At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:09:46 -, Mark Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This means nothing to me, ohhh...
True pop fact: Vienna never made it to number one in the UK.
It was help at number two for weeks, by Another Record.
Pop quiz: A pint on Thursday night to the first
Title: RE: Feelers for London Open Source Convention
Was it Shaddap a yer Face? Tragic!
It was indeed. I owe you a pint. Of course you'll have to come to the
meeting on Thursday to collect :)
(I'll have to remember that pop quizzes are a good way to force the
lurkers out of hiding :)
Nathan Torkington sent the following bits through the ether:
We're planning a London Open Source Convention. The dates we're
looking hard at now are August 20-23. Are there any obvious clashes
that you can think of?
Other than yapc::europe, which is currently looking like early august,
but
At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:18:12 -, Mark Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Joe Dolce]
Do any others watch those Top Ten blah programs on Ch4? I think I
knew this due to watching the Top Ten Comedy records! Wow, I really
must get out more.
And there's me thinking that you must be an old
Leon Brocard wrote:
Nathan Torkington sent the following bits through the ether:
We're planning a London Open Source Convention. The dates we're
looking hard at now are August 20-23. Are there any obvious clashes
that you can think of?
Other than yapc::europe, which is currently
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:08:41AM +, alex wrote:
In my opinion London would be fine for an August conference.
I don't know what the fuss is about, really. London is not like
Paris in
the summer. We have a lot more parks.
Perhaps September would be better, but hey.
I could go with
On a tangentially related point - I've just overheard someone in the
office mention the rumour that "Puff, the magic dragon" was "written
by someone who was smoking a joint". I guess I'm just surprised that
there are people to whom this fact isn't obvious.
I thought it was about 'chasing
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Agadoo.
Forget it.
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com
Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire
havent had a chance ot look at these yet, but they sound like the
sort of thing some of you sick^H^H^H^Himaginative people would enjoy
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X-Authentication-Warning: mccarroll.demon.co.uk: Host [127.0.0.1] claimed to be
localhost
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:58:25 +, Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 02:54:50PM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote:
We're planning a London Open Source Convention. The dates we're
looking hard at now are August 20-23. Are
Philip Newton sent the following bits through the ether:
Is there any info at all at this stage (e.g. venue, rough dates)?
Once a venue has been found, things will start to happen. Give it a
couple of weeks.
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simon Wistow wrote:
... it's your birthday [0]
Well it's probably not. But it is mine.
I'll be drowning my sorrows in Southside bar (south east corner of
Princes Gardens, SW7 [1]) from about 6:30pm onwards (or
At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:18:12 -, Mark Kitching
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Joe Dolce]
Do any others watch those Top Ten blah programs on Ch4? I think I
knew this due to watching the Top Ten Comedy records! Wow, I really
must get out more.
And there's me thinking that you must be an old
all we'd need to do is hire some terrorists to take over the cruise
ship and sale it across to london - of course someone should make
sure we shoot the cook before the operation starts, oh and fire
a couple of rounds into the birthday cake while your at it.
Also, as it is a modern cruise
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:18:12 -, Mark Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Joe Dolce]
Do any others watch those Top Ten blah programs on Ch4? I think I
knew this due to watching the Top Ten Comedy records! Wow, I really
must get out more.
At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:15:01 + (GMT), Kieran Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I thought Joe Dolce was only number 1 for a week or so, to be knocked
off the top by Jealous Guy from Roxy Music. And poor old Vienna hung
about at number 2 for yonks.
Hmm... you may be right. Anyone know a site
* Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Also, as it is a modern cruise ship, we will use Grep's l33t hacking skills
to gain control of all the automated systems from his Psion 5, whereupon we
don't get me started on PDA's being used to ``hack'' systems, e.g. that
james bond film where
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Also, as it is a modern cruise ship, we will use Grep's l33t hacking skills
to gain control of all the automated systems from his Psion 5, whereupon we
don't get me started on PDA's being used to
* Mike Wyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Also, as it is a modern cruise ship, we will use Grep's l33t hacking skills
to gain control of all the automated systems from his Psion 5, whereupon we
don't
* Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Also, as it is a modern cruise ship, we will use Grep's l33t hacking skills
to gain control of all the automated systems from his Psion 5, whereupon we
don't get me started on PDA's being used to ``hack'' systems, e.g. that
james bond film where
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 03:28:40PM +, Neil Ford wrote:
Then there's the Psion 3 being used to detonate a bomb is a movie
who's name I can't remember but it features the same Mr Segal being
killed in the first 10 minutes or so.
Executive Decision.
Michael
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:15:01 + (GMT), Kieran Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I thought Joe Dolce was only number 1 for a week or so, to be knocked
off the top by Jealous Guy from Roxy Music. And poor old Vienna hung
about at number 2 for yonks.
Given an array full of data which need to be output as a CSV...
return join(',',map{defined$_?s/"/''/g+1?/,/?"\"$_\"":$_:0:''}@{$ar})."\n";
Roger
At 17 Jan 2001 15:54:31 +, Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyone know a site that lists UK top tens for the 1980s?
I don't but there is a excellent book called something like the
"Guiness Book of Hit Singles".
Yeah. Great book. I should buy
I thought it was about 'chasing the dragon' - ie heating a resinous
substance on tinfoil with a lighter and inhaling the fumes, this is
probably less bad for you than smoking stuff in a cigarette form. Although
hookah pipes with resin are probably healthier still.
Myself and a couple of
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 03:28:40PM +, Neil Ford wrote:
Then there's the Psion 3 being used to detonate a bomb is a movie
who's name I can't remember but it features the same Mr Segal being
killed in the first 10 minutes or so.
Executive Decision.
That's the sucker!
Neil.
--
Neil C.
Walk up Exhibition Rd passed Nat Hist, VA and Sci. Museum. 5 minutes
tops.
Make a backup plan - the road was closed this morning due to a gas explosion[0].
[0] JCB + Gas Main + Electrical Cables = 12 ft high flames.
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Robin Houston wrote:
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:25:26PM +, Aaron Trevena wrote:
ingestion has several downsides - lack of control of dosage (assuming you
eat it at a significant lump at a time), longer effects, stronger
effects (making it hard to get dosage
Dave Cross wrote:
Well, according to http://80s.koreamusic.net/billboard/1983.html
it made number one for one week on 3rd Sept 1983.
Number ones on this day ..
5 years ago .. Michael Jackson - 'Earth Song'
10 .. Iron Maiden - 'Take your daughter to the slaughter'
15 ..
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:15:01 + (GMT), Kieran Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I thought Joe Dolce was only number 1 for a week or so, to be knocked
off the top by Jealous Guy from Roxy Music. And poor old Vienna hung
about at number 2 for yonks.
[snip lengthy Puff tMD discussion]
Well, for what it's worth, I just called a friend of mine who knew
Peter Yarrow while growing up, and although she has never asked him, I
have requested that she do so if she speaks to him.
dave, getting this settled.
--
David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[snip lengthy Puff tMD discussion]
Well, for what it's worth, I just called a friend of mine who knew
Peter Yarrow while growing up, and although she has never asked him, I
have requested that she do so if she speaks to him.
dave, getting this
Gareth Harper wrote:
there are sites with all the no1's, but I don't know of any with all the
top tens,
theres probably one around, if not, start one ;)
Who's chart would you use? I.E., who do you want to be sued by? I don't
know about the UK, but Billboard (THE chart in the US) is very picky
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 01:26:24PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
Who's chart would you use? I.E., who do you want to be sued by? I don't
know about the UK, but Billboard (THE chart in the US) is very picky about
such things.
They can't easily sue.
The information is factual. Factual
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:34:21PM +, Tony Bowden wrote:
If you present the chart in a different format to how they did then
there's nothing they can do...
Take a look at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~bssnrw/getchart.html for a
differing viewpoint.
Roger
Just to reinforce the point that this OS is a steaming pile of crap, and that
if you're in the unfortunate situation of actually running it, watch out
(130,000 nodes scanned in 15mins):
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-202-4508359-0.html
Internet worm squirms into Linux servers
By Robert Lemos
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 12:59:56PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Just to reinforce the point that this OS is a steaming pile of crap
Aww c'mon! RedHat was obviously targeted because it's the most
widely used! None of the vulnerable software was written by RH
(and all of it was also included in
Tony Bowden wrote:
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 01:26:24PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
Who's chart would you use? I.E., who do you want to be sued
by? I don't
know about the UK, but Billboard (THE chart in the US) is very
picky about
such things.
They can't easily sue.
The information is
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, you wrote:
Who's chart would you use? I.E., who do you want to be sued by? I don't
know about the UK, but Billboard (THE chart in the US) is very picky about
such things.
jsut do them as they do to you ...
(or indeed as some guy is doing to the football league right
Robin Szemeti wrote:
jsut do them as they do to you ...
snip the arsenal fan story
... then when next weeks top 10 comes out and Billboard publish a top
10 that matches one of your pages sue them blind... remove the all but 1
selected page from the site ..
The problem would be, you still
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:
From: "Robin Houston" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aww c'mon! RedHat was obviously targeted because it's the most
widely used! None of the vulnerable software was written by RH
(and all of it was also included in other distros).
That's true -- but how easy is RH to
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:
There is absolutly nothing stopping you from publishing your own top 10
though. You could draw the names out of a hat and have as much claim to
accuracy as anybody else.
If week after week you came up with the same results as Billboard, you
better have
from this quarters BT bill I managed to accumulate 786 hours of internet
time .. anyone top that?
in my defence it would have been higher, but I was on holiday for 3 weeks
at christmas
best of all though was the price . i paid for Surfttime-anytime ... so
hte ackchewerl calls came to = 0:00p
Robin Szemeti wrote:
and if I publish all the variants .. and each week Billboard 'copy' one
of my 'works of art' can I sue them ? :)
Did you label the variants as Billboard charts? If not, they aren't
publishing the same thing. A list of songs is not a chart.
--
mike
Take a look at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~bssnrw/getchart.html for a
differing viewpoint.
Nice BLINK tags.
bss? Biological Sciences Staff? Hmmm.
Mark.
--
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer'
I picked up a copy of Lincoln Stein's new book "Network Programming
with Perl" last night. I've only had time to flick thru a few chapters
but it looks very interesting. I'll bring it along tonight if anyone
wants to hav a look.
Dave...
Apologies one and all,
i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day
back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it
tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code,
see you all at the next meeting,
Greg
--
Greg McCarroll
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:54:40 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apologies one and all,
i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day
back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it
tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code,
OK.
From: "Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone read/heard about http://www.zebware.com/ ? I just read an article
on
them in Open (Jan 2001) issue.
I haven't tried this with Netscape but with IE every element on their
pages
is drag and drop-able in an impressive/disconcerting way. They
According to a mail I got on the SPUG mailimng list last night, TPJ #20 _has_ been
printed and is in the post now.
Which is good news.
Dave...
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:11:20AM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
from this quarters BT bill I managed to accumulate 786 hours of internet
time .. anyone top that?
I dunno how much it cost per minute, but I averaged five hundred quid per
quarter on the ISDN bill - and I had some free time as
I picked up a copy of Lincoln Stein's new book "Network Programming
with Perl" last night. I've only had time to flick thru a few chapters
but it looks very interesting. I'll bring it along tonight if anyone
wants to hav a look.
Yes please, I'm just starting a project whereby I have to
"Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: "Robin Houston" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aww c'mon! RedHat was obviously targeted because it's the most
widely used! None of the vulnerable software was written by RH
(and all of it was also included in other distros).
That's true -- but how
On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:37:27AM +, Steve Mynott typed:
RH/Slackware/Debian/Solaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD are all fine
systems but they need to be setup by someone who knows what they are
doing in the same way that Perl has to be written by clueful
programmers.
And competent *ix
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 09:56:07AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
Robin Szemeti wrote:
as a matter of interest what is your fave Linux or *nix install then??
From what I've been reading on this list, Debian seems to be argued for
quite a lot, as is FreeBSD (? I think -- one of the BSDs,
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:40:56PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
If you present the chart in a different format to how they did then
there's nothing they can do...
Take a look at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~bssnrw/getchart.html for a
differing viewpoint.
OK ... when I said "there's nothing they
Tony Bowden wrote:
The classic case is someone who retypes a phone book. You
can't reissue it in the same order (i.e. alphabetic by surname)
as the original, but you could quite happily order it numberic
by phone number and no-one could do anything...
They could in Germany :-).
There's been
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:37:27AM +, Steve Mynott typed:
RH/Slackware/Debian/Solaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD are all fine
systems but they need to be setup by someone who knows what they are
doing in the same way that Perl has to be
At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market
right now, just bloody band together and start a consultancy.
Sounds good to me. Anyone else up for it?
Dave...
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 06:09:32AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market
right now, just bloody band together and start a consultancy.
Sounds good to me.
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, but [caveat] [caveat] [caveat]
you're (we're ;-) (almost) all alcoholics with personality disorders?
Why keep giving the money to the pimps^H^H^H^H^H agencies?
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:31:02AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, but [caveat] [caveat] [caveat]
you're (we're ;-) (almost) all alcoholics with personality disorders?
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of me being too damned lazy
to
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market
right now, just bloody band together and start a consultancy.
Sounds good to me. Anyone else up for it?
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:54:40 +, Greg McCarroll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apologies one and all,
i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day
back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it
tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code,
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 11:22:45AM +, Robin Houston wrote:
MICROSOFT.COM.IS.SECRETLY.RUN.BY.ILLUMINATI.TERRORISTS.NET
but
MICROSOFT.COM.INSPIRES.COPYCAT.WANNABE.SUBVERSIVES.NET
is quite a good explanation of what's happened :-)
Yeah, this was NTKed some time ago.
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:37:27AM +, Steve Mynott typed:
RH/Slackware/Debian/Solaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD are all fine
systems but they need to be setup by someone who knows what they are
doing in the same way that Perl has to
APPLE.COM.IS.THE.CHOICE.OF.ALL.SELF.RESPECTING.TERRORISTS.NET
Server Name: WHITEHOUSE.GOV.HAS.THE.BEST.TERRORISTS.NET
--
Duncan Bates
Developer
Proxicom UK
Tel: 020 7321 3812
Mobile: 07884 336 532
http://www.proxicom.com/
for people who are coming to the tech meeting tonight -- do you have any
whiteboard pens you could bring along?
to avoid unnecessary confusion, list traffic and whiteboard pens, if
whiteboard pen owners could mail me directly offering to bring some, I'll
reply to the first person saying "yes
David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 06:09:32AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market
right now, just bloody band together and
Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well I have both The Matrix and MIB with me on DVD and a DVD capable
powerbook..
Movie intermission anyone?
I have Deep Purple at the Montreux jazz festival 2000... ;-)
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
APPLE.COM.IS.THE.CHOICE.OF.ALL.SELF.RESPECTING.TERRORISTS.NET
Server Name: WHITEHOUSE.GOV.HAS.THE.BEST.TERRORISTS.NET
TERRORISTS.NET.IS.SO.FUCKING.31338.NET
APPLE.COM.IS.THE.CHOICE.OF.ALL.SELF.RESPECTING.TERRORISTS.NET
WHITEHOUSE.GOV.HAS.THE.BEST.TERRORISTS.NET
AMAZON.COM.SHOULD.SELL.SEXTOYSONLINE.COM
SLASHDOT.ORG.SUCKS.COMPARED.TO.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG
--
Duncan Bates
Developer
Proxicom UK
Tel: 020 7321 3812
Mobile: 07884 336 532
* John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Hmmm, does sound good though.
it all depends what you mean, do you mean a proper consultancy or
a bunch of people getting together to share accounting/marketting?
if its a proper consultancy, you'd have to wear suits, be polite
and be in work for 9 in the
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 11:41:29AM +, Neil Ford wrote:
Well I have both The Matrix and MIB with me on DVD and a DVD capable
powerbook..
Movie intermission anyone?
Cool, 20 minutes is plenty enough to watch all the good bits in The Matrix.
God bless chapter-seek.
--
Richard Clamp
SLASHDOT.ORG.SUCKS.COMPARED.TO.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG
jimphillips has one on Microsoft too.
MICROSOFT.COM.IS.NO.MATCH.FOR.THE.UEBER-GEEKS.AT.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG
Hmmm
/Robert
i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day
back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it
tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code,
ditto, except today is the first day of similar flu-like illness :(
sorry i wont be there to do the
"Robert Shiels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- Original Message -
From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 January 2001 11:25
Subject: Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:31:02AM +, Dave Hodgkinson
As I've never met you all in person (hopefully to be rectified on February
1st, can't come tonight as we're boarding the loft..don't ask) I don't know
how big a party animal you all are, however some of you may be interested
that Linkdup/Uploaded are having a party on February 1st at the
Tony Bowden wrote:
The fact you are recording is "What Billboard said was number one". *That*
is a fact. Why they decided it was number one isn't the issue.
How about if I put up a website wherein I disclose the fact: "This is what
the object code to commercial app looks like?"
Under (U.S.)
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 08:03:52AM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
The fact you are recording is "What Billboard said was number one". *That*
is a fact. Why they decided it was number one isn't the issue.
How about if I put up a website wherein I disclose the fact: "This is what
the object code
Dave Cross wrote:
OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the day by stepping in to give
a 20 min talk - or do I have to talk about Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_?
I could give a talk on either Flash stuff (again, although there's not
much else to say ATM that people don't already
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 January 2001 11:05
I have Deep Purple at the Montreux jazz festival 2000... ;-)
That all sounds a bit Spinal Tap.
"We hope you like our new direction" :)
Dave...
--
The information contained in this communication is
confidential, is
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 08:03:52AM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
The fact you are recording is "What Billboard said was number one".
*That*
is a fact. Why they decided it was number one isn't the issue.
How about if I put up a website wherein I disclose the fact: "This is what
the object code
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:53:12PM -, Matthew Jones wrote:
Is this relevant at all?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16147.html
"The injunction was granted thanks to new European database laws that
essentially assume data to be copyrightable"
Almost certainly. As I say, my legal
Netscape has;
NETSCAPE.COM.SHOULD-DUMP.AOL-AND-REHIRE.JWZ.BUT.CHECK-OUT.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG
mallum
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 12:12:19PM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
SLASHDOT.ORG.SUCKS.COMPARED.TO.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG
jimphillips has one on Microsoft too.
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42
What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get
anyway?
Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the
programmer. And the task.
Sounds a tad low to me. I've never contracted
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 January 2001 13:46
Dave Cross wrote:
OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the
day by stepping in to give a 20 min talk - or do I have to
talk about Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_?
I could give a talk on either Flash stuff
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:55:08PM -, dcross - David Cross wrote:
Sounds a tad low to me. I've never contracted as a Perl programmer for less
than 50/hr. Normally I'd estimate at about 500/day. I'd have thought that
if we were selling ourselves as top-notch Perl consultants (Dave H's
* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42
What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get
anyway?
Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the
programmer.
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:29:20PM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:55:08PM -, dcross - David Cross wrote:
Sounds a tad low to me. I've never contracted as a Perl programmer for less
than 50/hr. Normally I'd estimate at about 500/day. I'd have thought that
if we
At 11:41 18/01/01, binkyuk wrote:
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:54:40 +, Dave told us to:
OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the day by
stepping in to give a 20 min talk - or do I have to talk about
Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_?
Well I have both The Matrix and MIB with me on
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
there is a big question here, do people want to create a small business
with a few perl programmers all on largish salaries or do people want
to create a proper consulting business
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:59 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
there is a big question here, do people want to create a small
business with a few perl programmers
Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Didn't they appear at the Albert Hall with a orchestra in 1970? Their
early exposure to classical music didn't impro^H^H^H^H^H change their
direction much.
They did it again last year and hauled the orchestra round Europe this
time.
BTW if anyone
dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42
What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get
anyway?
Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the
programmer. And
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:03:39 +, "Andy Wardley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 18, 4:57am, Dave Cross wrote:
OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the day by
stepping in to give a 20 min talk - or do I have to talk about
Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_?
I can talk all
People (no particular order):
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= Pimp = = Accountant =
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= BOFH = = Security Guru =
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[snip the first bit... all great]
Location
A big pub in central London.
Top floors: development
Ground floor Pub: with comedy stand and terminal points for laptops
Purleese wireless is the only way to go. :-)
Basement: disco / conference room, big flat screens
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:21:45AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:59 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
there is a big question here, do
* Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
People (no particular order):
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= Pimp = = Accountant =
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= BOFH =
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