowly resizing the browser window and watching the words reflow. As the words reflow, the duplicate

Re: question about searching datasets for ip addresses

2009-06-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:19:58 -0400, Bob Rutledge deerh...@ix.netcom.com wrote: ... You could be in for a surprise later in life... c:\brping 100.020.002.020 Pinging 100.16.2.16 with 32 bytes of data: 0nn means octal nn. ... On z/OS (and I assume other IBM mainframe operating systems) a

Re: anynet SNA over TCPIP

2009-06-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:53:46 -0500, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: ... Regrettably there is no replacement for the brilliant AnyNet Sockets over SNA function. While true, there isn't much need for it, either. It's rare to find 2 devices with SNA connectivity that don't have IP

Re: question about searching datasets for ip addresses

2009-06-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:36:28 -0400, Bob Rutledge deerh...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Patrick O'Keefe wrote: ... On z/OS (and I assume other IBM mainframe operating systems) a leading zero signifies a leading zero, not a switch to octal. We include leading zeroes in some IP addresses because

Re: question about searching datasets for ip addresses

2009-06-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:25:19 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: ... It will be simpler with IPv6. The numbers are in hex without need for any format indicator. I think IPv6 addresses will actually be more difficult to scan for. You can optionally specify :: (two colons)

Access to IBM-Main archives (was: SHARE Requirements and IBM)

2009-06-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:15:22 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: ... And, sometimes they're rejected even *after* they're implemented! :-D http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0407L=ibm-main- archivesP=R2529I=1X=- Odd. In following Ed's link (that was not wrapped in the

Re: TCP SMTP

2009-06-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:43:11 -0700, Ulrich Krueger u...@pacbell.net wrote: ... What is your setting of RESOLVERUSAGE? I believe the value of this parameter needs to be changed if you want to use IPMAILERNAME xxx.com ALL|UNKNOWN vs IPMAILERADDRESS ... Yes. If you are going to use IPMAILERNAME

Re: REXX HI vs HE

2009-06-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:23:47 -0400, Tony Harminc tz...@attglobal.net wrote: ... HI and friends are conditions in the REXX interpreter, that are checked at each instruction (REXX clause, I assume that means). It's just a matter of turning the flag on using the IRXIC service, and the interpreter

Re: IBM Software Secure Support via USA Citizens

2009-06-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:59:41 -0400, Mary Anne Matyaz maryanne4...@gmail.com wrote: ...It's simply a way for US Govt accounts to open problems and speak to a US citizen. It's surprising how much is not in the US, and right now if a Govt customer opens a PMR, and

Re: REXX HI vs HE

2009-06-16 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:19:01 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if compiled REXX works differently from interpretive. I don't think the behavior is any different. I just mentioned that to indicate that I couldn't see what the exec was doing and that my diagnostic

REXX HI vs HE

2009-06-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
What is the supposed difference between HI and HE to REXX? I have never been able to terminate an errant exec under TSO with an HI (even though the response to ATTN tells me I can). Is there anything that would make HI work in some installations but not others? I specifically said in some

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