Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 08:31:54PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2015-11-30, Tati Chevron wrote: in my case, a USB stick would be actually useful for installing machines -- unlike the CD sets (I haven't had a working optical drive in the last 5+ years). Any chance for

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

> Software development. :D > > More importantly, what can users do to make it easier for developers to > write code? That is the important question to ask when a thought like this > comes up. Is it more efficient of developer time for me to purchase my own > usb stick and deal with it myself,

Re: Fwd: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 04:48:05PM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > Even removed the table password? Yes. > NO way anymore to have difference password for emails then the system > password without smtp-extra install? You may want to read table(5) the section about credentials tables. > I can

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

Em 30-11-2015 19:34, Theo de Raadt escreveu: > These days the CD revenue is about what a cashier at a store makes. This is truly sad, to not say tragical. > > It seems to keep shrinking, but I will try to keep doing it unless it > nears zero; at which point the artwork will stop also. > > I'm

Fwd: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src

Even removed the table password? NO way anymore to have difference password for emails then the system password without smtp-extra install? I can understand may be sqlite and ldap, but as a base system having different password from the system was and is very useful and I do it on all systems.

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

Theo de Raadt writes: > I don't know, but I'll think about it later, because I am busy. > I am spending my day making a non-writeable USB stick for the OP. That's nice. Although a simple 'no' would have sufficed of course. I have been told that buying CD sets is useful

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

> >>(Making them unconditionally read-only would be probably a good thing, > >>too.) > > > > This, too, I see a value in. > > And who is going to trust this? There's a significantly higher bar > to invisibly tampering with a pressed and printed CD than a USB stick. > (Also it kind-of makes the

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

Em 30-11-2015 19:03, Tati Chevron escreveu: > Again, the original idea wasn't mine. I commented on the thread, but in > my mind, I imagined receiving the install source on a medium that had the > same bar to tampering as a CD, such as masked rom. I wasn't thinking of > a standard USB flash

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

> >> I would buy an official release on USB or preferably sd card, if it > >> was on offer. Presumably the production costs would be less as well. > > > >Cloning CDs from a master is something that can be farmed out > >relatively easily. Writing an image to USB/SD, not so much, especially > >when

Re: whats wrong with me?

On 2015-11-30 20:52, Krzysztof Strzeszewski wrote: Hi, whats wrong?: httpd: could not parse macro definition SSL httpd[21336]: server_tls_init: failed to configure TLS - failed to read private key: Operation not supported by device Krzysztof Strzeszewski Hey Krzysztof, Two reasons why you

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

> Em 30-11-2015 19:03, Tati Chevron escreveu: > > Again, the original idea wasn't mine. I commented on the thread, but in > > my mind, I imagined receiving the install source on a medium that had the > > same bar to tampering as a CD, such as masked rom. I wasn't thinking of > > a standard USB

A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

Hi, in my case, a USB stick would be actually useful for installing machines -- unlike the CD sets (I haven't had a working optical drive in the last 5+ years). Any chance for 5.9? (Making them unconditionally read-only would be probably a good thing, too.) M. -- id' Ash = Ash; id' Dust =

Re: Meaning of '+', '*' in disk: hd0+ hd1+* hd2*

The '+' character after the "hd0" indicates that the BIOS has told /boot that this disk can be accessed via LBA. When doing a first-time install, you will sometimes see a '*' after a hard disk -- this indicates a disk that does not seem to have a valid OpenBSD disk label on it.

Re: Meaning of '+', '*' in disk: hd0+ hd1+* hd2*

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Alexander Salmin wrote: > The '+' character after the "hd0" indicates that the BIOS has told /boot > that this disk can be accessed via LBA. When doing a first-time install, you > will sometimes see a '*' after a hard disk -- this indicates a

Re: Meaning of '+', '*' in disk: hd0+ hd1+* hd2*

edward wandasiewicz wrote: > If I have the following showing after a probe during biosboot > > disk: hd0+ hd1+* h2* > > What is the meaning of '+', '+*' and '*' next to each disk? + means big disk support. * means no openbsd disklabel. probably not the openbsd disk.

kernel panic - panic: ehci_device_clear_toggle: queue active

Hello, I repeatedly hit the kernel panic below. Easy to reproduce as it happens over and over again within 60 minutes after rebooting. Root cause is not known. I'm running snapshot on an USB stick. I tried different USB ports with the same result. Next step will be an attempt with a different

Meaning of '+', '*' in disk: hd0+ hd1+* hd2*

If I have the following showing after a probe during biosboot disk: hd0+ hd1+* h2* What is the meaning of '+', '+*' and '*' next to each disk? Edward.

Re: Meaning of '+', '*' in disk: hd0+ hd1+* hd2*

Many thanks. I knew it was man paged / documented somewhere, just couldn't find it. Reason for asking? I have a USB 3.0 device attached to a Chromebook Pixel 2015, and on booting, SeaBIOS is recognising the same single USB drive twice, as hd1+* and hd2*. hd0 is the soldered SSD. ...Looks like

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

I suspect the answer is that this falls into the category of too expensive/distracting to bother, based on the overall benefit. I find that having a DVD reader/writer in an external USB-connected enclosure works well for optical-diskless machines. Devin

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

in my case, a USB stick would be actually useful for installing machines -- unlike the CD sets (I haven't had a working optical drive in the last 5+ years). Any chance for 5.9? I would buy an official release on USB or preferably sd card, if it was on offer. Presumably the production costs

whats wrong

Hi, whats wrong?: httpd: could not parse macro definition SSL httpd[21336]: server_tls_init: failed to configure TLS - failed to read private key: Operation not supported by device Krzysztof Strzeszewski

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

> I would buy an official release on USB or preferably sd card, if it > was on offer. Presumably the production costs would be less as well. ^ How do you figure that? We put everything on the internet. Thousands upon

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

Software development. :D More importantly, what can users do to make it easier for developers to write code? That is the important question to ask when a thought like this comes up. Is it more efficient of developer time for me to purchase my own usb stick and deal with it myself, or request

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

On 2015-11-30, Tati Chevron wrote: >>in my case, a USB stick would be actually useful for installing machines >>-- unlike the CD sets (I haven't had a working optical drive in the last >>5+ years). Any chance for 5.9? > > I would buy an official release on USB or preferably

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

On 11/30/15 8:43 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> On Nov 30, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >>> >>> These days the CD revenue is about what a cashier at a store makes. > > Uncertain of the veracity of this site, > >

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

>> Em 30-11-2015 19:03, Tati Chevron escreveu: >> > Again, the original idea wasn't mine. I commented on the thread, >> but in >> > my mind, I imagined receiving the install source on a medium that >> had the >> > same bar to tampering as a CD, such as masked rom. I wasn't >> thinking of >> > a

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

Let's not waste any more of Theo's time. USB sticks are not the magic device that some seem to think. Some are not very reliable and prone to failure. I've had very mixed results with budget USB sticks in particular. Going with a more expensive USB stick like a major brand name *usually* turns out

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

On 01/12/15 10:40, Petr Ročkai wrote: > Theo de Raadt writes: >> I don't know, but I'll think about it later, because I am busy. >> I am spending my day making a non-writeable USB stick for the OP. > That's nice. Although a simple 'no' would have sufficed of course. I >

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

On Nov 30, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > These days the CD revenue is about what a cashier at a store makes. I'm sick to my stomack when I read this. I won't get into how unjust, unfair, unethical this situation is, we all know that life is unfair. We

Network programs that only report error codes

I realized that this has peeved me since I started Unixing. So, if you know of anything in base that doesn't print network error strings, please share publicly and I'll try to add them.

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 06:20:02PM -0700, Bal??zs Nagy wrote: > On Nov 30, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > > These days the CD revenue is about what a cashier at a store makes. > > I'm sick to my stomack when I read this. I won't get into how unjust, >

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > > These days the CD revenue is about what a cashier at a store makes. Uncertain of the veracity of this site, http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Job=Cashier/Hourly_Rate/725daaa6/Entry-Level-Calgary-AB I was

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

Em 30-11-2015 20:10, Bryan Vyhmeister escreveu: > Let's not waste any more of Theo's time. USB sticks are not the magic > device that some seem to think. Some are not very reliable and prone to > failure. I've had very mixed results with budget USB sticks in > particular. Going with a more

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

> Em 30-11-2015 20:10, Bryan Vyhmeister escreveu: > > Let's not waste any more of Theo's time. USB sticks are not the magic > > device that some seem to think. Some are not very reliable and prone to > > failure. I've had very mixed results with budget USB sticks in > > particular. Going with a

Re: Fwd: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 05:45:25PM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > On 11/30/15 4:58 PM, Joerg Jung wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 04:48:05PM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > >> Even removed the table password? > > > > Yes. > > > >> NO way anymore to have difference password for emails then the

Re: Fwd: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src

On 11/30/15 4:58 PM, Joerg Jung wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 04:48:05PM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote: >> Even removed the table password? > > Yes. > >> NO way anymore to have difference password for emails then the system >> password without smtp-extra install? > > You may want to read

Re: Is it possible to use pledge(2) to make something similar to firejail?

Thanks for answers. @dan mclaughlin. But how to prevent attacker going out of chroot? Do you think that this is possible to prevent this using pledge(2)? Thanks for links. Especially Jonathan's "Re: making firefox less insecure" mail dated 2014-11-23 is worth reading for me. I wonder if

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

Em 30-11-2015 21:56, Theo de Raadt escreveu: > But that model does not help me. Please don't give out the impression > that it does. The dwindling effectiveness of the CD sales support > model is a bit of a worry. Sorry for creating that impression. It surely wasn't my intention. Now you made it

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

> The good news if any, is that Gifts are tax free in Canada, so that part > is helpful and users should fell they get more out of their money freely > given as a gift. > > http://www.taxtips.ca/personaltax/giftsandinheritances.htm Correct, but be careful it will not be interpreted later as a

Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

The reality is obvious - most users of open source are pure unadulterated free loaders.  Nobody pays but we all use it.   That includes very large corporations as well.  Torvalds solved it the old fashioned way;  he is an employee of his own foundation.  McKusick sells training videos.  All I can

Re: whats wrong with me?

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procmap prints ?VNODE?

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Re: athn0: device timeout

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 02:52:15PM +0100, Adam Wolk wrote: > Now to be precise. I can use this dongle quite fine. It sometimes goes > up to 1 hour of usage without any timeouts. When it does timeout it's > usually in rapid succession (like 2-3 times in next 10 minutes). Each > time after a timeout

Re: serious watchdog timeout issues with em driver

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Re: Is OpenBSD dump/restore compatible with Linux?

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Re: athn0: device timeout

I have the same problem with a new macbookpro12,1 my urtwn adapter work just fine in a regular ehci(4) machine, but on xhci(4)'s macbookpro I need to reconnect like 10 times, and even that way, doesn't work. :/ On 28/11, Stefan Sperling wrote: ; On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 07:35:00AM -0700,