[LUTE] Re: 17th century continuo practice evidence

2009-10-23 Thread demery
>>And no manuscript annotations to show how the player adapted the part >>for his instrument. Maybe the musicians simply weren't allowed to >>write on the music. the pencil as we know it today was protean then, artists certainly had charcoal sticks for skethes, but these may not have

[LUTE] Re: CD "The Court of Bayreuth" - Miguel Yisrael, baroque lute

2009-10-23 Thread demery
> Dear Peter and all, > > Being one of the members of the French list who expressed his disapproval > of Mr Y.'s "approach" , I would simply like to underline that I never said > a word against the idea of using a subscription to help to realize a > project, whatever this project may be : selling

[LUTE] Re: plucked (and plonked) trio

2009-10-22 Thread demery
> So there are two bridges, but no under-and-over stuff (as on > later dulcimers). if one bridge each side, then each set of strings are likely to be sloped relative to the other, so they look like an X viewed from the side; this allows the player a choice, play left, or play right. Some players

[LUTE] Re: [Lute] Lute and Harp duets

2009-10-16 Thread demery
> Greetings! > does anyone on the list have any experience of playing duets with a harp > (either renaissance or baroque lute)? I would be grateful for some help > in terns of possible repertoire! > Thanks > Charles As any harpist will confirm, much depends on the harp. Historical harps were mos

[LUTE] Re: Here's a real question to all the fret gut users

2009-10-14 Thread demery
> well, actually it's more like three... > > 1. how often do you replace a gut fret? (on my 10c they still new, on > the old one it took me about a year or so) I replaced the ones that came on the instrument when I bought it used, that was 6 years ago. Not playing it much these days tho. > 2. D

[LUTE] Re: The End of the Golden Age

2009-10-11 Thread demery
> Maybe that is true, but there are thousands of CDs--maybe in some > sense those recordings are some sort of dream world :) > > I don't think the unedited videos will stop. I just think we are now > in a new stage. Editing is a feature of most commercial releases, for several decades now, long b

[LUTE] Re: Anyone see Crawford Young's concert?

2009-10-07 Thread demery
>Dear All, If you're going to go this route, why not try a synthetic > oud plectrum? Jim Not for sale at the corner band instrument store. Got lots of leather scraps and short lengths of gut string. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.

[LUTE] Re: Anyone see Crawford Young's concert?

2009-10-06 Thread demery
> > hi Stuart, > > I remember the suggested guitar string being the 1st (the high e). I had > to add a piece of tape to the non-business end in order to keep a better > grip on it and to keep it from twisting around in my sweaty little digits > --and yes, to find it later. So it really helps to ad

[LUTE] Re: Newbie needs to know - where buy a lute and what type?

2009-10-02 Thread demery
>Could you post the link and password? Why not splurge and spend 15 euros... -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?

2009-10-01 Thread demery
> I wonder if you could relatively inexpensively construct a lute (the bowl, > at minimum) from carbon fiber (like some acoustic guitars) or molded > plastic > (like an Ovation guitar), and what it would sound like? Plastic was tried by EMS/Bradford (or was it cast resin?) Carbon fiber would be

[LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?

2009-10-01 Thread demery
> (think of Altos and their Baroque plastic recorders, which can be > phenomenally good but they ain't wood). Molds for plastic are capable of the precision needed to churn out instruments that are acousitcally similar, making post-mold tuning unnecessary. So long as the instrument is blown by a

[LUTE] Re: Lute factories/cost of lutes.

2009-10-01 Thread demery
>Actually, thought, what I was trying to get at is this; who was buying >those hundreds of lutes under construction, or at least with parts >made/bought, in the death inventories, and how much were they paying >for them? Granted, this has little or nothing to do with what's going

[LUTE] Re: i am one confused discouraged lute newbie - but see a rainbow horizon

2009-09-30 Thread demery
> but I secretly wonder...maybe classical guitar is a better and cheaper way > to go...? its different. The string tension on a classical guitar is a lot higher than the string tension on a lute. The lute is a lot 'lighter' in construction than a gutar. I was seated next to a tenor viola da g

[LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?

2009-09-30 Thread demery
>So the thread about student lutes and costs has got my brain working... >and let me state right away that by profession I am a business man and >not am musician. Then as a businessman you know enough to begin with a market survey. The mailing lists of the various lute societys are a

[LUTE] Re: Lute Factories

2009-09-30 Thread demery
> On Sep 30, 2009, at 10:37 AM, nedma...@aol.com wrote: > But you can get a student violin for $200-300 US, and less than that > with super saver shipping from Amazon.com. > So at the entry > level, lutes are much more expensive. SAT Plastic recorders can be had for under $100 and are seen on s

[LUTE] Re: Newbie needs to know - where buy a lute and what type?

2009-09-30 Thread demery
>I have been cruising the net for tab. Just not >much luck in finding anything that I've heard recorded. There are a few websites with lute tab on them, but you will have much better luck with early music stores. Most of the renaissance lute repetoire has been published in facsimile by B

[LUTE] Re: Newbie needs to know - where buy a lute and what type?

2009-09-30 Thread demery
>Hello, > >My name is Luther... I have the same questions, why isn't there a ready >to buy lute for under $1000 Have you shopped for a bassoon lately? Double bass? not enough lute players to justify a factory; working by hand really does set the minimum price at roughly that. for a

[LUTE] Re: lute lessons - help

2009-09-28 Thread demery
> Hello all: > > I just retired to Pawnee City, Nebraska and wish to study the lute Join the LSA, part of your membership benefits will be a listing of fellow members, maybe you will find someone in driving distance. Also look for other early music activity, Viola da Gamba Society, American

[LUTE] Re: ET FunFest

2009-09-28 Thread demery
>>Is there anyone on the list with AP who would care to enlighten us >> muggles about what you hear? dunno about AP, or even PP; play a note to me, ask me what it was, my reply is guesswork. I also have no clue about intervals. I can sing the ones I want, just, dont ask me what they were, I

[LUTE] Re: lute music, ET, etc

2009-09-28 Thread demery
> Only the pianists are stuck with what they get from the tuners. ah, but what you didnt notice was the half-our conversation between the artist and the tuner where they hammered out what the artist expected. In many cases the artist is familiar with the rental instruments available at each venue

[LUTE] Re: New lute music

2009-09-26 Thread demery
> And > what about the surviving wind instruments from that period: were > they tuned to a particular temperament? Bob Marvins data on recorders and english flutes (GSJ) is the best attempt to record this I have seen, but he was hampered by several issues and did not publish any firm conclusinos

[LUTE] Re: ET FunFest [was]New lute music and ET

2009-09-26 Thread demery
> Eugene-- > Your final point is a good one in the temperament wars. What, > indeed, did the composer have in mind? How did he/she hear the music? Composer isnt the isse I think so much as the performers fear of how the audience will perceive the performance. Shalm players are always f

[LUTE] Re: Jane Pickeringe's book in the net?

2009-09-21 Thread demery
> Dear collective wisdom, > > does anyone know, whether the Jane Pickeringe's lute book facsimile is > already in the Net? I've done some googling, but no luck. Between the modern recordings (thank you Jacob and Ronn) and face book therre are too many irrelelvant hits for google to be easily use

[LUTE] Re: Django on a Mac using VirtualBox?

2009-09-17 Thread demery
>On Sep 16, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Miles Dempster wrote: > > I run Windows XP under Parallels on my Intel Mac.It allows me to run > any Windows application, > >So do all these solutions require Windows? Django expects to interact with library code provided with windows, it needs wind

[LUTE] Re: Django on a Mac using VirtualBox?

2009-09-17 Thread demery
>> Probably it is possible to use wine (http://www.winehq.org) also on a >> Mac. I use django with wine under ubuntu linux. yes, looking at the home page for wine, it should work well in theory, and is mature enough for that to be a realistic expectation. Wine is a lot like the native mac APIs s

[LUTE] Re: Django on a Mac using VirtualBox?

2009-09-16 Thread demery
>So what would be the best way to run Django on an Intel Mac? dont. Get an intel machine for the django. Network the two machines. Should be possible to have just as good performance on an obsolete intel machine as you will get on the intel mac using a virtual machine, and that will free u

[LUTE] Re: Django on a Mac using VirtualBox?

2009-09-15 Thread demery
>Is anyone successfully running Django on a Mac using VirtualBox Open >Source Edition? from what I can see, that is a bit twisted; but then, such is the nature of virtualization. Powerful and recent x86 hardware, running Mac Leopard OSX to host a virtualized machine which then runs some

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance - not much juice

2009-09-14 Thread demery
> I find this very difficult just to play the individual lines, let alone > play them alongside the other lines. Maybe, as been suggested, playing > the music without bar-lines would make things easier. Personally, I > think that would make thing quite impossible. In fact I'd rather > re-write bit

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance - not much juice

2009-09-14 Thread demery
Lots more recorder players than lutenists, and both of us dip into the repetoire in question, so the recorder editions are of interest. I have found this particularly challenging. Change in mensuration at section breaks get 'interesting' when there are pick up notes involved and the transition l

[LUTE] Re: Lute shopping advice?

2009-09-14 Thread demery
> I am assuming a public forum is > not a comfortable place to discuss the pros and cons of various luthiers. many of the better luthiers are members and thereby freinds, yes, its an uncomfortable subject matter, especially since what makes a good lute to any particular client involves subjective

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-12 Thread demery
> nedma...@aol.com wrote: > You all must have been really good sight readers! At the time I was paying with a Collegium Musicum that was the typical repetoire, and, yes, we were all at least good at sight reading from necessity. I was also active in church choir, a madrigals group, and a choral

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-12 Thread demery
> Jon Banks has been championing a repertoire (some textless chansons and > other things) from around 1500 which he argues is for lute trio (or a > trio of plucked instruments, probably of different sizes). 1500 is probably publication date, well after that material was new and popular. Printing

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-12 Thread demery
> "French Secular Music of the Late Fourteenth Century" edited by Willi >Apel? that repetoire is more than juicy; its the renaissance equivalent of bebop jazz. More reasonable will be found in Odhecaton, Canti-B, Canti-C and the Lieber der Fridonlin Sichery (Schott edition by fj geisbert m

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-12 Thread demery
>The main problem with modern performers trying to read old music in >modern editions is that musical phrases are disguised and truncated by >bar lines, which said performers seem to need. there are a few editors who address this issue, ogni sorte for example; even one older editor (g

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-11 Thread demery
>> I'm not sure why this thread is taking place. Women are certainly not >> victims of any sort of discrimination. The statistics suggest otherwise, else, why such an imbalance? And that is why were are being introspective. I seriously doubt any of us would discriminate deliberatly, but there ar

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-11 Thread demery
>>>> Rob MacKillop 9/10/2009 9:00 AM >>> > It's no big deal. Some instruments attract different sexes. Flutes >for > instance attract girls more than boys, well at least in the schools > I've had anything to do with over the years. Same with clarinet. I > don't know

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-11 Thread demery
> Who here knows > how to say "male geek bias" in Medieval Latin, Ancient Greek or Klingon? Status Quo. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-11 Thread demery
> Hi all, > > I would hope that in these days of equality and maybe political > correctness > this male dominated area of music-geeks has moved on enough to respect our > female colleagues. It would be nice, but dont expect too much when hormones are involved and structured events limit time for

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-10 Thread demery
>>>It's no big deal. Some instruments attract different sexes. Flutes >>> for >>>instance attract girls more than boys, well at least in the schools >>>I've had anything to do with over the years. Same with clarinet. I >>>don't know why. It takes a certain arm length and handspread

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-10 Thread demery
> Recently, the harpsichord list has been castigating itself for its > excessive 'macho-ness' and lack of female participants. which is curious, I have known about as many female keboard players as male; perhaps it reflects the greater likelyhood of males being online rather than males playing th

[LUTE] Re: A win for us all

2009-09-01 Thread demery
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009, Ron Andrico said: >We are pleased to announce that our CD Divine Amarillis: Airs De Court >1570-1640 has won first place as best album at the 2009 Just Plain >Folks Awards ceremony in the category of Classical Voice/Opera Solo. good work, what you gonna do to fol

[LUTE] Re: Edward Martin/who nose?

2009-08-28 Thread demery
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009, Antonio Corona said: AC> At any rate, we cannote provide a reasonable hypothesis for > certain facts of performance pratice by summoning the whims of a priest. Not even a prince of a priest? It is such men who have the means to hire lutenists for such occaisions, so that

[LUTE] Re: Edward Martin/who nose?

2009-08-28 Thread demery
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009, Mark Probert said: > You are right about the pavan and its purpose, though I wonder how that > relates to the playing of same on a lute. > > Practically, your average lute is not a loud instrument All too well appreciated by this player. Much depends on the setting. An o

[LUTE] Re: Flying with lutes

2009-08-28 Thread demery
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009, Peter Martin said: > However these items may be carried in the >hold of the aircraft... is that hold pressurized? heated? All the time, even in emergencies? See if they have a policy regarding pets/animals, which places such in the hold as well (if kitty emerges free

[LUTE] Re: Edward Martin/who nose?

2009-08-28 Thread demery
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009, howard posner said: > > On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Antonio Corona wrote: > >> "They must be played with a somewhat fast air [so much for the slow >> pavan] well, perhaps the tempo can be varied enough to get that certain peacock and his retinue thru the line as quick

[LUTE] Re: Any hints on how to develop improvisational ability?

2009-08-27 Thread demery
>There are specific skills you need to be a professional yes, but, what kind of professional? >even if you could, as some of >the great cornetto players can, improvise in the style of Bassano and >others, this would definitely not land you a job. In itself, perhaps not, but one

[LUTE] Re: Edward Martin/who knows?

2009-08-27 Thread demery
>Quite right, Dana, but if memory serves Milan introduces the 6 Pavanas >by saying that the next six fantasias are pavanas. The there's the >problem of pavans being generally in duple and some of the Milan >pavanas are in triple. I am away from my copy of milan, so I cant confirm

[LUTE] Re: Edward Martin/who knows?

2009-08-26 Thread demery
> By the way, Milan himself wrote that the Pavans, at any > rate, can be repeated- even three times if one wishes. Fantsia is a different beast than a Pavan. Pavan is a dance piece, the size of the room used by the dancers for their procession dictates how much music will be needed, sometimes it

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2009-08-26 Thread demery
>Do you who use gut trim >it, leave it, or wind most of it on the pegs to keep things neater? Dont wind on the peg, minimize the windings to enough to hold well. Loose winding dont look much better than dangling hanks (which is what you should do initially). To many risks wedging up aga

[LUTE] Re: Any hints on how to develop improvisational ability?

2009-08-26 Thread demery
> Question 1. [improv] you might find more on improv in the archives, it has been discussed here before. My first instrument was voice, followed by guitar, eventually I came to lute. In all of that I was one of those who play by ear. I find it difficult to play from score, if the version of a

[LUTE] Re: Recording yourself

2009-08-23 Thread demery
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009, Sean Smith said: > > If you're on an iMac you can record directly into iMovie using the > iSight. might be possible using older used macs too. Apple has technically obsoleted lots of machines with recent OS X upgrades, Leopard wont run on older G4's, and snow leopard on

[LUTE] Re: cat will after kind

2009-08-21 Thread demery
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009, vance wood said: > We tend to think we have a monopoly on crude, lascivious behavior ah, but, what of pills to purge melancholy... and, certain frenche ditties, "Il estoit une fillette..." troubadors had a rich earthy repetoire centuries earlier, as did the romans. nothi

[LUTE] Re: Marriage at Cana

2009-08-21 Thread demery
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009, David Tayler said: >That is a fascinating painting for all sorts of reasons. Apparently >the painter, Jan Vermeyen, spent a fair amount of time in Spain which strongly suggests he was at least outwardly a catholic; yet, no halos. >that lute has a number of qu

[LUTE] Re: Lute variety

2009-08-17 Thread demery
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009, "Mathias Rösel" said: >>> As Jean-Michel points out there is a similarity to another >>> previously painted lute, minus the later shape and number of >>> courses. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/2.htm > > Now this is something! That's the same lute! Obviously, Cornelisz > Verm

[LUTE] Re: Lute variety

2009-08-17 Thread demery
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009, Sean Smith said: > > One other note on the painting is the lack of stylized halo. perhaps reasonable for a protestants depiction, assuming this is such. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/inde

[LUTE] Re: Traveling with lute

2009-08-15 Thread demery
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009, David Tayler said: >The trick is to learn speed turning for the pages, and you can turn on >any half note or even a quarter note. With a sturdy music stand, some reliable bungie cords, a laptop, and a foot pedal it should be easy to setup a display using a pdf file

[LUTE] Re: Power to the Basses

2009-08-15 Thread demery
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009, Martin Shepherd said: > like a singer spitting out consonants at the beginning of every word. vocal coaches and choir directors demand strong consonants from their singers, knowing that what is done well in rehearsal is too often forgotten in the heat of performance, but b

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler 1536 bass course designations

2009-08-13 Thread demery
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009, Reinier de Valk said: >Does anyone happen to have a digital copy (preferably in .jpg or .tif >format) of the picture found in Hans Newsidler's 1536 Ein newgeordent >kuenstlich Lautenbuch, on which four different series of symbols for >notating the positions o

[LUTE] Re: more Luciano

2009-08-02 Thread demery
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009, "Mayes, Joseph" said: >Once more let me admonish anyone thinking of ordering a lute from >Luciano Faria - I am still waiting for my instruments - A fully-paid >for theorbo and deposits on two other lutes that are all about three >years late! The man has had c

[LUTE] Re: Zoom H2

2009-08-02 Thread demery
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009, TheOther said: > Bruno Correia wrote: >>A question for those who have the Zoom H2. Is this mic. only for >>recording or it can also be used as a standard mic? maybe it can, from their website Support for plug-in power type external mics The input jack for external

[LUTE] Re: Alto lute help

2009-07-19 Thread demery
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009, Andrew Arconti said: >I have been using the following tuning which I was told is what the >instrument was made for: A, E, C, G, D, A; but am curious if there are >other tunings appropriate for a lute of this type? depends on what music you are playing from. Yo

[LUTE] Re: Tuning issue

2009-07-16 Thread demery
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009, Ivo Jancík said: > Hello everybody. > > I have a tuning problem with my lute, which I don't know how to solve. I have > got 8-course lute, G-tuning, 572 mm bridge to nut. My fifth course (C) > consists of Nylgut 56 and wounded NG 112D (octave difference). After fine > tu

[LUTE] Re: The Galliard

2009-07-13 Thread demery
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009, nedma...@aol.com said: >But the dancers could always modify >their steps, I think, to match the tempos of the band. But too slow >might be harder to accomodate than too fast; shorter jumps at a >fast tempo, yes, but higher jumps at a slow one? problem is, no

[LUTE] Re: The Galliard

2009-07-12 Thread demery
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009, nedma...@aol.com said: >Do we know approximately what the tempo of the Galliard was when >danced? It must suit the needs of the dancer(s); if playing for live dancers and a dance master is present, defer to his judgement. Our primary reference is Arbeau, who descr

[LUTE] Re: octave stringing - historical references ?

2009-07-10 Thread demery
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009, dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us said: > The link I posted (re 4c Guitar tunings) http://www.lgv-pub.com/Essays/Fink_-_Tuning_paper.pdf is for an online paper by Michael Fink which focuses on 4c guitar tuning. he definately covers Bermudo, -=-=-=-=- Fink, p6 No doubt Bermudo al

[LUTE] Re: octave stringing - historical references ?

2009-07-10 Thread demery
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009, David Tayler said: > > Doublings were not limited to octaves. We have numerous examples > of > > string instruments such as the renaissance hammer dulcimer in > fifths > > and fourths. The link I posted (re 4c Guitar tunings) quotes and translates a

[LUTE] Re: octave stringing - historical references ?

2009-07-08 Thread demery
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009, David Tayler said: > Because the organ--the instrument that was everywhere--used not only > fundamental doublings, but octaves, fifths and exotic mixtures, it > was natural for other instruments to try them. quite so. yet, there are provisions to balance the contributions

[LUTE] Re: octave tuning

2009-07-08 Thread demery
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009, nedma...@aol.com said: >By the way, in responding to posts here, is it generally done by >responding to the whoe group rather than the individual sender? Or >perhaps it depends upon the post. . . however you chose to do it, you should be deliberate. For the most

[LUTE] Re: octave stringing - historical references ?

2009-07-08 Thread demery
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009, Martin Shepherd said: > Just quickly, off the top of my head: the same for me, I recall some 16c debate of the virtues of octaves verses the 'falsity' of them; 'si placet' wasnt held to be a strong argument, but without todays science of acoustics it is hard to rationalize h

[LUTE] Re: Question Re: octave tuning

2009-07-08 Thread demery
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009, nedma...@aol.com said: >The 8 course lute I purchased recently came with octave tuning from the >5th to 8th course. I changed the 5th and 6th course to unison ( >keeping the 7th and 8th octave ) because I found that playing any >passages on those couses with a

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Holly [Ilex]

2009-07-05 Thread demery
Holly being soft, but desirable for its whiteness, you might try for both by grafting a holly head onto a maple shaft. Use a wedge splint joint as seen in classical guitars between peghead and neck. Some V-blocks and a zero-clearance shelf on the band saw might do the trick, with the stock still

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Holly [Ilex]

2009-07-03 Thread demery
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009, Andrew Hartig said: > > Has anyone on the list had much experience with Holly for peg wood? > I've just come into a few small log sections of Holly from a recently > felled tree; loverly. short pieces will have about as much loss at the ends as longer pieces do, percenta

[LUTE] Re: where to find the music

2009-06-27 Thread demery
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009, Nancy Carlin said: >I have just gotten the Les Witches I like that group, have another of their CD's; odd, spirited. "Brande Champanje" I would guess its a mispellynge of Bransle de Champange; more nameing the dance than any particular tune. With reason to celebrat

[LUTE] Re: strings, pitch, thickness tension - need help!

2009-06-27 Thread demery
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009, Oskar De Mari said: >isn't the Baeir string-density calculator just his interpretation? never used it, so cant speak to that from experience. The formulae involved are well known, but require information about physical property(s) of the strings which are not always

[LUTE] Re: strings, pitch, thickness tension - need help!

2009-06-27 Thread demery
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009, ml said: > my humble opinion: your vihuela, Oskar, was designed and build by > Batov with a tension with which it sounds at its best. I would ask > Batov I agree with you Manolo, the maker is best positioned to do testing and build the instrument accordingly. Start fro

[LUTE] Re: lute songs or pieces for wedding occasion

2009-06-17 Thread demery
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009, Grzegorz Joachimiak said: > Dear friends, > > do you know any songs for lute with soprano or only lute pieces, wrotes > for the wedding special occasion? the choice is huge, includes most of the dance music published in 4 and 5 parts for wind or string ensemble. Make a

[LUTE] Re: lute songs or pieces for wedding occasion

2009-06-17 Thread demery
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009, "Mathias Rösel" said: > How about e. g. Come Again? such bawd is better held for when the celebration after the ceremony gets rowdy. Il estoit une fillette, une mousque de biscayne, watkins ale... for the dancing, I have always liked Tant que vivrai; which goes well for e

[LUTE] Re: Hard shell lute cases for air travel

2009-06-16 Thread demery
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009, Graham Freeman said: >All, >I'm going through the same thing. Too many people are telling me that >Kingham cases are no match for what the gorilla baggage-handlers can >throw at them. not that kingham cases are shabby, far from it, just that those gorillas,

[LUTE] Re: Fuellana, fac simile on line

2009-06-16 Thread demery
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009, Sauvage Valéry said: > I don't know if you know this site but could interest some of you : very interesting, unfortunatly its impossibly slooow to access from here in the US, maybe will be easier at some other time of day. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: Hard shell lute cases for air travel

2009-06-16 Thread demery
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009, angevin...@att.net said: > So what I wonder is this. Does anybody know of a company Kingham seems to have a good share of the market with a sterling reputation from what I have seen over several decades. Makes cases for many makers, including David van Edwards. See the w

[LUTE] Re: Apple Tuning Applet

2009-06-15 Thread demery
Old standard for headphones was a 1/4 in plug & jack as used by WECO for switchboards in telephone exchanges, new one is a mini, there might even be a micro. I have adaptors for all of them accumulated over the years, many came for free with headphones bought seperately. A bunch of them in a bag

[LUTE] Re: Ma mere Marie moy(?)

2009-06-12 Thread demery
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009, wi...@cs.helsinki.fi said: > The name looks like something > like "Ma mere Marie moy". its does indeed, but I think I see an abreviation in it - Ma Mer~ Marie moy hmmm, a second dot after marie, mariai, mariae, marie', perhaps mariee' -- Dana Emery To get on or off t

[LUTE] Re: First lute advice

2009-06-12 Thread demery
6,7,8 course Much depends on what you want to play. And also how you intend to play. Some play alone, others in consort. Some consorts are more formal than others. A sunday afternooon jam session or a pickup band playing for dancers is going to be far less formal than a collegium musicum or a

[LUTE] Re: First lute advice

2009-06-12 Thread demery
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009, morgan cornwall said: >Hello, > > > >I am looking for advice on a first student lute hopefully you have a teacher to discuss this with, even if they mainly do guitar, cant hurt to ask, you never know. Not the first time this Q has been posed here, take some time

[LUTE] Re: First lute advice

2009-06-12 Thread demery
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009, Nigel Solomon said: > Rob MacKillop wrote: > >> Regarding the 8c/7c question, there are many players who switch the >> lower two courses around, so you have a 'normal' 7c with the 7th course >> at D, plus an extra F on the 8th course. I haven't done this myself, >>

[LUTE] Re: Help in reading the name of a piece?

2009-06-03 Thread demery
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009, Andreas Schlegel said: > ou este Vous allé = J.-B.Lully, Trios de la Chambre: LWV 35/11 > SMT I, p.84 Possible, comparision of the music would confirm, but the title in artos facsimile differs from that. o(s)i a(fl)e Vous alle~ is my reading, more examples of the same han

[LUTE] Re: Flatbackt lute [Scanned]

2009-06-03 Thread demery
>does anybody know what a "flatbackt lute" (mentioned in a document >c1610) was? My guess would be a vihuella da mano, tuned like a lute, but with a slightly arched back and sides. Should have been a common sight in spanish-influenced areas such as the papal court and naples. The spanis

[LUTE] Re: review

2009-06-01 Thread demery
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009, howard posner said: > Anyone else have reviews they would like to share? "oddly conventional." seems he has issues with conventions! Not so much reviews, but, as I am assured, there is a language which scholars employ to describe music. I am willing to believe they kn

[LUTE] Re: help, please !

2009-05-28 Thread demery
On Thu, May 28, 2009, "Eugene C. Braig IV" said: > There seem to be many articles online to cite the Levy article, but I can't > seem to find the Levy article itself, Including on JSTOR. The suffolk county library system used to be a client of JSTOR, with access open to all cardholders in the co

[LUTE] Re: Lute music.

2009-05-27 Thread demery
On Tue, May 26, 2009, Herbert Ward said: > > The strings of a lute all have approximately the same > timbre, so that lute music is polyphonic and monotimbral. , not exactly true I think, tho we disagree over a matter of degree; I do understand your point. The need for octave stringing poin

[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-22 Thread demery
On Thu, May 21, 2009, angevin...@att.net said: > What the lute world > lacks is a great pedagogue. not entirely convinced of that. We have some folk who are paying their dues and earning my respect, Ron McFarlane being just one. His column in the LSA Q, his videos, and his dedication to not o

[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-21 Thread demery
On Thu, May 21, 2009, chriswi...@yahoo.com said: > here's 150 pieces, including virtuoso fantasias by Dowland and Milano; Some of that is useful, both as a challenge, and giving notes to what you have memorized from recordings. Also, often times its what makes the book interesting to a publish

[LUTE] Re: Luthier , Engineered Best , Fastest , Cheapest[Scanned]

2009-05-16 Thread demery
On Fri, May 15, 2009, William Brohinsky said: > Earlier in the renaissance revival, George Kelischek engineered > inexpensive krummhorns using ABS plastic and plastic reeds. They were > far cheaper than wooden krummhorns, and were intended to be quite > popular with schools and amateur groups. H

[LUTE] Re: Luthier , Engineered Best , Fastest , Cheapest[Scanned]

2009-05-15 Thread demery
On Fri, May 15, 2009, Narada said: >> I don't think this guy is for real. This is a scam. i dont see that. The concept is modern and very plausible, the financial end of it is risque until tested; how much was he asking? >> My business, which is in 3D visualisation, animation and 3D modelling

[LUTE] Re: Milan's tablature?

2009-05-07 Thread demery
On Thu, May 7, 2009, David van Ooijen said: > On a side note: when did modern guitar TAB (equals Milan's) arise? I have heard talk of Mel Bay editions. before 1960, which is when I took up guitar. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: Anne Burns

2009-04-25 Thread demery
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009, Monica Hall said: >Does anyone know whether Anne Burns still deals with the LSAs >collection of microfilms. yes, but, as the automatic reply indicated, her day job is demanding at end of semester. hard to do in these days of instant online gratification, but the mi

[LUTE] Re: lyrics for right-left writing systems such as hebrew or arabic

2009-04-18 Thread demery
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009, Ed Durbrow said: > Why not compromise and go up and down like some Japanese notations? puts a crick in my neck, reading the music. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: lyrics for right-left writing systems such as hebrew or arabic

2009-04-17 Thread demery
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009, howard posner said: > The usual way is to set each syllable over its corresponding note, so > that the words are diced, > > ple am ex for this, Like , did you mean this al-lig-an _av-ah is set under music like this? ah-av_ an-ig-al an unnatural reorderi

[LUTE] lyrics for right-left writing systems such as hebrew or arabic

2009-04-17 Thread demery
Dumb question, some (perverse?) writing systems are contrary to western music notation, how does one set hebrew or arabic lyrics to western music? Only way I can think of is to transliterate phonetically into the roman alphabet, as in - hava nagila, hava nagila... I realize this presents certa

[LUTE] Re: Josquin

2009-04-07 Thread demery
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009, ariel abramovich said: > Dear friends, > > > This subject may have been discussed already... > > Is there any available list with references to all existent Josquin > intabulations for lute? online? maybe, lots of stuff online. A dated, but thorough list is likely to ex

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