Subject: Re: PR1.3 and Ogg-support

2010-11-04 Thread Tony Green
Erik Hovland wrote: I ran into the same problem. I did do the reinstall. But I had to also run 'tracker-processes -r' and then reboot to get my files seen. YMMV. Curious... While I was trying to diagnose the problem I looked at whether the tracker was finding the files OK and on my machine at

PR1.3 and Ogg-support

2010-11-03 Thread Tony Green
Anybody who has Ogg-support may have noticed that their Ogg-Vorbis files no longer appear in the media player (though it can still play them if they're in a playlist). Bug 11511 (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11511) refers to this. The answer is to unistall and reinstall Ogg-support

Re: PR1.3 and Ogg-support

2010-11-03 Thread Petteri
Tony Green kirjoitti ke 3. marraskuuta 2010 11:02:04: Anybody who has Ogg-support may have noticed that their Ogg-Vorbis files no longer appear in the media player (though it can still play them if they're in a playlist). Bug 11511 (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11511) refers

Re: PR1.3 and Ogg-support

2010-11-03 Thread Erik Hovland
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:02 AM, Tony Green t...@beermad.org.uk wrote: Anybody who has Ogg-support may have noticed that their Ogg-Vorbis files no longer appear in the media player (though it can still play them if they're in a playlist). Bug 11511 (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11511

Re: Ogg support

2008-03-31 Thread Matt Emson
Tuomas Kulve wrote: Media Player doesn't allow you to open ogg files directly but when the Metalayer Crawler adds your oggs to the Library then you can play the oggs from there with the Media Player. Metalayer-crawler is the first thing I disable and remove after reflashing my N800. It is

[Fwd: Error in email to twine.com (was Re: Re: Ogg support)]

2008-03-31 Thread Matt Emson
Anyone got an idea what on earth this is on about? Has somebody subscribed with an email address that would generate this kind of junk? M Original Message Subject:Error in email to twine.com (was Re: Re: Ogg support) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:22:18 -0500 (CDT) From

Re: [Fwd: Error in email to twine.com (was Re: Re: Ogg support)]

2008-03-31 Thread James Knott
Matt Emson wrote: Anyone got an idea what on earth this is on about? Has somebody subscribed with an email address that would generate this kind of junk? I've also been getting them. Perhaps whoever maintains the mail list can remove whatever user in on twine.com -- Use OpenOffice.org

Re: [Fwd: Error in email to twine.com (was Re: Re: Ogg support)]

2008-03-31 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 07:35:42AM -0400, James Knott wrote: Matt Emson wrote: Anyone got an idea what on earth this is on about? Has somebody subscribed with an email address that would generate this kind of junk? I've also been getting them. Perhaps whoever maintains the mail list

Re: [Fwd: Error in email to twine.com (was Re: Re: Ogg support)]

2008-03-31 Thread Henrik Frisk
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 07:35:42AM -0400, James Knott wrote: Matt Emson wrote: Anyone got an idea what on earth this is on about? Has somebody subscribed with an email address that would generate this kind of

Ogg support

2008-03-30 Thread James Knott
I've just installed ogg support on my N800, running OS2008. When I try to play an ogg file, I get asked what application to use. I select Media Player (ogg) and the file plays. I can also open mp3 files with the same player. However, whne in the regular player, I cannot play ogg

Re: Ogg support

2008-03-30 Thread Tuomas Kulve
James Knott wrote: I've just installed ogg support on my N800, running OS2008. When I try to play an ogg file, I get asked what application to use. I select Media Player (ogg) and the file plays. I can also open mp3 files with the same player. However, whne in the regular player, I

Re: Ogg support

2008-03-30 Thread James Knott
Tuomas Kulve wrote: James Knott wrote: I've just installed ogg support on my N800, running OS2008. When I try to play an ogg file, I get asked what application to use. I select Media Player (ogg) and the file plays. I can also open mp3 files with the same player. However, whne

This may account for lack of ogg support by Nokia

2007-12-10 Thread james
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071210-nokia-wants-w3c-to-remove-out-ogg-from-upcoming-html5-standard.html ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: Aw: Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-11-04 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le mardi 30 octobre 2007 à 10:58 +0100, Tu-zrz a écrit : Would it make sense to add a table with different AP to document which AP works with setting xyz unter itos 200x and which will not? I don't have any objection :) I started to combine a

Re: Aw: Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-11-04 Thread Frédéric Crozat
Le lundi 05 novembre 2007 à 08:55 +0200, Kalle Valo a écrit : ext Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le mardi 30 octobre 2007 à 10:58 +0100, Tu-zrz a écrit : Would it make sense to add a table with different AP to document which AP works with setting xyz unter itos 200x and

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-30 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le mardi 30 octobre 2007 à 09:36 +0200, Kalle Valo a écrit : ext Frédéric Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My AP (Freebox, an ISP set-top-box) seems to support WLAN PSM properly. If you have problems WLAN standby times I'm not yet convinced that your AP work correctly. After

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-30 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Frédéric Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My AP (Freebox, an ISP set-top-box) seems to support WLAN PSM properly. If you have problems WLAN standby times I'm not yet convinced that your AP work correctly. After more tests, it appears both my AP don't support full PSM :( I'm

Aw: Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-30 Thread Tu-zrz
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung - Von: Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: ext Frédéric Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users maemo-users@maemo.org Gesendet: Di., 30. Okt. 2007 08:36:01 CET Betreff: Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support ext Frédéric Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-30 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le mardi 30 octobre 2007 à 09:02 +0100, Frederic Crozat a écrit : Le mardi 30 octobre 2007 à 09:36 +0200, Kalle Valo a écrit : ext Frédéric Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried disabling Wii and it didn't bring any improvement, since PSM is really a problem for both my AP. I'll

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-27 Thread Frédéric Crozat
Le jeudi 25 octobre 2007 à 08:05 +0300, Kalle Valo a écrit : ext Frédéric Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: o Buggy AP which does not support WLAN PSM properly. My AP (Freebox, an ISP set-top-box) seems to support WLAN PSM properly. If you have problems WLAN standby times I'm not yet

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-26 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just of curiosity, who is issuing the DNS query? The Nintendo Wii device? N800 shouldn't see DNS requests made by other devices. DNS is unicast and N800 shouldn't see unicast packets between AP and other WLAN clients. Doesn't multicast DNS use

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-26 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, mixing quotes (sorry). Yesterday I moved this debate to maemo-developers since the current topic about repositores and policies affects developers only. See Bugs at maemo for extras apps (was Re: Steve's Ranty Review...)

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-25 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 08:05:22AM +0300, Kalle Valo wrote: It seems Nintendo Wii standby mode is causing arp and DNS query, seen on n800, every 10 minutes. If it's only one ARP and DNS query, every 10 minutes is not that bad. Just of curiosity, who is issuing the DNS query? The Nintendo

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-25 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Kemal Hadimli [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some of the developers won't use the repositories no matter what you do, and as far as I can tell/analyze, the reasons are: - It's hard (well, not well-documented) to get access to, and to set up keys etc. - Distributing files from garage

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-25 Thread Nick Phillips
On 26/10/2007, at 10:57 AM, Steve Greenland wrote: According to Kemal Hadimli [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some of the developers won't use the repositories no matter what you do, and as far as I can tell/analyze, the reasons are: - It's hard (well, not well-documented) to get access to, and to set

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support and the repository question

2007-10-24 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 04:30:50PM +, Steve Greenland wrote: Probably the easiest workable solution is something like the Debian unstable/testing process, whereby packages are uploaded to unstable, and migrate to testing after meeting certain criteria (no new serious bugs, installs with

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support and the repository question

2007-10-24 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Mikhail Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 04:30:50PM +, Steve Greenland wrote: Probably the easiest workable solution is something like the Debian unstable/testing process, whereby packages are uploaded to unstable, and migrate to testing after meeting

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-24 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Frédéric Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: o Buggy AP which does not support WLAN PSM properly. My AP (Freebox, an ISP set-top-box) seems to support WLAN PSM properly. If you have problems WLAN standby times I'm not yet convinced that your AP work correctly. I also have a Fonera. Is

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-22 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ext Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My personal pet peeve with the app manager is all those confirmation dialogs. Yeah, and there will be more in the future... There should be at

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-22 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How important is it to fix this? I'm working on the assumption that you would only activate Show all packages in an emergency, but would usually leave it off (precisely because it decreases the

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-22 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope the document that you refer to is not screwed up. I will check myself. Nope, it's fine. Please read it again. :) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-22 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How important is it to fix this? I'm working on the assumption that you would only activate Show all packages in an emergency, but would usually

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-22 Thread Kemal Hadimli
On 10/22/07, Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: much faster. But I'm a little baffled -- it still shows (some) lib* packages, which I would consider the first thing to filter out, since they'll be installed by dependencies, and there is little reason (for a non-developer, at least) to

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-21 Thread Frédéric Crozat
Le samedi 20 octobre 2007 à 10:24 +0300, Kalle Valo a écrit : ext Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just curious : is the n800 really supposed to last days when connected via Wifi (with full WLAN Power Save mode enabled), without any disconnect timeout and anything doing network

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-20 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just curious : is the n800 really supposed to last days when connected via Wifi (with full WLAN Power Save mode enabled), without any disconnect timeout and anything doing network access on the wifi link ? Short answer: Yes, even with the default

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-20 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Krischan Keitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a shame that there are so many broken APs on the market. I see lots of them when dealing with bug reports :( I guess WLAN Power Save Mode was really rare earlier, but fortunately nowadays it's getting more popular and AP manufactures have

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-20 Thread James Sparenberg
On Friday 19 October 2007 03:51:29 Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My personal pet peeve with the app manager is all those confirmation dialogs. Yeah, and there will be more in the future... There should be at least one before starting the operation,

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-20 Thread James Sparenberg
On Friday 19 October 2007 08:35:51 dave wrote: It should stay online for days, not hours. Something is wrong with your setup. I would guess that the AP is somehow broken regards to WLAN Power Save Mode. Can you try with some other AP to see if it helps? Also make sure that N800 isn't

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-20 Thread James Sparenberg
On Friday 19 October 2007 09:26:07 Steve Greenland wrote: According to James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 18 October 2007 11:30:34 Marius Gedminas wrote: I sincerely hope Maemo Extras rejects sourceless packages. Marius Gedminas Marius, I would hope that they

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support and the repository question

2007-10-20 Thread James Sparenberg
On Friday 19 October 2007 09:30:50 Steve Greenland wrote: According to Krischan Keitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The optimum may be between the two - meaning we need some kind of a quality management for the community efforts. To approve that just verified and checked apps are in the official and

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-20 Thread James Sparenberg
On Friday 19 October 2007 09:44:53 Steve Greenland wrote: According to James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I fully understand what it's doing but not why it's doing it. Since the act of doing the first update is the equivalent of apt-get update However if you use Adept/Synaptic/dpkg

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-20 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Samstag, 20. Oktober 2007 schrieben Sie: ext Krischan Keitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a shame that there are so many broken APs on the market. I see lots of them when dealing with bug reports :( I guess WLAN Power Save Mode was really rare earlier, but fortunately nowadays it's

Re: N810 is here -- whitout ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Krischan Keitsch
users as well as linux power users and developers. The average user might not care as much about ogg support or not (keeping in mind that the number of ogg content on the web increases) but we linux power users do. And we have been asking for ogg (dsp based) support since the early 770 OS2005 days

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How important is it to fix this? I'm working on the assumption that you would only activate Show all packages in an emergency, but would usually leave it off (precisely because it decreases the useability so much). The problem is that while in

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I fully understand what it's doing but not why it's doing it. Since the act of doing the first update is the equivalent of apt-get update However if you use Adept/Synaptic/dpkg etc the act of the update accumulates all of this

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support and the repository question

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Krischan Keitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The optimum may be between the two - meaning we need some kind of a quality management for the community efforts. To approve that just verified and checked apps are in the official and universe repositories. So that Jill Random and ourselves can

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 18 October 2007 11:30:34 Marius Gedminas wrote: I sincerely hope Maemo Extras rejects sourceless packages. Marius Gedminas Marius, I would hope that they reject binary packages period, in that like every distro I've

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
this: STEPS TO REPRODUCE: 1. Install code package codec-foo from repository bar 2. Browse to URL foo.bar.org/songs.html and tap to the song.foo file EXPECTED RESULT: - Mediaplayer starts to play nice-song.foo And to do that, we need expected to work but doesn't work ogg support package

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:32 +0300, Kalle Valo a écrit : ext Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know what the killer feature is? Automatic wifi connection. I absolutely hate it when I have to tap the silly little globe, then tap the connect menu item, then wait a few

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 12:11 +0200, Krischan Keitsch a écrit : Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat: Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : So, there shouldn't be any need for any Maemo specific specs, these things are documented in

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
, unfortunately.. - file manager or browser not launching the media player properly This part works fine, mediaplayer is launched properly Please file bugs. Before filling bugs against maemo, I think it would be better to only have one ogg support package available for 770 / n800 (and soon n810) to make

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 schrieb Collin R. Mulliner: OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also this won't utilize the DSP). I don't agree with ogg = nerd

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 11:32:12AM +0300, Kalle Valo wrote: ext Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I could keep my tablet online all the time, of course, but then the battery wouldn't last till the end of the day. It should stay online for days, not hours. I didn't mean to imply

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Tilman Vogel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederic Crozat schrieb: And to do that, we need expected to work but doesn't work ogg support package. And unfortunately, neither mogg or ogg-support packages are in this state for n800 (one lack schema and the other is not registering

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: - mediaplayer not playing the file I think the problem is here, unfortunately :( Developper documentation is a little too scarce about media player, unfortunately. . Unfortunately. Am I wrong when I identify the missing source of the media player as part

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (In other words, it is conservative when removing things. Not like aptitude that goes and deletes half your OS if you are not careful.. :) Aww, cmon, this is mostly fixed in aptitude these days. Besides, it made life exciting! Yep, I should try

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Krischan Keitsch
have one ogg support package available for 770 / n800 (and soon n810) to make sure efforts are not duplicated. Yepp! Convergence instead of parallel efforts! Time to puzzle should be over in order to mature this platform. As a sidenote, from my distribution persective (I'm GNOME maintainer

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thursday 18 October 2007 20:01:36 Steve Greenland wrote: According to James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: a. open AM b. get asked if I want to update package lists. c. click to browse installable packages. d. wait for update packages (why it just did an update.)

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ext Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My personal pet peeve with the app manager is all those confirmation dialogs. Yeah, and there will be more in the future... There should be at least one before starting the operation, Please

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My personal pet peeve with the app manager is all those confirmation dialogs. Yeah, and there will be more in the future... There should be at least one before starting the operation, and we can't get rid of the legal Notice dialog for

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Krischan Keitsch
as it applies to the specific packages, of course. Current state of ogg support, 17-October-2007. Summary: the good news is that you can play oggs with N800. The bad news? Read on...but let me first throw out a big thank you to all the people who have worked on this. I rant because it's more

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Tilman Vogel
! Steve Greenland schrieb: Current state of ogg support, 17-October-2007. Firstly, for some unknown reason there are *two* different ogg support packages. One, from Tuomas Kulve, I'll call 'ogg-support'. The second, by Marko Nykanen and Tilman Vogel (according to the garage page,but see below

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Kemal Hadimli
On 10/18/07, Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: debug1: confirm x11 X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. Interesting, it works here with openssh, and DISPLAY is :0.0 during that. My guess is dropbear does things differently. Unsetting DISPLAY, I get this:

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Tilman Vogel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 BTW, if you feel like it, you could put your review into http://maemo.org/community/wiki/playingoggfiles/ Regards, Tilman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Digression: why am I not using the Application Manager? Well, besides the fact that apt-get is the One True Way, the AM is *slow*. And unreliable (upgrades and updates often fail, but work with apt-get). And there's no obvious way to upgrade

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you give more information about how the AM is slower than apt-get? Do you need to perform too many clicks in the UI to get your task done, or do you have to wait longer until it has downloaded and installed the packages? Mostly it's the

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Krischan Keitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: to a) Were are all the apps? One thing that we are missing is a 'distribution' (the debian or ubuntu way) with primary repositories and additional repos. etc. Actually, I think we *have* that repo: repository.maemo.org. The problem is that

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Kemal Hadimli [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/18/07, Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: debug1: confirm x11 X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. Interesting, it works here with openssh, and DISPLAY is :0.0 during that. My guess is dropbear does things

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you give more information about how the AM is slower than apt-get? Do you need to perform too many clicks in the UI to get your task done, or do you have to wait longer until it has downloaded

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 08:16:51PM +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: I am happy that the AM seems to be good enough that some hackers actually consider using it instead of apt-get You know what the killer feature is? Automatic wifi connection. I absolutely hate it when I have to tap the silly

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mostly it's the clicking/browsing issue. Ok, understood. This seems to be the general I am much more productive at the command line than with a WIMP interface situation. I can very much

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 04:48:35PM +, Steve Greenland wrote: According to Krischan Keitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: to a) Were are all the apps? One thing that we are missing is a 'distribution' (the debian or ubuntu way) with primary repositories and additional repos. etc. Actually,

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Jac Kersing
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Marius Gedminas wrote: I could keep my tablet online all the time, of course, but then the battery wouldn't last till the end of the day. Have you tried? My N800 is always connected and the battery lasts a couple of days. Only when I start hitting the CPU it starts to

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 09:15:39PM +0200, Jac Kersing wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Marius Gedminas wrote: I could keep my tablet online all the time, of course, but then the battery wouldn't last till the end of the day. Have you tried? Yes. My N800 is always connected and the battery

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Onto the players. Austin Che wrote and pointed out that I'd missed the MPD (music player daemon) port. This intrigued, because I use and quite like MPD on my home system. For those unfamiliar with it, it splits the player into the server process

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Kemal Hadimli
On 10/18/07, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: schedule). Also, I have this paranoid habit of looking for a charger as soon as the battery meter drops from 4 bars to 3. yep. the battery meter is not accurate/linear. it takes ages to drop from 4 bars to 3. then it takes less and less

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Tilman Vogel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi again! Steve Greenland schrieb: After the re-install, I've got /usr/share/mime/audio/x-vorbis.xml, which is: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? mime-type xmlns=http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/shared-mime-info; type=audio/x-vorbis

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Austin Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Greenland): ...but MPD is not a good solution for an N800 standalone player *at this time*. There are two big issues. I just have to say I've been using mpd exclusively as my media player for over a month and

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Steve Greenland
According to James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: a. open AM b. get asked if I want to update package lists. c. click to browse installable packages. d. wait for update packages (why it just did an update.) Actually, the update here is updating the

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thursday 18 October 2007 10:16:51 Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you give more information about how the AM is slower than apt-get? Do you need to perform too many clicks in the UI to get your task

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thursday 18 October 2007 11:30:34 Marius Gedminas wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 04:48:35PM +, Steve Greenland wrote: snip My other pet peeve is that this encourages binary-only debs which you can't then fix/port to a different SDK version. I sincerely hope Maemo Extras rejects

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-18 Thread Michael Wiktowy
again! Steve Greenland schrieb: Current state of ogg support, 17-October-2007. Firstly, for some unknown reason there are *two* different ogg support packages. One, from Tuomas Kulve, I'll call 'ogg-support'. The second, by Marko Nykanen and Tilman Vogel (according to the garage page

Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-17 Thread Steve Greenland
state of ogg support, 17-October-2007. Summary: the good news is that you can play oggs with N800. The bad news? Read on...but let me first throw out a big thank you to all the people who have worked on this. I rant because it's more fun to write rants, and because if you don't write about the problems

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-17 Thread Kemal Hadimli
don't know. Why are people so enamoured of having album covers on a memory limited device? I don't know that, either, but at least you can disable it. Anyway, once you get past the niggly bits, it works. Well, with mogg, but not, AFAICT, with ogg-support. With ogg-support, it finds the oggs

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-17 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Kemal Hadimli [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry about the ticket stuff, and thanks for the ranty review :) Thanks for taking it in the intended spirit. Scanner is ran on postinst with a special parameter (--install) to either upgrade/wipe the song db or to update the theme cache. It