Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

I buy BIC's by the bushel :-)-O el On 2018-05-16 13:30 , John Kane wrote: > Well, for elegant, scientific writing one can not beat this OS > https://www.gouletpens.com/namiki/c/483

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

I use a Lamy Safari with a European EF nib; it works just fine. If I need a finer line, then I use a Pilot Petit 1 with a Japanese EF nib. Seriously, though, folks. I suggest that OT advocacies of OSs or of writing instruments or of sexual practices not provoke mass responses. Look at

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On 05/16/2018 04:55 PM, Jim Rockford wrote: > > I remember from a long while back - years ago - that the Lyx installer > on Windows would ask you to point to the directory of your Latex > distribution.  I think a good accommodation would be a message > indicating that a Latex distribution has been

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

I remember from a long while back - years ago - that the Lyx installer on Windows would ask you to point to the directory of your Latex distribution. I think a good accommodation would be a message indicating that a Latex distribution has been identified (if one has), with a prompt asking users

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On 05/16/2018 12:25 PM, Baris Erkus wrote: > BTW, MikTeX seems to have another major update My understanding is that the issue that led to the installer delay was caused by a change to the way the packaging system works. The kind of upgrade you're seeing shouldn't cause that kind of problem.

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On 5/16/2018 5:58 PM, Julio Rojas wrote: Not Free (as in Gratis), though... ;) - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:30 AM, John Kane > wrote:

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

Not Free (as in Gratis), though... ;) - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:30 AM, John Kane wrote: > Well, for elegant, scientific writing one can not beat this OS >

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

Well, for elegant, scientific writing one can not beat this OS https://www.gouletpens.com/namiki/c/483 On 16 May 2018 at 00:42, Baris Erkus wrote: > On 15-May-18 10:15 PM, Jim Rockford wrote: > > > People are still taunting about this like schoolyard infants? Well, >

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On 15-May-18 10:15 PM, Jim Rockford wrote: People are still taunting about this like schoolyard infants? Well, here's a few reasons for you that apply to my case, Johnny boy: (1) I work in a scientific field and a specific laboratory that uses data analysis software for which there are only

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On 05/15/2018 05:36 PM, Julio Rojas wrote: > What I wanted to say is that the installer automatically gives the > option to use/download/install Texlive. Is it possible? Anything is possible...if someone's prepared to put in the effort. My sense is that this would not be that hard to do. You'd

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On 2018-05-15 14:47 -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > On 05/15/2018 11:46 AM, Julio Rojas wrote: > > On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck > wrote: > > On 05/11/2018 03:37 PM, Jim Rockford wrote: > > In my 20+ years in the world of

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

What I wanted to say is that the installer automatically gives the option to use/download/install Texlive. Is it possible? - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > On

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

Le 15/05/2018 à 22:59, Cris Fuhrman a écrit : That said, LyX under Ubuntu seems less flexible than under Windows, since it's not using MikTeX but TeXLive. As such, when a new package or something is needed, it can't install it on the fly. Perhaps I missed something about my Ubuntu install?

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

I started out using TRS-DOS in the 80s and have been on all operating systems over the years. ;-) I'm primarily a Windows user today, because of the work culture and the hardware I have (Surface Pro). But I've always believed that any kind of dogma regarding the "best flavor" of IT is dangerous

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

People are still taunting about this like schoolyard infants? Well, here's a few reasons for you that apply to my case, Johnny boy: (1) I work in a scientific field and a specific laboratory that uses data analysis software for which there are only Windows versions. I used Linux exclusively

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On 05/15/2018 11:46 AM, Julio Rojas wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck > > wrote: > > On 05/11/2018 03:37 PM, Jim Rockford wrote: > > In my 20+ years in the world of science, I have not known a single > > user of

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > On 05/11/2018 03:37 PM, Jim Rockford wrote: > > In my 20+ years in the world of science, I have not known a single > > user of Lyx (~50 in total) who wasn't computer savvy. Why not just > > include a warning

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On 2018-05-14 19:22, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: refused, and has refused again in the last couple days. His view is that this kind of warning will confuse some users and that those same users are at risk of having broken installations if we do not do the upgrade for them. So his view is that

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

I may be wrong but my understanding of the discussion is that we are moving towards a situation where LyX can only be installed if the latest MikTeX is or has been installed. If this is so, then I have some doubts whether this is wise and practical: 2018-05-14 11:08 GMT+02:00 Bernt Lie

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On 05/14/2018 05:08 AM, Bernt Lie wrote: > A slight update on my indicated procedure in #2: I am, of course, no > developer and no computer scientist. So let me indicate some understanding > also for decisions made on things I don't understand. > > Suppose... updating MikTeX leads to the

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

I do not why mails do not appear. I am sending again.. On 13-May-18 3:16 PM, Bernt Lie wrote: 1: I agree, and I didn't say so. Essentially, my point is that developers can not do that without compromising its OS agnostics. For various reasons, I use Windows myself. And I have full respect

RE: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

ists.lyx.org> On Behalf Of Steve Litt Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 10:55 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries On Mon, 14 May 2018 06:58:30 + Baris Erkus <bariser...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On 13-May-18 3:16 PM, Bernt Lie wrote

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On Mon, 14 May 2018 06:58:30 + Baris Erkus wrote: > On 13-May-18 3:16 PM, Bernt Lie wrote: > 1: I agree, and I didn't say so. Essentially, my point is that > developers can not do that without compromising its OS agnostics. For > various reasons, I use Windows myself.

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On 13-May-18 3:16 PM, Bernt Lie wrote: 1: I agree, and I didn't say so. Essentially, my point is that developers can not do that without compromising its OS agnostics. For various reasons, I use Windows myself. And I have full respect for others making different choices. I don't think the LyX

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

t;   >   >   > -Original Message----- > From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org <mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> > <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org <mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>> On Behalf > Of Steve Litt > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 7:49 > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org &l

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> on behalf of Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <lasgout...@lyx.org> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:58:52 PM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries Le 13/05/2018 à 14:16, Bernt Lie a écrit : > 1: I agree, and I didn't say so.

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 12:16:33PM +, Bernt Lie wrote: > For various reasons, I use Windows myself. And I have full respect for others > making different choices. I don't think the LyX list should be used for > negative description of OSes not used by oneself. +1. > 2: I see the point. If

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

Le 13/05/2018 à 14:16, Bernt Lie a écrit : 1: I agree, and I didn't say so. Essentially, my point is that developers can not do that without compromising its OS agnostics. For various reasons, I use Windows myself. And I have full respect for others making different choices. I don't think the

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

wer MikTeX version? Is the problem that a (possible) newer > version will not be backwards compatible?If I can update MikTeX to the latest > version, install LyX v. 2.3.0, and face no problem of backwards > compatibility, then I don’t see any problem. > > BL > > > &g

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

-Original Message- From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org<mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org<mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>> On Behalf Of Steve Litt Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 7:49 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org<mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> Subject: Re: T

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

then I don’t see any problem. > > BL > > > > > -Original Message- > From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> On Behalf Of Steve > Litt > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 7:49 > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: The tortured

RE: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

teve Litt Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 7:49 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries ROFLMAO, I ask myself this all the time, on multiple mailing lists. On the bright side, 90% of the heartache doesn't apply to me. SteveT On Sat, 12 May 201

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

ROFLMAO, I ask myself this all the time, on multiple mailing lists. On the bright side, 90% of the heartache doesn't apply to me. SteveT On Sat, 12 May 2018 20:03:09 -0700 John White wrote: > Why are people still using Windows? My firm gets along without Gates >

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

Why are people still using Windows? My firm gets along without Gates just fine. John White On Friday, May 11, 2018 4:18:17 PM PDT Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > On 05/11/2018 03:37 PM, Jim Rockford wrote: > > In my 20+ years in the world of science, I have not known a single > > user of Lyx

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

On 05/11/2018 03:37 PM, Jim Rockford wrote: > In my 20+ years in the world of science, I have not known a single > user of Lyx (~50 in total) who wasn't computer savvy.  Why not just > include a warning message that Lyx 2.3.0 may not function properly > with MiKTeX distributions that have not been