[MBZ] Diagnosing an exhaust leak
As many of you are aware, my 1985 300TD with the CA version engine emitsw smoky odors when the heater comes on. It's likely I have an exhaust leak, or perhaps an issue with the trap oxidizer. The car makes no louder than normal exhaust noise and runs quietly. Question: What's involved in diagnosing the source of the leak/problem, and how easy/challenging will it be to fix? Andrew 1985 300TD CA 1983 300TD 49 state model ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing an exhaust leak
I have a couple of suggestions: 1.) Get a mechanic's stethoscope and go over the system in detail with it. If you go over a leak with the stethoscope, you'll know it. 2.) Create smoke in the system and look for leaks. You can do this by introducing small amounts of ATF or Seafoam into the intake. Not my preferred method, but it works. 3.) Get a helper and using a thick towel or similar object have them block the outlet of the tailpipe while you observe the system closely. This will take several attempts, but the back pressure can expose leaks in the system. 4.) Look over the system closely for dark marks where exhaust gases may be escaping, especially around fittings and joints. Just a few things I have used in the past. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 7:42 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: As many of you are aware, my 1985 300TD with the CA version engine emitsw smoky odors when the heater comes on. It's likely I have an exhaust leak, or perhaps an issue with the trap oxidizer. The car makes no louder than normal exhaust noise and runs quietly. Question: What's involved in diagnosing the source of the leak/problem, and how easy/challenging will it be to fix? Andrew 1985 300TD CA 1983 300TD 49 state model ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A Beating Is In Order...
for whoever did this: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem;PdsSession=f613d6671340a5aa63325d02e96a?itemId=250972430193cmd=VIDESC Dan Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing an exhaust leak
As many of you are aware, my 1985 300TD with the CA version engine emitsw smoky odors when the heater comes on. It's likely I have an exhaust leak, or perhaps an issue with the trap oxidizer. The car makes no louder than normal exhaust noise and runs quietly. Does the hood fit right, and is the rubber seal at the rear edge of the firewall still there? Is there a crack in the flex tubing around the turbo? (These have that, right?) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
35 x 35 x 10 5Volt I already ordered one. ~$12 delivered. Dieselhead wrote: Hey Rusty, When I find a 35/38mm 5V computer fan, I will ship you my ozone machine and you can rent it out. 35 or 38 mm square? Or thick? I haven't really looked, but I haven't ever seen a 38 mm square fan. 120 mm square by 38 mm - yes. 80 mm square by 38 mm - yes 30 mm square, 40 mm square - yes. Yeah I have boxes of 12V fans. I can buy a 5V online for ~ $25 But that is like $25-30 for a 25¢ speedo gear. These look promising, but without being sure dimensions your looking for it's hard for me to be sure. http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/fans-5v.html http://www.coolerguys.com/fans.html so I 'd prefer to keep it original. If you want it original, it will cost you. *smiles* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] boom
For those who don't own open pickup trucks, take the acetylene out of the vehicle when you get home: http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291529 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing an exhaust leak
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Question: What's involved in diagnosing the source of the leak/problem, and how easy/challenging will it be to fix? I wonder if a leak sniffer for HVAC would detect the hydrocarbons in an exhaust leak? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing an exhaust leak
I know you can use a CO sniffer on gas cars, not sure if it would work Obama diesel or not... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Question: What's involved in diagnosing the source of the leak/problem, and how easy/challenging will it be to fix? I wonder if a leak sniffer for HVAC would detect the hydrocarbons in an exhaust leak? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] boom
Wow! Somebody Up There loves him! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 1/19/2012 9:09 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: For those who don't own open pickup trucks, take the acetylene out of the vehicle when you get home: http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291529 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] boom
Cheapa$$ (overpriced) toada Bet a 123 will not peel like that with a similar blast. Mid 60s frod would not peel either. Lots of real steel in both. No toada tinfoil in them. For those who don't own open pickup trucks, take the acetylene out of the vehicle when you get home: http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291529 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Replacing M103 Top Timing Cover Seal
I need to do this on the 300E, and since it's been a good 10 years or more since I have done one, I have been looking at the various postings in different forums as to the proper procedure. There seems to be a great deal of dissent as to whether one should apply sealant (Hylomar) to the strip seal or not. It looks like the factory procedure says to put so dabs of sealant at the ends and oil the seal itself to allow the cover to slide over it when replacing the cover. Others suggest putting a film of sealant on the whole seal. Anyone here want to comment? Dan Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] boom
Yeah, if it had been an MB he would probably been killed, as the over pressure would not have been able to escape... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Cheapa$$ (overpriced) toada Bet a 123 will not peel like that with a similar blast. Mid 60s frod would not peel either. Lots of real steel in both. No toada tinfoil in them. For those who don't own open pickup trucks, take the acetylene out of the vehicle when you get home: http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291529 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] boom
Looked in good enough shape to modify the body and turn it into a rat rod or something. Drivetrain and all in OK condition. Wonder what salvage value is? --R On 1/19/12 9:09 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: For those who don't own open pickup trucks, take the acetylene out of the vehicle when you get home: http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291529 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] boom
He is likely alive because the car peeled it's self. A contained explosion will intensify and focus the energy. A broken ear drum and deaf for life is better that dead however. We tend to count our blessings when faced with the death option. Rule 1. NEVER transport a flammable substance in an enclosed space. Every year, several horrible deaths happen because someone puts their BBQ grill tank or their lawn mower gas container in their car or trunk then provides a spark which produces a very horrible path to death. Be safe, think this could kill me and train those around you. Grant... On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Cheapa$$ (overpriced) toada Bet a 123 will not peel like that with a similar blast. Mid 60s frod would not peel either. Lots of real steel in both. No toada tinfoil in them. For those who don't own open pickup trucks, take the acetylene out of the vehicle when you get home: http://coloradok5.com/forums/**showthread.php?t=291529http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291529 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
Thanks everyone from some great suggestions. I have decided to try most all of them. I have rented an ozone generator for 2 days for $50.00. Before I use it I will clean the entire interior thoroughly and install the 4 new cabin filters. After I finish, I plan on alternating coffee and baking soda in containers at night and putting sheets of fabric softener under the seats. It may be overkill but my wife gets migraines and I just plain can't stand the smell. Other than that and the fact that the sunroof has to be repaired I am generally happy with the car. It is a cool color (Black Opal) which looks black from afar but blue/green up close or in the sun. The drivers seat has a 4 tear from wear, but I have already gotten my Leatherique kit in and that will be repaired this weekend as well. It is my first W210 to own and I am looking forward to seeing how it does. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] boom
Looks to me like the bulk of the C2H2 had 'left the building', and only what was left inside the panels and behind the dash, etc., is what went off. Probably the motor in the door is what sparked it off. He's lucky that opening the first door didn't trigger it at the courtesy light switch, as that would have been the _big_ boom. I've brought bottles home in the car before, but they for sure don't stay there overnight! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
Thanks everyone from some great suggestions. I have decided to try most all of them. I have rented an ozone generator for 2 days for $50.00. Before I use it I will clean the entire interior thoroughly and install the 4 new cabin filters. After I finish, I plan on alternating coffee and baking soda in containers at night and putting sheets of fabric softener under the seats. Opinions follow, beware! Cleaning: Most excellent! Not sure whether ammonia or vinegar (or both!) is the best solvent for this grime, but I bet you'll find out. I like my homemade window cleaner (ammonia/alcohol mix in a spray bottle) for glass and hard surfaces. Get them all, for sure. Ozone: Sounds good, attack it at the source. I have a thrift-shop ozone generator I got for cheap years ago, but I've not yet had occasion to use it. Have been warned about potential damage to rubber, plastic, and fabrics if overused. Coffee/BS: they are absorbants, sucking up what migrates out of the vehicle into the air. How better than leaving windows open so migrations can just leave? Softener, Febreze, etc.: Pew! Adds to the problem IMHO. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
I suggest you sprinkle the baking soda over the entire surface of the carpets.. make them white with baking soda... It is a harmless material as far as chemical reaction with the carpet and will vacuum up cleanly. If you cover a greater surface the baking soda will do what it does best even better with greater surface area to absorb the smell. The carpets are a major fabric surface that has soaked up the smoke residue for the life of the smokers residence, so for greater success, attack that surface. It's cheap and it absorbs odor like crazy. You may want to do several applications with a vacuum between each. Coffee grounds... never had luck with them, but... who doesn't like the smell of fresh brewed coffee? On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone from some great suggestions. I have decided to try most all of them. I have rented an ozone generator for 2 days for $50.00. Before I use it I will clean the entire interior thoroughly and install the 4 new cabin filters. After I finish, I plan on alternating coffee and baking soda in containers at night and putting sheets of fabric softener under the seats. It may be overkill but my wife gets migraines and I just plain can't stand the smell. Other than that and the fact that the sunroof has to be repaired I am generally happy with the car. It is a cool color (Black Opal) which looks black from afar but blue/green up close or in the sun. The drivers seat has a 4 tear from wear, but I have already gotten my Leatherique kit in and that will be repaired this weekend as well. It is my first W210 to own and I am looking forward to seeing how it does. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
Ammonia It cuts grease, and should cut the tar. If there are tough spots, wiping with bioDiesel will dissolve them. It is the magic ingredient in windex. Thanks everyone from some great suggestions. I have decided to try most all of them. I have rented an ozone generator for 2 days for $50.00. Before I use it I will clean the entire interior thoroughly and install the 4 new cabin filters. After I finish, I plan on alternating coffee and baking soda in containers at night and putting sheets of fabric softener under the seats. Opinions follow, beware! Cleaning: Most excellent! Not sure whether ammonia or vinegar (or both!) is the best solvent for this grime, but I bet you'll find out. I like my homemade window cleaner (ammonia/alcohol mix in a spray bottle) for glass and hard surfaces. Get them all, for sure. Ozone: Sounds good, attack it at the source. I have a thrift-shop ozone generator I got for cheap years ago, but I've not yet had occasion to use it. Have been warned about potential damage to rubber, plastic, and fabrics if overused. Coffee/BS: they are absorbants, sucking up what migrates out of the vehicle into the air. How better than leaving windows open so migrations can just leave? Softener, Febreze, etc.: Pew! Adds to the problem IMHO. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] boom
True Yeah, if it had been an MB he would probably been killed, as the over pressure would not have been able to escape... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Cheapa$$ (overpriced) toada Bet a 123 will not peel like that with a similar blast. Mid 60s frod would not peel either. Lots of real steel in both. No toada tinfoil in them. For those who don't own open pickup trucks, take the acetylene out of the vehicle when you get home: http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291529 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] boom
Dieselhead wrote: Cheapa$$ (overpriced) toada Bet a 123 will not peel like that with a similar blast. Mid 60s frod would not peel either. Lots of real steel in both. No toada tinfoil in them. And if the pressure wasn't relieved by the bodywork, you'd have a scrambled driver inside. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
Ammonia is a nasty material.. to the human body. I would vote against it. In it's place I would suggest a now common household cleaner with Orange oil [by product of orange juice making, the orange oil comes from the peelings] Orange oil has a very pleasant smell and it removes grease and residue better than any product I have found. Plus, it's bio friendly and clear water washes off any residue of the cleaner. Try some, you will be impressed at how well it works. Grant... On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Ammonia It cuts grease, and should cut the tar. If there are tough spots, wiping with bioDiesel will dissolve them. It is the magic ingredient in windex. Thanks everyone from some great suggestions. I have decided to try most all of them. I have rented an ozone generator for 2 days for $50.00. Before I use it I will clean the entire interior thoroughly and install the 4 new cabin filters. After I finish, I plan on alternating coffee and baking soda in containers at night and putting sheets of fabric softener under the seats. Opinions follow, beware! Cleaning: Most excellent! Not sure whether ammonia or vinegar (or both!) is the best solvent for this grime, but I bet you'll find out. I like my homemade window cleaner (ammonia/alcohol mix in a spray bottle) for glass and hard surfaces. Get them all, for sure. Ozone: Sounds good, attack it at the source. I have a thrift-shop ozone generator I got for cheap years ago, but I've not yet had occasion to use it. Have been warned about potential damage to rubber, plastic, and fabrics if overused. Coffee/BS: they are absorbants, sucking up what migrates out of the vehicle into the air. How better than leaving windows open so migrations can just leave? Softener, Febreze, etc.: Pew! Adds to the problem IMHO. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
I'd replace the cabin filters after the rest of the cleanup was done. Or if they were really cheap, I'd replace filters, run fan on recirc during the ozone wash, and replace the filters again when done. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
They aren't that cheap Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke I'd replace the cabin filters after the rest of the cleanup was done. Or if they were really cheap, I'd replace filters, run fan on recirc during the ozone wash, and replace the filters again when done. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
Rusty Cullens wrote: They aren't that cheap Then install them after everything else is done and hopefully they'll last a while. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing an exhaust leak
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:42 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: As many of you are aware, my 1985 300TD with the CA version engine emitsw smoky odors when the heater comes on. Just a wild guess, but on a 124, the foam insulation on the recirculation flap can disintegrate and blow onto the heater core, where it melts and makes a nasty smell. The cure is to disassemble things enough to get at the flap (remove monowiper assembly and heater blower) and scrape off the rest of the insulation. I've had this happen on three different 124s, but I don't know enough about 123s to know if that's a possible phenomenon. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Wash w/ammonia or vinegar first, _then_ use ozone, etc. Vinegar on the plastic and MB-Tex, Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap on the carpet and headliner, then a good dose of ozone was the formula I used on the mouse-inhabited 300D with partial success---got the smell out of the carpet, door panels, and headliner, but the seats were a total loss. I transplanted the ones from my POS 300E parts car and now have a two-tone gray and dark blue interior, which I actually like. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
The ozone generator rental salesman said that in 2 days 95% of the smell would be gone for good. Then I hope the cleaning and time take care of the rest. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Wash w/ammonia or vinegar first, _then_ use ozone, etc. Vinegar on the plastic and MB-Tex, Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap on the carpet and headliner, then a good dose of ozone was the formula I used on the mouse-inhabited 300D with partial success---got the smell out of the carpet, door panels, and headliner, but the seats were a total loss. I transplanted the ones from my POS 300E parts car and now have a two-tone gray and dark blue interior, which I actually like. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing an exhaust leak
Those are some great suggestions! I am sure my mechanic will be thrilled to hear them. Well, he ought to be! You guys would love him. He's a politically incorrect gun hugger who abuses me every chance he gets and is such a bad actor he is under a court order not to cross the state line.. I haven't had the nerve to ask him why... Andrew On 1/19/12, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:42 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: As many of you are aware, my 1985 300TD with the CA version engine emitsw smoky odors when the heater comes on. Just a wild guess, but on a 124, the foam insulation on the recirculation flap can disintegrate and blow onto the heater core, where it melts and makes a nasty smell. The cure is to disassemble things enough to get at the flap (remove monowiper assembly and heater blower) and scrape off the rest of the insulation. I've had this happen on three different 124s, but I don't know enough about 123s to know if that's a possible phenomenon. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
When vacuuming floor mats, you will get more particulates out of them if you turn over the upright vacuum and hold the mats upside down against the rotating beaters. Gravity helps pull out the crud. It is amazing how much more dirt you can get from clean carpeting this way. Wear gloves. -Dave Walton On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:07 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest you sprinkle the baking soda over the entire surface of the carpets.. make them white with baking soda... It is a harmless material as far as chemical reaction with the carpet and will vacuum up cleanly. If you cover a greater surface the baking soda will do what it does best even better with greater surface area to absorb the smell. The carpets are a major fabric surface that has soaked up the smoke residue for the life of the smokers residence, so for greater success, attack that surface. It's cheap and it absorbs odor like crazy. You may want to do several applications with a vacuum between each. Coffee grounds... never had luck with them, but... who doesn't like the smell of fresh brewed coffee? On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone from some great suggestions. I have decided to try most all of them. I have rented an ozone generator for 2 days for $50.00. Before I use it I will clean the entire interior thoroughly and install the 4 new cabin filters. After I finish, I plan on alternating coffee and baking soda in containers at night and putting sheets of fabric softener under the seats. It may be overkill but my wife gets migraines and I just plain can't stand the smell. Other than that and the fact that the sunroof has to be repaired I am generally happy with the car. It is a cool color (Black Opal) which looks black from afar but blue/green up close or in the sun. The drivers seat has a 4 tear from wear, but I have already gotten my Leatherique kit in and that will be repaired this weekend as well. It is my first W210 to own and I am looking forward to seeing how it does. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
Believe it or not, I like to take my mats and beat them on the driveway by holding them over my head with both hands and swinging them down onto the driveway so they hit it as close to horizontally as I can get them. Amazing how much crud this dislodges. I do it until I can't see anything left from the beating, then I use a sweeper on them. Crude but effective. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Dave Walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: When vacuuming floor mats, you will get more particulates out of them if you turn over the upright vacuum and hold the mats upside down against the rotating beaters. Gravity helps pull out the crud. It is amazing how much more dirt you can get from clean carpeting this way. Wear gloves. -Dave Walton On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:07 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest you sprinkle the baking soda over the entire surface of the carpets.. make them white with baking soda... It is a harmless material as far as chemical reaction with the carpet and will vacuum up cleanly. If you cover a greater surface the baking soda will do what it does best even better with greater surface area to absorb the smell. The carpets are a major fabric surface that has soaked up the smoke residue for the life of the smokers residence, so for greater success, attack that surface. It's cheap and it absorbs odor like crazy. You may want to do several applications with a vacuum between each. Coffee grounds... never had luck with them, but... who doesn't like the smell of fresh brewed coffee? On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone from some great suggestions. I have decided to try most all of them. I have rented an ozone generator for 2 days for $50.00. Before I use it I will clean the entire interior thoroughly and install the 4 new cabin filters. After I finish, I plan on alternating coffee and baking soda in containers at night and putting sheets of fabric softener under the seats. It may be overkill but my wife gets migraines and I just plain can't stand the smell. Other than that and the fact that the sunroof has to be repaired I am generally happy with the car. It is a cool color (Black Opal) which looks black from afar but blue/green up close or in the sun. The drivers seat has a 4 tear from wear, but I have already gotten my Leatherique kit in and that will be repaired this weekend as well. It is my first W210 to own and I am looking forward to seeing how it does. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing an exhaust leak
On 19/01/2012 10:21 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Those are some great suggestions! I am sure my mechanic will be thrilled to hear them. Well, he ought to be! You guys would love him. He's a politically incorrect gun hugger who abuses me every chance he gets and is such a bad actor he is under a court order not to cross the state line.. I haven't had the nerve to ask him why... Andrew What is the name that refers to people who pay to be abused? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: The ozone generator rental salesman said that in 2 days 95% of the smell would be gone for good. I think that's probably way overoptimistic unless the ozone machine is a real monster like the kind used to get the smell out of an entire house at one go. Then again, YMMV. (Or maybe YNMV--your nose may vary.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Beating Is In Order...
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: for whoever did this: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem;PdsSession=f613d6671340a5aa63325d02e96a?itemId=250972430193cmd=VIDESC You know what I always wonder with this type of conversion? How does the climate control work? People always say a swap of an SBC or other American engine into another car has been done right, but what does that mean, exactly? On a Mercedes you'd have to plumb the cooling system of the new engine into the monovalve, weird thermostat, and heater core. You'd also have to make sure that the Klima relay was still getting the signals it expected from forward of the firewall to activate the compressor clutch---refrigerant temp and pressure, etc. Maybe you just have to expect to do without functioning A/C. Or maybe the V-8 fits in a small enough space that there is room for the old refrigerant lines, condenser, etc. to stay where they were? But then you'd probably have to mate the old radiator and fan clutch to the new engine. None of these are insoluble problems, but I wonder if Joe Shade-tree with a dead 300DT and a 1970s 351 Windsor motor lying around managed to solve them, or even tried. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Really Stupid Question
I have never driven a w123 in the winter. Where is the plug for the block heater? I know where it is at on the w201. It is obvious. Maybe send a picture off list Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
It'd be hanging around between the bumper and a/c condenser, where you'd expect. That's if it's installed... Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (322,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 1/19/2012 1:08 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: I have never driven a w123 in the winter. Where is the plug for the block heater? I know where it is at on the w201. It is obvious. Maybe send a picture off list Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
Luther wrote: It'd be hanging around between the bumper and a/c condenser, where you'd expect. That's if it's installed... Yeah - if it is installed. To see if installed, check the right side block area under the intake where one of the water jacket casting plugs should be removed and the water jacket heater should be installed. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
No cord. It took a looonnng time to start today. Guess I need to find my round tuit and get the valves set and the oil changed. D'oh. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 19, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: That's if it's installed... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
I have 3 of them and soon maybe 4 Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone from some great suggestions. I have decided to try most all of them. I have rented an ozone generator for 2 days for $50.00. Before I use it I will clean the entire interior thoroughly and install the 4 new cabin filters. After I finish, I plan on alternating coffee and baking soda in containers at night and putting sheets of fabric softener under the seats. It may be overkill but my wife gets migraines and I just plain can't stand the smell. Other than that and the fact that the sunroof has to be repaired I am generally happy with the car. It is a cool color (Black Opal) which looks black from afar but blue/green up close or in the sun. The drivers seat has a 4 tear from wear, but I have already gotten my Leatherique kit in and that will be repaired this weekend as well. It is my first W210 to own and I am looking forward to seeing how it does. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
If it is not expected to be cold for long where you are, you might try hanging a trouble light under the hood (or 2 of them if you like). Or, you can get the magnetic heaters that just stick on to the oilpan to keep the oil warmed up a bit. Or, the kind that goes in the rad hose. All much easier and probably about as effective as the in-block heater. Randy On 19/01/2012 1:59 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: No cord. It took a looonnng time to start today. Guess I need to find my round tuit and get the valves set and the oil changed. D'oh. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 19, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Benz Hogsbenz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: That's if it's installed... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
Of the choices previously presented, the magnetic heater (around 400W, if my memory serves me correctly) if by far the least intrusive. I never liked the cut the radiator hose and insert type of heater... Just my $0.02. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: No cord. It took a looonnng time to start today. Guess I need to find my round tuit and get the valves set and the oil changed. D'oh. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 19, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: That's if it's installed... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Beating Is In Order...
Hey, they only want $7 for it on CL. http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/2805556474.html - Original Message - Message: 3 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:10:24 -0500 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] A Beating Is In Order... Message-ID: 2fe0895a-47c8-48a5-b2ab-0d6dfda4c...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii for whoever did this: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem;PdsSession=f613d6671340a5aa63325d02e96a?itemId=250972430193cmd=VIDESC Dan Sent from my iPhone -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
And FWIW, the dipstick heaters (heater that you insert into the oil dipstick tube) are useless. Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Of the choices previously presented, the magnetic heater (around 400W, if my memory serves me correctly) if by far the least intrusive. I never liked the cut the radiator hose and insert type of heater... Just my $0.02. Dan Sent from my iPhone -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
Hi Rusty, How much is the Leatherique kit? Does it have colors for all Mercedes? I have a short tear in my '83 240D which has (beige?) upholstery. Thanks, Gerry From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com Thanks everyone from some great suggestions. I have decided to try most all of them. I have rented an ozone generator for 2 days for $50.00. Before I use it I will clean the entire interior thoroughly and install the 4 new cabin filters. After I finish, I plan on alternating coffee and baking soda in containers at night and putting sheets of fabric softener under the seats. It may be overkill but my wife gets migraines and I just plain can't stand the smell. Other than that and the fact that the sunroof has to be repaired I am generally happy with the car. It is a cool color (Black Opal) which looks black from afar but blue/green up close or in the sun. The drivers seat has a 4 tear from wear, but I have already gotten my Leatherique kit in and that will be repaired this weekend as well. It is my first W210 to own and I am looking forward to seeing how it does. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4753 - Release Date: 01/19/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing an exhaust leak
Actually, his rates ae quite reasonable - way less than a standard shrink. On 1/19/12, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 19/01/2012 10:21 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Those are some great suggestions! I am sure my mechanic will be thrilled to hear them. Well, he ought to be! You guys would love him. He's a politically incorrect gun hugger who abuses me every chance he gets and is such a bad actor he is under a court order not to cross the state line.. I haven't had the nerve to ask him why... Andrew What is the name that refers to people who pay to be abused? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
DIpstick heater worked great in my '59 Volvo during the harsh St. Paul (MN) winter of '69. I also brought in the battery every night... On 1/19/12, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: And FWIW, the dipstick heaters (heater that you insert into the oil dipstick tube) are useless. Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Of the choices previously presented, the magnetic heater (around 400W, if my memory serves me correctly) if by far the least intrusive. I never liked the cut the radiator hose and insert type of heater... Just my $0.02. Dan Sent from my iPhone -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
Gerry, it is $75.00. You get dye, prepping agent and crack filler. I did it on my 1991 560SEC and it looks great. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke Hi Rusty, How much is the Leatherique kit? Does it have colors for all Mercedes? I have a short tear in my '83 240D which has (beige?) upholstery. Thanks, Gerry From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com Thanks everyone from some great suggestions. I have decided to try most all of them. I have rented an ozone generator for 2 days for $50.00. Before I use it I will clean the entire interior thoroughly and install the 4 new cabin filters. After I finish, I plan on alternating coffee and baking soda in containers at night and putting sheets of fabric softener under the seats. It may be overkill but my wife gets migraines and I just plain can't stand the smell. Other than that and the fact that the sunroof has to be repaired I am generally happy with the car. It is a cool color (Black Opal) which looks black from afar but blue/green up close or in the sun. The drivers seat has a 4 tear from wear, but I have already gotten my Leatherique kit in and that will be repaired this weekend as well. It is my first W210 to own and I am looking forward to seeing how it does. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4753 - Release Date: 01/19/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
Same place. Southern cars might not have the cord, or might not have the block heater after all. Look on the engine under the exhaust manifold, see if you can find the heater itself. -Curt Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:08:49 -0800 From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question Message-ID: bay171-w6e8d5ad2f621fb49fe794dd...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have never driven a w123 in the winter. Where is the plug for the block heater? I know where it is at on the w201. It is obvious. Maybe send a picture off list Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
No doubt the radiator type work well, they also give you cabin heat much faster. They use 2x+ the electricity though and much of the heat is wasted because it goes into the radiator and gets radiated out to the outside world. -Curt Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:04:57 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question Message-ID: 4f187769.6020...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If it is not expected to be cold for long where you are, you might try hanging a trouble light under the hood (or 2 of them if you like). Or, you can get the magnetic heaters that just stick on to the oilpan to keep the oil warmed up a bit. Or, the kind that goes in the rad hose. All much easier and probably about as effective as the in-block heater. Randy On 19/01/2012 1:59 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: No cord. It took a looonnng time to start today. Guess I need to find my round tuit and get the valves set and the oil changed. D'oh. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
IIRC the problem with a dipstick heater is that cold oil won't radiate heat well enough and can cause oil to burn to the stick when it gets hot. Also IIRC the best use for a dipstick heater is to keep a warm engine warm overnight. The one I found on Amazon is only 90w so keeping it on overnight wouldn't be that bad electric-bill-wise. At $13 from Amazon it might be worth it if you lived somewhere it didn't get all that cold for all that long. -Curt Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:46:25 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question Message-ID: CAC35L=srconqqqd_9+tze055pgnxmnqcxs93mj1otuwup_v...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 DIpstick heater worked great in my '59 Volvo during the harsh St. Paul (MN) winter of '69. I also brought in the battery every night... On 1/19/12, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: And FWIW, the dipstick heaters (heater that you insert into the oil dipstick tube) are useless. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I never liked the cut the radiator hose and insert type of heater... Me either. What I NEED to do, is retire and move to God's waiting room, like you did. You really don't miss Indiana winters do you? Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
The radiator hose kind are not near as effective as the block heater. For twice the electricity, the heater hose 1500W with pump work on older cars, but you have to leave the heater valves turned on. I don't think it works with the monovalve cars. Far and away the best is the block heater. The maggot (magnet) type might get you through this winter, but if yours has a block heater, buy the cord and some zip ties to fasten the cord. Of the choices previously presented, the magnetic heater (around 400W, if my memory serves me correctly) if by far the least intrusive. I never liked the cut the radiator hose and insert type of heater... Just my $0.02. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: No cord. It took a looonnng time to start today. Guess I need to find my round tuit and get the valves set and the oil changed. D'oh. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 19, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: That's if it's installed... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Really Stupid Question
BUT they are most likely a whole lot easier to install and if one needs to do it quickly in the cold, then why not? Put the real one on the list for repairs to be done in warmer weather along with a new rad hose. Randy whose truck wouldn't start this morning most likely because the block heater cord was not firmly pushed into the outlet on the garage wall On 19/01/2012 4:14 PM, Dieselhead wrote: The radiator hose kind are not near as effective as the block heater. For twice the electricity, the heater hose 1500W with pump work on older cars, but you have to leave the heater valves turned on. I don't think it works with the monovalve cars. Far and away the best is the block heater. The maggot (magnet) type might get you through this winter, but if yours has a block heater, buy the cord and some zip ties to fasten the cord. Of the choices previously presented, the magnetic heater (around 400W, if my memory serves me correctly) if by far the least intrusive. I never liked the cut the radiator hose and insert type of heater... Just my $0.02. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing M103 Top Timing Cover Seal
Sealant in the corners only, slot must be perfectly clean, seal should be lubricated with a thin film of silicone grease. Press down on the cover going on so that it slides straight onto the guide pins, if you use the pins to rotate the cover in place (that is, push the bottom inwards and the top out) you will surely roll the seal. Check the seal with a bright light and a mirror before bolting up, if it's not correctly in place, take the cover off and try again before the RTV on the cover sets. The fix will work for a year or so, when it will start to leak again. Peter On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I need to do this on the 300E, and since it's been a good 10 years or more since I have done one, I have been looking at the various postings in different forums as to the proper procedure. There seems to be a great deal of dissent as to whether one should apply sealant (Hylomar) to the strip seal or not. It looks like the factory procedure says to put so dabs of sealant at the ends and oil the seal itself to allow the cover to slide over it when replacing the cover. Others suggest putting a film of sealant on the whole seal. Anyone here want to comment? Dan Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
Fwiw the seats aren't too bad to disassemble, and you don't really need the special tool mentioned in the EPC. If you want to get the odor killers (especially aerosol ones) deep in there, there is no way more effective than throwing the cushions in a heavy duty garbage bag and using a high-powered vacuum cleaner to suck the air out. Spray the aerosol into the bag as you let the air back in. You may also want to remove the two dust filters (behind the glove box) and the carbon filters and spray some (approved) odor remover into the fresh air intake. Replace the filters with new. The filters are effective enough to render the car impervious to two-days-in-the-hot-summer-sun dead skunk. I do think that the 210's are fun to drive :) I'm liking Michelin primacy's in a v rating on mine (16 rims); they seem to handle and stop in the rain almost as well as they do on dry pavement. Mine are rock solid and stable, and you have to watch the needle, since they will ride as smooth at 85-90 as they will at 35 I'll kvetch about the rust issues (and the hygroscopic PSE located near the battery--NO drinks in the rear seat!!!), but they are nice cars. They are even better with multicontour front seats! When you end up doing the front sway bar links, do the bushings, and buy all new fasteners. The E torx heads may round off, but the external easy-out sockets work well on them. BTW, when inspecting perches, bear in mind that they start to separate at the back corner, so if you ever see any separation between the lower bead of sealant and the perch, get to ordering parts. The guy that did mine charged about $1300 including alignment. I don't remember the part number, but it's basically a frame section with a pre-attached and sealed perch. It is secured by 40 structural steel 1/4 pop rivets. Installation requires complete removal of the suspension on the affected side, which accounts for most of the cost -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 19, 2012, at 9:51, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone from some great suggestions. I have decided to try most all of them. I have rented an ozone generator for 2 days for $50.00. Before I use it I will clean the entire interior thoroughly and install the 4 new cabin filters. After I finish, I plan on alternating coffee and baking soda in containers at night and putting sheets of fabric softener under the seats. It may be overkill but my wife gets migraines and I just plain can't stand the smell. Other than that and the fact that the sunroof has to be repaired I am generally happy with the car. It is a cool color (Black Opal) which looks black from afar but blue/green up close or in the sun. The drivers seat has a 4 tear from wear, but I have already gotten my Leatherique kit in and that will be repaired this weekend as well. It is my first W210 to own and I am looking forward to seeing how it does. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Monowiper Question
Also, at least on my 210, all airbag connectors are BRIGHT orange. Everywhere in the harnesses. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 17, 2012, at 19:15, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: The airbag controller has an 'umongous capacitor in it to fire the bag in an accident if all power is lost. Watch you head position when removing airbag. It is a squib very unlikely to fire with out power or lotsa static. Be careful. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 1/17/2012 10:02 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com writes: Yeah, I know. I just hate working around the airbag, especially one that's 20 years old. Disconnect the battery ground strap... they don't have an independent power source do they? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
I know those perches, I have sold quite a few. I have 17 wheels and it will need tires in probably 5000 miles. The cabin filters (4) will be changed this weekend. I am pleased with the tracking and ride. I can't wait to get all things fixed and enjoy. BTW it is quite quick. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:59:32 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke Fwiw the seats aren't too bad to disassemble, and you don't really need the special tool mentioned in the EPC. If you want to get the odor killers (especially aerosol ones) deep in there, there is no way more effective than throwing the cushions in a heavy duty garbage bag and using a high-powered vacuum cleaner to suck the air out. Spray the aerosol into the bag as you let the air back in. You may also want to remove the two dust filters (behind the glove box) and the carbon filters and spray some (approved) odor remover into the fresh air intake. Replace the filters with new. The filters are effective enough to render the car impervious to two-days-in-the-hot-summer-sun dead skunk. I do think that the 210's are fun to drive :) I'm liking Michelin primacy's in a v rating on mine (16 rims); they seem to handle and stop in the rain almost as well as they do on dry pavement. Mine are rock solid and stable, and you have to watch the needle, since they will ride as smooth at 85-90 as they will at 35 I'll kvetch about the rust issues (and the hygroscopic PSE located near the battery--NO drinks in the rear seat!!!), but they are nice cars. They are even better with multicontour front seats! When you end up doing the front sway bar links, do the bushings, and buy all new fasteners. The E torx heads may round off, but the external easy-out sockets work well on them. BTW, when inspecting perches, bear in mind that they start to separate at the back corner, so if you ever see any separation between the lower bead of sealant and the perch, get to ordering parts. The guy that did mine charged about $1300 including alignment. I don't remember the part number, but it's basically a frame section with a pre-attached and sealed perch. It is secured by 40 structural steel 1/4 pop rivets. Installation requires complete removal of the suspension on the affected side, which accounts for most of the cost -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 19, 2012, at 9:51, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone from some great suggestions. I have decided to try most all of them. I have rented an ozone generator for 2 days for $50.00. Before I use it I will clean the entire interior thoroughly and install the 4 new cabin filters. After I finish, I plan on alternating coffee and baking soda in containers at night and putting sheets of fabric softener under the seats. It may be overkill but my wife gets migraines and I just plain can't stand the smell. Other than that and the fact that the sunroof has to be repaired I am generally happy with the car. It is a cool color (Black Opal) which looks black from afar but blue/green up close or in the sun. The drivers seat has a 4 tear from wear, but I have already gotten my Leatherique kit in and that will be repaired this weekend as well. It is my first W210 to own and I am looking forward to seeing how it does. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
John Reames wrote: BTW, when inspecting perches, bear in mind that they start to separate at the back corner, so if you ever see any separation between the lower bead of sealant and the perch, get to ordering parts. The guy that did mine charged about $1300 including alignment. I don't remember the part number, but it's basically a frame section with a pre-attached and sealed perch. It is secured by 40 structural steel 1/4 pop rivets. I think I'd rather just pay $500 more for a 4MATIC (but you don't really have a choice if you insist on a diesel). Around here, a really nice 2000-03 4MATIC might be a $5-8k car, and I've seen decent ones with 180k for $4k. A really nice 98-99 turbo might be a $8-10k car, and the difference buys a lot of fuel for somebody like me driving 5000+ miles a year. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
I paid 4k. 2 owner car. All books and records (a pretty thick folder). Paint is nice. After smoke out and drivers seat fix, I feel like it is a very nice car. Sun roof bugs me a bit, I'll figure it out next week. All in all pleased. No comparison to the C280, much, much nicer car. I thought I liked pre 1992 cars, but I like this one more each day. I must be getting old. Crap. Nothing compares to my 1991 560SEC, it is still the BOMB! Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:34:30 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke John Reames wrote: BTW, when inspecting perches, bear in mind that they start to separate at the back corner, so if you ever see any separation between the lower bead of sealant and the perch, get to ordering parts. The guy that did mine charged about $1300 including alignment. I don't remember the part number, but it's basically a frame section with a pre-attached and sealed perch. It is secured by 40 structural steel 1/4 pop rivets. I think I'd rather just pay $500 more for a 4MATIC (but you don't really have a choice if you insist on a diesel). Around here, a really nice 2000-03 4MATIC might be a $5-8k car, and I've seen decent ones with 180k for $4k. A really nice 98-99 turbo might be a $8-10k car, and the difference buys a lot of fuel for somebody like me driving 5000+ miles a year. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Smoke
I do this also, but the dirt never seems to stop coming - I quit when my arms get tired, then vacuum. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Believe it or not, I like to take my mats and beat them on the driveway by holding them over my head with both hands and swinging them down onto the driveway so they hit it as close to horizontally as I can get them. Amazing how much crud this dislodges. I do it until I can't see anything left from the beating, then I use a sweeper on them. Crude but effective. Dan -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] SDL won't start
Over the last 6 weeks, the SDL has been hard to start when the engine is hot, this was mostly noticed during our 2100mi road-trip from Chi to MI to AR to Chi. The car always started fine when cold. This week, Wed morning was about the coldest it has been so far (temp of ~12F) and the Wife could not get the car to start. When I tried, it would barely manage 1-2 compression strokes, now tonight (with the block heater on at temp at 6F) it won't even attempt to turn over and the dome light doesn't even hint at dimming when the start position is engaged. The weak hot start shows a flaky starter. Now it's acting like a battery issue, yet the battery is 6mo old and all lights show brightly. I'm confused. Tomorrow morning I'm going to hook up the Dodge for a jump and charge for 15min or so and see if that makes a difference with the block heater staying plugged in all night. And, if I feel up to managing the ~2F temps, I'll grab the volt meter and check voltage drop when the starter is engaged. Any thoughts? Do I plan to be calling Rusty for a starter? TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (322,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
