the directions before Thursday.
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=532459Y=180389A=YZ=1
And now on the web site. Apologies for general crapness in not getting this
done earlier.
so it definetly is the anchor this week?
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is a good thing!
I'M SORRY IT WAS MEANT AS A JOKE!!!
There is a term for sick twisted people like you Dave, its `Perl Monger'.
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an Airport with a Java program on linux, i
think the jar file is called AirportConfigurator.jar or some
other imaginative title.
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* Andrew Bowman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
From: Greg McCarroll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane
cannisters as a child?
I guess that goes with the accent Greg ;-)
If you hadn't discovered Perl goodness knows what you'd be doing
* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 April 2001 13:56
So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive?
Where do I start?
* L Ron Hubbard is on record as saying the best way to make money is to
start
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I shall have to brush up on my ghost stories :)
i've got a great one, it starts out with a monster attacking
a gypsy campsite and killing all but a few, however they place
a curse on him, which means he has an conscience .
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h" mean nothing to you?
i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban
to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to
organise this
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drunk and watch the chaos. your definition of crazy
involves straight jackets or joining the SDLP ;-)
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* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Somebody wrote
Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban
to be lifted was less th
ly don't
want a 5 ft radius circle of charcoal left in it
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* Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
At 15:29 03/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
shop
oncentrate on muffins as opposed to explosives
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* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:12:57PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time
and no-one told me?
And drunks! Don't forget drunks!
drunk crazy buffy fans
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on the number of UPPER and lower case characters
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# $a-receivemomentofperfecthappiness()
# is called
$a-{has_soul}; # returns 0
$a-curse();
in fact with some `debug' code to stdout, you could have a BtVS
script generator
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* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:33:59AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Robert Shiels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Have you thought about charging structures, SAP charge about 300gbp to take
a certification exam, and they offer courses
* Nathan Torkington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Greg McCarroll wrote:
sure it makes sense, but it still is CiP and trust me this isn't
the only bit of CiP in here and much kudos to Paul for it ;-)
I'm unsure what CiP is, but if it has anything to do with gnarliness,
CiP = Crack induced
y - taking learning
tree course Perl101 means people get core competency and it
would become the usual noddy thing. Involving them later when
the forum was established would give them slightly less
clout.
This is of course, imho.
Greg
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)
b) get some other groups (eg NY.pm ) involved to get the support of the
Perl community at large
ok, but i wouldn't worry about b. anytime soon, you have to remember
Larry has said, he'd rather be certified than see perl certification
(or something similar)
Greg
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there on day #1
BTW, just so we're clear - i was thinking of another org to actually do
the certification. Maybe a privately owned company formed from the
london.pm membership.
YAS can probably take care of this, i mailed Kevin last night, but
havent heard back yet
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this, i think i mentioned it in a seperate email
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Since when have messers McCarroll Cantrell been little people :)
I don't know but it implies Cross has put on a hell of a lot of
weight since i last seen him ;-)
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don't
think a voluntary, well-meaning effort will achieve this.
nope, i don't agree here - i don't think this is easy but their is
precedent, YAPC::*
anyway i'm posting a proposal in a few mins
Greg
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Attached is a draft proposal
As soon as JS gets a chance to set up the mailing list, i suggest
me move the discussion there.
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Title: Proposal for the formation of a non-profit Perl certification body for the United
i've already fixed this in my draft proposal posting however i now see
that JP has also done it, so we will now have 2 threads with the
same topic ;-) hurrah!
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will have a problem with this sort
of expertise.
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- One who produces modules, code snippets or techniques
that will in themselves not high in the CiP rating, helps others encourage
high CiP ratings.
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JS, has yet again set up another mailing list for us ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
its a majordomo so its:
subscribe perl-cert
in the body of the text to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kudos again to JS for this,
greg
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* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:30:26AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
ok, but i wouldn't worry about b. anytime soon, you have to remember
Larry has said, he'd rather be certified than see perl certification
(or something similar)
It would be nice
family for 4 weeks because of this, eventually my mother
decided to go to the expense of calling my mobile, what can i say?
she's from Ballymena.
Greg (who realises very few people will understand that)
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committee and YAPC::Europe
committee and making it from my hotel to the conference without
stopping off for a quick cup of coffee ;-)
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* Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I think its partially the vendors fault - they are pushing java as a
solution for things it clearly isn't right for.
out of curiousity - such as (i.e. which vendors are pushing java for
inappropriate problem sapces)?
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everyone a better idea of what's
it seems pretty alive to me ;-)
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hijack the
Convert::Base32 module for the purpose.
Maybe we should implement a pCiP rating, for *potential* for CiP, based
on how marvellously deranged a program is conceptually...
motion carried, todo list increased
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can you than this? ;-)
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(with his london.pm hat on) and a couple of companies that use
Perl say this is a good idea, i think we can do this.
Greg
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. Microsoft may have understood
this with .NET. Discuss.
Correct, especially SOAP, WSDL, etc. This is going to be very big
indeed. MS is betting their company on this. Watch out...
i'll fuck them if its the last thing i do on this one, trust me
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* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Ok, I'm useless, but I've just been to talk to the Cittie, and
they say they're booked out next Thursday.
ok it looks like PO
.. or the anchor!
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* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
I suggest (with Dave Cross' blessing), that we
form the London.pm certification. NetThink and Iterative will
sign up to teach to a given level of skills (or several levels).
Fuck
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Anyone interested in this should contact Dave Jobling directly on
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And you'll get to work just a couple of yards from me!
'nuff
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:48:05PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
ok it looks like PO
.. or the anchor!
Anchor! Anchor! Anchor!
Hush now brother, contain thy enthusiasm, others are still not ready
for the way of the heretic. We
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Ok, I'm useless, but I've just been to talk to the Cittie, and
they say they're booked out next Thursday.
ok it looks like PO
/if we get kevin's blessing - i'd like to
host it at YAS, just so it is fully independent
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* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
At 21:57 28/03/2001, you wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:58:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest
problems with Perl work in london,
Are employers there too stupid to read CVs? Or too lazy? Or is
there some
and once the rate of change in the industry comes under control,
the market will be even more sucessful (however individuals may not)
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* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
At Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:08:04 +0100, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
at cebit, BT devices crashed and burned - why? they had been rushed
out. BT is essentially a good technology if done right, the same is
true for web sites, the industry
, but i've been here before with some other companies
(eBookers, BBC, Interwoven) and know that its hard just to get
fully comfortable
greg
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* Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
ironically, a lot of .com problems could of been avoided and yet they
still would of made the deadlines imposed by `internet time', if they
had slowed down and used traditional business techniques
it, then retire to somewhere for sunday lunch.
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of is drink related.
Greg
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know what is.
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about NetThink?
i just meant a `perl consultancy', i.e. both/either/another/etc.
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3 upwards to 6,7,+ (can't quite remember) and its quite a journey
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was great just now?
i think it was me, i dont want to go into this too much, but i think
that a general perl consultancy (you know who you are) can take these
guys, be very clever at marketting yourselves and prosper
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the cellar bar at the Cittie of
Yorke. Did that happen?
Hmmm or, you could have your social meeting in Belfast, while Schwern
is still here ...
if we get a decent number for this plan, i'm up for it!
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, because it's *easier*...
They won't if you stop running the ftp daemon on the server :)
Rule one of security:
Ensure availability for authorised users
this breaks it ;-)
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the fact that
it is even possible is down to the BSD license IIRC, discuss ...
;-)
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me.
Mike J, you used to work for AOL, you should be more than qualified
to answer this one ;-)
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* Mike Jarvis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
And don't even get her started on child proof caps.
yeah, tell me about it - those things are impossible to get open!
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software''
and run it on their site. until there is something better available
with as much visibility, matt still gets a tiny tiny tiny bit of credit
thats all imho, but then again i'm in far too good a mood today
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* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 10:37:12AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:18:53PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
You _do_ realise that I've now put the trademark notice on all
s not the cleverness of the code, but with all of the
attributes that ``commercial'' software competes on.
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d here we get back to the ROPE project as discussed before, where we
could do a standard distribution of Apache/Mod Perl/Perl/Perl modules,
with TT, XML::*, etc.,etc. already there
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* Dave Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
How about a hackfest one afternoon? A dozen people in a room with
machines/laptops, pair programming...
have you ever tried herding cats?
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its, talks and drinking feats?
Great idea. Wanna collate the information?
and remember, you can start with the achievement "collated the information for this
page"
Greg
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with the toilet seat, no siree, we perform month in month
out - apart from january of course ;-)
Greg
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perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook
London.pm - meetings held on the day after
* Mark Rogaski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
An entity claiming to be Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
: bah, you don't catch us resting on historical laurels - such as the
: time Stowe set up the TVR Jug train, or the time we had that little
: incident with the toilet seat
that I've now put the trademark notice on all of the
london.pm web pages :)
excellent dave, make sure you tm the cute little camel we use as well ;-)
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Perl Mongers".
I'm pretty sure NY.pm can claim prior art here... :)
But aren't trademarks associated with market association, i think
London.pm wins here ... ;-)
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London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month
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Slasdot story:
http://slashdot.org/askslashdot/01/03/06/1954213.shtml
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fancy a trip to NY soon and would hate to go
myself only to find that London.pm en masse had organised themselves
into going.
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* Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
This summary has been bought to you by the letters Alpha, Beta and
Gamma, the numbers 1,3,5,7 all superimposed and the colour Octarine.
and 2, please 2, it'll keep me
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Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Heretics' meeting
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i
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yup, there will be a Heretic's ``fire side chat''
Good-oh! I've invited Eric van Buggenhaut, a Belgian LBWer
everything crystal
are you sorry you asked?
Greg
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ideo camera and post it. You'd need a PhD in chemistry or work for
Pixar to get fireworks like that :-)
i'm not sure if its just a glue language, i think there is some sort
pig latin thing going on as well ;-)
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cris ia64 mipsparisc s390 sh sparc64
armi386 m68k mips64 ppc s390x sparc
they are busy little beavers in the linux kernel community (although
i believe some of this is roling stuff in the main distro for 2.4,
although i could be wrong)
Greg
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* Dominic Mitchell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 11:40:08AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
[gem@scully linux-2.3.37]$ ls arch/
alpha arm i386 m68k mips ppc sh sparc sparc64
You know that shell coders have gone too far when they have their own
kernel
h.
Q. What do I say If I am arrested for anything connected with London.pm?
A. Dave Cross told me/us to do it.
Q. Who collects spam and rice?
A. Dave C.
Q. What should I drink?
A1. TVRs
A2. Lots
Q. What is a TVR?
A. Tequilla, Vodka and Redbull.
Q. What is good to eat at the local curr
mantis
well, come on Amias you know it makes sense, move away from the
evil cult of willow and step into the light?
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;-)
besides Anya/Anyanka has looked a bit grim in the past - especially when
she was still a demon
but she's no longer immortal and is just finishing up her now mortal
existance (i guess that means the demon was kill -1'd ;-) )
god i'm glad its friday so i can regain some sanity
Greg
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* Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Dave Cross wrote:
At Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:55:50 +, Greg McCarroll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cordelia
Airhead
Arrogant, too. IMO.
have you folks never seen Angel?
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* Dave Thorn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 02:30:00PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Richard Clamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
This is very off-topic, but it's too late now :)
I have a B registered Sierra to get shot of[1], no tax, no mot, runs
(though right
in the back?
a few turns in that will _clean up_ killalots act!
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mean robot killing machine
Dave...
p.s. Matt Sergeant's AxKit talk. Tonight. 7:30pm. Torrington Interactive.
of course, i just thought today was a thursday between the 22nd and the 1st
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BN's appeal against them is going well for BN
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so, was there a better way to do this?
* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Jo was talking on IRC today and made me think about packages. Imagine
if you will the following situation ...
you have Country.pm which implements the general functions
with default
ith any organisation except me)
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couldnt be bothered to think about it
Greg
p.s. i dont recommend ever using this code in production
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Country.pm
Muse.pm
test.pl
into the train, and clamber on myself.
Needless to say we were, very, very, drunk.
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to be treated like
shit and squeezed into a single bed, needing to get up at some ridiculous
time in the middle of the night just to guarantee warm water for the
shower
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From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 02/13/2001 08:48:36 AM
Subject:Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall
.
Greg
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* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
this is the sort of analysis that IT managers should be good at
Emphasis on *should* as opposed to *are* .
hey i was trying to put it in a nice way
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