Howto save a computed track

[Helmut Jarausch]

Computing long distance tracks take quite some time.
Is it possible to save such a track for later usage? 
If this isn't possible, yet, 
please take this as a feature request. 

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Re: gpx recording stops when screen switched off in new versions

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Have you checked that OSMAND is excepted from any battery saving mode?
Have you Greenify installed?
Anyway, I prefer a different solution. I'm using "GPS Logger" which drains
less battery. You can then copy the track saved by GPS Logger to the folder
/files/tracks by using any file manager (like FX).
Helmut


Harry van der Wolf  schrieb am Mo., 1. Apr. 2019, 20:43:

>
> I created a new issue: https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6766
> Anyone else experiencing the same?
>
> Text from the issue:
> ===
>
> Motorola G5-plus, Android 8.1.0 OsmAnd 3.3.x
>
> Since the option to make OsmAnd a "device admin app" has been removed, the
> gpx tracking stops when I switch off the screen.
> When hiking I want to record my track, but I do not need to see my screen
> so I switch it off.
> Then the tracking stops until I switch on the screen again.
> This is really an annoying bug.
> In the mean time I tried other tracking apps and they simply continue
> tracking with the screen off, and they are not device admin app either.
> I did check whether the app is in battery optimize mode, but it is
> definitely not.
>
> Please repair this bug.
>
> =
>
>
> It makes OsmAnd unusable for me.
>
>
> Harry
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Re: showing routes driven on a several day trip

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I prefer using the Android app "GPS Logger" which drains less battery.
Furthermore you can store waypoints with a meaningful name at any time.
You can edit these tracks with the app "GPS Track Editor" and view them
with the app "GPX Viewer".
You can then copy these GPX files into the OSMAND folder
net.osmand.plus/files/tracks using any file manager like FX.
Tracks in that folder can be displayed (and followed) in OSMAND.
Helmut

Majka  schrieb am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019, 09:15:

>
>
> On Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:45:44 UTC+2, ra wrote:
>>
>> urgent ask for help: I will be on an island trip by car and would like
>> osmand to make a trace of every street I took during several weeks. is that
>> possible, how?
>>
>> ideal would be if every road taken would remain visible tracked (wit a
>> red line or so) as long as I want (not a daily track but a continuous one).
>> if you have an idea how to accomplish that please let me know very soon!
>> thank you!
>>
>
> There is a module "route recording" just for your use ;) Look the correct
> name in English, I have at the moment OsmAnd in my local language.
>
> But I wouldn't do it the way you want. You COULD do it in theory, but it
> isn't a good idea. You would probably need to keep OsmAnd running in the
> background permanently (can be set in the module settings), the file would
> be huge and probably slow down OsmAnd. And, the main reason against - if
> something goes wrong, you could loose the complete recording of the route,
> not just one day of it.
>
> Record every day (or every trip) separately (split the files), and at the
> end, simply join the individual gpx files together. The module can do it
> for you - it can split the recording at every pause longer than 2 hours and
> after a pause on the next day. If you can, backup the gpx files in the
> meantime - not sure if you will have the possibility to do so. The module
> offers live tracking as well. Even so, I would every week or so copy the
> recording at least at a SDcard, just to have some backup.
>
> Majka
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Re: showing routes driven on a several day trip

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Yes, you can find in the play store.

 schrieb am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019, 19:38:

> Is that app "gps logger for android" ? thanks Helmut
>
> On Wednesday, 3 April 2019 08:56:17 UTC+1, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>>
>> I prefer using the Android app "GPS Logger" which drains less battery.
>> Furthermore you can store waypoints with a meaningful name at any time.
>> You can edit these tracks with the app "GPS Track Editor" and view them
>> with the app "GPX Viewer".
>> You can then copy these GPX files into the OSMAND folder
>> net.osmand.plus/files/tracks using any file manager like FX.
>> Tracks in that folder can be displayed (and followed) in OSMAND.
>> Helmut
>>
>> Majka  schrieb am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019, 09:15:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:45:44 UTC+2, ra wrote:
>>>>
>>>> urgent ask for help: I will be on an island trip by car and would like
>>>> osmand to make a trace of every street I took during several weeks. is that
>>>> possible, how?
>>>>
>>>> ideal would be if every road taken would remain visible tracked (wit a
>>>> red line or so) as long as I want (not a daily track but a continuous one).
>>>> if you have an idea how to accomplish that please let me know very soon!
>>>> thank you!
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is a module "route recording" just for your use ;) Look the
>>> correct name in English, I have at the moment OsmAnd in my local language.
>>>
>>> But I wouldn't do it the way you want. You COULD do it in theory, but it
>>> isn't a good idea. You would probably need to keep OsmAnd running in the
>>> background permanently (can be set in the module settings), the file would
>>> be huge and probably slow down OsmAnd. And, the main reason against - if
>>> something goes wrong, you could loose the complete recording of the route,
>>> not just one day of it.
>>>
>>> Record every day (or every trip) separately (split the files), and at
>>> the end, simply join the individual gpx files together. The module can do
>>> it for you - it can split the recording at every pause longer than 2 hours
>>> and after a pause on the next day. If you can, backup the gpx files in the
>>> meantime - not sure if you will have the possibility to do so. The module
>>> offers live tracking as well. Even so, I would every week or so copy the
>>> recording at least at a SDcard, just to have some backup.
>>>
>>> Majka
>>>
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Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)

[Helmut Jarausch]

Thanks for the tip!

Poutnik Fornntp  schrieb am Fr., 29. März 2019,
11:12:

> Try to search the Google group history, it was described in details
> multiple times.
>
> In short,
> 1) download from OsmAnd site the .APK installation file for your OsmAnd+
> version
> 2)  optionally rename it to .ZIP
> 3) open the archive and extract from it routing.xml file
> 4) edit the coefficient there ( it is a text file )
> 5) put it on the OsmAnd data folder.
>
> In case of major changes in osmand routing,
> it is adviced to repeat this process.
>
>
> Dne 29. března 2019 10:12:55 Helmut Jarausch  napsal:
>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>> how can I change this heuristic coefficient?
>> Many thanks for a hint,
>> Helmut
>>
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Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)

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Harry van der Wolf  schrieb am Di., 26. März 2019, 11:24:

>
> For calculating routes OsmAnd uses a default heuristic coefficent of 1.0.
> I always use 1.4 and can easily calculate routes up to 1500 km and
> relatively fast.
> Using a higher heuristic coefficient is "theoretically" reducing optimal
> route calculation, but Osmand is really the only one around using 1.0.
> Almost all apps using the A*-algorithm use values between 1.3 and 1.6.
> As said, I use 1.4: my calculations are on longer routes up to 4x faster
> calculating the 100% exact same route, memory consumption is hundreds of
> megabytes lower.
> So fiddling with the heuristic coefficient also gives you a "faster, more
> memory efficient phone" for the same money.
> For bike navigation Osmand is using 1.4 by default and for pedestrian
> navigation it uses 1.2 by default. I didn't change that.
>
> Hi,
>
how can I change this heuristic coefficient?
Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut

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Store a route - how to?

[Helmut Jarausch]

I have generated a route with several intermediate points which I have selected 
on the map.
I'd like to save this route which I only need in a few days. 
Is this possible? 

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Re: Store a route - how to?

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Many thanks!

 schrieb am Mi., 20. März 2019, 13:40:

> Directions button > details > save logo (at the top)
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 5:22:51 AM UTC-7, Majka wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 20 March 2019 13:02:15 UTC+1, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>>>
>>> I have generated a route with several intermediate points which I have
>>> selected on the map.
>>> I'd like to save this route which I only need in a few days.
>>> Is this possible?
>>
>>
>> Let it calculate the navigation. Let it show you details and you can then
>> save the route as gpx.
>>
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Re: Does the paid version OsmAnd+ on Google Play have contours?

[Helmut Jarausch]

For such an extremely useful app you just pay a few euros or dollars, and
that just once! Each month really time consuming calculations have to be
done to transform the OSM maps into a format that can be used by OSMAND.
And it's not just me who downloads several GB each month when updating my
maps, and servers for such a huge amount of data are not cheap.
I have paid MUCH MORE money for my Garmin device (years ago) and even
after  dozens of firmware updates it doesn't work flawlessly.
Can you image how it feels if you are in an unknown city and your device
hangs and has to restarted by a complicate procedure which takes about 20
minutes?
Have you ever made a bug report to companies like Garmin which has been
resolved in a timely manner?
I have never had such an experience with OSMAND!
So, I am very grateful to the developers of OSMAND!!!
Helmut


Poutnik Wanderer  schrieb am Sa., 26. Jan. 2019,
14:18:

> Is not it a little weird,
> if one realizes that
> OSMAnd is considered
> an all-purpose-to-be map/nav application?
>
> Even if one buys the OSMand+,
> such a basic map app feature for non-car a/o off-road cases
> is not part of the application,
> but must be bought as the extra plugin...
>
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>
> > Yes, the Contours plugin is a separate purchase and download on the Play
> > store.
>
>
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Re: Drag and Drop for via Points

[Helmut Jarausch]

All favorites can be moved. I've asked that a few months ago. Just search
this forum. The feature is a bit hidden.
Helmut

'Osmandtrier' via Osmand  schrieb am Mi., 10. Apr.
2019, 12:10:

> I am still using Osmand 3.2.7. After planning 4000 km for bicycle with
> locus I love the possibility to move the via-points with drag and drop. Is
> this meanwhile also possible in a newer version of osmand?
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Re: Is it possible to import a list of POI from a spreadsheet?

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Hi, you don't need to programme anything. You can transfer the file
favourites.gpx from your mobile
(/Android/data/net.osmand.plus/files/favourites.gpx) to your PC.
There you can use a text editor (or spreadsheet software) to generate the
entries mentioned in my previous mail. Again, using a text editor you can
add (all of) your entries before the last line (containing ).
Then copy this modified file to your mobile at the very same place where
got it from. The term  has to be replaced by either your internal
or external SD card depending on where OSMAND has stored this file and
maps, etc.


Boris Feldblyum  schrieb am Mo., 27. Mai 2019,
18:55:

> Thank you, Helmut for taking the time to reply.
>
> Unfortunately, I am not a programmer and do not understand your advice and
> what to do.
>
> Here is what I did and what am trying to do right now.
>
> I tried to add a friend’s address as point of interest (POI) on both
> OSMAND and MAPS.ME while the apps were open but neither worked.  I think
> MAPS.ME allowed me to view the entire street but no house number.
>
> I did the same on Google/MYMAPS and there it worked. In total, I put 3
> test POI on the map, across several US states and then exported the data
> into a KML file - on my desktop.
>
> Next, I emailed the file to myself.
>
> Next, I touched-opened it on my Android phone. The MAPS.ME icon appeared.
> I assumed it meant that MAPS.ME imported the KLM data, but I could net
> see the POI on the map.
>
> If I uninstall MAPS.ME from my phone, will OSMAND automatically
> open/import KLM data?
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 1:18:16 PM UTC-4, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>>
>> Have a look at the file favourites.xml in OSMAND data folder.
>> You have to extend this file with entries like, where you have to modify
>> lat / lon,
>> the name tag, the type tag and the color tag.
>> Mind to insert your entries before the final
>>  tag.
>>
>>
>> 
>>  "Great Dixter House" 
>> Name of my Collection
>> 
>>   #f08c00
>> 
>>   
>>
>> Boris Feldblyum  schrieb am Mo., 27. Mai 2019,
>> 15:36:
>>
>>>
>>> I am planning a trip across several states (US) and would like to make a
>>> list, with street addresses of sites to see. Is it possible to import the
>>> list into OSMAND? As one layer? As one layer per state?
>>> Thank you!
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Re: Is it possible to import a list of POI from a spreadsheet?

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Have a look at the file favourites.xml in OSMAND data folder.
You have to extend this file with entries like, where you have to modify
lat / lon,
the name tag, the type tag and the color tag.
Mind to insert your entries before the final
 tag.



 "Great Dixter House" 
Name of my Collection

  #f08c00

  

Boris Feldblyum  schrieb am Mo., 27. Mai 2019,
15:36:

>
> I am planning a trip across several states (US) and would like to make a
> list, with street addresses of sites to see. Is it possible to import the
> list into OSMAND? As one layer? As one layer per state?
> Thank you!
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Re: GPS Coordinates? How to find.

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You can use the Android app "maps coordinates".
This app seems to use the Google server.
It can export the coordinates to the clip stack.

Akkana Peck  schrieb am So., 26. Mai 2019, 23:06:

> Tom Norton writes:
> > I was wondering what way to locate GPS coordinates for an address? I
> know that OSM does not have every address available but I was thinking if I
> could use GPS coordinates this would help us on our cycling tour.
> > Thank!
> > Currently in Estonia cycling!
>
> It depends on the country. In Estonia, the OpenStreetMap Nominatim
> thing might work. For the US, OSM tends not to have street
> addresses. Google Maps used to have a free API, but like so many
> Google APIs it disappeared without a replacement. The best I've
> found for the US in recent years is from the Census bureau,
> https://geocoding.geo.census.gov/geocoder/locations/onelineaddress
>
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Re: My Places - how to sort them

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Many thanks!
Though, it's no good news,
Helmut

Bart Eisenberg  schrieb am Sa., 25. Mai 2019,
23:08:

> Viewing them in My places >Favorites, I don't think there's a way to view
> them by distance.  But if you press the Directions button (the one with the
> arrow) and then either My Position or Select Destination > Favorites, that
> option is available in the upper right.
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-7, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I have more than a hundred favourites, lots of them being several
>> hundred kilometers apart. Is there a means to sort the list according to
>> the distance to the current position.
>> Many thanks for a hint,
>> Helmut
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My Places - how to sort them

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Hi, I have more than a hundred favourites, lots of them being several hundred 
kilometers apart. Is there a means to sort the list according to the distance 
to the current position.
Many thanks for a hint, 
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Re: My Places - how to sort them

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Many thanks for this hint.
The only thing I don't like about OSMAND are these hidden menus.
Helmut

'Harald R.' via Osmand  schrieb am So., 9. Juni
2019, 16:34:

> If you go into the navigation menu and hit the "+" sign behind "Ziel"
> (German version) you will find a list with options.
> Among those is favourites. If you press this button you get a list of your
> favourites sorted according to the distance from the starting point.
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Re: Problem mit SD-Karte

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Einstellungen - > Allgemeine - > Datenordner
/storage/-/Android/data/net.osmand.plus/files

Ich 16 GB Karten, soviel wie mein leerer interner Speicher hat.

Christoph Rüegg  schrieb am Mo., 13. Mai 2019, 17:28:

> Ich benutze Osmand+ auf meinem Samsung A5 (2017). In den Einstellungen der
> App habe ich den Speicher auf die externe SD-Karte gestellt. Trotzdem
> werden Karten auf den internen Speicher geladen. Was muss ich tun, damit
> die Speicherung auf die SD-Karte erfolgt (und natürlich nachher die Karten
> normal angezeigt werden?
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Re: No contour lines for France

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I don't know. But there are contour lines for each of the 13 parts of
France.
I do have contour lines for those parts I have installed (I don't have all
of France installed here)

'Markus' via Osmand  schrieb am Fr., 17. Mai 2019,
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> Hi,
>
> I wanted to download the contour lines for France, but there are non. Is
> there any reason for this?
>
> Regards
> Markus
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Re: OsmAnd+ Polish maps updates

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Have a look at
https://osmand.net/list.php
The map for all of Poland is still at March 1st but the regional maps are
the most recent (May 1st)


Tomek Malinowski  schrieb am Mo., 20. Mai 2019, 11:06:

> Hi
> I have OsmAnd+ apiction and I should update maps once at month. For now, I
> have  March updates in map file.
> When will be next updates?
> What should i do to download May Updates ?
>
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Re: What's up with map updates?

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Are there any ongoing efforts to rewrite the software to create the maps in
C++?
I would expect a significant speedup on multicore processors.

'Xavier' via Osmand  schrieb am Do., 4. Juli 2019,
20:56:

> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 02:14:21PM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
> >
> >I also don't understand why people are so upset about monthly updates
> >being 10-20 days behind the end of the month.  Yes, the next day would
> >be better, but 1) it's so much faster than any non-OSM approach
>
> If I remember correctly, back when I had a TomTom, the map updates from
> TomTom were available either on a 6 month cycle or yearly cycle.
>
> OsmAnd monthly updates, even if they don't arrive until the 10th of the
> month, are already either six or twelve times more frequent than what
> TomTom provided.
>
> I don't know what cycle TomTom is on now, as I switched to OsmAnd when
> TomTom decided to drop support for my old navigator.
>
> > and 2) with osmand live, it matters very little.  Even without
> >osmandlive, having map data that's between 20 and 50 days old at any
> >point isn't much worse than having data that's between 5 and 35.
>
> 20-50 days old seems better than 180 or 365 days old (and of course
> with TomTom one had to pay per update or 'subscribe' to a limited
> number of updates).
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Re: Turning off screen automatically

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If you set the 'time' to never you switch off this feature.

M U  schrieb am Fr., 12. Juli 2019, 14:52:

> W dniu 2019-07-12 o 13:30, Ken pisze:
> > Just received official 3.4.2 update today. Now have screen on/off option
> back again.
> >
> Is it really an option? Are you able to set it on or off?
>
> In my walking profile I see blue title "Turn screen on" and black
> description "Turn on device screen...". No way to enable or disable turn
> behaviour.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: Okay here is a question!

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Yes of course. It has to process the GPS signal and update its position.
But, on any smartphone the screen consumes much more battery.

Tom Norton  schrieb am Sa., 13. Juli 2019, 19:33:

> We are currently cycling across Europe. I use Osmand at different times
> during the day while my wife has a Garmin on her bike.
> If I leave Osmand loaded and turn the screen off,not turning off the
> phone, will it still drain the battery?
> Thanks!
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Re: Turning off screen automatically

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This happened to me when my phone was connected to power e.g. in my car.

Andy Henderson  schrieb am Fr., 12. Juli
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> Just tried using this feature on a ride and the screen turned on just fine
> but it wouldn't turn off. Tried 10seconds, 5seconds and none (which
> deactivated). Also tried with proximity detection on and off. No luck,
> screen just wouldn't switch off again. Anyone else see this? Any
> suggestions?
>
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Re: Okay here is a question!

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Yes, especially on devices using organic LED displays like Samsung devices.

Gavin Meredith  schrieb am So., 14. Juli 2019,
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> I use Osmand for turn-by-turn instructions when cycling. Every now and
> again I turn on the screen. Does Osmand use less battery in night mode (
> with its darker colours)
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Re: 3.4.0 I'm very disappointed

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Many thanks for this goog news!

Dmitriy Prodchenko  schrieb am Mo., 1. Juli 2019, 12:21:

> Hello! We are currently working on Turn Screen On option, our first
> thought was to implement in the standalone plugin to use "Device admin"
> permission, but recently we investigate that we could implement it without
> "Device admin".
> I think we add it to the 3.4 release soon.
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Re: Can't start navigation, too far from nearest roaf

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That's strange.
Just try to change
Settings - > Navigation Settings
There select a profile and change the
'stay on road' setting.


Erik Eti Smit  schrieb am So., 30. Juni 2019, 12:59:

> I just installed Osmand, but  I can't use navigation. I am in a town, the
> map shows my exact location, but all I am getting is 'can't start
> navigation. Too far from nearest road'. Apparently, navigation can't see
> the roads that are on the map. What can I do?
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Re: Can't start navigation, too far from nearest roaf

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If you can install an additional (external) SD card, OSMAnd can put its
offline maps there.

Pere Pujal i Carabantes  schrieb am Mo., 1. Juli 2019,
11:10:

> for cycle there is also brouter , I've seen people using osmand + brouter,
> don't know the current state...
>
> El 1 de juliol de 2019 11:02:15 CEST, Erik Eti Smit 
> ha escrit:
>>
>> That one makes me choose between offline or 'only car', and I want to use
>> a bike... so I'll guess I have to download after all. Don't know if my
>> phone is up to that...
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 2:39:36 AM UTC+2, Pere Pujal i Carabantes
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El 1 de juliol de 2019 2:04:48 CEST, Erik Eti Smit 
>>> ha escrit:
>>> >Thanks. HOw do I use the OSMR service? I have 'online maps' set to
>>> >Enabled,
>>> >but that's probably not enough? I can't find a setting that says
>>> >'osmr'.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 12:55:03 AM UTC+2, Pere Pujal i Carabantes
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> It can work both, offline with the osmand service or online with the
>>> >osmr
>>> >> service.
>>> >> The ofline osmand service is the default and it needs downloaded
>>> >maps, you
>>> >> could set osmand to use the OSMR online service, wich doean't need
>>> >> downloaded maps and works online in
>>> >> configuration->car|cicle|bike|--->navigation service.
>>>
>>> Sorry, should be
>>> Configuration->Navigation->select vehicle->navigation service(the first
>>> entry)
>>>
>>> The spell may be different as I am translating to English from my
>>> language(Catalan)
>>>
>>> >> HTH
>>> >> Pere
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>>> >> brevetat.
>>>
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Re: And It Is "Turn on screen when approaching a Turn"

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How did you manage to get the menu point shown in the appended image?
I have installed the nightly built OSMAND but this menu point is greyed
out.
Thanks for a hint, Helmut

Mirco Zorzo  schrieb am So., 7. Juli 2019, 16:36:

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Re: Contour lines plugin

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Just reinstall it from Google Play - they won't require you to pay for it
again.
Or if your phone is rooted and you make backups with Titanium you can
reinstall it from there.
Helmut

 schrieb am Di., 23. Apr. 2019, 12:10:

> Hello,  I have purchased Contour lines plugin. How can I restore this
> plugin if I reinstall application?
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Re: Add labels to gpx points

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Go to settings -> MyPlaces -> Tracks
Then click the three vertical points next to your track and select "show on
map".

Michael Otieno  schrieb am Di., 2. Juli 2019, 09:49:

> Hi there? I am fairly new at using OSMand. Is there a way one can be able
> to display gpx point labels on OSMand? Take for instance labelling the
> unique ID field from the gpx points. Thank you all in advance
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3.4.0 I'm very disappointed

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I'm very disappointed that the 'turn screen on' pull request didn't make it 
into 3.4.0.
That would have been the most important new feature. 
Even if it isn't not rock stable, yet, most of us would be happy to test it. 
Or do the developes kiss the ground before Google? 

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Re: How is OSMAND map updated?

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Since the updates are usually huge (16 GB for me) I use the update function
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jan  schrieb am So., 18. Aug. 2019, 11:30:

> Ok... if I press UPDATES... what is happen with my download quota... does
> it decrease?
>
> Op zaterdag 17 augustus 2019 20:55:27 UTC+2 schreef jan:
>>
>> HI,
>>
>> I've OSMAND on mobile phone installed with map of The Netherlands.
>> Is that map being updated since installation or. must I download a
>> map of The Nertherlands again to get te updates of that map?
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two contour lines updates fail to load

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Currently I have the same problem with Italy/Trentino.
It looks like an incompatiblity between the map and the contour lines. 
If I delete the map I can update the contour lines. But then I cannot install 
an up-to-date map. If I then remove the contour lines I can install an 
up-to-date map for that region.
I don't know if this is an OSMAnd or an OSM problem? 

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Re: Difficulty importing GPX file

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If you have difficulties with changing anything (renaming or replacing a
file) somewhere on the external SD-card that hasn't anything to do with
OSMAnd.
You might try a different file manager like FX or Total Commander on your
Android device. I have never had any problems that OSMAnd uses this new
version of favourites.xml nearly immediately after restarting OSMAnd. You
might try to clear the cache if OSMAnd before starting it.
Helmut
P.S. I wish OSMAnd would allow several files of favourites, e.g. in a
dedicated subfolder though.

gNeandr  schrieb am Di., 28. Aug. 2018, 21:39:

> @Bart
> Yr post is the "nearest" answer to my general question how to
> export/edit/re-import gpx file(s). I was trying this with limited success.
> Here are my "open" points .. and I hope you (or someone else) can help with
> a general attempt.
>
> I'm using
> -- OSMAND+ 3.1.5  on Android 8.0.0
> -- Linux/Mint 19 (Tara)
>
> To download the .gpx files (like favorites.gpx) there is no problem. And
> with the hard way to edit the .pgx file using an editor (atom) is OK also.
> To upload that edited file back to OSMAND+ installation seems to be a
> problem. If the name is different like 'favorites1.gpx' it's shown in the
> Android directory, also opening the file in external program like 'GPX
> Viewer' (vers. 1.29.8) is OK, the favorites are shown on a google maps.
>
> The problem is to "replace" or overwrite the normal favorites.gpx file.
> -- to upload it with the Android/Linux cable link, also no error msg, the
> file isn't changed on the Android.
> -- renaming with using the link from Linux or also on Android with a file
> manager fails.
> (with Android: SD-Card --> Eigene Dateien -> Android -> data ->
> net.osmand.plus -> files -> favorites.gpx)
>
> There is reported OSMAND holds the user/app data also at some other
> places, but those infos seems to be (very) old, so I'm not sure what are
> the true right locations. Probably the location is the primary problem? Any
> help for that?
>
> Last not least, what is the best way to edit the favorite and track gpx
> data. What are the "experts" using?
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 4:44:05 PM UTC+2, Bart Eisenberg wrote:
>>
>> I've successfully imported points and names from KMLs created in Google
>> My Maps and converted to GPXs, then displayed on OsmAnd using My Places.
>> And I've done the same using Viking
>>  GPX.  So I'm wondering if
>> the problem is that the name data is not in your GPX itself or is not
>> formatted in a way OsmAnd expects.
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Favorites : edit coordinates ?

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Hi,
I haven't found a way to edit (change) the coordinates of a saved favorite.
Typical application:
Sometimes OSMAnd doesn't know the location of an (exact) address.
Having found that by Google Maps I'd like to change the stored coordinates.
Is this possible?

I know a workaround is to find the coordinates and save the location as a 
new favorite.

Many thanks for a hint,
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Re: How to revert a "avoid this street"

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It's like a traffic sign (red bordered triangle) on the map at the position
you have blocked. Long press it to get the menu to delete it.


Danny Schneider  schrieb am Mo., 2. Sep. 2019,
07:26:

>
> OK, But where is this  triangular avoid-road marker? I do not see
> something like this
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Re: Contour Lines : change color

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Thanks, that helped a bit. I chose dark brown which is better visible,
Helmut

Pere Pujal i Carabantes  schrieb am Do., 5. Sep. 2019,
19:25:

>
>
> El 5 de setembre de 2019 17:07:04 CEST, Helmut Jarausch <
> hjarau...@gmail.com> ha escrit:
> >In a typical daylight setting, contour lines are hardly visible.
> >Is it possible to change the color and/or intensity of contour lines?
>
> In configure map -> contour lines
>
>
>
> >Many thanks for a hint,
> >Helmut
> >
> >Bart Eisenberg  schrieb am Mi., 4. Sep. 2019,
> >16:13:
> >
> >> In the Android version, there's an option called "Calculate the route
> >> between points" that attempts to do as you describe. But that option
> >isn't
> >> available in the iOS version. Version 3.0 was just released, but from
> >the
> >> description, I don't see either feature (saving a route to a GPX or
> >the
> >> workaround) implemented there either.
> >> On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 6:53:13 AM UTC-7, HH P wrote:
> >>>
> >>> However, there is another function.
> >>> My Places -> Trips -> Create new trip.
> >>> There you can set waypoints.
> >>> After saving, a GPX file is created.
> >>> In the  Vavigation menu item you can choose the file as GPX route.
> >>> Unfortunately, no route is calculated from the individual waypoints.
> >Am I doing something wrong? Have you ever tested this feature?
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Re: Camp sites not showing up in POI list, present on one S5 device but not another S5

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Perhaps it helps to clear the cache?

OSM_usr  schrieb am Mi., 31. Juli 2019, 23:33:

> Subject says it all... I have 2 identical phones, but one phone allows me
> to select "Camp site" from the list of POI's, while the other phone is
> simply missing this entry.
>
> I've updated both phones so they're (theoretically) both the same version,
> but I'm still not seeing the option in one of them...
>
> It's entirely possible I'm missing some bloody obvious, or not so obvious
> way of selecting it, but if that's the case then maybe it's not so obvious.
>
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Re: Slow loading all of a sudden!

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Check that in general settings the "failsafe mode" is unchecked.
I has this on one of my devices recently and I don't know when and how this
got set.

Tom Norton  schrieb am Mi., 31. Juli 2019, 20:34:

> Currently on tour in western Germany and tonight as  review our route my
> downloaded maps are all of a sudden downloading very ,very slowly.
> Thoughts??
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Re: Keine Deutsche Sprachausgabe

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Ich empfehle die folgenden 2 Schritte :
1.) Gehe zu Kartenverwaltung, LOKAL und scrolle ganz runter zu
Sprachansagen und prüfe, welche Sprachen installiert sind (grün)
2.) Aktiviere die Erweiterung OSMAND-Entwicklung. Gehe dann zu
Einstellungen OsmAnd-Entwicklung. Scrolle ganz runter zu Sprachansagen
testen


'womisa' via Osmand  schrieb am Sa., 20. Juli
2019, 08:51:

> Hallo
>
> ich habe ein Huawei P smart 2019 mit der Android Version 9. Wenn ich unter
> Stimme---> Sprachansage-->TTS Sprachansage Deutsch auswähle bekomme ich
> keine Ansage.
> Seltsamerweise kommt eine Ansage wenn ich English auswähle.
>
> Kan mir da jemand helfen?
>
> Vielen Dank
> Achim
>
> Ps.: Spanisch etc. geht auch nicht nur englisch
>
> Google:
>
> Hello
>
> I have a Huawei P smart 2019 with the Android version 9. If I select Voice
> under voice ---> voice prompt -> TTS voice announcement German, I get no
> announcement.
> Strangely, an announcement comes when I select English.
>
> Can someone help me there?
>
> Many Thanks
> Achim
>
> Ps .: Spanish etc. is not only English
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Re: Keine Deutsche Sprachausgabe

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Funktioniert die deutsche Sprache überhaupt.?
Du kannst z. B. den Microsoft Übersetzer installieren und dort die
Sprachausgabe testen. Musst du vielleicht die Google Text-to-Speech engine
installieren?





'womisa' via Osmand  schrieb am Sa., 20. Juli
2019, 12:07:

> *Vielen Dank für die Tipps:*
> *zu 1.) Deutsch 19.07.2019 ist grün*
> *zu 2.) a) Auswahl en-tts  Meldungen können angeglickt werden und
> Sprachausgabe in englisch geht*
> * b) Auswahl  de-tts **Meldungen können angeglickt werden und
> Sprachausgabe "GEHT NICHT"*
>
> *Ich habe Osmand 3.4.4. Das war aber auch schon bei 3.3.3 schon so,
> deshalb habe ich abgedated... Ich bin neu in OSMAND*
>
>
> *Weitere Tipps?*
>
> Am Samstag, 20. Juli 2019 11:25:16 UTC+2 schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
>>
>> Ich empfehle die folgenden 2 Schritte :
>> 1.) Gehe zu Kartenverwaltung, LOKAL und scrolle ganz runter zu
>> Sprachansagen und prüfe, welche Sprachen installiert sind (grün)
>> 2.) Aktiviere die Erweiterung OSMAND-Entwicklung. Gehe dann zu
>> Einstellungen OsmAnd-Entwicklung. Scrolle ganz runter zu Sprachansagen
>> testen
>>
>>
>> 'womisa' via Osmand  schrieb am Sa., 20. Juli
>> 2019, 08:51:
>>
>>> Hallo
>>>
>>> ich habe ein Huawei P smart 2019 mit der Android Version 9. Wenn ich
>>> unter Stimme---> Sprachansage-->TTS Sprachansage Deutsch auswähle bekomme
>>> ich keine Ansage.
>>> Seltsamerweise kommt eine Ansage wenn ich English auswähle.
>>>
>>> Kan mir da jemand helfen?
>>>
>>> Vielen Dank
>>> Achim
>>>
>>> Ps.: Spanisch etc. geht auch nicht nur englisch
>>>
>>> Google:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I have a Huawei P smart 2019 with the Android version 9. If I select
>>> Voice under voice ---> voice prompt -> TTS voice announcement German, I get
>>> no announcement.
>>> Strangely, an announcement comes when I select English.
>>>
>>> Can someone help me there?
>>>
>>> Many Thanks
>>> Achim
>>>
>>> Ps .: Spanish etc. is not only English
>>>
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Re: cannot get maps on sd-card, cannot find them anywhere at all even though they work

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Hi, first find the file name of a map you have installed - see
https://osmand.net/list.php
but remove the .zip suffix.
Then start a file manager app (like Amaze which I like best for searching)
and search for that file

'ra' via Osmand  schrieb am Mi., 17. Juli 2019,
16:21:

> even though in osmand the sd-card was set to be the place for maps I found
> them internally. I changed the place and osmand offered to move the maps,
> which it did one by one. since then I cannot find them anywhere, neither
> connected to a pc nor on the phone. but the tool "treesize" shows they are
> there, without being able to show them individually as before. however,
> osmand seems to see them and shows green coverage. however, it is annoying
> that manually I NEVER achieve to indicate the place as the card as well as
> the internal storage wear internal names invisible from the outside,
> different from what I see in the explorer.
>
> at the moment osmand names the place of storage is
> "/data/user/0/net.osmand.plus/no_backup" - but this place cannot be found.
> AT NO PLACE maps are indicated - although they work. so strange. how can I
> get the maps onto my sd-card, best without downloading them again (living
> in the german countryside this takes quite a while ...). hints very much
> welcome!
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Keyboard(soft) when entering coordinates

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I often paste a coordinates pair into the Lat as well as the Lon field when 
searching for a place by its coordinates - so I have to edit these after 
pasting. 
The soft keyboard which pops up doesn't have cursor keys. Is this configurable? 

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Re: Turning off screen automatically

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It does work just fine!
Congratulations and many, many thanks to the developers.
I have just one question about it.
In settings -> Navigation -> walking(e.g.)-> activate screen/time
what is the meaning of 'never'?
It looks like this means 'do not turn the screen off at all'
At least, when my phone was connected to the power supply in my car, the
screen stayed on all the time with this setting.
Can anyone confirm that?
Thanks, Helmut

Torek Borek  schrieb am Di., 9. Juli 2019, 00:13:

> Probably ready - merged 2 days ago.
> Who know when we can except the official update of the apk in f-droid?
>
> W dniu poniedziałek, 17 czerwca 2019 23:47:29 UTC+2 użytkownik P Wat
> napisał:
>>
>> Harry - Thanks for that. As it might be nearly ready, I'll wait.
>> Probably better (for me) to cope without it for a few more days.  -  PW
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 9:15:32 AM UTC+1, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, the solution is in that code: ready or not.
>>> One of the Devs is working on it. It is still  work in progress, but
>>> based on the fact that he wants to integrate the changes from his branch
>>> into the main branch, seems to me that he is "almost there".
>>> Of course it needs testing. Note that every branch is a 100% copy of the
>>> main branch,  so you could technically download his repository, build it
>>> and test it.
>>>
>>> The fact that Victor does not have it merged yet, might mean that the
>>> plugin is not mature enough yet.
>>> Or maybe this plugin development  is ready, but the main team might be
>>> doing some big restructuring of or change in the main branch, so this
>>> specific development (branch) has to wait for the main branch to be
>>> finished.
>>> The code of OsmAnd is huge and really complicated.
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Op ma 17 jun. 2019 om 09:00 schreef 'P Wat' via Osmand <
>>> osm...@googlegroups.com>:
>>>
 Hi.
 Thanks for the feedback.
 Is the solution in the source you sent?  I am confused and cant see it.
 PW

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Re: Using Google maps to connect to a location in, 'Osmand'

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The following works:
In Google maps right click on the location. A pull down menu appears.
Click on "what is here"
Google displays the coordinates at the bottom of the page.
Now in OSMAND enter
Search, address, coordinates and enter these values there. You may safe the
point as a favorite.

alpine14011970  schrieb am Do., 12. Dez. 2019,
05:37:

> Is it possible to use Google maps to find a location, for instance on a
> map where there is no English overlay and send that co-ordinate or
> something to Osmand maps easily?
>
> Thank you!
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Re: Navigation profiles not working?

[Helmut Jarausch]

Harry, thank you very much for your detailed description. It took some time
to understand the mechanism. And, as always, the option to select this new
routing profile was a bit hidden.
One last question: is it even possible to assign a new icon to my new
profile.
Currently, both the standard car profile and my Car15 profile use the "car
icon" and can't be distinguished at first glance.
Thanks again,
Helmut

Harry van der Wolf  schrieb am Fr., 25. Okt. 2019, 19:52:

> You have two options:
> 1. Create a simple one direct from the Settings
> 2. Modify the existing routing profile for car/bike/pedestrian and use
> that as "custom" profile, again via the Settings.
>
> 
> 1. Create a profile directly from the settings:
> Settings -> Application profiles.
> You see a number of profiles and the button Add.
> You select one of the existing "base profiles, give it a new name, and
> start modifying.
>
> This is just "play & learn". You could create a profile for a camper or
> old-timer by simply only reducing the max speed. Or a "touristic profile"
> by disabling motorways and toll roads.
>
>
> 
> 2. Modify the existing routing profile (Extract a sub profile)
> If you have an up-to-date OsmAnd, you can simply download the routing.xml
> from github from the osmand-resources
> <https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd-resources> repository:  routing.xml
> <https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd-resources/blob/master/routing/routing.xml>
>
> Explaining all the settings in this routing.xml is something I will not
> do. That takes a complete tutorial and a lot of the options are explained
> in a summarized way. I created a few on the Car profile by simply
> extracting that one from the complete routing.xml (with the header data
> above it).
>
> OsmAnd uses the A* "shortest path" algorithm to calculate routes (Google
> for it). In OsmAnd the heuristic coefficient (Google for it) is 1.0. This
> means that ALL possible roads are examined. This means that it is slooow
> and uses an awful lot of memory.
> I have attached 3 profiles: mycar15.xml, mycar13.xml and caravan.xml.
> Please have a look at them if you want to learn from it. They are
> certainly not meant as perfect examples: absolutely not. They work fine for
> me and should give you an insight in what can be done.
>
> The mycar15.xml and mycar13.xml is 100% the CAR profile but with an
> heuristic_coefficient of 1.5 and 1.3 respectively. On long routes this
> creates the same routes, but now for 1000+ kms in a fraction of the time.
> On shorter routes with a lot of possible roads, like in cities, it means
> that the calculated route might be slightly less optimal. A lot of
> navigation apps us a heuristic factor between 1.3 and 1.6
>
> The carvan.xml is a CAR routing with  heuristic Coefficient of 1.3, a
> reduced max speed of 90,  a higher priority for motorways and a reduced
> priority for small roads.
>
> These profiles can be copied into
> Android/data/net.osmand(.plus)/files/routing.
> Now when you want to create a profile based on these files, you go again
> in Settings->Application profiles.
> Select CAR profile. On the next page you give it a name.
> Select from "Navigation type", your created profile(s).
> And continue.
>
> some links:
> https://theory.stanford.edu/~amitp/GameProgramming/Heuristics.html
> in German: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/A*-Algorithmus  (Assuming you
> are German/Austrian/Swiss)
>
>
> Harry
>
>
> Op do 24 okt. 2019 om 20:40 schreef Helmut Jarausch :
>
>> How can one configure different routing parameters for different profiles?
>> Many thanks for a hint,
>> Helmut
>>
>> Harry van der Wolf  schrieb am Fr., 18. Okt. 2019,
>> 18:53:
>>
>>> I have an 2 extra car (one with a heuristic coeficient of 1.5* and a
>>> "slow" one) and an extra caravan profile and they work fine. Both in
>>> calculating alternative routes and in the time to travel that route (when
>>> using a route that is equal for all).
>>>
>>> Can you share your profile here?
>>> You can find it in Android/data/net.osmand(.plus)/files/routing
>>>
>>> *:OsmAnd still has issues calculating long routes. When using an HC=1.5,
>>> I can simply calculate routes over 1500 km, where 1450~1475 km is over
>>> motorways anyway, so the normal calculation (slow) and my calculation
>>> still deliver the same route.
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> Op vr 18 okt. 2019 om 17:53 schreef David :
>>>
>>>> I programmed a extra profile for navigation.
>>>> For my motorhome I set minimum 

Re: Navigation profiles not working?

[Helmut Jarausch]

I've just discovered that I can change the colour of the icon which is
sufficient to me.

Helmut Jarausch  schrieb am So., 27. Okt. 2019, 13:55:

> Harry, thank you very much for your detailed description. It took some
> time to understand the mechanism. And, as always, the option to select this
> new routing profile was a bit hidden.
> One last question: is it even possible to assign a new icon to my new
> profile.
> Currently, both the standard car profile and my Car15 profile use the "car
> icon" and can't be distinguished at first glance.
> Thanks again,
> Helmut
>
> Harry van der Wolf  schrieb am Fr., 25. Okt. 2019,
> 19:52:
>
>> You have two options:
>> 1. Create a simple one direct from the Settings
>> 2. Modify the existing routing profile for car/bike/pedestrian and use
>> that as "custom" profile, again via the Settings.
>>
>> 
>> 1. Create a profile directly from the settings:
>> Settings -> Application profiles.
>> You see a number of profiles and the button Add.
>> You select one of the existing "base profiles, give it a new name, and
>> start modifying.
>>
>> This is just "play & learn". You could create a profile for a camper or
>> old-timer by simply only reducing the max speed. Or a "touristic profile"
>> by disabling motorways and toll roads.
>>
>>
>> 
>> 2. Modify the existing routing profile (Extract a sub profile)
>> If you have an up-to-date OsmAnd, you can simply download the routing.xml
>> from github from the osmand-resources
>> <https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd-resources> repository:  routing.xml
>> <https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd-resources/blob/master/routing/routing.xml>
>>
>> Explaining all the settings in this routing.xml is something I will not
>> do. That takes a complete tutorial and a lot of the options are explained
>> in a summarized way. I created a few on the Car profile by simply
>> extracting that one from the complete routing.xml (with the header data
>> above it).
>>
>> OsmAnd uses the A* "shortest path" algorithm to calculate routes (Google
>> for it). In OsmAnd the heuristic coefficient (Google for it) is 1.0. This
>> means that ALL possible roads are examined. This means that it is slooow
>> and uses an awful lot of memory.
>> I have attached 3 profiles: mycar15.xml, mycar13.xml and caravan.xml.
>> Please have a look at them if you want to learn from it. They are
>> certainly not meant as perfect examples: absolutely not. They work fine for
>> me and should give you an insight in what can be done.
>>
>> The mycar15.xml and mycar13.xml is 100% the CAR profile but with an
>> heuristic_coefficient of 1.5 and 1.3 respectively. On long routes this
>> creates the same routes, but now for 1000+ kms in a fraction of the time.
>> On shorter routes with a lot of possible roads, like in cities, it means
>> that the calculated route might be slightly less optimal. A lot of
>> navigation apps us a heuristic factor between 1.3 and 1.6
>>
>> The carvan.xml is a CAR routing with  heuristic Coefficient of 1.3, a
>> reduced max speed of 90,  a higher priority for motorways and a reduced
>> priority for small roads.
>>
>> These profiles can be copied into
>> Android/data/net.osmand(.plus)/files/routing.
>> Now when you want to create a profile based on these files, you go again
>> in Settings->Application profiles.
>> Select CAR profile. On the next page you give it a name.
>> Select from "Navigation type", your created profile(s).
>> And continue.
>>
>> some links:
>> https://theory.stanford.edu/~amitp/GameProgramming/Heuristics.html
>> in German: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/A*-Algorithmus  (Assuming you
>> are German/Austrian/Swiss)
>>
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> Op do 24 okt. 2019 om 20:40 schreef Helmut Jarausch > >:
>>
>>> How can one configure different routing parameters for different
>>> profiles?
>>> Many thanks for a hint,
>>> Helmut
>>>
>>> Harry van der Wolf  schrieb am Fr., 18. Okt. 2019,
>>> 18:53:
>>>
>>>> I have an 2 extra car (one with a heuristic coeficient of 1.5* and a
>>>> "slow" one) and an extra caravan profile and they work fine. Both in
>>>> calculating alternative routes and in the time to travel that route (when
>>>> using a route that is equal for all).
>>>>
>>>> Can you share your profile here?
>>>> You can find it in Android/data/n

Re: Navigation profiles not working?

[Helmut Jarausch]

How can one configure different routing parameters for different profiles?
Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut

Harry van der Wolf  schrieb am Fr., 18. Okt. 2019, 18:53:

> I have an 2 extra car (one with a heuristic coeficient of 1.5* and a
> "slow" one) and an extra caravan profile and they work fine. Both in
> calculating alternative routes and in the time to travel that route (when
> using a route that is equal for all).
>
> Can you share your profile here?
> You can find it in Android/data/net.osmand(.plus)/files/routing
>
> *:OsmAnd still has issues calculating long routes. When using an HC=1.5, I
> can simply calculate routes over 1500 km, where 1450~1475 km is over
> motorways anyway, so the normal calculation (slow) and my calculation
> still deliver the same route.
>
> Harry
>
> Op vr 18 okt. 2019 om 17:53 schreef David :
>
>> I programmed a extra profile for navigation.
>> For my motorhome I set minimum speed on 10 km/hr. Normal speed on 33
>> km/hr. Max speed on 100 km/hr. All way lower then the normal car settings.
>> On a 2250 km roadtrip Osmand calculates a minnimal difference !!With the
>> slower motorhome having the lowest amount of driving hours!!
>> Ideas annyone?
>>
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Strange Routing

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi, I don't understand the routing of OSMAnd. I have the following
situation:

D  x   I

 O

I want to drive from O via I to D.
There is a highway connecting D, x and I.
OSMAnd suggests to drive from O to x to I (and back to x and D)
This takes 2 hours and 2 minutes.
Inserting an additional intermediate point on a country road between O and
I gives a much shorter route of only 1 hour and 45 minutes.
This is all with the standard car routing.
Can anybody understand OSMAnds routing here.
I have seen the car profile has "prefer highways" option which can't be
turned off.
How to teach OSMAnd to calculate the shortest (w.r.t time) route?
Many thanks for a hint
Helmut

If someone wants to try it himself here are the coordinates
D : 50.80729° N, 6.17105° E
I  : 51.22824° N, 7.20733° E
O : 51.16853° N, 7.08233° E
additional intermediate point : 51.20348° N, 7.16982° E
One needs the map of Germany (Nordrhein-Westfalen)

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Re: Route calculation never comes to end

[Helmut Jarausch]

I can confirm that problem.
I've tried "Magic Earth" which uses OSM maps, as well. It has no problems
computing the route.
When going by car I do prefer Magic Earth since it uses very few bandwidth
and the traffic information is in real time and extremely precise. It
reroutes automatically if the planned route is blocked or has a very long
delay.

'hike39' via Osmand  schrieb am Fr., 20. Dez.
2019, 11:31:

> Starting Point was the service station ARAL near Weyarn,Germany (47.86413
> 11.79666).
> Destination: Ansbacherstraße 21, Rothenburg ob der Tauber, Germany
> (49.37593 10.18745)
>
> Options:
> - patrol saving route
> - no ice piste or fording
>
>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: direction?

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Just create a new profile from airplane standard profile.
It does exactly what you want.
(I've tried it with the build from today)

vzteklik  schrieb am Di., 11. Feb. 2020, 20:45:

> Understood.
>
> But is there a way to choose while setting up a navigation between 'use
> the roads/map' and 'just show the direction' while not changing the
> profile? Similar like you are choosing to avoid certain roads, fastest or
> economic etc...?
>
> I have been using it in the Sahara desert navigating to a certain
> coordinates and was not interested in sticking to any roads, only in
> direction - my old Garmin can do it with two button clicks. Similarly I
> quite like to just know that in this direction is my destination and find a
> way to get there myself - on- or off-road does not matter - walk or drive.
> Just for the fun of it. So I'm trying to find a way to do so. Changing
> profiles is of course possible (now that I know of it), but I would need to
> have two profiles per type of transport one set to direction and one for
> the road and twice set up the map look :-(
>
> V.
>
>
>
> -- Původní zpráva --
> Od: "Massimo Mula" 
> Komu: osmand@googlegroups.com
> Odesláno: 11/02/2020 01:02:10
> Předmět: Re: direction?
>
> Actually, OsmAnd implements different navigation modes and presents them
> to the user as "profiles": you can also create your own, if you are not
> satisfied with the provided ones, by "mixing" the features you like: just
> check menu *Settings -> Manage app profiles -> (+ Add)* button.
>
> Best things,
> Max
>
>
>
> Il Lun 10 Feb 2020, 13:20 vzteklik  ha scritto:
>
>>
>> Great! Thank you, that seems to do the trick ;-)
>>
>> How does the airplane mode does it? In ideal world I would like to use
>> this navigation method on request in pedestrian mode (where my map is
>> already configured to the desired look).
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> -- Původní zpráva --
>> Od: "Roberto Petitpas" 
>> Komu: osmand@googlegroups.com
>> Odesláno: 08/02/2020 17:11:12
>> Předmět: Re: direction?
>>
>> Use the airplane profile.
>>
>> El sáb., 8 de febrero de 2020 08:20, vzteklik 
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm sure I'm overlooking something somewhere, but how can I make Osmand
>>> to show the direction to the destination point as a straight line
>>> regardless of the roads, tracks or anything? Is it possible? I still can't
>>> figure it out...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> V.
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Re: Version numbers?

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Thanks for the info,
Helmut

Dmitry Prodchenko  schrieb am Di., 25. Feb. 2020, 14:58:

> Hello, Helmut!
> The latest stable version is always released in Google Play or Amazon.
> Nightly version is more recent, the number doesn't change yet.
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Re: Route planning on PC, download whole country maps, maximum number of waypoints

[Helmut Jarausch]

You can use any software which can create a list of waypoints which can be
exported - preferably as GPX file.
This file can be put onto your mobile, then you can navigate along this GPX
track.
If you have multiple intermediate points the computation of a route doesn't
pose any problems.
I have had problems only when the distance between two adjacent stops is
500 km or more.
The paid version can download as many maps as your mobile can store.
For all of Germany plus Denmark you will probably need about 6 Gb storage.
If your mobile can use an external SD card you have no problems. I've just
bought a very good and fast card with a capacity of 128 Gb for about 20
Euro.
For navigating by car I use Magic Earth in addition since it monitors
traffic jams in real time and changes your route accordingly. Unfortunately
this feature won't ever come to OSMAnd since companies have to pay for that.
I have looked at several apps for Android and I have selected those two
apps.

Marc Gotzel  schrieb am Mo., 24. Feb. 2020, 11:02:

> Hello,
>
> sorry my english isn't good enough to find answears to my questions in the
> search engine.
>
> I want to buy the OSMAND+ Version for my android device, but I'm still not
> sure if it is the right app for me.
>
> I'm using google maps since today, but for my holiday trips I#m searching
> an app that is able to calculate a route with more the 10 waypoints..
> (Planning a Norway trip actually, so need roundabout 20-30 stops)
>
> I want to plan the route on my laptop as well, and then send it to my
> mobile if possible.
>
> And I tried the freeware version... there I have many small maps for every
> country is it not possible to download the whole country like Norway,
> Denmark, Sweden and Germany?
> Perhaps in the + Version?
>
> ANd what about the problem with longer distances? I just read about them
> here... is it stil actual?
>
> Many thx from Germany
> Marc
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Version numbers?

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Hi, I've just installed the nightly version 2020/02/25.
It reports version 3.5.6#29097
But the Play Store version is 3.6.2
Which one is more recent? 
Thanks for enlightening me, 
Helmut 

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Re: Route planning on PC, download whole country maps, maximum number of waypoints

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But AFAIK it's difficult to access a (small) part of a compressed file
without decompressing the whole file first.

Harry van der Wolf  schrieb am Mo., 24. Feb. 2020, 13:24:

> I used to be a longtime user of Mapfactor Navigator as it is a very fast
> and at the same time a "light-weight" app for your phone/android unit, but
> they create their maps by hand and these sometimes contain errors, which
> gives you errors in routing.
>
> I currently use OsmAnd+ for hiking/bicycling and Magic Earth for car
> navigation. The latter also because it has (free) traffic info and can be
> used to create multi-point routes though not as good and easy as OsmAnd or
> Mapfactor Navigator.
> Because of its profiles (which are extremely buggy and unworkable in the
> current 3.5.5, but which work correctly in the to be released 3.6 version)
> I also use OsmAnd now for caravan because it routes better thanks to those
> profiles.
>
> The maps of OsmAnd are more detailed than any other map. The 2nd reason
> for the big map files is, is that they are uncompressed while all the other
> apps use some compression algorithm like zip, gzip, lz4 (extremely fast),
> etc.
> It would be a big bonus for me if OsmAnd would compress their maps as well
> (with for example lz4). It is not only about size on SD-card, but using a
> fast decompression algorithm increases the speed at which maps can be read:
> reading a small file from a slow disk and uncompressing it in fast memory
> would be beneficial for overall performance.
>
> Harry
>
>
>
> Op ma 24 feb. 2020 om 13:05 schreef Peer :
>
>> I too am going to Norway in this coming summer. I have Osmand+ installed
>> and the maps of the Netherlands, parts of Germany, Denmark, Sweden and
>> Norway. I like the detailed maps. You will have to get used to Osmand but
>> it does have many interesting features so it is worth it.
>>
>> An good alternative is Mapfactor. You can create routes with many
>> waypoints. This app is easier then Osmand, the maps are smaller and the
>> routecalculation is faster. But the maps are not as detailed as the maps of
>> Osmand.
>>
>> Op maandag 24 februari 2020 11:02:31 UTC+1 schreef Marc Gotzel:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> sorry my english isn't good enough to find answears to my questions in
>>> the search engine.
>>>
>>> I want to buy the OSMAND+ Version for my android device, but I'm still
>>> not sure if it is the right app for me.
>>>
>>> I'm using google maps since today, but for my holiday trips I#m
>>> searching an app that is able to calculate a route with more the 10
>>> waypoints..
>>> (Planning a Norway trip actually, so need roundabout 20-30 stops)
>>>
>>> I want to plan the route on my laptop as well, and then send it to my
>>> mobile if possible.
>>>
>>> And I tried the freeware version... there I have many small maps for
>>> every country is it not possible to download the whole country like
>>> Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Germany?
>>> Perhaps in the + Version?
>>>
>>> ANd what about the problem with longer distances? I just read about them
>>> here... is it stil actual?
>>>
>>> Many thx from Germany
>>> Marc
>>>
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Read out Elevation

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,
I have contour lines installed.
Is there any means to find the elevation of a location on the map? 
Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut 

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Re: SD Card question

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Sometimes one has to reboot the device to see the change.
If you have a file manager installed (I like Totalcomander or MiXplorer
best)
go to /Android/data/net.osmand.plus/files
There you see the maps.


Tom Norton  schrieb am So., 9. Feb. 2020, 15:08:

> So as a tech challenged individual I was attempting to move my maps from
> internal storage to the micro SD Card.
> I thought I would look at the amount of data stored Internally before and
> after. So then I went to Settings in Osmand and I see 2 External Storages.
> I picked #2 as #1 was already checked. Did the change and then looked at
> the Internal Storage and yes the volume decreased by about 2 gig. Then I
> looked at the SD Card storage and it really didn't change.
> So my question is where did it go? And/or what did I do wrong?
> Looking forward to your assistance!
> Thanks!
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Re: direction?

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Switching profiles while navigating is easy. Therefore modify your private
profile to fit the profile you were using.

vzteklik  schrieb am Fr., 14. Feb. 2020, 21:27:

> I tried it and can't figure it out :-(
>
> I can create new profile and yes the navigation is a straight line, which
> is perfect. However I can't find how to change the type of navigation
> (straight line vs. anything else) without changing the profile setting?
>
> Example: I have a certain renderer and other maps settings set which suits
> me. Now I want to get from my location to a point on the map. I choose the
> profile to be used with these settings and before pressing GO I would like
> to be able to choose whether I want to stick to roads or fly over using the
> straight line, similarly I often want to change 'use roads' to 'straight
> line' mode while re-calculating the route. Simply to have the drop down
> menu which is available on profile setting page on navigation setup page.
> That I guess is not possible, correct?
>
> Nevertheless, the airplane mode is what I was looking for, so thank you
> for enlightening me.
>
> V.
>
>
>
> -- Původní zpráva --
> Od: "Helmut Jarausch" 
> Komu: osmand@googlegroups.com
> Odesláno: 12/02/2020 19:37:53
> Předmět: Re: direction?
>
> Just create a new profile from airplane standard profile.
> It does exactly what you want.
> (I've tried it with the build from today)
>
> vzteklik  schrieb am Di., 11. Feb. 2020, 20:45:
>
>> Understood.
>>
>> But is there a way to choose while setting up a navigation between 'use
>> the roads/map' and 'just show the direction' while not changing the
>> profile? Similar like you are choosing to avoid certain roads, fastest or
>> economic etc...?
>>
>> I have been using it in the Sahara desert navigating to a certain
>> coordinates and was not interested in sticking to any roads, only in
>> direction - my old Garmin can do it with two button clicks. Similarly I
>> quite like to just know that in this direction is my destination and find a
>> way to get there myself - on- or off-road does not matter - walk or drive.
>> Just for the fun of it. So I'm trying to find a way to do so. Changing
>> profiles is of course possible (now that I know of it), but I would need to
>> have two profiles per type of transport one set to direction and one for
>> the road and twice set up the map look :-(
>>
>> V.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Původní zpráva --
>> Od: "Massimo Mula" 
>> Komu: osmand@googlegroups.com
>> Odesláno: 11/02/2020 01:02:10
>> Předmět: Re: direction?
>>
>> Actually, OsmAnd implements different navigation modes and presents them
>> to the user as "profiles": you can also create your own, if you are not
>> satisfied with the provided ones, by "mixing" the features you like: just
>> check menu *Settings -> Manage app profiles -> (+ Add)* button.
>>
>> Best things,
>> Max
>>
>>
>>
>> Il Lun 10 Feb 2020, 13:20 vzteklik  ha scritto:
>>
>>>
>>> Great! Thank you, that seems to do the trick ;-)
>>>
>>> How does the airplane mode does it? In ideal world I would like to use
>>> this navigation method on request in pedestrian mode (where my map is
>>> already configured to the desired look).
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Původní zpráva --
>>> Od: "Roberto Petitpas" 
>>> Komu: osmand@googlegroups.com
>>> Odesláno: 08/02/2020 17:11:12
>>> Předmět: Re: direction?
>>>
>>> Use the airplane profile.
>>>
>>> El sáb., 8 de febrero de 2020 08:20, vzteklik 
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure I'm overlooking something somewhere, but how can I make Osmand
>>>> to show the direction to the destination point as a straight line
>>>> regardless of the roads, tracks or anything? Is it possible? I still can't
>>>> figure it out...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> V.
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Re: maps on sd-card and track on internal memory

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The file explorers FX and Totalview can write onto the external SD card.
If your device is rooted then Apps2SD can bind-mount a folder on the
internal SD card to the external SD card.

Peer  schrieb am Di., 14. Jan. 2020, 13:11:

> Hello,
>
> at ths momentt I have my maps stored on my external SD-card. My tracks are
> also stored on my external SD-card. But I would to to have the tracks on my
> internal memory.
> I want this because I can easily transfer files with ssh to my internal
> memory but not to the external memory (permissons denied). I tried apps
> that can write to the sd-card but I found it easier to transfer the files
> to the internal memoary and the on my phone move to theexternal memory
>
> So my question is:
> Is it possible to create a symbolic link on my SD-card that links the
> tracks map to the tracks map on internal memory??
> And how can this be done??
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Re: Video tutorial: using the profiles

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Sorry, it should be
P1 - > D2 - > D1 - > P2


Helmut Jarausch  schrieb am Mi., 11. März 2020, 12:29:

> Here is a problem which I can't solve and which is related to straight
> line navigation.
> You notice a distant fire and you want to find where it is located.
> On my old Garmin device there is a feature called Sight'N Go.
> One aims at the distant object and presses Enter. Then one can create a
> distant way point by specifying an approximate distance.
> This can be used to solve my problem as follows:
> Do Sight'N Go from two positions (P1 and P2) which are sufficiently apart
> from each other. This gives the two distant way points D1 and D2.
> With these data one creates a piecewise straight route connecting
> P1 - > D1 - > D2 - > P2
> This route intersects itself at the position of the fire. (at least if the
> estimated distances of D1 and D2 are greater than the distance of the fire)
> Sorry if this is too offtopic,
> Helmut
>
> Bart Eisenberg  schrieb am Di., 10. März 2020,
> 21:44:
>
>> Yeah, that "Bart" story: *c'est moi*.
>>
>> The new version of straight-line navigation kicks in if you go
>> off-course. With the appropriate settings, it maintains your original
>> bearing, then, maybe two-thirds of the way, it  course-corrects--angling
>> back to the destination.  What's the application for this? As opposed to
>> just straight straight-line navigation from current location to
>> destination.
>>
>> Here's the blog description:  "We have also implemented a new setting. In
>> case if you deviate from the route during the navigation, this setting
>> builds the shortest path from your current position to the calculated route
>> with the maximum angle. In other words, if the angle is higher than the one
>> set by the user, OsmAnd calculates the next point of the route to build an
>> additional route segment, so the angle will be valid."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 1:08:56 PM UTC-7, Pere Pujal i Carabantes
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> El dt. 10 de 03 de 2020 a les 17:41 +0100, en/na Harry van der Wolf va
>>> escriure:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Op di 10 mrt. 2020 om 16:30 schreef Bart Eisenberg <
>>> > bartei...@gmail.com>:
>>> > >
>>> > > To my American ear, the help pages are surprisingly clear. Where I
>>> > > notice a gap, due to non-native writing, murky technical writing,
>>> > > or both, is in parts of the blog, such as the OsmAnd 3.6 post.  I'm
>>> > > still trying to figure out, for example, exactly how the improved
>>> > > version of straight-line navigation works and where it might be
>>> > > useful.  Airplane landings?
>>>
>>> It should be very usefull in unknown/unmaped terrain were you want to
>>> know the direction to the destination but can not relay on the map data
>>> to get there, so you take the paths that you see on the terrain that
>>> you assume will lead better to the destination.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Pere
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Re: Video tutorial: using the profiles

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Here is a problem which I can't solve and which is related to straight line
navigation.
You notice a distant fire and you want to find where it is located.
On my old Garmin device there is a feature called Sight'N Go.
One aims at the distant object and presses Enter. Then one can create a
distant way point by specifying an approximate distance.
This can be used to solve my problem as follows:
Do Sight'N Go from two positions (P1 and P2) which are sufficiently apart
from each other. This gives the two distant way points D1 and D2.
With these data one creates a piecewise straight route connecting
P1 - > D1 - > D2 - > P2
This route intersects itself at the position of the fire. (at least if the
estimated distances of D1 and D2 are greater than the distance of the fire)
Sorry if this is too offtopic,
Helmut

Bart Eisenberg  schrieb am Di., 10. März 2020,
21:44:

> Yeah, that "Bart" story: *c'est moi*.
>
> The new version of straight-line navigation kicks in if you go
> off-course. With the appropriate settings, it maintains your original
> bearing, then, maybe two-thirds of the way, it  course-corrects--angling
> back to the destination.  What's the application for this? As opposed to
> just straight straight-line navigation from current location to
> destination.
>
> Here's the blog description:  "We have also implemented a new setting. In
> case if you deviate from the route during the navigation, this setting
> builds the shortest path from your current position to the calculated route
> with the maximum angle. In other words, if the angle is higher than the one
> set by the user, OsmAnd calculates the next point of the route to build an
> additional route segment, so the angle will be valid."
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 1:08:56 PM UTC-7, Pere Pujal i Carabantes
> wrote:
>>
>> El dt. 10 de 03 de 2020 a les 17:41 +0100, en/na Harry van der Wolf va
>> escriure:
>> >
>> >
>> > Op di 10 mrt. 2020 om 16:30 schreef Bart Eisenberg <
>> > bartei...@gmail.com>:
>> > >
>> > > To my American ear, the help pages are surprisingly clear. Where I
>> > > notice a gap, due to non-native writing, murky technical writing,
>> > > or both, is in parts of the blog, such as the OsmAnd 3.6 post.  I'm
>> > > still trying to figure out, for example, exactly how the improved
>> > > version of straight-line navigation works and where it might be
>> > > useful.  Airplane landings?
>>
>> It should be very usefull in unknown/unmaped terrain were you want to
>> know the direction to the destination but can not relay on the map data
>> to get there, so you take the paths that you see on the terrain that
>> you assume will lead better to the destination.
>>
>> HTH
>> Pere
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Re: Map rotation ?

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It works just fine on my Android phone.
One of my devices has a compass.
On my device without compass I have two choices
North upand
direction up
On the device with a compass there is a third possibility where the map is
rotated such that its north is directed to true North.

vohe07  schrieb am Di., 21. Apr. 2020, 09:26:

> Hi Eugene,
>
> Yes, I already tried the options here... as written below.
> In other apps you can keep the orientation of my travel direction always
> to the top of the screen and map changes in direction of travel, e.g.
> Garmin: "in direction of travel" .
>
> Is this due to iOS version 3.13 and maybe working in Android version 3.6x ?
>
>
> Am Montag, 20. April 2020 12:34:38 UTC+2 schrieb Eugene zmeu:
>>
>>
>> *app menu-> Settings-> General Settings-> Map orientation*Did you try to
>> set your parameters here?
>>
>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:51:30 AM UTC+3, vohe07 wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, I am newbie using OsmAnd v3.13 on an iOS device.
>>> When travelling with my motorcycle or mountainbike I am using OSMAnd to
>>> follow routes that I worked out on the PC.
>>>
>>> What is a bit of a pain is that the arrow that marks my position does
>>> not always point to the top of my screen but instead to the left or right
>>> or whereever following the street :-) which means that I always have to
>>> think if I have to turn left or right etc. on the next corner. I already
>>> tried all settings in the menu and also the compass needle but nothing
>>> worked !
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong ? Can you help please !?
>>>
>>> Thanks !
>>>
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Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

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No insult intended :
OSMAnd is not a company but a user driven project. So, it's up to all of us
to improve it. If somebody comes up with the implementation of a better
routing algorithm l am sure this will get into OSMAnd very soon.

Lodro Gyamtso  schrieb am Do., 26. März 2020, 11:03:

> when we read the copy-paste text i made into the previous post, from
> osmand company we can found this
>
>> there are different limitations for different phones, *depending on
>> memory & processor*
>>
>
> when i made some route examples, from 50-150km using one flagship
> smartphone from year 2012 the time results was 1-3minutes. Into the same
> tests with one flagship smartphone from year 2017, the time results was
> from 10-30 seconds. It's very logical to assume if we test a year 2020
> model we must found less time results.
>
> As i said "i have found this text is from 24-04-2016". We can understood
> that the osmand company has made this post (faq) for the customers, maybe
> months or years earlier. Today (2020), the device hardware year by year is
> getting mode powerful and the time for the osmand app to route from point a
> to point b will be faster. So, i don't think osmand company  will
> change/improve nothing, now or ever.
>
> p.s.
> sorry for my english
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Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

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If that were so simple, there would the following extremely fast overall
algorithm:
Select a point in the "middle" and solve the two problems separately.
Now continue to do that recursively.

Episteme PROMENEUR  schrieb am Fr., 27. März
2020, 19:30:

>
>
>
>>
>>
> After reading all posts I was a bit puzzled and disappointed then i had an
> idea.
>
> Osmand advises cutting in several routes of 250 km our itinerary, Right ?
>
> Then I asked for Osmand to include their advice in their algorithm.
>
> See
>
> https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/8721
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Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

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With OSMAnds (relatively) new feature to turn the screen on (for a few
seconds only) when there is a bifurcation ahead, I have observed quite
moderate battery consumption - about a few percents per hour.

'Xavier' via OsmAnd  schrieb am So., 29. März
2020, 05:05:

> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 05:42:26PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> With power usage, do you believe that
> >>
> >>   osmand running gps receiver, displaying where you are and navigating
> >>   along an already calculated route
> >>
> >> takes significantly more power than
> >>
> >>   osmand running gps receiver and displaying where you are
> >
> >I don't know.  Putting my software developer hat, I'd guess that the
> >difference is fairly small.  And I'm pretty sure that the GPS receiver
> >power is negligible in this scenario.
>
> Actually, no, GPS power consumption is not negligable in most real
> world senarios.
>
> See https://www.usenix.org/legacy/event/atc10/tech/full_papers/Carroll.pdf
>
> In their tests, the found the GPS module responsible for 143.1mW of
> power consumption (Table 5, pg.  7) on its internal antenna.  While the
> display backlight [1] ranged from a minimum of 7.8mW to a maximum of
> 414mW, with 75mW used by the display when set to center scale on the UI
> brightness slider.
>
> So, depending upon one's selected display brightness setting, the GPS
> receiver can range anywere from 18.3x more power than the backlight to
> 0.346x of the backlight, with 'center scale' brightness placing the GPS
> chip at just about 2x the power of the backlight.
>
> So the GPS chip is hardly a /negligible/ power consumer based upon the
> results of this study.
>
>
>
> [1] the display backlight is often quoted as the "largest power
> consumer", therefore all the common advice to use as low a brightness
> level as possible and to keep it off as much as possible.
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Re: Galaxy S10 Plus - maps interrupted by magnet on car mount

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I had to buy one of the rare covers fot my mobile exact for that reason.
Without use of the magnetic sensor one looses the possibility to see the
the direction when one is not moving (fast enough)
For physical reasons there is no way around removing all magnets nearby.
So, if you want to see where to turn when you are at a traffic light, you
have to use a different car mount.
Helmut


alpine14011970  schrieb am Mi., 25. März 2020,
09:24:

> I found turning off the magnetic sensor in Osmand maps to cure the issue
> with the magnet interrupting the compass of Osmand maps.  It seems to work
> now with the, use magnetic sensor turned off in settings for Osmand maps.
> The car mount for my phone uses a strong magnetic and I found this to
> interrupt the phone's magnetic sensor, so turning it off seems to fix the
> problem.  Anyone have any ideas regarding this trouble?  I am not sure if I
> had it turned off in settings on my Galaxy S8 plus, I can not remember.
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Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

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@Lodro
PLEASE STOP to insult anybody on this forum.
I don't understand the fuss about this problem.
I have no problems on my 5 years old mobile.
For long distance calculations I set one or two intermediate points to
circumvent the problem.
Please give citations on better routing algorithms which are suitable for
devices with low memory and restricted CPU power. If there is such an
algorithm we should all try to implement it and send it to the developers
of OSMAnd.
When hiking I am not aware of any other offline routing app with such
detailed maps.
And installing yet another app requires additional storage on the SD card.

So, please stay constructive,
Helmut

Lodro Gyamtso  schrieb am Mi., 25. März 2020, 08:15:

> this post is special for user "Harry van der Wolf"
>
> who do you think that you are ? who gave you the right to say to other
> people  -* Please test yourself before posting these "theories"*.
> Is your ego and arrogance ? That's why i suggest to you "don't say to
> other people what to do into their personal lives"
>
> i am writing a post having experience of my devices or reading posts from
> other users. I did exactly what you made, i write my thoughts as you did,
> without judging other people. I use only what the others say, just to found
> answers.
>
> Using my old smartphone for a route inside the city of 60 Km, the results
> time is over 1 minute for calculation. With my new smartphone for the same
> route needs less of 20secs to draw the route. With all the navigation apps
> i have mentions before, the route results is 1sec (instantaneously) for
> both of my devices.
>
> p.s
> sorry for my english
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 12:53:14 PM UTC+2, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Op di 24 mrt. 2020 om 07:32 schreef Lodro Gyamtso :
>>
>>> after the answer of user "Poutnik", we have another proof that the
>>> OSMAnd and BRoute use slow (bad) technology.
>>>
>>> Software like Here WeGO, Sygic, Tomtom Go, iGO, navigon, navitel, route
>>> 66, copilot, mireo, etc , are far away from this low level apps (OSMAnd and
>>> BRout). And all of this top companies has offline navigation apps. So, the
>>> user "Episteme PROMENEUR" has right into his first post.
>>>
>>> My opinion is - don't use osmand, locus, orux, brouter, for city
>>> navigation. They are only for mountain use.
>>>
>>>
>> That is not true. Both OsmAnd and BRouter are excellent routers. OsmAnd
>> is slower on longer distances, but that can be tweaked.
>> OsmAnd is even the best in cities due to it's penalty system for traffic
>> lights and  traffic bumps and the like.
>> If you calculate a route inside a city, the route might be the same, but
>> OsmAnds ETA is by far the most accurate even though TomTom uses their
>> "smart routing" where they collected statistical data on "heavy use" roads.
>> And sometimes OsmAnds route is different, exactly because it uses these
>> penalties. I personally did many test and especially in cities (!), OsmAnd
>> is by far the best when calculating the route AND the correct ETA. So
>> actually in cities I do use OsmAnd.
>> Please test yourself before posting these "theories".
>> I know less about BRouter, although I used it for cycling, and that was
>> excellent. So why "mountain use"?
>> Here WeGo is currently only a city navigation tool, so useless in my eyes
>> (unless it is builtin into your car navigation set).
>>
>> Finally: There is not one single navigation app in the world that offers
>> the wide portfolio of functionality that OsmAnd does. Not one!
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Voice??

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You could try the following
Go to the menu / extensions / OSMAnd-development
Tap on the 3 vertical dots and go to settings. There scroll down to "test
voice announcements"
It displays a list of available languages.
Tap on the desired language.
You get a list announcements in English. Tap on one and you should here the
message in your language.
I once had a similar problem.
I uninstalled my language and reinstalled it again. This fixed the problem.
Helmut


Tom Norton  schrieb am Di., 17. März 2020, 18:15:

> Still not working.
> Other suggestions??
> Thanks!
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Re: Measure distance widget

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Measuring beeline distances hasn't got more complicated. But it has very
useful new features. You can measure distances along a route passing
through given points - and that for different profiles. Furthermore it has
grown into a track editor.
IMHO it has got much more useful.
Thanks to the developers,
Helmut

Denise or Gavin  schrieb am Sa., 17. Okt. 2020,
09:37:

> Thanks Max. They sure have made a simple thing into a complicated one.
>
> On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 at 17:44, Max1234 Ita  wrote:
>
>> No Gavin, it's still there!
>> It has been just renamed.
>> Try looking for 'Plan a route' in the main menu ;)
>>
>> Best things,
>> Max
>>
>> Il giorno sabato 17 ottobre 2020 alle 06:41:47 UTC+2 Gavinx ha scritto:
>>
>>> I can no longer find the Measure Distance widget.
>>>
>>> Is it buried somewhere?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
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No Map Updates this month?

[Helmut Jarausch]

For the first time, there are no updates for 'bigger' regions for some
countries at least. Does anybody know if this is temporary technical
problem or a change of policy?
Thanks for an info
Helmut

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Re: Navigation without map just arrows and distance

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Sorry, it is aeroplane which I have copied and modified for hiking. I
assigned the helicopter icon that profile.

'Sven Böhm' via OsmAnd  schrieb am Mi., 19. Aug.
2020, 12:45:

> Sorry but I can't find such a profile...
> You mean instead of car, boat, bicycle...?
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Re: No Map Updates this month?

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Many thanks for fixing this!
Helmut

Greg Troxel  schrieb am Mi., 19. Aug. 2020, 14:56:

>
> Dmitry Prodchenko  writes:
>
> > Hello! Thank you for the feedback.
> > Could you please provide map names?
>
> A specific example was "United States Massachusetts".
>
> I have been checking daily since about 8/11, and yesterday it was still
> showing "Jun 30".  Just now it shows "Jul 31", so apparently things are
> better.
>
> Thanks for fixing, if you did, and in general if not :-)
>
>
>
> (I usually download Mass every month, because I am an active mapper.
> Far-away tates that I have loaded I tend to only refresh when they are a
> year old, and the adjoining ones I sometimes visit every few months, or
> prior to visiting.  I don't know what others do, but it seems piggy to
> use resources to freshen maps when that freshness doesn't do me any
> good.  Probably it's too complicated to have 3 settings of freshness
> that can be applied, and have the main refresh button follow that
> guidance, basically refresh "slow" maps if more than 12months old,
> "medium" if more than 3, and "fast" if there is a new version.)
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Re: Multiple Maps for a location

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Thanks, now there these over-/underlay buttons.
But there my .obf file is not visible (as expected).
In my case, the new map has only 4Mb and covers are small region which is
also covered by a 200Mb standard map.
Thanks a lot
Helmut

Pere Pujal i Carabantes  schrieb am Mo., 17. Aug.
2020, 15:19:

> El dl. 17 de 08 de 2020 a les 14:19 +0200, en/na Helmut Jarausch va
> escriure:
> > I don't have these items and I think this is because there are no files
> in the
> > /files/tiles folder.
> > My map is an obf file and files in the tiles folder are sqlite db files.
> > So my question remains :
> > If there are more than one obf files in the  /files folder
> containing the same location, which map (obf file) gets precedence?
> > Thanks Helmut
> >
>
> If I remember correctly, somebody in this group pointed that both maps
> are combined and shown toghether, things may have changed since some
> years ago, or my memory is failing me, or whatever.
>
> Having 2 or more maps covering the same area was discouraged at those
> times as the program has to double the processing effort, it might make
> sense for your case in of a very small(and detailed) map doubling just
> a small area of a broather map.
>
> About the overlay options not appearing, you must have the online maps
> plugin activated in order to make them appear, even if you have them
> already on your phone.
>
> HTH
> Pere
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Re: Multiple Maps for a location

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Thanks.
I wished OSMAnd had an option to specify 'priorities'.
If à location is contained in more than one map, the map with highest
priority is used.
Helmut

Pere Pujal i Carabantes  schrieb am Mo., 17. Aug.
2020, 16:02:

> El dl. 17 de 08 de 2020 a les 15:41 +0200, en/na Helmut Jarausch va
> escriure:
> > Thanks, now there these over-/underlay buttons.
> > But there my .obf file is not visible (as expected).
> > In my case, the new map has only 4Mb and covers are small region which
> is also covered by a 200Mb standard map.
> > Thanks a lot
> > Helmut
>
> yw, BTW, you could try to temporary deactivate any map, so you could
> see each of them alone in the same area and compare by yourself.
>
> HTH
> Pere
> >
> > Pere Pujal i Carabantes  schrieb am Mo., 17. Aug.
> 2020, 15:19:
> > > El dl. 17 de 08 de 2020 a les 14:19 +0200, en/na Helmut Jarausch va
> > > escriure:
> > > > I don't have these items and I think this is because there are no
> files in the
> > > > /files/tiles folder.
> > > > My map is an obf file and files in the tiles folder are sqlite db
> files.
> > > > So my question remains :
> > > > If there are more than one obf files in the  /files folder
> containing the same location, which map (obf file) gets precedence?
> > > > Thanks Helmut
> > > >
> > >
> > > If I remember correctly, somebody in this group pointed that both maps
> > > are combined and shown toghether, things may have changed since some
> > > years ago, or my memory is failing me, or whatever.
> > >
> > > Having 2 or more maps covering the same area was discouraged at those
> > > times as the program has to double the processing effort, it might make
> > > sense for your case in of a very small(and detailed) map doubling just
> > > a small area of a broather map.
> > >
> > > About the overlay options not appearing, you must have the online maps
> > > plugin activated in order to make them appear, even if you have them
> > > already on your phone.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > > Pere
> > >
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Re: Navigation without map just arrows and distance

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There is a profile with an helicopter icon.

Dmitry Prodchenko  schrieb am Mi., 19. Aug. 2020, 10:33:

> Hello!
> You can add marker to needed place and enable top bar view + direction
> arrows, but map it still be visible, currently OsmAnd doesn't have view or
> mode you mentioned.
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 10:03:28 PM UTC+3 sven.b...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Is there any setting that changes the navigation view?
>> I just want to have the arrow and distance that is usually shown on the
>> upper left spread over the whole screen.
>> I don't need the map to be displayed
>> Regards,
>> Sven
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Re: Modify a GPX Track - how to?

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I have a tiny feature request. It would be nice if scrolling the waypoint
list would wrap around, esp. when scrolling down at the first waypoint one
would have immediate access to the last one.
Helmut

A Thompson  schrieb am Do., 24. Sep. 2020, 04:32:

> Thanks for the thanks!
>
> I was just experimenting... while in the "Measure Distance" tool, if you
> pinch-zoom onto any part of your track in the map part of the display,
> eventually you see the individual waypoints. If you long-press on one, then
> you can move it around without having to access the list of points.
>
> This doesn't address my use-case of wanting to delete about a kilometre
> from the beginning and end of a track, but at least it allows for some
> adjustment even to the end of a track without having to scroll to the end
> of the list of points if it is very long.
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 at 7:53:22 PM UTC+1, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>>
>> Many thanks for that excellent explanation.
>> Again one of OSMAnds hidden gems.
>> Helmut
>>
>> A Thompson  schrieb am Di., 22. Sep. 2020, 02:21:
>>
>>> Here it is in pictures!
>>>
>>> Select your GPX:
>>> [image: 1.jpg]
>>>
>>> Click on the three dots in the bottom left of the next screen:
>>> [image: 2.jpg] [image: 3.jpg]
>>>
>>> Choose "Edit":
>>> [image: 4.jpg]
>>>
>>> You are now in the "Measure Distance" tool. Tap on the blue symbol to
>>> bring up a list of points:
>>> [image: 5.jpg]
>>>
>>> Tap a cross to delete a point:
>>> [image: 6.jpg]
>>>
>>> ...or on the name of a point to bring up more options:
>>> [image: 6_2.jpg][image: 7.jpg]
>>>
>>> ...but for a recorded track there can easily be so many points that it
>>> takes too long to scroll through them to get to the end!
>>>
>>> As has been noted, it's easy to edit GPX on a PC (I use Viking
>>> <https://sourceforge.net/p/viking/wikiallura/Main_Page/> - free,
>>> open-source, Linux, Windows) but that adds some time and effort if you just
>>> wanted to make a quick fix.
>>>
>>> I hope that helps! Best wishes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 9:15:47 PM UTC+1, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Could you please elaborate a bit. I couldn't find an option to delete a
>>>> waypoint/segment.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Helmut
>>>>
>>>> A Thompson  schrieb am Mo., 21. Sep. 2020, 02:00:
>>>>
>>>>> You can do it in OsmAnd by loading the track into the "Measure
>>>>> Distance" tool, which has a dual role as a tool for manually creating and
>>>>> editing GPX tracks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tap on your track in My_Places>Tracks. At the bottom-left of the next
>>>>> screen (you may have to scroll down) tap on the three dots and choose
>>>>> "Edit." This loads your track into the measure distance tool.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can add points, but also delete: Tap on the blue track symbol in
>>>>> the bottom left corner to bring up a list of points, and tap on the X next
>>>>> to a point to delete it.
>>>>>
>>>>> A limitation is that if your track has very many points it takes
>>>>> ridiculously long to scroll down the list to delete points from the end.
>>>>> For privacy, I often want to delete the start and end of a recorded track
>>>>> before sharing it, so this is a pain. Does anyone know a solution?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 10:45:20 PM UTC+1,
>>>>> hjar...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, I have a recorded GPX Track where the last few points are rubbish
>>>>>> since the battery dropped low. Is it possible to remove these last
>>>>>> waypoints from the track.?
>>>>>> Thanks for a hint
>>>>>> Helmut
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Re: Modify a GPX Track - how to?

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Thanks for the hint.
Unfortunately when I am on holiday I have only my tablet and my phone with
me.


Werner  schrieb am Do., 24. Sep. 2020, 17:53:

> A very easy program for doing such jobs is RouteConverter, a freeware on
> PC.
> Download: https://www.routeconverter.de/
>
> Werner
> Xavier schrieb am Donnerstag, 24. September 2020 um 16:45:17 UTC+2:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 10:24:50AM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> >I have a tiny feature request. It would be nice if scrolling the
>> waypoint
>> >list would wrap around, esp. when scrolling down at the first waypoint
>> one
>> >would have immediate access to the last one.
>> >Helmut
>>
>> Feature requests should be submitted to the OsmAnd issues tracker on
>> Github here:
>>
>> https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues
>>
>> This group is users helping users, while a developer does drop by
>> occasionally, they do not regularally monitor this group for feature
>> requests or bug reports.
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Re: Modify a GPX Track - how to?

[Helmut Jarausch]

Could you please elaborate a bit. I couldn't find an option to delete a
waypoint/segment.
Thanks
Helmut

A Thompson  schrieb am Mo., 21. Sep. 2020, 02:00:

> You can do it in OsmAnd by loading the track into the "Measure Distance"
> tool, which has a dual role as a tool for manually creating and editing GPX
> tracks.
>
> Tap on your track in My_Places>Tracks. At the bottom-left of the next
> screen (you may have to scroll down) tap on the three dots and choose
> "Edit." This loads your track into the measure distance tool.
>
> You can add points, but also delete: Tap on the blue track symbol in the
> bottom left corner to bring up a list of points, and tap on the X next to a
> point to delete it.
>
> A limitation is that if your track has very many points it takes
> ridiculously long to scroll down the list to delete points from the end.
> For privacy, I often want to delete the start and end of a recorded track
> before sharing it, so this is a pain. Does anyone know a solution?
>
>
> On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 10:45:20 PM UTC+1, hjar...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I have a recorded GPX Track where the last few points are rubbish
>> since the battery dropped low. Is it possible to remove these last
>> waypoints from the track.?
>> Thanks for a hint
>> Helmut
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Re: What are the best offline maps for elevation?

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Have you installed the "slope map" for your country?

Luca Quassiati  schrieb am Sa., 18. Juli 2020, 20:56:

> I love OSM maps because they have the most detailed hiking path info.
> What are the best offline maps that contain OSM data plus elevation that I
> can use in OsmAnd?
> Something as similar as possible to OpenTopo (which unfortunately seems to
> be only online?).
> Much appreciated,
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Re: How to load a GPX file and let OsmAnd navigate me in Android App?

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Please search for the video
How to download and navigate generic GPX tracks with OsmAnd Maps Navigation
by Bart Eisenberg
Helmut

Claudia Svenson  schrieb am Di., 4. Aug. 2020, 16:23:

> I have a *.gpx file with a certain bike track on my Android Smartphone.
>
> I want to load it into OsmAnd App and let me follow this track (again).
>
> How can I achieve this in detail?
>
> I found no "Load gpx file" or similar option/menu
>
> Claudia
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Re: Bug with following a GPX route

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Invoke the navigation icon. Tap on the desired track under "Angezeigte
Tracks".
The tap on "Optionen". Then turn off "Osmand-Route für ersten und letzten
Abschnitt berechnen"

Sixtron  schrieb am Do., 6. Aug. 2020, 12:40:

> I can not find this option. Where is it. Using german version.
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Multiple Maps for a location

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Sorry, if this is a dump question - I haven't found an answer by googling.
I have downloaded a map for a small region from BBBike.org.
This map covers the same region as one of OSMAnd's official maps.
When I am at a location which is present in both maps, which map will be
displayed?
How can I change the 'priority' of maps.
Many thanks for a hint
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Re: Multiple Maps for a location

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I think I'm missing much more.
I have copied the, say, New.obf file to OSMAnd's folder. It is visible
under "local maps" but I have not found a means to configure it as an
overlay or something else.
So, what do I have to do after the new .obf is copied into place.
Thanks for your patience
Helmut


Bart Eisenberg  schrieb am So., 16. Aug. 2020,
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> The priority is determined by whether you display the layer as an Overlay
> map or an Underlay map.  In either case, you can also blend the two by
> enabling "Show transparency seekbar".  The seekbar is light blue and shows
> at the bottom of the screen.
>
> (Regarding the query that's the title of this thread, I don't understand
> the question.)
>
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 6:14:07 AM UTC-7 everton...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> You can use the bbbike map as an overlay. It will show when a available
>> otherwise it will show the default map
>>
>> Le dim. 16 août 2020 à 15:01, Helmut Jarausch  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Sorry, if this is a dump question - I haven't found an answer by
>>> googling.
>>> I have downloaded a map for a small region from BBBike.org.
>>> This map covers the same region as one of OSMAnd's official maps.
>>> When I am at a location which is present in both maps, which map will be
>>> displayed?
>>> How can I change the 'priority' of maps.
>>> Many thanks for a hint
>>> Helmut
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Re: Multiple Maps for a location

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Sorry, I can't find this options.
If I select 'configure map' I get a list of profiles. Please look at the
attached screenshot

Bart Eisenberg  schrieb am So., 16. Aug. 2020,
20:45:

> Is it listed at Configure map > Overlay map (or Underlay map) > On ?
>
> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 11:25:23 AM UTC-7 hjar...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I think I'm missing much more.
>> I have copied the, say, New.obf file to OSMAnd's folder. It is visible
>> under "local maps" but I have not found a means to configure it as an
>> overlay or something else.
>> So, what do I have to do after the new .obf is copied into place.
>> Thanks for your patience
>> Helmut
>>
>>
>> Bart Eisenberg  schrieb am So., 16. Aug. 2020,
>> 17:23:
>>
>>> The priority is determined by whether you display the layer as an
>>> Overlay map or an Underlay map.  In either case, you can also blend the two
>>> by enabling "Show transparency seekbar".  The seekbar is light blue and
>>> shows at the bottom of the screen.
>>>
>>> (Regarding the query that's the title of this thread, I don't understand
>>> the question.)
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 6:14:07 AM UTC-7 everton...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can use the bbbike map as an overlay. It will show when a available
>>>> otherwise it will show the default map
>>>>
>>>> Le dim. 16 août 2020 à 15:01, Helmut Jarausch  a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, if this is a dump question - I haven't found an answer by
>>>>> googling.
>>>>> I have downloaded a map for a small region from BBBike.org.
>>>>> This map covers the same region as one of OSMAnd's official maps.
>>>>> When I am at a location which is present in both maps, which map will
>>>>> be displayed?
>>>>> How can I change the 'priority' of maps.
>>>>> Many thanks for a hint
>>>>> Helmut
>>>>>
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Re: voice guidance is enabled, but no voice

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Sorry, I can't help with an IPhone.
But there must be something similar to what there is on my Android phone

Under settings
Download maps
and near the end an entry called
Voice prompts (TTS, preferred)
If you tap on this you see a (long) list of possible languages.
On the right of an installed language there are three vertical dots.
If you tap on these there is an option to remove this language package.
After that you can (re-) install it.

I don't know if there is a development plugin on an IPhone to test voices.
Hopefully someone reading mailing list owns an IPhone and can help with this
Helmut

Jazz  schrieb am Do., 17. Dez. 2020, 16:44:

> Thank you. Sorry to say, but I cannot (un)install a voice. Neither can I
> find development menu.. On an iPhone
>
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 22:20, Helmut Jarausch  wrote:
>
>> Uninstall the selected voice file and reinstall it.
>> Go the development menu, there is an item to test voices.
>> This helped me some time ago.
>>
>>
>> Jazzz  schrieb am Mi., 16. Dez. 2020, 21:36:
>>
>>> A few months ago voice guidance stopped. It's enabled, a language
>>> selected, volume up, but no sound. What could this be? (Sound from radio
>>> etc. functions fine)
>>> Suggestions are appreciated
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Re: voice guidance is enabled, but no voice

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Uninstall the selected voice file and reinstall it.
Go the development menu, there is an item to test voices.
This helped me some time ago.


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> A few months ago voice guidance stopped. It's enabled, a language
> selected, volume up, but no sound. What could this be? (Sound from radio
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> Suggestions are appreciated
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Region containing a city - how to find out

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Hi,
the map of many countries is divided into several regions.
Is there an easy way to find out which region contains a given city?
E.g., which map of Germany contains the city Koblenz?
Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut

lodrog...@gmail.com  schrieb am So., 4. Juli 2021,
16:20:

> Don't waste your time with scientific analysis about the route algorithm
> of osmand. After 10 years, the company has decided to choose this working
> philosophy, for some reasons. It will be never like the sygic aura, tomtom
> go, or here we go. Osmand it is not a true city navigation software, it is
> an adventure app
> this is my opinion
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Re: Navigation Bewegungsrichtung

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Einstellungen (Profil auswählen)
  Navigationseinztellungen
 Karte während Navigation
Kartenausrichtungsgrenzwert
   z.B. 0 km/h


Milow Chihuahua  schrieb am Di., 4. Mai 2021,
12:53:

> Hallo,
>
>
>
> ich nutze OSMAND nun schon seit vielen Jahren recht intensiv.
>
> Für folgendes Problem habe ich bis heute keine Lösung gefunden:
>
> Wenn ich die Bildschirmausrichting nach Bewegungrichtung einstelle,
>
> dauert es oft zu lang, bis der Bildschirm sich dreht. Wie kann ich
>
> dies beschleunigen.
>
>
>
> Es wäre super, wenn jemand eine Lösung hat.
>
>
>
> Gruß Steffen
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Re: How to change the heuristicCoeffient?

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Yes, I have



 schrieb am Sa., 13. März 2021, 18:41:

> You should not only rename the routing.xml to car15.xml but also the
> header of the profile like
>  minSpeed="20.0" defaultSpeed="45.0" maxSpeed="130.0" leftTurn="5"
> rightTurn="5" roundaboutTurn="5" onewayAware="true"
> heuristicCoefficient="1.5">
>
> Did you do that?
> And you can remove all explanatory text above and all other profiles below
> the modified profile. That makes the file ~3kb instead of ~87 kb
>
> Op za 13 mrt. 2021 om 17:43 schreef hjar...@gmail.com  >:
>
>> As in previous versions of OSMAnd, I have downloaded the current
>> routing.xml file.
>> I've changed the name from car to the car15 and I have set the
>> heuristicCoeffient to 1.5.
>> I have copied this file to Android/data/net.osmand.plus/files/routing.
>> After restarting OSMAnd I don't see the new car15 profile.
>> What am I missing?
>> Many thanks for a hint,
>> Helmut
>> P.S. I am using a recent developer version 4.0
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Re: How to change the heuristicCoeffient?

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Hi Harry, may I ask you to have a look at my xml file.
Can you change the heuristicCoeffient with a bleeding edge version of
OSMAnd?
On my device the file car15.xml gets removed from  . /files/routing.
Thanks,
Helmut

Harry van der Wolf  schrieb am Sa., 13. März 2021, 19:30:

>
>
> Op za 13 mrt. 2021 om 19:15 schreef Helmut Jarausch :
>
>>
>> Furthermore, the file "mycar15" in Android/data/net.osmand.plus/routing
>> gets deleted after the next restart of OSMAnd. This happened earlier.
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
> Strange. I have never seen that.
> Try to reboot your phone and before starting osmand to add the  profile.
> Just to make sure: you type "mycar15", but I assume you mean "mycar15.xml"
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Re: How to change the heuristicCoeffient?

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Many thanks Harry!
Your file works just fine here.
Helmut

Harry van der Wolf  schrieb am Do., 18. März 2021, 20:54:

>
>
> Op do 18 mrt. 2021 om 14:41 schreef Helmut Jarausch :
>
>> Hi Harry, may I ask you to have a look at my xml file.
>> Can you change the heuristicCoeffient with a bleeding edge version of
>> OSMAnd?
>> On my device the file car15.xml gets removed from  . /files/routing.
>> Thanks,
>> Helmut
>>
>>
> It works for me. I just downloaded the latest nightly and copied my own
> mycar15.xml into the routing folder.
> I started OsmAnd dev and created a new profile, where you first have to
> choose one of the standard profiles, in this case Car.
> I saved the profile, reopened it and under navigation settings now
> selected my mycar15.xml profile.
> It does not work immediately for some reason. I don't know why, and I
> don't know either whether it previously worked when clicking "Create new
> profile" and immediately being able to select the new one.
> Also when creating another new profile I can not directly select my
> mycar15.xml, but only the existing profiles, where my previously created
> profile "auto 1.5" is one of them.
>
> See attached if you want to test mine and compare it with yours.
> Feel free to share yours so I can have a look at it.
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Re: Background location permission

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I am using the last build "full android" on Lineageos 17.1 - which is
Android 10 - WITHOUT any problems.

Mikkel  schrieb am Fr., 5. Feb. 2021, 18:03:

> I am seeing the same message on Android 10 Motorola.
>
> torsdag den 4. februar 2021 kl. 13.26.02 UTC+1 skrev
> tim.pas...@googlemail.com:
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>> After the latest update (3.9.4 on 2021-01-29) I get the following message
>> on my Android 10 Samsung all the time when tracking where I am going:
>>
>> "The Background Navigation service requires a location provider to be
>> turned on."
>>
>> There is currently no permission option available to the user to support
>> background location for OSMAND+.  As I understand it, in Android 10 (and
>> 11) the app has to explicitly declare that it needs such access, and then
>> the user can allow it or not.
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Re: OSMand is now a slave app of google play services

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I don't understand your problem at all. I myself started out with the paid
version on Google Play. But now I tap on 'builds' and download the latest
version 'android full' just done so today (it's a 4.0 version)
I have all features of the paid version - no need for Google any more.


Egal  schrieb am So., 14. Feb. 2021, 15:44:

>
>
> Harry, you know why I download OSMand from Google Play Store: I downloaded
> a paid OSMand first time there and since this first download I'm a slave of
> Google. Yes, I hate that (and many other peoples, too), but I can't change
> that now. You also know, that F-Droid don't offers a complete version of
> OSMand and you know that the newest version of OSMand is offered there with
> a delay of some weeks. Sometimes F-Droid offers the newest version never.
> When you know that all: Why do you ask me that ? It's pure rhetoric from
> you ! It seems, that you are the troll here and that you don't tolerate
> critics against OSMand.
> I paid for OSMand, but with the versions 3.9.3, 3.9.4, 3.9.5 and 3.9.6
> OSMand closes the door for me by including Google spy software which blocks
> the app when the google play (spy) services are not active. That is not OK
> ! The alternate versions shows, that OSMand can work without the google spy
> services.
> Yes, I hate Google because it is grown to a moloch which spies everywhere
> in my life, when I'm online. I can't change that, but I can protest against
> it. When a previously google free app becomes a google slave app, I protest
> against that. I'm not a troll, I'm a free man, who wants to keep free.
> pebo...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2021 um 19:38:41
> UTC+1:
>
>> Thanks, Harry (I love you :-)
>> Peter
>>
>> hvd...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2021 um 18:42:13
>> UTC+1:
>>
>>> And if you are such a hater of the Google services, why do you even
>>> download from Google Play? That is in total contradiction with your
>>> arguments. You even use a gmail account ! What do you actually expect?
>>> If you are here to troll, then please do it somewhere else.
>>>
>>> If you want to be free from Google, then remove your Account settings
>>> from your phone. download from F-droid (or less preferable: from Amazon).
>>> F-droid is normally slightly behind in releases but if you want free
>>> open-source software, you should go to F-droid.
>>> Also: look for LineageOS for your phone
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> Op do 4 feb. 2021 om 17:46 schreef Peter B :
>>>
 Victor (vshcherb) wrote that there are 3 versions of osmand which are
 usable without Goofgle Play services.
 And there are a lot of comments of experienced people who can't confirm
 the problem.
 It is a good idea to read the whole thread.
 https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues/10637


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> Since version 3.9.3 in OSMand the GPS don't works when
> you downloaded the app from Google Play Store and you use your device
> offline without google play services.
> So do I. Since version 3.9.3 (also 3.9.4 and 3.9.5) routing is
> impossible for me because OSMand now don't activates the GPS. In versions
> 3.9.1 beta and 3.9.2 beta and all previous versions the GPS worked 
> normaly.
> It seems, that OSMand is now an new slave of the google services. As
> vshcherb (the main developer) wrote:
> "Google Play version very likely won't be working correctly if Google
> Play Services are not installed. There are many limitation in Google Play
> right now, so we won't be able to distribute previous version that used 
> GPS
> without Google Play Services."
> This is the end of the app free of google services. OSMand turns now
> to a google slave app with build in google spies. This was a very bad
> decision of the app developer .
>
> Please send your protest to the developer.
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Re: OSMand is now a slave app of google play services

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Go to settings / extensions and activate the OS And-development extension.
After that the Builds button appears.

Egal  schrieb am So., 14. Feb. 2021, 23:29:

> @Helmut:
> You wrote: "But now I tap on 'builds' and download the latest version ".
> Sorry, perhaps I'm stupid but were do you tap on "builds" ?
>
> @Xavier:
> Do you have experience with microG ? Is it in an useable state ? Will it
> solve in its actual state the new problem of OSMand with GPS ?
>
> Xavier schrieb am Sonntag, 14. Februar 2021 um 16:58:22 UTC+1:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 06:44:55AM -0800, Egal wrote:
>> >You also know, that F-Droid don't offers a complete version of OSMand
>>
>> What, specifically, is missing from the F-Droid version?
>>
>> >I paid for OSMand, but with the versions 3.9.3, 3.9.4, 3.9.5 and 3.9.6
>> >OSMand closes the door for me by including Google spy software which
>> >blocks the app when the google play (spy) services are not active.
>> >That is not OK
>>
>> You are correct, that is not OK. However your anger is being directed
>> at the wrong entity. OSMAnd is not "including Google spy software".
>> OSMAnd is simply playing withing the rather strict rules set out by
>> Google.
>>
>> Google has been restricting access to everything on Android, and
>> funneling everything, more and more, through Google Play Services with
>> each update they make to Android. And access to GPS data is but one of
>> the data sets that Google has been restricting in this way on Android.
>> This is the reason for the existance of the microG project
>> (https://microg.org/), an attempt to provide an alternative access
>> point for those same API's but without including the google spy machine
>> in the process.
>>
>> It is not OSMAnd's fault that in order to run on a standard Android
>> base (which is what, but for the select few, all Android phones run)
>> that Google requires that they make use of the google play services
>> component. Google has forced that upon them. You should direct your
>> anger at Google, not at OSMAnd.
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Re: OSMand is now a slave app of google play services

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Download the Android-full version from
https://download.osmand.net/latest-night-build/
Later, I use the Builds button to download and install an update from
within OSMAnd


Egal  schrieb am Mo., 15. Feb. 2021, 15:23:

> @Helmut:
> Sorry again, but I have activated the OSMand-development extension but the
> button "Builds" appears nowhere in OSMand. Where appears it in your app ?
> Do you update OSMand from inside of the app ?
>
> hjar...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 15. Februar 2021 um 14:25:47 UTC+1:
>
>> Go to settings / extensions and activate the OS And-development extension.
>> After that the Builds button appears.
>>
>> Egal  schrieb am So., 14. Feb. 2021, 23:29:
>>
>>> @Helmut:
>>> You wrote: "But now I tap on 'builds' and download the latest version ".
>>> Sorry, perhaps I'm stupid but were do you tap on "builds" ?
>>>
>>> @Xavier:
>>> Do you have experience with microG ? Is it in an useable state ? Will it
>>> solve in its actual state the new problem of OSMand with GPS ?
>>>
>>> Xavier schrieb am Sonntag, 14. Februar 2021 um 16:58:22 UTC+1:
>>>
 On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 06:44:55AM -0800, Egal wrote:
 >You also know, that F-Droid don't offers a complete version of OSMand

 What, specifically, is missing from the F-Droid version?

 >I paid for OSMand, but with the versions 3.9.3, 3.9.4, 3.9.5 and 3.9.6
 >OSMand closes the door for me by including Google spy software which
 >blocks the app when the google play (spy) services are not active.
 >That is not OK

 You are correct, that is not OK. However your anger is being directed
 at the wrong entity. OSMAnd is not "including Google spy software".
 OSMAnd is simply playing withing the rather strict rules set out by
 Google.

 Google has been restricting access to everything on Android, and
 funneling everything, more and more, through Google Play Services with
 each update they make to Android. And access to GPS data is but one of
 the data sets that Google has been restricting in this way on Android.
 This is the reason for the existance of the microG project
 (https://microg.org/), an attempt to provide an alternative access
 point for those same API's but without including the google spy machine
 in the process.

 It is not OSMAnd's fault that in order to run on a standard Android
 base (which is what, but for the select few, all Android phones run)
 that Google requires that they make use of the google play services
 component. Google has forced that upon them. You should direct your
 anger at Google, not at OSMAnd.

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How to change the position of a favourite point

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When I go to a favourite point and press the "actions" button, the item to
move the point is greyed out. What am I missing?
Many thanks for hint,
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Re: Move maps to new phone

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Install Totalcommander on both devices.
Then copy the folder /Android/data/net.osmand.plus/files
from one device to the other device using copy by WLAN. Totalcommander can
even establish a WLAN hotspot which is also the fastest way to the files
copied.

Artur R. Czechowski  schrieb am Mi., 28. Juli 2021,
23:14:

> Hi,
> I've got a brand new phone (Android based) and moved settings/data/apps
> from the old one. It seems the OsmAnd settings have been migrated
> correctly. However I need to choose maps I want to have installed again. Do
> you know if there is a way to get a list of maps from old phone and install
> them on the new one without going manually through Download maps menu?
>
> Best regards
> Artur
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Re: New phone- old favorites??

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Just go the favorites and press the share button at the bottom.
The favorites can be sent by email to your new phone.


tnort...@gmail.com  schrieb am Sa., 29. Jan. 2022,
14:11:

> Is there a way to transfer all the old favorite places I have starred to
> my new phone?
>
> Tom
> NE Ohio
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Re: new german female voice much worse than before

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Go to
extension -> OSMAnd-development -> check voice announcements
(the terms might differ since I just translated the German terms)

ra  schrieb am Di., 8. Nov. 2022, 11:28:

> ... is there a way to hear them before action, at home? I always thought
> it were osmands voices, as it downloads them. if so (and not google!): does
> anyone know if and WHY osmand then changed the perfect german female voice?
>
> pere...@gmail.com schrieb am Dienstag, 8. November 2022 um 07:30:22 UTC+1:
>
>> No idea of what happened, just noting a couple of things that still had
>> not been mentioned:
>> Osmand by default uses the tts engine available in the device, mostly
>> google, but users can install own tts engines.
>> Also, osmand offers to download pre-recorded, not tts, voice guidances.
>>
>>
>>
>> El 3 de novembre de 2022 14:55:43 CET, 'Ed f' via OsmAnd <
>> osm...@googlegroups.com> ha escrit:
>>>
>>> since a few weeks, not more than a month, without me changing anything
>>> actively, the standard german announcing voice in osmand has changed, and
>>> much to the worse. I was always happy with the previous (which was in every
>>> respect so much better than i.e. that from google maps!), but now there is
>>> that sad sounding new voice which shocked me when I suddenly heard it for
>>> the first time and ever again ever since. how can I get the old one back?
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Re: Display elevation of a place tapped on

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The version android-full-arm doesn't have this option.
And version master-OpenGL cannot be installed on my Android 8.1 phone.

Dmytro Prodchenko  schrieb am Do., 1. Juni 2023, 09:43:

> Hi!
> Accuracy will be from 5 to 15 meters depend on place.
> To test this feature OsmAnd Pro is needed. You need to activate it in Menu
> – Plugins – OsmAnd Development – Test height map, after this new map will
> be available in the downloads.
>
> On Monday, 29 May 2023 at 17:04:07 UTC+3 lodrog...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 11:34:43 AM UTC+3 dmpr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Hello! Thank you for the feedback.
>> It will be available soon with new Terrain map. Currently it only
>> available in nightly builds.
>>
>>
>> thanks for the info.
>> Will this new function appears with the 4.5 version ? into the download
>> section, we will found a reminder for update of srtm files ?
>> - what accuracy will be available ? 1" or 3" ?
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