Re: [MBZ] For y'all trekkies

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I'm going to become a bundler for Hilz and start a solar company to put 
clean green power in Cuber.  I'll make billion$!


Of course I will never install a single solar panel, but I will get 
billion$ because of my /good intentions/.  I'll have some pretty heavy 
overhead, will have to build an office, villas for the help (and me 
too), buy a G5 to fly back and forth, outfit the whole deal in an 
appropriate fashion, will need some boats and nice G63's and helicopters 
to do exploring of sites, and that will all have to come first.


I'll model the effort on the Clinton Fam Foundation efforts in Haiti, 
set up the Thomas Family Foundation, hire my kid for $350k/yr, get her a 
staff of 6 or so to deal with details while I set policy and such.  
It'll be awesome!


--R



On 5/29/15 1:15 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

 Being obstinate is just not good for the country

I object. Foundation of these United States was based on bein obstinate.
The progress that was made in every industry was made because of some
obstinate person who refused to give in or to give up.
Huge industries and huge fortunes have been made, which employed huge
numbers of people now called the middle class only because the obstinate
people who refused to give in or give up pressed on regardless of the
obstacles.

America loves the underdog who is obstinate, not the underdog who rolls
over and gives up.. It is the very fabric of standing on your own two feet
and making your own future.

[Said principle is now trying to be bred out of our youth by liberal
schools, Like all efforts at social engineering, it too will meet failure.]
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Re: [MBZ] New Addition

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Do like those guys do, weld some legs on them and make a grill to cook stuff on 
the roadside. High-class joint, Benz rim grills. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On May 30, 2015, at 9:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

Not sure it would be worth the shipping.  However, I think they would add a 
great deal to the decor of the original Okie Acres, especially if they were 
just tossed sort of haphazardly onto the existing piles of crap there.  Make a 
nice design statement, almost as good as one of those little hispanic guys 
leading a burro pulling a cart or a half-buried bathtub with the Virgin Mary 
statue in it.

Dan


 On May 30, 2015, at 9:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Wonder if I have a use for them wheels
 
 Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] What is Wrong With This Picture?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

So do you bid on them when you go to pick some up?

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Jun 2, 2015, at 4:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

+1

Dan


 On Jun 1, 2015, at 9:34 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Probably special cheap WalMart formulation. Their standard approach.
 Disclosure- I think Walmart is a good example of evil. Rant off.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - GLOSSARY

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Fixin -- like fixin ta go ( apparently this referred to fixing up the horses 
and getting all their gear on)

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Jun 1, 2015, at 10:51 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

GLOSSARY CONTINUED:

D’mar -- tomorrow
Droppin’ soda -- dropping sodium nitrate fertilizer, by each plant, usually, 
corn, by hand.
Eatin’ pokey, rolls and grits. -- We are so poor, all we can do is poke our 
feet under the table, roll our eyes, and grit our teeth.
Eite -- alright, OK, yes
Ellem -- elm
Enough money to burn a wet mule -- a lot of money, rich
Fat lightard -- kindling; a pine knot or a pine tree stump with a high 
concentration of resin; often chopped and split into small pieces (splinters a 
few inches long) and used to start fires in fireplaces, heaters and wood-fired 
cook stoves.
Fat n sassy -- feeling very good
Feelin’ his oats -- feeling good
Fahr -- fire
Fetch -- to find, to look for
‘Fican and ‘Fican see my way to -- if I can
‘Fida -- if I had
‘Fida knowed it -- If I had known it
Flat out -- full speed
Flat out buffaloed -- completely fooled
Flat out of luck -- really out of luck, unlucky
Floorboard -- floor of a car or truck
Flustrated -- frustrated
Foot loose and fancy free -- without a worry
Fly-by-night -- unreliable, untrustworthy
Fly off the handle -- quick to anger
‘Fore light, ‘fore dark -- before dawn, before dusk
Fox in the hen house -- conflict of interest
Fret -- worry
Funnies -- comic strips in the news paper
Galavanting -- out having a good time; carousing
Gangbuster or like gangbusters -- forceful, active, very effective
Gee, Haw - signal for mule to turn right, turn left
Get a hold of yourself. -- Calm down, relax, control yourself.
Gimmie -- give me
Git a holdt -- grasp firmly
Git up; chk, chk (sound made in cheek by quick, short air intake) -- signal or 
command for mule to go forward
Git -- get
Gitcha, gotcha -- get you, got you
Git!  Scat!  Skedaddle -- go quickly
Git ‘er dander up -- upset her, make her mad
Git ‘er done -- finish it
Goin’ bare-footed -- wearing no shoes
Goin’ like 60, goin’ like mad, goin’ like wildfire, really flyin’-- going very 
fast
Goin’ ta town -- movin’ along expeditiously, movin’ right along
Go to the pore house -- go home
Gone to the dogs -- gone bad
Gonna -- going to
Gosh onlyest -- a very special only one, exceptional
‘Gotta git home ‘fore dark -- we don’t have “lights”; ‘gotta feed the chickens, 
cows, mules, etc.
GreaGLOSSARY CONTINUED:

D’mar -- tomorrow
Droppin’ soda -- dropping sodium nitrate fertilizer, by each plant, usually, 
corn, by hand.
Eatin’ pokey, rolls and grits. -- We are so poor, all we can do is poke our 
feet under the table, roll our eyes, and grit our teeth.
Eite -- alright, OK, yes
Ellem -- elm
Enough money to burn a wet mule -- a lot of money, rich
Fat lightard -- kindling; a pine knot or a pine tree stump with a high 
concentration of resin; often chopped and split into small pieces (splinters a 
few inches long) and used to start fires in fireplaces, heaters and wood-fired 
cook stoves.
Fat n sassy -- feeling very good
Feelin’ his oats -- feeling good
Fahr -- fire
Fetch -- to find, to look for
‘Fican and ‘Fican see my way to -- if I can
‘Fida -- if I had
‘Fida knowed it -- If I had known it
Flat out -- full speed
Flat out buffaloed -- completely fooled
Flat out of luck -- really out of luck, unlucky
Floorboard -- floor of a car or truck
Flustrated -- frustrated
Foot loose and fancy free -- without a worry
Fly-by-night -- unreliable, untrustworthy
Fly off the handle -- quick to anger
‘Fore light, ‘fore dark -- before dawn, before dusk
Fox in the hen house -- conflict of interest
Fret -- worry
Funnies -- comic strips in the news paper
Galavanting -- out having a good time; carousing
Gangbuster or like gangbusters -- forceful, active, very effective
Gee, Haw - signal for mule to turn right, turn left
Get a hold of yourself. -- Calm down, relax, control yourself.
Gimmie -- give me
Git a holdt -- grasp firmly
Git up; chk, chk (sound made in cheek by quick, short air intake) -- signal or 
command for mule to go forward
Git -- get
Gitcha, gotcha -- get you, got you
Git!  Scat!  Skedaddle -- go quickly
Git ‘er dander up -- upset her, make her mad
Git ‘er done -- finish it
Goin’ bare-footed -- wearing no shoes
Goin’ like 60, goin’ like mad, goin’ like wildfire, really flyin’-- going very 
fast
Goin’ ta town -- movin’ along expeditiously, movin’ right along
Go to the pore house -- go home
Gone to the dogs -- gone bad
Gonna -- going to
Gosh onlyest -- a very special only one, exceptional
‘Gotta git home ‘fore dark -- we don’t have “lights”; ‘gotta feed the chickens, 
cows, mules, etc.
Grease monkey  -- automobile mechanic
Grinnin’ like a ‘possum eatin’ persimmons -- a really big grin.
Ground itch, foot itch -- an infection between little boys’ and girls’ toes 
from wading in puddles of water after a rain; probably related to soldier’s 
“jungle rot”
Hafta -- have to, must
Haint -- spook
Hain’t -- have not, 

[MBZ] sumboddy need dis

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://www.banggood.com/A8-5_5inch-Car-HUD-Head-Up-Display-with-OBD2-Interface-Plug-p-981799.html

--R



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

HAHAHAHA Ed Malarkey from MA -- yer killin me A!

--R



On 7/1/15 4:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Really? Who?
They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real
actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not one
of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any state...
-Curt
   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides of
the aisle.  The system is broke..

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
constitutional conservatives.

Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat the
history that the in crowd will never learn.


  THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.

Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

RB




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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Won't argue much with that, though Tim Scott seems half smart (but we 
weren't talking about smart -- way to deflect the discussion).  A friend 
of mine, who is a very reasonable person, knows him pretty well (and his 
daughter works for Tim), and has for a long time, and thinks quite 
highly of him though he has done some things I find a bit questionable.  
Another friend of mine, a flaming liberal from Lawn Guyland, accuses 
Scott of being a disgrace to his race because he has the temerity to 
be a R and espouse such principles. She believes he should uniformly 
vote for free sh*t and if he doesn't he is a disgrace to his race.


Miss Lindsey defies words.

--R



On 7/1/15 4:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

He's a lot smarter than your two a**hole senators.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


HAHAHAHA Ed Malarkey from MA -- yer killin me A!

--R



On 7/1/15 4:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:


MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Really? Who?

They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real
actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not
one
of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any
state...
-Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
   Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides
of
the aisle.  The system is broke..

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian

 R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
constitutional conservatives.

Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat
the
history that the in crowd will never learn.


   THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.


Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

RB



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Re: [MBZ] OT Circuit Board Repair

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I was thinking about this today for some reason while driving. You might want 
to see if there is an avionics shop around that does repairs. They know about 
stuff like that. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:04 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

Gerry wrote:

 If you can get the name, model, and serial number; I can send it to a friend 
 who deals in marine equipment automation. He might know of a source or a shop 
 that repairs them.
 Gerry

It is an Autohelm ST4000+

Here is a link to the manual, with schematic.

http://1drv.ms/1IugyHO

Thanks,

Rick

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[MBZ] OT Old Aircraft pR0n

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://gizmodo.com/the-last-of-the-vulcans-retires-after-55-years-of-servi-1715162689

--R


 The Last of the Vulcans Retires After 55 Years of Service
 
http://gizmodo.com/the-last-of-the-vulcans-retires-after-55-years-of-servi-1715162689


On the 1st of July, 1960 
https://www.facebook.com/VulcanXH558/photos/a.175141942516809.38145.170427449654925/969056696458659 
Avro pilot Tony Blackman https://www.facebook.com/tony.blackman.33 
climbed into the cockpit of a Hawker Siddeley Vulcan delta wing 
strategic bomber in order to deliver her from the aircraft manufacturer 
(A.V. Roe and Company, Avro) for Royal Air Force service. The British 
four-jet aircraft dressed in antiflash white–military serial XH558–was 
the 59th of the 136 Avro Vulcan medium range heavy bombers ever built. 
And this summer XH558, /The Spirit of Great Britain/, the last of her 
type is going to bid farewell to the skies.



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Re: [MBZ] 606 belt tensioner

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

It's something bigger than 14mm

--R



On 7/3/15 1:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

What the heck size Allen socket is needed to remove a 606 belt tensioner? The 
14mm used on the 603 style is not even close to big enough.

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Re: [MBZ] San Antonio hotel

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

That reminds me of staying in a hotel in Las Vegas NM one night when on 
our way from Houston to Taos we got stuck by a snowstorm with 2 kids and 
2 poodles who did not really get along (dogs and chirruns) so we had to 
get 2 rooms and eat in shifts to keep all the individuals happy.  
Anyway, it was a cool old hotel, from back in the 1800s.  Flash forward 
some years, I am watching the movie No Country for Old Men and there is 
a scene where they are sitting in an old hotel having a conversation, 
and I think That looks familiar and it was that very hotel lobby.


If anyone is ever in Austin, there is a neat old hotel there called the 
Driscoll.


--R



On 6/28/15 9:04 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

What was  the name of the famous, old, first class hotel in downtown San 
Antonio?  Tinker?  Tucker?  ??

Wilton
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[MBZ] CL Photographer of the Week

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5081451903.html

--R



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[MBZ] 2012 MERCEDES ML-350 4MATIC**NO FRUSTRATION FINANCING!! ***WHY PAID MORE???? - $32999

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

***WHY PAID MORE

https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/5088043713.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT - English-speaking cat?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Hey Max you must be over in Yurp!

Friends have a pair of these Asian tiger or leopard cats or something, 
they are half house cat and half wild whatevers from Malaysia or some 
place, and look sorta spotted leopardish.  Anyway, they are wicked smart 
and are actually fairly tolerable and quite engaging.  They do various 
tricks and pick up on things quite quickly, and will obey commands to go 
fetch toys and what not.


--R



On 7/5/15 9:01 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Yes, my wife brought an Italian speaking cat to our marriage.  Scopa, which  
means broom, would immediately cause the cat to run for cover.  My mother-in-law used a 
broom to administer correction; brandishing a broom would have an even greater effect.

Once we went to Wisconsin to visit my mother, and for some reason we had taken 
the cat.  One evening the cat got into the attached garage, got scared and 
climbed up into the rafters, well out of reach.  No amount of calling, 
pleading, or cat food would coax her down.

I had SWMBO stand at the door leading to the house and call the cat.  I found a broom, 
yelled Scopa! and charged.  This produced the desired response, as Cat 
rapidly exited the garage back into the house.

My wife would sometimes curse the cat in Italian, which I'm sure she also 
understood quite well.



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[MBZ] Those wacky Germans

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I hope they don't find the tank I have in my basement!

http://jalopnik.com/authorities-seize-wwii-panther-tank-from-german-retiree-1715854308

--R



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Re: [MBZ] Sticker on Used MB

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Are they Takata airbags?  If so, they don't work anyway, so you can just 
disregard


--R



On 7/2/15 12:18 PM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote:
So the dates are when the Air Bags are supposed to be replaced? That 
must be pretty expensive --


Hmm I wonder how much of the mechanism is replaced?  Just the 
explosive mechanism or just the sensors?  Don't know what kind of 
explosives they use but from personal experience, I've seen bullets 
that were hand-loaded 35+ years ago still fire like new. I doubt they 
use smokeless gun powder but it's probably similar chemicals involved 
(Perhaps).


Thanks -
LarryT
91 300D

On 7/2/2015 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
I remember this being a big thing at one point where airbags were 
supposed to stop working and we were all going to die in horrible 
crashes.Last I heard it turns out that nobody really knows the 
effective lifespan of an airbag.

If you could use it as a negotiating tactic I'd say go for it. rel
-Curt
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  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sticker on Used MB
Based on being notified of an age extension on an older MB, I 
have to assume that there is an Use By date for air bags. I have 
seen similar stickers on my cars.  That being said, I've never heard 
of anyone ever replacing all of their air bags based on their age


Dan

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:09 AM, LarryT via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I was browsing some used MBs and noticed a sticker in the door frame 
of a ML320 that read;

Steering Wheel -  06-2015
Instrument Panel - 06-2015
Left Front Door - 06-2015
Right Front Door - 06-2015
Left Front Door - 06-2015
Right Front Door - 06-2015
Left Roof Frame ---
Right Roof frame --

I assume there are air bags in each location and each will need to 
be replaced at some point?  The sticker says they need to be 
replaced this month, correct?  Seems  like that would require a 
large price reduction.  Don't recall the year of the ML  but I think 
it was between 2000 and 2005.  Is there a time frame when air bags 
need to be replace ?


Thanks
LarryT
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[MBZ] OT web cam and cheap tablet

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Or, web cam and existing fone or ipad...

I have an older wifi cam and wanted to see if I could get it working 
with a cheap tablet of some sort as a remote viewer.  The cam had some 
sort of windows software that I never used, but I could see it with VLC 
on my Mac after putting in some sort of weird script, but a VLC upgrade 
would not see it any more.  I found an earlier version and installed 
that and it worked again, but then I got a new router with my Uverse 
install, and it wouldn't see it anymore though it was still visible on 
the network.  I sorta gave up on fooling with it at that point.


Now I am wondering if I could use a cheap tablet as a monitor for it, 
somehow.  I have an old Android phone and an old ifone too, there is a 
VLC app for the phones and ipad, so I am wondering if that might work 
somehow.  If I could get it working then I could buy one of those $50 
tablets and have a continuous monitor.  THere might be some other apps 
too, I have not looked into it.


Or should I just buy one of these and use it and not fool with the other 
one?  Or will the same s/w work with the old one I have?


http://www.banggood.com/ESCAM-Brick-QD300-WIFI-720P-P2P-Cloud-IP-IR-Waterproof-Security-Camera-p-975582.html

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vmeyecloud-lite/id64544?mt=8

--R

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts 'O' Rama

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You sure that's not Kleb's new place?  Maybe he got a new job traveling 
around doing revivals.  He'll be living like Brother Tilton soon!


--R



On 6/28/15 3:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Check this out somewhere around Dallas:

https://plus.google.com/photos/103139691827795148715/albums/6090928933748274865 
https://plus.google.com/photos/103139691827795148715/albums/6090928933748274865

You can catch the tent revival while you’re there…. I’ll take the Nardi wheel 
in the back of the cream colored 300TD.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sticker on Used MB NOW Vermin

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

The last coupla days I have popped several squirrels that were getting 
all the squirrel seed my wife puts out for the birds.  I think I got 5 
or 6, some of them ran off after getting hit but I think they probably 
did not live long.  There are 2 or 3 more around that ran off before I 
could get them.


They learn pretty quickly but I think this must have been a recent wave 
as they were not yet afraid of me or the pellet gun.  If I got most of 
them there might be more moving in to fill the niche.


I zeroed in the scope of the pellet gun and put some bike lube in the 
barrel, that thing cracks like a .22 now when I fire it, and I can put a 
group into a quarter-sized circle at 50ft or so.  I got one squirrel 
that was way up in a tree maybe 30ft or so, knocked it out and it 
thunked but got up and ran off.  Another one made it up about that high 
before succumbing and dropped down.


I leave them out there, most of them disappear over night, I guess 
raccoons or possums or something gets them.


--R



On 7/2/15 1:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

That reminds me, I need to glue some walnuts onto my chipmunk traps. Little 
bastards are digging holes all over my yard, time to trim the population a 
little.
-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I have thought of running for something too, but then realized I would 
have to deal with people like me.


--R



On 7/1/15 5:50 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks, but I don't want it - 'couldn't put up with all the BS.

'Reminds me:  'Bout 25 years ago, I was chairman of local Historic 
District Commission; 'thought I might run for city council or county 
commission. 'Had too many nuts calling 'bout their pet projects 
and/or complaints; 'quickly decided I didn't need to put up with that BS.


Wilton 



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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sticker on Used MB NOW Vermin

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Gray.  There are some black ones around other places, and white black 
ones here and there.  I would not find rats tasty unless I was really 
really hungry though my black neighbors seem to like them.


--R



On 7/2/15 5:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:



On July 2, 2015 at 5:22 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


The last coupla days I have popped several squirrels that were getting
all the squirrel seed my wife puts out for the birds.  I think I got 5
or 6, some of them ran off after getting hit but I think they probably
did not live long.  There are 2 or 3 more around that ran off before I
could get them.

Gray squirrels, fox squirrels?
A half dozen of either would have made a good pot of stew.

Never knew anybody who ate the little red squirrels, but they should eat the
same, just less meat for the work involved.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

That's why I said Jabba or FLAPS, or if you must dealer them, call the 
MBNorthlake in Charlotte and see what they will do -- it has been 
reported they do reasonable pricing for stealers.  At least you would 
have a comparo to take to your local stealer.


--R


On 6/11/15 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

My local dealer will happily charge 4X what I would pay at Autohaus AZ,
less a 10 percent MB Club discount.  No thanks..

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Call Jabba or just go to the FLAPS and get some.  I think they are all
chinee now anyway, but I do seem to recall that Jabba got me some for the
SD he said were somehow better, they were in some branded box anyway.  Who
knows They aren't hard to change, be sure to get a tube of bearing grease
while you're at it as you will need to clean and regrease the bearings.  Go
to HF and buy a cheepcheep gauge to test the bearing tightness.  You can
change both of them in an afternoon easy enough.  Get new pads too.

--R


On 6/11/15 10:02 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:


What brand should I stay away from?  It seems the pads last longer than my
rotors...

Andrew
1983 300TD squeals and leaks
1985 300TD garage queen
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Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Would you really want to buy OLD rubber?  Even if OEM would it be better 
to buy cheepcheepchinee rubber that might be at least NEW 
cheepcheepchinee rubber?


conundrums!

--R



On 6/11/15 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

On a related note, Randy pretty much deals in NOS stuff now, so if you’re 
looking for an NOS part for an older Benz, he’s your guy.



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Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

My house would cost 10X more even if it did have chinee drywall. That 
might even be a good selling feature, to celebrate diversity and all...


But I think we are both arguing the same point, NOS is new OLD stock 
which has been sitting on some shelf for who knows how long, and rubber 
deteriorates, but maybe it would still be better and last longer than 
cheepcheepchinee rubber since it might be der in ordnung Deutsche 
rubber.  I myself would not use cheepcheepchinee rubbers for fear of the 
consequences.


--R


On 6/11/15 2:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

For all I know, the $12 scraper has NEW rubber, albeit of lower quality
than the OEM part.

Hey Rich, the same size house you live in would cost you probably triple
here in DC.  Does this mean your home is made out of papier mache and
Chinese drywall?


On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Would you really want to buy OLD rubber?  Even if OEM would it be better
to buy cheepcheepchinee rubber that might be at least NEW
cheepcheepchinee rubber?

conundrums!

--R



On 6/11/15 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:


On a related note, Randy pretty much deals in NOS stuff now, so if you’re
looking for an NOS part for an older Benz, he’s your guy.



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Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I recall a remanufactured MC I got for the 123 was only about $40 from 
the FLAPS and was an easy swap except getting those fittings attached to 
the hard lines lined up to catch the threads on it was a bugger.  Not a 
lot of slop in the hard lines to wiggle the fitting around.  Then you 
have to do the whole bleeding thing which is Not Fun in my view.


--R



On 6/11/15 3:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Definitely master cylinder failure symptoms.  Fluid is leaking past the cups on 
the piston.

Dan



On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

Winnipeg has rivers going north south - The Red and east west - The Assiniboine 
so I thought that sort of fit.

My good old 76 115 300D had a hiccup this morning, which is totally unlike it.

I was at a light when the car creeped ahead. I thought I had a senior moment 
and had failed to keep my foot firmly planted on the brake.
I stepped harder and it sat there for the duration of the  red light, but on 
the next block, I stepped on the brake pedal and it essentially sank to the 
floor. Not a good thing in traffic.
I drove it the few blocks home at lunch and put it back in the garage but 
something is wrong. It brakes but not very hard and pumping the pedal does not 
all that much to make it better.

It feels like when one presses on the pedal while another bleeds the brakes. It 
just slowly descends until close to the floor.

I have looked where it was parked and do not see any puddles of fluid.
The resevoir does not look to be down.

I shall have to look a bit closer to see if there is something leaking.

If not, then I suspect the master cylinder is leaking internally.

Anyone have a better conclusion based upon the symptoms?

If so, is there a kit to repair or am I compelled to replace the whole thing?
In either case, where would one best look for parts?

RB


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Re: [MBZ] Memorial Day

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

The test to apply is how many are leaving v. How many are coming, and what each 
is sacrificing to do whichever. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

 On May 25, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 

 Dan wrote:
 We would not be the great nation that we are today without their sacrifices.
 
 SPOILER ALERT
 There are some that might take that sentiment wrong.
 i.e. great nation that we are today and some point to corruption, etc
 ...just sayin'...
 mao


we would not be the great nation we were pre-clintonistas...

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Re: [MBZ] Dan P.'s Next Benz

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

That's pretty funny, some sorry peckerwood with a trashed car and a Chinese 
menu for a license plate. 

I think Dan might be beyond that. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On May 23, 2015, at 6:18 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5035672155.html

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] W116 rattles

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Duct tape. 

You need a parrot to ride on your shoulder too. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On May 23, 2015, at 10:55 AM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Hello gang,

Managed to score a W116 SD, 1979, 93k original miles, single owner, no rust 
blah blah.

I thought only the W126 was full of rattles but it turns out that trend started 
with the W116. I'm used to W115 and W123 which generally remain rattle-free for 
the duration.

Anyone have any tips to get rid of the noises from the heater flaps in the dash 
or do I just have to live with it? Otherwise the car is spectacular. I just 
need a leopardskin fez and flag carriers and I could lead a small country.

D.

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Re: [MBZ] Thinking I should pick this up before penoff does

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

That would be a great deal. He probably got a good payout from the ins co so 
you could beat on him a bit. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On May 23, 2015, at 8:16 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



1995 Mercedes Benz S600
http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5036257858.html

via cPro Craigslist App
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Those would be boMBs

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On May 21, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

Team Kraut

you can pitch saurkraut bo mbs at the other cars.  Use the black crosses, etc


 The team needs to have a theme.  That increases the chance of being selected 
 to join the race.  The more engaging, the higher the probability of seeing 
 the track. 
 clay
 
 
 On May 20, 2015, at 7:04 AM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
 
 The black cross, maybe, but not a swastika - possibly, inflammatory.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 9:23 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] My eyes
 
 
 Add a Luftwaffe symbol on each side, paint big gaping sharks toothed mouth 
 on front fenders?
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
 
 On May 20, 2015 9:18:59 AM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Yes.
 
 Wilton
 

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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sticker on Used MB NOW Vermin

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I popped another one yesterday, there appears to be only one more in the 
immediate vicinity but it has developed the Pavlov Pellet Gun 
conditioning so it runs when I go outside now.


When the ospreys are flying around and screeching the tree rat 
population gets mighty scarce too.  One day a year or two ago we were 
sitting on the front porch and there were some squirrels around, all the 
sudden a red-tailed hawk flies by about 3 feet away from us, right along 
the porch rail, I think it was looking for one of the rats.  They 
scattered REAL fast!  That was kinda cool, but a bit startling as it 
made no sound as it went by, not even a whoosh.


--R



On 7/6/15 8:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I noticed a few weeks ago that the local squirrel population or presence was 
gone or seriously diminished.

About two weeks ago, we noticed a nest of red winged hawks in a tree at the 
back of our property. They're pretty noisy now, starting the hunting and 
feeding of the youngsters well before dawn. I went out yesterday morning before 
sunrise and saw the dad out hunting.

I'm suspecting that the need to feed several hungry chicks has put a serious 
damper on the local tree rat population. They used to be quite active in the 
woods behind my house, and now I neither see or hear much of them at all.

Nice to have the hawks setting up housekeeping in the neighborhood. They've 
been around for a while, but we hadn't seen evidence of nesting or offspring 
until now.

We have a bunch of large owls around here, too.

Dan who gets up with the roosters every morning

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

I was just today thinking maybe I ought to pop a couple of our fat squirrels. 
One went into the garden and looked like he was going to stop for a snack but 
he passed right through.

I should get my new pellet gun out and finish sighting it in, the rear sight 
needs to be shimmed, it shoots really low even thought I adjusted it all the 
way up. Dad got the gun at an auction for $3, so you know its quality. ;)
Reloads quicker than my 10 pump crossman though and that one won't kill a 
squirrel, just ring its bell...

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] This would be a good buy

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Needs cam sensor.
$1000


Excellent shape, runs great.

Needs cam sensor + filthy from sitting around =/ runs great

Maybe $750?

--R



On 7/5/15 7:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


95 s500 mercedes benz 4dr black
http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/5106981342.html

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Re: [MBZ] HURRY BEFORE IT'S GONE!!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

What's with all the tape shapes on the sides?

First time I have ever seen 1 PVC pipe used as a styling element.

--R



On 7/6/15 9:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The Hot Tub Caddy is STILL up for sale!  Hurry!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-DeVille-Hot-Tub-Car-/400948245703?forcerrptr=truehash=item5d5a60b4c7item=400948245703#
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-DeVille-Hot-Tub-Car-/400948245703?forcerrptr=truehash=item5d5a60b4c7item=400948245703#


Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ephraim and The Mule

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You have to buy the album to find out!

My buddy Legare's sister says she has the vinyl, I am going to get it 
and rip it.  Will post the files on Dropbox.


--R



On 8/11/15 8:08 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

What happened to the end of the story?  The audio dies around the five minute 
mark...



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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic brakes Wuz:This is bad

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Are they free-range, renewable, ethically-produced pads?  Not all 
organic is equal!


--R



On 8/8/15 1:02 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
FWIW:  I have never had ceramic pads on an MB.  ALL stop well, no 
problems with fade, etc with the cheap or midrange pads.  The very 
cheapest pads are ok, they just make your wheels dirtier.  Midrange 
are a little less dirty for the wheels.


OE on the MBs were organic or asbestos, depending on age. (pre 1990 MBs)
OE on the dogde were ceramic, so I used ceramic there.



DO you want or care about clean wheels?

Ceramic will keep your wheels cleaner.  I've had very good luck with 
cheap pads from oreely.  They do make your wheels dirty.  I just clean 
and paint the wheels every few years with a rattlecan. Unless you are 
driving on a race track, the cheap (organic) pads work very well.  If 
you plan to drag the brakes all the way down a mountain, they may 
fade, but I never have any problem.


Ceramic on the dogde van:  The anti skid accelerometer has been fubar 
mostly since we got the van.  Most of the time the system turns itself 
off, but sometimes the LF brake drags.  this ruins the discs and 
pads.  About 18 months ago I put new pads and rotors on; did the 
ceramic pad breakin stuff; and they were wonderful.


Unfortunately, i never figured out how to snip the purple wire 
somewhere buried under the console that is said to disable the 
antiskid system.  So the new rotors and pads are ruined.  I recently 
dug in to the console innards and found the accelerometer.  I never 
found the purple wire, but I unplugged the accelerometer, with the 
same effect.  Anti skid is now dead. There are 2 fuses you can pull to 
disable, but it also kills the speedometer, odometer and some other 
somewhat necessary systems. This is all not really the fault of 
ceramic pads, but i don't think the cheap pads would cause the rotor 
warping like these did.


The whole deal of the special breakin procedure for the ceramic pads 
is related to not warping the rotors and putting a glaze on the 
ceramic pad.




How do organic pads compare to ceramic?
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300



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[MBZ] OT Crazy Uncle Joe

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

is coming by again today.  Should I go out the end of the driveway and 
introduce him to the full moon?


--R



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[MBZ] OT some RR car pR0n vid

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://jalopnik.com/bask-in-the-sweet-serenity-of-the-rolls-royce-assembly-1722787389

--R



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Re: [MBZ] OT Crazy Uncle Joe

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

He's mulling

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150808/PC1603/150809393/1009

I think he just came by a little while ago, I heard the helicopter 
buzzing around, but I did not go out to wave the flag.


My buddy and his wife were riding their bikes on the beach when they 
were here a few weeks ago, saw Mrs. B jogging on the beach early Sunday 
morning.  She had a coupla SS guys trailing along and the Coasties had a 
dinghy following off the beach, and there was a cutter a bit further off 
shore.  I was riding my bike the afternoon they came, bunch of cops came 
flying past me in the road and closed it down, I rode on to the 
roundabout and stopped next to one of the deputies and was chatting with 
him, the motorcade came by a few minutes later.  The deputy seemed 
rather bored with the whole matter and seemed to rather be doing 
something else.  I got a bunch of pics.  It was actually fairly low-key, 
only 6 or 8 vehicles aside from ever how many cops.  It always buggers 
up the (one) road coming out this way as they have sort of a rolling 
blockade that blocks off other roads and driveways and such for 10 or 15 
minutes.  I have no idea why they don't just fly him out in a helo from 
the airport and dispense with all the drama but I guess that would be 
more involved.


He occasionally comes to the little shopping center down the road for an 
ice cream or whatever, usually fairly low-key.  I try to avoid the place 
this time a year as it is full of idiot Yankee turistas who check their 
brains at the bridge before proceeding on out this way.


--R


On 8/8/15 12:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:



On August 8, 2015 at 11:31 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


is coming by again today.  Should I go out the end of the driveway and
introduce him to the full moon?

Is he running for president again?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] $2000 for an '83 300D, 130k miles?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Offer $1500 he could probably get it.  Not like there is a huge market 
in a small town, and $2k is a bit high for a 32yo car to most people.


-R

On 8/8/15 12:24 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

My Dad found this car at a small town dealership, very nice interior and 
exterior looks rust-free with good paint.  Drives very well, but the AC doesn't 
work.  Car looks very well cared for, but no service records.

I think that's a fair price, if indeed the car is rust free or nearly so.



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Re: [MBZ] OT Crazy Uncle Joe

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

That ain't hapnin bo.  Watch this space.

--R



On 8/8/15 1:34 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe you should let them build some more roads?



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Re: [MBZ] $2000 for an '83 300D, 130k miles?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Is it a G300D?

--R



On 8/8/15 2:19 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

EPC data card says one of the options is an electronic locking differential?

Anyone know if that was a factory option for a 123 car?



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Re: [MBZ] OT Crazy Uncle Joe

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I'm sure the SS would have it on their drones and dashcams and 
gunsightcams and whatever else.


--R



On 8/8/15 1:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
is coming by again today.  Should I go out the end of the driveway 
and introduce him to the full moon?


--R



Only if someone records video to preserve the moment for history!

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Power partially out

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

No, it's a fuse, when it blows up it blasts open the connector too, but 
then they have to come replace the fuse with the stick, then close the 
knife with the stick too.  Those guys are pretty good at doing that on a 
floppy 20ft stick.


--R



On 8/12/15 2:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That would be a circuit interrupter. Those are the things you see on a pole 
near the transmission line that look sort of like a big knife switch with some 
curly wires at one end.

They're essentially a circuit breaker and will make a loud pop when they open.

The linesman will use a hotstick to reset it. If it's really damp and cool at 
night when they reset it you can often see a corona around the stick and the 
linesman when they do this. Cool.

Dan


On Aug 12, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

It's usually the fuse that blows on my line out by the road when a branch hits 
the lines that are above ground as they come back to the pole in front of the 
house.  Sounds like a shotgun going off.

--R




On 8/12/15 11:04 AM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
Sitting at my desk checking emails at 11 last night, the world suddenly went DARK and heat pump, TV - everything - cut off.  
'First though was Vehicle hit a pole or a transformer blew, but there was no noise - just sudden quiet and darkness.  I said to 
SHWMBO in adjoining room, Don't leave me, I can't stand and move around safely in complete darkness.  She replied, Well, 
right now, I can't do it very well either.  I quickly recovered, though, and whipped my iPhone out and punched the flashlight app on, 
which saved the day/night.  Hobbled across hall into kitchen, looked out and realized that neighbors still had power.  Noticed stove clock 
still on and refrigerator running and thought, Hey, what's this?  We still have some power.  Flipped kitchen light, lights came 
on; back to hall, flipped switch - no light; flipped switch for second floor landing; light came on.  'Began to think, Lost one leg 
of our power supply.  Hobbled upstairs to check bedroom lights and heat pum

p

- lights OK, heat pump inop.

'Back to kitchen, found flashlight and new batteries for SWMBO, who escorted me into 
basement and to breaker box.  'Found all breakers ON and OK.  'Looking more like 
loss of one leg of power supply at transformer.  'Back to first floor; hobbled 
outside to heat pump units to chk breakers there - found all good.  Told SWMBO, 
Go to bed if ya want, I'm gonna sit here in kitchen for a while and call power 
co.

'Couldn't find # for power co. in directory.  Finally told Siri to call 911.  Asked 
emergency dispatcher if she could help me find # for reporting power out.  'Told me to 
call 411.  Oh, of course, thanks.

'Got the # and called; after listening to series of options, finally spoke to a lady who seemed to understand 
that I had a partial outage - loss of one leg of power supply.  Man called coupla minutes later to confirm - 
Yes, I have only partial power - 120 volts in part of house, none in rest of house and no 240-volt 
power - heat pumps do not run.  He replied, OK, I got it, I think you're right.  'Sounds like 
you've lost one leg.  You should see a technician pulling up in les than 30 minutes.  Thank you, 
Sir.  I'll wait.

Shonuff, bout 25 minutes later, truck pulled up in front.  Tech, checked pwr in 
meter base; one leg of power missing.  Found loose connection at transformer; in 
about 15 min, power was back on, and I headed to bed glad that I had pursued it then, 
instead of waiting 'til morning.
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Re: [MBZ] Starter/Alternator/Battery Problem 240D

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Sounds like a bad battery

--R



On 8/15/15 7:47 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

So, the 1980 240D has strange symptoms:

  


Intermittent battery draining and when battery is recharged to full, the
ignition switch causes a loud click (the solenoid actuating) but then no
engine turning.  Are these symptoms likely associated?  Is one causing the
other?

  


TIA for your thoughts,

  


Greg

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Re: [MBZ] 190SL

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Looks like the message got approved with the pics stripped off it. I do 
not understand how pictures get linked on messages, I thought the list 
mom approved a msg with pics then the pics got converted into links.  I 
guess not.


--R



On 8/15/15 5:30 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:

Yes?   What about them?  :)

-MMM-

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:




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Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I CAN SEE HILLARY!'S EMAILS!!

--R



On 8/15/15 11:57 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Curly wrote:

Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the
email addresses subscribed to the list.  That is a huge
security  problem.

Kaleb wrote:

What the heck are you talking about? I don't see all the
email addresses listed in the postings.

Beginning before 18:04 CTD - but after 16:30 CDT - each
message has a whole stack of X-Assp-Intended-For: headers.
There used to be only one - listing mercedes@okiebenz.com.
Now there is one for what looks like every member of the
list.  This is in each and every post.

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[MBZ] OT This thing looks kinda interesting

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Looks like some sort of Apple device embedded in the rcvr, you can use 
it to throw your ifon apps onto it, kinda like with an AppleTV


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA08C2KV6176nm_mc=EMC-MP081615cm_mmc=EMC-MP081615-_-EMC-081615-Index-_-index-_-9SIA08C2KV6176

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I ride so fast the wind rushing past my ears drowns out the Pioi and Teslas

--R



On 8/18/15 1:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I find this odd, is your hearing poor? I think the Prii make an awful lot of road noise 
for what seems like it should be a quiet car. I see them in parking lots and think 
I thought the engine was supposed to be off for low speed maneuvers.
Heck I was surprised how much noise the Nissan Leaf made when I drove it. Everything I'd 
heard/read said nearly silent and if thats true most people have an odd 
attitude to silence.
-Curt


   From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 12:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart

Speaking of Pioi, I had to go to store this morning to get a paper since

mine did not show up as usual.  I saw a Tesla coming through the parking
lot, total stealth mode on those things.  Dangerous, you can't hear them
trying to run you down.  I have had 2 close encounters in that parking
lot, and one on the road leading out, with Pioi while riding my bike.

--R



On 8/18/15 11:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:



Same reason for buying a pious.  It makes you fl good (cuz you
are savin' tha envir'ment)


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Speaking of Pioi, I had to go to store this morning to get a paper since 
mine did not show up as usual.  I saw a Tesla coming through the parking 
lot, total stealth mode on those things.  Dangerous, you can't hear them 
trying to run you down.  I have had 2 close encounters in that parking 
lot, and one on the road leading out, with Pioi while riding my bike.


--R



On 8/18/15 11:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Same reason for buying a pious.  It makes you fl good (cuz you 
are savin' tha envir'ment) 



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Re: [MBZ] Abandoned '98 e320 diesel

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

So this thing has been sitting there with nothing done to it for 3 
years, it has cost him nothing and he wants $1500?  Dreamer.  The owner 
could have unloaded it for $1500 if he thinks he could get that, instead 
of giving it away to him.  Or maybe he has some deal with her, he gets a 
percentage or something?  Buy it for cheap as a beater, if nothing else 
you could find another engine or tranny if the body is good and those 
are trashed, or just fix it and have a cheap car you could flip if you 
got it running.


--R



On 8/19/15 1:01 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Sitting unused for 3 years is not a good thing.
Can they fire it up at all?
Does the transmission shift?
Does the AC blow cold?

What else might go wrong with a car that sits for that long?

RB

On 19/08/2015 11:56 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

The shop next to my CrossFit gym has had a 98 E320 diesel sitting in the
parking lot for about 3 years. Every so often, I talk with the shop in
order to find out what the status of the repair is. He always tells 
me the
lady is trying to get money together. So today I stopped in to ask 
him how
it was going and he told me that the lady has finally just brought 
him the

title. He told me he's ready to sell it to me and he'd like to get $1500
for it as it sits. He said that when it was brought in three years 
ago, it
wasn't running well and it had a fuel leak out of the back of the 
injector

pump. It's a 98 with 273K miles on it according to the title. Body and
interior are very good.
What thinketh all y'all?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD 1987 woes.

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You are correct sir, but I was using the Universal Translator to reach 
out to the masses


--R



On 8/18/15 4:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

There's your problem, you didn't check your TIRES

--R



On 8/18/15 4:14 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

tyre pressures



Rich, I thought in your country, it is tars

Up  in Fred's paht of the counthy, I think it is Tiahs.  Is that right?

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Re: [MBZ] 300TD 1987 woes.

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

There's your problem, you didn't check your TIRES

--R



On 8/18/15 4:14 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

tyre pressures



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Re: [MBZ] 300TD 1987 woes.

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Yeah the 84 SD kickdown switch got buggered and would not let it shift 
up.  New switch fixed that.


You need the G Mann to get you the proper filter!

--R



On 8/18/15 3:53 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

If you're karma improves, you've got a stuck kick-down switch.  Try
disconnecting that.

Next would be fluid and filter change.  I think Curly has experience with
filters clogging up and collapsing and causing all manner of misbehavior?
I think Mann is the recommended filter, if you don't buy at the dealer?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Alles.Well, there I was going to the shore for a week,, 92 deg and an open
road what could be better?At 65 mph in second gear and 5k revs? That can't
be good. Sh*t, now what?Exit at next ramp in Avon and came to rest at
Dunkin Donuts, not too shabby, except that the temp guage crept up to 120
deg.Tea and a bagel and quiet for an hour and everything was cooler. Still
have only 1, 2, R, no 3 or 4.Towed home and swapped for the rusty trusty
300TD and off to the shore, again, successfully.My wife said that it was
karma payback for wearing my under draws inside out!Any ideas about
transmissive transgressions?
Fred the puzzled wants to know.
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Texas Hill Country had some decent stuff, mostly not available outside 
Texas but it was quite drinkable, and a couple had won some awards.


--R



On 8/18/15 4:28 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

There are several wineries popping up in OK also - however the stuff they
produce is difficult to drink.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Its interesting to see wineries popping up outside of traditional grape
growing regions, theres one in Presque Isle, Maine growing some magic
hybrid grape that can take the cold.Last I knew there was a vodka
distillery too.
-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Woodpeckers attack!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

My problem, though I have a lot of noisy woodpeckers around, is 
peckerwoods.  I'm wondering how to deal with them.


--R



On 8/18/15 5:52 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Oh no.  I just chased off two woodpeckers, eating something out of the wood 
trim along an eave.

Fresh wood under the paint looks fine from a distance...



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Re: [MBZ] OT Lambo

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Yes

--R


On 8/21/15 10:05 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Another Lambo, or another wife?  ;)

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it was his wife I am sure he could afford
another one.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Harbor Freight Tools Huge Parking Lot Sale

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

The HF stuff is reasonable for the price, I have an air hose and various 
fittings, they work.  I have the $20 recip saw, that thing just won't 
die.  I expected it to last $20 worth, but so far it has done very well 
with some abusive use.


Take a look at banggood.com for some really cheap stuff, order it from 
China and it shows up some time later in the mail or UPS or whatever.  
I'm not sure how they can make any money with the free shipping on stuff 
but it is all reasonable quality, probably the same stuff every other 
store sells just factory direct with minimal markup.  Some tools, but 
lots of other random stuff.  dealextreme same thing.


--R



On 8/20/15 10:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

In case anyone is interested:

http://www.harborfreight.com/

LARGEST SALE EVER
SHOP ONLINE  IN-STORE!
3 DAYS ONLY! * FRI, SAT, SUN * AUG 21, 22  23

LIQUIDATION SALE
HUNDREDS OF FACTORY DISCONTINUED, CLEARANCE ITEMS
FRIDAY   50%
SATURDAY 60%
SUNDAY   87%


I'm going to look for a 50' air hose to make into a tire inflator.
I've never been to one of these things (well, maybe once), so it
should be interesting ...

I've ordered the fittings, air chuck, and tire pressure gauge from Amazon
(Milton Industries brand) because I want those to be first quality.


Craig

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[MBZ] OT Lambo

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

So the stupid paper guy does not deliver my papers this morning, I go to 
the store down the road to get some.  I see a new topless black Lambo 
parked outside the store, very cool.  Thing is about 2ft high.


I go in get the papers, as I am leaving and driving by, I see this guy 
helping this older woman get into the pass side of the thing, she is 
having considerable trouble dropping down into the seat, he is laughing 
at her.  Hard to tell how old the guy was, so not sure if it was his 
mother or wife.  If it was his wife I am sure he could afford another one.


--R



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Re: [MBZ] OT Lambo

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Rainbow paint job with Obama  and Hillary! (or Bernie) stickers

--R



On 8/21/15 10:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

So one wonders what Grant's dream car might be.  A Prius in a custom color,
e.g. purple?

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:44 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

wrote:
Obviously, the guy was out with his perfect date.. Terrible rich, older
than dirt it's self, one foot on a banana peel and the other in the grave,
with a cane in one hand and a will in the other leaving everything to him..

Of course he was helping her in the car and laughing.. the cad.. ;))  His
only question is What color should the new Lambo be.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


So the stupid paper guy does not deliver my papers this morning, I go to
the store down the road to get some.  I see a new topless black Lambo
parked outside the store, very cool.  Thing is about 2ft high.

I go in get the papers, as I am leaving and driving by, I see this guy
helping this older woman get into the pass side of the thing, she is

having

considerable trouble dropping down into the seat, he is laughing at her.
Hard to tell how old the guy was, so not sure if it was his mother or
wife.  If it was his wife I am sure he could afford another one.

--R



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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Bad lip reading

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I saw that yesterday, very funny stuff

With Bernie and Hillary! it would all be like Freesh..tuff, 
Freesh..tuff, Freesh..tuff, Freesh..tuff  '


--R



On 8/21/15 12:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Republican debate, NFL mic'ed.  All in good fun..

I
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/19/1413598/-Bad-Lip-Reading-takes-on-the-first-Republican-debate-and-it-may-be-the-best-thing-ever?detail=email?detail=email
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Re: [MBZ] He main lined some heroin tonight and the price went way up

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Or at least as long as the AC BLOWS ICE COLD

--R

On 8/22/15 6:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

He wants to keep it 4ever.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD
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[MBZ] OT Airplane pR0n of the day

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://flightclub.jalopnik.com/breathtaking-blue-bugatti-100p-replica-finally-makes-fi-1725669099

--R

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Re: [MBZ] This might be a decent buy

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I want it

--R



On 8/21/15 11:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


1970 Mercedes 280 SE Base
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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

So I found the fuse chart in a paper that was folded up and tucked in 
the fuse box, it has the map for all the boxes in Deutsche, Anglis, and 
some other language.  Found the ciggy lighter fuse, and of course there 
are no spare fuses and no fuse puller thingie.  Had a 15A fuse in my 
toolbox so popped the old one out, it was fried, popped the new one in, 
now there is juice to the ciggy lighter phone charger thingie.  Mama 
will be happy now.  Unclear why she did not mention it to the dealer 
when she took the vehicle in for the A or B service or whatever it was 
on Friday week ago.  Sigh.


The ones in the car are marked S as in 15S, is S the German for A?  
Did they have their own guy named Schultz or something who discovered 
current flow, and this is some sort of snub to M. Ampere?  (Hey, Dieter, 
throw me a 15 Schultz fuse in there willya?)


I should probably go buy a coupla boxes of fuses and a little puller 
thingie to put in there so next time it blows I can tell her how to 
CHANGE YOUR FUSES!


BTW the service consisted mostly of a 10k mile checkup and filters 
(engine and cabin) change, maybe oil too I forgot to notice, which 
according to the dealer guy would have been like $900 but it was covered 
under the CPO or warranty we got or something.  Another one is included, 
so after another 20k miles I guess I am going to have to do all that 
stuff (and buy myself a good bottle or 3 of whisky). She was ragging 
about why it is so expensive to do that stuff.  I tried to explain but I 
was having a hard time convincing myself.


Will the DAS system cover this 2012 ML?  Or is there something else like 
it?  I should look into that if I am going to have to maintain this 
thing myself.  I'm wondering too if the main computer in the thing talks 
to all that stuff and there might be some kind of special codes to get 
into it?  That would make some kind of sense, at least some Merkin sense.


--R

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[MBZ] car hacking

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

This is quite fascinating 
http://hackaday.com/2015/08/22/how-those-hacker-took-complete-control-of-that-jeep


--R



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Charlotte, NC?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I'm gonna be up in Sparkleburg this weekend, Charlotte is like an hour 
away, I might could pick it up and bring it back home and ship it from here.


--R



On 8/22/15 5:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Got a guy with an SL cover I want.  He doesn’t want to ship it.

Anybody in the area that might be able to pick it up and dump it in USPS or UPS 
for me?

Thanks,

Dan
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[MBZ] These old Benz's are unstoppable.

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Especially with no vacuum

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5178778290.html

--R



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Re: [MBZ] Another 108

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Rust on the lower back of trunk lid?

--R



On 8/23/15 5:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


1970 Mercedes 280SE
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[MBZ] Complications -- MB 7 speed tranny

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://youtu.be/7tfiowxUTBs

--R (sent from my miniPad)
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Re: [MBZ] This might be a decent buy

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Check this one out for some ambition

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5182789739.html

--R

On 8/23/15 5:09 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Max wrote:

Mao, ready for a road trip?

Jaime?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Golf speedo

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I thought this was about some fat pasty white European guy wearing a 
Speedo while golfing.


NEED BRAIN BLEACH

--R



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Re: [MBZ] He is either from New Jersey or is on crack

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Both

--R



On 8/19/15 8:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] heat

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

*I think most people in Fargo go for the TruCoat, it keeps the cars from 
rusting out


--R


Customer*: We sat here right in this room and went over this and over this!
*Jerry*: Yeah, but that TruCoat--
*Customer*: I sat right here and said I didn't want no TruCoat!
*Jerry*: Yeah, but I'm sayin', that TruCoat, you don't get it and you 
get oxidization problems. It'll cost you a heck of lot more'n five hundred--
*Customer*: You're sittin' here, you're talkin' in circles! You're 
talkin' like we didn't go over this already!

*Jerry*: Yeah, but this TruCoat--
*Customer*: We had us a deal here for nine-teen-five. You sat there and 
darned if you didn't tell me you'd get this car, these options, without 
the sealant, for nine-teen-five!

*Jerry*: All right, I'm not sayin' I didn't--
*Customer*: You called me twenty minutes ago and said you had it! Ready 
to make delivery, ya says! Come on down and get it! And here ya are and 
you're wastin' my time and you're wastin' my wife's time and I'm payin' 
nineteen-five for this vehicle here!
*Jerry*: All right. I'll talk to my boss. See, they install that TruCoat 
at the factory, there's nothin' we can do, but I'll talk to my boss.

/[Jerry leaves the room]/
*Customer*: /[to his wife]/ These guys here--these guys! It's always the 
same! It's always more!

/[Other room]/
*Jerry*: You goin' to the Gophers on Sunday?
*Salesman*: Oh you betcha.
*Jerry*: You wouldn't happen to have an extra ticket?
*Salesman*: You kiddin'!
/[Jerry returns to his office]/
*Jerry*: Well, he never done this before. But seeing as it's special 
circumstances and all, he says I can knock a hundred dollars off that 
Trucoat.
*Customer*: One hundred--You lied to me, Mr Lundegaard. You're a 
bald-faced liar. A  liar.

*Customer's Wife*: Bucky, please.
*Customer*: Where's my  check book? Let's get this over with.

On 8/18/15 10:44 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

My Pop lives / summers in Fargo, spends some time during winter in either
AZ or visiting other relatives down south.

Fargo is great for car lovers, I don't think they or any other place in ND
use road salt in the winter, so rust is not the big deal like other
northern states.  The issue was high property values, due to the oil boom,
but that may be changing now.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Heck, if finances permitted I would love to have a summer home in
Wisconsin for retirement.  My only concern would be having all my “stuff”
in both locations.

Dan




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Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Find a wrecked AMG and drop something in there

--R


On 8/16/15 2:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

What? Mercedes made a sorry engine??? A carbureted engine should be
relatively easy to modify, remove the smog controls, get the power back,
etc. Install a couple of Webers, or a Holley . . .
Of course, replacing the engine with an OM603 would be best!

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


It's a U.S. Spec carb'ed M110.  A pretty sorry combination.

Jaime







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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I found some pdfs of the charts for the 4(!!!) fuse boxes that some MB 
tech posted, including a vid that shows where the pass side panel is 
(not where the manual says it is).  I guess they are findable on some MB 
maintenance server somewhere, probably only accessible by techs.  She 
just left on errands, I'll look at it when she gets back.


--R



On 8/22/15 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s nothing.  My 2003 S430 (W220) has four fuse boxes.  And some electrical 
items have “electronic fuses” as MB calls them.  It’s a fancy name for saying 
that they’re using an SCR to control a circuit, and it limits current if it 
sees a ground or short circuit.

Makes troubleshooting tough sometimes, too.  I had a side marker light out.  I 
test the bulb with a meter.  Open circuit.  For grins I checked the socket for 
power with the light switch on.  Nothing.

Further studying revealed that if there’s no load, the “electronic fuse” won’t 
pass power to the circuit.

Put a new 5W bulb in and it worked.

Dan


On Aug 22, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

So my wife wants to power her phone from a cig plug charger in the 2012 ML.  
There is a ciggy lighter in the front console, and the manual shows either/both 
a 12V socket there, but hers only has the ciggy lighter.  I try to get the 
lighter out, push it down, nothing happens.  So I pry it out, put in the 
charger, no juice.

So I pop the hood, find the fuse box and there are only a few small fuses in there and 
some relays and a 50A or 2 and no chart of anything.  WTF?  So then I download the manual 
(she does not leave it in the car for some reason) and it shows there are 3 (!!!) fuse 
boxes scattered around the car, one in the side of the dash by the pass door and another 
under the back seat.  I try to find the one by the door, there is none there.  WTF???  So 
the manual says The fuse allocation chart is located under cover of the rear 
one.  So I open that one up, it has some fuses in it too, but no chart.  WTF The 79 
TD has a nice printed chart under the fuse box cover!  I had to cut a little tab on the 
carpet cover too to get it lifted up, so I guess no one has ever been in that fuse box.

Have the Germans completely lost it?  (Or maybe the Alabama assembly workers?)  
Neither of the boxes has a fuse chart, how the hell are you supposed to figure 
out what fuse might need to be changed?  Good news is the fuses seem to be the 
newer flat things, I have a ton of those around but no idea which one to pull.

Off to the tubes to try to find a fuse chart

--R

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[MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

So my wife wants to power her phone from a cig plug charger in the 2012 
ML.  There is a ciggy lighter in the front console, and the manual shows 
either/both a 12V socket there, but hers only has the ciggy lighter.  I 
try to get the lighter out, push it down, nothing happens.  So I pry it 
out, put in the charger, no juice.


So I pop the hood, find the fuse box and there are only a few small 
fuses in there and some relays and a 50A or 2 and no chart of anything.  
WTF?  So then I download the manual (she does not leave it in the car 
for some reason) and it shows there are 3 (!!!) fuse boxes scattered 
around the car, one in the side of the dash by the pass door and another 
under the back seat.  I try to find the one by the door, there is none 
there.  WTF???  So the manual says The fuse allocation chart is located 
under cover of the rear one.  So I open that one up, it has some fuses 
in it too, but no chart.  WTF The 79 TD has a nice printed chart 
under the fuse box cover!  I had to cut a little tab on the carpet cover 
too to get it lifted up, so I guess no one has ever been in that fuse box.


Have the Germans completely lost it?  (Or maybe the Alabama assembly 
workers?)  Neither of the boxes has a fuse chart, how the hell are you 
supposed to figure out what fuse might need to be changed?  Good news is 
the fuses seem to be the newer flat things, I have a ton of those around 
but no idea which one to pull.


Off to the tubes to try to find a fuse chart

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT More NOAA bias toward Global Warming

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I see 3 issues:

1.  Is GW happening?

2.  If Yes, what is causing it?

3.  If Yes to 1 and to 2 something within our control, then what is to 
be done about it, by whom, who pays, who controls the spending, etc.?


--R



On 8/20/15 4:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I guess we can all rest easy now - global warming is obviously a total hoax.

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


A little something to liven up the list!


http://www.realclearpolicy.com/blog/2015/08/20/the_latest_climate_kerfuffle_1397.html

August 20, 2015The Latest Climate Kerfuffle*By**Patrick Michaels*
http://www.realclearpolicy.com/authors/patrick_michaels/

Are political considerations superseding scientific ones at the National
Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration?


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[MBZ] A kilo of CL crack

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://jalopnik.com/the-ten-worst-deals-on-craigslist-right-now-1725188130

I like the Roller

--R

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Bernie is the unapologetic socialist that Hillary! wants to be, and 
doesn't have all the baggage of lies and criminal activity, so I'd say 
go with Bernie since the Cherokee Princess has not jumped in yet.  He is 
also a lot more entertaining than Hilz and doesn't have that 
paint-stripping vocal manner.


But, what difference, at this point, does it make?

--R



On 6/30/15 10:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


You are emitting displaced emissions -- time-displaced
emissions. The solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of
years ago when the whole Earth was globally warm, before racist
bigot trans/homophobe misogynistic gun-totin bible-thumping battle
flag-wavin non-rainbow rednecks, and turned into all which turns
into dino-dizzel (unless you use newer solar-powered soybean
bio-dizzel) so really you are using solar power that is millions
of years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a giant solar-powered
chemical battery that just happens to be a liquid you can pump
into a tank and combust in your German dizzel engine.

You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in
your Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.

--R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange
yellow green blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)




On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada. No
Suburban smog, no
CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.

--R




On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Oh my lord

Sent from my iPhone

  On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via
Mercedes 

mercedes@okiebenz.com
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

So-called natural pollution wouldn't be burning
your eyes if not for
dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated
by human activity
(burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult
for you to understand?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via
Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning. 
by 10 am it was hazy.


By
5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this
from one suburban!!

The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!
Oh The pollution!  Oh The
Humanity!


no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!


...


...


...

Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in
Canyada.

But the point is that natural pollution far
exceeds the total
accumulation
of all manmade pollution.  Volcanoes, forest
fars etc create massive
pollution, and generally within hours, the
earf's regenerative powers
(trees) have mitigated the pollution.

For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being
obscured so I didn't get
sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the
same today so the sun is
still obscured.

Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60
miles on my tractor. 1950
style!

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I have a serious question here, Andy is the just the guy to help me out.

Hillary! very clearly has some huge baggage she is dragging around, most 
recently this whole business with the personal unsecured email server, 
running national-sensitive stuff through it, lying about it, not turning 
over all the stuff that has been subpoenaed, using employees of her 
foundation to run intel operations, stonewalling Congress, taking huge 
amounts of foreign money into the foundation while SoS and dealing with 
issues related to those donations, ... the list goes on.


Are Hillary! supporters really blind to all of this, or does it not 
matter, or do they think that none of this is real or has any relevance 
to the assumption that it is Her Turn?


I really want to know this.  I don't want partisan bashing of her or any 
other candidate, I truly want to know if the HRC supporters have 
explanations for all this that makes it irrelevant to her candidacy.  I 
have friends/acquaintances who really see nothing here to be concerned 
about, but can't articulate any reasons.  It's like they just ignore it, 
or don't see it, or something, when clearly it is out there and fairly 
important stuff.


--R



On 6/30/15 12:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

It's a tossup as to who is the greater buffoon between him and Christie,
who officially announced today.  Get out the popcorn.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:00 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

Trump. American needs a successful businessman/wheeler-dealer in the
highest office to straighten out the nation. We've had enough mealy-mouthed
politicians for a while. Trump always tells it like it is.
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

He is perfectly grounded in hair reality.  He announced that when 
elected president he will change his hairstyle to something more 
manageable and that takes less time to deal with.  He's gonna be too 
busy for an elaborate combover!


--R



On 6/30/15 2:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Correction, Trump tells it as he sees it through his warped lens. Dude is 
crazy, how anybody with hair that bad could dare to criticize someone else I'll 
never understand.
His latests slam of latinos is pretty telling...
-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

This is pretty funny

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2015/06/30/millennials-in-shock-over-hillarys-cribs-n2019141

--R

On 6/30/15 4:04 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I don't know how anyone could support HRC.  Her record consists of
incompetence, coverups, and conspiracy to cover up.  Bernie is a socialist,
and I don't want a socialist president.  But at least he would provide a
clear choice to the voters: WYSIWYG, not a political shape-shifter like HRC.

Greg



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Re: [MBZ] 55 MPG!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I was going to ask if that color was primer gray but I don't want to 
waste his valuable time


--R



On 7/28/15 9:12 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/5139293555.html

Rick
Sent from my BlackBerry Z10

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Re: [MBZ] okie****?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Apologies for the salty term, this was supposed to go to the site mom, 
or one of them, but mom apparently used the main email address.


All seems to be working now.

--R


On 7/29/15 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

Sent some mails this morning, none have gone through

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Tater gun stuffed with a shrimp throw net, you catch it you keep it.

I just got a 1600 mW solid state laser from China that runs off 12V (I 
think, I haven't really looked at it yet) to put on a little burning 
machine, I got to thinking that mounting that sucker on a quadcopter 
with some targeting software and FPV goggles would be just the thing 
when them crackas show up wanting their machine back.   Say hello to my 
leetle fren  CAUTION:  Do Not Look at Laser with Remaining Eye


Or even better than the spud gun but then the device would be disabled 
if the brains got burned through.


--R



On 7/30/15 9:52 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

I see a market for gun-like tool which shoots a net or somesuch to bring
down a drone.  Keep the drone until anyone claiming to be the owner can
prove they are the owner in a court of law.  After enough publicity, 
jail
time  fines for those breaking federal laws, and just the pure 
hassle of

getting your drone back, drone incidents like this will be reduced.

-
Max
Charleston SC


Yes.  A spider man web slinger.  I've also thought this to be the 
perfect solution.


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Re: [MBZ] Why diesel prices are plummeting

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

There was an article in the WSJ a coupla days ago about gasoline and 
diesel inventories, and diesel is way high due to it being a byproduct 
of gasoline refining, and gasoline is being refined at a high rate, 
apparently due to some refineries having recently come on line in the 
Middle East.  (It wasn't clear where all the gasoline was going, or if 
it was going, or the stuff was just being refined to keep up with the 
petroleum that is being pumped) The stuff seems to be building up 
everywhere and coupled with high inventories and weak demand prices are 
expected to remain quite low for some time. And now the Iranium supplies 
will be hitting the world market so expect further price declines.


--R



On 7/30/15 9:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

My local River Road Valero is at the lowest ever - $2.79/gal.  This means
the Rockville Gulf is probably at $2.50

US, East Coast ULSD stocks set record highs: EIA data

Houston (Platts)--29Jul2015/403 pm EDT/2003 GMT

US ULSD stocks rose to a record high for the fourth straight week, as East
Coast stocks also hit a record for the fifth straight week, according to
Energy Information Administration data released Wednesday.

Total US stocks of ULSD rose about 2 million barrels in the week that ended
Friday to 123.91 million barrels, the highest level since EIA began
collecting the data in 2004.

US stocks have risen to a record each of the last four weeks, with most of
the stock builds concentrated in the East Coast.

East Coast stocks of ULSD rose 2.32 million barrels to 41.02 million
barrels, the highest ever. Stock builds in the East Coast also have set
records in each of the last five weeks.
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I do that with my guide named Charon

--R



On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt and track 
the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told. At least he 
was sporting about it.



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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Cheap Crosman pellet gun is your answer.  Quiet (except when I lube the 
barrel then you get a supersonic crack as the pellet exits the barrel) 
and effective once tuned a bit.  I have cleaned out the squirrel 
infestation in the immediate area, at least until my wife refills the 
squirrel feeders, and then I will have more to deal with as the ones 
with no knowledge of the Crosman re-infestate the area.


--R



On 7/30/15 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Meanhwile, a large gopher, mini chipmunk, and baby cotton tail have 
the run of my back yard and make their home under the rear deck.  The 
bunny is decapitating my pepper plants.  I sprayed bitter apple to 
deter him/her but it washed off after Tuesday's thundershower.  I have 
seen the gopher returning home from a foraging to the back 40 after a 
day of hunting (what??) so he probably has no interest in my tomatoes 
and peppers.


On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I do that with my guide named Charon

--R



On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left
to hunt and track the animals for several days. Rarely used a
guide, so I was told. At least he was sporting about it.



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[MBZ] Best dealer to get your CLK trannie taken apart

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150801/PC2107/150809912/1136/for-third-year-running-baker-motor-company-named-a-x2018-best-dealership-to-work-for-x2019-nationwide

--R



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Re: [MBZ] OT gold (and everything else) is crashing

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

We are in the 6th Summer of Recovery now, and Crazy Uncle Joe is 
preparing to challenge She Whose Turn It Is, so I'm sure Summers of 
Recovery shall continue unabated for years to come.


--R



On 8/2/15 12:15 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Relax, leaderships trickle up poverty plan is working.

Soon, America will be on a level playing field with all the Third World
Countries and it's citizens will be content to sell themselves as slaves in
sweat shop labor.

The Ruling Class will survive with plenty of slave labor to support them.
Don't forget the power of a pen and a phone..

Snark off

Grant...

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Anyone else notice that gold has been dropping like a rock for the past

couple of weeks?

Maybe Trump and Soros are selling off their holdings in preparation for
the
coming war-of-words?

China or Russia getting ready to buy Greece?

-
Max
Charleston SC


Or coming financial meltdown.

Commodity prices are very low, scrap metals are at abysmal low levels.
people are not buying fuel.  household income has been going down for years.

Yellow grease and white list are the lowest they have been in the summer
for years.  Farmers are losing money, farmland is crashing.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Kay and Steele sketch spoofing American values

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I knew a guy about 20 years ago who was going to get some surplus RPVs 
from A Government Agency and set up cell phone repeaters on them to 
provide service in Africa and other infrastructure-challenged areas.  
These things could stay up a week or two, orbiting at 70k ft+, above 
most of the weather (you can figure out what their mission was for The 
Government Agency).  Not sure whatever became of it, but he had run the 
numbers and it looked pretty good.


--R

On 7/30/15 3:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Speaking of drones:


MENLO PARK, California (AP) — Facebook says it will begin test flights
later this year of a solar-powered drone with the wingspan of a Boeing 737,
the next stage of its campaign to deliver Internet service to remote parts
of the world.

Engineers at the giant social network say they've built a drone with a
140-foot wingspan that weighs less than 1,000 pounds. It will use lasers to
send Internet signals to stations on the ground.

The project is part of a broader effort by Facebook that also contemplates
using satellites and other high-tech gear to deliver Internet connectivity
to hundreds of millions of people living in regions too remote for
conventional service.

Facebook rival Google is experimenting with high-altitude balloons and
satellites in a program that has similar goals.




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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Interesting that you mention that, he got those to correct a vision 
problem he has had since a child when he got hit in the head with a ball 
or rock or something, and I think some surgery to correct it in the last 
coupla years and hence the spectacles to assist with the problem.  The 
Democrats/Progressives have had a lot of fun with it, and I guess now 
the Trumpster.  Fools all.


So you like making fun of people's disabilities, and love those who do?  
How does that go over in the workplace?  Hey, Four-eyes, how ya doin?  
hahahaha  Hey, Gimp, drag yourself over here!  That is so funny!!!


--R (whose interest in the general Republocrat clown show is totally 
minimal at this point)




On 7/30/15 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I love Trump's assessment of Rick Perry's glasses - wearing them to make
him look smart.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Andy sez:  I suggest someone release armadilloes into the first R debate

next week,
perhaps the second as well


Good idea, so long as the d debates are held where each candidate stands
on a hill of fireants.  That would make it entertaining to watch.   However
it could be argued that Bernie IS the hills of fireants to the other
candidates   The ONLY one who has the guts to speak what he believes.


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Re: [MBZ] Today's BATsh*t Crazy Car

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Can Kleb drive his dizzel pickup and trailer there?  $500 is like 65k 
yen these days


--R



On 7/29/15 9:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

http://bringatrailer.com/2015/07/28/custom-cabrio-nightmare-project-1968-mercedes-benz-600s/

Wow.

Sent from my iPad
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[MBZ] OT I'm pretty sure it would be easy to kill yourself with this thing

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

At least 2 or 3 different ways

http://makezine.com/2015/07/29/making-the-switch

--R



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[MBZ] testtesttest

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

pass fail

--R

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Re: [MBZ] testtesttest

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Interestingly, I saw the original msg in my (new) gmail acct right away 
but it has not yet shown up here in the acct from which I sent it.


I have been rejected for a few days now, it looks like I am once again 
part of the cabal.  I'm wondering my original email provider has gone 
wonky, or if it and okiebenz are having a spat.


--R



On 8/5/15 11:02 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

You passed to FAIL!



pass fail

--R


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Mary Edith Reiff hammered that Latin into me, made me read the Virge in 
Latina, and that is where I remember it from.  The Romans and the Greeks 
often had different views on godly and underworldly matters, and various 
other subjects, and it continues even now.


--R (got my coins ready to put in my eyes)



On 7/30/15 11:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Wikipedia says both...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon_(mythology)

-Curt
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Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:19 AM
  Subject: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny

Uh, Charon ferried people across Acheron, not Styx, I believe.


Dan not quite down to the 5th Circle

Sent from my iPad


On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

I do that with my guide named Charon

--R




On 7/30/15 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
He did this stuff by getting dropped off in the Styx and left to hunt and track 
the animals for several days. Rarely used a guide, so I was told. At least he 
was sporting about it.


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[MBZ] okiefukced?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Sent some mails this morning, none have gone through

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Awesome W111 coupe but is the color authentic?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Looks like Ferrari stole it too

http://jalopnik.com/2016-ferrari-488-spider-this-is-it-1720604540

--R

On 7/28/15 4:14 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:


Seller replied with the following: We believe it is the original 
color scheme. The blue is called Blau (Blue) DB387  I think they got 
Maaco to repaint the car.  What do y'all thinlk?


http://www.paintscratch.com/touch_up_paint/Mercedes-Benz/1968-Mercedes-Benz-All-Models-Blue-Metallic--DB-387.htmlhttp://www.paintscratch.com/touch_up_paint/Mercedes-Benz/1968-Mercedes-Benz-All-Models-Blue-Metallic--DB-387.html 





FAIL:

See: 
http://www.classicway.de/Blau%20metallic%20(Blue%20metallic)%20_111/w_387/Mercedes_.htm


James B Sinatra had a 250SE in this color.  The photos of the couple 
for sale are not the correct color for  DB387.


I got to drive around Sinatra's car and I loved the huge sunroof and 
the performance.  The color was nice too.


Good catch on the fake, andrew.

James B: 
http://architectureau.com/articles/landscape-architecture-pioneer-receives-honorary-doctorate/


Pineapple head
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Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

PB Blaster I have found to be pretty good at getting rusty things 
losened then you can go at them with other stuff.


--R (who knows he suggested acetone/transgender fluid so I am not a looser)



On 7/28/15 5:18 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

fmiser wrote

I acquired a monster chain-type come-a-long and am
currently soaking the chain in a (covered) bucket of ATF
and acetone. We'll see...  It took most of a gallon of
used ATF to cover the chain.  I put a bit less than 2
cups of acetone.  Maybe not enough - but I'm cheap!

MG wrote:

If you can get the chain out of the come-along the best way
to clean it of rust is to put it into a small electric
cement mixer along with a couple of shovels of sand. Worked
for me a couple of times now. Soaking it in oil doesn't
really get any rust off.

The chain on this is a roller drive-type chain.  Think
bicycle or motorcycle - but _big_.  It is only slightly
rusty.  At one end of the chain I use ATF and some movement
and got the chain flexing well.  My objective is to get oil
into the joints so they will move - probably will require
some elbow grease.

I have disassembled, cleaned, and lubricated the drive unit
and the block.  Once the chain is flexing well it should be
fully operational.  I don't know what I'm going to do with
the monster then.

It's a Yale PC series roller chain lever hoist.  The roller
chain is not very flexible side-to-side, but super strong and
long lasting.  Though it's rated for 6000 lb [2700 kg], it
sure looks like it could lift triple that.

The pictures are crummy, but kinda mine looks kinda like this listing.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yale-3-4-ton-Pul-Lift-Lever-Hoist-PL46C-5-ft-chain-/371386811879

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