Re: [neonixie-l] eBay Paranoia

2022-03-31 Thread threeneurons
eBay has been doing this now, for about a year and a half. I've had no problems, so far. Initially, I didn't understand why they did this, only a few years after selling off Paypal. So It seemed kinda stupid. But I think it has to do with some legal changes both in the US and in Europe. In the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Dekatron Analog Meter with Analog Parts

2021-08-11 Thread threeneurons
Monday, 9 August 2021 at 23:36:26 UTC+2 Terry Bowman wrote: > >> >> On Aug 9, 2021, at 3:44 PM, threeneurons wrote: >> >> Idler circuit added. >> >> >> Great stuff, Mike. Keep it up. >> >> >> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH >>

[neonixie-l] Re: Z502S Decatron

2021-08-05 Thread threeneurons
The Z502S is the same as the Sylvania 6476 & Ericsson GC10C. There are all kinds of circuits that can use it. Here's my dekatron page: https://threeneurons.wordpress.com/dekatron-stuff/ I just finished a analog meter circuit for dekatrons, that does not require a microcontroller. Its crude,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: ZM1032 - Dual Anode

2020-09-24 Thread threeneurons
I used ZM1032 nixies on my 1st nixie clock, and it was multiplexed. Bi-quinary tubes actually complicate multiplexing. If you have a 4 digit clock, and use standard nixies, with 4 x 1 muxing, you'll have 4 anode drivers, and 10 cathode drivers. With bi-quinary, there will be 8 anode drivers,

[neonixie-l] Simple A108 Spinner

2020-07-16 Thread threeneurons
About 7 years ago, A108 mini dekatrons started to show up in the West. They're odd little tubes, with no differentiated guide and output pins. They're uni-directional, due to their rod shapes, and all cathodes work both as drive inputs, and outputs. We made a bunch of test circuits for them,

[neonixie-l] Re: VFD filament resistance when hot/cold?

2020-07-16 Thread threeneurons
VFDs, since you don't want the filament to visibly glow, vary less than other tubes. 2.5:1 that you're getting is rather mild. On typical "radio" tubes, I get 6:1 routinely. And that's on small signal tubes, such as 12AX7s. There, a filament that's ~85 ohms hot, will measure ~15 ohms, cold, on

[neonixie-l] Re: Prebuilt PSU boards - recommendations?

2019-11-07 Thread threeneurons
Speaking of power supplies, I've been running a few experiments using HVAC 24VAC transformers. I choice this type of device, since almost all Radio Shack stores have closed, since 2015. I still have one near me, in Tehachapi, CA (a franchise). Also, in recent months, the Fry's chain is clearly

[neonixie-l] Re: Foriegn Address Formats & Meanings

2019-10-23 Thread threeneurons
I got lucky. The buyer understands English quite well. He responded promptly. The reason why his address seemed so strange, is that its a little village, that has no street names. So each house has its own house number, but no street name, since there ain't any. -- You received this message

[neonixie-l] Foriegn Address Formats & Meanings

2019-10-18 Thread threeneurons
Is there a comprehensive web site explaining the formats and abbreviations used in addresses across the world ? I have a parcel, pending shipment, to Romania, but the street portion of the address seems incomplete. It may be a PO box, but I have found nothing confirming that by way of a Google

[neonixie-l] Re: Clocks! Picture sharing....

2019-07-24 Thread threeneurons
Here are mine: https://threeneurons.wordpress.com/nixie-power-supply/my-nixie-clocks/ All built between 2003 & 2017. On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 11:26:51 AM UTC-7, Pramanicin wrote: > > We’re all into nixie clocks right? Stupid question > > How about all the lurkers out there share some

[neonixie-l] Re: Single inductor supplies and heat issues

2018-11-15 Thread threeneurons
Yes, I like using the old MC34063. Its a relatively simple chip. But don't get stuck on the semiconductors. The coil is the main player. And real inductors behave a lot differently than ideal inductors. More so than capacitors and resistors, when comparing the ideal model with the real parts.

[neonixie-l] Re: IN-4 eagle template

2018-11-12 Thread threeneurons
The IN-4 & IN-18 can be used in the same socket. Physical pin spacing is the same (14-pins, on a 18mm diameter pin circle, 24.5 degrees apart). Pin-out assignments is different, between the two. Pin # IN-4 IN-18 . 1 . . . K4 . . N/C . 2 . . . K6 . . K4 . 3 . . . K8 . . K5 . 4 .

[neonixie-l] Re: IN-9 problem

2018-11-12 Thread threeneurons
Full "deflection" happens with 12mA, and the tube gets a little non-linear past 8mA. Monitor the current thru the tube, and the voltage across the tube, at the same time. Make sure your supply is up to the task before finding fault in the tube.

[neonixie-l] Re: Single inductor supplies and heat issues

2018-11-12 Thread threeneurons
I think your doing something wrong. I use the RLB9012-101KL routinely, and get twice the output current (~35mA @ 180V), while the coil gets warm, but still within reason. I'd suggest that you increase your switching frequency. I suspect you're well into saturation. On Tuesday, November 6, 2018

[neonixie-l] Re: Panaplex gas pump still pumping

2018-11-05 Thread threeneurons
Last time I drove through Page, AZ, a panaplex display was the new technology ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[neonixie-l] Re: Adding audio clips to a clock...

2018-09-29 Thread threeneurons
I didn't think these chips were still made ! I used one back in the early 90's, so details are a bit fuzzy. Digikey carries them, and they they don't cost much. Even in ones-n-two-zees: ISD Chips

[neonixie-l] Re: For you display nuts out there.....

2018-09-12 Thread threeneurons
I guess you can use them to recreate the clock Jim Forbes made some time ago: http://www.selectric.org/tubeclock/ On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 1:39:59 PM UTC-7, Pramanicin wrote: > > Not my auction etc etc...thought it may interest one or two of you out > there.. > > >

[neonixie-l] Re: My B-6091 Nixie clock

2018-08-30 Thread threeneurons
Nice job. A few years ago I made my own 6 digit nixie clock with B6091s > > Good tubes, when you can find em ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe

[neonixie-l] Re: GI-10 Inditrons

2018-08-30 Thread threeneurons
Tie all the cathodes to B+, thru 10 individual resistors. 10x 100K, is a good start. To select a cathode, ground that particular lead. The other cathodes will provide the anode current. 100K / 9 = ~11K. For testing that's fine. Maybe a little too hot for continuous operation. I think 1mA is a

[neonixie-l] Re: Dekatron DoHickie #1 glow gets "stuck"

2018-08-24 Thread threeneurons
nedy wrote: > > > > On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 12:46:21 AM UTC-4, threeneurons wrote: >> >> On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 12:37:16 AM UTC-7, Terry Kennedy wrote: >>> >>> I have Dekatron DoHickie #1 (January 2007) from Michael Moorrees >>> (

[neonixie-l] Re: Dekatron DoHickie #1 glow gets "stuck"

2018-08-21 Thread threeneurons
Steel wool is fine, just for the tube, after its removed from the socket. Make sure to use it away from the circuit, in another room. Wipe the pins and base clean with an alcohol moistened rag afterwards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[neonixie-l] Re: RoHS Certification of Nixie Tubes

2018-08-10 Thread threeneurons
You can probably order RoHS certified stickers from a Chinese vendor. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[neonixie-l] Re: Interesting indicator on Ebay

2018-08-09 Thread threeneurons
On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 10:28:54 AM UTC-7, Dekatron42 wrote: > > It's more like a linear Polyatron (although not far from a linear > dekatron),... straighten them out like a Burroughs Bargraph display like > the BG12205. > > > /Martin > Damn weirdest things coming out of Russia !

[neonixie-l] Re: Anita Mk9 restoration

2018-06-21 Thread threeneurons
On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 1:32:06 AM UTC-7, Roland wrote: > > > Would you think the GS10C can run on a high current like 1.2mA too? > For short durations, an hour or less, every once in a while, I think 1.2mA will do little harm. I've run orange neon dekatrons, designed for 350uA, at 1mA,

[neonixie-l] Re: Divergent Nixie clock designs

2018-06-05 Thread threeneurons
On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 6:14:58 AM UTC-7, GastonP wrote: > > Nice design, Mike >What was the function of the microphone in the lower part of the > shcematic? It goes to the connector and to a pin called X+ but I couldn't > find what's after that. > Gastón > There's a ring of LEDs around

[neonixie-l] Re: Divergent Nixie clock designs

2018-06-05 Thread threeneurons
On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 10:38:35 PM UTC-7, gregebert wrote: > > Long live PALASM ! I used CUPL a few times in the late 1980's. > > Were you able to program your device at home ? Most of the tools back then > were not free, and out-of-reach for hobbyists. > I remember sneaking into the lab

[neonixie-l] Re: Divergent Nixie clock designs

2018-06-04 Thread threeneurons
I've made a clock using a CPLD, the little brother of the FPGA: https://threeneurons.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/mach210_clk.pdf AMD MACH210. It was made quite a while ago. I guess MACH210 chips are vintage now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[neonixie-l] Re: Anita Mk9 restoration

2018-06-04 Thread threeneurons
Great find ! Working high speed Ericsson dekatrons are next to impossible to find. The GS10D has the same pinout as the slower GS10C, and 6476/6476A. Also the GS10C is designed to operate at lower currents, but it may work, if you can reduce the clock rate. For short term operation, running

[neonixie-l] Re: Ever seen this?

2018-05-10 Thread threeneurons
1DP1 1 inch CRT. Its a ONE, not an "I" (eye) as the first character. Standard CRT numbering system, where the first numeral, is the rough diameter, in inches, the 3rd character, is always a "P", and the number after the "P", is the phosphor type. P1 is green. P4 would be white. I have a 1CP1,

[neonixie-l] Re: 4 digit nimo clock so far

2018-04-25 Thread threeneurons
That Nimo document, I actually spliced together into a PDF, from separate JPG pages on David Forbe's page: http://www.cathodecorner.com/nixiedata/ I updated IEE contact information, and put David's & my "thumbprints", on it, so you can see how it bounced thru the internet. The only Nimo's I've

[neonixie-l] Re: 4 digit nimo clock so far

2018-04-24 Thread threeneurons
On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 10:34:29 AM UTC-7, gregebert wrote: > ... I'm unsure about the orientation of the display vs the tube pins. > > Go to page 4 of the following document: https://threeneurons.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/iee_nimo808.pdf

[neonixie-l] Re: My little IN-13 Spectrum Analyser

2018-02-27 Thread threeneurons
That's a beaut ! I have a current obsession with color organs. Going to make a couple with thyratrons. That plus neon, and my eyes definitely lit up ! IN-13's use 4.5mA max. x18 channels its 81mA, so its not really that bad. What order filters ? Or trick it a little by upping the Q ? -- You

[neonixie-l] Holy (Neon) H !

2018-02-02 Thread threeneurons
My nephew dumped an "H" sign character off at the shop. I just saw it there one day. I asked him about it, and he said, it was gift for a friend ... after it was converted to LEDs. He asked if I could do it, and also make it respond to sound. I said, sure, and that I actual make a kit, to do

[neonixie-l] Re: MCU religious wars (OT?)

2018-01-25 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I like Arduinos, and I also still program AVRs in assembly. I see Arduinos as nice trainers, and also a way to make a quick-n-dirty "smart" project. Love the libraries ! I have a hierarchy of pain, when it comes to deciding to do a task in assembly, or use a high level language, like C. Based

[neonixie-l] Re: Pixie thermometer question

2018-01-25 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I'd get rid of the 1Ks, and go directly. They are powered, from the same 5V supply ? Unterminated TTL inputs float to ~1.6V, look like an "iffy" logic-1. To drag them down to solid logic-0 (0.8V min) requires a "sink" current of 1.6mA for old standard TTL. A 1K is too big. Unused TTL inputs

[neonixie-l] OT: All Tube Color Organ

2018-01-22 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Not just being enamored with nixies, and dekatrons, but tubes in general. At least they're gas filled thyratrons. Not a display tube, but they can control some pretty bright light emitters (light bulbs), in the form of a color organ. Of course, I'm not the first to do this. There's a project

[neonixie-l] Re: One Tube Nimo Clock

2018-01-03 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 7:01:23 AM UTC-8, Nick wrote: > > Interesting! I have a bunch of IEE 6000-31-s that need a use, as well > as some XM1000s and BA -P31s. Big problem s the holders... > > These are all P31 phosphors - green or yellow-green see >

[neonixie-l] Re: One Tube Nimo Clock

2018-01-03 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 5:45:22 AM UTC-8, Paul Andrews wrote: > > That dock is calling to me. > In my infinite laziness, delaying finishing it, that dock spent a year looking like:

[neonixie-l] Re: OT: Vacuum Tube Projects?

2017-12-30 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
> * by useful i mean something you could use for a purpose and not just a > construction to decorate a shelf. > You mean functioning ? I have a tube project, in the queue, that's visual, so its decorative, yet the tubes are functioning as designed. Its a tube color organ. I've been

[neonixie-l] Re: One Tube Nimo Clock

2017-12-30 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 3:45:19 AM UTC-8, Dekatron42 wrote: > > > Will this circuit work just as well with the Telefunken XM1000? > > /Martin > Mostly, yes, with minor adjustments. Those being different basing and pinout. 1.5V, 120mA (XM1000) heater versus 1.1V, 200mA (Nimo) heater.

[neonixie-l] One Tube Nimo Clock

2017-12-26 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
A couple of months ago, Westdave & I ran across this youtube video: https://youtu.be/xmWg7CtN0Ac Dave had a small stash of Nimo tubes, and had given me one, a couple of years earlier. That video, started us thinking about doing something with those tubes. In the meantime, A.J. Franzman showed

[neonixie-l] Re: other uses for nixies

2017-12-22 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 3:09:33 PM UTC-8, Allen Dutra wrote: > > Go all the way and do an neon oscilloscope Greg. We believe in you! :) > > One of the early "Grid" computer models, had a dot matrix neon display. So if you find one of those, you can make a digital o-scope ! -- You

[neonixie-l] Re: all my Nixie tubes are dying :(

2017-10-07 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
> > What kind of sockets are used ? I don't like using those socket pins that soldered directly into the PCB, with glass based tubes. Okay for older style octal based tubes. I like the pins to float. Especially for pricier tubes, like IN-18s. Could be losing gas. -- You received this

[neonixie-l] Couple More Arduino Dekatron Sketches

2017-09-09 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I added 3 more sketches. Two use an analog input, and turns the dekatron into a gauge/meter/magic eye. The other is a modification of Paul Andrew's clock. It's stand alone, with the hours and minutes adjustable thru two push button switches. Also different, from his, is that the dekatron only

[neonixie-l] Re: Weird spot on XN-11 Anode

2017-07-02 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Very likely, the infamous "blue dot". The unused cathodes are clamped to 62V. I believe those unused cathodes, at that potential work somewhat like the beam plates, in beam power tubes, like the 6L6. The blue, at or near an anode, seems dependent on current density. The greater it is the more

[neonixie-l] Re: tubes/valves and Global Shipping

2017-06-23 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
eBay's Global Shipping Program is a big stinking turd. I never use it, and never will ! Be glad they won't ship tubes. Their employees, besides being under educated, are probably poorly trained, if at all. I wouldn't trust them to properly pack 1/2" steel plate. They'll manage to break it.

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Plug: Arduino Shield for a Dekatron

2017-06-01 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Just occurred to me, that hours may be a bit weird. A dekatron having 30 rods, works well for seconds and minutes. For those hands, just advance their locations, once every 2 seconds, or minutes, respective of which hand, it represents. Hours is a bit odd. That's why on my original one

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Plug: Arduino Shield for a Dekatron

2017-06-01 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Wow ! That's just way too cool ! On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 9:53:22 PM UTC-7, Paul Andrews wrote: > > : https://youtu.be/LNCbABuIcr0 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B5750 Nixie tubes for sale in a week or two...

2017-05-21 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
If you believe the datasheets, the 5750 glass tube is ~0.15" (~4mm) taller. If it wasn't for an existing watch, they are "almost" the same tube. But since it is being crammed into a tiny space, that 0.15" will probably make a big difference.

[neonixie-l] Re: eBay GSP disposes of CRT for no reason

2017-05-15 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I thought eBay's Global Shipping Program (GSP) was a bad idea, from the get-go ! Just another reason not to use it. When they introduced it, they automatically enabled it, in your settings. You had to go into your account settings, and turn it off. In general, its a rip-off ! Just another eBay

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Plug: Arduino Shield for a Dekatron

2017-05-15 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Just relisted some more kits. Will be kitting more, so the available count may bump up occasionally, or it will be relisted again. In short, I have more. > > Dekatron Shield Kit > > > Video > --

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Plug: Arduino Shield for a Dekatron

2017-05-11 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I've got plenty of boards, and most of the parts. Looked in my 1uf 250V bin, which usually has plenty of parts, and its damn near empty. Have them on order, from two places (can never have enough), and will kit, and list them, when ready. Hopefully, early next week. I've got plenty of project

[neonixie-l] Shameless Plug: Arduino Shield for a Dekatron

2017-05-10 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
If you're familiar with the Arduino, here's a shield that will plug into an Arduino Uno, so that sketches can control the dekatron. It also has an A101 socket built in. I have three sample sketches available, and more to come. No charge on the sketches. Dekatron Shield Kit

[neonixie-l] Re: Spotted on Ebay: B6091/NL8423 nixies (larger 20mm/0.8 inch). Manufactured 1985

2017-05-05 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I used 6091s on my wall clock, a couple of years back: https://threeneurons.wordpress.com/nixie-power-supply/my-nixie-clocks/ Nice tubes. They're holding up well, though its only been a couple of years. They were

[neonixie-l] Re: Taylor Edge Nixie Clock Kit

2017-03-31 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 4:42:53 AM UTC-7, Chuck wrote: > > 360 ohms is way too little resistance for *any* sort of > TTL pullup resistor! That apparently got confused with > the standard *pull down* resistor used to keep an unattended > TTL input *low*. 360 ohms for a TTL pulldown is

[neonixie-l] Re: Taylor Edge Nixie Clock Kit

2017-03-30 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I'm a little late to the party, and the discussion between old 74xx versus 74LSxx caught my attention. In most cases, I'd favor the newer 74LS over the original 74xx. But the resistor values (360 ohm) paint you into using the older series, because 5V / 360ohms gives you 13.9mA. The value

[neonixie-l] Re: Inductor specs in threeneuron's HV PSU

2017-03-22 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Yep, when I saw the stock situation, I order some 82uH parts, and tested them, in excess of the recommended load. Worked great. I had already tested the RLB9014-101, way back when, but routinely ordered the RLB9012 part due to the extra safety margin. On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 2:24:48

[neonixie-l] Re: Inductor specs in threeneuron's HV PSU

2017-03-22 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
The coil issued with the kit is a Bourns RLB9012-101. All major distributors (Mouser, Digikey, ...) are currently out of stock, and back ordered to May. That coil is a tad overkill for what the supply is rated to output. The RLB0914-101 will also work to more than the posted maximum specs. So

[neonixie-l] Re: question about threeneurons clock kit

2017-03-22 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Only list the ones that ready to go out the door. I have parts & boards for a lot more. On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 3:51:48 AM UTC-7, Tomas Begley wrote: > > > > On Monday, 20 March 2017 10:26:55 UTC, Tomas Begley wrote: >> >> @threenurons I noticed that you sold out of the full kit options,

[neonixie-l] Re: Radioactive Nixies - Study

2017-03-15 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
A krytron. A gas filled cold cathode trigger tube, containing radioactive material used to detonate a nuke. A few years back, Westdave had just visited his cardiologist, the day before the TRW swapmeet. He had an exam, that

[neonixie-l] Re: question about threeneurons clock kit

2017-03-13 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
mas Begley wrote: > > Hi I am new here but have been a fan of nixies for a while now and as such > I have been trawling the net looking for a decent clock > kit. threeneurons one seems to fit the bill but on his site, I haven't seen > mention of cathode poisoning prevention I

[neonixie-l] Re: Wanted: best few photos of Nixies in military equipment

2017-02-21 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I'd like to see some, too. Back in the mid to late 80's, the US military put out a joint recruitment commercial on TV. It was highlighting the high tech equipment, all the branches used, implying that the recruits will get career building tech skills. One of the shots was a piece of gear,

[neonixie-l] Re: In18 displaying cathode poisoning after 1000hrs or less.

2017-02-19 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I took a look at the schematic, and anode resistors (R2-R7, direct drive) are 10K. The voltage drop across each of these resistors should be at least 40V, for 4mA MINIMUM anode current. Put a meter across the anode resistor of an offending tube, and report back the voltage. -- You received

[neonixie-l] Re: A tube for less than $5

2017-02-17 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
1000 pieces is too rich for me. Maybe we can pool our resources. Now all we need is a time machine ... In Fall of of 1966, when this ad was published, I went with my father to the local VW dealer to pick up his new '67 Beetle. I was only 8 at the time. I think he paid ~$1700 for that car. --

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Raytheon nixie glow

2017-02-08 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
> > Raytheon had a lot of military contracts as far as I know. > That right there would make sense for their superior reliability. > > Chuck > > Raytheon, today, is nothing but a large defense contractor. All this coming up from their humble beginnings with products like this B-H tube:

[neonixie-l] Re: What voltage/current to run tubes at

2017-02-08 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:50:59 AM UTC-8, kitehman wrote: > > > so i should shoot for just under the 2.5ma current rating and go for > lowest striking voltage? higher voltage for a brighter display? > Yes, I would aim at 2.5mA. Exact value +/- not critical. You will find, that once

[neonixie-l] Re: What voltage/current to run tubes at

2017-02-07 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
See what voltage you need for the tube to strike in a dark room. If you run the tubes at too low current, you risk cathode poisoning. It won't appear immediately, but takes time. Weeks or months. What you'll eventually see is only partial illumination of the digits. Positive neon ions hit the

[neonixie-l] Re: Another day, another clock

2017-02-07 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:50:25 PM UTC-8, Ben W wrote: > > Let me ask you something, do you notice flickering on your dekatron? > It looks like you are using the "pie" type animation, I'm using your kit > for another clock and opted for the "processing" type because the >

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Another day, another clock

2017-02-07 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 2:33:05 PM UTC-8, Pramanicin wrote: > > Bravo! I like the wood/gold effect...the use of the orange LED is an > interesting one...didn't want to keep the neon theme there? > I wanted to use the light pipe, and neons, even the brightest ones, really aren't bright

[neonixie-l] Re: Mounting IN-18 tubes

2017-02-07 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
> > Does anyone have any suggestions about how to mount IN-18 tubes? > I was worried about that, too, when I made my latest clock The socket scheme for the IN-18s is covered at my Improvised Socket

[neonixie-l] Re: Another day, another clock

2017-02-06 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
My latest clock: I decided to stick it in this thread, as opposed to creating a new one, because of some of the similarities between this clock, and the one initiating this thread, Both use smaller nixies for the

[neonixie-l] Re: How ICs are made - the inside track...

2017-01-23 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
In 1985, shortly after, I got out of school, they just broke the 1 micron barrier. I think wafers were ~5" (~130mm). >From the few people I've known, that were in the semi business, they change "mask sets" for parts routinely, for an existing part. This is due to keeping up to the current

[neonixie-l] Re: IN-13 Lifespan

2017-01-23 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
A couple of data points, but by no means statistically significant. I've had an IN-13 running in my nixie thermometer (pre-kit) for close to 2 years, now, 24/7, and it runs and looks like new. One of my TRW buddies has a simple "winker", that uses the IN-13. It still glows and winks, but its

[neonixie-l] Re: Crossfade

2017-01-21 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Friday, January 20, 2017 at 12:45:09 PM UTC-8, Soren Kuula wrote: > > Hi - I am a complete newbie to nixies. > I have seen some vids of a nice cross fade in tubes, where the next digit > lights up as the previous one fades out. > > > Crossfading was covered a couple of months ago:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: FS: Shameless Plug - NEW Nixie Thermometer Kit

2016-12-03 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:57:28 PM UTC-8, OrangeGlow wrote: > > Just wanted to say how much I like the kit. It works well - I just made > it as in the original instructions, but may use the modifications for > showing C° better. The ZM1000 tubes are a very nice tube. > > Get the power

[neonixie-l] Re: FS: Shameless Plug - NEW Nixie Thermometer Kit

2016-12-02 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
:58 PM UTC-7, threeneurons wrote: > > Just finished my new nixie thermometer kit. Its almost the same, as the > one-off unit, I made a while back. Main difference, other than the PCB, is > that it uses the LM35 instead of the LM34 temp sensor. The LM35 outputs > 10mV per

Re: [neonixie-l] First Build. Some help to decide

2016-11-24 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Voltage is irrelevant, other than just being high enough to initiate ionization. These are not modern digital logic ICs. Things are not that precise. This is kit, so there are anode current limiting resistors preventing excess current. I don't know your electronics background, but voltage and

[neonixie-l] Re: Favorite cross-fading algorithms...

2016-11-21 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 6:10:49 AM UTC-8, Nick wrote: > > Just wondering what people's favorite smooth cross-fading algorithms > > On my current multiplexed clock kits, I've been using an exponential decay and complementary rise:

[neonixie-l] Re: FS: Shameless Plug - NEW Nixie Thermometer Kit

2016-10-26 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 4:57:58 PM UTC-7, threeneurons wrote: > > > Nixie Thermometer Kit <http://www.ebay.com/itm/152295238799> > > Just a note. I noticed some that bought this kit, did not buy a HV Supply kit along with it. This kit does not make its own 170V

[neonixie-l] FS: Shameless Plug - NEW Nixie Thermometer Kit

2016-10-26 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Just finished my new nixie thermometer kit. Its almost the same, as the one-off unit, I made a while back. Main difference, other than the PCB, is that it uses the LM35 instead of the LM34 temp sensor. The LM35 outputs 10mV per degree Celsius. But the kit can display in either Fahrenheit or

[neonixie-l] Re: Free Gerber Files - Nixie Clock

2016-10-21 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
There are a couple of warning messages, but the files are otherwise "clean". Here is a free gerber file viewer, from Pentalogix: Viewmate On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 3:06:08 AM UTC-7, electrofish wrote: > > Hi > having used OSH Park before I sent the

[neonixie-l] Re: OT: Help with Polish Address

2016-10-21 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Issue resolved. The buyer has confirmed, that he has finally received the package, and its up and running. Thanks, again, for those who helped out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [neonixie-l] Free Gerber Files - Nixie Clock

2016-10-12 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 2:20:24 PM UTC-7, Paolo Cravero wrote: > > > I do hope to design and release my own board for B5092/Z560M and alike, as > well as 6x IV-3, IV-6 and IV-22 VFD's. > > Thanks, > Paolo > > >> Threeneurons Public Folder >>

[neonixie-l] Free Gerber Files - Nixie Clock

2016-10-10 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
, in my public Google folder: Threeneurons Public Folder <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7bJyg1SZgcDfnotcC1odDhIV28wRDA1NEJael9yOUNnU2lDcDAyWnVZNjFzOW9RTGV6WTA> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To

[neonixie-l] Re: NOT another nixie clock!

2016-10-10 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I'll add my 2 cents to what I want in a meter. A true RMS meter, that goes into the RF range. Linear Technologies use to make a chip that helped do that: http://www.linear.com/product/LT1088 Unfortunately, its been discontinued, but the concept still applies. How you implement the greater

[neonixie-l] Re: OT: Help with Polish Address

2016-10-10 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I have two people looking things up. Thank you for your help. On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 10:07:02 PM UTC-7, threeneurons wrote: > > I need someone familiar with addresses in Poland, to help me with an > address. Apparently, a parcel went missing. It got to Poland, then >

[neonixie-l] OT: Help with Polish Address

2016-10-08 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I need someone familiar with addresses in Poland, to help me with an address. Apparently, a parcel went missing. It got to Poland, then disappeared. Please contact me privately, at my junk email threeneurons at yahoo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[neonixie-l] Re: T-Shirts are finally available. Dekatron and Magic Eye shirts from discussion earlier this year.

2016-09-19 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
> email: nixiekeith on gmail. ... email me directly. > > > - Keith > Thank you ... I'll make a note of that. Some good news, just after I posted a rant about eBay. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from

[neonixie-l] OT: Rant - eBay Sucks ! Shipping Calculator

2016-09-19 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I've been having a little (losing) battle with eBay lately, on about international shipping. I've been shorted on 4 transactions, in the last month. Their customer service reps are totally ignorant of their own policies. In the modern age, that, sadly, seems to be the norm. I've made 4 calls.

Re: [neonixie-l] Digest for neoni...@googlegroups.com - 19 updates in 6 topics

2016-08-30 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Couldn't find any response either. He called me from Hawaii, a couple of days ago, so he's doing all his internet browsing from his iPhone. Could have hit the wrong button, by mistake. Sometimes, I lose my grip on my smartphone, and in the process accidentally start up all kinds of apps. Good

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: New clock kit in the making

2016-08-28 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 6:54:48 PM UTC-7, joenixie wrote: > > There was another on the list about 6mos ago, it was a kick starter ... > >> >> No wonder I forgot about it. Kickstarter and other crowd funding sites, were created with good intentions, but it seems the charlatans have caught

[neonixie-l] Re: New clock kit in the making

2016-08-27 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Now that's a neat concept ! Someone talked about using neon bargraphs (IN9 or IN13) to make an analog clock, but I don't recall actually seeing one. Or maybe I did, and just forgot. Anyways, nicely done ! One of the bad things about getting old is the memory going. On the plus side, I can get

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Maybe a stupid question...

2016-08-19 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
> > At least thats my plan tonight. Now to think on it some more. > That's not counter, but free running sequencer. Here's the same circuit, redrawn: The

[neonixie-l] Re: Dekatron Experiments

2016-08-18 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 2:19:55 PM UTC-7, Keith Moore wrote: > > OMG! That 0A5 arc discharge dekatron spinner is amazing, too! > >> >> I built that thing a while back. I uploaded the video, for another forum, discussing arc discharge tubes:

[neonixie-l] Re: Dekatron Experiments

2016-08-17 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
> Yeah. I saw the odd voltage levels too! > Oh on those. If you get a regular nixie supply; 170V. Make a divider out off 3 22K resistors, and the two voltages are 57V and 113V, which are just rounded off to 55V and 110V. That's assuming it was dead nuts on 170V to start with. Throw that

[neonixie-l] Re: Dekatron Experiments

2016-08-17 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Oh, yes, its a timing issue. It works fine with the guides detached. Its just more of a curiosity. Flipping the guide pins does make it switch to K1. I'll have to analyze my circuit timing more closely to discover the actual mechanism details. The reset is issued at the same time as the flip.

[neonixie-l] Re: Dekatron Experiments

2016-08-17 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 8:16:44 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote: > > Very nice! > > I like the discrete XOR gate but its a lot of complexity when you can get > a single "tiny logic" XOR gate from Fairchild, Texas or whoever for $0.10 - > one SOT-23 (as opposed to 4 diodes, 4 resistors and a

[neonixie-l] Dekatron Experiments

2016-08-16 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Well, those who know me, know that I have attraction to dekatrons. Here's some of my latest tinkering. A long while back I designed a 4000 CMOS base pendulum circuit. It used a 4017 counter, and a 4013 flip-flop. I revisited that circuit, and came up with one that just uses on 4518 dual

[neonixie-l] Re: Australian Nixies!!

2016-08-01 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
he right is one of mine though :) > > > > On Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:25:48 UTC+1, threeneurons wrote: > >> I'm currently trying to get my brass working skills up. Just good enough >> for trim, and few accents. >> >> The guy that has an eye for brass is Paul Parry ( &g

[neonixie-l] Re: Some Brass for threeneurons!

2016-08-01 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
All I can say is Wow ! That's some really nice work ! On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 3:00:40 PM UTC-7, Roddy Scott wrote: > > Mike, > > here is a bit of brasswork for you from my latest clock, The Atomium > Clock, featuring CV5278s and a PV Electronics Dink kit, your Dekatron > Spinner and an

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