WM: I'm not a member of any cult but the Irish Catholic Church which
still claims me, astonishingly enough, but I did hit the reply
button.
Thanks Wizard, I'm a member of what's been termed a cult too- the DFL.
This whole screed was uncalled for. Mr. Samuels won because Mr.
Moore did not
A new breeze at City Hall
Don Samuels' astounding 53 percent victory
for the Minneapolis Third Ward City Council
seat on Monday was genuine grass-roots
democracy at work -- a marvelous man of the
people with a vision they really believed
in, brilliant planning and organization,
and the
Ann McCandless in her post comments "I do not remember where it is said that only the largest municipalities are responsible for taking on the care and feeding of all the needy masses. "
A point that takes me back to my original question about whom is Mike Opat incuding when he speaks of "no
Blaming someone for other's behavior, using words like "cult" and "carpetbagger". Are we a little angry? She's right y'all. Not only was Don lucky, so were the voters.
Maybe this is what you would have gotten if the other candidate won.
J. Kurtis Ballantine, Uptown
dyna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All:
Since Prospect Park's thenupcoming meeting to reallocate NRP funds has
been mentioned here several times, I thought that I should report to this
community on what happened now that it is over.
Approximately 250 people met Tuesday evening at St. Frances Cabrini Church.
The meeting lasted
Minneapolis Officer Charged with Assault
A Minneapolis police officer faces assault
and other charges for allegedly holding a
gun to man's head on a downtown Minneapolis
street.
The case made headlines in early December
when five-year-veteran Matt Olson, who was
off duty at the time, got
In a message dated 2/5/2003 5:31:50 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaming someone for other's behavior, using words like cult and
carpetbagger. Are we a little angry? She's right y'all. Not only was Don
lucky, so were the voters.
Sour Grapes DFL style. Get use to
Linda Mann writes, of Dyna's post:
Sour Grapes DFL style. Get use to it (the Green Party sure is).
Linda, with all due respect, this sentiment is ONE DFLer's. Vanessa Freeman,
another DFLer who staunchly supported Olin Moore, sent a respectful, if
wary, note to the list after Don Samuels'
Whenever I read or hear about a questionable incident involving the
Minneapolis Police I wonder what kind of a deal R.T. Rybak cut with the
Minneapolis Police Federation in order to secure their endorsement.
Despite voting for Lisa McDonald in the primary I donated $50.00 to
R.T.'s campaign,
Steve Cross wrote:
***But, the very existence of the 52.5% goal obviously means that 47.5% are
going to go to programs OTHER than the housing that is specifically
mentioned in the NRP law. Furthermore, that same NRP statute (469.1831,
Subd. 2) says that the program includes programs to preserve
Complex thing the Mayoralty is, there always will be stuff that
people both like and dislike.
In the budget process, there is a limit to funds available. What
can the city do, plant money trees? They actually do that with such as the
convention center, farmers market and
Somebody online mentioned awhile back that the City of
Minneapolis doesn't have a grantwriter, and how
appalling this is. {I agree--it is.} With Olin Moore's
knowledge of the federal government, this sounds like
a position where he'd shine. I'm not sure how this
would stack up to his current
In the initial days of Phase I, there were allocations
taken off the top of NRP funds that went to the
Mpls. Public Schools and Hennepin County.
We have come to call those funds the 7 1/2% pools.
Both the MPS and Hennepin County have processes for
neighborhoods to access these funds.
Hennepin
(James Jacobsen)
Complex thing the Mayoralty is, there always will be stuff that
people both like and dislike. In the budget process, there is a limit to
funds available. What can the city do, plant money trees? They actually do
that with such as the convention center, farmers market and
You know what? The election is over, it's done, it will not be run again until 2005. Get used to it. Mr. Samuels, whether you supported him or not, is still your Council Member. He is stepping into a situation most of us cannot understand and would rather not do. It is difficult enough being a new
I forgot to mention in my earlier post regarding this topic-- children are welcom at this gathering! The event will be friendly to folks of all ages. We will have good food, a crackling fire in the fireplace, the "Bike Like You Mean It! video for those who'd like to see it, and time and room for
My dear embittered Dyna:
Speaking of Grandfathers, I had two fo them. They were both fond of
dichossayings. One that comes to mind is: A mouth full of venom
poisons even the snake.
Not that you should get over it,...but another dicho from those wise men in
my past; to resent the meal becasue
List, one last thing on the Samuels party win. I have been very public about
my support for Olin Moore, also my public views on the Samuels campaign. The
below is the following I sent to Don after his win. After giving it a lot of
thought, I felt it best to be public in my Congratulations to
Hello Minneapolis Folks:
Congratulations to Don Samuels and the amazing group
of volunteers that helped him win this election. I
encouraged Don. I also told him I would be staying out
of the race if Olin Moore made it through the primary.
I know this does not sound like political courage but
I
Don't forget the favorites of lrt pushers: dry cleaners, florists, and book
stores. You must have those, along with coffee shops at all train stops.
Bruce Gaarder
Citizens for Effective Transit in the Twin Cities
www.effectivetransit.org
Highland Park Saint Paul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anne
DFL'ers come in many varieties. Personally, I'd say that Don Samuels' popularity and win over Olin Moore has something to do with voters expressing their preference for a "real world" guy. I think Moore's association with Sabo put him, at least in the minds of many would-be constituents, in the
Dyna Sluyter begins:
Congratulations Don, you got lucky in last nights
electoral
lottery. In the lowest turnout for a 3rd ward final
round in memory
you managed a 140 vote victory. In fact, if I
remember correctly
the loser of the last election got more votes than you
did, and last
nights
Visit the Citizens for Effective Transit in the Twin CIties web site at
www.effectivetransit.org
for lots of transit information, with a growing focus on our area. It's
citizens at work, with no grants to support it, so additions to the site
don't happen every day. Visit every week...
Anne
In a message dated 2/5/03 5:15:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Whenever I read or hear about a questionable incident involving the
Minneapolis Police I wonder what kind of a deal R.T. Rybak cut with the
Minneapolis Police Federation in order to secure their
Unfortunately, the post that you refer to is from someone who has had experience
working with the grants staff at the city. However, perhaps we do not row enough in
the same direction to his liking. The city does have a central grants office and
expert staff in various departments who are quite
I second the views of David Brauer and Karen Collier.
Dyna Sluyter wrote, About now one of your cult will hit the reply
button . . . . Well, I was playing on the other team, working for Olin
Moore. When the question was which candidate I preferred, I proudly said
Olin Moore, and I
MINNEAPOLIS: Samuels ready to do his ministering on City Council
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/5106636.htm
Less than 24 hours after scoring an upset victory in the Minneapolis City
Council special election, Don Samuels on Tuesday was up a ladder in
single-digit
My suggestion to Dyna is to think back when you were telling us of the great
property you could buy elsewhere, and go purchase it. If you are not going
to be part of the solution in the third ward, you are part of the problem.
And, had Olin Moore won, I wonder what he would be in store for if he
One of the primary concerns of educators teaching the history of the
Holocaust is how to present horrific images in a sensitive and appropriate
manner. Graphic material should be used judiciously and only to the extent
necessary to achieve the objective of the lesson ...The assumption that all
And I thought that Duluth {50 miles away} was the only
place that's still squirrelly about the lynchings.
Even though they are starting to address it with
marches for unity, albeit sparsely attended ones.
What is Opat's reasoning against the image? It makes
him uncomfortable? The fear it will
Susan Maricle wrote:
And I thought that Duluth {50 miles away} was the only
place that's still squirrelly about the lynchings
What is Opat's reasoning against the image? It makes
him uncomfortable? The fear it will bring upon
depression, or insurrection, among Twin Cities African
Whatever Opat's reasoning is - and I don't think it really matters in
the larger scheme - the underlying truth is an unwillingness to face up
to modern horrors that the people of our state, our grandfathers and
grandmothers, perpetuated on others. This is why Germany has turned
Auschwitz into
I apologize for tarring all DFLers with the same brush. For sour grapes one
can hardly beat the Republicans and their 8 year war against Clinton for
having won 2 elections (hell, their 10 year war - it's still going on!).
Linda Mann
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The Governor and State Finance Commissioner talked today about what
they would need to do in the way of unallotment if the Legislature
doesn't act on the budget deficit by tomorrow. Not paying some of the
compensatory aid to school districts is on the list.
From an online Strib
Maybe threatening compensatory aid cuts is a strategy to get DFL serious
about participating in these wider budget cuts. Could it be they (DFL) are
stone walling for political purposes, figuring the Gov will just do the job
and take the heat? Lets see some good faith participation in rectifying
Bruce Gaarder is right on in saying:
---
If you will ride a train but not a well-run,
well-maintained bus, that's your individual preference and problem, not a
problem the taxpayer needs to worry about.
One of the very vocal supporters of lrt in Houston has written
I have previously argued that Prospect Park's current
reallocation of funds from housing to educational and
social programs violates both the spirit and the intent
of state law. Mr. Luce has provided a clear and strong
rebuttal to PPERRIA's ex-president's contention that such
allocations are
Truth be said Dave Jennings and all other top payed
employees will still keep their jobs I'd bet.
--- Michael Hohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe threatening compensatory aid cuts is a
strategy to get DFL serious
about participating in these wider budget cuts.
Could it be they (DFL) are
Michael writes:
Take for instance the current Prospect Park Reallocation.
A number of groups with specific interests sought funds and
by lobbying people of like minds to attend the meeting
they were able to dominate which proposals were considered
and which were not. This is in contrast to
Welcoming words I wrote for our Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Birthday
Celebration banquet at Charles Horn Terrace:
Dr. Kings birthday is an opportunity for reflection on many fronts:
respect and gratitude for his vision, grief for the nature of his
passing, renewed conviction to carry his message
It seems that many of us equate homelessness with lack of housing. This
had merit when housing was tight in 2001, but on 8-Jan-03 the Star Tribune
reported that vacancy rates have increased to 6.6% in the metro area. The
article said Leasing agents say this is the worst market they've seen in
Given the volume of posts on this list, I apologize for posting twice
today but some things are just to rich to pass up/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Atherton
But it is not the legal technicalities that cause me
concern here, it is fundamental issues of ethics, fairness,
and
In a message dated 2/5/03 5:02:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
A number of groups with specific interests sought funds and
by lobbying people of like minds to attend the meeting
they were able to dominate which proposals were considered
and which were not.
Keith
Mike-
You said:
The fact that the NRP pits neighbor against neighbor
and brings manipulative politics out of city hall and
into our communities is one of the factors that
contributes to making the NRP a very bad thing.
I say:
I didn't see any neighbors pitted against any
neighbors at the
In a message dated 2/5/2003 10:45:44 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
will seek to understand human behavior after being exposed to
horrible images is fallacious. Some students may be so appalled by images of
brutality and mass murder that they are discouraged from studying
Here is Doug Grow's reporting and commentary of Mike Opat's censorship of
the Black History exhibit in the Hennepin County Government Center
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3636343.html
I have one question that I cannot resist asking: How did we get a
narrow-minded jailer in the most
In disagreeing with Michael Atherton's point that NRP bypasses our
elected representatives and lets selfish-interested citizens play jump
ball with our tax dollars, David Brauer states:
If I had to choose between special interests lobbying the
Jordan Kushner wrote:
I have one question that I cannot resist asking: How did we get a
narrow-minded jailer in the most powerful political position in Hennepin
County?
I have one question for Mr. Kushner: If it is indeed true
that this exhibit was visible to jurors and you were a defense
I think you have listed many of the right reasons..
I think the primary reason is the affordability issue; not discrimination,
not bad-records etc etc.
However, this is not to say that the city should start tackling the issue
with municipal dollars.
The market will adjust.
How do I (for whatever
David Brauer wrote:
If I had to choose between special interests lobbying the
legislature and neighbors organizing to influence how NRP
money is spent, I'll take the neighbors every time.
I generally expect that lobbyists at the legislature will
skirt ethical boundaries, I don't need to
After I saw on the news the warning about a door-to-door scam being perpetuated in South Minneapolis neighborhoods, an unpleasant encounter I had with a very well-dressed man in downtown today makes more sense--and makes me suspect that this scam is moving downtown.
There I was outside of
Wow, you said a lot here Alan. I can respond to a few
things. Last nights meeting was primarily parents with
children. There was child care. And there were many
low income people of color in attendance.
Many of the neighborhoods I work in have parents with
children involved. Hence rose all the
I like Wizard Marks statement on the lynching picture. It is our ability to be
BOTHERED that proves that we still have our humanity. I guess Mr. Opat wasnt deep
enough to realize what his being bothered meant. As we speak, they are considering
how to commemorate the dead at the World Trade
I may agree with Michael Atherton's premise that NRP should be mainly spent
on Housing and Neighborhood Revitalization. I even find myself, (biting my
tongue), agreeing with Greg Luce on the matter of the purpose of NRP being
housing. (I will seek counseling tomorrow). That being said I find
Since one contribute (Hohman) says that we need compromise on both sides
to avoid the serious cuts to Mpls school aids in the state budget
deliberations, I would like to remind list readers of one of the real
ununderstandables of the situation. Pawlenty and the House Republicans
have drawn a line
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Melendez, Brian wrote:
the DFL Party (over the scheduling of the endorsing convention).
I respectfully suggest that Dyna's style is more Dyna style than it is
DFL style.
Dynasty?
--David Shove
Roseville
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Barb Lickness wrote:
Greg Luce, another NRP critic organized a citywide
renters assembly which I attended. From the crowd I
counted, only about 20-25 people showed up from the
entire city. The rest of the attendees were from
agencies claiming to represent or provide services to
renters.
To anyone who doesn't think that War with Iraq (60 billion or 1.6
trillion $$) or the Presidents budget is a local issue, you might want
to look at these numbers from a recent NYTimes column..(sorry , I copied
the section without remembering which columnist.)
What is happening is an
Regarding potential loss of compensatory aid in unallotment, Rep. Kahn
states:
Pawlenty and the House Republicans
have drawn a line saying they must have a greater financial cushion and
must have structural cuts into the 2004-2005 biennium or the Guv will go
ahead and cut on his own. It
thanks Pamela...
My suggestion to Dyna is to think back when you were telling us of the great
property you could buy elsewhere, and go purchase it. If you are not going
to be part of the solution in the third ward, you are part of the problem.
Sadly, a lot of Northsiders are doing precisely
Tamir Nolley opined:
TN:
And so it begins. We're not going to give him a
chance and see how he does becuase he didn't use a
union printer, the same thing you said to smear Shane
Price in 2001 when you supported Joe Biernat. I
agree that the low voter turnout is pathetic, but
Don's voters
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