Re: CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe?
note that the first web server outside of europe was on the slac vm system True, although it's also true it was the first Web server anywhere outside CERN and anywhere outside Switzerland. So it's an even more impressive bit of history. Apparently someone(s) from SLAC attended a conference at CERN, saw this nascient Web technology, thought it was pretty cool, went home and made it work on their VM system rather quickly. This significantly predates the (important) work done at NCSA. Also true that the very first dynamic (interactive, non-static content) Web application exposed a find (search) interface to VM, also done at SLAC. This was way before even the now quaint CGI technologies. Google's Chrome browser is based on the WebKit engine, which is also used by browsers such as Apple's Safari (including Safari on the iPhone), Konqueror, the Nokia Series 60 browser, and Adobe AIR. Thus in terms of HTTP(S) client stack it's not new, so that's all the more reason why existing HTTP(S) server stacks, including all those running on mainframes, should be just fine with it. I'm not expecting any surprises, and if there are surprises they almost certainly aren't going to be unique to HTTP(S) server stacks on mainframes. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: (off topic):Suppressing PCOMM printing request
Doug Fuerst wrote: There is a parameter that has to be put in the init file to set printing to no. It will take me a bit to find it. edit your .ws file and add: [LT] IgnoreWCCStartPrint=Y UndefinedCode=Y UndefinedDBCSChar=Y -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Browsing an ASCII file
Neal Eckhardt wrote: I want to browse a UNIX file in ISPF and have the characters display as ASCII characters, not EBCDIC. I thought I had done this before about half a decade ago, but I can't seem to find out how I did this. What am I missing, or is my memory failing me? I'm usually pretty good remembering something when I see something and say COOL to myself. I can browse the file in the ISPF shell, it's the translation part I'm missing. Neal Well, REVIEW has had ASCII browsing for 21 years - were you thinking of that? Probably not.:-D Admittedly, UNIX file browsing - including ASCII - was only added about 8 years ago, and ISPF app-ness only 5 years ago. No doubt, ISPF does it better now, but still, the price was right... :) Now all we need is support for ZIP archives. GP -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Compression figures, anyone?
Hi. My semi-facetious remark about ZIP archives got me wondering about what sort of compression ratios users of compressed extended-format data sets are getting. Zipping text can get 75% to 90% compression (ie. reducing the data to 25% to 10% of its size). How's that compare? Of course, no matter what the size reduction is, I'd expect it to use a lot less CPU time than a zipping app. So, anyone care to share? TIA, Greg P. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Third Party Tool Usage
We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? As part of cost cutting exercise during MF upgrade we are looking to remove some unused tools so that license fees can be saved for those tools. JAcky -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TN3270 Abend S0F8 RC04
- Original Message From: John Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008 18:57:31 The level of ASASYMBM that shipped with z/OS 1.9 is HBB7707. John, are you sure ? ASASYMBM on my z/OS 1.9 is at HBB7740. I've been following this thread because I splitted Telnet from TCPIP, too, on 1.7 in preparation for 1.9 upgrade. Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Third Party Tool Usage
See: Tivoli License Compliance Manager for z/OS http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/license-compliance-mgr/ Although it might cost more than you will save! :-) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacky Bright Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Third Party Tool Usage We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? As part of cost cutting exercise during MF upgrade we are looking to remove some unused tools so that license fees can be saved for those tools. JAcky -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TN3270 Abend S0F8 RC04
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Walter Marguccio
- Original Message
From: John Chase
The level of ASASYMBM that shipped with z/OS 1.9 is HBB7707.
John,
are you sure ? ASASYMBM on my z/OS 1.9 is at HBB7740.
I've been following this thread because I splitted Telnet
from TCPIP, too, on 1.7 in preparation for 1.9 upgrade.
BROWSESYS1.MIGLIB(ASASYMBM)
Command ===
.Ø..ASASYMBM...µ
س..
Ø..5695PMB01 ±.é.|
Ø..Ø..569623400 ±PL/X-390 .
Ø.h..RSI12683873
..{...{
å00..ASASYMBM 01268 HBB7707.°Ö}.
Also:
BROWSESYS1.LPALIB(ASASYMBM)
Command ===
.Ø..ASASYMBM...µ
س..
Ø..5695PMB01 ±.é..
Ø..Ø..569623400 ±PL/X-390 .
Ø.h..RSI12683873
..µ...µ
å00..ASASYMBM 01268 HBB7707.°Ö}.
So, I'm reasonably sure it's HBB7707. :-)
Also, IBM Support said (in my PMR) that ASASYMBM had not been changed since
z/OS 1.2.
Anyway, you won't see the S0F8s on z/OS 1.7 regardless your level of ASASYMBM,
because tn3270 (telnet) didn't start calling ASASYMBM until z/OS 1.8 (again,
IBM said so in my PMR).
-jc-
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Re: CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe?
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Sipples) writes: note that the first web server outside of europe was on the slac vm system True, although it's also true it was the first Web server anywhere outside CERN and anywhere outside Switzerland. So it's an even more impressive bit of history. Apparently someone(s) from SLAC attended a conference at CERN, saw this nascient Web technology, thought it was pretty cool, went home and made it work on their VM system rather quickly. This significantly predates the (important) work done at NCSA. Also true that the very first dynamic (interactive, non-static content) Web application exposed a find (search) interface to VM, also done at SLAC. This was way before even the now quaint CGI technologies. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#59 CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#60 CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#61 CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#62 CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#63 CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe? and http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/history.shtml SLAC CERN are sister high-energy physic lab locations ... and would regularly exchange/use a lot of common software. SLAC also hosted the monthly vm baybunch meetings in the 70s and 80s. there was lots of VM activity going on in the valley during the period. one of the large vm370-based timesharing commercial bureaus http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#timeshare had its main datacenter not very far from SLAC. That organization had also hosted the SHARE online computer conferencing (VMSHARE) since aug76 http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/ this predated (vm-based) bitnet and listserv computer conferencing. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet It also predated what I started doing in the late 70s ... I got blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal (vast majority vm-based) network (which was larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until possibly mid-85) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet in the mid-80s, the HSDT project http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt had a lot of interaction with NSF and various related organizations (including NCSA) on high-speed networking ... misc. past emails http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet and past posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet -- 40+yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar70 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Compression figures, anyone?
Greg, I used to get about 80% when zipping SMF data, haven't done that for a while and never considered the CPU cost as I had to get the data under 2Gb. The reasons are now obsolete. The zip engine I used on MVS was ISPZIP from ASE. I may still have the performance numbers somewhere. Cheers, Paul Gillis Subject: Compression figures, anyone? Hi. My semi-facetious remark about ZIP archives got me wondering about what sort of compression ratios users of compressed extended-format data sets are getting. Zipping text can get 75% to 90% compression (ie. reducing the data to 25% to 10% of its size). How's that compare? Of course, no matter what the size reduction is, I'd expect it to use a lot less CPU time than a zipping app. So, anyone care to share? TIA, Greg P. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
GOBACK vs EXEC CICS RETURN
I think what you are looking for is at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dfhp3c00/1.3.4.1 I am not positive that this matches my memory but what it shows there is that BOTH EXEC CICS RETURN and GoBack are valid from a COBOL subprogram entered via EXEC CICS LINK or Dynamic CALL. However, what level they go back to depends Bartosz R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On 13 Sie, 15:44, Kevin Wailes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Aug, 07:31, Bartosz R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, does anyone know whether or not it is allowed to GOBACK from a COBOL program that was EXEC CICS LINKed? Are there any repercussions of this? The IBM manual for the CICS TS 3.1 says: Return from subprogram LINK The linked subprogram must return using either RETURN or a native language return command such as the COBOL statement GOBACK. If I read it correctly there is no difference, whether I issue the EXEC CICS RETURN or GOBACK. Is that true? How about the CICS logical level, which is supposed to be increased by LINK and decreased by RETURN? Thanks in advance You can use either but what happens depends on how your subprogram is invoked. There's a fairly comprehensive description in the Infocentre : http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/cicsts/v3r1/index.jsp?topic=...- Ukryj cytowany tekst - Well, that's what I though also. But the aforementioned sentence states that even when you LINK a program you can ISSUE a GOBACK instead of EXEC CICS RETURN (which IMHO is not true). The sentence I quoted comes from exactly that infocenter article. Can anyone help? Should I just experiment with this? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Number of Sysprogs sysadmins per 100 MIPS
Dear List I am in search of information on typically how many system programmers and system administrators would be required, on an average, to support say 100 MIPS. It is not that I am specifically looking at 100 MIPS installation, but rather I want to extrapolate this number (if possible linearly) to estimate the number of sysprogs and sysadmins required to support a site of any size - say X MIPS. I know the number of sysprogs and sysadmins at different sites varies even when comparing sites of the same size. Nevertheless I am looking for a rough ballpark number. I also understand this number is a function of the subsystems installed at a site. For e.g. x number of DB2 sysprogs x' sysadmins + y number of IMS sysprogs y' sysadmins + z number of CICS sysprogs z' sysadmins etc. So what I am after is - on an average how many sysprogs + sysadmins (z/OS, DB2, CICS and IMS) are typically required to support on an average say 100 MIPS? Thank you in advance. Nagaraj DISCLAIMER: This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others or copying or distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents in this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Number of Sysprogs sysadmins per 100 MIPS
It is not a linear function on System z. Scalability is part of the value proposition for the platform not just for the machines but people's ability to manage them. That is not just marketing from IBM. We have doubled MIPS with negligible staff growth for the platform. The sticky part is that is that it takes a certain critical mass to support 24x7x365 operation of z/OS + transaction subsystems + middleware. Once you have that core staffing level you can run nn more LPARS with n more MIPS without any additional systems programming staff. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO System z Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nagaraj_Pudukotai Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 7:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Number of Sysprogs sysadmins per 100 MIPS Dear List I am in search of information on typically how many system programmers and system administrators would be required, on an average, to support say 100 MIPS. It is not that I am specifically looking at 100 MIPS installation, but rather I want to extrapolate this number (if possible linearly) to estimate the number of sysprogs and sysadmins required to support a site of any size - say X MIPS. I know the number of sysprogs and sysadmins at different sites varies even when comparing sites of the same size. Nevertheless I am looking for a rough ballpark number. I also understand this number is a function of the subsystems installed at a site. For e.g. x number of DB2 sysprogs x' sysadmins + y number of IMS sysprogs y' sysadmins + z number of CICS sysprogs z' sysadmins etc. So what I am after is - on an average how many sysprogs + sysadmins (z/OS, DB2, CICS and IMS) are typically required to support on an average say 100 MIPS? Thank you in advance. Nagaraj DISCLAIMER: This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others or copying or distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents in this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS TS 2.2 and z/OS 1.7-
David, I will check out this information. Thanks very much for your response! Regards, Ken Duke Medical DHTS Kenneth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kenneth R. Barkhau Tidy, David (D) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 09/04/2008 04:15 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: CICS TS 2.2 and z/OS 1.7- Hi Ken, Without directly answering your question, and without mentioning our details as to what put us in this position, we are currently running quite a few CICS 2.2 regions under z/OS 1.9, and have not so far seen any such problem. At least one is a large DB2 system, although running SAP on DB2, so no 'creative' DB2 programming. Only problems we had that might have resembled this (and I think we did have some reason to look at this area) are when we went back from CICS 3.2 to CICS 2.2 without an initial start, also problems when CA-ENF was not working fully. Also make sure you have updated your CSD with the latest definitions for DB2 and CEE. We also at one point had weird problems due to our CEE options for CICS not being set up correctly in various ways. Best regards, David Tidy Tel:(31)115-67-1745 IS Technical Management/SAP-Mf Fax:(31)115-67-1762 Dow Benelux B.V. Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth R Barkhau Sent: 04 September 2008 16:31 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: CICS TS 2.2 and z/OS 1.7- Hello All- Without mentioning all of the details that put us in this position, we are in the process of trying to get CICS TS 2.2 to run under z/OS 1.7 on one of our LPARS and getting a transaction abend 0C4 in DFHD2D2 with a user abend code of AD2R. I have put on all of the IBM recommended maintenance for CICS under z/OS 1.7 to no avail. Anyone run into anything like this, or does this sound familiar to anyone? I have done numerous searches but have not found anything yet that I have not applied. I am primarily a z/OS systems programmer so CICS is not my strength. Any ideas or help are greatly appreciated. Thanks Ken Barkhau L8000 AP 3251 D2D2 EXIT DB2_API_CALL/DISASTER RECOVERY_INVOKED L8000 AP 319D D2EX1 *EXC* THREADTCB HAS ABENDED WITH ABEND 00C4,REASON, L8000 DD 0201 DDDI ENTRY DELETE_ENTRY 0D579040,0C9F5ED0,D2CS,B1. BROWSEADXTSS.CICSP4.DUMPA.IOFLISTLine 1233 Col 013 092 Command === Scroll === PAGE 01C0 40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040 01E0 79166DA8 C4D3E2E3 79166DA8 00FD4198 00C4 0B780988 790D 0200 0C63ACA3 0C639CA4 0C638CA5 8C637CA6 790A9240 8C638208 077C 0220 8C6382EC C4C6C8C4 F2C4F240 0CF42590 0033 0D47 0240 6E6EE399 81838540 E2A38199 A3406E6E 3300037C 5CD9C5C3 00C4 0260 2A00037C C1D7C940 2B00037C C1D7C940 0280 2C00037C C1D7C940 2D00037C C1D7C940 02A0 2E00037C C1D7C940 2F00037C C1D7C940 -- CICS TRANSACTION DUMP --- CODE=AD2R TRAN=BSRID=1/0001 DATE=08/07/28 02C0 337C C1D7C940 3100037C C1D7C940 02E0 3200037C C1D7C940 4C4CE399 81838540 C5958440 4040 Duke Medical Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kenneth R. Barkhau -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Third Party Tool Usage
snip We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? As part of cost cutting exercise during MF upgrade we are looking to remove some unused tools so that license fees can be saved for those tools. /snip Michael Cleary's DAF for the product loadlibs? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Browsing an ASCII file
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:30:55 +1000, Greg Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now all we need is support for ZIP archives. We or Review? ;-) We already have it with Java - which is free. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TN3270 Abend S0F8 RC04
John, check your SMP/E zone. I'm sure that's what Walter looked at.
Walter, check the module, like John did. I'm betting you have the same
module.
Entry Type: LMOD
Entry Name: ASASYMBM
To return to the previous panel, enter,END,.
To select an entry from a zone, enter,S,next to the zone.
* - Entry not found in zone.
** - Zone could not be allocated or is not initialized.
Status ---
ZONE,LASTUPD ,,,,,,
, ,D0710 ,HBB7740 ,,,,,,
, ,D0802 ,HBB7740 ,,,,,,
, ,GLOBAL ,* ,,,,,,
, ,TARGET ,* ,,,,,,
, ,T0710 ,HBB7740 ,,,,,,
, ,T0802 ,HBB7740 ,,,,,,
My ASASYMBM module, when browsed, says HBB7707, but SMP/E says it's
HBB7740. So, gotta go with SMP/E, since I can trace that module from
ServerPac to prod.
Cheers,,,Steve
Steve Conway
Lead Systems Programmer
Information Systems Services Division
Computer Network Operations
Phone: (703) 450-3156
Fax:(703) 450-3197
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The level of ASASYMBM that shipped with z/OS 1.9 is HBB7707.
John,
are you sure ? ASASYMBM on my z/OS 1.9 is at HBB7740.
I've been following this thread because I splitted Telnet
from TCPIP, too, on 1.7 in preparation for 1.9 upgrade.
BROWSESYS1.MIGLIB(ASASYMBM)
Command ===
.Ø..ASASYMBM...µ
س..
Ø..5695PMB01 ±.é.|
Ø..Ø..569623400 ±PL/X-390 .
Ø.h..RSI12683873
..{...{
å00..ASASYMBM 01268 HBB7707.°Ö}.
Also:
BROWSESYS1.LPALIB(ASASYMBM)
Command ===
.Ø..ASASYMBM...µ
س..
Ø..5695PMB01 ±.é..
Ø..Ø..569623400 ±PL/X-390 .
Ø.h..RSI12683873
..µ...µ
å00..ASASYMBM 01268 HBB7707.°Ö}.
So, I'm reasonably sure it's HBB7707. :-)
Also, IBM Support said (in my PMR) that ASASYMBM had not been changed
since z/OS 1.2.
Anyway, you won't see the S0F8s on z/OS 1.7 regardless your level of
ASASYMBM, because tn3270 (telnet) didn't start calling ASASYMBM until z/OS
1.8 (again, IBM said so in my PMR).
-jc-
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Re: Compression figures, anyone?
I just completed an exercise using PKZIP on the mainframe for SMF data several 24-hour periods for SMF types 30 (subtypes 4 and 5 only), 70, 72, and some others. The compression percentage achieved was upwards of 90%, taking what was a 4GB data file down to about 250MB. This pre-processing eased significantly the data-transfer bandwidth and elapsed-time consideration for moving the large amount of SMF data from an MVS machine to Windows for SAS/Windows processing. Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Y2K Leftovers
FYAmusement. Rummaging thru a source library, I happened to see this in the ISPF stats: Size Created Changed 1856 1999/06/10 1900/07/25 19:25:00 Didn't realize it had been that long since we updated that program. :-) I think we were on OS/390 1.3 at the time. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Extending a currently running (mounted) HFS
Some one just mentioned to me that doing the unmount and mount would be difficult in out environment but didn't state why. Why would this cause an issue? Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/4/2008 4:03 PM Went into OMVS from ISPF opt. 6. Tried to execute the following command and got what's below. I don't know why I'm was restricted from executing the command as I have an OMVS segment with a uid of 0 # pwd /usr/lpp/dfsms/bin # /. confighfs -i /.: FSUM9209 cannot execute: reason code = 0b1b011f: EDC5111I Permission denied. # Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/4/2008 3:08 PM On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:48:16 -0400, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might have asked the list this question about 3 years ago. I'm running out of space in my HFS and I was wondering if there is a procedure to extent it while mounted and running. Look for CONFIGHFS in the archives and manuals. There are several references so check the DFSMS and z/OS UNIX bookshelves. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: (off topic):Suppressing PCOMM printing request
Victor Is there a way to prevent PCOMM from printing when I logon to host? I remember there is a setting in .ws file but I can't remember exactly what it was. There is not only one way, there are three ways. Stephen Odo has given you one of the ways but it cannot be considered the best. The reason it cannot be considered the best is because you need to roll out that change to all the affected workstations where PCOMM is installed whereas the alternative solutions involve making the change centrally in VTAM. You can make the change --- either by specifying your VTAM definitions - somewhat counter-intuitively, it must be said - correctly in the first place --- or by coding your Unformatted System Services (USS - not *UNIX* System Services I'm obliged to point out in order that the general list readership do not become confused) messages using the BUFFER as opposed to the TEXT operand. Specifying your VTAM definitions correctly requires that you read and act on the small print in the description of the SSCPFM operand of the LOCAL statement in the Communications Server SNA Resource Definition Reference manual but to help you, here it is (to be viewed using a non-proportional font): quote SSCPFM ---SSCPFM=USS3270- || -- || | ---USS3270--- | | | | | ---SSCPFM= | | ---USS3275--- statements: LOCAL dependencies: none Determines what type of RUs the logical unit or terminal can support in its communications with the SSCP. SSCPFM=USS3270 Allows a user-defined logon message (USSMSG10) to print on BSC printers. Code SSCPFM=USS3270 for terminals attached to a controller defined as an SDLC 3271 (PUTYPE=1) or SDLC 3275 (PUTYPE=1). SSCPFM=USS3275 Prevents a user-defined logon message (USSMSG10) from printing on a terminal defined as an SDLC 3275 (PUTYPE=1) that might have an attached printer. Code SSCPFM=USS3275 to prevent user-defined messages from printing on BSC printers. However, be aware that coding this value prevents the local copy hardware function key from working with certain BSC printers. To be sure this function works, code SSCPFM=USS3270 or take the default. /quote You have to view indulgently some text which must have been present from the very beginning leaking out from VTAM development internal language where SDLC and BSC refer to support for 3270 devices dating from the mid- 70s. In fact, it is a somewhat inappropriate copy-and-paste from the equivalent explanation in the NCP chapter. The inordinately lame excuse the VTAM developers might give is that 3270 non-SNA channel support uses the same VTAM internal logic - converting to SNA - as is used for that almost long- forgotten support for 3270 devices through NCP. I also wonder about the warning following the However which is a separate note in the NCP chapter text. Given that I understand how this works - as you will be the time you finish reading this post, I cannot see how the SSCPFM operand can affect the Write Control Character (WCC) in 3270 data streams created by applications. I think this is a case of double-rubbish in VTAM manuals. This is no longer par for the course for VTAM manual authors, it is a double-eagle! It suffices to concentrate on the allows and prevents in the first line and ignore the following rubbish - also the introductory rubbish. You would be excused for assuming that what was written had absolutely nothing whatsoever in the world to do with PCOMM supporting a TN3270E client. I can judge that you have defined your own USS table and USS messages at least as far as defining USS message 10. I know this because there is no USS message 10 in the default table. You have chosen to use the TEXT operand of the USSMSG macro rather than the BUFFER operand in order to define the message text. It is the WCC that VTAM inserts into the 3270 data stream when it builds the message from the text specified by the TEXT operand that takes account of whether USS3270 or USS3275 is specified. If USS3270 is specified, the WCC Start Print bit is set to 1 whereas, if USS3275 is specified, the WCC Start Print bit is set to 0. You can now see that this change deals with the problem at the source rather than patching up a solution later, the IgnoreWCCStartPrint fix. If you had chosen to use the BUFFER operand of the USSMSG macro, you are required to specify the whole 3270 data stream, including the WCC in the second byte. If that were the case, whatever is specified in the SSCPFM operand is ignored. This, of course, is the third solution probably to be undertaken only if you want to benefit from the opportunity to create a fancier USS message 10 - and possibly fancier messages other than USS message 10 - which, assuming you have an idle hour or so, I would encourage you to try. Chris Mason P.S. Why
Re: Third Party Tool Usage
SMF type 14s can not be relied on for STEPLIB or JOBLIB concatenations. I believe that only the open for the first dataset in a concatenation is recorded when programs are being loaded. Also, I think that useful information about access to datasets in linklist or lpalist would not be available from SMF, Bill On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:25:35 -0500, Staller, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? As part of cost cutting exercise during MF upgrade we are looking to remove some unused tools so that license fees can be saved for those tools. /snip Michael Cleary's DAF for the product loadlibs? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Extending a currently running (mounted) HFS
Mostly CICS Web issues... Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/5/2008 10:27 AM On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:00:28 -0400, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some one just mentioned to me that doing the unmount and mount would be difficult in out environment but didn't state why. Why would this cause an issue? You never said what the file system was used for, but it would be yanking the file system away from whatever processes are using it. If you can stop the processes that are using it then unmount/remount the file system and then restart the processes then you can do it. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Compression figures, anyone?
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Greg Price wrote: Hi. My semi-facetious remark about ZIP archives got me wondering about what sort of compression ratios users of compressed extended-format data sets are getting. From my reading, SMS uses LZW type compression. I guess that is what ZIP uses as well. Zipping text can get 75% to 90% compression (ie. reducing the data to 25% to 10% of its size). How's that compare? Of course, no matter what the size reduction is, I'd expect it to use a lot less CPU time than a zipping app. How much money are you willing to lose on this? In our testing on a z800 (may be better now), SMS compression was too expensive in terms of CPU to implement in a general case. SMS compression is likely implemented in millicode, so it will not be __significantly__ faster than an optimal HLASM implementation LZW, which I assume ZIP has. So, anyone care to share? TIA, Greg P. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Q: What do theoretical physicists drink beer from? A: An EIN stein. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Browsing an ASCII file
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:33:39 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:30:55 +1000, Greg Price wrote: Now all we need is support for ZIP archives. We or Review? ;-) We already have it with Java - which is free. Do you mean that ISPF can browse ZIP archives, their directories and the files they contain, without a whole buncha RYO? I suspect that is what Greg was wishing for. Kinda like IZArc for ISPF: http://www.izarc.org/screens.html CBT Tape, perhaps? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Third Party Tool Usage
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Jacky Bright wrote: We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? As part of cost cutting exercise during MF upgrade we are looking to remove some unused tools so that license fees can be saved for those tools. JAcky I think the only true options is to create RACF dataset profiles for each of the libraries and then AUDIT those profiles. SMF usage data may not work because it doesn't show the concatenated datasets, on the first dataset in the concatenation. -- Q: What do theoretical physicists drink beer from? A: An EIN stein. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Third Party Tool Usage
RACF Logging? snip SMF type 14s can not be relied on for STEPLIB or JOBLIB concatenations. I believe that only the open for the first dataset in a concatenation is recorded when programs are being loaded. Also, I think that useful information about access to datasets in linklist or lpalist would not be available from SMF, /snip... snip We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? As part of cost cutting exercise during MF upgrade we are looking to remove some unused tools so that license fees can be saved for those tools. /snip Michael Cleary's DAF for the product loadlibs? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe?
Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: one of the large vm370-based timesharing commercial bureaus http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#timeshare had its main datacenter not very far from SLAC. That organization had also hosted the SHARE online computer conferencing (VMSHARE) since aug76 http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/ this predated (vm-based) bitnet and listserv computer conferencing. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#64 CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe? One of the procedures that I managed to get setup was monthly distribution copy of all the VMSHARE files and made them available on several internal machines ... including the world-wide salesmarketing support (vm-based) HONE system (and various HONE system clones around the world): http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone some past email referencing VMSHARE conferencing, VMSHARE files /or VMSHARE files on HONE: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email780405b http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#email800310 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#email800310 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email800310 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email800310b http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#email800318 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#email800329 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email800329 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#email800329 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email800331 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#email800331 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email800401 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email800401 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email800409 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#email811225 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#email820714 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#email821217 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#email830227 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email841219 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email850906 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email850906b http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#email860111 -- 40+yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar70 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Browsing an ASCII file
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:35:35 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:33:39 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:30:55 +1000, Greg Price wrote: Now all we need is support for ZIP archives. We or Review? ;-) We already have it with Java - which is free. Do you mean that ISPF can browse ZIP archives, their directories and the files they contain, without a whole buncha RYO? I suspect that is what Greg was wishing for. Probably. But if you access the file system with NFS or SMB, you can certainly open the archive with winzip or whatever in your workstation. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
We just installed a new Shark DS8100 with Flashcopy. I was looking for information on setting up an Lpar to copy all of the Flashed disks to tape. We back up all of our DASD every week. We would like to be able to mount the flashed copies in a separate Lpar using the same volsers as the original, and then back them up. I have searched for documentation on setting up Lpars to do just that, and haven't found anything. We want a simple Lpar, if possible using a one pack system. We use Zara for tape management. Eric -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Washington University St Louis, Missouri 314-935-3418 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Third Party Tool Usage
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:25:35 -0500, Staller, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? Some tools have a built-in usage tracking mechanism (e.g. SimpList), so you might want to check if any of the tools you want to monitor have something similar. Another option is that in the CLIST or REXX procedure that launches each product, you could add a call to an in-house procedure that writes a record to a usage log. For example, suppose the following REXX procedure is used to launch the 'XYZ' vendor product: /* REXX to launch 'XYZ' */ address ispexec SELECT PGM(XYZ) SELECT CMD(%LOGIT XYZ) By adding the last line you can call the LOGIT procedure and pass it a parm to tell it which product was launched (e.g. XYZ). The LOGIT procedure can then write a record to a usage log; e.g. a sequential data set or a member of a usage logging PDSE called 'XYZ' or a VSAM file (etc). The record that's written could include the userid of the person who launched the XYZ product, the date and time they launched it, and even how long they were in the XYZ session (etc). Such a procedure is extremely simple to write and once it's written you can easily use it to monitor all sorts of things. HTH, Dave SaltSimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! http://www.mackinney.com/products/SIM/simplist.htm _ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Assuming that you are planning to flash all of your production DASD at one time, you can do something like this: PRODUCTION LPAR BACKUP LPAR ------ | || | | PRODUCTION || PRODUCTION | | DASD|| DASD| | || | | OFFLINE=NO || not included| | in IODF || in IODF | | || | ------ ------ | || | |BACKUP ||BACKUP | | DASD|| DASD| | || | | OFFLINE=YES || OFFLINE=NO | | in IODF || in IODF | | || | ------ (You may have to cut this out and paste it into WORD with a COURIER NEW font to see this correctly.) The production LPAR would FLASH the OFFLINE=NO DASD to the OFFLINE=YES DASD. You need both sets of addresses genned somewhere to do the flashcopy from MVS. (It can also be done from the DS/8000 HMC; you really don't want to go there!) This is just one method; there are others that will work just as well. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Third Party Tool Usage
I think the only true options is to create RACF dataset profiles for each of the libraries and then AUDIT those profiles. SMF usage data may not work because it doesn't show the concatenated datasets, on the first dataset in the concatenation. There are packages out there. Some expensive; some not so. There's Tivoli Compliance Manager (or something like that) -- expensive. There's SOFAUDIT (I believe that's the current name) -- not so. We used SOFAUDIT to rationalise our licensing, and check versioning, when we upgraded from OS/390 to z/OS. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Third Party Tool Usage
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:37:18 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the only true options is to create RACF dataset profiles for each of the libraries and then AUDIT those profiles. SMF usage data may not work because it doesn't show the concatenated datasets, on the first dataset in the concatenation. There are packages out there. Some expensive; some not so. There's Tivoli Compliance Manager (or something like that) -- expensive. There's SOFAUDIT (I believe that's the current name) -- not so. We used SOFAUDIT to rationalise our licensing, and check versioning, when we upgraded from OS/390 to z/OS. - Those are the same thing. SoftAudit (note spelling) is the former name for IBM Tivoli License Compliance Manager for z/OS. Former vendor was Isogon. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Third Party Tool Usage
Those are the same thing. SoftAudit (note spelling) is the former name for IBM Tivoli License Compliance Manager for z/OS. Former vendor was Isogon. Okay. It was cheap when ISOGON sold it. The reason I called it SOFAUDIT was because that was the name in the PGM= field (softaudit is 9 chars). And, the documentation supplied by our service provider called it that. Under licence, they weren't allowed to show us the reports directly. They supplied us with a spreadsheet that had sumarised the information, system, version, usage count, product, vendor, etc. The spreadsheet was always called SOFAUDIT.xls - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Third Party Tool Usage
FWIW A situation I have been faced with many times. If the product is contained in its own library and not on the linklist then a security product audit should give the required usage. Also the SMF type 30 record will provide information at least about the lead module executed which should be sufficient to identify usage of the product. Then there are link listed product libraries and the almost inevitable miscellaneous libraries which contain all the stuff the customer didn't know what to do with. (Which of course are always authorized) For these I wrote a CSVLLIX1 exit to write an SMF record for every LOAD etc. I used the information to move active modules to another library. This has proved pretty reliable although I was once deceived by a product which seemed to have its own method of loading programs. Eventually you have to drop the library and see who screams but if it is about money you have right on your side. David Elliot zSeries Software Engineer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacky Bright Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 4:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Third Party Tool Usage We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? As part of cost cutting exercise during MF upgrade we are looking to remove some unused tools so that license fees can be saved for those tools. JAcky -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Number of Sysprogs sysadmins per 100 MIPS
Such typical value per 100MIPS has no value at all. Over years we have grown almost 100 times (in MIPS terms) with no staff growth. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Y2K Leftovers
Size Created Changed 1856 1999/06/10 1900/07/25 19:25:00 1856 was a really good size... Hey - it's Friday, is it not? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Eric, Why do you want to do the backup (dump?) from a separate LPAR, if I may ask? Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:59 AM We just installed a new Shark DS8100 with Flashcopy. I was looking for information on setting up an Lpar to copy all of the Flashed disks to tape. We back up all of our DASD every week. We would like to be able to mount the flashed copies in a separate Lpar using the same volsers as the original, and then back them up. I have searched for documentation on setting up Lpars to do just that, and haven't found anything. We want a simple Lpar, if possible using a one pack system. We use Zara for tape management. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Greg, The backup (Flash) will be done from the production Lpar. Because all the volsers on the backup copies are the same, we want to do the backups to tape on a separate lpar. I haven't worked with flashcopy before, so there may be something I am missing. Eric Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric, Why do you want to do the backup (dump?) from a separate LPAR, if I may ask? Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:59 AM We just installed a new Shark DS8100 with Flashcopy. I was looking for information on setting up an Lpar to copy all of the Flashed disks to tape. We back up all of our DASD every week. We would like to be able to mount the flashed copies in a separate Lpar using the same volsers as the original, and then back them up. I have searched for documentation on setting up Lpars to do just that, and haven't found anything. We want a simple Lpar, if possible using a one pack system. We use Zara for tape management. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Washington University St Louis, Missouri 314-935-3418 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
The DUMPCONDITIONING parameter of the DFSMSdss COPY FULL command allows both the source and target volumes to remain online after a full volume copy operation, thus creating an interim copy for a subsequent dump to tape that can be done using the same system. When DUMPCONDITIONING is specified, the volser of the target volume does not change. The conditioned volume is not usable in its current state - except for the DFSMSdss DUMP operation, because the volser, the VTOC index and VVDS names are not consistent. A full volume dump of the conditioned volume results in a dump data set that looks like it was created by dumping the sourve volume. This allows the dump data set to be restored and used without having to clip back the volser. This is from Chapter 2 of: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245680.pdf HTH, Greg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy Greg, The backup (Flash) will be done from the production Lpar. Because all the volsers on the backup copies are the same, we want to do the backups to tape on a separate lpar. I haven't worked with flashcopy before, so there may be something I am missing. Eric Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric, Why do you want to do the backup (dump?) from a separate LPAR, if I may ask? Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:59 AM We just installed a new Shark DS8100 with Flashcopy. I was looking for information on setting up an Lpar to copy all of the Flashed disks to tape. We back up all of our DASD every week. We would like to be able to mount the flashed copies in a separate Lpar using the same volsers as the original, and then back them up. I have searched for documentation on setting up Lpars to do just that, and haven't found anything. We want a simple Lpar, if possible using a one pack system. We use Zara for tape management. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Washington University St Louis, Missouri 314-935-3418 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Back in the Y2K frenzy, we set up our Time Machine by using FlashCopy (actually SNAP, since it was a good ol' RVA) and it worked quite well. The first step was to rename the offline target pack(s), vary it on, then we SNAPped the source volume(s), which automagically varied the target back to offline (duplicate volid) and done. This was done, several times a week, sometimes twice or thrice a day, and even some packs were dumped to tape to preserve the same data, etc. The only caveat would be to make sure that the source LPAR should have all the addresses of the target LPAR offline to prevent the duplicate volume messages. Since our target was basically a clone of the production LPAR, including user catalogs and the such, with minor changes to the tape environment, of course, it was akin to running it in the production environment. HTH Frank -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy Greg, The backup (Flash) will be done from the production Lpar. Because all the volsers on the backup copies are the same, we want to do the backups to tape on a separate lpar. I haven't worked with flashcopy before, so there may be something I am missing. Eric Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric, Why do you want to do the backup (dump?) from a separate LPAR, if I may ask? Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:59 AM We just installed a new Shark DS8100 with Flashcopy. I was looking for information on setting up an Lpar to copy all of the Flashed disks to tape. We back up all of our DASD every week. We would like to be able to mount the flashed copies in a separate Lpar using the same volsers as the original, and then back them up. I have searched for documentation on setting up Lpars to do just that, and haven't found anything. We want a simple Lpar, if possible using a one pack system. We use Zara for tape management. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Washington University St Louis, Missouri 314-935-3418 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
We just installed a new Shark DS8100 with Flashcopy. I was looking for information on setting up an Lpar to copy all of the Flashed disks to tape. We back up all of our DASD every week. We would like to be able to mount the flashed copies in a separate Lpar using the same volsers as the original, and then back them up. I have searched for documentation on setting up Lpars to do just that, and haven't found anything. We want a simple Lpar, if possible using a one pack system. We use Zara for tape management. Eric / Eric - Have you already considered using a 3rd party product to back up the offline volumes? We're doing it daily with an Innovation product. dd keller ** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Thanks Greg. I hadn't found that book yet, and am downloading it now. Unfortuneatly, we don't have DFDSS here, only FDR. This book looks like it will help me. Eric Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The DUMPCONDITIONING parameter of the DFSMSdss COPY FULL command allows both the source and target volumes to remain online after a full volume copy operation, thus creating an interim copy for a subsequent dump to tape that can be done using the same system. When DUMPCONDITIONING is specified, the volser of the target volume does not change. The conditioned volume is not usable in its current state - except for the DFSMSdss DUMP operation, because the volser, the VTOC index and VVDS names are not consistent. A full volume dump of the conditioned volume results in a dump data set that looks like it was created by dumping the sourve volume. This allows the dump data set to be restored and used without having to clip back the volser. This is from Chapter 2 of: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245680.pdf HTH, Greg -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Washington University St Louis, Missouri 314-935-3418 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Martinez, Frank J wrote: Back in the Y2K frenzy, we set up our Time Machine by using FlashCopy (actually SNAP, since it was a good ol' RVA) and it worked quite well. The first step was to rename the offline target pack(s), vary it on, then we SNAPped the source volume(s), which automagically varied the target back to offline (duplicate volid) and done. This was done, several times a week, sometimes twice or thrice a day, and even some packs were dumped to tape to preserve the same data, etc. The only caveat would be to make sure that the source LPAR should have all the addresses of the target LPAR offline to prevent the duplicate volume messages. Since our target was basically a clone of the production LPAR, including user catalogs and the such, with minor changes to the tape environment, of course, it was akin to running it in the production environment. In fact, IMHO the approach is bad: why to perform full volume dump? Such copy is good for DR or system cloning/moving, etc. But not regular backup - how to restore single dataset or DB2 table ? Yes, it is possible, but not easy. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TN3270 Abend S0F8 RC04
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 09/05/2008
09:39:00 AM:
John, check your SMP/E zone. I'm sure that's what Walter looked at.
Walter, check the module, like John did. I'm betting you have the same
module.
Entry Type: LMOD
Entry Name: ASASYMBM
To return to the previous panel, enter,END,.
To select an entry from a zone, enter,S,next to the zone.
* - Entry not found in zone.
** - Zone could not be allocated or is not initialized.
Status
---
ZONE,LASTUPD ,,,,,,
, ,D0710 ,HBB7740 ,,,,,,
, ,D0802 ,HBB7740 ,,,,,,
, ,GLOBAL ,* ,,,,,,
, ,TARGET ,* ,,,,,,
, ,T0710 ,HBB7740 ,,,,,,
, ,T0802 ,HBB7740 ,,,,,,
My ASASYMBM module, when browsed, says HBB7707, but SMP/E says it's
HBB7740. So, gotta go with SMP/E, since I can trace that module from
ServerPac to prod.
-Original Message-
The level of ASASYMBM that shipped with z/OS 1.9 is HBB7707.
John,
are you sure ? ASASYMBM on my z/OS 1.9 is at HBB7740.
I've been following this thread because I splitted Telnet
from TCPIP, too, on 1.7 in preparation for 1.9 upgrade.
BROWSESYS1.MIGLIB(ASASYMBM)
Command ===
.Ø..ASASYMBM...µ
س..
Ø..5695PMB01 ±.é.|
Ø..Ø..569623400 ±PL/X-390 .
Ø.h..RSI12683873
..{...{
å00..ASASYMBM 01268 HBB7707.°Ö}.
Also:
BROWSESYS1.LPALIB(ASASYMBM)
Command ===
.Ø..ASASYMBM...µ
س..
Ø..5695PMB01 ±.é..
Ø..Ø..569623400 ±PL/X-390 .
Ø.h..RSI12683873
..µ...µ
å00..ASASYMBM 01268 HBB7707.°Ö}.
So, I'm reasonably sure it's HBB7707. :-)
Also, IBM Support said (in my PMR) that ASASYMBM had not been changed
since z/OS 1.2.
Anyway, you won't see the S0F8s on z/OS 1.7 regardless your level of
ASASYMBM, because tn3270 (telnet) didn't start calling ASASYMBM until
z/OS
1.8 (again, IBM said so in my PMR).
HBB FMIDs are full ship releases - they contain all of the parts.
JBB FMIDs are partial - they contain only changed parts. So to
install a JBB, you must also install all of the preceeding releases
back to the previous HBB. MVS/370 and MVS/XA each had one HBB
followed by a string of JBB. Some customers did not like having
to install multiple releases when doing an upgrade, so as of MVS/ESA
we went to shipping mostly HBB releases. For a part which is
not changed in a release, our build process goes back and finds the
last time it was compiled, and drags that version (which for a module,
is just the OBJ without recompiling it) into the current release.
So from an SMP/E point of view, the level of ASASYMBM in HBB7740
is HBB7740 (z/OS 1.9). However, the last time it was compiled/assembled
was HBB7720 (z/OS 1.7). And looking at the OCO source, the last time
the source was changed was HBB7705 (z/OS 1.2).
Which just goes to show that even a seemingly simple question
like when was the last time x was changed has an answer that
depends on the context of changed.
Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY
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Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Eric, Using FDR to flash the volume. //FLASH EXEC PGM=FDRABR,REGION=0M,COND=(0,NE) //TAPE1 DD DUMMY,LABEL=RETPD=15 //TAPE2 DD DUMMY,LABEL=RETPD=15 //SYSPRIN1DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRIN2DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRIN3DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINTDD SYSOUT=* //SYSUDUMPDD SYSOUT=* FCOPY TYPE=FDR,VERIFYVOLSER=NO,CONFMESS=NO MOUNT VOL=DB2E49,FLASHUNIT=628B Then to backup from the flashed volume to tape //STEP010 EXEC PGM=FDRABR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRIN1 DD SYSOUT=* //ABRMAP DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=R,HOLD=YES //TAPE1 DD DSN=FDRABR.PROD.DBE1001, // DISP=(NEW,KEEP), // UNIT=MAGTAPE, // VOL=(,,,50) //SYSINDD * DUMP TYPE=FDR,DSNENQ=NONE,PRINT=ABR,BUFNO=MAX,RTC=YES, ENQERR=NO,TAPERRCD=NO,SELTERR=NO,RTC=YES,FCOPY=(USE,REL) MOUNT VOL=DB2E* /* Jerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z/OS 1.9 and IBM1521I S 4.0 Not enough virtual memory is available to continue
We have 1.9 on one of our test systems. This is a system that was build in Jan. 2008. We also have another test 1.9 system, which I just applied all hipers and RSUs through 0806 and now I cannot get PL/I 3.7 to compile. Both systems have the same storage amount. Has anyone seen anything like this? I have a ticket opened with PL/I support and now I just opened up one with virtual storage manager. We are due to go production on Sept. 28, and I cannot go forward with this. Thanks. Sharon Lopez Enterprise Systems Programmer 919-754-6432 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- E-Mail correspondence to and from this sender may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law, and may be disclosed to third parties. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
zooos!
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Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Eric, DFDSS should be part of DFSMS. FDR is a pay for. So you should already have it in house. Lizette : Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy Thanks Greg. I hadn't found that book yet, and am downloading it now. Unfortuneatly, we don't have DFDSS here, only FDR. This book looks like it will help me. Eric Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The DUMPCONDITIONING parameter of the DFSMSdss COPY FULL command allows both the source and target volumes to remain online after a full volume copy operation, thus creating an interim copy for a subsequent dump to tape that can be done using the same system. When DUMPCONDITIONING is specified, the volser of the target volume does not change. The conditioned volume is not usable in its current state - except for the DFSMSdss DUMP operation, because the volser, the VTOC index and VVDS names are not consistent. A full volume dump of the conditioned volume results in a dump data set that looks like it was created by dumping the sourve volume. This allows the dump data set to be restored and used without having to clip back the volser. This is from Chapter 2 of: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245680.pdf HTH, Greg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Eric, Don't know what happened to my first reply so will try again. When you do a flash copy the target unit is invalidated so that it cannot be brought online. FDR supplies a utility to restore it to the original source volser if you really want to. First to flash the volume to an offline volume //FLASH EXEC PGM=FDRABR,REGION=0M,COND=(0,NE) //TAPE1 DD DUMMY,LABEL=RETPD=15 //TAPE2 DD DUMMY,LABEL=RETPD=15 //SYSPRIN1DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRIN2DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINTDD SYSOUT=* //SYSUDUMPDD SYSOUT=* FCOPY TYPE=FDR,VERIFYVOLSER=NO,CONFMESS=NO MOUNT VOL=DB2E49,FLASHUNIT=628B /* The to back up the flashed volume to tape //STEP010 EXEC PGM=FDRABR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRIN1 DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRIN2 DD SYSOUT=* //ABRMAP DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=R,HOLD=YES //TAPE1 DD DSN=FDRABR.PROD.DBE1001, // DISP=(NEW,KEEP), // UNIT=MAGTAPE, // VOL=(,,,50) //SYSINDD * DUMP TYPE=FDR,DSNENQ=NONE,PRINT=ABR,BUFNO=MAX,RTC=YES, ENQERR=NO,TAPERRCD=NO,SELTERR=NO,RTC=YES,FCOPY=(USE,REL) MOUNT VOL=DB2E* /* FDR also invokes flash copy when use use FDRCOPY to copy a data set. Really fast! Jerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:09:51 -0400, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric, DFDSS should be part of DFSMS. FDR is a pay for. So you should already have it in house. Yes it is there in the libraries that come with z/OS. But it also has to be payed for and enabled (legally) via IFAPRDxx.I know many shops that don't license DFSMSdss. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.9 and IBM1521I S 4.0 Not enough virtual memory is available to continue
What is your region size? Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Third Party Tool Usage
On 9/5/08, Elliot, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try EventAction form http://www.ACTIONSOFTWARE.com/. One of the features of this good product is the ability to track software usage with (almost) zero cpu consumption. Itschak FWIW A situation I have been faced with many times. If the product is contained in its own library and not on the linklist then a security product audit should give the required usage. Also the SMF type 30 record will provide information at least about the lead module executed which should be sufficient to identify usage of the product. Then there are link listed product libraries and the almost inevitable miscellaneous libraries which contain all the stuff the customer didn't know what to do with. (Which of course are always authorized) For these I wrote a CSVLLIX1 exit to write an SMF record for every LOAD etc. I used the information to move active modules to another library. This has proved pretty reliable although I was once deceived by a product which seemed to have its own method of loading programs. Eventually you have to drop the library and see who screams but if it is about money you have right on your side. David Elliot zSeries Software Engineer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacky Bright Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 4:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Third Party Tool Usage We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? As part of cost cutting exercise during MF upgrade we are looking to remove some unused tools so that license fees can be saved for those tools. JAcky -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.9 and IBM1521I S 4.0 Not enough virtual memory is available to continue
now I cannot get PL/I 3.7 to compile. Need more problem details. Pedro Vera -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
But the FC* ANTRQST commands are free... Yes it is there in the libraries that come with z/OS. But it also has to be payed for and enabled (legally) via IFAPRDxx.I know many shops that don't license DFSMSdss. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Need some SMP help.
Not an expert with SMP and I'm trying to do an Apply/Check against the sysmod below and getting the following out of SMP. The XML Toolkit has been received but I can't do an Apply/Check against some of the sysmods. I looked at the PTF in the PTS and sure enough it doesn't have what the SMP report says it doesn't have. Any insight/help in resolving this and where I've gone off the track is appreciated. Thanks. GIM37903E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UA40708 BECAUSE IT HAS NO APPLICABLE ++VER MCS. APPLY FORFMID(HXML190) BYPASS (HOLDSYSTEM(DOC ENH)) SELECT( /* Install selected SYSMOD. */ UA40708 /* Specify SYSMOD name here.*/ )/* */ JCLINREPORT CHECK/* In check mode only. */. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Eric, If you would like to automate the flash and backup process please review the link below. Opentech Systems has automated this process for many of our customers whether you want to process the volumes online or offline with our DASD Backup Supervisor product. http://www.opentechsystems.com/dbs.php Regards, Don Don Bolton Director Technical Services www.OpentechSystems.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy We just installed a new Shark DS8100 with Flashcopy. I was looking for information on setting up an Lpar to copy all of the Flashed disks to tape. We back up all of our DASD every week. We would like to be able to mount the flashed copies in a separate Lpar using the same volsers as the original, and then back them up. I have searched for documentation on setting up Lpars to do just that, and haven't found anything. We want a simple Lpar, if possible using a one pack system. We use Zara for tape management. Eric -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Washington University St Louis, Missouri 314-935-3418 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need some SMP help.
GIM37903E PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD bbb BECAUSE IT HAS NO APPLICABLE ++VER MCS. Explanation: o -- APPLY or ACCEPT o bbb -- SYSMOD ID SMP/E cannot apply or accept the indicated SYSMOD because its ++VER MCS does not specify an FMID-SREL pair that is defined in the target or distribution zone being processed. System Action: SYSMOD processing stops. Programmer Response: Make sure that the SREL on the ++VER MCS matches the SREL in the zone definition entry, and that the FMID on the ++VER MCS matches a function SYSMOD entry in the zone being processed. These are some of the actions you may need to take: o Make sure the SET command specifies the correct zone. o If the FMID was installed in the zone being processed, check whether the ERROR indicator is on. o Install the FMID in the zone being processed. o Add the SREL to the zone definition entry. o Reject the SYSMOD, change it to specify the correct FMID and SREL, and receive it again. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 3:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Need some SMP help. Not an expert with SMP and I'm trying to do an Apply/Check against the sysmod below and getting the following out of SMP. The XML Toolkit has been received but I can't do an Apply/Check against some of the sysmods. I looked at the PTF in the PTS and sure enough it doesn't have what the SMP report says it doesn't have. Any insight/help in resolving this and where I've gone off the track is appreciated. Thanks. GIM37903E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UA40708 BECAUSE IT HAS NO APPLICABLE ++VER MCS. APPLY FORFMID(HXML190) BYPASS (HOLDSYSTEM(DOC ENH)) SELECT( /* Install selected SYSMOD. */ UA40708 /* Specify SYSMOD name here.*/ )/* */ JCLINREPORT CHECK/* In check mode only. */. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need some SMP help.
Hello, the FMID HXML190 has to be applied (not only received) to install this PTF. Howard Rifkind schrieb: The XML Toolkit has been received but I can't do an Apply/Check against some of the sysmods. -- ___ Freundliche Gruesse / Kind regards Dipl.Math. Juergen Kehr, IT Schulung Beratung, IT Education + Consulting Tel. +49-561-9528788 Fax +49-561-9528789 Mobil +49-172-5129389 ICQ 292-318-696 (JKehr) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Saturday, 6 September 2008 2:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy Thanks Greg. I hadn't found that book yet, and am downloading it now. Unfortuneatly, we don't have DFDSS here, only FDR. This book looks like it will help me. Eric Eric, As you are already an FDR user then what you need to do is speak to Innovation and talk to them about their FDRINSTANT option. http://www.innovationdp.fdr.com/products/fdr/fdrinstant.cfm It will do **exactly** what you want. Whole lot easier than having to do what you were thing of doing. Stephen Mednick Computer Supervisory Services Sydney, Australia Asia/Pacific representatives for Innovation Data Processing, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need some SMP help.
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:20:14 -0400, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not an expert with SMP and I'm trying to do an Apply/Check against the sysmod below and getting the following out of SMP. The XML Toolkit has been received but I can't do an Apply/Check against some of the sysmods. I looked at the PTF in the PTS and sure enough it doesn't have what the SMP report says it doesn't have. Any insight/help in resolving this and where I've gone off the track is appreciated. Thanks. GIM37903E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UA40708 BECAUSE IT HAS NO APPLICABLE ++VER MCS. APPLY FORFMID(HXML190) BYPASS (HOLDSYSTEM(DOC ENH)) SELECT( /* Install selected SYSMOD. */ UA40708 /* Specify SYSMOD name here.*/ )/* */ JCLINREPORT CHECK/* In check mode only. */. = You have to apply the function sysmod(s) first or with the PTFs for the FMID. For example: APPLY CHECK SELECT(HXML190) FORFMID(HXML190) PTFS BYPASS (HOLDSYSTEM(DOC ENH)) JCLINREPORT . Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Y2K Leftovers
Wow ! Being a Y2K Project Manager during those troubled times, I remember all the boys and girls' hard team work, and also some jokes that circulated inside the group: One joke was : - Hey, guys : why don't we just take from now on: 8 bytes for the year, 4 for the day and another 4 for the month ? lol ! Rgds, José Rosário Retired Airline Ops Mgr. and Y2K Proj Mgr. On 9/5/08, Patrick Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Size Created Changed 1856 1999/06/10 1900/07/25 19:25:00 1856 was a really good size... Hey - it's Friday, is it not? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Redhat buys Qumranet
http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2008/qumranet.html Redhat runs on zSeries ... what would/could happen if a kvm-ibm.ko appeared from a vendor that happened to know about zSeries ??? Must go find me a Fedora for zed from somewhere... Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: (off topic):Suppressing PCOMM printing request
That was it. I couldn't remember where I wrote it down. Stephen Y Odo wrote: Doug Fuerst wrote: There is a parameter that has to be put in the init file to set printing to no. It will take me a bit to find it. edit your .ws file and add: [LT] IgnoreWCCStartPrint=Y UndefinedCode=Y UndefinedDBCSChar=Y -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.9 and IBM1521I S 4.0 Not enough virtual memory is available to continue
Region = 6m...works on the 1.8 system. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 3:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 1.9 and IBM1521I S 4.0 Not enough virtual memory is available to continue What is your region size? Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Third Party Tool Usage
If one of you 3rd parties is Compuware, they have a built in bit of code.. just ask them.. On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/5/08, Elliot, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try EventAction form http://www.ACTIONSOFTWARE.com/http://www.actionsoftware.com/. One of the features of this good product is the ability to track software usage with (almost) zero cpu consumption. Itschak FWIW A situation I have been faced with many times. If the product is contained in its own library and not on the linklist then a security product audit should give the required usage. Also the SMF type 30 record will provide information at least about the lead module executed which should be sufficient to identify usage of the product. Then there are link listed product libraries and the almost inevitable miscellaneous libraries which contain all the stuff the customer didn't know what to do with. (Which of course are always authorized) For these I wrote a CSVLLIX1 exit to write an SMF record for every LOAD etc. I used the information to move active modules to another library. This has proved pretty reliable although I was once deceived by a product which seemed to have its own method of loading programs. Eventually you have to drop the library and see who screams but if it is about money you have right on your side. David Elliot zSeries Software Engineer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacky Bright Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 4:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Third Party Tool Usage We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? As part of cost cutting exercise during MF upgrade we are looking to remove some unused tools so that license fees can be saved for those tools. JAcky -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- !@@! || ~ War does not determine who is right. War determines who is left. Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need some SMP help.
Not getting someone who knows basic SMP/E to do it? On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:20:14 -0400, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not an expert with SMP and I'm trying to do an Apply/Check against the sysmod below and getting the following out of SMP. Any insight/help in resolving this and where I've gone off the track is appreciated. Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Redhat buys Qumranet
On 9/5/2008 at 6:14 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2008/qumranet.html Redhat runs on zSeries ... what would/could happen if a kvm-ibm.ko appeared from a vendor that happened to know about zSeries ??? As might be expected, all the KVM work for System z is being done by IBM's developers, mainly in Boeblingen. It will be a while before it's usable on any platform, let alone System z. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ACS Write Statement Limitations
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:58:01 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I empathize that you would like to write a novella to explain why it did not work, but then they won't need to call for help so that line could be removed. When faced with a limitation on what you can write out, use the IBM example - write your brief it failed call us mesage, followed by your own internal message id and fields you need to decipher why it failed and explain it when they call. Just look at an IOS* message for an example. And remember it takes time to process all that lengthy code your acs routines will be running through, slowing down your processor from doing real work. On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:51:09 -0400, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the DFSMS manual I am only allowed 110 characters. If it hurts, don't do it. :-) What's wrong with something like this: WRITE '** DATA SET DOES NOT CONFORM TO SYSTEM STANDARDS.' + '** CONTACT STORAGE MGMT IF NEEDED' They should already know the allocation failed by the IGD* messages. Mark -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy
Thanks to all that replied. Since I got home, and looked at a bunch of emails, I'll just reply to this one. Don - I put in a request on your internet site for more information. I'll also call FDR and get info on their product. I suspect that unless these products are really inexpensive that we won't get either one. One of the things that no one picked up on, in my original post quoted below, I wanted some help with setting up the Lpar to do this. I have questions about what needs to be in the system. My boss wants a 1 pack system. We run a basic sysplex in ring mode with only 2 lpars since we don't have a coupling facility or processor, and definitely don't want to spend the money for one. I know I would need Zara, our tape manager, and I would need access to the catalog that the output tapes are created on. I've built RESCUE systems before, and still have my JCL, but those systems were mostly for IPLing and correcting parmlib members, etc. I didn't even have a tape management system on it. Any concerns for building this type of system would be appreciated. Eric On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:24:44 -0500, Don Bolton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric, If you would like to automate the flash and backup process please review the link below. Opentech Systems has automated this process for many of our customers whether you want to process the volumes online or offline with our DASD Backup Supervisor product. http://www.opentechsystems.com/dbs.php Regards, Don Don Bolton Director Technical Services www.OpentechSystems.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Info on Setting Up an Lpar for Flashcopy We just installed a new Shark DS8100 with Flashcopy. I was looking for information on setting up an Lpar to copy all of the Flashed disks to tape. We back up all of our DASD every week. We would like to be able to mount the flashed copies in a separate Lpar using the same volsers as the original, and then back them up. I have searched for documentation on setting up Lpars to do just that, and haven't found anything. We want a simple Lpar, if possible using a one pack system. We use Zara for tape management. Eric -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Washington University St Louis, Missouri 314-935-3418 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ACS Write Statement Limitations
And remember it takes time to process all that lengthy code your acs routines will be running through, slowing down your processor from doing real work. The cost for doing this is a lot less than people believe. Stupid coding is still a problem; normal coding doesn't cost that much. Also, remember productivity (the reason we have computers) is a lot more important than worrying about one (or two) extra lines of messages. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX GIMAPI Interface / CBT778
All you need to do is know how to present what you find. I reported GIMASAMP returns incorrect output as a SEV(4). Don't make a big deal out of a sample not working and IBM will listen. Level 2 tested the code with and without my corrections and understood it really is broken and I was not looking to sneak in an enhancement. They contacted the developers who were more than willing to listen and I was asked did I want an APAR or could it be fixed in the next release. It has likely been broken since the day it was released so I was reasonable and closed the ETR with the understanding it will be fixed in the next release. Since DB2 9 is current, it might be a few years before the sample is fixed. But then it was broken for so long, I can wait. I would think no one else brought it IBM's attention so how urgent is it, really! I also submit requests to fix documentation and get responses. Submitting requests following the proper procedure does work. Low priority changes might take a few months, but IBM does listen and act. They just have to prioritize what they can get done with the resources they have. And I always consider if it has been broken for years then it can get fixed in the next release. Even samples and examples in manuals can be corrected if they are wrong. If the text is not clear then submit your comment as the manual describes. I offered a local non-USA phrase in the manual was not clear and offered a more generic way of explaining some material. They agreed. On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:06:12 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few questions: o Does IBM accept APARs on SAMPLIB members? Many (though not GIMAPI) bear an as-is disclaimer. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Y2K Leftovers
I wasn't joking when I jumped over Y2K and went to Y10K, it has not caught on, but today is 09/05/02008. Why is everyone waiting? On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:41:01 +0100, Jose Rosario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow ! Being a Y2K Project Manager during those troubled times, I remember all the boys and girls' hard team work, and also some jokes that circulated inside the group: One joke was : - Hey, guys : why don't we just take from now on: 8 bytes for the year, 4 for the day and another 4 for the month ? lol ! Rgds, José Rosário Retired Airline Ops Mgr. and Y2K Proj Mgr. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX GIMAPI Interface / CBT778
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 21:20:13 -0500, Kenneth E Tomiak wrote: All you need to do is know how to present what you find. I reported GIMASAMP returns incorrect output as a SEV(4). Don't make a big deal out of a sample not working and IBM will listen. Level 2 tested the code with and without my corrections and understood it really is broken and I was not looking to sneak in an enhancement. They contacted the developers who were more than willing to listen and I was asked did I want an APAR or could it be fixed in the next release. It has likely been broken since the day it was released so I was reasonable and closed the ETR with the understanding it will be fixed in the next release. Since DB2 9 is current, it might be a few years before the sample is fixed. But then it was broken for so long, I can wait. I would think no one else brought it IBM's attention so how urgent is it, really! SMP/E is good that way. I once reported a problem SEV4. They supplied a PTF within 3 weeks. It was a message inconsistency, and I had expected them to modify the message, which I would have found satisfactory. In fact, they changed the code to recover from a plausible user error. I also submit requests to fix documentation and get responses. Submitting requests following the proper procedure does work. Low priority changes might take a few months, but IBM does listen and act. They just have to prioritize what they can get done with the resources they have. And I always consider if it has been broken for years then it can get fixed in the next release. My experience also with SMP/E. In contrast to JCL and TSO, which will call just about anything WAD and change the documentation. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Browsing an ASCII file
Mark Zelden wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:30:55 +1000, Greg Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now all we need is support for ZIP archives. We or Review? ;-) We already have it with Java - which is free. Sorry - I wasn't clear. I meant the ISPF Browse (nice) and ISPF Edit (even nicer) support for processing files within a ZIP archive. But, probably no business case You can already browse zipped data with REVIEW (plus util) online, and copy some or all unzipped records to a data set. That's free also. :) Cheers, Greg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Compression figures, anyone?
Paul Gillis wrote: Greg, I used to get about 80% when zipping SMF data, haven't done that for a while and never considered the CPU cost as I had to get the data under 2Gb. The reasons are now obsolete. The zip engine I used on MVS was ISPZIP from ASE. I may still have the performance numbers somewhere. Cheers, Paul Gillis Hi Paul, Yes, I've seen that software used to great effect for years, also. And I see that Scott has posted about the advantages of zipping SMF data. All great stuff, and I concur completely. What I was really fishing for was user experiences with using DFSMS compressed extended-format sequential data sets. And if that doesn't trigger a response, perhaps we can start a thread about compressable (as I recall seeing in an IBM manual) vs compressible (the spelling a spell-checker (MSWord?) okays). As I may have said, I would expect the latest and greatest z hardware to be able to deliver compression ratios comparable to zipping in only a fraction of the CPU time. Maybe the CPU time aspect is hard to measure, and I don't think zipping is that much of an expensive process anyway, but I _am_ hoping that someone can report of the level of compression being achieved. If I tell people that using compressable extended-format is a superior solution to zipping files in terms of overall computer resources (with disk space being a large part of that), am I telling fibs? Cheers, Greg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.9 and IBM1521I S 4.0 Not enough virtual memory is available to continue
Try REGION=0M On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Lopez, Sharon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Region = 6m...works on the 1.8 system. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 3:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 1.9 and IBM1521I S 4.0 Not enough virtual memory is available to continue What is your region size? Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- --- Timothy McCluskey System Z Information Technology Consultant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
