On 9/15/2013 10:22 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
If there's a useful reason PDSEs ... ought to be available earlier in the z/OS
IPL sequence, let IBM know through the appropriate channels.
This is a well-known requirement. It is embarrassingly restrictive that
LPALSTxx cannot reference a PDSE.
On 9/16/2013 2:19 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
At
least this would do away with the need for every developer to roll
his/her own solution.
While NIP processing has changed a bit since OS/360, there always has
been a LINK to IEEVIPL. We've hijacked that to initialize local security
(pre-RACF) and
Hi ,
On the HMC , is there a way where I can change the number of processors
allocated , either dedicated or not dedicated, to a particular LPAR without
having to deactivate and activate?
The Change Logical Partition Control function only allows Processor Weightage
to be changed.
Thanks in
Almost a year ago in
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/bad_data_and_the_subjunctive_mood?lang=en
I talked about seeing large numbers for memory in MSTJCL00.
At the time I got no takers as to what it could be. So I'm trying again
here...
... Is MSTJCL00 the
There are some rubbish or at least highly misleading numbers being tossed
about (again), it pains me to say. (Cache? I/O proximity? Etc.) Space
rockets and Ferraris are both transportation vehicles, but are they really
comparable? Maybe if you're writing marketing copy, but not so much
otherwise.
W dniu 2013-09-16 11:54, SrinivasG pisze:
Hi ,
On the HMC , is there a way where I can change the number of processors
allocated , either dedicated or not dedicated, to a particular LPAR without
having to deactivate and activate?
The Change Logical Partition Control function only allows
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:41:33 -0400, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
I guess I must be the only person in the world using these two programs.
Strange. I originally got them off of the old z/OS CD and then DVD manual
sets, I think.
Perhaps when z/OS 2.1 goes GA the end of the month they will
In 1379294188.27327.yahoomail...@web181001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on
09/15/2013
at 06:16 PM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net said:
Comparing MIPS (or BIPS) for different platforms is useless where
instruction sets are so diverse.
Meaningless Indicator of Processor Speed
On the intel, 128
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 09:13:39 -0500, Chip Grantham wrote:
I've finally taken the time to try to understand the numbers behind the way
EAVs were implemented. I found a great discussion in the redbook z/OS v1.12
Implimentation SG24-7853-00 manual, chapter 20. Any time spend you happen
to spend
Thanks.
IBM only updates the online collection when they issue new CDs/DVDs for a new
release of an operating system.
That was kind of the theory I was developing in my mind. Better than IBM has
abandoned the thing entirely. Only two more weeks.
Charles
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From:
On 16/09/2013 7:31 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
There are some rubbish or at least highly misleading numbers being tossed
about (again), it pains me to say. (Cache? I/O proximity? Etc.) Space
rockets and Ferraris are both transportation vehicles, but are they really
comparable? Maybe if you're
If you have reserved processors in the activation profile for that LPAR they
can be added dynamically.
IIRC, however, to change the number of reserved processors will require a
deactivate/activate for that LPAR.
HTH,
snip
On the HMC , is there a way where I can change the number of
On 9/16/2013 6:08 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
Thanks.
IBM only updates the online collection when they issue new CDs/DVDs for a new
release of an operating system.
That was kind of the theory I was developing in my mind. Better than IBM has
abandoned the thing entirely. Only two more weeks.
General thoughts with no hard data behind them. I.E. SWAGs
1) MSTJCL00 (i.e. *MASTER*) has been flagged by WLM as Storage Critical. Check
w/WLM development.
2) Turn on the VSM* parameters in SYS1.PARMLIB(DIAG*) for data gathering. View
w/IPCS and/or RMF.
Not sure what (if any) RSM*
Though I thought I had heard a year ago, no more CDs/DVDs.
At Share in 2012 I thought they said the z/OS V1.13 DVDs were the last ones to
be produced.
Though I could have not heard that correctly.
Lizette
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Address space resource managers execute in asid 1, *MASTER*. Unless they
issue a message, you would never know they executed. If an ASCB RESMGR were
not cleaning up after itself, it would account for accumulations.
Kenneth
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Thank you. Care to name a few - not to point the finger, but so I have
some idea what they are?
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM
+44-7802-245-584
email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
Twitter / Facebook IDs:
A final reminder that the next Hillgang user group meeting will be held this
Wednesday at the CA Offices in Herndon Virginia. The agenda and abstracts
may be found at http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/HILL0913.PDF
The agenda includes:
- Nationwide¹s Private Cloud Journey - Brian Callaghan, AVP IT
Martin Packer wrote:
Almost a year ago in
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/bad_data_and_the_subjunctive_mood?lang=en
I talked about seeing large numbers for memory in MSTJCL00.
On what are you graph on that web page based? From what memory areas are those
While Gerhard's suggestion of an exit has the merit of being (probably)
easier to get IBM to implement, I much prefer Ed's suggestion of a PARMLIB
member. That is much easier to review, implement and maintain down here
in the trenches.
Cheers,,,Steve
Steven F. Conway, CISSP
LA Systems
z/OS
I seem to recall that common/shared memory objects are associated with the RASP
address space rather than *MASTER*.
There are a non-trivial amount of ISV software products that squirrel stuff
away in ASID(1) off existing TCBs and some even go so far as to schedule an IRB
over to ASID(1) and
I still have an IBM 1403 carriage control tape punch. Makes a good paperweight
for all the AFP pubs. I use the carriage tapes as props when teaching Intro to
AFP.
I used to rent time on a 360-40. The 2821 controller was worth more than the
rest of the system because it was still used to drive
Good questions. To try and answer them...
1) Type 30 memory usage - not virtual.
2) I used to not see MSTJCL00 show up as a significant memory item
compared to, say, System Logger. Now I see it sometimes over 1GB.
3) I don't know what these 2 customers have done but I vaguely recall the
shmuel+...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
If the count is exactly 258 the the loop is a single MOV with a repeat
prefix. You need additional instructions if you don't know the length
to be a multiple of 8.
But your point remains valid, and is stronger if you look at the long
Morning Skip-
That was my post. I was asking what objectives were trying to be
accomplished. It should have been
Business Objectives. My thoughts were along your same lines. In
particular, most sites NEED to segregate
Data according to Prod vs. non-Prod. Your single-console is a good reason;
The zOS, zVSE, and zVM softcopy collections still exist but ONLY in electronic
form. Download them from the IBM Publications Center
http://www-05.ibm.com/e-business/linkweb/publications/servlet/pbi.wss.
Kevin Minerley
--
For
The DS8### series allocates devices in multiples of 1113 Cylinders. Beyond
65520 cylinders, all EAV volumes are multiple of 1113 cylinders. The EAV
portion is allocated in 21 cylinder amounts, with 53 groups of 21 cylinders
per 1113 cylinders.
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:57 AM, John Chase
I was looking a the PDFs for z/OS 2.1 and saw:
SA23-2247-00 OSA-ICC 3215
Support2.33http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/ioa2sp00.pdf
And, being the retro idiot that I am, thought it might be interesting. I
know that OSA-ICC can basically present a local non-SNA 3270 controller to
z/OS for use
:)
Maybe this gets their attention back? (hopefully few of the list usual readers
also:)
Been reading a bit on the subject, and one detail caught my eye...
... NSA is pushing ecliptic curves since 2009 as the next best thing (guess
why;)
W dniu 2013-09-16 16:54, John McKown pisze:
I was looking a the PDFs for z/OS 2.1 and saw:
SA23-2247-00 OSA-ICC 3215
Support2.33http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/ioa2sp00.pdf
And, being the retro idiot that I am, thought it might be interesting. I
know that OSA-ICC can basically present a
Hi!
We've got a scenario where we should do a backup of some data to data sets and
after succesful backup send the previous copy to ML2 (so we've got only the
latest on DASD).
Since there are multiple backup jobs, we've tried to send a TSO command (via
IKJEFT01 in the jobs) to HMIGRATE the
On 16 September 2013 11:36, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
Kevin is right. All of the COBOL 5.1 publications are available for
downloading at the IBM Publications website.
Thus, for example, the new Language Reference, SC4-7381-00, and the
new Programming Guide, SC4-7382-00, are
Kevin is right. All of the COBOL 5.1 publications are available for
downloading at the IBM Publications website.
Thus, for example, the new Language Reference, SC4-7381-00, and the
new Programming Guide, SC4-7382-00, are both available.
Unfortunately, however, they are available there ONLY as
On 2013-09-14 10:37, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
What access methods and DSORGs can we expect to see supported?
Again all new? Or considerable compatibility with existing art?
UNIX filesystems? PDSE?
What release target?
-- gil
FBA Services are intended to allow a FBA device to be updated by
On 9/16/2013 9:17 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote:
FBA Services are intended to allow a FBA device to be updated by both
z/OS and other platforms. The API (IOSFBA) is all new, and is in no
way related to the access methods we all know and love. Forget all
about data sets, VTOCs, cylinders, and so on.
HSM places requests on an MWE, this is single threaded. So not sure you can
get around this process.
But I am curious why you are using HSM in this manner. Are you issuing BACKDS
and MIGRATE commands in your TSO Batch Job stream? If so, how long have you
been doing it this way? What
Exactly.
Charles
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Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Looking for COBOL V5R1 Softcopy Librarian docs
On 16 September 2013
ip4w...@gmail.com (J.P.) writes:
Maybe this gets their attention back? (hopefully few of the list usual
readers also:)
Been reading a bit on the subject, and one detail caught my eye...
... NSA is pushing ecliptic curves since 2009 as the next best thing (guess
why;)
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:17:33 -0400, Gord Tomlin wrote:
FBA Services are intended to allow a FBA device to be updated by both
z/OS and other platforms. The API (IOSFBA) is all new, and is in no way
related to the access methods we all know and love. Forget all about
data sets, VTOCs, cylinders,
On 9/16/2013 10:11 AM, Steve Conway wrote:
While Gerhard's suggestion of an exit has the merit of being (probably)
easier to get IBM to implement, I much prefer Ed's suggestion of a PARMLIB
member. That is much easier to review, implement and maintain down here
in the trenches.
Unless the
1) As pointed out, Softcopy Library (SCL) can handle PDFS
2) As for indexing all the base zOS elements, many of the zVSE, and zVM
will have indexed PDFs
and an associated extended (XKS) shelf. We have instituted a request to
other non-base products to consider
PDF indexing; but that is a
ISTR reading in the fine manual that command activities (specifically migrate
and backup) are single threaded...IOW BAD
I believe command recall is an exception to the above.
HTH,
snip
We've got a scenario where we should do a backup of some data to data sets and
after succesful backup send
On 9/16/2013 10:37 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Where I see such as:
create new devices of TYPE=FBA attached to this control unit. Given that
these
devices are defined as Unit Record devices, they cannot be shared among
users on
a single system.
Right. There is no such thing as
On 9/16/2013 11:01 AM, Peter Relson wrote:
I guess Ed was asleep during that TDM session in Poughkeepsie grin
z/OS 1.11 provided support for what I called deferred LPA. This was
possibly not documented until 1.12. But it's definitely in the z/OS 1.11
CSVDYLPA.
This is dynamic LPA done at the
At the very least, there should be a parmlib member with a list of data
sets, analogous to LPALSTxx (LPADYNxx?), that the system will use to
automatically populate dynamic LPA during system initialization at the
earliest possible opportunity after PDSE support becomes active. At
least this
On 9/16/2013 1:26 PM, Steve Conway wrote:
Limited use is exactly what is under discussion, based on the original
point of LPA not allowing PDSE data sets All the PARMLIB member needs to
do is provide a list of PDSE datasets to be loaded into LPA.
For me that's too limited; if NIP is to read
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:13:56 -0500, David Speake david.spe...@bcbssc.com
wrote:
Can multiple user line commands be passed to ISREDIT on the same ENTER
Sorry, I didn't read your entire post carefully and missed that you were
trying to
use 2 different line commands at the same time. I
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 08:27:53 -0500, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org wrote:
Just to be precise, the ISO standard for dates is more than just order.
If punctuation is used, the standard requires -, not /, as in:
-mm-dd
Good catch. I changed my IPLINFO exec years ago to use the ISO 8601
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:10:08 +0200, Jan Vanbrabant wrote:
Hi listers,
The base IOS apar
OA41040 has been closed.
It contains now:
...
*V1R13 SA22-7608 MVS Programming Authorized Assembler Services
*Guide
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/IOSFBASC_113.pdf
*Chapter 32. z/OS
Softcopy Librarian is pretty damn easy.
While I prefer Bookmanager to PDF for navigation and search, I can live with
PDF.
But, I really don't like the idea of building my own shelves and I certainly am
not interested in significantly increasing my time to download individual
products.
A nice
Hi, Gerhard,
Limited use is exactly what is under discussion, based on the original
point of LPA not allowing PDSE data sets All the PARMLIB member needs to
do is provide a list of PDSE datasets to be loaded into LPA.
If you want to do more than that, sure, an exit is ideal. This is more
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:13:56 -0500, David Speake david.spe...@bcbssc.com
wrote:
I recently ran across this thread and am trying to create a few line commands
in native mode
under z/OS 01.13.00. Did not EVEN know that LMAC existed. I cannot get DT
(Delete from
command to top) and DB (Delete
On 16 September 2013 10:54, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:
I was looking a the PDFs for z/OS 2.1 and saw:
SA23-2247-00 OSA-ICC 3215
Support2.33http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/ioa2sp00.pdf
And, being the retro idiot that I am, thought it might be interesting. I
know
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#55 NSA foils much internet encryption
other trivia ... ECC original invented Miller at IBM Yorktown
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_S._Miller
followed by Koblitz at UofW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Koblitz
Miller had been in the Yorktown 801
On 16 September 2013 12:45, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote:
) As pointed out, Softcopy Library (SCL) can handle PDFS
2) As for indexing all the base zOS elements, many of the zVSE, and zVM
will have indexed PDFs
and an associated extended (XKS) shelf. We have instituted a
Unlike many of you, I keep copies, as PDFs, of only the manuals I
access very frequently. They are now so readily available and so easy
to download that I do not keep, for example IMS manuals, which I look
at only infrequently.
Others will of course have different usage/reference patterns.
I
On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:22 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
Ed Gould asks:
What is the cost benefit to do the conversion?
I guess you missed what I wrote about improved code efficiency.
Another big
benefit for many/most shops is significant constraint relief for
each and
every data division
The the implications of the post by J.P. are entirely correct; but the
post itself is---I don't mean this pejoratively---a little naif.
The NSA cannot be expected to advocate the use of an encryption scheme
that it has not already broken, and this behavior does not seem to me
to be villainous.
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:10:08 +0200, Jan Vanbrabant wrote:
Hi listers,
The base IOS apar
OA41040 has been closed.
It contains now:
...
*V1R13 SA22-7608 MVS Programming Authorized Assembler Services
*Guide
Martin:
Can you get your customer to enabled RMF VSTORE for that JOBNAME to populate
the extensive
virtual storage allocations and usage data that will then be written in RMF
ID=78s?
We only see 13M in our system so it's not worth us to enabling to see if we
could
find clues to help you.
On 16 September 2013 16:04, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com wrote:
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#55 NSA foils much internet encryption
other trivia ... ECC original invented Miller at IBM Yorktown
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_S._Miller
followed by Koblitz at UofW
Martin, how about Dataspaces? *MASTER* does own quite a few of them!! One
of our systems currently has 1.2Gb lodged against MASTER, which whilst not
quite 2Gb, is 'up there' compared to most other LPARs in the plex.
On that LPAR, CSM64001 accounts for 190k frames of REAL, which is best part
of
Defining something as a unit-record device is an old trick, used to
provide minimal, early, ad interim support for its use.
No one need to get his undies in knots about (or draw cosmic
conclusions from) this.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
On 9/16/2013 3:04 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
That sounds like Virtual Tape Libraries and not AIX or Linux disk file
systems.
I'm pretty sure the support is intended to access ordinary FBA disk
files and has nothing whatsoever to do with tape.
Is there even such a thing as FBA tape?
--
Edward E
Hi listers,
The base IOS apar
OA41040 has been closed.
It contains now:
*V1R13 GA23-0854 z/OS MVS Data Areas, Volume 2
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/IOSDFBA_113.pdf
*V1R13 GA32-0855 z/OS MVS Data Areas, Volume 3
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/IOSDIOST_113.pdf
*V1R13
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:41:33 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 9/16/2013 3:04 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
That sounds like Virtual Tape Libraries and not AIX or Linux disk file
systems.
I'm pretty sure the support is intended to access ordinary FBA disk
files and has nothing whatsoever to do with tape.
Is
HFS UNIX filesystems are supported in the OMVS address space itself. zFS
filesystems are supported in a colony address space called ZFS. Why not
support another filesystem type, allocated on the unit record FBA device,
in another colony address space? Perhaps even a z/Linux formatted
filesystem
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:48:55 -0500, John McKown wrote:
HFS UNIX filesystems are supported in the OMVS address space itself. zFS
filesystems are supported in a colony address space called ZFS. Why not
support another filesystem type, allocated on the unit record FBA device,
in another colony
traditional British dd/mm/yy?
Surely you meant to say almost all of the rest of the world...
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That has been true for as long as I can remember. Why? You said that you
wanted DD with certain characteristics. SVC 99, in an attempt to be
efficient, will use an existing allocation where ever possible. There is
not any kind of count associated with a DD which contains number of times
allocated.
Ron Hawkins wrote:
Surely you meant to say almost all of the rest of the world...
I meant something a little more restrictive, to wit the regions that
used to be [and in some measure still are] colo[u]red pink on world
maps. None of my Pakistani friends of course thinks of him/herself as
a
I was not arguing against a built-in timing solution, merely pointing out
that even a single-CEC shop can derive benefit from STP. OTOH the
underlying cost of a free lunch surely gets baked in somewhere. Maybe a
coin-operated restroom stall...
.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison
Personally, unless I am doing an internal email, I use the ISO date format.
There should be no chance of accidental misunderstanding. Of course, some
may ask what weird date is that? in which case I can explain. On my
checks, I use dd mon . Again, no confusion and it is intuitively
obvious
I'd like to draw your attention to another very recent COBOL innovation,
the IBM COBOL Binary Optimizer for z/OS. This experimental tool is
available here:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/groups/community/BinaryOptimizer
Unlike Enterprise COBOL 5.1, the COBOL Binary Optimizer is not
Ok. Thanks for the replies. Looks like I have no choice but to
deactivate/activate.
Regards,
Srinivas G
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Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:17 PM
To:
On 9/16/2013 9:47 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
I meant something a little more restrictive, to wit the regions that
used to be [and in some measure still are] colo[u]red pink on world
maps.
The problem is worse than just regional. My last time in Halifax, we
shopped at a mall for books, candy, and
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