Re: El Capitan

2016-07-25 Thread Scott Granados
from there. >> >> Good luck and don't give in without a fight. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons >> Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 11:25 AM >> To: macvisionar

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-25 Thread Marie Lyons
ood luck and don't give in without a fight. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons > Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 11:25 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re:

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-25 Thread Marie Lyons
m] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons > Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 9:01 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: El Capitan > > No such item. The only thing in my app folder is “os 10 El Capitan app store > down load” When I click to open it nothing happens. > > Marie Lyo

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-25 Thread Kimber Gardner
That's what happened to me. For some reason my download had paused, so no matter how many times I tried to download the installer (because I didn't realized I had one that was suspended), I wasn't able to get it done. Finally, I had some sighted help who told me the download had paused and once it

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-25 Thread Scott Granados
That means it’s still trying to or needs to have the download resumed. > On Jul 24, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Marie Lyons wrote: > > No such item. The only thing in my app folder is “os 10 El Capitan app store > down load” When I click to open it nothing happens. > > Marie Lyons

RE: El Capitan

2016-07-25 Thread Simon Fogarty
plications folder and then run from there. Good luck and don't give in without a fight. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 11:25 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subje

RE: El Capitan

2016-07-25 Thread Simon Fogarty
2016 9:05 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: El Capitan Where would I look beside the app folder for such an app? It isn’t in the app folder. Marie Lyons > On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:35 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > That will happen if there is

RE: El Capitan

2016-07-25 Thread Simon Fogarty
g it again and see what happens. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons Sent: Monday, 25 July 2016 9:01 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: El Capitan No such item. The only thing in my

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-24 Thread E.T.
And verify the file size and date. The date the file was created might be the date it was downloaded to your system, I am not sure. Version on mine is 1.7.50. You say nothing happens when you open the file. To be sure, press VO f2 f2 to bring up the Window Chooser and see if there is a

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-24 Thread Marie Lyons
I am in the process of emptying the trash. I only have a CD player plugged into my computer. I don’t have an external hard drive. Marie Lyons > On Jul 24, 2016, at 5:40 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Install OS X El Capitan.app is the file name and should be 6.22gigs. If >

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-24 Thread Marie Lyons
Yes, you’re right. I was hitting the correct key. I just tried vo F1s and got the same result. I did not get any dialog box when I clicked on the El Capitan app. Marie Lyons > On Jul 24, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > I believe this is the correct item to

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-24 Thread E.T.
Try VO f1 f1. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 7/24/2016 2:03 PM, Marie Lyons wrote: This command doesn’t work on my computer. I presume the F1 key is right of the accent key? Marie On Jul 22, 2016, at 7:36 PM, Tim Kilburn

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-24 Thread E.T.
Install OS X El Capitan.app is the file name and should be 6.22gigs. If its not in the Applications folder but you cannot download it, there is either a copy in trash or on a connected external drive. Empty trash and/or disconnect all external drives. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-24 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I believe this is the correct item to open. Probably after clicking on the application a dialog box comes up to verify that you are doing something serious to your system. Also, the F1 key is the second key on the top row. The first key is the Escape key. Best wishes, Jonathan > On Jul

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-24 Thread Marie Lyons
Where would I look beside the app folder for such an app? It isn’t in the app folder. Marie Lyons > On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:35 PM, E.T. wrote: > > That will happen if there is an Install OS X anywhere on your system. > Disconnect all external drives and delete that

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-24 Thread Marie Lyons
This command doesn’t work on my computer. I presume the F1 key is right of the accent key? Marie > On Jul 22, 2016, at 7:36 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > It's also possible that the installer finished downloading, but it is not the > application with focus. Try

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-24 Thread Marie Lyons
No such item. The only thing in my app folder is “os 10 El Capitan app store down load” When I click to open it nothing happens. Marie Lyons > On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Hi Marie, > > Have a look in your applications folder for an install OS X

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-22 Thread Kimber Gardner
How do I know if I'm downloading the update? Please be specific with keystrokes as I am a total novice. Thanks, Kimber On 7/22/16, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > It's also possible that the installer finished downloading, but it is not > the application with focus. Try pressing

RE: El Capitan

2016-07-22 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Marie, Have a look in your applications folder for an install OS X el capitan appp and if it's there click on it to run then hopefully it will start the install. Good luck. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-22 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, It's also possible that the installer finished downloading, but it is not the application with focus. Try pressing VO-shift-f1-f1 to bring up the Application Chooser and see if the installer is available. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 22, 2016, at 16:35, E.T.

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-22 Thread E.T.
That will happen if there is an Install OS X anywhere on your system. Disconnect all external drives and delete that file from Applications and dump the trash. Then try again. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 7/22/2016 3:25 PM, Marie

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-04 Thread E.T.
No issues with text entry in search fields in iTunes and app store? Maybe its a setting? The only feedback I get is sounds but VO will speak characters when I arrow back and forth. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 7/4/2016 3:44 PM, Scott

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-04 Thread Scott Granados
This is how I do it as well. I’m not having the text spoken issue. It does lose focus when initially opening though I can confirm that same behavior. > On Jul 3, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > Alternatively, you can use the Window Chooser, VO-f2-f2 to

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-03 Thread Kevin Chao
These are VoiceOver regressions introduced in El Capitan and have not been resolved in Sierra. I.E. macOS-errors and not user... On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 2:45 PM Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > Alternatively, you can use the Window Chooser, VO-f2-f2 to bring focus to > the App Store

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-03 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Alternatively, you can use the Window Chooser, VO-f2-f2 to bring focus to the App Store window. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 3, 2016, at 15:29, E.T. wrote: For the app store issue, let it load and if it seems not to load, command tab

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-03 Thread E.T.
For the app store issue, let it load and if it seems not to load, command tab to another app then command tab back to the app store again for now. Text entry not being spoken in the search box, that I see. Arrow back and forth to hear what was entered. Don't know if there is a work

Re: El Capitan

2016-07-03 Thread matthew dyer
Hi, Yes launching the app store has tyhe same problem. Not having the problem with text not being spoken as I type, but again I usually don't use the app store other than to update the system and this is with the public beta of 10.11.6. Matthew On 07/03/2016 07:35 AM, Martin Brown

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-08 Thread Devin Prater
I've often wondered how good the Windows 10 is. Dictated from Voice Dream Mail. On Apr 8, 2016 at 6:02 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: Well, to be fair, many work environments are quite different to home ones—much stuffier and less fun, with more corporate-administered crap striving

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-08 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Well, to be fair, many work environments are quite different to home ones—much stuffier and less fun, with more corporate-administered crap striving hard to make the experience as unpleasant as possible. So, don’t judge Windows entirely on that theory. Indeed, judge it from BootCamp or inside

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-08 Thread Terje Strømberg
I want to try something in disk tools. So i have done a few Time Machine backups to Time Capsule. Then i connected an Sandisk 128GB ssd with thunderbolt cable. Erased the Sandisk. Restarted the iMac, helkd down command-r, installed from Time Machine backup on the Sandisk ssd with thunderbolt

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Scott
And see, I was thinking of doing a youtube posting of me taking an HP Laptop running windows 10 with JFW to the firing range and putting a 308 (7.62MM X51) round right through the center. I have had through out my life including now nothing but fear and loathing with Microsoft products with

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Scott
You mean it just works.:) And that is the apple way. Or it was anyway. That’s the hope then, . My experience is like yours I still find El Capitan to be the worst named but smoother running of the OS X instances. I’m thinking about it though and I wonder if my experience is colored by the

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Scott
My experience mirrors yours more closely I think. I freshly installed from Crucial USB flash drive with out issue. That in combination with SSD makes for a fairly speedy and clean install. One thing once in a while I get stuck where it won’t read my status, a simple VO restart clears the

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Sadam Ahmed
Everyone has different workflows. As another list member has pointed out activities and using Safari where VoiceOver jumps all over the place in El Capitan is very painful. In comparison I find my BootCamp version of Windows 10 and JAWS 17 to be remarkably stable. Thanks for writing in. I

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Devin Prater
For me, El Capitan is pretty good... Gosh, Alex for iOS still can't say Capitan. Anyways, it works fine, besides a little business every once in a while. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > Hi. > > I like El Cap and don’t find

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi. I like El Cap and don’t find it a head ache at all. I don’t see many bugs either and if anything does go wrong, just turn voice over off and on by pressing Command F5. It’s better than windows because I use windows every day and always have problems with my windows although it’s a work

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread E.T.
Yes twice, just like it says in the message you pasted. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/7/2016 1:03 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Twice? On the support page it says once. /A On 07

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Twice? On the support page it says once. /A > On 07 Apr 2016, at 20:23, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > If you’re experiencing slowness directly after a completely clean install, > try an NVRAM reset. Press Command-Option-P-R and hold them as soon as you > hear the chime

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread E.T.
I sure hope I did as that was the very first step after booting into the installer. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/7/2016 12:58 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: You erased your internal

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
You erased your internal drive before doing the install onto it? If so then you’ve got a clean install. If not, don’t forget to do that first with Disk Utility from inside the booted installer environment. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Strange. I just did a reinstall a clean one and for me things works like a charm. I had problems at first because i never use the login screen but now i have learned that too. Chrome is the only problem so far but its a small problem which doesn’t bother me much as safari works great on some

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread E.T.
Did not do it wrong. I use DiskMaker X and booted from the USB installer it created. I actually disconnected all external drives so there was no mistakingly booting from the wrong drive. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past.

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Sadam Ahmed
Thanks all for the feedback. El Capitan sounds like a big headache. I think I'll stay put with Yosemite. Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- > On 8 Apr 2016, at 5:00 AM, Terje Strømberg wrote: > > i am thinking your clean install maybe is wrong i.e. you did

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Terje Strømberg
i am thinking your clean install maybe is wrong i.e. you did not boot into the external install osx El Capitan. Just guessing. Erase McIntosh HD before install. Do not download from iCloud and do not log in before OSX is installed. Download each app one and one from payed apps in app store.

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Terje Strømberg
No big problems with El Capitan here. Restart voice over occasionally. Normal vo comands in Safari. Have not learned hot spot. vo-i is often used in Safari. Sometimes i get busy in apps and Safari, but not often. Late 2012 iMac. Its easy to use Time Machine backup. At least with Time Capsule

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread E.T.
Have done that a time or two and just did it now. Had to restart the Mac after it booted. An issue I see on occasion is where I might be arrowing menu extras or desktop icons and VO will not speak alternate items. Example, speak A skip B speak C skip D and so on. The busy is still there

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
If you’re experiencing slowness directly after a completely clean install, try an NVRAM reset. Press Command-Option-P-R and hold them as soon as you hear the chime at boot. Keep held until you hear the chime at least twice in succession. -- The following information is important for all

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread E.T.
No more dumb than the rest of us. Or is that no less dumb? I dunno. Heh. Know anything about running diagnostics? I think I will shoot an email to Apple. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Scott
Interesting, I haven’t run in to these but this is probably do to hardware differences and I’m to dumb to know it’s not working correctly. lol Either is possible. > On Apr 7, 2016, at 1:36 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Scott, > I have posted a time or two about these things.

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread E.T.
Scott, I have posted a time or two about these things. This is why I did a clean install, in the hopes of correcting many issues. I do not hate El Cap, I hate the aggravations. (smiles) The VO issues made setting up the clean install extremely painful at times. I looked into

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Scott
I didn’t read about your specific bluetooth or voice issues but personally I find El Capitan pretty stable and good although I do run the public betas. Right now though I’m on 10.11.4 like everyone else and not hating it. But that’s me. Others may have specific gripes that just aren’t in my

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread E.T.
I don't think anyone is asking for the perfect OS, but asking for others' perspectives. "Its not that bad" is purely subjective. Its that bad if you must rely on hearing accurate feedback via Voiceover. This is not annoying, its beyond that. Now if you have solutions to the speech

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Sadam Ahmed
Thanks for the candid feedback. Sounds like El Capitan is a real productivity killer. I, too, downgraded after the initial install. Best regards, Sadam Ahmed LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/sadam-ahmed-04121258 > On 8 Apr

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
As of El Capitan 10.11.4, I downgraded to Yosemite 10.10.5. Yosemite has issues, but nothing like the nonsense in El Crap, which Apple are clearly never going to get around to fixing until macOS 12 gets released. Activities and hotspots, which both matter to me, for example, are still

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Aleeha Dudley
Really, honestly, it's not that bad. If you want a system without bugs, build it yourself because it just does not exist. I think you'll find it difficult to produce. Sighted people have bugs too. It's not just us. In my opinion, upgrade and deal with what comes. It's the only way the bugs will

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Carter Temm
another bug that I am aware of has to do with safari. When you are is safari and command-tab to get to another app, it will sometimes keep placing you in safari no matter what you do. It will also read the text your cursor was on when you switched to another app. I don't know the steps to

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Sadam Ahmed
Oh my goodness, what a mess. Think I'll stay put with my current workflow. On 4/8/2016 1:27 AM, E.T. wrote: Forgot this. When bringing up the app store, most times focus is lost and command tab to another app then back fixes it. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Sadam Ahmed
I did actually install it when it came out way back but hated the experience so reverted. Thanks for the feedback. Sadam Ahmed On 4/8/2016 12:44 AM, Carter Temm wrote: I use El Capitan daily on my macbook pro mid 2012 and it works just fine. Of course their are occasional bugs, but that's

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread E.T.
I just finished a clean install of El Capitan. I still have a bit of work to complete but here is what I see so far. VoiceOver will say “There is no item with keyboard focus”. This occurs fairly randomly, both in native Apple apps and third party apps. You lose focus of the app you were

Re: El Capitan and VoiceOver.

2016-04-07 Thread Carter Temm
I use El Capitan daily on my macbook pro mid 2012 and it works just fine. Of course their are occasional bugs, but that's expected. I'd say go ahead and upgrade. Also, make a time machine backup if you can. That way if you seriously hate it, you can downgrade. In my opinion Yosemite was a horrible

Re: El Capitan and Bluetooth

2016-04-03 Thread Daniel Chavez
If you pare your headset enough the Mac should auto-connect to it. If you reset your PRAM, though, you may have to pare the headset for a while until the Mac remember's it again. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions

RE: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 8:36 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install Lol don't mention it. I think the only way that Apple will fix this issue is if more of us sends an email to accessibil...@apple.com or if people are using the betas like

Re: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-31 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
ter > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk > Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 7:58 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install > > Hi

RE: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install I did notice this as well, so I too would be interested in the outcome. Activities are still broken though, which is the primary reason I downgraded to Yosemite on my iMac. I had an ac

RE: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 7:58 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install Hi Simon and E.T. I know what's going on. Since the first release of El Capitan, and even in the betas

Re: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-31 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
I did notice this as well, so I too would be interested in the outcome. Activities are still broken though, which is the primary reason I downgraded to Yosemite on my iMac. I had an activity specifically to use Safari, which did some optimisations for the web, but since activities aren’t

Re: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-31 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk > Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 7:58 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install > > Hi Simon and E.T. I know what's going on. Since the first release of El > Capi

RE: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Shawn, If that works I'm yours. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 7:58 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install Hi Simon and E.T

Re: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-31 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. > Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 2:07 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install > > Simon, >What commands were you using that do not work now? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... >ancient.ali...@icloud.com &

Re: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-30 Thread E.T.
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 3:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install Ok. That has worked for me but I may have had to use VO up or down in some areas, can't recall just where. From E.T.'s Keyboard

RE: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 3:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install Ok. That has worked for me but I may have had to use VO up or down in some areas, can't recall just where

Re: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-30 Thread E.T.
if that corrects anything But again that's a last resort. Cheers, Simon F -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 2:07 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean

RE: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. > Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 5:03 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install > > Not so fast. I had the same issue when I booted up this morning. I did > another cold boot and w

Re: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-30 Thread E.T.
March 2016 5:03 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install Not so fast. I had the same issue when I booted up this morning. I did another cold boot and will do a couple more later just to make sure. Its driving me mad. (smiles) A new Mac in my future? From

RE: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 5:03 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install Not so fast. I had the same issue when I booted up this morning. I did another cold boot and will do a couple more later just to make sure

Re: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-30 Thread E.T.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install It finally came to me to do a PRAM. If only I did that this morning. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 3/29/2016 7:12 PM, M

RE: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: El Capitan Clean Install I am so glad you were able to resolve this issue. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:31 PM To: macvisionaries

RE: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-29 Thread M. Taylor
I am so glad you were able to resolve this issue. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:31 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: El Capitan Clean Install

Re: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-29 Thread E.T.
It finally came to me to do a PRAM. If only I did that this morning. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 3/29/2016 7:12 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hi, Are you using the Apple EarPods with your Mac? Or a

Re: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-29 Thread E.T.
Third party. Have to use neckloops with my hearing devices. Yosemite was very solid in this department. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 3/29/2016 7:12 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hi, Are you using

RE: El Capitan Clean Install

2016-03-29 Thread M. Taylor
Hi, Are you using the Apple EarPods with your Mac? Or a third-party item. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:05 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: El Capitan Clean Install

Re: el capitan performance

2016-03-25 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
: RE: el capitan performance Hi Christopher, Yeah not an issue with setup. The machine is a later 2013 mac book air, Purchased late july that year, Custom build I7 processor, 8Gig ram and 512 GB ssd drive 11 inch, Installed now OSX 10.11.3, Drive

RE: el capitan performance

2016-03-25 Thread Simon Fogarty
appreciated. Simon f From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Saturday, 26 March 2016 1:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: el capitan performance You say you've not seen another setup like your's

Re: el capitan performance

2016-03-25 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401. - Original Message - From: Simon Fogarty To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:51 PM Subject: RE: el capitan performance Yeah I’ts an odd ball I”ve not seen it on other machines, but I haven’t seen

RE: el capitan performance

2016-03-25 Thread Simon Fogarty
: Saturday, 26 March 2016 1:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: el capitan performance I'm using 10.11.4 as of now, however that being said, I did have Bootcamp installed on 10.11.3, and I never saw the behavior you're describing. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016

Re: el capitan performance

2016-03-25 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401. - Original Message - From: "Terje Strømberg" <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> To: "Mac Group" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 7:21 PM Subject: Re: el capitan performance A mail tips. In the adress fi

Re: el capitan performance

2016-03-25 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'm using 10.11.4 as of now, however that being said, I did have Bootcamp installed on 10.11.3, and I never saw the behavior you're describing. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401. - Original Message

Re: el capitan performance

2016-03-25 Thread Terje Strømberg
A mail tips. In the adress field, if you want to send to more than one, you can hit «enter» and type the next e-mail adress. Enter is the key in the «subject» field also, therefore i mentioned it, after typing the subject, you can hit «enter» again and the cursor are right in the main text edit

Re: El Capitan observations

2016-01-27 Thread E.T.
Andrew, Interesting approach. Downloading the file now. Might do this and see if it helps any. Thanks. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 1/27/2016 1:35 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: Hi, I read

Re: El Capitan observations

2016-01-27 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi, I read somewhere in Apple's support pages or somewhere similar, that it is best when upgrading, to install from the so called combo installer. You can download the combosx installer from apple's support pages. Just do a ssearch for it. the file should read as follows:

Re: El Capitan and Voiceover

2016-01-26 Thread E.T.
Time Machine is ok. I was thrown off by sound effects which I will explore further. Will be looking at some odd behaviour though after I have used El Capitan for a while. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it

Re: el capitan upgrade pod cast

2015-12-13 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I believe that if you install MAC OS Server, it will cache installs for other machines on your network. On 11 December 2015 at 16:49, Mike Arrigo wrote: > The problem with this approach is that each time an update is released, > you have to recreate the install in order to

Re: el capitan upgrade pod cast

2015-12-13 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Yes, OS X Server’s Caching service will cache not only MAS downloads, but also the downloads of ESD images used during the recovery process. The problem is that the cache doesn’t easily migrate between Macs, so the Mac that hosts the cache is itself going ultimately to need another copy direct

Re: el capitan upgrade pod cast

2015-12-11 Thread Mike Arrigo
The problem with this approach is that each time an update is released, you have to recreate the install in order to keep it up to date. Using the recovery method, though it takes longer, always installs the newest operating system right away. Original message: You could always download El

Re: el capitan upgrade pod cast

2015-12-11 Thread ilovecountrymusic483
Mike. I am waiting on my disk maker to finish making the biotin lie sd card for my iMac man it takes a wile. I started the prodded at 2:30 and it is still coping installer files. Great podcast. Matthew Sent from my iPod > On Dec 10, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Re: el capitan upgrade pod cast

2015-12-11 Thread Mike Arrigo
It would be nice if that were the case, but, unless Apple has changed things, each operating system has its own recovery installer, that's why the upgrade has to be installed first. Original message: Hi Mike, I was under the impression that if re-installing the OS from the recovery

Re: el capitan upgrade pod cast

2015-12-11 Thread Bill Dengler
You could always download El Capitan from the app store, then use createinstallmedia (in the resources folder) to create a USB installer. Then boot from that and install. Bill > On Dec 11, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > Nice work, Mike. > > As you

Re: el capitan upgrade pod cast

2015-12-11 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
That’s true, but this of course requires you repeat that for every little update. The advantage of the recovery method is that the stick you build should be very stable. If only every Mac on a network could cache software from Apple, and replicate the cache content to other Macs. Just like

Re: el capitan upgrade pod cast

2015-12-11 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Nice work, Mike. As you discovered, the Erase function of Disk Utility now allows you to choose the partition scheme. The Partition function allows you to partition disks. I love the idea of using the Recovery HD from a USB drive, and I’m glad to see that the Recovery Disk Assistant still

Re: el capitan upgrade pod cast

2015-12-10 Thread Phil Halton
Hi Mike, I was under the impression that if re-installing the OS from the recovery partition, the latest Version of the OS would be installed. So, even if, as I’mn my case, you were running Yosemite and you reinstalled from the yosemite recovery partition, it would bring down and install El

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