Re: RACF question

2012-07-07 Thread John McKown
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Re: Creating a GDG Base with NOSCRATCH in an SMS pool

2012-08-21 Thread John McKown
Yes and no.:-) With SMS, when you use NOSCRATCH, the GDS data set is rolled off the GDG and, instead of becoming uncatalogued, the GDS entry becomes a normal non-VSAM entry. This means that it can only be referenced by GOOVOO number, not via relative GDG number. And is not accessable via GDG-all

Re: Creating a GDG Base with NOSCRATCH in an SMS pool

2012-08-21 Thread John McKown
On Aug 21, 2012 7:11 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: So, if I run a scan on my Pool with DFDSS with CATLG EQ NO, and I find lots of files, they are probably uncataloged in the SMS pool. I think that's true. If I use option 3.4 on the GDG Base and turn up NO dataset

Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-09-01 Thread John McKown
IIRC, both C and PL/I use the same back end code generator, while COBOL does its own thing. That may be why COBOL seems to stay behind them. On Sep 1, 2012 2:49 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed. The lack of improvements for EC12 may simply reflect where the COBOL folks are in their

Re: iSeries

2012-09-03 Thread John McKown
What about an ad which would say For a restful night's sleep, get an IBM iSeries . Meaning that companies can depend on an iSeries to run reliably at all times' vice a Wintel solution. OK , not likely. On Sep 3, 2012 12:21 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Two identical tradenames do

Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-09 Thread John McKown
, the DFSORT manual seems to say that it does. If you noticed from previous messages, IT management is anti-z/OS so they basically just don't work to be bothered with it. Like because MS-Windows is such a POS that they need to concentrate on it. Makes me wonder why they adore it. -- John McKown

Re: z/OS SYSLOG - why not let everybody read?

2012-09-23 Thread John McKown
. PEBKAC. Now that you mention it, I may use a CA-OPS/MVS rule to blank out portions of the ICH408I messages. Say in the USER(...), GROUP(...) and NAME(...) portions. I don't use them anyway. I use the SMF records. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group

Re: z/OS SYSLOG - why not let everybody read?

2012-09-23 Thread John McKown
understand. - Chinese Proverb On Sep 23, 2012, at 12:38 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Took the easy way out. Superseded all ICH408I messages from SYSLOG which have USER( at the front of word two. I see no need for them. We use SMF records for reporting. On Sep 18, 2012

Re: Strange PDS members

2012-10-12 Thread John McKown
ISPF option 3.3 can copy to a new PDS and unpack as it copies. It's an option on the panel. On Oct 12, 2012 5:34 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: Okay, I looked at the Dataset for PACK (DUH!!). You are correct PACK ON is on the individual member. So now, is there a way to

Re: Weird Metal C problem

2012-10-28 Thread John McKown
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Re: CPU service unit for JOB

2012-10-31 Thread John McKown
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Re: PACKRAT is back for z/OS

2012-11-06 Thread John McKown
Thanks. I may take a look at that to see if I can port it to a z/OS UNIX command. Given my predilections, it will likely be line mode out to stdout. On Nov 6, 2012 9:20 PM, Sam Golob sbgo...@cbttape.org wrote: Hi Folks, If you ever wondered what happened to the wonderful PACKRAT fullscreen

Re: .netrc on zLinux - FTP to zos

2012-11-08 Thread John McKown
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Re: 26.4.2 JCL DD statement parameters and equivalent text units

2012-11-09 Thread John McKown
I think the table is on the next page, topic 26.4.3. Perhaps an RCF to rephrase this table to the table on the next page is needed. Perhaps topic 26.4.3 used to be on the same physical page in the dead tree version. I haven,t looked in the PDF because I currently lying in bed using my tablet. On

Re: Test

2012-11-09 Thread John McKown
Not normally. If u want to' then you must send email to mail to:lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message SET REPRO ON in the body, with nothing else in it. Try to suppress that Sig at the bottom of ur email if at all possible. On Nov 9, 2012 3:17 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-25 Thread John McKown
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Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-09-26 Thread John McKown
Ada is PL/I trying to be Smalltalk. -- Codoso diBlini And a few other amusing quotes. http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~ravenben/humor/csfunny To lighten up the atmosphere from some of the recent OT messages. -- I have _not_ lost my mind! It is backed up on a flash drive somewhere. Maranatha! John

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-09-29 Thread John McKown
AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: Ada is PL/I trying to be Smalltalk. -- Codoso diBlini Actually Ada comes from the Pascal tradition and is quite at variance with PL/I. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-01 Thread John McKown
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Re: SDK for z/OS

2013-10-02 Thread John McKown
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Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-03 Thread John McKown
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Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-03 Thread John McKown
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Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-03 Thread John McKown
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OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread John McKown
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Re: Is the zVM list defunct?

2013-10-04 Thread John McKown
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Re: Performanxe Of BPX1GHN (WAS NSLOOKUP MVS vs OMVS)

2013-10-06 Thread John McKown
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Re: belonging

2013-10-07 Thread John McKown
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Re: LISTSERV (was: Embedded two-byte ...)

2013-10-07 Thread John McKown
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Re: JCL Symbol Resolution

2013-10-07 Thread John McKown
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Re: SYSIN Symbol Resolution vs. LRECL

2013-10-11 Thread John McKown
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Re: flow of STOP command for BPXBATCH

2013-10-14 Thread John McKown
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Re: How FTP server assigns DCB attributes

2013-10-14 Thread John McKown
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Re: IC988I messages issued by CA-SPOOL

2013-10-15 Thread John McKown
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Re: Copy from one Dir to another

2013-10-15 Thread John McKown
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Pretty decent article: How to develop unmaintainable software

2013-10-16 Thread John McKown
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Re: OT - from June, an article on how fantastic healthcare.gov is

2013-10-16 Thread John McKown
I agree. This should likely end now, before it becomes a flame war which has nothing to do with computers at all. Instead, let's all agree that MS Windows stinks like a 5 day dead corpse and have a brew (not mentioning which because I don't want a multi-way war between the U.S., Britain, Germany,

Re: Copy from one Dir to another

2013-10-16 Thread John McKown
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Re: Explanation of S0C4 reason 4

2013-10-17 Thread John McKown
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OT: Flossie ICT 1301 being rescued.

2013-10-18 Thread John McKown
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Re: z/OS IPL Issue

2013-10-21 Thread John McKown
Everybody chant: XML! XML! XML! Ouch, don't hit! grin/. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.comwrote: My favorite hot button is itching...The underlying problem here is one I've trotted out during several user sessions at SHARE: the various members of

John Dvorak explains why the z is doomed (indirectly)

2013-10-22 Thread John McKown
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Re: John Dvorak explains why the z is doomed (indirectly)

2013-10-22 Thread John McKown
And, for the true techies (bit twiddlers), there were PLM manuals which explained the internals and also actual, real, live SOURCE CODE to study and try to understand. Which is why I'm a Linux/*BSD bigot these days. On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.comwrote:

Re: John Dvorak explains why the z is doomed (indirectly)

2013-10-22 Thread John McKown
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Re: John Dvorak explains why the z is doomed (indirectly)

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Re: old manuals

2013-10-23 Thread John McKown
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Re: z/OS IPL Issue

2013-10-23 Thread John McKown
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Re: z/OS IPL Issue

2013-10-24 Thread John McKown
complete in a reasonable time. Which I why I prefer to do the IPLs. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Thomas Conley pinnc...@rochester.rr.comwrote: On 10/23/2013 3:47 PM, John McKown wrote: Curiosity question: Why do you need multiple remote I3270C sessions per LPAR? If we ever go to z/OS 2.1

Re: Is there currently a way to access MongoDB from z/OS LE languages?

2013-10-24 Thread John McKown
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Re: GDG question

2013-10-25 Thread John McKown
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Re: Getting the SMF time

2013-10-25 Thread John McKown
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OT: From UNIX fortune command, too good not to share

2013-10-25 Thread John McKown
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Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-10-26 Thread John McKown
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Re: z/OS IPL Issue

2013-10-26 Thread John McKown
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Re: SQLite for MVS? (was MongoDB)

2013-10-26 Thread John McKown
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Re: z/OS IPL Issue

2013-10-27 Thread John McKown
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In caajsdjilg3pg1p41eh5pqyjl5-2ex6yc3q5u2lz44_gga33...@mail.gmail.com, on 10/26/2013 at 07:45 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: The PC (actually 3 of them) even has the old IBM

Re: Language development cycle (Perl)

2013-10-28 Thread John McKown
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Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-28 Thread John McKown
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Re: IBM Manual Access Issues

2013-10-28 Thread John McKown
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Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-28 Thread John McKown
an exception should be thrown. OTOH, we could simply do the political thing and continue to punt the problem down the time stream, using ad-hoc solutions in the present. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:26:31 -0500, John McKown

IBM pubs site back

2013-10-28 Thread John McKown
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Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-28 Thread John McKown
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Re: Access to IBM Z/OS z/VM Documentation

2013-10-28 Thread John McKown
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Re: zIIP simulation

2013-10-29 Thread John McKown
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Interesting? How _compilers_ are compromising application security

2013-10-30 Thread John McKown
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Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-30 Thread John McKown
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Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-30 Thread John McKown
AM, John McKown wrote: Being a Linux bigot (only use Windows at work), I am wondering if there is any documentation on SPFPRO or other ISPF-like environments. In particular, do these products emulate all of ISPF or only the ISPF editor? Can the editor run macros? If so, only REXX or can it use

Re: FACILITY Class profile BPX.DEFAULT.USER in zOS 2.1

2013-10-30 Thread John McKown
help, but it's a catch 22. BTW, this issue does affect ACF2 and Top Secret as well. Mark -- -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread John McKown
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Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread John McKown
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Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread John McKown
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Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-07 Thread John McKown
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Re: JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-09 Thread John McKown
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Re: JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-09 Thread John McKown
in (batch) TSO (e.g. PGM=IKJEFT01 or IKJEFT1A or IKJEFT1B). As such it falls prey to the problem that John McKown describes in his reply in this thread. Additionally it has other deficiencies that make it unacceptable, on the other hand the good news is that this capability already exists

Re: JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-10 Thread John McKown
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Re: JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-10 Thread John McKown
to the source that SMP/E uses standard BPAM for most of its functions. There is no documentation in the DFSMS manuals about not using any hex value, other than 8x'FF', as a member name. snip Snip John McKown John, I judge you to be someone who can see both classic z/OS and new Linux/Unix

Re: JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-10 Thread John McKown
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Re: APF in JCL step

2013-11-11 Thread John McKown
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Re: APF in JCL step

2013-11-11 Thread John McKown
(ATTACH, INTRDR, etc.) must also be tightly controlled. Any process which creates such a process which creates... ad infinitum. Bill Fairchild -- Another case of too many mad scientists and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! John McKown

Re: APF in JCL step

2013-11-11 Thread John McKown
. And, if you are trying to subvert procedures, ask yourself In this economy, is this worth my job?. Lizette This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM

Re: SNMP V3 Replacement?

2013-11-15 Thread John McKown
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Re: Extents limit for HFS

2013-11-21 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.plwrote: W dniu 2013-11-21 18:11, John Gilmore pisze: Why the magic number of 123 extents per volume? 127 is more plausible. What else is going on here? Well. Why 59 volumes per volume, why 140 bytes per VTOC records?

Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread John McKown
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Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp

2013-11-22 Thread John McKown
. :) Thanks Robin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: 22 November 2013 20:14 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Getting a VSAM data set's system timestamp One possibility, which is not simply by any

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-25 Thread John McKown
is, not the user. That's the *ix philosophy more than the MVS philosophy. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! John

Re: Has anyone measured CPU savings using external SORT's vs internal (COBOL) SORT's?

2013-11-25 Thread John McKown
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AbendAid Hybrid Batch (aka mixed COBOL Java)

2013-11-25 Thread John McKown
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Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-26 Thread John McKown
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Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-26 Thread John McKown
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Re: ISPF 3.4 with HLQ *

2013-11-26 Thread John McKown
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Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-26 Thread John McKown
, 26 Nov 2013 07:47:39 -0600, John McKown wrote: I am confused by this. What would you put in such a catalog? The absolute path name plus file name, such as /u/myid/some/subdir/somefile.txt ? If so, why? If you know the name, the system knows where it is. Or do you must mean the file name

OT? Opinion article on software design being deliberately unfriendly

2013-11-27 Thread John McKown
the advancement in hardware and UI design knowledge. Unfortunately, the author does not address the monetary cost of improving the UI. Which is a major concern. -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! John McKown

Re: OT? Opinion article on software design being deliberately unfriendly

2013-11-27 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Software is difficult to write, so, of course, it should be difficult to read! (8-{]} Very true! Which is why I prefer APL2 for all applications programming GRIN/. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter:

Curiosity: ETXR exit code (ATTACHX macro)

2013-11-29 Thread John McKown
hand to test this. -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists

Re: Curiosity: ETXR exit code (ATTACHX macro)

2013-11-29 Thread John McKown
I can try that. Thanks. On Nov 29, 2013 8:33 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com wrote: At 18:57 -0600 on 11/29/2013, John McKown wrote about Curiosity: ETXR exit code (ATTACHX macro): I think the former. with ETXR#2 interrupting ETXR#1 is what really happens. I can't think of a way

Re: CRONTAB and SYSLOGD

2013-11-30 Thread John McKown
. This will allow SMS to allocate the DSN properly and DFHSM, perhaps, to manage any disk resident data sets. -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Curiosity: ETXR exit code (ATTACHX macro)

2013-11-30 Thread John McKown
On Nov 30, 2013 3:10 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: I believe that there is no deferral. Unless RTM is terminating a higher task, lower tasks can terminate in parallel and if it's time for an ETXR to run, the IRB will be scheduled. If that happens to interrupt a previous ETXR, so

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-01 Thread John McKown
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 9:30 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ahhh. So you want the system to find the file filename *anywhere that it exists* when you say *verb* filename? Hmm. Do I want that? Do I want what worked fine yesterday to stop working today because a download or unzip

Re: Un-authorized caller calling authorized services.

2013-12-01 Thread John McKown
It might be helpful to have the OP tell us _exactly_ what authorized function he needs to be done on behalf of his unauthorized user program. Perhaps there is another way to get 'er done. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: COBOL IN SRB Mode (Was Un-authorized caller)

2013-12-01 Thread John McKown
scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Removing messages from Hardcopy medium

2013-12-02 Thread John McKown
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