RE: [PAYCO]

2013-12-09 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Sibeko I should say that I understand and agree with the sentiment not to make an outburst and miscalculated statement on Nelson Mandela during the mourning period when the glare and attention of the nation and the rest of the world is concerned about his passing. But I am a disciplined

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO

2013-11-15 Thread Jaki Seroke
. Izwe Jaki Seroke Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:33:43 +0200 Subject: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO From: fikis...@gmail.com To: payco@googlegroups.com Ma'Afrika Attached is our DRAFT manifesto for the 2014 elections. Izwe lethu -- -- Sending your posting

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO

2013-11-15 Thread Jaki Seroke
. Izwe Jaki Seroke Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:33:43 +0200 Subject: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO From: fikis...@gmail.com To: payco@googlegroups.com Ma'Afrika Attached is our DRAFT manifesto for the 2014 elections. Izwe lethu -- -- Sending your posting

RE: [PAYCO]

2013-11-12 Thread Jaki Seroke
wish you all the best in the Daveyton branch. The road is much longer. Izwe lethu iAfrika Jaki Seroke From: msib...@randwater.co.za To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 19:15:57 + Cde Nkrumah, Ndebele, Seroke It is almost twenty years since we

[PAYCO] MXOLISI ACE MGXASHE - 1944-2013

2013-07-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
of the soil has fallen. Izwe Jaki Seroke -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website

RE: [PAYCO]

2013-03-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
Dr Motsoko Pheko used the name Ethel Kopung and David Dube as his pen names in the sixties, seventies and eighties. He published books using these and other names. From: msib...@randwater.co.za To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:22:29 + Cde

Re: [PAYCO] PAC POSITION TOWARDS PAYCO CONGRESS

2013-02-14 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Lebo I find it difficult to grasp the primary issue PAYCO and the Narius Moloto's office are trying to resolve. Are they working out a merger of PAYCO and PAC Youth League on the basis of the Ga-Matlala congress amended constitution that is now resorted to by the PAC establishment? Is

Re: [PAYCO] Prince Osagyefo Jinika Is No More

2013-02-08 Thread Jaki Seroke
, Kwame Nkrumah and Kwame Toure. The sad news of his sudden passing hits home very hard. They also mean a re-awakening to his push for a well organised and ideologically sound PAC. Izwe lethu iAfrika. Jaki Seroke Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message

Re: [PAYCO] Hostile attitude towards socialism/communism is anchored on sheer ignorance

2013-01-10 Thread Jaki Seroke
We will obviously get nowhere if we discuss the ideological standpoint of the PAC using the current shipwreck as a reference point. This is the arena where ignorance, obfuscation and political bankruptcy holds sway. Pan Africanism, as a world-wide movement, is a united front. All tendencies

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-09-21 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades Thabo Mbeki's leadership had its ups and downs, and it even affected our political space in the Africanist school of thought because he usurped that position. In a way he became more Catholic than the Pope. He even used some of our best brains to articulate changes in the new

RE: [PAYCO] THE INTRINSIC VALUE OF EACH CITIZEN IN SA

2012-09-20 Thread Jaki Seroke
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jaki Seroke Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:03 AM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] THE INTRINSIC VALUE OF EACH CITIZEN IN SA M'afrika Mduduzi Sibeko The republic of South Africa is often described in glorious terms in international forums

[PAYCO] THE INTRINSIC VALUE OF EACH CITIZEN IN SA

2012-09-19 Thread Jaki Seroke
M'afrika Mduduzi Sibeko The republic of South Africa is often described in glorious terms in international forums for a variety of reasons. The core issues that negatively affect the lives of its citizens are mostly ignored in the very same circles, and when a social implosion occurs the

RE: [PAYCO] Emailing: 6 MAY RUSTENBURG REVIEW FINAL EDIT.pdf

2012-08-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
the national question, we seriously and urgently need to get our house back on track. Izwe lethu ...i-AfrikaSebenzile From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jaki Seroke Sent: 21 August 2012 12:06 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Emailing: 6 MAY

RE: [PAYCO] Emailing: 6 MAY RUSTENBURG REVIEW FINAL EDIT.pdf

2012-08-21 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades TT and Nkrumah The Benchmark Research gives a detailed background to the conditions which formed the basis of mass protests by the communities in Rustenburg and surrounding areas, and Nkrumah lays out the internal conflicts in the mines between management and the unions on the

[PAYCO] REMEMBER AFRICA EXHIBITION - CONSTITUTION HILL

2012-06-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades and friends Last night I attended the opening of the Remember Africa Exhibition at the Old Fort Prison in Braamfontein, Jozi (This is at the new Constitution Hill, at the Contitutional Court site). I had also been asked to speak on behalf of Mme Veronica Sobukwe and the Robert

Re: [PAYCO] Black people are incapable of being racists

2012-05-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
Good day I find that Andile's comments are spot on. In today's heteronomy (plural society), political and economic power is skewed in favour of the descendants of foreign invasion. Politically, the dominating views are based on a falsehood propounded by the strictures of the 1956 Kliptown

Re: [PAYCO] PROF KWANDIWE KONDLO ON SACP

2012-05-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
email find you! -Original Message- From: Jaki Seroke sero...@hotmail.com Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 12:08:25 To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] PROF KWANDIWE KONDLO ON SACP Comrades Sibeko and Xaba   Kwandile Kondlo's inaugural lecture at the University of the Free State

[PAYCO] PAC and AZAPO on etv's the JUSTICE FACTOR

2012-05-06 Thread Jaki Seroke
do harakiri (the Japanese method of suicide) by warriors who shamed and dishonored their great movement. Jaki Seroke Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr

Re: RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE

2012-04-04 Thread Jaki Seroke
will it address the socio-economic disparities created by apartheid. Are we communist in disguise ?   From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:28 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: Sbu Xaba; Jaki Seroke Subject: Re

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-03-26 Thread Jaki Seroke
Mduduzi I realise the widespread lack of information and knowledge, even among some of our own comrades, which leads others to speak out of turn, sometimes misrepresenting facts and appearing dull and dour when subjects they are supposed to be familiar with are discussed in the open. We

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-03-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
M'afrika Christine Qunta, an Africanist who served on the SABC Board during the Thabo Mbeki era, should be congratulated for the success in insisting that the public broadcaster spend up to R4m on the documentary. The outcomes of the work done, and the footage makes for interesting viewing

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-02-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
A quick response to your concerns: Anyone who has not read or came across the rubric (the framing of the discourse) on why the Pan Africans rejected the Muscovite communism will always assume - as the press has always done - that the PAC and its associates are against the ideals of a new

RE: [PAYCO]

2012-02-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
!From: Jaki Seroke sero...@hotmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:31:57 +0200To: payco@googlegroups.comReplyTo: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] A quick response to your concerns: Anyone who has not read or came across the rubric (the framing

RE: [PAYCO] STRATEGIC PLANNING, IMPLEMENTATION AND CONTROL

2012-01-27 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Mduduzi I had an interesting discussion with a young revolutionary Pan Africanist early in the first week of this month. He posed the rubric that what was essential in sorting out the perennial difficulties of the PAC as a political party and its association with the worldwide Pan

Re: [PAYCO] PITIKA NTULI

2011-10-04 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Sibeko I've known Pitika since 1978 when the Swazi government locked up PAC leaders in the area and they were made victims of circumstances, with PK Leballo feeling threatened as Acting President. A friend and comrade, Matsemela Manaka, had links with Bicca Maseko's family in Mbabane and

[PAYCO] RE: Farewell Bra Joe

2011-09-16 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Tyamzashe Joe Moabi was the Secretary for Finance in the Central Committee of the PAC of Azania in the external mission. It was fitting that at his memorial service at the Holy Family Catholic Church in Spruitview on Wednesday afternoon, many of his comrades and friends, and allies of

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-09-13 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades The PAC has not developed an economic policy document, and taken it through structures for discussion and adoption at a policy conference. What we've had are stop gap documents for elections purposes, and in most of these there hasn't been any feedback and forums to ventilate the

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-09-05 Thread Jaki Seroke
. In reality the tax will never happen because it is a non starter. Izwe lethu iAfurika Jaki Seroke Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Mduduzi Sibeko msib...@randwater.co.za Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 10:46:26 To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject

RE: [PAYCO] FW:

2011-08-22 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Sbu I had the flu last week and couldn't respond in time to the issues you raised in the your interesting email. Several other topical matters of the day arose, such as the sudden death of Rex Nhongo (Gen Solomon Mujuru) in Zimbabwe and what this implies to ZANU-PF, and the continuing

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-06-14 Thread Jaki Seroke
Message- From: Sebenzile Mlaza sebenzi...@raf.co.za Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:56:45 To: payco@googlegroups.com; msib...@randwater.co.za Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Revolutionary greetings to all, An email hereunder by Comrade Jaki Seroke reminds me of one documentary that was televised on the 19th

Re: [PAYCO]

2011-06-13 Thread Jaki Seroke
Noble sons I'm obsessed with the interpretation of the PAC's historical role in the transformation and change programme for Azania. PAC's purpose is for me what matters most, and if we all do not find common ground in the long term vision and the immediate objectives of the Party, we'll

RE: [PAYCO] JAN SHOBA - APLA HIGH COMMAND

2011-04-30 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades For me, Jan Shoba represents the quality of commitment to national duty that is common among members of Apla leadership in the eighties. They were determined to implement the home going programme for Apla forces, and to re-introduce the PAC as a dynamic entity of the national

RE: [PAYCO] ROBERT MCBRIDE

2011-04-30 Thread Jaki Seroke
Ntate Sibeko I experienced difficulties with my laptop and Blackberry for almost two weeks. The system collapsed and the long lay-off in April gave me time to handle challenges to do with my preparations for UNISA exams in May. My apology for not responding to your mails. The outcome of

RE: [PAYCO] SOMETIMES THERE IS A VOID

2011-04-14 Thread Jaki Seroke
of the COSAW, what was the role of this organization in the eighties ? From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jaki Seroke Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:26 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] SOMETIMES THERE IS A VOID Mduduzi Zakes Mda's new book

[PAYCO] SOMETIMES THERE IS A VOID

2011-04-13 Thread Jaki Seroke
Mduduzi Zakes Mda's new book, Sometimes There is a Void - Memoirs of an Outsider, Penguin 2011, is an interesting insight into the author's development and growth as an artist and writer, and an academic teaching creative writing. It is also very revealing on aspects of the life of AP Mda,

RE: [PAYCO]

2011-03-18 Thread Jaki Seroke
Mdu I'm told the 6th annual Robert Sobukwe memorial lecture at Fort Hare, delivered yesterday by Kwandiwe Kondlo, was superb. As you'd know, Kondlo made extensive research on the PAC in exile and collated vital records and relevant information for his doctoral thesis done with the Rand

RE: [PAYCO] VICTOR MAYEKISO

2011-03-17 Thread Jaki Seroke
He is an old cadre of the PAC and served in the APLA ranks when the organisation started training recruits militarily from 1964 onwards. He is credited with opening the channels for training guerrillas in Egypt (during Nasser) and in Libya soon after the coup led by Colonel Muamar Gaddafi. I

RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE PHOTO

2010-11-23 Thread Jaki Seroke
/culture/museums-galleries (This letter was sent electronically and is therefore not signed) Jaki Seroke sero...@hotmail.com Sent by: payco@googlegroups.com 11/18/2010 05:44 PM Please respond to payco To:Mduduzi Sibeko msib...@randwater.co.za, payco

[PAYCO] SABCNews.com e-mail service [em...@sabcnews.com]

2010-10-25 Thread Jaki Seroke
Headline: Khoisan X laid to rest Abstract: Former Pan African Congress (PAC) secretary general Benny Alexander, also known as Khoisan X has been buried in Kimberley in the Northern Cape today. Article URL: Click on the Link to go to the full Article

[PAYCO] KHOISAN X - MEMORIAL AND FUNERAL

2010-10-17 Thread Jaki Seroke
of character. Izwe lethu iAfrika. Jaki Seroke -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website

[PAYCO] EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE

2010-09-02 Thread Jaki Seroke
on the subject and tomes of books published . A spelling error on my name is not significant enough. What's in a name? A rose in a different name will smell just as good. William Shakespeare. Izwe lethu iAfrika. Jaki Seroke Subject: Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 12:51:18 +0200 From: msib

[PAYCO] WE WILL WIN

2010-08-17 Thread Jaki Seroke
to a cultural heritage are immense. I go along with him (and yourself) that We Will Win. Izwe lethu iAfrika. Jaki Seroke Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 10:35:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [PAYCO] From: mokgakalaser...@gmail.com To: payco@googlegroups.com I Salute you Noble Son Of Africa!! I am

RE: [PAYCO]

2010-08-04 Thread Jaki Seroke
expect from us - we who are committed to the PAC's objectives and are in the Africanist school of thought - is to get our house in order. No stupid rantings and no flies. Izwe lethu iAfrika. Jaki Seroke Subject: [PAYCO] Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:26:20 +0200 From: msib

RE: [PAYCO] THE STRUGGLE TO REBUILD THE PAC

2010-07-28 Thread Jaki Seroke
and bring about a good quality of life to the African people. We must demonstrate that potential by first transforming and repositioning the PAC. Jaki Seroke Subject: [PAYCO] Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:38:27 +0200 From: msib...@randwater.co.za To: payco@googlegroups.com

RE: [PAYCO] Re: KA-PLAATJIE JOINS ANC

2010-06-08 Thread Jaki Seroke
Jean Paul Satre once said: Words are loaded pistols. The mindless use of language and misuse of concepts that are half digested often have a lasting detrimental effect on those that we seek to mobilise. What amuses me is the choice of words used by Moloto earlier on in which he copies

[PAYCO] RE:

2010-05-18 Thread Jaki Seroke
RComrades I support the sentiment expressed and the need to bring to the fore the true patriotic heroes who left an imprint of their contributions to change South Africa. David Sibeko mobilised the entire world at the UN to actively support the struggle against apartheid and settler