Re: [MBZ] Adobe Flash

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Craig wrote:

> I recall comments denigrating Adobe Flash on this List and when
> I saw the below I thought y'all might be interested:
> 
> 
> https://www.adobe.com/products/players/flash-player-distribution.html
> 
> Adobe will be ending support for Flash Player after December
> 31st, 2020.

They dropped support for Linux years ago - while it was still
popular enough that some users "required" it.

I have very little - er, really _nothing_ - good to say about
Flash.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Exactly! 

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> On Jul 8, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Why i will never live in a hood with a HOA.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 7:10 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Let's assume your HOA covenants ban possession of motor vehicles with
>> 'moderately severe body damage'.
>> 
>> Questions:
>> 1. Is that phrase too vague to be enforceable?
>> 2. If it's enforceable, is it considered an adhesive contract that must be
>> interpreted to favor the accused homeowner to any extent in which it is
>> considered vague?
>> 
>> Now let's assume that one of your vehicles has an original 1965 paint job,
>> and might be described as 'patina', or as 'moderately severe paint damage',
>> but it's a straight rustfree example with zero body damage.
>> And let's say your HOA has sued you for $3k in violation fees and asked
>> the court for permission to foreclose on your home...
>> 
>> How many of us have old MBZ with clearcoat leprosy?
>> Is that a danger if you have a HOA?
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.thedrive.com/news/27914/missouri-mans-hoa-overlords-say-vintage-1965-ford-f-250-pickup-truck-must-go-or-lose-his-home
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, we’re a “nice” board. Pretty laid back and approachable.

What’s bad is that because HOA and condo boards are horribly inconsistent, the 
legislature has gotten involved here. That means that we have to enforce by the 
book, by the rule, no exceptions. Conversely, if it’s not clearly specified in 
the community standards (covenants) we can’t deny it, unless it’s a zoning or 
conflict with County ordinances.

It’s forced us to rewrite our community standards to go into great detail on 
damned near everything we can think of, since if we leave anything out it’s 
fair game and we can’t do squat about it.

-D


> On Jul 8, 2019, at 8:26 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Town where I live, almost every decent house is in an HOA.  Our board is very 
> fair, maybe too soft.
> 
> I need to buy another piece of land outside town, bare land, no HOA, to be 
> free.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Town where I live, almost every decent house is in an HOA.  Our board is very 
fair, maybe too soft.

I need to buy another piece of land outside town, bare land, no HOA, to be free.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

*cant 

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> On Jul 8, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> HOA is a cancer on society. I can fathom anybody buying a house with one 
> attached. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2019, at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, we do have a restriction on commercial trucks - not allowed in your 
>> driveway overnight. You have a business? Park your truck someplace else.
>> 
>> Sorry.
>> 
>> I know of some communities around here that don’t allow trucks in the 
>> driveway, period, but they’re usually pretty high end properties. Heck, the 
>> neighborhood where Tony Dungee (former Buccaneers coach) lived they didn’t 
>> allow motorcycles. At all. If you owned bikes you had to trailer them in and 
>> out of the community.
>> 
>> Understand that these were $1M+ homes, too.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2019, at 7:53 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On July 8, 2019 at 7:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 
 I wouldn’t classify that as damage.
 
 Damn, that’s a tough HOA. Worse thing we do is bust people for 
 non-operable/non-registered cars, and that’s only of they’re crappy 
 looking or have obvious issues like flat tires.
>>> 
>>> Non-operable, flat tires etc is what the truck owner thinks he has a HOA to 
>>> get rid of. 
>>> 
>>> Here's another truck story, coincidentally a 1965 Ford, new paint, his 
>>> parents get the garage, kid's collector truck sits outside. HOA trustee 
>>> likes the truck, but it draws neighbor complaints.  Rule states: no trucks, 
>>> commercial vehicles, motorcycles etc may be parked outside for more than 4 
>>> nights per year. 
>>> https://youtu.be/tZWSiIBsSRI?t=100
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

HOA is a cancer on society. I can fathom anybody buying a house with one 
attached. 

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> On Jul 8, 2019, at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, we do have a restriction on commercial trucks - not allowed in your 
> driveway overnight. You have a business? Park your truck someplace else.
> 
> Sorry.
> 
> I know of some communities around here that don’t allow trucks in the 
> driveway, period, but they’re usually pretty high end properties. Heck, the 
> neighborhood where Tony Dungee (former Buccaneers coach) lived they didn’t 
> allow motorcycles. At all. If you owned bikes you had to trailer them in and 
> out of the community.
> 
> Understand that these were $1M+ homes, too.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2019, at 7:53 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On July 8, 2019 at 7:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wouldn’t classify that as damage.
>>> 
>>> Damn, that’s a tough HOA. Worse thing we do is bust people for 
>>> non-operable/non-registered cars, and that’s only of they’re crappy looking 
>>> or have obvious issues like flat tires.
>> 
>> Non-operable, flat tires etc is what the truck owner thinks he has a HOA to 
>> get rid of. 
>> 
>> Here's another truck story, coincidentally a 1965 Ford, new paint, his 
>> parents get the garage, kid's collector truck sits outside. HOA trustee 
>> likes the truck, but it draws neighbor complaints.  Rule states: no trucks, 
>> commercial vehicles, motorcycles etc may be parked outside for more than 4 
>> nights per year. 
>> https://youtu.be/tZWSiIBsSRI?t=100
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Re: [MBZ] Q For Dan or Kaleb

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

So 1mb. Thanks!


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Re: [MBZ] Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 16:13:01 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I included the link earlier in this thread fyi
> 
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 9:58 AM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 22:00:37 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah we have the steady stream of prime stuff showing up.
> >
> > What was the URL of the stuff you bought?


> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Well, I did search the list archives and found:


[MBZ] Small victory Max Dillon via Mercedes
Re: [MBZ] Small victory Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Re: [MBZ] Small victory Curley McLain via Mercedes
Re: [MBZ] Small victory Curley McLain via Mercedes
Re: [MBZ] Snatching defeat from the j... Karl Wittnebel
Re: [MBZ] Snatching defeat from t... Max Dillon
Re: [MBZ] Snatching defeat fr... Clay Monroe
  Re: [MBZ] Snatching defe... Max Dillon
Re: [MBZ] Snatching ... Karl Wittnebel
   Re: [MBZ] Snatch... Meade Dillon
   Re: [MBZ] Snatch... Karl Wittnebel
   Re: [MBZ] Snatch... Craig
   Re: [MBZ] Snatch... Meade Dillon
   Re: [MBZ] Snatch... Karl Wittnebel


The film was first mentioned in your email of Sat, 06 Jul 2019 18:18:08
-0700, where you changed the subject, but I find no mention of a link
there or afterwards.

Did I miss something?


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, we do have a restriction on commercial trucks - not allowed in your 
driveway overnight. You have a business? Park your truck someplace else.

Sorry.

I know of some communities around here that don’t allow trucks in the driveway, 
period, but they’re usually pretty high end properties. Heck, the neighborhood 
where Tony Dungee (former Buccaneers coach) lived they didn’t allow 
motorcycles. At all. If you owned bikes you had to trailer them in and out of 
the community.

Understand that these were $1M+ homes, too.

-D


> On Jul 8, 2019, at 7:53 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On July 8, 2019 at 7:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I wouldn’t classify that as damage.
>> 
>> Damn, that’s a tough HOA. Worse thing we do is bust people for 
>> non-operable/non-registered cars, and that’s only of they’re crappy looking 
>> or have obvious issues like flat tires.
> 
> Non-operable, flat tires etc is what the truck owner thinks he has a HOA to 
> get rid of. 
> 
> Here's another truck story, coincidentally a 1965 Ford, new paint, his 
> parents get the garage, kid's collector truck sits outside. HOA trustee likes 
> the truck, but it draws neighbor complaints.  Rule states: no trucks, 
> commercial vehicles, motorcycles etc may be parked outside for more than 4 
> nights per year. 
> https://youtu.be/tZWSiIBsSRI?t=100
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On July 8, 2019 at 7:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I wouldn’t classify that as damage.
> 
> Damn, that’s a tough HOA. Worse thing we do is bust people for 
> non-operable/non-registered cars, and that’s only of they’re crappy looking 
> or have obvious issues like flat tires.

Non-operable, flat tires etc is what the truck owner thinks he has a HOA to get 
rid of. 

Here's another truck story, coincidentally a 1965 Ford, new paint, his parents 
get the garage, kid's collector truck sits outside. HOA trustee likes the 
truck, but it draws neighbor complaints.  Rule states: no trucks, commercial 
vehicles, motorcycles etc may be parked outside for more than 4 nights per 
year. 
https://youtu.be/tZWSiIBsSRI?t=100

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Re: [MBZ] Q For Dan or Kaleb

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 17:42:25 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> What's the attachment size limit before a post gets held for approval?

Rick,

I just sent a "test message" to the list which I knew was over the limit
and when I got the "Your message to Mercedes awaits moderator approval"
email, I immediately canceled it.

The "Your message to Mercedes awaits moderator approval" email said:


 Your mail to 'Mercedes' with the subject

 test message

 Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

 The reason it is being held:

 Message body is too big: 2302815 bytes with a limit of 1050 KB

 Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
 notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to
 cancel this posting, please visit the following URL:


I knew the limit was just over 1000 kB, but I did not remember the exact
number.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Q For Dan or Kaleb

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Beats me. Used to be something like 40k. I think Kleb jacked it to 100k, but 
not sure. You’ll have to wait for his response.

If you do send something and it goes into the queue to be approved, email me 
immediately so I know to approve it. Otherwise it will get tossed out with the 
rest of the spam in the byte bucket.

-D


> On Jul 8, 2019, at 1:42 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What's the attachment size limit before a post gets held for approval?
> 
> Rick
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Why i will never live in a hood with a HOA.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 7:10 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Let's assume your HOA covenants ban possession of motor vehicles with
> 'moderately severe body damage'.
>
> Questions:
> 1. Is that phrase too vague to be enforceable?
> 2. If it's enforceable, is it considered an adhesive contract that must be
> interpreted to favor the accused homeowner to any extent in which it is
> considered vague?
>
> Now let's assume that one of your vehicles has an original 1965 paint job,
> and might be described as 'patina', or as 'moderately severe paint damage',
> but it's a straight rustfree example with zero body damage.
> And let's say your HOA has sued you for $3k in violation fees and asked
> the court for permission to foreclose on your home...
>
> How many of us have old MBZ with clearcoat leprosy?
> Is that a danger if you have a HOA?
>
>
> https://www.thedrive.com/news/27914/missouri-mans-hoa-overlords-say-vintage-1965-ford-f-250-pickup-truck-must-go-or-lose-his-home
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I wouldn’t classify that as damage.

Damn, that’s a tough HOA. Worse thing we do is bust people for 
non-operable/non-registered cars, and that’s only of they’re crappy looking or 
have obvious issues like flat tires.

There’s a house up near one of the entrances to our neighborhood that has a 
Mustang in the driveway that’s clearly not moved for at least a year. No plate, 
but otherwise to the average observer it would just look like a car parked in 
someone’e driveway.

I suggested that they back the car in so the lack of a license plate isn’t 
visible.

They haven’t, so if someone gets their nose out of joint or they piss off a 
neighbor the HOA won’t have a choice but to cite them.

-D


> On Jul 8, 2019, at 7:09 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Let's assume your HOA covenants ban possession of motor vehicles with 
> 'moderately severe body damage'.
> 
> Questions:
> 1. Is that phrase too vague to be enforceable?
> 2. If it's enforceable, is it considered an adhesive contract that must be 
> interpreted to favor the accused homeowner to any extent in which it is 
> considered vague?
> 
> Now let's assume that one of your vehicles has an original 1965 paint job, 
> and might be described as 'patina', or as 'moderately severe paint damage', 
> but it's a straight rustfree example with zero body damage. 
> And let's say your HOA has sued you for $3k in violation fees and asked the 
> court for permission to foreclose on your home...
> 
> How many of us have old MBZ with clearcoat leprosy?
> Is that a danger if you have a HOA?
> 
> https://www.thedrive.com/news/27914/missouri-mans-hoa-overlords-say-vintage-1965-ford-f-250-pickup-truck-must-go-or-lose-his-home
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Re: [MBZ] 95 diesel wagon

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I thought that cupro-nickel brake line stuff was really easy to form. Is it as 
bad as copper for work-hardening?

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann via 
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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2019 3:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 diesel wagon

Copper tube has the bad habit of work hardening, then cracking, in
vibration applications... Diesel engines vibrate Oil lines to/from
turbo cracking would cause loss of engine oil pressure not a happy
event.


On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:38 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> Seems to work ok for Mercedes. I dont trust that flexi stuff right between
> the hot sides of the turbos and the manifold. It comes off the block next
> to the downpipe.
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 3:10 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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>
> > On 08/07/2019 5:03 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Ok thanks. I just made a miscalculation on the diameter difference. The
> > > flare tool is metric. I will get some of that 10mm copper brake line,
> as
> > > stainless will be harder to flare. Both holset turbos are metric. I
> have
> > a
> > > 3/8" bender but it should work ok despite the 0.02" diameter
> difference.
> > >
> >
> > Will hard line like that stand up to vibration? You said this was an oil
> > supply line to a turbo so you don't want it to fail.
> >
> > Are there stainless flex hoses that you could get and use?
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I included the link earlier in this thread fyi

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 9:58 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 22:00:37 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Yeah we have the steady stream of prime stuff showing up.
>
> What was the URL of the stuff you bought?
>
> I'm thinking of protecting the new J.W. Speaker lights I am going to put
> on our Kenworth at Daniel Stern's recommendation with some of that stuff.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> > On Sun, Jul 7, 2019, 3:44 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Did you get your film from Amazon or ???
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 4:11 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > My old lenses were basically sandblasted. The film definitely
> > > > prevents that over time.
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[MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Let's assume your HOA covenants ban possession of motor vehicles with 
'moderately severe body damage'.

Questions:
1. Is that phrase too vague to be enforceable?
2. If it's enforceable, is it considered an adhesive contract that must be 
interpreted to favor the accused homeowner to any extent in which it is 
considered vague?

Now let's assume that one of your vehicles has an original 1965 paint job, and 
might be described as 'patina', or as 'moderately severe paint damage', but 
it's a straight rustfree example with zero body damage. 
And let's say your HOA has sued you for $3k in violation fees and asked the 
court for permission to foreclose on your home...

How many of us have old MBZ with clearcoat leprosy?
Is that a danger if you have a HOA?

https://www.thedrive.com/news/27914/missouri-mans-hoa-overlords-say-vintage-1965-ford-f-250-pickup-truck-must-go-or-lose-his-home

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Re: [MBZ] 95 diesel wagon

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> On July 8, 2019 at 6:46 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ok then back to stainless.

Turbo supply lines tend to be hard steel of some sort. 

For Randy: We don't need flex line because one end of the rigid line is solidly 
attached to the engine, and the other end is solidly attached to the turbo 
which is solidly attached to the engine.

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Re: [MBZ] 95 diesel wagon

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Ok then back to stainless.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 3:45 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Copper tube has the bad habit of work hardening, then cracking, in
> vibration applications... Diesel engines vibrate Oil lines to/from
> turbo cracking would cause loss of engine oil pressure not a happy
> event.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:38 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Seems to work ok for Mercedes. I dont trust that flexi stuff right
> between
> > the hot sides of the turbos and the manifold. It comes off the block next
> > to the downpipe.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 3:10 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 08/07/2019 5:03 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > Ok thanks. I just made a miscalculation on the diameter difference.
> The
> > > > flare tool is metric. I will get some of that 10mm copper brake line,
> > as
> > > > stainless will be harder to flare. Both holset turbos are metric. I
> > have
> > > a
> > > > 3/8" bender but it should work ok despite the 0.02" diameter
> > difference.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Will hard line like that stand up to vibration? You said this was an
> oil
> > > supply line to a turbo so you don't want it to fail.
> > >
> > > Are there stainless flex hoses that you could get and use?
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 95 diesel wagon

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Copper tube has the bad habit of work hardening, then cracking, in
vibration applications... Diesel engines vibrate Oil lines to/from
turbo cracking would cause loss of engine oil pressure not a happy
event.


On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:38 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> Seems to work ok for Mercedes. I dont trust that flexi stuff right between
> the hot sides of the turbos and the manifold. It comes off the block next
> to the downpipe.
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 3:10 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On 08/07/2019 5:03 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Ok thanks. I just made a miscalculation on the diameter difference. The
> > > flare tool is metric. I will get some of that 10mm copper brake line,
> as
> > > stainless will be harder to flare. Both holset turbos are metric. I
> have
> > a
> > > 3/8" bender but it should work ok despite the 0.02" diameter
> difference.
> > >
> >
> > Will hard line like that stand up to vibration? You said this was an oil
> > supply line to a turbo so you don't want it to fail.
> >
> > Are there stainless flex hoses that you could get and use?
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 95 diesel wagon

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Seems to work ok for Mercedes. I dont trust that flexi stuff right between
the hot sides of the turbos and the manifold. It comes off the block next
to the downpipe.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 3:10 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 08/07/2019 5:03 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Ok thanks. I just made a miscalculation on the diameter difference. The
> > flare tool is metric. I will get some of that 10mm copper brake line, as
> > stainless will be harder to flare. Both holset turbos are metric. I have
> a
> > 3/8" bender but it should work ok despite the 0.02" diameter difference.
> >
>
> Will hard line like that stand up to vibration? You said this was an oil
> supply line to a turbo so you don't want it to fail.
>
> Are there stainless flex hoses that you could get and use?
>
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Re: [MBZ] AC troubleshooting help for Floyd

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Yeah thanks. I did that the other day and got some codes which really didn’t 
make sense. I need to put the gauges on, I put a can with a pressure gauge on 
the other day and it looked like it was OK but the diagnostic suggested the 
refrigerant pressure was low. 

Thing is it will blow cold sometimes for quite awhile, sometimes for a few 
seconds, most of the time not at all. Maybe one of the codes relates to that 
behavior though I have not seen anything in the forums that explicitly relates 
to these codes or behavior. 

--FT
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> On Jul 8, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Should work for your $500 E300 Turbodiesel, maybe for other cars in your
> fleet.
> 
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/3825171-post6.html
> 
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] Adobe Flash

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Good riddance.  Flash used to send a PC into 100% CPU use before actually 
running anything, and it's both buggy beyond belief and about as secure as 
MSDOS 3.0.

I can't figure out how a video player can burn up so much CPU time doing 
nothing.
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Re: [MBZ] 95 diesel wagon

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On 08/07/2019 5:03 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

Ok thanks. I just made a miscalculation on the diameter difference. The
flare tool is metric. I will get some of that 10mm copper brake line, as
stainless will be harder to flare. Both holset turbos are metric. I have a
3/8" bender but it should work ok despite the 0.02" diameter difference.



Will hard line like that stand up to vibration? You said this was an oil 
supply line to a turbo so you don't want it to fail.


Are there stainless flex hoses that you could get and use?



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Re: [MBZ] 95 diesel wagon

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Ok thanks. I just made a miscalculation on the diameter difference. The
flare tool is metric. I will get some of that 10mm copper brake line, as
stainless will be harder to flare. Both holset turbos are metric. I have a
3/8" bender but it should work ok despite the 0.02" diameter difference.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 11:54 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> >But those assume the things he is trying to join with the tubing will
> accept 10 mm tubing
>
>
>  He's making bubble flares, which are metric. So they should accept the
> bigger tubing. Your idea will probably work, or he could knurl the tubing
> somehow and get it to not slip.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Some Folks

[MG via Mercedes]

connect a alternator to it and make all kinds of extra 
electricity!!


MG

Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Some guy was posting pictures of an intake manifold with a turbo mounted in it. 
Not sure what it was for, but it looked hopped up.

Maybe it’s for a 240D. Heh. I want to see that video.

-D


On Jul 6, 2019, at 9:17 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes  
wrote:

Still there. None of those cars will be around long.

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019, 6:14 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The stacked thing was a few weeks back

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Jul 6, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Haven’t seen any yet, just the horribly slammed car. Ugh. I hope they

bottom out on a speed bump. A lot.

-D



On Jul 6, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

U yea. Have they starting posting their exhaust sticking out of the

hood pics yet?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 6, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Man that FB w123 group is kind of hopeless. Some dude was asking about
turbo boost gauges, what type to get, where to put it. I happen to

have one

in the w124, so I chimed in and opined that they are completely

useless.

The original poster then gets all hurt that he doesn't like my tone and
that I "told me what to do in a tone that I don't like". He then went

on to

say that I should watch my manners "if you want to get any respect

around

here". Keep in mind, basically I said this: "Just rig up a temporary

line

to the intake, find out what you need to find out, and then take it

back

off again".

Someone else figured they would set me straight by saying "all gauges

are

useless".

A real triumph of critical thinking, that place. Complete waste of

time.

Blind leading the blind, and no one seems to want to hear anything they
haven't already thought of.

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 5:46 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Use psuedonyms here...
Some folks use psuedonyms on FB.
I welcome Peeps to the 123 page.
I know who you are Hahaha.

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT Andrew got his picture in the news

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 12:39:22 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> SO is it finally time to "Drain the Swamp"?
> [sarcasm folks... just sarcasm]..

https://www.wnd.com/2019/07/unprecedented-aoc-panics-over-heavy-rain-in-d-c/

WND EXCLUSIVE
'Unprecedented': AOC panics over heavy rain in D.C.
'The GOP will mock & sow confusion until it's their home swept away'


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Andrew got his picture in the news

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Our swamp is 50% bigger since 1/21/17, providing excellent habitat for
lobbyists, who are thriving and multiplying.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:40 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
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> SO is it finally time to "Drain the Swamp"?
> [sarcasm folks... just sarcasm]..
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:28 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> > Not me - I never wear pink shirts or drive a sedan.
> >
> > This sort of flash flooding hasn't hit the DMV area more than a couple
> time
> > in the past 50 years, IIRC.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 12:58 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> > > More canal than road at the moment.
> > >
> > > -MMM-
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:51 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> > >
> > > > On 08/07/2019 11:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://wtop.com/weather-news/2019/07/flash-flood-risk-continues-for-dc-region-on-monday-morning/slide/1/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Notice the name of the flooded street?
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Re: [MBZ] OT Andrew got his picture in the news

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SO is it finally time to "Drain the Swamp"?
[sarcasm folks... just sarcasm]..

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:28 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Not me - I never wear pink shirts or drive a sedan.
>
> This sort of flash flooding hasn't hit the DMV area more than a couple time
> in the past 50 years, IIRC.
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 12:58 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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>
> > More canal than road at the moment.
> >
> > -MMM-
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:51 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> >
> > > On 08/07/2019 11:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://wtop.com/weather-news/2019/07/flash-flood-risk-continues-for-dc-region-on-monday-morning/slide/1/
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] 95 diesel wagon

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

 
>But those assume the things he is trying to join with the tubing will
accept 10 mm tubing


 He's making bubble flares, which are metric. So they should accept the bigger 
tubing. Your idea will probably work, or he could knurl the tubing somehow and 
get it to not slip. 

 

Rick

 

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Re: [MBZ] 95 diesel wagon

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On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 17:04:08 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> >Or, you could wrap it with 9 turns of 1 mil (0.001") shim stock --
> >which
> will be much easier to handle.
> 
> Or buy this.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Copper-Nickel-Brake-Line-CN-10MM/dp/B00JG7KHQA/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?keywords=10mm+copper+nickel+tubing=1562604698=gateway=8-8
> 
> Or this.
> 
> 
> https://store.fedhillusa.com/cnf10mmx3ft-10mmodtubingx3footcoil.aspx


But those assume the things he is trying to join with the tubing will
accept 10 mm tubing. If they will only accept 3/8" tubing and he is
trying to use a 10 mm tool because that's what he has, it is a different
story.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Some Folks

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

They seem to feed off of each other’s stupidity. 

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>> Are you talking about
> 
> No. This one. 
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT YAAAAASSSSSSSS!!!!

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"Repainted in two-tone green with orange pinstriping"

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 12:41 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 09:17:11 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I want this so bad
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-lincoln-continental-3/
>
> The auction says:
>
> Modifications to the two-door body were performed by Oz Kustoms and
> included a 2.5″ roof chop, shaving the badges and door handles,
> flaring the rocker panels, and lowering the rear wheel arches. The
> paint scheme was designed and applied by Gene Winfield and features
> House of Kolor Kandy Pearl Copper, Cinnamon, and Kandy Root Beer hues
> blended into White Pearl side stripes. A grille with a floating chrome
> bar was fabricated by Greg Westbury of Concord, California, who also
> reshaped the bumpers, added chrome bullets to the taillights, and
> installed Lucas-style headlamps. Chrome fender peak strips were added
> by Frank De Rosa Customs.
>
> Oz Kustoms was tasked with chassis modifications including
> modification of the frame members to accommodate lowering of the
> suspension on airbags. Chrome wire 15″ wheels feature spinner hubcaps
> and are mounted with Coker Classic Broadway whitewall tires all
> around.
>
> The cabin is trimmed in white biscuit-quilted and tuck and roll
> leatherette featuring copper piping and mohair accents. The
> transmission tunnel was raised to accommodate the raised driveshaft
> resulting from the other chassis modifications. Interior work was
> performed by Divine’s Custom Interiors in Martinez, California, with
> the same patterns carried into the trunk.
>
> So the question for you is, "Why?"
>
> I think I would rather have
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1929-packard-626-convertible-coupe/
>
> or even
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-bond-equipe-4s/,
>
> which, with 1:39 left to go, is being shown little love at $1500.
>
>
> Craig
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[MBZ] Sheepskin seat covers

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

For AZ Bob.

https://www.comfysheep.com/semi-custom-sheepskin-seat-cover.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT Andrew got his picture in the news

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not me - I never wear pink shirts or drive a sedan.

This sort of flash flooding hasn't hit the DMV area more than a couple time
in the past 50 years, IIRC.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 12:58 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> More canal than road at the moment.
>
> -MMM-
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:51 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On 08/07/2019 11:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> >
> https://wtop.com/weather-news/2019/07/flash-flood-risk-continues-for-dc-region-on-monday-morning/slide/1/
> > >
> > >
> > Notice the name of the flooded street?
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Re: [MBZ] Some Folks

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The thermostat thing drives people crazy, it's so easy to prove but...
Curt

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  On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 6:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes wrote:   They are not really contentious they 
just don’t really listed to advise. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2019, at 8:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, let’s see…
> 
> I explained to some doofus about why they can’t run their OM617 without a 
> thermostat, and that’s also not a means of diagnosis for overheating.
> 
> I discussed the reasons why the MBCA sucks in some places and not others.
> 
> Not sure what other little tidbits I contributed, but those were the big ones 
> so far, and they weren’t the least bit contentious. I was waiting for some 
> sort of blowback over the thermostat thing, but nothing so far.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2019, at 9:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yea right. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 4, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m trying. So far all I’ve done is help.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 4, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 So has Poos pissed anybody off over there yet? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 4, 2019, at 7:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
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> 
> Use psuedonyms here...
> Some folks use psuedonyms on FB. 
> I welcome Peeps to the 123 page. 
> I know who you are Hahaha. 
> 
> Rick
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[MBZ] AC troubleshooting help for Floyd

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Should work for your $500 E300 Turbodiesel, maybe for other cars in your
fleet.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/3825171-post6.html

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Re: [MBZ] Some Folks

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

haha yeah that's it

On 7/8/19 1:42 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Are you talking about

No. This one.

Rick



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Re: [MBZ] OT Pex

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 17:40:06 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> We have the opposite problem, our water is a bit basic, I've been
> replacing all of our type m with the thicker stuff, type f?

Type L


> I figure if the original thin stuff went 40 years this should do pretty
> well.

Good thought.


> Our house is small, there isn't that much plumbing. I did half last
> summer, I'll do the rest this year.

Have fun!


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[MBZ] Q For Dan or Kaleb

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

What's the attachment size limit before a post gets held for approval?

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT Pex

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We have the opposite problem, our water is a bit basic, I've been replacing all 
of our type m with the thicker stuff, type f? I figure if the original thin 
stuff went 40 years this should do pretty well. Our house is small, there isn't 
that much plumbing. I did half last summer, I'll do the rest this year.

Curt

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  On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 5:02 PM, Scott Ritchey via 
Mercedes wrote:   Depends.  My well water is slightly 
acid, not enough to be unhealthy but enough to eat copper pipes (especially 
thin wall - type M).  The 40-year old copper in my house developed leaks, 
especially flexible tubing but the rigid stuff broke easily too.  I replaced 
all with PEX or black poly for the feed from pump.

> -Original Message-
> From:  OK Don 
> 
> Perhaps the best "PEX" system is copper tubing??? New is not always better.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Amazon, 3M clear protection film, cut to match your surface.
-
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On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 12:58 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> What was the URL of the stuff you bought?
>
>
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[MBZ] Adobe Flash

[Craig via Mercedes]

I recall comments denigrating Adobe Flash on this List and when I saw the
below I thought y'all might be interested:


https://www.adobe.com/products/players/flash-player-distribution.html

Adobe will be ending support for Flash Player after December 31st, 2020.
We recommend that Flex and ActionScript application and content owners
convert their code to other technology platforms as soon as possible.
For help in this process, HARMAN is equipped and experienced to make
platform recommendations and provide a full range of engineering
support.  Please reach out to them for additional information.



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Some Folks

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 07:43:26 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Some guy was posting pictures of an intake manifold with a turbo
> mounted in it. Not sure what it was for, but it looked hopped up.

Are you talking about 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1995-Mercedes-Benz-E-Class/283536817481

with the picture

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/La4AAOSwhFpdHXPB/s-l1600.jpg ?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 95 diesel wagon

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>Or, you could wrap it with 9 turns of 1 mil (0.001") shim stock -- which
will be much easier to handle.

Or buy this.

https://www.amazon.com/Copper-Nickel-Brake-Line-CN-10MM/dp/B00JG7KHQA/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?keywords=10mm+copper+nickel+tubing=1562604698=gateway=8-8

Or this.


https://store.fedhillusa.com/cnf10mmx3ft-10mmodtubingx3footcoil.aspx

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Re: [MBZ] Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 22:00:37 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Yeah we have the steady stream of prime stuff showing up.

What was the URL of the stuff you bought?

I'm thinking of protecting the new J.W. Speaker lights I am going to put
on our Kenworth at Daniel Stern's recommendation with some of that stuff.


Craig


> On Sun, Jul 7, 2019, 3:44 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Did you get your film from Amazon or ???
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 4:11 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > My old lenses were basically sandblasted. The film definitely
> > > prevents that over time.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Andrew got his picture in the news

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More canal than road at the moment.

-MMM-

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> On 08/07/2019 11:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> https://wtop.com/weather-news/2019/07/flash-flood-risk-continues-for-dc-region-on-monday-morning/slide/1/
> >
> >
> Notice the name of the flooded street?
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Re: [MBZ] OT Andrew got his picture in the news

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On 08/07/2019 11:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
https://wtop.com/weather-news/2019/07/flash-flood-risk-continues-for-dc-region-on-monday-morning/slide/1/ 




Notice the name of the flooded street?


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Re: [MBZ] OT BaT RaThole -- this is gorgeous

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 10:43:43 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> While I’m not keen on the color, as cars like this should all be
> painted a dark color or black, it is cool.

And then there is the front grille

https://cdn.bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/1947_dodge_custom_that_is_the_name_of_the_model_1560774201cdd740da7fb1dfDSCN0497.jpg

Speak about chrome!


Craig


> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1947-dodge-custom/

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Re: [MBZ] Some Folks

[G Mann via Mercedes]

That's a great discussion to get started on the facebook "I don't listen"
crowd "I have a 240 I want to turbo and turn up the IP pump to really
"roll coal" with... it's "slammed" and blah blah blah

You should be able to wind them up tight with that one... ;))

I have a complete spare engine for a 240, with trans attached speedo in
the crate [wrecked early car] reads 45,000 miles. Sell it to the hot rod
twits make a buck for us... or have some fun with it have fun.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 4:44 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> Some guy was posting pictures of an intake manifold with a turbo mounted
> in it. Not sure what it was for, but it looked hopped up.
>
> Maybe it’s for a 240D. Heh. I want to see that video.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 6, 2019, at 9:17 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Still there. None of those cars will be around long.
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 6, 2019, 6:14 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The stacked thing was a few weeks back
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jul 6, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Haven’t seen any yet, just the horribly slammed car. Ugh. I hope they
> >> bottom out on a speed bump. A lot.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Jul 6, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  U yea. Have they starting posting their exhaust sticking out of
> the
> >> hood pics yet?
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 6, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Man that FB w123 group is kind of hopeless. Some dude was asking
> about
> > turbo boost gauges, what type to get, where to put it. I happen to
> >> have one
> > in the w124, so I chimed in and opined that they are completely
> >> useless.
> > The original poster then gets all hurt that he doesn't like my tone
> and
> > that I "told me what to do in a tone that I don't like". He then went
> >> on to
> > say that I should watch my manners "if you want to get any respect
> >> around
> > here". Keep in mind, basically I said this: "Just rig up a temporary
> >> line
> > to the intake, find out what you need to find out, and then take it
> >> back
> > off again".
> >
> > Someone else figured they would set me straight by saying "all gauges
> >> are
> > useless".
> >
> > A real triumph of critical thinking, that place. Complete waste of
> >> time.
> > Blind leading the blind, and no one seems to want to hear anything
> they
> > haven't already thought of.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 5:46 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Use psuedonyms here...
> >> Some folks use psuedonyms on FB.
> >> I welcome Peeps to the 123 page.
> >> I know who you are Hahaha.
> >>
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[MBZ] OT Andrew got his picture in the news

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://wtop.com/weather-news/2019/07/flash-flood-risk-continues-for-dc-region-on-monday-morning/slide/1/

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1974 MERCEDES 450 SE

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Great airport if you’re going to the Bawstun ‘burbs. 10 gates, no waiting. 
Beats the heck out of Logan.

-D

> On Jul 8, 2019, at 12:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My (former) wife did a stretch at The Manch (Manchester VA hospital) during 
> her residency.  It was for their personal and professional development, quite 
> a reputation amongst the visiting physicians.  Oh my.  The stories from her 
> and her colleagues... you have NO idea...
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 7/8/19 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> LOL.  Where does Floyd get these bon mots?
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:13 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>nice michlin tires
>> 
>>Up in the Manch, where the tattoo to tooth ratio is particularly high
>> 
>>--FT
>> 
>>On 7/8/19 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Painful to imagine all the hidden rust...
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 11:23 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fya
>>>>
>>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>>> From: mailto:nore...@craigslist.org>>
>>>> Date: Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 10:55 PM
>>>> Subject: 1974 MERCEDES 450 SE
>>>> To: mailto:fred4s...@gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> fred4s...@gmail.com  forwarded you
>>this from craigslist:
>>>> --
>>>> 1974 MERCEDES 450 SE
>>>>
>>>> https://nh.craigslist.org/pts/6928581583.html
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Please go to the preferences page
>>>> <
>>>>
>>
>> https://accounts.craigslist.org/eafprefs/U2FsdGVkX18xMDU0OTEwNXCHeeazUejGVnelzjOaI45j21329PZIhAi3000G6EgyxCXUpRn_EEe-TXX4eIWaPA
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Re: [MBZ] OT YAAAAASSSSSSSS!!!!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 09:17:11 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I want this so bad
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-lincoln-continental-3/

The auction says:

Modifications to the two-door body were performed by Oz Kustoms and
included a 2.5″ roof chop, shaving the badges and door handles,
flaring the rocker panels, and lowering the rear wheel arches. The
paint scheme was designed and applied by Gene Winfield and features
House of Kolor Kandy Pearl Copper, Cinnamon, and Kandy Root Beer hues
blended into White Pearl side stripes. A grille with a floating chrome
bar was fabricated by Greg Westbury of Concord, California, who also
reshaped the bumpers, added chrome bullets to the taillights, and
installed Lucas-style headlamps. Chrome fender peak strips were added
by Frank De Rosa Customs.

Oz Kustoms was tasked with chassis modifications including
modification of the frame members to accommodate lowering of the
suspension on airbags. Chrome wire 15″ wheels feature spinner hubcaps
and are mounted with Coker Classic Broadway whitewall tires all
around.

The cabin is trimmed in white biscuit-quilted and tuck and roll
leatherette featuring copper piping and mohair accents. The
transmission tunnel was raised to accommodate the raised driveshaft
resulting from the other chassis modifications. Interior work was
performed by Divine’s Custom Interiors in Martinez, California, with
the same patterns carried into the trunk.

So the question for you is, "Why?"

I think I would rather have

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1929-packard-626-convertible-coupe/

or even

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-bond-equipe-4s/,

which, with 1:39 left to go, is being shown little love at $1500.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT BaT RaThole -- this is gorgeous

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes my Dad had a black one but not fluid drive. My 50 Dodge pickup had
fluid drive. Slush box but cool.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 10:44 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> While I’m not keen on the color, as cars like this should all be painted a
> dark color or black, it is cool.
>
> Surprised it’s not been run up higher at this point.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 8, 2019, at 9:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >
> > that paint...
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Found a replacement bumper for Dan's ML500

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 07:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> If they're tapered cups of a known diameter, like
> https://www.amazon.com/Cup-Squared-Plastic-Party-Ounce/dp/B075ZQJ17T
> 
> all you need is a hole saw. 

You would certainly be the pick of the tail-gating party group!!!


Craig


> > On July 8, 2019 at 7:38 AM Dan--- via Mercedes
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> > 
> > 
> > Nice. I like that.
> > 
> > Where are the cup holders?

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Re: [MBZ] 95 diesel wagon

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 21:55:39 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Just need to figure out why my metric 10mm iso bubble flare tool will
> not work on 3/8" stainless tubing! The OD is nearly identical, but the
> tool die will not grab the 3/8" tubing. It is the oil supply line for
> the turbos.

10 mm   =   0.3937 inch

  3/8 inch  =   0.3750 inch

So, the 3/8 inch tubing is 18.7 thousandths of an inch small in diameter.

You could wrap it with a single turn of 9 mil (0.009") shim stock.

Or, you could wrap it with 9 turns of 1 mil (0.001") shim stock -- which
will be much easier to handle.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1974 MERCEDES 450 SE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My (former) wife did a stretch at The Manch (Manchester VA hospital) 
during her residency.  It was for their personal and professional 
development, quite a reputation amongst the visiting physicians.  Oh 
my.  The stories from her and her colleagues... you have NO idea...


--FT

On 7/8/19 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

LOL.  Where does Floyd get these bon mots?

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:13 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


nice michlin tires

Up in the Manch, where the tattoo to tooth ratio is particularly high

--FT

On 7/8/19 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Painful to imagine all the hidden rust...
>
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 11:23 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
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>> Fya
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
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>> To: mailto:fred4s...@gmail.com>>
>>
>>
>> fred4s...@gmail.com  forwarded you
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1974 MERCEDES 450 SE

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LOL.  Where does Floyd get these bon mots?

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:13 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> nice michlin tires
>
> Up in the Manch, where the tattoo to tooth ratio is particularly high
>
> --FT
>
> On 7/8/19 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Painful to imagine all the hidden rust...
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 11:23 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Fya
> >>
> >> -- Forwarded message -
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> >> To: 
> >>
> >>
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> >> --
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> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT YAAAAASSSSSSSS!!!!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Looks like it belongs to a recovering pimp.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 9:25 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> "Book 'em, Danno!"
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 9:17 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1974 MERCEDES 450 SE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

nice michlin tires

Up in the Manch, where the tattoo to tooth ratio is particularly high

--FT

On 7/8/19 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Painful to imagine all the hidden rust...

On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 11:23 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
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Fya

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Subject: 1974 MERCEDES 450 SE
To: 


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1974 MERCEDES 450 SE

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Painful to imagine all the hidden rust...

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Re: [MBZ] OT BaT RaThole -- this is gorgeous

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Me too.  Truly amazing restoration that must have cost over $20k.  Stunning
car but not particularly customized - the engine is original.  It has the
semiautomatic (slushomatic) transmission, like my two 1950 DeSotos, making
it impossible to stall.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 10:44 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> While I’m not keen on the color, as cars like this should all be painted a
> dark color or black, it is cool.
>
> Surprised it’s not been run up higher at this point.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 8, 2019, at 9:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> > that paint...
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Re: [MBZ] I could see going cross-country in this

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I wonder if that is what happened on the $200 420SEL I bought to put the 
engine from the other $200 420SEL in.  Valve cover was punched through 
up at the front, was thinking timing chain jumped but maybe the cam let go.


--FT

On 7/8/19 10:45 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Until the cam oilers fail and you lunch a cam (or two).

-D BTDT got the painful memories


On Jul 8, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
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  at a very high speed

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-mercedes-benz-420sel-6/

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Re: [MBZ] I could see going cross-country in this

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Until the cam oilers fail and you lunch a cam (or two).

-D BTDT got the painful memories 

> On Jul 8, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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>  at a very high speed
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> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-mercedes-benz-420sel-6/
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Re: [MBZ] OT BaT RaThole -- this is gorgeous

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

While I’m not keen on the color, as cars like this should all be painted a dark 
color or black, it is cool.

Surprised it’s not been run up higher at this point.

-D

> On Jul 8, 2019, at 9:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> that paint...
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> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1947-dodge-custom/
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[MBZ] I could see going cross-country in this

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 at a very high speed

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-mercedes-benz-420sel-6/

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[MBZ] OT BaT RaThole -- this is gorgeous

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that paint...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1947-dodge-custom/

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Re: [MBZ] This is nice

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Designo Interior. Most looked nice, but there were a few combinations that were 
pretty horrid.

-D

> On Jul 8, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> Love those seats
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-mercedes-benz-sl500-29/
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Re: [MBZ] OT YAAAAASSSSSSSS!!!!

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"Book 'em, Danno!"
-
Max
Charleston SC


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>
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[MBZ] OT YAAAAASSSSSSSS!!!!

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I want this so bad

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[MBZ] Mama's CLK

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This could be a decent deal

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[MBZ] This is nice

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Love those seats

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Re: [MBZ] Some Folks

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> On July 8, 2019 at 7:43 AM Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Some guy was posting pictures of an intake manifold with a turbo mounted in 
> it. Not sure what it was for, but it looked hopped up.
> 
> Maybe it’s for a 240D. Heh. I want to see that video.
> 



Back before the 617.951, Reeves Callaway came out with a 240D turbo kit.
One of the magazines, I think Motor Trend, tested it. 
It was noticeably slower than a 300SD.
I can't remember how it compared to a NA 300D, but it'd handily beat a non 
turbo 240D

Ah, here it is, Motor Trend, 1983.
I probably still have that issue in a box somewhere, I had a subscription in 
1983 and I can remember reading that article when it came in the mail. 
So the article I read was AFTER the 617.951, and the 300SD they compared it to 
was a W126.
0-60 in the 12s for the SD, 15s for the 240DT

> Source: Motor Trend, May 1983 v35 p76(2).
>
>
>Full Text COPYRIGHT Petersen Publishing Company 1983
>
>Diesel With a Difference
>
>Throw a leg over the bolster and slip into the Recaro's palm. Feel the soft
>glove leather and fondle, please, the buttons for the contour bladders. Then
>lock your hands on the 3-spoke wheel, using the leverage to snuggle your
>buttocks to the seat. Pull the shoulder belt across your lap and hook it home.
>Twist the ignition and watch the gauges snap to attention. The lights burn as
>steadily as coals through the dash panel and the machine steals a few seconds
>to ready itself for business. Time is measured by the pumping in your chest
>and the wait seems much too long . . .
>
>Okay, okay, stop twitching. You weren't waiting for an electric pump to stoke
>the Webers, you were indulging another electronic function, the one that
>supplies juice to the machine's uhhhmmm, aaa, pre-heat system, the
>kind of system that brings life to a--yes!--diesel!
>
>(Fade to black. This little psychodrama was brought to you by Callaway Turbo
>Sytems in Lyme, Connecticut.)
>
>Standing in the silence of the marrow-cracking January cold was Reeves
>Callaway's sleepy 240D Mercedes, the unwitting cohort in a project meant to
>freshen his perspective somewhere between twin-turbo 928 brain-busters and the
>midnight shriek of the 4-cam Cosworth on his overworked dynamometer. Callaway
>was fully aware that the 240D has been the subject of hotair experimentation
>by others, but the Mercedes was largely unknown to him. He found something
>special. He found a wonderfully over-built automobile, a product created for
>the outer limits of the autobahn. But he also found the 240 to be a first
>cousin to Torpor, the pavement sloth, and sluggish automobiles have no place
>in Callaway's calculations.
>
>Perhaps more impressive than the M-B's bedrock physique was the way it
>handled, even with the comfort-prone Continental radials. Enough potential,
>reasoned Callaway, for certain owners to enjoy the car from a driver's
>standpoint. Everything in sight exuded indestructibility, so could the inner
>engine be any less substantial? His thought was to make the car respond at low
>speed and undergo maximum pressure by the time it reached 60 mph.
>
>As Callaway puts it, "The conversion is a simple one and diesels are hard to
>hurt. The diesel benefits from a turbocharger more than a gasoline engine
>does, and it operates at an inherently lower exhaust gas temperature. The
>strain that a gasoline powerplant finds with turbocharging is just not
>realized in the diesel. The excess air generated by the turbo cleanses the
>combustion chamber, recovers heat energy, and yields a boost in horsepower.'
>
>Underhood provision for the installation is prodigious. Despite the
>4-cylinder's stock proportions, the distance from engine to fenderwell ensures
>proper clearance and ventilation for a hot turbo housing. Since the standard
>equipment is well engineered, Callaway's "Turbo Twins,' Don Miller and Kelly
>Parsons, preserved as much of it as possible.
>
>For men of their experience, the 240 conversion was pure child's play. Rather
>than create an exhaust manifold of their own, they simply cobbled a new one,
>adding a stanchion on which to mount the turbo housing and modifying it
>further with the addition of a wastegate. Then they fabricated an elbow to
>link the turbo to the intake manifold; pre-production samples were tube steel,
>but the production piece in every conversion is cast aluminum.
>
>At this point, an aftermarket oil cooler would have been included, but the 240
>already had a good one. Aeroquip stainless steel lines complete its
>integration with the turbocharger. The brushed-aluminum air cleaner was moved
>forward a few inches to finish the job. The exhaust system has extremely low
>back-pressure (about 4 psi), so it, too, was left intact. (If there is need,
>Callaway will bolt up the even larger pipes from a 300D.)
>
>By the boss' estimation, the result of this manipulation is a 45% power
>increase, boosting the 240D's 67 hp to an estimated 95. Fuel consumption for
>this 

Re: [MBZ] Found a replacement bumper for Dan's ML500

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

If they're tapered cups of a known diameter, like
https://www.amazon.com/Cup-Squared-Plastic-Party-Ounce/dp/B075ZQJ17T

all you need is a hole saw. 
Mitch

> On July 8, 2019 at 7:38 AM Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice. I like that.
> 
> Where are the cup holders?

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Re: [MBZ] Some Folks

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Some guy was posting pictures of an intake manifold with a turbo mounted in it. 
Not sure what it was for, but it looked hopped up.

Maybe it’s for a 240D. Heh. I want to see that video.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2019, at 9:17 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Still there. None of those cars will be around long.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019, 6:14 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The stacked thing was a few weeks back
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Haven’t seen any yet, just the horribly slammed car. Ugh. I hope they
>> bottom out on a speed bump. A lot.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 U yea. Have they starting posting their exhaust sticking out of the
>> hood pics yet?
 
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> On Jul 6, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Man that FB w123 group is kind of hopeless. Some dude was asking about
> turbo boost gauges, what type to get, where to put it. I happen to
>> have one
> in the w124, so I chimed in and opined that they are completely
>> useless.
> The original poster then gets all hurt that he doesn't like my tone and
> that I "told me what to do in a tone that I don't like". He then went
>> on to
> say that I should watch my manners "if you want to get any respect
>> around
> here". Keep in mind, basically I said this: "Just rig up a temporary
>> line
> to the intake, find out what you need to find out, and then take it
>> back
> off again".
> 
> Someone else figured they would set me straight by saying "all gauges
>> are
> useless".
> 
> A real triumph of critical thinking, that place. Complete waste of
>> time.
> Blind leading the blind, and no one seems to want to hear anything they
> haven't already thought of.
> 
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 5:46 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Use psuedonyms here...
>> Some folks use psuedonyms on FB.
>> I welcome Peeps to the 123 page.
>> I know who you are Hahaha.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Found a replacement bumper for Dan's ML500

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Nice. I like that.

Where are the cup holders?

-D

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[MBZ] Found a replacement bumper for Dan's ML500

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