Re: [Openvas-discuss] Concept for OpenVAS homepage

2007-05-07 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

I just put online a initial coarse web site at www.openvas.org

I did it right away because due to various complains,
anything else seems better than the default page of GForge.

To change the homepage, ones needs to check out the
code in module doc/website and then (on a unixoid system):

$ make
$ make online

For the latter you need to have SVN write access, because
the same account is used to writing web site content.

So, it easy to work on the web site. Anyone welcome who
volunteers to improve.

On Friday 27 April 2007 17:05, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
 Elements that should appear on the main page:
 
 - OpenVAS Logo
   See here for the logo that has been proposed in 2006,
   but not finally agreed upon.
   http://www.36hrs.com/openvas-dino/logo.png

I used the one we discussed.
 
   However, in case we use this logo, we definitely
   need a vector version.

Still missing.
 
 - About area
   -  A short description of OpenVAS. For example:
   OpenVAS stands for Open Vulnerability Assessment
   System and is a network security scanner. It consists
   of a server component and a set of plugins to test
   various vulnerabilities in remote systems and applications.
   It is Free Software under GNU GPL and a fork of Nessus.

I simply applied this draft.

   - A drawning that roughly illustratates the plugin flow.
 I could draft something.

Still to come.

 - Download area:
   OpenVAS Server, Clients, Documentation
   Both, binary packages and source codes.
   (current binaries directly, all others on
   a download subpage)

well, not yet of course.

 - Plugins area:
   Total number of available plugins
   infos about latest plugins (integrated as RSS feed)

also not ready yet.

 - Support area
   - link to mailing lists
   - link to where report errors
   - link to howto's
   - link to FAQ
   - link to professional support page

Partly available yet.

 - a cool photo that makes the whole page nice
   I do not have anything special in mind and would
   be happy about any proposal that could fit for OpenVAS project.

Please help and send cool photos !

 - Which techology to use?
   Perhaps just plain HTML files?

Just used m4 + make for a little pre-processing.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Ideas and wishes for future improvements of OpenVAS

2007-05-16 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Wednesday 16 May 2007 21:00, Kenneth Ng wrote:
 - Plugin severity override: some places value some vulnerabilities
 more than others.  For example: some places rank anonymous CIFS
 connections as vital to their business.  Others say its a big risk.
 Having a front end to override the degree instead of patching the
 plugin would be nice.

perhaps this is related to the false-positive marking discussion I
remember to have read somewhere.
Anyway, a good point.

 - An option to say: do not add new plugins to the .nessusrc file.
 Or maybe, add all new ones as no.  Sometimes I want to run a given
 set of plugins periodically.  I don't want all new ones to also get
 run.

I remember to have read this wish before. Yes, I stumbled across this
already myself.

 - Ability to do a diff between two scan results.

A long-standing wish indeed. IMHO this should have high priority.
It is a client-side feature though. So maybe to implement in NessusClient.

 - database option for the results.

IIRC there even is/was a branch in Nessus CVS with this feature?
Perhaps worth investigating this.

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[Openvas-discuss] Summary of ideas for future OpenVAS functionalities

2007-05-24 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

thank for all of your feedback.

I summarized the ideas (see below) that arrived so far.
I propose to put the list on the www.openvas.org website
under something like Brainstorm for future OpenVAS functionalities.
It should be noted that it is post-1.0 plans and that the roadmap
for post-1.0 will pick from this list.
Anyone volunteering to do this?

Best

Jan

- Plugin severity override:
  Some places value some vulnerabilities more than others.
  For example: some places rank anonymous CIFS connections
  as vital to their business. Others say its a big risk.
  Having a front end to override the degree instead of patching the
  plugin would be nice.
  This is related to ideas about fals-positive marking.

- Configurable option Don't automatically add and run new plugins:
  An option to say: do not add new plugins to the .nessusrc file(s).
  Or maybe, add all new ones as no.  Sometimes I want to run a given
  set of plugins periodically.  I don't want all new ones to also get run.

- Direct support of Database:
  OpenVAS Server should optionally write results into a database.
  It is to be discussed whether this is done additional to sending
  the results via Nessus Protocol. Also the question is open whether
  the server manages access to the database directly or whether users
  submit DB connection and authorization details so that the
  data are written there.

- Re-connnect to running OpenVAS scans:
  OpenVAS should run in the background without
  a permanent connection to the client.
  Re-connection should then allow to get the results.
  Email notification at scan completion is helpful
  as well.

- New Client-Server protocol:
  Replace the old Nessus Protocol by something
  based on standard protocol technologies and
  iron out current weaknesses like the chracter encoding.

- Trace function:
  Show sets of queries. Each query is composed of the rule
  that was used, the destination IP and port, the data sent,
  and the data returned.  This will make it easier to determine false positives.

- Improved NASL debugging

- Condensed Plugins:
  E.g. all the Debian local security checks could be condensed
  into few (for each year). It is not clear yet which other implications
  this might mean.

- Generic Plugins
  Plugins with some heuristics to generically detect weaknesses
  in web applications.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Summary of ideas for future OpenVAS functionalities

2007-05-25 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Thursday 24 May 2007 22:13, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 09:39:37PM +0200, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  However, I don't have any CVS access to nessus-core anymore. Anonymous
  access has been already switched off some time before that.
 
 Well, I still have my local CVS copy.

great :-)
 
  So, I am afraid there it is not really easy to simply retrieve the code.
  The tar-ball releases of Nessus-2 are only snapshots of HEAD.
  Also the OpenVAS modules did take a snapshot of HEAD and not of
  any branches.
 
 Attached is a diff I've just made of NESSUS_SQL vs. the 2.2.5 release. I
 think the database integration was not tested with this release. Of the top
 of my head, I think I did test the code in 2.2.3 and worked with MySQL. There
 are some known issues with the code, however, see the TODO.

good. Perhaps Oliver may take a closer look at it. 

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] (no subject)

2007-05-25 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Friday 18 May 2007 09:25, Renaud Deraison (lists) wrote:
   I have been contacted by Tenable. They are pretty sure
   some plugins in openvas-plugins module are present
   that should not be there due to never being GPL licensed.
   Basically it should at least be anything that matches
   grep -i  script_copyright.*Tenable.* scripts/*
 
 Just a clarification : I was referring to the list of plugins seen in  
 the email than Jan sent to openvas-devel :
 
 http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/openvas-devel/2007-May/000315.html
 
 Whereby some plugins such as the Veritas Netbackup plugins have never  
 been released in the GPL feed and whose release post-dates our  
 license announcement nearly by a full year.

not sure whether there is a misunderstanding here: The list I posted
named proprietary plugins we are missing to reactivate GPL plugins. So
it is even absolutely correct the veritas*.nasl appear on this list.

In other words, none of the listed plugins is present in 
openvas-plugins/scripts.
Including any veritas*.nasl which I just double-checked to make sure my
analysis script is not buggy  ;-)

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] DebConf

2007-06-10 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Saturday 09 June 2007 00:56, Oliver Day wrote:
 On 6/1/07 11:54 AM, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  On Wednesday 30 May 2007 01:20, Tim Brown wrote:
  Anyone thinking of attending DebConf this year?  I'm going and
  will be wearing my OpenVAS hat when appropriate.  One thing I'm
  aiming to tackle is the delisting (or rather the never listing)
  of OpenVAS as an SPI project, since as far as I know we never
  made it to their project list on the web site. Other than that,
  I'll be at various security related talks (see my web site blog
  for more details) if anyone fancies catching up and shooting the
  breaze.
 
  I'm afraid I could not be at DebConf. However, it would be really
  good if you could revive the dialog with SPI and hopefully convince
  them to adopt OpenVAS as a project. Maybe contact Neil prior to the
  conference to prepare this?

 While I won't be able to attend DebConf I am interested in restoring
 SPI status to our project and pinged a friend of mine on this.  We
 have an active and interested group to maintain this project now but
 what we lack is a democratic decision-making structure to deal with
 issues such as money.  I think with the latter in place we could
 approach SPI again and ask them to restore our status.  DebConf is two
 weeks away which gives us just enough time to elect a decision making
 structure.  All in favor?

absolutely :-)

IIRC there was a formal description of decision making structure before
the server crashed. Maybe it needs just to be restored as well?

Tim and Robert should know ...

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] OpenVAS Roadmap

2007-06-13 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Monday 11 June 2007 15:49, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
 I converted the recently collected ideas for future importments
 into HTML, added the idea by Robert Rich and also a planned release
 date for OpenVAS 1.0 and created a web page
 http://www.openvas.org/roadmap.html
 
 It is not linked from the main page yet.

now it is :-)

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] possible sources for security issue announcements

2007-07-04 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007, Tim Brown wrote:
 On Tuesday 03 July 2007 09:32:33 Meike Reichle wrote:
 
  I've been following the discussions on this list for a while and thought
  I might finally have something to contribute. Over here at DN-Systems we
  are currently thinking about automising the plugin development process
  as much as possible. For that I've prepared a list of different sources
  for security issue and vulnerability announcements. Maybe you can use it
  for the OpenVAS feeds?
 
 Sounds good, I agree that it would be very nice to automate plugin 
 development.  I've been working on doing just that with Debian's security 
 advisories.

indeed a helpful overview.
 
  I attached an overview table, if you have any additions or corrections
  to it let me know and I'll update it. Also, how about putting this as
  HTML on openvas.org?
 
 If you supply me with the HTML I'll add it to the web site.

Thanks Tim. I second this.

I'd like to have the overview document on our SCM under doc/ 
so we can maintain it easily.
Meike: Would you send me the source file for this (off-list)?

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] OpenVAS project to take over NessusClient 1.X ?

2007-07-04 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Freitag, 29. Juni 2007, Oliver Day wrote:
 On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  as some of you might have seen, Tenable has released a new generation
  of NessusClient (3.0). It has nothing in common with the NessusClient 1.x
  generation. It is a complete rewrite (based on QT) and it is proprietary.
 
  Renaud has sent me an archive file of the NessusClient repository.
  So we could continue with this client as Free Software easily and not
  loosing CVS history.
 
  However, some questions arise:
 
  - should we add the client to the OpenVAS code repository
   as a module of its own?
   (IMHO yes)
 
  - We need a new name to not conflict with the proprietary NessusClient.
   Some simple ideas (please come up with better ones):
   OpenVAS-Client
   OVAS-Client
   VASC
 
 
 openvas_client (it is sort of rubyish but i like it)

hm, underscores are a bit uncommon.

After some thinking, my preference is OpenVAS-Client.
This has the lowest potential for misinterpreting.
NTP-Client would be even more exact, but has
some confusion on board.

I've no one objects soon, I will import the code of NessusClient
into the OpenVAS repository as module openvas-client.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Roadmap for OpenVAS-Client

2007-07-05 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello Javier,

On Thursday 05 July 2007 19:23, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 05:02:05PM +0200, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  Any other consideration for a initial 0.9.0 release?

 Have a OpenVas-client Debian package available? Note that I sent a while
 back Debian packages for nessusclient (see
 http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html) so it might be trivial to adapt the
 'debian' directory to make packages for OpenVAS-client and have them in
 Debian at the same time as the 0.9.0 release.

yes, that is a good point. NessusClient can be dropped anyway now
since there is only proprietory versions left. OpenVAS-Client ist the way
to go.
I will try my very best to support the Debian package, but I'd appreciate
any help as well!

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Roadmap for OpenVAS-Client

2007-07-06 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Friday 06 July 2007 16:54, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 09:07:07AM +0200, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  On Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
   On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 10:09:23PM +0100, Tim Brown wrote:
I'm more than happy to work on packing the client for Debian.  I
already package arp-scan and sucrack for Debian.
  
   We can co-maintain it, after all, I already provide the Nessus packages
   and would gladly provide OpenVAS packages too (or instead of).
 
  IMHO OpenVAS will indeed replace Nessus simply because it is
  not legal to dsitribute Nessus packages compiled with OpenSSL.

 How so? There is a OpenSSL exception to the Nessus GPL license for that.

I thought so too for a long time, but when preparing OpenVAS for release
I was made aware of my mistake. The OpenSSL Exception intentionally
is only given for the client, not(!) for the server. You will find the file
COPYING.OpenSSL only in the nessus/ directory of nessus-core.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Some last Plugins license issues (urgent)

2007-07-25 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Thursday 26 July 2007 00:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  In any case, they do not have proper GPL (or any other license) headers
  (nor do many other NASL plugins, BTW).

 Once we clear up the legal status of these plugins we should ensure that
 they all have proper license headers.

Indeed.

 If possible we can even resubmit 
 incorrect ones back to the Nessus GPL feed with correct licenses.

I'd prefer to get things done for OpenVAS first.

 Is it 
 possible for Renaud (et al) to clarify the status of the plugins listed
 earlier for us?

IIUC, all is clearified through the releases that have been done
in the past. We only need to check back when in doubt.


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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Creation Process for Network Vulnerbaility Tests

2007-10-18 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2007, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
 I drafted a process outline for the creation of OpenVAS NVTs and put it here:
 http://www.openvas.org/creation-process-nvt.html
 
 It is neither checked into SVN yet not linked from the hompage.

no it is :-)

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: o penvas-client_1.0.0-2_i386.changes REJECTED]

2007-10-21 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Sunday 21 October 2007 02:53, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 As you see in the email below, the openvas-client package was rejected from
 Debian based on the contents of doc/WARNING.En, this document describes the
 risks of running Nessus and starts saying:

hm, these files were present in NessusClient and Nessus-Server as well.

However, only way out is to remove doc/WARNING.[En|Fr] from
openvas-client and openvas-server.

Next we have to remove README_SSL from openvas_server which contains
a similar phrase.

I guess there is no alternative. So, I will remove the files.

Javier/Tim: Could you patch out the two files for the time being?
The next releases will take some time.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] latest nessus-plugins tar-ball t hat still contained Debian local security checks ?

2007-11-01 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Donnerstag, 1. November 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 09:10:26AM +0200, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  Anyone has this in his/her archive?
 
 I might have it, what file are you specifically looking for? In any case, I
 believe these plugins are in the nessus-plugins package in Debian. Have you
 taken a look at the contents of that one?

so far I found these:

4b2710dfb7d7957145b6f101edfba7a7  nessus-plugins-GPL-2.2.5.tar.gz
96198eeba6acfc2ac89781128564d27b  nessus-plugins-2.2.6.tar.gz
ff542c72fd070f1f0d41c964a4bbb373  nessus-plugins-2.2.9.tar.gz
2bac30f702c4a794a29660b8e9dd1077  nessus-plugins_2.2.9.orig.tar.gz
8668cd64379731d6876d93b96f45d9b8  nessus-plugins-2.2.10.tar.gz

Interestingly enough the 2.2.9 md5sum differ. But I haven't tracked this down
yet.

What I tried to find is in fact a package signed by Renaud, but maybe he
never signed them.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Revision of non-free plugins in OpenVAS' SVN

2007-11-01 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello Javier,

thanks for your license audit scripts!

On Donnerstag, 1. November 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 If somebody wants to get Tenable to add proper license headers to *all* of
 their plugins (nasl) and include files conforming to what has been done in
 the past (GPL releases of the nessus-plugins package and GPL feeds) I can
 provide them with 4 year's worth of code (from the 1.3.1 to present) to dig
 in and sustain his/her arguments with.

I don't think this is really worth it to seek for an overall solution. Maybe
it will be interesting for single scripts, if at all.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Revision of non-free plugins in OpenVAS' SVN

2007-11-02 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Donnerstag, 1. November 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 Since OpenVAS is based on the 2.2.9 release and, specially, on the Debian
 packages I wrote for that release, it might be worthwhile to do this review 
 too.
 The output of the 'audit-plugins' script might be useful and could be a start 
 point to cleaning the scripts/ dir of non-free stuff.

here is the result we have to work on (there might be some false positves
though):

Looking for non-free plugins...
NON-FREE plugin sasser_virus.nasl found
NON-FREE plugin scan_info.nasl found
NON-FREE plugin ssh_settings.nasl found
NON-FREE plugin zope_multiple_flaws.nasl found
NON-FREE plugin aix.inc found
NON-FREE plugin backport.inc found
NON-FREE plugin crypto_func.inc found
NON-FREE plugin default_account.inc found
NON-FREE plugin dump.inc found
NON-FREE plugin http_keepalive.inc found
NON-FREE plugin imap_func.inc found
NON-FREE plugin misc_func.inc found
NON-FREE plugin nfs_func.inc found
NON-FREE plugin pop3_func.inc found
NON-FREE plugin rpm.inc found
NON-FREE plugin smb_file_funcs.inc found
NON-FREE plugin smb_nt.inc found
NON-FREE plugin solaris.inc found
NON-FREE plugin ssl_funcs.inc found
NON-FREE plugin telnet_func.inc found
NON-FREE plugin url_func.inc found
21 NON-FREE plugins found

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Revision of non-free plugins in OpenVAS' SVN

2007-11-06 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Dienstag, 6. November 2007, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
 On Freitag, 2. November 2007, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  On Donnerstag, 1. November 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
   Since OpenVAS is based on the 2.2.9 release and, specially, on the Debian
   packages I wrote for that release, it might be worthwhile to do this 
   review too.
   The output of the 'audit-plugins' script might be useful and could be a 
   start point to cleaning the scripts/ dir of non-free stuff.
  
  here is the result we have to work on (there might be some false positves
  though):
 
 After some cleanup this remains:
 
 Looking for non-free plugins...
 NON-FREE plugin backport.inc found
 NON-FREE plugin default_account.inc found
 NON-FREE plugin http_keepalive.inc found
 NON-FREE plugin imap_func.inc found
 NON-FREE plugin misc_func.inc found
 NON-FREE plugin nfs_func.inc found
 NON-FREE plugin pop3_func.inc found
 NON-FREE plugin smb_file_funcs.inc found
 NON-FREE plugin smb_nt.inc found
 NON-FREE plugin ssl_funcs.inc found
 NON-FREE plugin telnet_func.inc found
 NON-FREE plugin url_func.inc found
 12 NON-FREE plugins found
 
 Each of these will deactivate some or even many of the nasl scripts
 when removed.
 
 Well, we do not have an option right now, so these inc-files have to be
 removed from the SVN repository.

done now.


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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Revision of non-free plugins in OpenVAS' SVN

2007-11-07 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Mittwoch, 7. November 2007, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote:
 2007/11/6, Jan-Oliver Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  | ...done
  | 1597 FREE plugins that depend on NON-FREE found
  | Please fix this and rerun the script
 
  of course, the number is incorrect if run in a SVN checkout.
 
 ¿Why is it incorrect?

e.g.:
...
Checking for use of backport.inc...
31 files depend on this NON-FREE include file:
../scripts/.svn/text-base/php_split_mime.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/apache_conn_block.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/openssh_channel.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/samihttp_1_0_4.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/apache_log_injection.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/openssh_uselogin_environment.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/apache_mod_proxy_buff_overflow.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/apache_mod_include_priv_escalation.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/mod_ssl_hook_functions_format_string_vuln.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/ssh_forwarding.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/openssh_afs.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/apache_access_wo_netmask.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/apache_htpasswd_overflow.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/apache_input_header_folding_dos.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/text-base/php_strip_tags_memory_limit_vuln.nasl.svn-base
../scripts/.svn/entries
../scripts/php_split_mime.nasl
../scripts/apache_conn_block.nasl
../scripts/openssh_channel.nasl
../scripts/samihttp_1_0_4.nasl
../scripts/apache_log_injection.nasl
../scripts/openssh_uselogin_environment.nasl
../scripts/apache_mod_proxy_buff_overflow.nasl
../scripts/apache_mod_include_priv_escalation.nasl
../scripts/mod_ssl_hook_functions_format_string_vuln.nasl
../scripts/openssh_afs.nasl
../scripts/ssh_forwarding.nasl
../scripts/apache_access_wo_netmask.nasl
../scripts/apache_htpasswd_overflow.nasl
../scripts/apache_input_header_folding_dos.nasl
../scripts/php_strip_tags_memory_limit_vuln.nasl
...done
...

  Next, what am I asked to fix here? Implement the inc files? ;-)
 
 Well, I have *removed* them in the Debian nessus-plugins package or,
 in some cases, replaced them with *older* versions which did not
 include the inc files. With some grep+find magic you can do this in a
 semi-automatic way (by running the script under different releases and
 finding which scripts do not show up as depending on unavailable inc
 files in those).

yes, I fear we need to go through the scripts and do this work.
It is probably best to organize this process in a way that certain
groups of scripts are adressed and being worked on.

I choose the Debian local security checks as a group to get them
running as good as possible. And they do, based on the debian_DSA*
from nessus 2.2.10 and support nasl and inc files I assembled from
older version, were contributed by Thomas or wrote myself. 

 You might want to take a look at the Debian patches of nessus-plugins
 2.2.10 (available at packages.debian.org) to see which scripts I
 replaced with older versions.

I have these packages over here and always use them for comparison
puposes.
 
  IMHO this has more informative character than a license problem.
  Am I wrong?
 
 If you leave these in and distribute them whenever the OpenVAS server
 starts it will complain (when loading the NASL files) that it does not
 find the .inc files X, Y or Z. Since the NASL scripts will not be
 enabled (and run) in the server it makes more sense to either remove
 them or not distribute them (excluding them from the tar.gz that gets
 built but keeping them in the sources)

I'd vote for leaving them in as long as the we have not reached 1.0.0
of openvas-plugins.
But maybe even keep them in but not sign them.
Or clearly communicate which groups of NVTs we have verified to be complete.
We have several options apparently.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] OpenVAS-is-alive PR?

2007-11-22 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

I now submitted the german news. Lets see whether it is interesting
enough to publish and hope it will not be modified too much.

On Dienstag, 20. November 2007, Robert Berkowitz wrote:
 The press release looks good! I also agree the wording is good. Spells
 out what OpenVAS is and steps taken to keep it open source.
 
 I know some PR people over here in the states that can give us some
 tips when we are ready for a larger campaign.

nice. However, before a larger compaign might start, we need to start
continous work on NVTs ...
... any thoughts on how to organize this are welcome.
Maybe we can find people who take over repsonsibility for certain families.
What I can do it to make life of NVT developers as easy as possible and support
them with helpful tools.


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[Openvas-discuss] Progress on Debian uptake of OpenVAS?

2007-11-23 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Javier, Tim,

any news about the progress of the Debian uptake of OpenVAS client and server 
packages?
Anything I can do?

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Progress on Debian uptake of OpenVAS?

2007-11-27 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Dienstag, 27. November 2007, Tim Brown wrote:
 On Friday 23 November 2007 22:23:01 Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  Javier, Tim,
 
  any news about the progress of the Debian uptake of OpenVAS client and
  server packages?
  Anything I can do?
 
 IMO we have resolved the copyright issues with the client package.  We do 
 however need to resolve the issue with including our own gdchart.  I'm more 
 than happy to take a look at it, but I wondered what the collective wisdom 
 was on this task.  Can I simply remove the existing gdchart directory from 
 subversion and then patch the build process to use the system installed 
 equivalent.  This strikes me as the cleanest approach but might also lead to 
 temporary breakage of the version in SVN for other distros.  Any thoughts?

AFAIU, it was only requested to link the system lib, not to remove the internal
copy. IIRC, this is already the case for the old nessus-core packages. May serve
as an example.
 
 As for the server, I've just been building a new VM in which I can work on 
 OpenVAS developments, so I'll hopefully start packaging the server components 
 this week.

That'll be great.

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[Openvas-discuss] NASL scripts to retrieve Windows registry information?

2007-12-05 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

seems like the base NASL script to retrieve Windows registry (and possible
other information) as a base for other tests (local secerity checks among 
others) is not released as Free Software.

Does anyone know how complex it will be to rewrite such a script?
(I am not really a Windows expert).

I found various GPLed scripts that use some Registry information
form the knowlege base. Reactivating these would be helpful.
Also we could then develop scripts for the MS patch days.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Progress on Debian uptake of OpenVAS?

2007-12-10 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Montag, 10. Dezember 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 08:34:14AM +, Tim Brown wrote:
  IMO we have resolved the copyright issues with the client package.  We do 
  however need to resolve the issue with including our own gdchart.  I'm more 
  than happy to take a look at it, but I wondered what the collective wisdom 
  was on this task.  Can I simply remove the existing gdchart directory from 
  subversion and then patch the build process to use the system installed 
  equivalent.  This strikes me as the cleanest approach but might also lead 
  to 
  temporary breakage of the version in SVN for other distros.  Any thoughts?
 
 I think it's best if the Debian package simply patches the build process and
 leaves gdchart there. Just like it's done with Nessus currently.
 
 If you make the changes please upload new packages to mentors.debian.net and
 I will review and upload them (again).

Tim: I haven't looked into the nessus-core patch for gdcahrt, but if it is
a general solution to the autotools (i.e. use system gdchart if available, own 
else),
I suggest we add it to SVN before doing the 1.0.2 release.

Lets hurry up with these packaging issues. I expect some maintainer
to have some time over christmas days and if we prepare everything for
them, they could finally get packages in place.

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Debian openvas-client package

2008-01-04 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Samstag, 29. Dezember 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 And I have just uploaded to Debian's queue.

which was the observer URL, btw?
I did not find it at a quick search.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Debian openvas-client package

2008-01-06 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Sunday 06 January 2008 04:41, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 03:47:56PM +0100, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  On Samstag, 29. Dezember 2007, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
   And I have just uploaded to Debian's queue.
 
  which was the observer URL, btw?

 It's this one:
  http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html

  I did not find it at a quick search.

 Do not search anymore:

 http://packages.debian.org/openvas-client

 :-)

cool!

now for openvas-libraries? ;-)

Best

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[Openvas-discuss] openvas-client etch backport

2008-01-11 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

we've created a Debian etch backport for openvas-client and made
it available here: http://apt.intevation.de/dists/etch/openvas/

Dies anything speak against adding this to 
http://www.openvas.org/openvas-client.html
and make an announcent  to openvas-announce?

(note that I'd like to eventually get rid of the debian apt tree on 
www.openvas.org,
because this causes some trouble such as file permission problems).
 
Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] openvas-client etch backport

2008-01-11 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Freitag, 11. Januar 2008, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote:
 2008/1/11, Jan-Oliver Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  we've created a Debian etch backport for openvas-client and made
  it available here: http://apt.intevation.de/dists/etch/openvas/
 
 I can upload backports to the official Debian repository for backports
 if those are wanted (http://backports.org). Did you do anything
 special to the official Debian packages or did you just compile them
 in a Debian 'etch' chroot?

we simply rebuild with pbuilder.

backports.org would be really cool as primary OpenVAS etch source.
However, I think it would be good to keep a special OpenVAS
apt server for people who do not want to involve backports.org in their
sources.list. But that is not a problem, on our web page we can list
several sources.

Best

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[Openvas-discuss] (Re)Activation of openvas-plugins mailing list as focal point for coordinating NVT developments

2008-01-22 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

since I got more and more offlist communication about NASL scripts development,
I think it is a time to (re)activate the mailing list openvas-plugins which 
should
be the focal point for coordination of NASL development effords from now on.

Maybe we eventually need a more formalized process to coordinate this 
development,
but I think loose coordination on a mailing list will work out for the time 
being.

So please subscribe to this mailing list if you are interested in NASL script 
developments
and post any related topic there. openvas-devel should then remain a focus
for the actual OpenVAS server, client and related software.

All the best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] [Openvas-devel] Change Requests: Formalized procedure for feature changes?

2008-02-19 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Am Sonntag, 17. Februar 2008 01:11:05 schrieb Tim Brown:
 The work flow should be as follows, IMO:

 Initial request via tracker or mailing list - Request is discussed in
 tracker and debated on list with any substantial points imported into
 tracker - Consensus reached, developer documented change request uploaded
 to http://www.openvas.org/ - Work done to implement change, with updates
 to tracker and lists as appropriate

sounds good.

 I would also suggest that the change requests link back to the relevant
 tracker entry.

this is a very good idea. Also links to mailing list discussions. I've added
this to the CRs now.

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] [Openvas-devel] Compile warnings

2008-02-19 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi Laban,

Am Samstag, 16. Februar 2008 17:20:59 schrieb Lmwangi:
 Started hunting for warnings to fix based on their severity,
 flawfinder -S -m 5 gives me an TOCTTOU alert for chmod'ing of the sockets:
 openvas-libraries/libopenvas/bpf_share.c:368
 ./openvas-libnasl/nasl/nasl_server.c:92
 Done abit of research and it seems like fchmod on sockets ends up in
 undefined behaviour..
  http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/fchmod.html

 http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:eIrjutZ5XAgJ:www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/l
inux-kernel/Year-1999/1999-03/0942.html+Under+Linux+2.1.130,+fchmod+andhl=e
nct=clnkcd=1
 http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2004-11/0188.html Confirmed
 this with a small program that attempts to fchmod a socket descriptor..
 Nothing works..
 Should we disregard the warning from flawfinder? Any ideas for a
 workaround?

I've tried to undestand the problem and potential solutions but failed.
I guess this needs more investigation or a more clever mind ;-)

So, perhaps best to postpone this issue and first resolve the others.
Maybe some bright idea comes to one of us.

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[Openvas-discuss] [Openvas-devel] Voting on Change Requests #1 - #4

2008-02-19 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

I'd like to call for voting on the change requests #1 - #4,
listed here:
  http://www.openvas.org/openvas-crs.html

Naturally, I am in favour of all 4 of them :-)
However, please read and judge whether it is a good
or bad idea or wether it needs further refinement.

I am not totally sure about the proper voting scheme.
Tim, Robert: Does SPI require something special or
do we just decide upon a simple voting?

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] [Openvas-devel] Voting on Change Requests #1 - #4

2008-02-20 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2008, Thomas Reinke wrote:
 #2 Insufficient knowledge of use scenarios to form a vote opinion, but
 comments as follows:
 
 NSR is, AFAIK, not broken w.r.t semi-colons.  The actual NTP
 protocol has the same issue of being line oriented - the server
 replaces all semi-colons with newlines. NSR just carries this
 issue through to its code. Thus removing NSR does not solve
 the semi-colon issue, that can only be done by adding
 support to both client and server to support escaped semi-colons.
 
 As such, using the semi-colon problem as a justification to remove
 NSR doesn't make sense.

Indeed it is only a first step to remove the design flaw.
Fixing the protocol bug should be one of the next CRs (which will
have much more impact on compatibility.

I've extended the CR accordingly.

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[Openvas-discuss] openvas-libraries: 1.0.1 or 1.1-something?

2008-03-17 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

there have been numerous cleanups done on openvas-libraries since 1.0.0
release. Several things have been removed, no real features been added.

I wonder whether we should release the changes as 1.0.1 or
begin a new release series 1.1 (perhaps starting with 1.0-beta1
or alike).

As we have currently a small user base and can react to reported problems
quite quickly, I tend to 1.0.1 even though usually such revisions should be 
restricted to bug fixing only. However, I think there are less benefits
in maintaining two separate branches at this stage of OpenVAS development/use.
As soon as we learn that there are users out there that rely on a strict 
handling of bug-fix-only releases we probably should keep a large pace
to push things forward.

Any opinions?

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Error building manuals

2008-03-25 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello Edu,

On Freitag, 21. März 2008, Edu Castellarnau wrote:
 I have problems building the manuals for openvas 0.9.0. Here I 
 attach the error I obtain:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/openVAS/openvas-manual-0.9.0$ make
 lyx -e pdf users-manual.lyx  lyx -e pdf users-manual.lyx
 make: *** [users-manual.pdf] Error 1

this error message is a bit thin.
Can your try 
lyx -e pdf users-manual.lyx
directly in your shell?

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] AMD64 -libnasl does not build

2008-03-26 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 23:27, Vazquez, Ed wrote:
 Thank you!

 Everything built, installed, signatures updated and the server daemon
 starts!

:-)

 I'm sure I'll have a few questions tomorrow since my first test of the
 client portscans well, but doesn't run any of the available tests (and
 doesn't throw any errors).

 I suspect I've missed a checkbox or flag somewhere, so if anyone has
 suggestions, they will get tried in the morning.

You might want to look into the .dump and .messages file in
/var/log/openvas

Perhaps this gives already some hints.

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[Openvas-discuss] planning release openvas-libraries 1.0.1

2008-03-26 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

quite a lot of code cleanups happened for openvas-libraries.
No real new functionality has been added. In fact, some
have been removed as agreed.

However, some of the cleanups are about the include files
and one consquence is that build might fail on some platforms,
especially other than GNU/Linux.
As discussed earlier on this list is that this should not stop
us in making this the 1.0.1 release nonetheless.

If there is no objection I'd like to do the release end of this
week.

After all it is an intermediate step as there are some cleanups
left to do.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] OpenVAS Gentoo AMD64 not working properly.

2008-03-27 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello Ed,

On Thursday 27 March 2008 18:54, Vazquez, Ed wrote:
 OK, looked in the logs and what I'm seeing is are entries like this:

 [Thu Mar 27 10:09:31 2008][12463] no404.nasl depends on httpver.nasl which
 could not be found

that is OK. Many NASL scripts of Nessus were not Free Software and thus the
OpenVAS project removed but kept other scripts that depend on them.

 In turn, this seems to cause:

 [Thu Mar 27 10:09:31 2008][12463] user evazquez starts a new scan.
 Target(s) : 172.16.8.241, with max_hosts = 20 and max_checks = 4
 [Thu Mar 27 10:09:31 2008][12463] user evazquez : testing 172.16.8.241
 (172.16.8.241) [12464]
 [Thu Mar 27 10:09:39 2008][12464] SIGSEGV occured !
 [Thu Mar 27 10:09:39 2008][12463] user evazquez : test complete

 on each test cycle.

hm, I can not repdoduce this on my Debian Sarge box.

 There seem to be about 113 depends on files that the log file claims are
 missing, even though they are actually present.  E.g.:

 [Thu Mar 27 11:48:17 2008][12452] connection from 172.16.16.56
 [Thu Mar 27 11:48:18 2008][12854] Client requested protocol version 12.
 [Thu Mar 27 11:48:18 2008][12854] successful login of evazquez from
 172.16.16.56
 [Thu Mar 27 11:48:21 2008][12854] no404.nasl depends on httpver.nasl which
 could not be found
 [Thu Mar 27 11:48:21 2008][12854] no404.nasl depends on webmirror.nasl
 which could not be found
 ...
 [Thu Mar 27 11:48:21 2008][12854]
 invision_power_board_calendar_sql_injection.nasl depends on
 invision_power_board_detect.nasl which could not be found
 [Thu Mar 27 11:48:21 2008][12854] user evazquez starts a new scan.
 Target(s) : 172.16.8.241, with max_hosts = 20 and max_checks = 4
 [Thu Mar 27 11:48:21 2008][12854] user evazquez : testing 172.16.8.241
 (172.16.8.241) [12855]
 [Thu Mar 27 11:48:29 2008][12855] SIGSEGV occured !
 [Thu Mar 27 11:48:29 2008][12854] user evazquez : test complete

except for the SIGSEGV I have the same.
 
 Very odd - any ideas on cause?  More data I can provide for
 troubleshooting?

I'd like to know more about the SIGSEGV.
You don't have any lines like

[Thu Mar 27 22:36:18 2008][16493] user jan : launching find_service.nes 
against localhost [16513]

? (I.e. does SIGSEGV occur for any single test?)

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[Openvas-discuss] Use glib ?

2008-04-01 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

I'd like to discuss a long-standing open question about about using
external, widely-used libraries in favour of self-maintained copies or
self-brewn implementations.

I am aware that there is no simple answer.

Among others, the discussion was avout the glib librarary of
the GNOME project. It offers several utility functions e.g. for
hashed data storages or command line parsing to name only two
of them. The code base of OpenVAS could be reduced by using
the functions of glib. Of course, adding further libraries
adds potential security problems. On the other hand, code review is
shared with a much larger developer/user group for widely used external
libraries.

I'd like to hear some opinions about this question.

What strategy should OpenVAS follow?

Are there already noteworthy articles about this question (as it
is absolutely not OpenVAS-specific)?

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Use glib ?

2008-04-01 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Tuesday 01 April 2008 21:28, Rodney Thayer wrote:
 Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  I'd like to hear some opinions about this question.
 
  What strategy should OpenVAS follow?

 when I've found myself complaining about some open source project's
 use (or mis-use, or unfortunately non-portable use) of things like glib,
 I think these are the issues one might consider:

 -- what distro's should it run on easily?
 -- should it run easily on live cd's?
 -- how much work do we want it to end up being to do
apt-cache search openvas

 In other words, I would like to see it be at least a tolerable process
 to run on:

   - fedora 8
   - ubuntu 7

agreed.

   - debian 4

thats my reference system.

   - backtrack/wolvix/etc. live cd's

I do not know these in detail.
Any real problems expected?

   - slackware 8

I have no epxerience with slackware. Well, I think I installed it in 1993 or 
so ;-)

 Note: I don't claim my list is anything but a sample data point ;-)

I would adde SUSE and Redhat to the list.
I know there are some Gentoo guys around.

  Are there already noteworthy articles about this question (as it
  is absolutely not OpenVAS-specific)?

 I agree it is not OpenVAS specific.  However, what effort does the
 team want to put into making it easy to deploy OpenVAS is a question
 the group might want to consider.

AFAIK, glib is quite well supported on various platforms and in fact
intends to balance out incompatibilities between different libc 
implementations, ie. regarding str methods or memory management.

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[Openvas-discuss] planning release of openvas-client 1.0.3 - translators: your turn!

2008-04-02 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

I'd like to release version 1.0.3 of OpenVAS-Client.
Some Change Requests have been considered, some bugs fixed.
So I think it is time to go for a release.

Translations: If any translators would like to update the translation or
add a further one, please speak up ASAP and I will delay
release until you are finished. Else I plan to release end of this week.

Anything else comes to your mind that need change before release?

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Use glib ?

2008-04-07 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Thursday 03 April 2008 03:09, Tim Brown wrote:
 Quick answer.  In my opinion it makes sense.

to start with integrating glib it might make sense to
migrate the GNU getopt stuff (currently maintained as
a copy in openvas-libraries) to the methods offered by
glib 
(http://library.gnome.org/devel/glib/2.8/glib-Commandline-option-parser.html).

That'll be some (not too much) work on openvas-server first (replace code
for command line handling, adapt configure.in),
then on openvas-libnasl (little) and then the getopt copies
could be removed from openvas-libraries.

Good enough to work out a change request?

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[Openvas-discuss] Security language is english !?

2008-04-30 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

I once again stumbled across problems caused by the mutlilingual
features of OpenVAS server (as inherited by Nessus).

I wonder whether it makes sense at all to have the NASL scripts allow
for other languages than english. IMHO this adds only unnecessary source codes,
user confusion, extra-time writing NASL scripts and potentials for 
inconsistencies.
Not to forget the maintenance problem!

AFAIU, the security language is english. All relevant sources of security
alerts are in english and need to be understood anyway by the auditors.
(Yes, there are some non-english sources of security alerts, but in fact
these could even be better implemented as separate base NASL scripts
and form some sort of a profile of its own).

So, I'd be interested in your opinion/thoughts on whether we should
remove any of the Server-side localization support for NASL scripts  ?

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Use glib ?

2008-05-05 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Dienstag, 8. April 2008, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
 On Thursday 03 April 2008 03:09, Tim Brown wrote:
  Quick answer.  In my opinion it makes sense.
 
 to start with integrating glib it might make sense to
 migrate the GNU getopt stuff (currently maintained as
 a copy in openvas-libraries) to the methods offered by
 glib 
 (http://library.gnome.org/devel/glib/2.8/glib-Commandline-option-parser.html).
 
 That'll be some (not too much) work on openvas-server first (replace code
 for command line handling, adapt configure.in),
 then on openvas-libnasl (little) and then the getopt copies
 could be removed from openvas-libraries.
 
 Good enough to work out a change request?

I now crafted one:
http://www.openvas.org/openvas-cr-9.html

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Tools that are managed by OpenVAS

2008-05-05 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Wednesday 02 April 2008 15:27, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
 I've crafted a small overview on tools integrated into OpenVAS:
  http://www.openvas.org/integrated-tools.html

 The page is not linked yet.

 I think it is quite important to talk about the tools that can be managed
 via OpenVAS as OpenVAS can very well play a role of an integrator.

I've updated and linked the page now.

Next, I'd like to get Nikto to work. Anyone has experience with Nikto?

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Security language is english !?

2008-05-06 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 16:18, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote:
 2008/5/6 Jan-Oliver Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Opinions?

 Even though client and server releases are different I don't suggest
 bundling the PO files with the openvasd release and have the server
 handle gettext translations. For several reasons:

 - the NASL code is actually in the openvas-plugins package, not in the
 server

yes, I indeed hat the this module in mind, not openvas-server.

 - it adds complexity to the server for a task unrelated to
 vulnerability scanning

yes, my intention is to get the code base of openvasd further
reduced.

 - you (probably?) have to modify the Nessus client-server protocol so
 that the client can provide the server its language settings (the
 client knows the settings based on the user's environment).

I thought that this could be neglected for a first step.
The server is simply configured with a default language and
will deliver corresponding strings if available.
It is my understanding that most users of OpenVAS-Client
have also installed and configured OpenVAS Server.
 
 I suggest taking this approach instead:

 - adding PO support for NASL scripts through a wrapper that takes the
 message text calls and generates POT files for them in the
 openvasl-plugins's po/ (or intln/) directory that translators can work
 with.

yes, this is a working option. However, I thought I would be
nice to add a _() integrated function to NASL and call gettext from it
with the textdomain set to whatever is configured.
Thus, openvasd would automatically deliver the translated strings
to the client (or to log files) without more complexity than 5-10 lines of
code calling gettext in a proper way.

 - Separately, have the PO files be distributed by a separate
 openvas-plugins-XX package (with XX the language code). That package
 installs the proper /usr/share/openvas just like you provide
 openvas-plugins packages that installs the appropiate MO files for a
 given gettext domain (say 'openvas-plugins') at its proper location
 under  /usr/share/locale/XX/LC_MESSAGES/OpenVAS-plugins.mo (with XX
 the language code)

or it comes with the feed.
And we need some concept to have trusted (signed) translations
like we currently have for the NASL scripts.

 - Since the gettext domain would be different (different MO files)
 have the client change its gettext domain when parsing NASL input, so
 that it gets translated (you can see a way to do this in Squirrel's
 Mail plugins at http://www.squirrelmail.org/wiki/HelpTranslating,
 basically the OpenvAS client would have to swith to the
 'OpenVAS-plugins' gettext domain when generating its output associated
 with the NASL info and then switch back to its own gettext domain
 after it.

I fear that it will get a update/maintenance problem when trying to
have the po files at the client. Shouldn't the translations be where the
original text is?

 It might sound complicated, but to me it looks easier to do than the
 other approach (server side) which involves introducing gettext in the
 server and change the Nessus protocol so that client can provide it's
 language environment to the server.

hm, without having really tried it, I think it should be only few lines
of code on the server side to apply a specific text domain.
Maybe I should simply try to see whether I can proove myself
wrong ;-)

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Security language is english !?

2008-05-06 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 18:05, Thomas Reinke wrote:
  So, I'd be interested in your opinion/thoughts on whether we should
  remove any of the Server-side localization support for NASL scripts 
  ?

 While I've been a fan of localization support (given our environment,
 we often deal with more casual, less security oriented individuals
 who may not have a great working knowledge of English),
 I've NOT been a fan of doing it in the server itself.

 In my mind it doesn't make sense for the simple reason that if you
 take days and weeks to run a set of scans on a large network, it
 seems wrong that you are stuck with whatever language you used at
 the time you ran the scan.  It would seem to me that if you
 change the language at the client level, the reporting language
 ought to change as well.  Based on that, the current server-side
 localization code that was previously done is in my mind is pretty
 much useless (but hey, that's just my 0.02 worth).

seems we all agree the current concept is broken by design :-)

You bring up an interesting aspect: Should a scan result be
translatable into more than one language?

Does the gettext / po implemenations allow for easy back-to-english?
If so, I could imagine solutions to allow a translation to various
languages inside the OpenVAS-Client.
But I have to move my mind a bit more about this...

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] OCERT

2008-05-13 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Tuesday 13 May 2008 08:09, Tim Brown wrote:
 Do we wish to apply to join OCERT (www.ocert.org)?

after a quick glance I do not see any reason against this.
What would you expect from a membership?

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Question about plugin 11808

2008-05-15 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

(I am CCing this to openvas-plugins, the mailing list for plugin issues)

On Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2008, Vincenti Francesco wrote:
 I am writing you to understand the correct behaviour I should have in
 front of the results of OpenVAS scansion, according the following
 problem. 
 
 Every scansion of my company's PC I have done until now shows a security
 hole in each machine which is detected by plugin 11808, about Microsoft
 RPC Interface Buffer Overrun, and is caused by epmap on port 135.
 
 The plugin suggests to update the operating system to a kind of patch
 but when I try to install it the answer is that the operating system
 version in more recent than the patch itself: obviously, the problem is
 known since 2003 and Windows has reached the SP 2 now!
 
 Is this result the consequence of some missed update of the plugin 11808
 or is the pluging itself which is not update to the SP 2, and how can I
 solve this false positive?
 
 Thank you very much for your attention.

I am not a plugin developer nor would I call myself a Windows guru.

However, the first observation when looking into the NASL code (msrpc_dcom.nasl)
is that a dependency is not fullfilled (msrpc_dcom2.nasl). This script is 
missing
which is probably because it is kept proprietary by Tenable (OpenVAS project 
obviolusly
had to remove any proprietary elelement).
But this does not necessarily cause the problem.

I can try to reproduce the problem, but I'd need to know how to start
the service at port 135. My default XPSP2 has nothing running there.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Nasty variable scoping booby-trap

2008-05-18 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Thomas,

On Thursday 15 May 2008 23:30, Thomas Reinke wrote:
 Some thoughts we've had:

     1) Change the nasl compiler to force all variables to be
        explictly declared;
     2) Default undeclared variables to a local scope;
     3) Have a lint style checker that examined functions and
        warned of global variable usage, which could then be vetted
        as acceptable (or not)

 Any thoughts?

It would be great if you could prepare a simple NASL script
that demonstrates the danger of the current NASL implementation.
This script could also then serve for debugging and proof it works
better after a change.

Given there really is the weakness you mention (I didn't track down your
hints yet), option 3 seems not really an option to me.
The first option appears as the best solution to me. This should
reduce programming errors.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Nasty variable scoping booby-trap

2008-05-18 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Thursday 15 May 2008 23:53, Michel Arboi wrote:
 On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Thomas Reinke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Variables in a function in NASL do not _need_ to be declared.

 Isn't it magical?

I guess it is more a conceptual element of the NASL programming
language. Its not a new concept (many other programming languages behave
similar), so I wouldn't exactly call it magic.

  If the variable is not declared at all, it will be created,
  automatically, with a global scope.

 Or maybe not? Who knows?

Are you saying that Thomas is wrong?

 1) Change the nasl compiler to force all variables to be
explictly declared;

 Which is, as far as I can remember, incredibly easy.

I guess so, too.

 2) Default undeclared variables to a local scope;

 That looks like a good idea.

I am not sure that automagic is good for this type of
programming. Better to make the developer aware of
anything that he believed to be implicitly correct.

 Maybe I already had it. 

Are you saying you even implemented this already?
Why are you in doubt?

 3) Have a lint style checker that examined functions and
warned of global variable usage, which could then be vetted
as acceptable (or not)

 Which is probably not very complicated.

I guess it is a simple as option one, in fact it is more or less
identical ;-)

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] svn under BackTrack3 beta

2008-05-18 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Sunday 18 May 2008 22:46, echo6 wrote:
 Apologies if this is not the correct place to ask!

it is the corect place :-)

 I'm trying to install the svn openvas on the USB version of BT3 beta.

I am not familiar with BT3. What is the base of it?

 openvas-libraries built and installed without any problems.
 openvas-nasl I experienced missing files in /usr/local/lib
 ln -sf libopenvas.so.1 libopenvas.so
 ln -sf libopenvas_hg.so.1 libopenvas_hg.so
 I was able to build openvas-nasl after creating the symlinks.

in fact this shouldn't really happen.
Can you post the commands you applied to configure, build
and install openvas-libraries?

 On trying openvas-server make failed
 r/local/bin/openvas-libnasl-config --libs`

(seems you mean openvas-libnasl, not openvas-server)

 `/usr/local/bin/libopenvas-config --libs`-ldl
 /usr/local/lib/libopenvasnasl.a(nasl_signature.o): In function
 `print_gpgme_error':

Probably you have the gpgme library not available for the
compilation process.
In fact, during configure, you should have seen a warning
about this.
Try this to see whether the required develpment module
is installed:
$ gpgme-config --version

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Voting on Change Requests #6 - #9

2008-05-19 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

On Donnerstag, 15. Mai 2008, Robert Berkowitz wrote:
 On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Jan-Oliver Wagner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'd like to call for voting on the change requests #6 - #9
   as listed here:
 
http://www.openvas.org/openvas-crs.html
 
#6: Remove support of old XML report format
 
 This looks good to me. Since we can export in a new and better
 supported XML format I see no reason not to move forward with this.
 
#7: Extend report widget with optional info on NVT name/oid in 
  OpenVAS-Client
 
 The additional info would be helpful. I support this.
 
#8: Introduce NVT family Credentials
 
 We should implement this.

there seems to be general agreement with these changes.
However, I'd appreciate some more explicit votes on this.
Or may I go ahead with +2 ?
  
#9: Make OpenVAS use (and depend on) glib

 I think some more exploratory work should be done on this before a
 full implementation.

What do you mean with full implementation?
First of all, we need to find out whether to link glib at all.
If yes, there are some simple things to use (such as the command line
parsing) and some complex stuff (object storage).
We should discuss any subsequent use of glib API with a Change Request
of its own.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] OpenVAS and Cygwin

2008-05-31 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Thursday 22 May 2008 02:26, Tim Brown wrote:
 On Wednesday 21 May 2008 13:54:19 John Chajecki wrote:
  1. The OpenVAS client seems to clash with with Cygwin and refuses to
  launch when Cygwin is active. We have installed OpenVAS client 1.0.3 on
  Windows.

 Not sure about that, I would wait and see what other people say on the
 subject.  Jan is often a good bet since he builds the Windows client.

I've heard about this type of problem once, quite a long time ago.
IIRC, the Cygwin versions clashed somehow.
Is this a general problem of two cygwin applications on the same machine
or more a specfic problem of the OpenVAS build method?

  2. We downloaded the manua but we can't read it. It seems to be written
  with something called LyX. We have downloaded LyX and we now have a
  pretty LyX associated with users-manual.lyx but when we click on it
  nothing appeared to happen. About 5 minutes later however, a web browser
  like window suddenly opened up on the desktop with the manual displayed.
  I realise this may be a LyX issue, but why can't the manuals be written
  in a common file format like html or PDF rather than some obscure format
  that no one has heard of (yes - I have asked around!)?

In fact the PDF manual should open up if you click the respective menu item
in the OpenVAS-Client GUI.

 The markup format we use for the manual is LaTeX.  This is a pretty common,
 open format which is heavily within the science and technology community.
 Having said that, it's main use here is to allow the generation of HTML and
 PDFs from a single source.  Maybe it would be worth updating the relevant
 packages to generate one of those formats as part of the distribution
 process.  I think it's a fair point that end users shouldn't have to rely
 on having LyX (or another LaTeX editor) installed to use OpenVAS.  Thoughts
 anyone?

Well, currently LyX is only needed for modifying the manual. Just reading,
a PDF viewer is sufficient.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Nasty variable scoping booby-trap

2008-05-31 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Monday 19 May 2008 00:50, Lukas Grunwald wrote:
 Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  1) Change the nasl compiler to force all variables to be
 explictly declared;
  2) Default undeclared variables to a local scope;
  3) Have a lint style checker that examined functions and
 warned of global variable usage, which could then be vetted
 as acceptable (or not)
 
  Any thoughts?
 
  It would be great if you could prepare a simple NASL script
  that demonstrates the danger of the current NASL implementation.
  This script could also then serve for debugging and proof it works
  better after a change.
 
  Given there really is the weakness you mention (I didn't track down your
  hints yet), option 3 seems not really an option to me.
  The first option appears as the best solution to me. This should
  reduce programming errors.

 For option 1 and 2, this would break almost all NASL scripts, and i
 don`t go with it, as long no one voluntarily will fix them all .-)
 But option 3 is the only one, if you want to be still compatible with
 some proprietor security products .-)

Indeed option 1 would mean quite some work.
Nonetheless, IMHO it is the option in the long run.
Perhaps we can control efford with a clever revisioning
of the the NASL Level. Or actually it will be OASL in the near
future to prevent compatibility confusion ;-)

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Voting on Change Requests #6 - #9

2008-05-31 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Monday 19 May 2008 10:12, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
 On Donnerstag, 15. Mai 2008, Robert Berkowitz wrote:
  On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Jan-Oliver Wagner
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to call for voting on the change requests #6 - #9
as listed here:
  
 http://www.openvas.org/openvas-crs.html
  
 #6: Remove support of old XML report format
 
  This looks good to me. Since we can export in a new and better
  supported XML format I see no reason not to move forward with this.
 
 #7: Extend report widget with optional info on NVT name/oid in
   OpenVAS-Client
 
  The additional info would be helpful. I support this.
 
 #8: Introduce NVT family Credentials
 
  We should implement this.

 there seems to be general agreement with these changes.
 However, I'd appreciate some more explicit votes on this.
 Or may I go ahead with +2 ?

I updated the website now accordingly for CRs #6-8.

 #9: Make OpenVAS use (and depend on) glib
 
  I think some more exploratory work should be done on this before a
  full implementation.

 What do you mean with full implementation?
 First of all, we need to find out whether to link glib at all.
 If yes, there are some simple things to use (such as the command line
 parsing) and some complex stuff (object storage).
 We should discuss any subsequent use of glib API with a Change Request
 of its own.

I left this one open as there seems more need for discussion.
Please add your thoughts.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] OpenVAS and Cygwin

2008-06-02 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Montag, 2. Juni 2008, John Chajecki wrote:
 I have found that OpenVAS uses the Cygwin1.dll. Its in C:\Program
 Files\OpenVAS-Client\bin but its version 0.132 as opposed to verson
 0.156 installed in C:\cygwin\bin. Replacing the file in C:\Program
 Files\OpenVAS-Client\bin with the one in C:\cygwin\bin seems to fix the
 problem.

Fine, so this solves the probem.
 
 Is there any way of making OpenVAS use the already installed Cygwin?

The installer needs to be made more clever.
However,  I'd like to switch from InnoSetup to NSIS eventually, so I hesitate
to put work into InnoSetup. Maybe I find the time to switch to NSIS
and add the cygwin test for the next release.

Ideally, I'd like to have a native cross compilation environment and get
rid of cygwin. Fully automized including the packaging, i.e. type make 
OpenVAS-Client.exe
on a Linux mashine :-). But that'll take 2 or 3 extra days which I can not 
afforf ATM.

Best

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[Openvas-discuss] Prototype for OID-to-NASL mapping web interface online

2008-06-02 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

we've put a OID to NASL script mapping online
as discussed for Change Request #1.

It is simply so far. A URL like this:
http://www.openvas.org/?oid=1.3.6.1.4.1.25623.1.0.61039
resolves to the SVN trunk version of the respective
NVT.

After all, the links applied in the PDF reports (since
OpenVAS-Client release 1.0.3)  will now lead to a helpful
information.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] can not login to openvas server

2008-06-02 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Monday 02 June 2008 16:19, christian gattermair wrote:
 i try the today svn versions.

 when i try to login with the client and only user:pw (without ssl) i get:

 on the server [20295] gnutls_handshake: A record packet with illegal
 version was received.

 and on the client

 remote host is not using the good version of the nessus communication
 protocol (1.2) or is tcpwrapped

that is absolutely OK. OpenVAS has no option to run without SSL.
The SSL switch in the client is only available for compaibility with
Nessus which allow for unencrypted use.

Perhaps we should simply remove this option. Unencrypted connection
has no real use-case IMHO. Other opinions?

 with ssl enabled on the client i get:

 login failed

Should not happen.

 user and pass are 100% correct.

That would have been my first guess :-)

 thanks for any hint!

on which operating system (and which version, any other
special things) did you try this?

What does the log files of  openvasd say?

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[Openvas-discuss] Voting on Change Requests #9 - #12

2008-06-12 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello OpenVAS team  users,

I'd like to call for voting on the change requests #9 - #12
as listed here:

  http://www.openvas.org/openvas-crs.html

  #9: Make OpenVAS use (and depend on) glib
  #10: Remove support for non-SSL connections in OpenVAS-Client
  #11: Make OpenVAS-Client use (and depend on) glib
  #12: Replace NTP with OTP

Naturally, I am in favour of all 4 of them :-)
However, please read and judge whether it is a good
or bad idea or wether it needs further refinement.

Note that we factored out the client-side from #9 to #12.

All the best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Voting on Change Requests #9 - #12

2008-06-18 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Freitag, 13. Juni 2008, Bernhard Herzog wrote:
 On 12.06.2008, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  I'd like to call for voting on the change requests #9 - #12
  as listed here:
 
http://www.openvas.org/openvas-crs.html
 
#9: Make OpenVAS use (and depend on) glib
#10: Remove support for non-SSL connections in OpenVAS-Client
#11: Make OpenVAS-Client use (and depend on) glib
#12: Replace NTP with OTP
 
 I'm in favor of all of them.

I now declared them as accepted with vote +2.
 
 Just one note about the glib CRs: In many cases, the arglists in OpenVAS can 
 be replaced by simple C structs instead of glib data structures.

indeed. from the glib I in fact hop for hashing and other standard routines.
Usually you need to define some comparison functions and then
can use arbitrary C structs as data objects.

Best

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[Openvas-discuss] idea: Contest 'Best advances for OpenVAS Network Vulnerability Tests'

2008-06-26 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

how about arranging a Contest 'Best advances for OpenVAS Network Vulnerability 
Tests'
in order to make OpenVAS more known, get people to look on how to implement
further NVTs or in other ways implement ideas to improve OpenVAS?

What I am having in mind is something like this (just quickly drafted and
entirely open for suggestions how to change or extend or entirely
rewrite it):


Contest: Best advances for OpenVAS Network Vulnerability Tests

The OpenVAS Team (Open Vulnerbility Assessment System, [1])
calls for submission of patches, scripts, converters
or anything else that significantly improves the OpenVAS framework
for extendedOpen Source Network Vulnerability Testing.

Basically your are free to choose the actual area of improvements,
examples are:

 * New .nasl scripts for recent security alerts
 * NASL libraries for simplifying development of new test scripts
 * Converter routines that (semi-)automatically create NASL
scripts from formal security alerts.
 * Performance improvements for the current tests.
 
There are arbitrary other ways to extend/improve the OpenVAS
test routines.
The only hard requirement is that your solution is published
as Free Software under GNU GPLv2+.

Current winner prices are (the amount might increase because
additional sponsors are welcome to add to the price as along as
the contest is open):

 1: 500 Euro
 2: 300 Euro
 3: 100 Euro

The sponsors and OpenVAS steering team will jointly choose the winners
inspired by these criteria:

 * number of CVEs/BIDs covered
 * relevance of the covered alerts
 * sustainable future benefit (e.g. in the case of supporting APIs)
 * how well the development was coordinated via the public OpenVAS
mailing lists (teams may win as well)
 * code quality (documentation, design, style)

Contest sponsors are (sorted by sponsored amount):

 * Intevation GmbH, www.intevation.net

Time table:

2008-07-01: Contest started
2008-09-30: Contest closes
2007-10-15: Winners nominated

How to participate:

 * express you wish to participate on the OpenVAS mailing list
and what you plan to work on
 * summarize you contribution before contests closes

[1] www.openvas.org



Maybe we can get some press on board to support such a contest?

What do you think?
Stupid idea?
Unrealisitic to find enough people?

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] idea: Contest 'Best advances for OpenVAS Network Vulnerability Tests'

2008-07-04 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
 how about arranging a Contest 'Best advances for OpenVAS Network 
 Vulnerability Tests'
 in order to make OpenVAS more known, get people to look on how to implement
 further NVTs or in other ways implement ideas to improve OpenVAS?
 
 What I am having in mind is something like this (just quickly drafted and
 entirely open for suggestions how to change or extend or entirely
 rewrite it):

I received message from DN-Systems that they support the idea and
will add some Euros to the prize :-)

More comments urgently welcome.

Best

Jan

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] openvas on Ubuntu 8.04

2008-07-14 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Am Sonntag, 13. Juli 2008 17:04:22 schrieb echo6:
 I'm using subversion to build from source, 1.0.2.

 Here are some issues I've noticed on Ubuntu.

 /usr/local/lib needs to be added to /etc/ld.so.conf otherwise
 openvas-mkcert complains about missing libraries.

I've never experienced such a problem so far.
Not sure why it installs to /usr/local/lib.

 Launching openvasd and I get the following errors
 Loading the plugins... 2244 (out of 5343)smb_nt.inc: No such file or
 directory
 Loading the plugins... 2448 (out of 5343)url_func.inc: No such file or
 directory
 Loading the plugins... 2958 (out of 5343)slad.inc: No such file or
 directory

that is OK. the first two are proprietary NASL scripts which we
had to remove after the fork from Nessus.
slad.inc is a file that is created when SLAD is installed.

 I've created a user, but I am unable to login, trying to remove a user
 and openvas-rmuser complains user does not exist!

can you look into /var/lib/openvas/users/ ?
There should be a directory with the same name as the user.

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] idea: Contest 'Best advances for OpenVAS Network Vulnerability Tests'

2008-07-17 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Am Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2008 07:31:32 schrieb Tim Brown:
 On Thursday 26 June 2008 14:51:08 Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  how about arranging a Contest 'Best advances for OpenVAS Network
  Vulnerability Tests' in order to make OpenVAS more known, get people to
  look on how to implement further NVTs or in other ways implement ideas to
  improve OpenVAS?

 I'm game, I'll throw in the 100 euro prize personally.

Great!

 I suspect we need 
 to get details up on the web site and announce it on the various security
 forums.

I'd be glad if anyone can take care of this as I am really short of time
next 10 days.
What needs to be done is shift dates, improve text, update amounts
and contributors and then get the web page online as well as prominently
linked from the homepage. Then send it to the security forums or whereever
it fits.

 Are we considering your email a formal announcement of intent? 

You mean the Euro amount for such a prize? Yes, sure!
I now count a total of 1000 Euro already (Intevation/DN-Systems/T.Brown) :-)

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] openvas-compendium to replace openvas-manual?

2008-07-17 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Am Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2008 01:43:06 schrieb Tim Brown:
 On Tuesday 08 July 2008 11:17:09 Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
   * plain latex(+hyperlatex) instead of lyx (make compilation easier for
  distributions AFAIU) * Get rid of any authorship of the origin Nessus
  team (which means to rewrite various sections, which is good anyway since
  most of the stuff is quite old). The only part transferred to the
  compendium is the part I wrote myself - the GUI description. Once the
  OpenVAS team identified an independend organization to hold the
  copyright, the compendium could this way transferred entirely.

 I would go with SPI if we want to centralise copyright in this manner.

I did already a couple of months ago. The result was that despite
the fact that they have a corresponding note on their pages they
never received any copyrights so far. And they are neither
prepared for this nor really wishing to do it (they did not negate though).
My conclusion than was that it might be better to head for FLA
some day and either transfer to FSFE or another trusted organization.

 I  know they prefer not to hold copyright, but they will do so if asked and 
we
 already have an existing relationship of sorts with them.  Incidentally, I
 notice that the source for the compendium is GPLv2(only) however it
 generates CC-SA licensed output.  I'm not sure that this is the best way to
 go.

hm, this should be cleaned of course. Since the compendium is
actually documentation I'd prefer CCSA over the GNU licenses
as it is better understood (remember the Debian discussion about FDL).

  In case the old manual should indeed be superceeded with the compendium,
  how to do that?
 
   * Keep module name openvas-manual or rename it to
  openvas-compendium? * Move compendium files to this module and keep the
  other files for a while? * Or delete them immediately?
   * Which version to apply? (-manual has 0.9.0, -compendium has 0.1.0).
 
  My personal preference is to rename to openvas-compendium, delete all old
  stuff and apply version 0.1.0.

 I second that.

:-)
If no non-positive comments get in, we will do the change end of this month
or early in August.

 For the record, content so far looks excellent.  I've added a sub section
 on script_oid to the NASL scripting chapter as it's important to get that
 documented.

thanks. Yes, to fulfil the promise of a compendium there need to be
many additional stuff in there. However, we must have a start.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] OpenVAS donations?

2008-07-30 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Dienstag, 29. Juli 2008, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
 Tim Brown wrote:
  Thanks for your response on OFTC I appreciate it, but could you clarify the 
  position as to what SPI require from OpenVAS in order to start taking 
  donations on our behalf?
 
 I'll need to check with our accountants about the specifics of running a
 contest like this.  There are specific rules and requirements due to
 SPI's 501(c)(3) status.  I'll let you know as soon as I hear back from
 them.

if this causes any trouble, Intevation could organize the process.
 
 As for general donations, those can be setup at any time.

that'll be good anyway.
I guess, SPI prepared some piece of HTML that could be integrated
into homepages so that the donation options are directly linked?

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] idea: Contest 'Best advances for OpenVASNetwork Vulnerability Tests'

2008-07-30 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Montag, 28. Juli 2008, Jonas Andradas Arias wrote:
 If I am not mistaken (which I perfectly might), doesn't OpenVAS include a 
 utility to compile C-plugins as NASL files?  Or does it only compile NASL 
 scripts... I am a bit lost on that yet.

no, there is no converter for C to NASL.
There once was a factory for C plugins. In fact some header files. But that
was all of no help.
The way to go is writing NASL and, where helpful, extend NASL or its built-in 
functions.

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] idea: Contest 'Best advances forOpenVASNetwork Vulnerability Tests'

2008-07-31 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello Jonas,

On Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2008, Jonas Andradas Arias wrote:
 no, there is no converter for C to NASL.
 There once was a factory for C plugins. In fact some header files. But that
 was all of no help.
 The way to go is writing NASL and, where helpful, extend NASL or its 
 built-in functions.
 
 could you recommend a NASL tutorial/manual?  The best I have found are these:
 http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com.au/articles/25155-Using-Nessus-Attack-Scripting-Language-NASL-to-find-application-vulnerabilities
 
 and
 
 http://www.nessus.org/doc/nasl2_reference.pdf
 
 Is there another NASL reference or manual which is more up to date or better?

The OpenVAS team works on a OpenVAS Compendium where a NASL developer
guide should be part of. Currently you find openvas-compendium under
doc/ in SVN, but it will soon emerge as a package of its own.

The NASL devel part is in the works and should see significant progress in 
August.

Apart from this the nasl2_reference is of some help.

The best help usually are the other NASL scripts which you could take
as examples.

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] can not login to openvas server

2008-07-31 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello Pascal,

On Wednesday 23 July 2008 12:21, Pascal Bovet [MikeHorn] wrote:
 I've the same problem as described on thread:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/openvas-discuss@wald.intevation.org/msg00397.ht
ml

 i created a user with nessus, tried to login (with running nessusd) and
 everything worked. i stoped nessusd, copied the user to openvas, started
 openvasd tried again, doesn't work..

note that the problem described under the URL above was about unencrypted
access. In contrast to Nessus OpenVAS does not allow unencrypted access.

 nessuslog says:
 [Wed Jul 23 11:29:06 2008][15962] connection from 127.0.0.1
 [Wed Jul 23 11:29:06 2008][17210] Client requested protocol version 12.
 [Wed Jul 23 11:29:06 2008][17210] successful login of test from 127.0.0.1
 [Wed Jul 23 11:29:10 2008][17210] Communication closed by client


 opvaslog says:
 [Wed Jul 23 11:30:40 2008][17857] connection from 127.0.0.1
 [Wed Jul 23 11:30:40 2008][18494] Client requested protocol version 12.
 [Wed Jul 23 11:30:40 2008][18494] bad login attempt from 127.0.0.1

hm, there should be some other log info for unencryped access.

 $ cat /var/lib/nessus/users/test/auth/hash
 d57282a6ca65d6caeb48fad352821c89 a380ec87f21022701f95780e592f5f1b

 $ cat /var/lib/openvas/users/test/auth/hash
 d57282a6ca65d6caeb48fad352821c89 a380ec87f21022701f95780e592f5f1b

 same result, when i create the user with openvas-adduser..
 i can't login into openvas server, but login to nessus server with same
 login works without problem..

Can you retry with a simple user (password) and with encrypted connection?

You should use the newest OpenVAS-Client.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] idea: Contest 'Best advances for OpenVAS Network Vulnerability Tests'

2008-08-01 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
 how about arranging a Contest 'Best advances for OpenVAS Network 
 Vulnerability Tests'
 in order to make OpenVAS more known, get people to look on how to implement
 further NVTs or in other ways implement ideas to improve OpenVAS?
 
 What I am having in mind is something like this (just quickly drafted and
 entirely open for suggestions how to change or extend or entirely
 rewrite it):

I'd like to not delay this contest any further as we received quite positive 
feedback.
Surley it would be good to have support by SPI for managing it, but Intevation 
could take
over responsibilities until things are clearified.
Getting the contest to start is more important than to get the details
straightened, IMHO. 

Please feel free to fix or improve the actual announcement of the contest
(we have already two additional sponsorts :-) :

 
Contest: Best advances for OpenVAS Network Vulnerability Tests

The OpenVAS Team (Open Vulnerability Assessment System, [1])
calls for submission of patches, scripts, converters
or anything else that significantly improves the OpenVAS framework
for extended Open Source Network Vulnerability Testing.

Basically your are free to choose the actual area of improvements,
examples are:

 * New .nasl scripts for recent security alerts
 * NASL libraries for simplifying development of new test scripts
 * Converter routines that (semi-)automatically create NASL
scripts from formal security alerts.
 * Performance improvements for the current tests.
 
There are arbitrary other ways to extend/improve the OpenVAS
test routines.
The only hard requirement is that your solution is published
as Free Software under GNU GPLv2+.

Current winner prices are (the amount might increase because
additional sponsors are welcome to add to the price as along as
the contest is open):

 1: 500 Euro
 2: 300 Euro
 3: 200 Euro

The sponsors and OpenVAS steering team will jointly choose the winners
inspired by these criteria:

 * number of CVEs/BIDs covered
 * relevance of the covered alerts
 * sustainable future benefit (e.g. in the case of supporting APIs)
 * how well the development was coordinated via the public OpenVAS
mailing lists (teams may win as well)
 * code quality (documentation, design, style)

Contest sponsors are (sorted by sponsored amount):

 * Intevation GmbH, www.intevation.net
 * DN-Systems GmbH, www.dn-systems.de
 * Tim Brown

Time table:

2008-08-15: Contest started
2008-10-15: Contest closes
2007-10-30: Winners nominated

How to participate:

 * express you wish to participate on the OpenVAS mailing list
and what you plan to work on
 * summarize you contribution before contests closes and submit
it on the OpenVAS mailing list

[1] www.openvas.org


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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Trouble Compiling Library version 1.0.2

2008-08-07 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Donnerstag, 7. August 2008, Michael Stephen Hughes wrote:
  I am having trouble compiling the openvas-libraries package on red hat 
 4.6. The package auto configures succcessfully, but when I run make it 
 dies on compiling network.o in the libopenvas directory. Specifically,
 network.c:255: error: 'nessus_connection' has no member named 'last_err',

this is odd because nessus_connection is defined in the very same file
and does contain last_err.

Can you
$ make distclean

and configure again?
Are there any problems reported during configuration such as missing
gnutls-dev or so?
Perhaps you can paste the output here.

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] login failed

2008-08-21 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

On Donnerstag, 21. August 2008, 臧冬松 wrote:
 I'm a beginer to openvas.
 I have just install openvas-server(openvasd (OpenVAS) 1.0.1 for Linux ) on a 
 machine with debian.
 and then I add a user with openvas-adduser,create a cert with openvas-mkcert .
 
 Next I installed OpenVAS-Client 1.0.3.  on another machine running win xp.
 But when a connect the server use the username,it tells me Error:login failed.
 ps:I choose Use SSL Encryption and select the cacert.pem file created on 
 the server.
 
 Is anything I did wrong?

you probably have been hit by the same problem discussed recently.
openvas-add-user might have failed to create the user in the correct directory.
Please see in /var/lib/openvas/users whether there is a directory with the name 
of the user.
If you have used a different prefix for compilation, you now have to move the 
user
directory to whereever you have prefixed. This problem is already fixed and will
not occur with the next release.

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] openvas-nvt-sync only get debian local security checks

2008-08-22 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Freitag, 22. August 2008, 臧冬松 wrote:
 when I run openvas-nvt-sync ,I only get deb_***_*.nasl in 
 /usr/local/lib/openvas/plugins directory.Is that normal ?

yes. Currently only the debian Local Security Checks are served by the feed.

This might drastically change in the near future, though.

You should also install openvas-plugins, of course.

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Next Tier for the OpenVAS feed: join with OSSIM/AlienVault

2008-08-29 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Freitag, 22. August 2008, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
 IMHO, there is no reason why OpenVAS NVT feed shouldn't be changed/extended
 in its contents/mission in order to suffice the needs of the OSSIM users.
 Basically this would mean to simply add any available .nasl script that is 
 committed
 to openvas-plugins (all the SecPod scripts arrived in openvas-plugins trunk
 already today - thanks to Chandra).
 The mission of the OpenVAS NVT Feed would then be changed to something like
 Newest NVTs from Developer Team's Repository.
 
 There are some smaller issues that would need to be discussed (like
 clever structuring of families, OIDs and so on).
 In fact I do not see any major blocker why we shouldn't start this right away.
 Quite the opposite - (even slightly) diverging  feed contents, would cause
 a lot of headache over time when trying to understand/discuss with other some
 scanning  results.
 
 Opinions welcome.

if no concerns are expressed, I will do this change as proposed.
Of course we'd need to announce this prior to the change on openvas-announce.


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Re: [Openvas-discuss] OpenVAS VMware appliance - very basic version

2008-08-31 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Sunday 31 August 2008 05:08, Patrick Hornung wrote:
 osva:~/openvas-client-1.0.4# pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0
 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include

 Seems awfully reproducible in Debian Etch, but something is certainly not
 right.  Any ideas?

is glib.h in one of the above directories?

Next, config.log created during configure of OpenVAS-Client might
contain some helpful information.

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Fwd: Re: OpenVas plugin development (was Up to date statement of Account)

2008-10-14 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Tim,

thanks for clearifying this.
Now we only need bank details for international transfer.

Best

Jan

On Montag, 13. Oktober 2008, Tim Brown wrote:
 
 --  Forwarded Message  --
 
 Subject: Re: OpenVas plugin development (was Up to date statement of Account)
 Date: Monday 13 October 2008
 From: Michael Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Tim Brown wrote:
  On Friday 26 September 2008 19:39:46 Michael Schultheiss wrote:
   Michael Schultheiss wrote:
I apologize for the lack of official communication.  I was unable to
find my initial request to the legal and financial advisors in my sent
mail so I redrafted the request and added a request for an ETA of a
response if they must do further research.  I'll get back to you as soon
as I hear back from the advisors.
  
   The CPA said he would look into this and get back to me on Monday,
   September 29, 2008.
  
  Michael,
  
  Any update on this?
 
 I finally heard back from the CPA.  He said there should be no problem
 for SPI to hold the funds for this competition.
 
 -- 
 
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 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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[Openvas-discuss] Support scripts for local security checks?

2008-11-08 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

I wonder whether it might make sense for users to have
shell scripts like openvas-lsc-prepare-target and
openvas-lsc-remove-on-target to that
do make the necessary changes on the target system
to have it available for local security checks (and undo the
changes if needed).

Basically it would be about creating a user with low rights
and a ssh_authorization on the target system.
Basically what is described on
http://www.openvas.org/performing_lsc.html

Let me know your opinion or alterntive ideas to make the
LSC management easier.

Best

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[Openvas-discuss] Planning OpenVAS Developer Conference #2 (OpenVAS DevCon2)

2008-12-04 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

I do see the growing need to meet in real life in order to

 * review the last 2 years of great development
 * plan future features
 * discuss designs
 * discuss how to extend NVT coverage
 * discuss professional services and how they relate to
OpenVAS project
 * have a beer (or other beverages) with people we see
only rarely or see only as an email address.

In summary, I'd like to derive a master plan for the next 1-2 years
from this meeting.

I offer to hold the 2nd OpenVAS Developer Conference in
Osnabrück, Germany in the new offices of Intevation.
Potential dates are:

  June 11-14 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)
  June 18-21 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)
  July 9-12 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)
  July 16-19 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)

Please let me know what you think!

Who would like to participate?
And already know the dates are OK for him/her?

If we can gather at least a small group, then
I will prepare a agenda and start into detailed planning
to offer a nice and interesting stay.

What I am uncertain: should we consider a Users' session prior
to the DevCon with Workshops or alike? Maybe someone wants
to hold a workshop. If we take a small fee we might finance
travel for some developers.
Opinions on this?

All the best

Jan

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Planning OpenVAS Developer Conference #2 (OpenVAS DevCon2)

2008-12-09 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

I encourage you to send on-list comments :-)

Important decisions that should be made during this
developer meeting is:

* OIDs: final layout, assignment procedure.
* how to get rid of the opevas-plugins module (part of design for OpenVAS 3.0)

All the best

Jan

On Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2008, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
 I do see the growing need to meet in real life in order to
 
  * review the last 2 years of great development
  * plan future features
  * discuss designs
  * discuss how to extend NVT coverage
  * discuss professional services and how they relate to
 OpenVAS project
  * have a beer (or other beverages) with people we see
 only rarely or see only as an email address.
 
 In summary, I'd like to derive a master plan for the next 1-2 years
 from this meeting.
 
 I offer to hold the 2nd OpenVAS Developer Conference in
 Osnabrück, Germany in the new offices of Intevation.
 Potential dates are:
 
   June 11-14 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)
   June 18-21 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)
   July 9-12 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)
   July 16-19 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)
 
 Please let me know what you think!
 
 Who would like to participate?
 And already know the dates are OK for him/her?
 
 If we can gather at least a small group, then
 I will prepare a agenda and start into detailed planning
 to offer a nice and interesting stay.
 
 What I am uncertain: should we consider a Users' session prior
 to the DevCon with Workshops or alike? Maybe someone wants
 to hold a workshop. If we take a small fee we might finance
 travel for some developers.
 Opinions on this?

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Cannot find libopenvas.2

2008-12-09 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi John,

On Tuesday 09 December 2008 18:52:28 John A. Sullivan III wrote:
 Hello, all, and congratulations to the developers on the release of
 OpenVAS.  I had wondered with great interest what happened to the
 gnessus project.  We have used Nessus off and on for years and are
 delighted to see the flurry of activity after what seems like three
 years of incubation.

there was a period of silence, though not of inactivity until we
started intense phase. There are numerous tasks we have to cope with
to offer a helpful product of high quality.

 We hope we can contribute our experiences, perhaps
 some documentation and maybe even some finances to further the project.

Any sort of contribution is more than welcome. The OpenVAS project has some
pretty good working processes established to coordinate and manage the
team. If you have special contributions in mind, please let us know.

 We thought we would dive right in to version 2 and immediately hit some
 problems.  We are installing on fully patched Ubuntu 8.0.4 on amd64.  I
 believe we have run Nessus 2.x successfully before and, in fact, it is
 still installed.

this platform should not be problematic.

 We took all defaults during installation from source (./configure 
 make) and it appears to have installed into /usr/local/ as expected
 although I do not see an openvas.conf in /usr/local/etc/openvas/

 Although we will ultimately use our own key and cert, we thought we stay
 plain vanilla for our first test and do the cook book openvas-mkcert.
 Unfortunately, it returns:

 /usr/local/sbin/openvasd: error while loading shared libraries:
 libopenvas.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 Executing openvasd failed. Make sure your library loader is configured
 properly and that openvasd is in your $PATH.

yes, you should employ LD_LIBRARY_PATH or ldconfig for this.

 So does adduser and even just trying to start openvasd.  openvasd is in
 the path:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo echo $PATH
 /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/ho
me/jsullivan/bin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo which openvasd
 /usr/local/sbin/openvasd

 /usr/local/lib is in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf.  We did manually run
 sudo ldconfig just in case.  We even rebooted.  All the same.

hm, so you did employ this.
Could you additionally test using LD_LIBRARY_PATH?

 libopenvas.s exists:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/lib$ ls -l /usr/local/lib/libopenvas*
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  16 2008-12-09 07:26 /usr/local/lib/libopenvas
 - libopenvas.2.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  16 2008-12-09 07:26
 /usr/local/lib/libopenvas.2 - libopenvas.2.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 
 344799 2008-12-09 07:26 /usr/local/lib/libopenvas.2.0.0

 What have we done wrong? Thanks - John

not sure. What does ldd on openvasd say?

Best

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[Openvas-discuss] Today: Joined efford to solve autotools issues before 2.0.0 - please help

2008-12-15 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi all,

issues have been reported that the configure environment of OpenVAS
does not work properly.

Michael and myself were not able to reproduce the problem nor
to fully understand it.

So, please get into a discussion at IRC today to help solving the issue.
See http://www.openvas.org/online-chat.html how to get there.
Michael and myself will be there and do anything we can do to
assist the analysis/understanding/fix of the issue.

Since most people did not report problems with rc1, we will
release 2.0.0 in case no one joins into the IRC session to discuss.
I think that is the best we can do. Delaying the 2.0.0 further is no
good option IMHO.

All the best

Jan

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Planning OpenVAS Developer Conference #2 (OpenVAS DevCon2)

2008-12-22 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Sunday 21 December 2008 00:19:12 Tim Brown wrote:
 On Thursday 04 December 2008 16:04:11 Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
  I offer to hold the 2nd OpenVAS Developer Conference in
  Osnabrück, Germany in the new offices of Intevation.
  Potential dates are:
 
June 11-14 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)
June 18-21 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)
July 9-12 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)
July 16-19 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)
 
  Please let me know what you think!
 
  Who would like to participate?
  And already know the dates are OK for him/her?

 DebConf 9 is on July 16-31 in Spain but other the other 3 dates are good
 right now.

this makes   July 9-12 2009 (Thursday-Sunday)
the date for OpenVAS DevCon #2.
I will start into planning details.

 Another idea I just had is an OpenVAS village at Hacking at
 Random, August 13-16, 2009?

I likely will not be there, but perhaps some other OpenVAS developers?


  If we can gather at least a small group, then
  I will prepare a agenda and start into detailed planning
  to offer a nice and interesting stay.

 Sounds like fun, I'd like to have a spot on governance put on the agenda.
 There are a number of things I'd like to brain storm with a view to getting
 feedback from openvas-discuss post conference.

Seems we can gather most major SVN comitters at least :-)

  What I am uncertain: should we consider a Users' session prior
  to the DevCon with Workshops or alike? Maybe someone wants
  to hold a workshop. If we take a small fee we might finance
  travel for some developers.
  Opinions on this?

 Sounds good to me but this isn't a crucial point in my mind.  More
 important is to get some of the various developers together and hack some
 code.

Chandra offered to hold a workshop IIUC. We can announce the offer and
simply see what happens.

Best

Jan

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] (Debian - Lenny) glibc error when configuring openvas libraries

2009-01-03 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

On Friday 02 January 2009 21:03:24 Man-E-Faces wrote:
 I downloaded all of the tarballs associated with OpenVas and began with the
 libraries (per the instructions on the installing/ config page).  Upon
 running ./config for the openvas libraries, I get the following error:

 checking for GLIB... no
 configure: error: glib = 2.6.0 not found

 As you can see from the output below, I have a virtual package installed
 for 2.7.1 for glibc.

configure requests glib, not glibc. glib is part of the GTK+ project, see 
www.gtk.org for more.

Try something like
# apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
to install the development files.

Best

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[Openvas-discuss] Start of planning OpenVAS DevCon 2

2009-01-07 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi,

I just put a draft page on the OpenVAS DevCon#2 online:

http://www.openvas.org/openvas-devcon2.html

I guess it might make sense to introduce a special
email address such as devcon2 att  openvas.org
to not require to send reservation whiches, arrival
times etc. to the public mailing list.

Also it would be great if a team of 2 or 3 people
would volunteer to do some organizational work
such as maintaining the above web page (also make it nicer
than it is currently ;-), maintain the list of participants
and coordinating the working out of the agenda.

Over here at Intevation we will take care of hotel reservations,
evening events and all the stuff where you need to be onsite.

All the best

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[Openvas-discuss] Greenbone Website now online

2009-01-09 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

last October I announced the launch of Greenbone Networks dedicated to OpenVAS 
enterprise services:

  
http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/openvas-announce/2008-October/49.html


Now, we have our website online:

  http://greenbone.net/


We are still busy on improving the website and finalizing our
core product, the Greenbone Security Feed. If you have direct comments or
questions, you can reach us via: i...@greenbone.net


All the best

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[Openvas-discuss] Draft announcement for OpenVAS DevCon2

2009-02-02 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

I'd like to announce the DevCon2 to the openvas-announce mailing list.
Here is a draft, what do you think?

Best

Jan


OpenVAS Developer Conference #2: July 9-12 2009 in Germany

For the second time, the OpenVAS developers will meet in real life
to exchange ideas and plans about future OpenVAS developments.

While Developer Conference (DevCon) #1 in 2006 brought the
initial team together and lead to OpenVAS 2.0 and all of the project
infrastructure, DevCon #2 faces the challenge to coordinate the
numerous feature plans and other contributions brought in
by the strongly growing user and developer community.

We expect a final roadmap for OpenVAS 3.0 (to be released in late 2009),
interesting exchange of ideas and concepts among professionals
and newcomers and, last but not least, a lot of fun meeting team members
from all over the globe.

The planning coordination will be updated here:

  http://www.openvas.org/openvas-devcon2.html

A User's Workshop is also planned one day prior to the conference (July 8th, 
2009).
OpenVAS users who are interested in a first-hand training should visit
the DevCon#2 web page and express their interest early.

DevCon#2 is kindly hosted by Intevation GmbH and will be held in their offices 
in
Osnabrück, Germany.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Draft announcement for OpenVAS DevCon2

2009-02-06 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Montag, 2. Februar 2009, Jan-Oliver Wagner wrote:
 I'd like to announce the DevCon2 to the openvas-announce mailing list.

sorry, of course I meant to a broader public.
There already was an announcemnt on our own list.

 Here is a draft, what do you think?

Thanks for the confirming feedback. We'll start to push
the news to the usual channels starting next week.

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] NVT Rsync and firewall issues

2009-02-12 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Thursday 12 February 2009 19:31:52 Thierry Thelliez wrote:
 But I have a question: Should I empty my plugins directory first? Or
 does that matter? The rsync command retrieved 13314 files. On the
 server I now have 13324 files. Are the 10 extra files older
 definitions that should be removed?

it is the *.nes files. Since they are platform-dependent
they can not distributed over the feed. They are installed
with the openvas-plugins module.

 One last question, is there other feeds I should consider?

http://www.greenbone.net/solutions/gbn_feed.html   ;-)
But this is basically a supported version of  the
OpenVAS feed, not something complementary/addon.

There is a feed with OSSIM, but I have no idea how much
additional content is provided.

Best

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Duplicate plugin IDs

2009-03-05 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Donnerstag, 5. März 2009, Thomas Reinke wrote:
 I think there was a misunderstanding.
 
 I mean replace the ENTIRE script with the one line exit(0),
 not just the actual test logic.  Remove everything, including
 the if(description) section, leaving only one line in the
 file.
 
 The server won't read anything (except exit). It thus can't
 pass anything on to make the user think the script is still
 active.  There won't be any plugin ID conflicts, since there
 won't be a plugin ID in the deprecated script. You can't
 overwrite a different script (well, unless you are grabbing
 stuff from multiple sources and filenames themselves conflict,
 which is a completely different problem).
 And it won't require any code tweaks in the server.

I rather prefer to refine the sync process. And perhaps the openvas-plugins
installation process in order to take identify and handle such situations.
Mistakes might happen in the future. And it is not simple retiring,
it can be just bugs. Having automized routines to take care of it, would
be the best option IMHO.

Best

Jan

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Idea features tracking

2009-03-10 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Montag, 9. März 2009, Christian Eric Edjenguele wrote:
 one idea to avoid duplicate plugin development or feature for openvas,
 must be to set a trac base system (http://trac.edgewall.org/), like, but
 must powerful than the actual tracker.
 developer could also be able to add features there for proposal.
 
 what do you think ?

the discussion trac vs. GForge has a long record. Both have their
advantages and disadvantages.

A migration would consume lots of manpower and I do not see real
showstoppers in the coordinaton of the developments.

Best is to though in the plans one has into the mailing list or into IRC.
The development team is (yet) small enough to coordinate at this
informal level.

Once the team get bigger, we indeed might need to think
about some more formal processes.

Best

Jan


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[Openvas-discuss] Stopping support for openvas-plugins = 1.0.2

2009-03-12 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

I'd like to stop support for openvas-plugins = 1.0.2 soon.
Those versions contained a bug in the nvt sync routine which
was fixed on 2008-09-10 and first released with 1.0.3 on 2008-09-17.
This bug forced us to have a ugly work-around on the OpenVAS Feed Server
and I want to get rid of it.

To find out whether the installed version is defect, you can execute
this on the command line:

$  grep avrP `which openvas-nvt-sync`  echo defect found, please update

What we need is a announcement on the openvas-announce mailing list.

Apart from this, is anyone aware of a operating system that has openvas-
plugins = 1.0.2 as a default installation?
(this could mean some trouble I guess)

Any additional idea about how to handle this situation?

Best

Jan

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Integrating OpenVAS into OSSIM

2009-03-15 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello Dominique,

On Sunday 15 March 2009 17:36:32 Dominique Karg wrote:
 I'm finishing off the next release of ossim and I think it would add
 lot to it if we finally replaced nessus with openvas.

:-)

 This release
 will be lenny (32 and 64bit) based, I'm having a look and notice that
 packages for lenny aren't readily available on the server part.

 My question therefore is: are there any official/trusted backports
 available or will we have to do them ourselves?

In fact, we are working on Lenny packages over here at Intevation.
However, it takes some time. We try to be in sync with the Debian stuff
but Debian still did not manage to have all of OpenVAS integrated
and also the recent releases did not arrive yet in unstable.

However, I can not promise a date when our packages are available
as there are so many tasks aound OpenVAS to do.

Best

Jan

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] OTP help

2009-03-18 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Tuesday 17 March 2009 15:29:34 Shawn Duffy wrote:
 So, I would think that this means that only two plugins would be enabled
 (scanner plugins) and that the port range would be limited to 1-1024.

 As I watch the status messages scroll by it looks like the portscan is
 limited to 1-1024 but after that it starts running other plugins.  I'm
 seeing it trying to run smb checks, slad checks and other status
 messages indicating that it is cycling through all available plugins:

in principle, issuing a NVT could mean that its dependencies are executed
as well. This could mean a chain of a couple of scripts.
You can look at the script dependencies to analyse this.

There is a client option that can silence the output of dependent plugins.
However, they still wil be executed.

Best

Jan

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] pid file location

2009-03-22 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Friday 20 March 2009 16:15:16 John A. Sullivan III wrote:
 Hello, all.  Perhaps I'm brain cramping in my rush but I did not see
 anywhere within openvasd.conf or anywhere else for that matter where we
 can set the location of the pid file.  For example, we installed
 to /usr/local and the pid file is thus being created
 in /usr/local/var/run.

Isn't the handling usually done by the start-stop daemon?

Best

Jan

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[Openvas-discuss] Preparing announcment for NVT#10000

2009-04-08 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hi OpenVAS team,

I drafted a announcment for the (upcoming) 1th NVT.
Any comments, suggestions?

Best

Jan


OpenVAS now beyond 1 Network Vulnerability Tests

Passing the 10.000th Network Vulnerability Test (NVT) is a perfect
occasion to report about the progress of the OpenVAS project[1].

In October 2008 the systematic development of new NVTs
started with a base of around 5800 Tests. With the release
of OpenVAS 2.0 in December 2008, the development was boosted
and reached now an average of 10 code updates per day.
The public OpenVAS NVT Feed Service delivers 3-10 new vulnerability
tests every day.

The significantly grown and globally distributed developer team
will gather on the second OpenVAS developers conference[2] July 9-12 2009
in Germany. During the conference features and roadmap for OpenVAS 3.0
will be scheduled.

The OpenVAS project is directly backed up and also supplemented with
professional services[3] by a number of companies, namely Greenbone Networks,
SecPod, Intevation and SecuritySpace.
Reaching the professional enterprise market is a good indicator that
OpenVAS gained maturity very fast says Tim Brown, founder of the
OpenVAS project.

While OpenVAS 3.0 will likely appear already in 2009, users of OpenVAS 1.0
should prepare to migrate as support for 1.0 will end during 2009.

[1] www.openvas.org
[2] www.openvas.org/openvas-devcon2.html
[3] www.openvas.org/professional-services.html

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] Any news on OpenVAS debian packages?

2009-04-15 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Mittwoch, 15. April 2009, Dominique Karg wrote:
 just wanted to bump this again since I'd really would love to replace  
 Nessus with OpenVAS in the upcoming OSSIM release.

what is the timeline?
Lenny, I guess?

 Any news?

Here at Intevation we prepared the OpenVAS-Client 2.0.2 for Etch and Lenny
recently. Now we are working on 2.0.3, should be uploadable this week.

Here at Greenbone we have Lenny packages for the server but they are heavily
customized and not generally useful.
Are you planning to take packages as they come or are you just seeking for
source packages to rebuild for OSSIM?

Best

Jan

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] False positive security holes ?

2009-04-15 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Mittwoch, 15. April 2009, Marco Schaerfke wrote:
 if(version_is_less_equal(version:version, test_version:5.1.5.0)){
   security_hole(0);
 }
 
 
 I look with help of the explorer also for that file, but I am unable to find 
 it. Could it be that the code above is wrong ?

perhaps version contains wrongly crafted strings that result in true.
Some debug_messages should  help to find out.

Best

Jan

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[Openvas-discuss] OpenVAS this week at DORS/CLUC 2009 in Zagreb, Croatia

2009-05-04 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hallo,

I know it is very late info:

I will give some presentations about OpenVAS at the main Linux/Free Software
event of Croatia,  DORS/CLUC 2009 ( http://www.open.hr/dc2009/ ).

I guess all croatian people here are already aware of this event ;-)

However, the presentations are in english language, so it addresses
a broad audience.

All the best

Jan

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[Openvas-discuss] New web page to collect articles and studies about OpenVAS

2009-05-07 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

I just created a new web page to collect articles and studies about OpenVAS:

http://www.openvas.org/articles-studies.html

If you know about any, please drop a note.

Best

Jan

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