Re: [QUAD-L] Phoenix Disability Expo

[wheelchair]

Ability Expos are a great start and reference for those in need. I do the 
Chicago Show every year (except this year) and enjoy while I learn of new 
equipment, technology and government social services that are available.  I 
encourage everyone, and anyone to try and attend any of the 5 Abilities Expo, 
if they can.
Best Wishes !  
In a message dated 8/2/2022 12:19:12 PM Central Standard Time, 
whee...@wi.rr.com writes: 
I usually go to the Chicago expo every year.  It's free and something to do.  
There is usually at least one workshop that I will find interesting.  I went to 
a workshop on medical marijuana a couple years ago and one on cell phones 
features for people with disabilities.  I actually subscribe to the disability 
expo newsletter.  That's more valuable than going to one expo.  That's how I 
found out about this   https://handicup.com/  best cup holder ever 
On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 9:01 PM Greg  wrote:
Anyone of you guys going to the Phoenix Disability Expo?

I haven't been to one in about 15 years. I'm about 40 years post. If I'm not 
really looking for anything specific, are they worth going to?


Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] 33 years

[wheelchair]

And on this very same day, the earth took another deep breath and the world 
changed.  Consider all that you have done for this world..
Best Wishes ! 
In a message dated 5/17/2022 7:20:05 PM Central Standard Time, jlu...@makoa.org 
writes: 
Today marks 33 years since my transverse myelitis onset. I woke up with a pain 
in my shoulder. Two hours later I could not remain able to stand and then 
stopped breathing. I have been paralyzed from the neck down and dependent on a 
ventilator to breathe to keep me alive ever since. I am otherwise in great 
health and not in pain, so life is good.

Re: [QUAD-L] Sunshine

[wheelchair]

Sun, is good.  Its good for you.  It's a great source of Vit D.  But like all 
those thing that are good for you too much may not be healthy.  For 
example, when its 20 degrees outside and 12 inches of snow on the ground, but 
its sunny... being outdoors may not be the best.  Just be sure that you and 
your body doesn't overheat.Stay Strong-Live Long!Best Wishes In a message dated 
12/10/2020 6:46:09 PM Central Standard Time, g...@eskimo.com writes: 
I am so addicted to sunshine, I find it hard to stay inside on sunny days. So 
much so, I end up not doing things I'm supposed to be doing. I just put things 
off and say I'll do it later, but end up to late.
When inside and I know it's sunny, thats all I think about, knowing I'm missing 
it.

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] 52 anniversary

[wheelchair]

Happy n Healthy Anniversary Nan !  May You Continue To Stay Healthy !Best Wishes
In a message dated 6/7/2020 5:26:52 PM Central Standard Time, 
nlg52...@gmail.com writes:


Today is the of my accident. I am so blessed to have had such a full life! 

  

Nan, C5/6 complete.

 

Nancy Gillen

Re: [QUAD-L] handicapped van with no steering wheel

[wheelchair]

If I may. Not sure if you are referring to EDC or spinner knob mounted on 
the steering wheels or Zero-Effort Steering.EDC, are custom fitting, custom 
designed and special ordered to meet a single person's application.  Your state 
Vocational Ed Department might be the best way to proceed.Best Wishes, (and I 
mean that)


In a message dated 3/22/2020 8:40:31 PM Central Standard Time, 
gah17...@gmail.com writes:

I am looking to find out if anyone knows of a handicap van  for  sale that uses 
a joystick for steering? There is also an horizontal offset steering wheel but 
I'm not sure how that works.It doesn't have to be the nicest fan, just works 
and the wheels go round.

Re: [QUAD-L] Quantum Rival ( Charging Up )

[wheelchair]

The age of your batteries, might be affecting the charging issue. If you can 
remove the batteries and charge them individually, you can determine the actual 
cause.  You could have a loose battery nut or connection that is affecting the 
charging process. Have you tried your 24 volt charger on any other chair?Best 
Wishes
In a message dated 7/13/2019 12:45:16 PM Central Standard Time, 
ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes:

Hi- All I have been in power-chairs for about 22 years but never had any 
charging or charger problems. Starting 2 nights ago my chair did not charge at 
all, so my wife thought she must not have plugged it in right, then last night 
it would not charge once again--So today we tried it for over an hour with no 
luck,  Have any of you ever had this problem?? I don't know if it can be the 
Charger or in the Chair? My battery power shows less than half power now and my 
Wheelchair Repair Shop only works Monday-Thru Friday. ( Hope I can figure it 
out or get help on Monday )   Thanks !    Dan H.***

Re: [QUAD-L] They Tried To Take My Chair Back

[wheelchair]

There is a packet of paperwork you signed, or were suppose to sign upon 
receiving your new chair.  One page in the booklet is "rent sheet or to own 
paper" you would have to sign.  Apparently, from your story, it wasn't signed 
and they didn't tell you.  Consider yourself most lucky and hopefully others 
will learn from your experience.   Happy New Year.
Best Wishes
In a message dated 12/29/2018 6:21:10 PM Central Standard Time, g...@eskimo.com 
writes:


I had to get a new power wheelchair. My old one was so old, you could no longer 
get parts. About 6 months after getting the new chair, I switched my health 
insurance company. A month later the old insurance calls telling me they want 
the custom fit, power chair, co-pay paid for, BACK. Without ever telling me 
before, they now say it was a 2 year “rent to own”. That I need to get my new 
insurance to buy me a new chair. Which means another 20% co-pay. I was not 
happy. Lots of fighting over the phone, appeals, etc., things finely got worked 
out and I get to keep the chair. Thats so unfair to even try that. The main 
reason I won was because they never told me it was "Rent to own.” They were 
supposed to tell me in writing beforehand

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] EZ Lock

[wheelchair]

EZ Lock Systems, are a high liability tickets.  Improper installations could 
cause damage, injury and death.  The Manufacturer will only allow authorized 
and certified stallers to perform the task.  I know you don't like it but that 
is the way it is.  You can try E-Bay and Good Luck.
Best Wishes
In a message dated 12/19/2018 4:20:13 PM Central Standard Time, 
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:


I got a new power chair and need a new EZ Lock bracket. Does anyone know

A place where I can just purchase the bracket and my brother can put it on?

 

I already have the docking station in my van, just need the bracket

And don’t want to pay 3 hrs labor.

 

Merry Christmas

Nicki

Re: [QUAD-L] Botox For Bladder Spasms

[wheelchair]

Botox injections are not new and for some can be very effective.  Just make 
sure that your body is not allergic to that type of bacteria.This procedure is 
also used on able-bodied with lack of bladder control.  I hope its effective 
for you.Best Wishes

In a message dated 11/16/2018 5:03:36 PM Central Standard Time, 
pjacob...@san.rr.com writes:

Hi, anyone done this?  Strongly considering and would love tohear your 
experiences.
Thank you,Paul c5/6  15 years postSan Diego, CA

Re: [QUAD-L] Motorized wheelchair question

[wheelchair]

Nursing Homes are not required to provide electric wheelchairs and they 
generally don't.  Independent Living Centers do allow motorized wheelchair.   I 
would google, Centers for Independent Living (CILs) in your area for help and 
assistance.  If your nursing home receives Federal Funding, they MUST be in 
compliance with ADA in allowing motorized wheelchairs.  Don't Take No For An 
Answer.
 
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 8/24/2018 1:09:47 PM Central Standard Time, 
n14...@hotmail.com writes:

 
 
I am in a nursing home and need a motorized wheelchair to be able to not be 
stuck in bed 24 seven because I am paralyzed from the neck down.
 
The administrator says this facility is not equipped to have a motorized 
wheelchair.
 
Because I never leave my room in this place, I have no idea what goes on 
outside my room but I just assumed they would have residents tooling around in 
their motorized wheelchairs. Apparently no one here has one. At the two other 
facilities I was in, people had them.
 
I think everyone else here is completely demented because I am the only one 
here that uses a computer.
 
Anyway I'm seeking information about how they can legally keep me separated 
from the medical equipment I need.

 
 
Debra Scruggs-Scruggs phalanx-dragon slayers -PRISONER OF HOPE ZECH. 9
 Formerly: Homeschooling mom of 9 and pvt. pilot
 Currently: tetrapeligic due to advanced MS and living in a nursing home hell 
18 years
 Phone: 561-58 6-9399
 SC student 20yrs  … can not brag about my love for YHVH God because I fail Him 
daily, but I can brag about His love for me because He never fails me.
 ROMANS 8:28… Kindness is the language the deaf can hear and the blind can see 
– Mark TwainB.I.B.L.E.-BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH
THE FACT THAT THERE IS A HIGHWAY TO HELL AND ONLY A STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN SAYS A 
LOT ABOUT ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC NUMBERS
Jesus is the living word

Re: [QUAD-L] Can u hear me?

[wheelchair]

Loud n Clear Billy!  Loud n Clear
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 8/16/2018 8:40:10 PM Central Standard Time, 
blan...@icloud.com writes:

 
 Hi guys, I know it has been a while but am I still on? Somehow my mailbox for 
quadlist is gone.

Billy Lang 29 yrs. post and still here

Bill Lang via IPAD HD

Re: [QUAD-L] Power Chair Mileage.

[wheelchair]

 
Government Ins, won't cover the cost of an odometer.  You have  a much better 
chance of recording miles with a Smart Phone.
Best Wishes
In a message dated 8/16/2018 12:43:03 PM Central Standard Time, 
whee...@wi.rr.com writes:

 
I wish my chair had an odometer.  I'm not sure why all chairs aren't equipped 
with one 

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Danny Hearn  wrote:
My current Power Chair is a  Rival Rear Wheel Drive, It is my 1st chair with an 
Odometer for Mileage. In The 1st Year and a Half I have had it, it now has 624 
Miles so far. Have any of you ever seen how many miles they have gone in Power 
Chairs?? I sure wish my other 3 Prior Chairs over the 21 plus years had had a 
mileage reader, so I'd know how many miles they logged or traveled. Thanks 
AllAny that know Mileage of theirs please post .   Dan H.***  St.Louis 
Area. Mo.  August 3rd made my 21 year post injury mark.

Re: [QUAD-L] 29th quad anniversary

[wheelchair]

Hi Jim.  Has it really been that long?  It doesn't seem...but yes time 
moves.  Its seems like just yesterday and yet... consider all those who you 
have come in contact with, since then. Consider all of those who you have 
inspired, impressed and motivated. Consider all the medical experts that you 
challenged. Those physical and occupational therapist you have moved.  I had 
not considered the miles you traveled either.
I continue to support your effort and hope you continue. to continue doing 
what you do, for yourself and so many others.  May You Continue To Do Well.  
Happy Anniversary ! Congrats and
Best Wishes !
 
In a message dated 5/17/2018 6:47:35 PM Central Standard Time, 
jlu...@eskimo.com writes:

 
Today marks the 29th year that I have survived the effects from Acute 
Idiopathic Transverse Myelitis! I woke up in the morning with a pain in my 
shoulder. About 2 hours later the pain intensified, I suddenly was unable to 
move and stopped breathing. It left me paralyzed from the neck down and 
dependent on a ventilator to breathe. Happy to be alive!

Re: [QUAD-L] Hill Rom bed/mattress problem

[wheelchair]

Hiya Bobbie,  Not sure if I provided this info 2 years ago when you were 
looking.  Hill Rom, is based in Batesville, IN.  Their direct number is 
812-934-.  Hill Rom Holdings, is based in downtown Chicago at 312-819-7200. 
 I hope this helps.
 
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 4/20/2018 4:28:13 PM Central Standard Time, 
bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com writes:

 
 2 years ago, this month, I bought a Hill Rom bed and an 8" alternating 
pressure mattress out-of-pocket. I also bought an extended warranty that goes 
till 2020

At the end of March the blower started making loud noises day and night, 
couldn't sleep.
I called the service tech department and it took 2 weeks before they got out 
here
Then a new motor was ordered and installed a few days later.

3 HOURS after the tech left it started making noise again and then at 5:45am it 
stopped alternating 

I called Thursday and informed Hill Rom tech support about the new problem 
At the end of today, Friday, nobody has gotten in touch with me 

I informed them that I have a stage 4 wound 

Question; who can I contact about this BIG problem?

I'd love to find out the number for corporate headquarters but have no idea how 

Help, I need advice 
Bobbie 



"Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi

Re: [QUAD-L] 45th Anniversary

[wheelchair]

Congratulations !  Congrats, Best Wishes !  You did it and I know it wasn't 
pleasant or easy.  May you continue to succeed and do well as you inspire 
others.
 
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 4/17/2018 11:44:44 AM Central Standard Time, 
bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com writes:

 
 Today is 45 freaking YEARS since I fell off a 250 Kawalski and broke C 5,6 at 
17 years old

My body is truly falling apart and hurts like HELL!

I met Pete 9 years later and he's STILL taking care of me 24/7/365. Bless his 
heart ❤️ 

I went to college, traveled, was bad, was good

I don't know how much longer I can stand sitting. I just found out I have a 
stage 4 wound and I was only getting up every other day for 7-8 hours a day
And that's with Pete checking my skin EVERY day ... it just "cropped up" 

I hope you newbie's have a better Road then us old timers
Bobbie 

"Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi

Re: [QUAD-L] Ramp/Door Problems

[wheelchair]

IMS, was purchased by Braun in 2005.  After Ralph Braun passed, the company was 
purchased by a Foreign Company in Europe and was renamed Braun Ability.  There 
is no real reason from Braun to support old technology and the new owners agree.
 
I know you don't want to hear this but this is quite normal in business when 
one corporation buys out another company and then is sold.  I'm not sure if IMS 
made their own parts and components, or vendor them out as there are so many 
changes going on and will continue to change.
 
Have you tried,   www.blvd.com,  in California as a source for old parts and 
components and you can call Braun Ability, in Northern INdiana.
 
The last resort is proto-typing your own parts and components.  But that could 
be risky.  Good Luck and
 
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 3/24/2018 11:00:40 AM Central Standard Time, 
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
Wheelchair,
 
My conversion is about 16 years old and yes it is the parts apparently that 
aren’t available. I thought IMS no longer existed? Do you know how I would 
contact the Zone Manager or tech service? At this point I’m willing to do 
whatever Ica to get my independence back.
 
Thank you!
Nicki
 
From:wheelch...@aol.com [mailto:wheelch...@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 3:33 PM
To:zoocr...@windstream.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ramp/Door Problems
 
Not sure how old your IMS Conversion is but I'm guessing the parts necessary 
are becoming obsolete as new technology takes over and old technology is passe. 
 Have you considered contacting IMS directly for their Zone Manager or their 
tech service dept.  This is the best I can offer you now..
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 3/23/2018 3:25:58 PM Central Standard Time, 
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:
 
I have a 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan with IMS Conversion. I took my van to United 
Access OKC (hate it) and waited 2.5 hours to be told what I told them was wrong 
with it. My ramp isn’t extending out to ground level and it doesn’t pull 
completely in which sometime prevents the door from closing all the way. Ramp 
also wouldn’t pull back in unless the flap at the top of ramp is lifted.  My 
door also isn’t unlatching and someone has to pull the handle after I push the 
button to open it. They told me even if they could get parts it would be 
$10,000 to $15,000 and that would be a great down payment on a new van. They 
waived the diagnostic fee and gave me a card for their salesman. They didn’t 
even clean or service the ramp.
Purchasing a new van is not an option.
 
I took my van to a technology school and the kids there cleaned the components 
they could reach and eventually got the ramp to extend/retract like it should. 
The instructor couldn’t get the door latch figured out before he ran out of 
time. He fixed it before but we don’t remember exactly what he did to fix it. 
(He took the panel off the inside of the door and did something to the part 
that makes the latch unlatch. Is there an adjustment that can be made on that 
part?). The ramp pulls in very slow.
 
I am open to any suggestions as to what could be wrong/how to fix it.
 
Thanks
Nicki

Re: [QUAD-L] Ramp/Door Problems

[wheelchair]

Not sure how old your IMS Conversion is but I'm guessing the parts necessary 
are becoming obsolete as new technology takes over and old technology is passe. 
 Have you considered contacting IMS directly for their Zone Manager or their 
tech service dept.  This is the best I can offer you now..
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 3/23/2018 3:25:58 PM Central Standard Time, 
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
I have a 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan with IMS Conversion. I took my van to United 
Access OKC (hate it) and waited 2.5 hours to be told what I told them was wrong 
with it. My ramp isn’t extending out to ground level and it doesn’t pull 
completely in which sometime prevents the door from closing all the way. Ramp 
also wouldn’t pull back in unless the flap at the top of ramp is lifted.  My 
door also isn’t unlatching and someone has to pull the handle after I push the 
button to open it. They told me even if they could get parts it would be 
$10,000 to $15,000 and that would be a great down payment on a new van. They 
waived the diagnostic fee and gave me a card for their salesman. They didn’t 
even clean or service the ramp.
Purchasing a new van is not an option.
 
I took my van to a technology school and the kids there cleaned the components 
they could reach and eventually got the ramp to extend/retract like it should. 
The instructor couldn’t get the door latch figured out before he ran out of 
time. He fixed it before but we don’t remember exactly what he did to fix it. 
(He took the panel off the inside of the door and did something to the part 
that makes the latch unlatch. Is there an adjustment that can be made on that 
part?). The ramp pulls in very slow.
 
I am open to any suggestions as to what could be wrong/how to fix it.
 
Thanks
Nicki

Re: [QUAD-L] how do I pay for this Sesame phone application? And how much is it?

[wheelchair]

Check with your State's Technology Department, sponsored by the March of Dime.  
Let them know what you need.  If they have one in stock, you can try it out for 
30 days at no charge.
This may not be the final answer, but its a good start.
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 1/20/2018 9:10:40 AM Central Standard Time, 
n14...@hotmail.com writes:

 
 
 
Pray tell how do I pay for this Sesame phone application, and how much is it?  
Please look at the advertisement and see if you can glean the info from it 
please.
 
Finally a hands-free cell phone if I understand the advertisement correctly.  I 
desperately need one just as a safety issue.
 
I have an android cell phone right here waiting to go.  What I'm trying to 
figure out is where do I send my money and how much in order to get this app.
  Please advise if you can figure it out.
 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sesame.phone_nougat=en
 
Debra Scruggs-Scruggs phalanx-dragon slayers -PRISONER OF HOPE ZECH. 9
 Formerly: Homeschooling mom of 9 and pvt. pilot
 Currently: tetrapeligic due to advanced MS and living in a nursing home hell 
18 years
 Phone: 561-58 6-9399
 SC student 20yrs  … can not brag about my love for YHVH God because I fail Him 
daily, but I can brag about His love for me because He never fails me.
 ROMANS 8:28… Kindness is the language the deaf can hear and the blind can see 
– Mark TwainB.I.B.L.E.-BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[wheelchair]

Plan.A Head.
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 1/3/2018 9:36:03 AM Central Standard Time, g...@eskimo.com 
writes:

 
I got stuck in a new way yesterday. I often go out and do photography. A guy 
around the corner has lots of cactuses with birds living in them. He has a big 
gate in front. He lets me hang out and take photos. I was taking some photos 
and the gate started closing. I didn’t get out in time. I was locked in. I 
can’t get to their door. But was able to knock on the side of the house. Took 
about 15 minutes to get their attention. But I got a great photo of a Thrasher 
on a Cactus. Check in out.
https://www.facebook.com/greg.wickenburg
Greg

Re: RE: [QUAD-L] Merry Christmas, I voted for Trump and I'm a christian

[wheelchair]

Thank You For Your comments Glenn (who I always called Henry)
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 12/24/2017 2:06:45 PM Central Standard Time, 
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
Merry Christmas to you and yours!!
 
Nicki
 
From: Glenn A Henry [mailto:gah17...@aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:52 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Merry Christmas, I voted for Trump and I'm a christian
 
    Merry
Christmas
 
It is Christmas, well technically Christmas Eve, and if you are offended at 
what I say, perhaps you will read my whole post and know my story a little 
better.
 First, 
Merry Christmas, 
happy Hanukkah, 
happy Kwanzaa, 
happy happy happy.
Okay, I’m one of those that believe that Donald Trump is doing a fantastic job 
even 
though the fake news media is doing their best to discredit everything that the 
majority of this country was built upon and believes in. For those that say the 
quad site is not for religion, politics or a Merry Christmas, go pound sand, 
better yet stick your head under it and come out in eight years.
 Now, I’m going to say what I intend. I'm free, live in the United States of 
America, the greatest nation on earth and at the moment have free speech. I 
have been on the quad site most of 12 to 14 years, if not more and enjoyed the 
posts that came across, found many helpful and I was able to help other people 
that posted. I’m proud of who I am, what I’ve accomplished in my life and 
scared of the road that I need to travel. I have this road close to my house 
that I call my Prayer Road. When I have an issue I will travel this road to 
think and pray. I was traveling that road in 1996 praying for an answer to 
prayer because of a decision I needed to make. My mother was put on a 
ventilator and a decision needed to be made to continue. Being the only 
surviving child the weight fell on my shoulders and that was the issue I was 
praying about. I know the spot that an audible voice told me “don’t worry she 
is already with me.” That is something I will never forget.
 I still travel that road when I have an issue to think or pray about, but I 
look at the road a little different. About two thirds of the way on this road, 
I look back. What I see is a stone road that I traveled many times. This road 
is now paved, but in my mind I can still see a stone road and small concrete 
bridge. This road I traveled hundreds of times on the way to “the old swimming 
hole”. Oh yes, the old swimming hole, many of us have areas like this, many of 
the kids that swam there also tried their first cigarette or other first. Mine 
was a small corncob pipe, tobacco was cherry blend half-and-half. As I look 
back the road I treasure the memories of the swimming hole and probably the 
best hunting for small game in the area. I took many a rabbit and squirrel from 
that road. Gone is the stone road, much of the trees and brush, remaining sweet 
memories.
 Today on that same road after I have looked back, I look forward. The road 
goes up a small hill and bears to the left. If you are new to that road wonder, 
what is ahead, what will I need to go through.
 I know what I find for I elected to follow that road many years ago. However, 
the thought of what is ahead and how will I handle it is the million-dollar 
question.
 A few months ago someone made the comment about ending their life, but stated 
that they probably would not have the strength to go through that. It is not 
srength to end your life, I know that all too well. Yes, it is going to end 
your suffering and Lord knows I’ve suffered too. I’ve also gone through pain 
when a brother committed suicide and I know firsthand what it does to those 
around you. My nephew to this day has to be on medication for depression. If he 
does not take his medicine they may find him laying on the floor rolled up in a 
ball. My brother was a police officer, was on solo patrol and watched 
helplessly as his best friends father, a damn drunk, stepped out from the 
backside of a telephone pole into the path of a car, to commit suicide. My 
brother tried to get him out and resuscitate him, but no go. The year was 1975 
and thinking about actions like this were totally different. The police 
department gave a few counseling sessions, but basically told him not to think 
about it or talk about it and eventually it will go away. Well, just about a 
year later it went away and so does my brother. I am mad at the police 
department, or basically the people that were in charge of that time, but I met 
her at my brother. At my time of life I need someone that I can share with, and 
certain things cannot be shared and understood unless it is a sibling or very 
long-standing friend.
 My accident was 1966, so that makes me almost 52 years post SCI. In those 52 
years I started out with two small businesses, the first making Christmas 
decorations and the second selling hunting and fishing equipment. I always had 
a very strong urge to go into the electronics 

Re: [QUAD-L] Nursing homes 

[wheelchair]

I personally think you are doing right.
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 11/29/2017 9:07:48 PM Central Standard Time, 
bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com writes:

 
 I'm 62 and 44 years post C-5,6 living in New Jersey with my sweet Pete who's 
been taking care of me 24/7/365 for over 30 years.
We started talking about looking into a nursing home  for me in case something 
should happen to Pete.
I've been terrified for 44 years because of stories I've heard and me visiting 
other quad friends in nursing homes.
This year I've been making tough phone calls and visiting places so I will be 
informed and take away some fear.

My mom was just put into a nursing home  April 2017 45 minutes away. It is so 
very clean, the staff is kind, attentive and compassionate and run and owned by 
filipino people.
My insurance is Medicaid and that means there is a 2-3 year waiting list. So 
I'm going to fill one out. I can't believe I just typed that last sentence. 
Other places have no waiting list at all ... red flag ⛳️ to me.
This place, Merry Heart, has had quads before so I won't be the first.

Anybody have any advice for me?
Bobbie 

"Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi

Re: [QUAD-L] Trust to tell you

[wheelchair]

It is that time of the year we give thanks, for all and everything.  Its so 
right.
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 11/21/2017 6:47:31 AM Central Standard Time, 
ismaelcavaz...@gmail.com writes:

 
Hello my friends wishing you you and your family a happy Thanksgiving and a 
safe trip and God bless you every one of you

Re: [QUAD-L] Chair Rent

[wheelchair]

Renting a loaner, is not that easy for many tangible reasons.  Keep in  
mind that in most cases, your rehab chair was custom built for you.  In  many 
cases Quad are using CRT equipment and trying to use a regular mobility  
chair could injure one's body.  And then, who would be responsible?   IF you 
are 
using CRT equipment always keep your old chair as backup and charged  for 
that reason.
CMS, pays DME/Providers up to $55 per day for a rental chair.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 11/10/2017 6:33:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com writes:

My dealer stopped all together loaning out power chairs.
They said because to many people were abusing  them.
So if I'm in a bind, with my one and only chair, I  have to stay in bed. 
臘‍♀️
Bobbie 

"Be the change you want to see  in the world". Gandhi

On Nov 10, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Greg <g...@eskimo.com> wrote:




I can’t believe how uncaring some wheelchair dealers /  repair shops are. I’
ve been trying for a month to get a chair to rent while  waiting for a new 
chair. They finely got one, but the night before I was to  get it, a motor 
broke. A week later I asked them if that chair was fixed  yet… Their reply was
… No, they put broken chairs on the back burner and fix  when there is 
nothing else on the schedule. Now they know I’m stuck at home  in a chair that 
doesn’t work. I call every other day. That chair could have  been fixed and 
delivered by now. 
They finely call and got another chair in yesterday  (Thur). Knowing how 
bad I need it, they wait until Friday afternoon to give  it a once-over. They 
called, and it won’t be finished until next week. They  can’t find a back 
for it. 
Think ahead people. Act like you’re the customer. It was  how casual they 
seem to be. Maybe they need people in chairs doing  scheduling.Greg


=

Re: [QUAD-L] Chair Changing

[wheelchair]

Strange.  You spliced wires, in the field?  According to  Invacare, that is 
not allowed.  The cable must be replaced. Even field  techs are not allowed 
to do that.
Good Luck 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 9/6/2017 9:46:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

My current  chair has a gremlin. After charging full, it might last a block 
or a mile. The  meter goes from 1 bar to 5, to 2, 4, 1, 0, 3, etc. When I 
go up my ramp, hit a  bump, the chair stops and the joystick flashes “Recharge
”. Feels like the  brakes come on.
 
I changed  the batteries, charger, joystick. Still doing it. Then found a 
split in the  cable the joystick cable plugs into, that's hardwired. When 
moved, it sparked.  They cut the bad spot out and spliced it.
 
I thought  for sure it was the cut wire, because it acts like a loose wire. 
But after  they fixed it, its still doing it.
 
What else  could it be? I found a TDX5 Storm Computer Module on Ebay. Other 
than that,  what else can I look at? 
 
Thanks,  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Hello my friends I have a question

[wheelchair]

New and remarkable ear buds, and Smart Phone Apt, are better than hearing  
aids, for some.
 
Does your friend qualify?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 9/3/2017 11:34:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
ismaelcavaz...@gmail.com writes:

 
Hello guys I have a friend of my that he is a quadriplegic  he doesn't have 
any movement of his arms since he is accident happened is not  able to hear 
Barry well I am trying to help him not able to hear the  television barrel 
well I know they are special devices they put on their years  but he doesn't 
like to wear them when he is at home he have to put the  television buried 
out so he could hear it they were another idea I told him  about headphones 
but he doesn't feel comfortable with their on but when he is  in the 
hospital I don't know what you call that device but anyway he able to  hear the 
television very well bed side call light when they put it on his side  of his 
bed he's able to hear the television very well I ask different  questions to 
a different hospital quarried to them they told be that device  comes with 
the hospital bed where you could hear the television on the side of  the band 
I went to Google to look for it I was not successful any ideas will  be 
appreciated thank you and God bless you have a nice day 

Re: [QUAD-L] Door ?? openers

[wheelchair]

open sesame.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/25/2017 5:52:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com writes:

Does  anyone know of a link, or links, for automatic door  openers for 
outside  doors?
Bobbie 

"Be the change you want to see in the world".  Gandhi

Re: [QUAD-L] Itching scalp

[wheelchair]

Packard's Tar Soap, has been around since 1920's.  It comes in bar  form .  
Some don't like the smell of tar soaps, but it is a very clean  smell.  I 
used to pay 50 cents for a bar.  Today, it is more that $5  dollars, if you 
can find it on the internet.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/25/2017 4:19:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cboy...@swbell.net writes:

Hubby  and I use coal tar shampoo. I've got Sebhorreic Dermatitis (long 
predating  the spinal cord injury) and so does  he.

Carolyn

Re: [QUAD-L] Itchy Scalp

[wheelchair]

Packards Tar Soap.  Its also the main chemical  in T-Gel type shampoos.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/25/2017 8:01:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

I have had  such an itchy head, been driving me Crazy. I tried so many 
things. Some helped  a bit, but only short term. I even cut my hair supper 
short. I know its more  than 1 cause. The way I sleep seems to put a lot of 
pressure on my head and  when I move my head, it makes my hair bend backwards. 
I 
wake-up with “Hurt  Hair”. I also have a stupid cowlick in my hair, right 
in the back. An area  where the hair grows in a different direction. Cutting 
it helped. Then there  is just the itchy, flaking. Went to a 2nd 
Dermatologist and he said my flaking  was yeast. Dandruff has a few causes and 
on 
people that are not real mobile,  yeast can be one of them.
 
I'm trying  a new shampoo Rx only. Ketoconazole Shampoo 2%
 
I think its  really helping. I just hope it lasts.
 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[wheelchair]

I would consider contacting Medicare/Medicaid and tell them to stop making  
payments to your provider and then contact Invacare-Customer Care, with the 
 serial number of your chair.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/15/2017 8:21:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
lwillis82...@msn.com writes:

How about this. I got my new Invacare storm last November. About a month  
ago it started messing up. When you turn the power off it won't come back on. 
 You have to disconnect the batteries. I think I described this earlier. 
Well  the repair guy came by a couple of weeks ago and determined that the 
problem  was in the joystick/control. I called them yesterday and they said 
they will  not recognize the warranty because the unit had apparently been wet. 
This  thing has never felt even a sprinkle! I have a strong desire to 
strike  somebody with great force. What a bunch of crooks and liars! Any 
suggestions?  Invacare wants my insurance to pay for it. Well of course they 
do. 
Bunch of  greedy $);&:@! Any words of wisdom out there?

Sent from my  iPad

Begin forwarded message:



Resent-From: 
From:  greg 
Date: August  15, 2017 at 8:48:51 PM EDT
To: 
Subject:  [QUAD-L] New Chair




 
Been  trying 6 months to get a new chair. First few months was mis 
communication.  I was waiting for them to send me info, the rep thought he had 
and 
was  waiting for me. Then arguing over what type of chair they could order. 
Now I  get prescription to fix my old chair. They called and said they no 
longer  work with my insurance group. I asked about the new chair we were 
working  on. They said, Sorry, we didn't realize it was a different group name. 
So  its starting all over.
 
The name  of the chair place I get from my insurance.1 star rated, very bad 
BBB  rating, 4 brands of chairs I've never heard of. I'm appealing to see 
if I  can buy out of network. Can take another 15 days. What hassles. 
 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Battaries

[wheelchair]

Knowledge = Power !
 
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/9/2017 11:33:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
I  was told the same thing last fall. They received to fax from my dr that 
day  for new chair and were at my house to assess for repair and told me I 
had to  pay out of pocket for repairs. Since they had just received the 
script from my  dr I told them tear it up because I am not paying out of pocket 
for repairs I  had been asking them to do for months. They trashed the 
script, fixed my chair  and now we are in the process of getting a new chair. 
Good  luck 
Nicki 
 
From: Rose Chase  [mailto:cviewe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:16  PM
To: wheelch...@aol.com
Cc: greg;  quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Battaries
 
I went for an evaluation  yesterday to get a power  chair. Even though the 
Dr, wrote up all that.  I need she said she did  not think medicare would 
pay for an elevating seat and she was not sure about  the tilt and recline. 
She said it would take months to get  a review  through medicare.I asked if I 
could get some repairs done to my old chair but  was told NO not while I am 
waiting for a new chairmedicare would not pay  for repairs and then a 
new chair.
 
 
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:01 PM,   wrote: 
 
 
Who  told you that you could not get your chair repaired while you are 
going thru  the process of a new one?
 
Best  Wishes
 
 
 

 
 
In a  message dated 8/8/2017 10:39:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
g...@eskimo.com  writes:

 
My chair is so weird, I can  charge it all day and night, but it still say 
not charged. Or I can run it  almost dead, and it charge full just over 
night. I charged it all day, and  all night, went dead after 2 miles. A few 
days 
ago I went 6  miles.
 

 
It kind of feels like the  breaks come on while driving sometimes. Other 
times it feels like something  comes loose and my chair comes to a dead stop.
 

 
I can't do too much to it  because I'm trying to get a new chair.
 

 

 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Battaries

[wheelchair]

OK, if you wish.  I'm not here to change your mind or anyone  else's  
Pre-conceived Notions are impossible to dispel. Have you actually  talked with 
someone at Medicare/Medicaid.   Good Luck in your  journey.  I truly hope you 
win.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/8/2017 10:14:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

I was told Medicare will not cover seat  elevating or speed package.
They should cover tilt /  recline
Greg


> I went for an evaluation  yesterday to get a power chair. Even
> though the Dr, wrote up  all that.  I need she said she did not
> think medicare would pay  for an elevating seat and she was not sure
> about the tilt and  recline. She said it would take months to get  a
> review through medicare.I  asked if I could get some repairs done to
> my old chair but was told  NO not while I am waiting for a new
> chairmedicare would  not pay for repairs and then a new chair.
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at  2:01 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Who told you that  you could not get your chair repaired while you
>> are going thru the  process of a new one?
>>
> Best Wishes
>
>
>> In a message dated  8/8/2017 10:39:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> g...@eskimo.com  writes:
>>
>>> My chair  is
>>> so weird, I can  charge it all day and night, but it still say
>>> not charged. Or  I can run it almost dead, and it charge full
>>> just over  night. I charged it all day, and all night, went dead
>>> after 2 miles.  A few days ago I went 6 miles.
>>>
>
> It kind of
>>> feels like the  breaks come on while driving sometimes. Other
>>> times it feels  like something comes loose and my chair comes to
>>> a dead  stop.
>>>
>
> I can't do
>>> too much to it  because I'm trying to get a new chair.
>>>
>
>  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Battaries

[wheelchair]

Bet ya dollar to donuts Medicare/Medicaid will pay for the repairs to your  
chair, but not thru the provider who is trying to get a new chair.  Call  
Medicaid/Medicare and ask for yourself and a referral to a repair provider. 2 
 that I know of are Wheelchair & Scooter Repair-Solutions in Maryland  
888-584-3095 The other is X-Med in Texas.  These companies can only repair,  
and 
not sell them.
Hope it works for you as Knowledge is POWER.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/8/2017 8:16:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cviewe...@gmail.com writes:

I went for an evaluation  yesterday to get a power chair.  Even though the 
Dr, wrote up all that.  I need she said she did not think  medicare would 
pay for an elevating seat and she was not sure about the tilt  and recline. 
She said it would take months to get  a review through  medicare.I asked if I 
could get some repairs done to my old chair but was told  NO not while I am 
waiting for a new chairmedicare would not pay for  repairs and then a 
new chair.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:01 PM, <wheelch...@aol.com> wrote:


Who told you that you could not get your chair repaired while you are  
going thru the process of a new one?
Best Wishes
 
 

 
In a message dated 8/8/2017 10:39:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
g...@eskimo.com writes:

My  chair is so weird, I can charge it all day and night, but it still say 
not  charged. Or I can run it almost dead, and it charge full just over 
night.  I charged it all day, and all night, went dead after 2 miles. A few 
days 
 ago I went 6 miles.
 
It kind  of feels like the breaks come on while driving sometimes. Other 
times it  feels like something comes loose and my chair comes to a dead  stop.
 
I can't  do too much to it because I'm trying to get a new chair.
 
 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Battaries

[wheelchair]

Who told you that you could not get your chair repaired while you are going 
 thru the process of a new one?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/8/2017 10:39:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

My chair is  so weird, I can charge it all day and night, but it still say 
not charged. Or  I can run it almost dead, and it charge full just over 
night. I charged it all  day, and all night, went dead after 2 miles. A few 
days 
ago I went 6  miles.
 
It kind of  feels like the breaks come on while driving sometimes. Other 
times it feels  like something comes loose and my chair comes to a dead stop.
 
I can't do  too much to it because I'm trying to get a new chair.
 
 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] I have a question for you guys any ideas will be appreciate

[wheelchair]

Harbor Freight has driveway sensors that can easily be adapted for door  
application.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/3/2017 6:43:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
ismaelcavaz...@gmail.com writes:

Hello my friends I've been trying to look a tensor that you  can put in the 
top of the front door when people come to see comes out like  the way they 
used to have before and the stores they would say good morning or  whatever 
I don't know if they still make them any ideas I will appreciate it  where 
to call or to get one thank you God bless  you

Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

[wheelchair]

By your comments, I'm guessing that you have a complex rehab chair. To  
perform the necessary test to evaluate your chair's issues... you have to be  
removed and that in itself is time consuming and complex. Where do you sit n  
rest while your chair is being evaluated? Can you be without your chair for 
24  hours? Also reading what you posted, tells me that you let others talk 
you into  decisions you should be making towards YOUR future. For me being 
here and You  being there there is not much I can offer, except...
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 8:29:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jsga...@yahoo.com writes:

 
It's just very frustrating because I  mentioned while at a seating clinic a 
week ago that I needed my anti-tip bars  raised and a new gooseneck for my 
sip and puff chair. The anti-tip bars were  adjusted at the seating clinic. 
Without even making an appointment, someone  from my chair tech company 
showed up yesterday and, while telling me he had  the gooseneck listed on his 
paperwork to be ordered, he checked the date of  the batteries, which seemed 
to be working fine, but they know my insurance  will pay for new ones, 
checked my tires, which also seem fine, but they'll  probably order new ones 
because my insurance will pay, and I don't know what  else he did because I was 
taking a break from working just to deal with all  this stuff. 


I made the ultimate  decision, but I was steered away from purchasing my 
third Invacare chair in a  row. The chair they steered me towards? It turned 
out to have a major flaw  and, instead of replacing it, I told them I didn't 
want that brand. Again, I  let them steer me away from Invacare, and now I 
have a chair that's had its  share of issues, still does, doesn't go as far 
as it should on a full charge,  which I complained about early on, but they 
don't look at the things you are  mentioning, Wheelchair. Instead, it's 
replace batteries, try different  batteries if the replacements don't make a 
difference, and do everything – it  seems – but what it really takes to make it 
work properly. The biggest issue,  in my opinion, is they don't "live" in a 
wheelchair. I realize they have to  make money but this is just kind of 
messed up… Jeff 




 
 
  

 From: "wheelch...@aol.com"  <wheelch...@aol.com>
To: g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Wednesday, August 2,  2017 4:01 PM
Subject: Re:  [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery



 
Without a certified tech, your  chair is just a fancy, expensive, 
flashlight.  Does not sound like your  batteries are the issue, but rather are 
suffering the effects of a component  failure.  For example if the magnetic 
brakes 
have internal issues, each  manufacturer requires that the motor assembly, 
which includes the magnetic  brakes, motor and gearbox be replaced. Also 
when replacing a motor assembly,  both motors are replaced for even movement of 
the chair.  There is a lot  more to it and I hope you find a certified tech.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 11:06:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:
 
I'd like it too.
My chair often feels like the auto breaks  are on, or grabbing.
Fully charged, I'll be driving and the  chair stops dead, I jurk forward.
The joystick flashes Recharge Battaries.  No idea whats going on.
Greg


> Would anyone still have  that post regarding all the alternate
> causes why a wheelchair  battery gets drained, yet these issues
> aren't typically looked  at by wheelchair companies?
>
>
>  Jeff

Re: [QUAD-L] Invacare more stuff

[wheelchair]

Your wheelchair is still under factory warranty.  Please consider  calling 
them with the serial number of your chair. Once the issue is documented  any 
repairs will be covered after the warranty. Call Customer Care and be  
prepared to voice your issue and concerns.  Ask them if it is safe to use  your 
chair until its repaired or reprogrammed. Don't wait one minute, call them  
tomorrow.  Be nice and wait for them to reply. This could be an easy fix or  
complicated, requiring a certified field tech, maybe your provider.
Please let me know what happens.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 5:38:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
lwillis82...@msn.com writes:

Ok, here  is another quandary.i have an 8 month old invacare storm. WHen I 
turn it off  the screen says goodbye and nothing works. I have to break 
power to get it to  reset. If I am alone and accidentally hit the off button, I 
am screwed.  Strangely enough, my previous chair, a storm, did the very same 
thing. Never  did figure it out.Anyone else have this problem?

Let me clarify a bit.  When I hit the off button, the screen stays lit but 
says goodbye. I turn it  back on but the chair still won't do anything until 
I disconnect and reconnect  the batteries. The switch must be on when I 
plug it back in. Mucho  frustrating.

Sent from my  iPad

Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

[wheelchair]

Without a certified tech, your chair is just a fancy, expensive,  
flashlight.  Does not sound like your batteries are the issue, but rather  are 
suffering the effects of a component failure.  For example if the  magnetic 
brakes 
have internal issues, each manufacturer requires that the motor  assembly, 
which includes the magnetic brakes, motor and gearbox be replaced.  Also 
when replacing a motor assembly, both motors are replaced for even movement  of 
the chair.  There is a lot more to it and I hope you find a certified  tech.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 11:06:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

I'd like it too.
My chair often feels like the auto breaks  are on, or grabbing.
Fully charged, I'll be driving and the  chair stops dead, I jurk forward.
The joystick flashes Recharge Battaries. No  idea whats going on.
Greg


> Would anyone still have  that post regarding all the alternate
> causes why a wheelchair  battery gets drained, yet these issues
> aren't typically looked  at by wheelchair companies?
>
>
>  Jeff

Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

[wheelchair]

Each manufacturer makes the necessary testing equipment for Tech Providers  
to test the integrity of each component on an electric wheelchair or  
scooter.  Dealer programmers are also available to trained Techs. For end  
users, 
a multi voltage meter and amperage draw meter is a good start.  Keep  in 
mind that attaching the equipment to the wrong terminals could cause more  
expensive damage, plus repair time delay.
I hope this helps, a lil.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 11:13:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jsga...@yahoo.com writes:

 
Thanks, Greg.  I was looking more for the post where  someone provided 
possible reasons, other than the obvious, for why a chair  isn't getting the 
mileage it should.  The post contained other areas of a  chair that could be 
drawing charge from the battery, rather than normal,  expected use.




 
 
  

 From: greg  <g...@eskimo.com>
To:  quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent:  Wednesday, August 2, 2017 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining  Battery


  
 
I'd like it too.
My chair often feels like the auto breaks  are on, or grabbing.
Fully charged, I'll be driving and the  chair stops dead, I jurk forward.
The joystick flashes Recharge Battaries. No  idea whats going on.
Greg  





> Would anyone still have  that post regarding all the alternate
> causes why a wheelchair  battery gets drained, yet these issues
> aren't typically looked  at by wheelchair companies?
>
>
>  Jeff

Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

[wheelchair]

Consider, you medical mobility electric chair, a very high liability item.  
For that reason Pride Suggested that you return to the medical provider and 
have  them call Pride or Quantum Tech Service.  Yes, I know its 
frustrating.  or you can email msm...@pridemobility.com   with the  
serial 
number and your provider and advise him of your issues and what you think  
could/might be wrong.  A dealer programmer can verify your theories. Mark,  is 
a 
Manager in the Quantum Div  of Pride.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 5:34:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jsga...@yahoo.com writes:

 
I won't call these companies the names I would like to call these  
companies. That's why I was looking for that paragraph describing other issues  
that 
can drain batteries outside of what you'd normally expect. I wrote the  
Pride Corporation – maker of my chair – and was going to ask them about these  
other issues. Their response, without asking me anything, was that I needed 
to  speak with the company that works on my chair…
Jeff



 
 
  

 From: Nichole Rohling  <zoocr...@windstream.net>
To: 'greg' <g...@eskimo.com>;  'Jeffrey Gaede' <jsga...@yahoo.com>; 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 2:24  PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]  Wheelchair Draining Battery


  
 
 
Found two  posts I made regarding batteries showing full but couldn’t 
hardly go out of my  house…….would say charge batteries when going over a 
threshold or  incline
 
I had the same  problem last year beginning in March. The batteries were 
replaced 4 times.  After asking in May to replace anything relating to 
charging the batteries the  company finally replaced the charger (in October, 
didn’
t fix it) then battery  boxes, the joystick and the 2-prong thing that the 
battery box slides into on  the chair in December. Haven’t had a problem 
since (knock on  wood).
 
Best of luck,  it is so dang frustrating
 
Nicki
 
 
Greg,
I think we are in the same boat! I just had my  4th set of batteries put in 
Monday since March. All of a sudden my  chair was stopping saying “low 
battery”. I would turn it off then on and go a  few feet and repeat. Joystick 
shows full battery charge. Woke up in March and  my house smelled like rotten 
eggs. I paid out of pocket for what they said  were gel batteries from a 
battery supplier because I had to have them that  day. $352 worth. In June, 
same thing with my chair stopping saying low battery  but joystick shows full 
charge (I use my chair very little). They swapped out  batteries at no charge 
but said it had to be my chair. DME company came out  right after 4th of 
July and ordered new batteries and new charger.  Got them Sept 9, they said 
what I had was not true gel cell . Last  week, same thing, low battery and 
chair stopping even though joystick shows  full charge. We ordered new battery 
boxes, receptacles, joystick and they  warrantied my batteries but by the 
time parts get here these batteries will be  shot and I’ll have to pay out of 
pocket again. My chair is 8 yrs old and new  chair process is on hold until 
medicare covers parts. Soo frustrated  the DME company drug their 
feet on parts and really trying to troubleshoot the  problem. I asked in July 
to order anything it could possibly be. I did call  Invacare and they said 
DME company should have brought programmer to see fault  codes so I called 
them and asked that he please bring it. Really didn’t tell  much other than I’
m having low batteries.
 
I feel your pain and good luck!
 
Nicki
 
 
 
 
 
From: greg  [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017  11:06 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining  Battery


 
 
I'd like it  too.

 
My chair often  feels like the auto breaks are on, or grabbing.

 
Fully charged,  I'll be driving and the chair stops dead, I jurk forward.

 
The joystick  flashes Recharge Battaries. No idea whats going on.

 
Greg

 
> Would  anyone still have that post regarding all the alternate

 
> causes  why a wheelchair battery gets drained, yet these issues

 
> aren't  typically looked at by wheelchair companies?

 
>  

 
>  

 
>  Jeff

Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

[wheelchair]

Changing out parts without determining the cause is foolish and time  
consuming.  I also realize that the process is much easier just to swap out  
parts and components. Manufacturers require a test on each component and the 
use 
 of a programmer to determine a part or component failures.
Certified Techs, know exactly what is necessary to perform. Shady tree  
mechanical just swap out parts and components.  Remember each motor has 3  
components, magnetic brake, 24 volt motor and gearbox.  Please keep that in  
mind.  It may not be the batteries, but rather a failed component that is  
allowing the batteries to drain.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 4:24:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
Found  two posts I made regarding batteries showing full but couldn’t 
hardly go out  of my house…….would say charge batteries when going over a 
threshold or  incline 
I  had the same problem last year beginning in March. The batteries were 
replaced  4 times. After asking in May to replace anything relating to 
charging the  batteries the company finally replaced the charger (in October, 
didn’
t fix it)  then battery boxes, the joystick and the 2-prong thing that the 
battery box  slides into on the chair in December. Haven’t had a problem 
since (knock on  wood). 
Best  of luck, it is so dang frustrating 
Nicki 
Greg, 
I  think we are in the same boat! I just had my 4th set of batteries  put 
in Monday since March. All of a sudden my chair was stopping saying “low  
battery”. I would turn it off then on and go a few feet and repeat. Joystick  
shows full battery charge. Woke up in March and my house smelled like rotten  
eggs. I paid out of pocket for what they said were gel batteries from a  
battery supplier because I had to have them that day. $352 worth. In June,  
same thing with my chair stopping saying low battery but joystick shows full  
charge (I use my chair very little). They swapped out batteries at no charge 
 but said it had to be my chair. DME company came out right after  4th of 
July and ordered new batteries and new charger. Got them  Sept 9, they said 
what I had was not true gel cell . Last week,  same thing, low battery and 
chair stopping even though joystick shows full  charge. We ordered new battery 
boxes, receptacles, joystick and they  warrantied my batteries but by the 
time parts get here these batteries will be  shot and I’ll have to pay out of 
pocket again. My chair is 8 yrs old and new  chair process is on hold until 
medicare covers parts. Soo frustrated  the DME company drug their 
feet on parts and really trying to troubleshoot the  problem. I asked in July 
to order anything it could possibly be. I did call  Invacare and they said 
DME company should have brought programmer to see fault  codes so I called 
them and asked that he please bring it. Really didn’t tell  much other than I’
m having low batteries. 
I  feel your pain and good luck! 
Nicki 
 
 
From: greg  [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 11:06  AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Wheelchair Draining Battery

 
I'd like it  too.
 
My chair often  feels like the auto breaks are on, or grabbing.
 
Fully charged, I'll  be driving and the chair stops dead, I jurk  forward.
 
The joystick  flashes Recharge Battaries. No idea whats going  on.
 
Greg
 
>  Would anyone still have that post regarding all the alternate
 
>  causes why a wheelchair battery gets drained, yet these issues
 
>  aren't typically looked at by wheelchair companies?
 
> 
 
> 
 
>  Jeff

Re: [QUAD-L] Battery

[wheelchair]

Call Invacare Customer Care and ask if there is a recall on this  issue.  
If not, they should be able to determine if this is a software  issue and 
requires reprogramming.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/31/2017 8:04:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
lwillis82...@msn.com writes:

Ok, here is another quandary.i have an 8 month old invacare storm. WHen I  
turn it off the screen says goodbye and nothing works. I have to break power 
 to get it to reset. If I am alone and accidentally hit the off button, I 
am  screwed. Strangely enough, my previous chair, a storm, did the very same  
thing. Never did figure it out.Anyone else have this problem?

Sent from  my iPad

Begin forwarded message:



Resent-From: <quad-list@eskimo.com>
From:  glenn henry <gah17...@gmail.com>
Date:  July 30, 2017 at 1:34:36 PM EDT
To: wheelch...@aol.com
Cc: greg  <g...@eskimo.com>, quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] Battery





 
If it wasn't for only having one bar, I would suggest checking the  
brushes. It sounds like
one may be burnt through.  If you need more info send email to 
ghen...@aol.com.


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 6:48 AM, <wheelch...@aol.com> wrote:


If I may.  If this issue was an automobile, a dealer would hook  up the 
auto to a computer to analyze the issue.  Electric wheelchairs  users and 
dealers don't have that issue. But each chair has a control  module that 
directs 
energy to each motor, from the energy of the combined  batteries, using the 
joystick as the guide.  Motors, and Magnets  Brakes, are the biggest users 
of energy on a wheelchair, so each motor and  magnetic brake assembly must be 
tested before and during the operation of  the chair to determine the high 
energy draw, rather than just replacing  the batteries and joystick.
 
I hope this helps.
Best Wishes
 
 

 
In a message dated 7/18/2017 10:16:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
g...@eskimo.com  writes:

My  chair is possessed. I had battery issues, so changed, twice. Still was  
getting about   5 blocks a charge. They tried getting a new  joystick, but 
couldn't, to old. They were going to replace entire  electronics, but then I 
would not be eligible for a new  chair.
 
I  found a joystick on Ebay. It seemed to fix it. But after a few weeks,  
its weird again. My charger works, tried 2 to be sure. But some days it  
charges full, some days none. Charged 2 nights not going anywhere, still  only 
shows 1 bar. Now when I drive, it will just jerk, stop cold,  joystick flash “
Recharge”. I drive a bit more, same thing. Does it when  it says full or 
empty.
 
Its  like a loose wire, but if loose, it would die, go black. Sometimes it  
feels like the electric breaks are one while driving. I put in mode 2,  
slow speed and it didn't seem to jerk stop as much.
 
Any  ideas?
Hoping to gwt  new chair soon,  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Old worn out Electric Wheelchair disposal help

[wheelchair]

Old wheelchair bases, make for great battle bot frames.  Check with a  
local/university and see if they have a robotics program.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/30/2017 8:27:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

I'm  surprised how hard it was to get rid of my old chair. Especially if 
you want a  tax deduction slip. I would have love one as a kid just to play 
with the  parts. GoCart
Greg


> I have 2 Old Electric  Wheelchairs  They both work but are worn out
> with age.  I have  to get them  out of my garage.
> How do i go about it  guys?   Im a  Quad.

Re: [QUAD-L] Old worn out Electric Wheelchair disposal help

[wheelchair]

Check with an Independent Living Center in your area and see if they can  
remove them.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/30/2017 1:19:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
curlyle...@verizon.net writes:

 
I have 2 Old Electric  Wheelchairs  They both work but are worn out with 
age.  I have  to get them  out of my garage.
How do i go about it guys?Im a Quad.

Re: [QUAD-L] Fell Forward, bad time

[wheelchair]

Glad to read that you survived the ordeal.  Some tangible lessons are  hard 
to teach, unless you experience them.  Thanks for the lesson
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/20/2017 8:55:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

I was going  out the back door and fell forward. Into my lap. Joystick 
jammed my shoulder,  but kept me from going further forward. Outside, 100 
degrees, record humidity.  Hard to breath, overheated, etc. Pouring sweat from 
A.D. It was bad. I thought  it was hours, but it was just over 1 hour. I had to 
dump cold water on my  head, put ice packs on. No one could hear me. It was 
no fun. The thoughts that  go though your head. Between the pain, 
overheating, breathing, etc. No more  going without chest strap. Greg
 

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair ?

[wheelchair]

Why not call Invacare directly and get the story from them.  Tell them  
what you want and why you want to. Let them pull while you are  pushing.   BTW, 
who's the customer anyway?  Customer, is always  right.  Call 
Medicare/Medicaid in your state and let them know what the  provider is doing 
to you.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/19/2017 1:58:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
Below is a previous message I sent the quadlist. I decided  this morning I 
don’t even want to demo any chairs. The DME vendor is having  problem 
getting two footrests instead of the platform plate for all 3  chairs. I’ve 
been 
in an Invacare Action Arrow Storm for 19 years. They no  longer make this 
chair but the Torque 3 is the same chair, different motor.   
I called vendor to tell them to order the Invacare but they  told me we 
have to provide reasons why the other chairs won’t work before the  FDA will 
sign off on it (since Invacare is currently under Consent Decree with  FDA). 
So they still want me to demo chairs and come up with reasons they won’t  
work. 
I am so frustrated. I know one deal breaker is the armrests  because I have 
a bag that we attach to a particular spot on my armrest and I  put my leg 
bag in it so it is hidden. Their suggestion is to put in on front  of seat 
pan. That won’t work, not even gonna try it, what’s not broke doesn’t  need 
fixed. 
Also, I believe by having the same base I won’t have to  move e-z locks in 
the floor of my van where as if the other bases are  different not only will 
I have to pay to have bolt added to chair but the  expense of moving the 
bases. 
Anyone else want to help me come up with reasons why other  chairs won’t 
work? 
My rear is the one that sits in it so why can’t I just pick  what I 
freaking want? 
Nicki
I’m getting my 3rd chair in 19 years. I have had  the Invacare Action Arrow 
Storm for all 19 years. Invacare got in trouble with  the FDA and are under 
a consent decree with them. My DME is really trying to  steer me away from 
getting an Invacare chair. It would be a Torque 3. I am  suppose to be 
testing it as well as a Permobil C350 and a Quantum Rival. The  provider 
brought 
out the Quantum on Friday and it has a plate footrest (I have  always had 2 
footrest which allows me to straddle table posts at restaurants)  I don’t 
even think my feet would stay on a center mounted foot plate. They  were 
suppose to bring the Invacare first and the employee agreed he didn’t  think my 
feet would stay on the plate. He even told me that the motors in the  Rival 
go out but I didn’t hear that from him. The DME supplier is trying to  get 
footrests for the demo chairs but said they can only get 1 side for the  
Invacare. 
Would love input on any of these chairs. 

Re: [QUAD-L] Battery

[wheelchair]

If I may.  If this issue was an automobile, a dealer would hook up the  
auto to a computer to analyze the issue.  Electric wheelchairs users and  
dealers don't have that issue. But each chair has a control module that directs 
 
energy to each motor, from the energy of the combined batteries, using the  
joystick as the guide.  Motors, and Magnets Brakes, are the biggest users  
of energy on a wheelchair, so each motor and magnetic brake assembly must be  
tested before and during the operation of the chair to determine the high 
energy  draw, rather than just replacing the batteries and joystick.
 
I hope this helps.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/18/2017 10:16:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

My chair is  possessed. I had battery issues, so changed, twice. Still was 
getting about  5 blocks a charge. They tried getting a new joystick, but 
couldn't, to  old. They were going to replace entire electronics, but then I 
would not be  eligible for a new chair.
 
I found a  joystick on Ebay. It seemed to fix it. But after a few weeks, 
its weird again.  My charger works, tried 2 to be sure. But some days it 
charges full, some days  none. Charged 2 nights not going anywhere, still only 
shows 1 bar. Now when I  drive, it will just jerk, stop cold, joystick flash “
Recharge”. I drive a bit  more, same thing. Does it when it says full or 
empty.
 
Its like a  loose wire, but if loose, it would die, go black. Sometimes it 
feels like the  electric breaks are one while driving. I put in mode 2, slow 
speed and it  didn't seem to jerk stop as much.
 
Any  ideas?
Hoping to  gwt new chair soon,  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Molded backs

[wheelchair]

Seating Specialist, usually get a doctor's order, before they can evaluate  
you, or anyone else.  Never accept anyone less.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/8/2017 3:16:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com writes:

Has  anybody ever gotten a molded back on their chair? Did it help you?
I have  an appointment to get one August 23rd because of my scoliosis.
Bobbie  

"Be the change you want to see in the world".  Gandhi

Re: [QUAD-L] funding for a power chair and question about vocational rehab

[wheelchair]

Lets begin with Combine Medical Services.  With an order from a  medical 
doctor that specializes in Rehab Medicine and order for evaluation, by  an 
Occupational Therapist.  States may vary so contact Medicare/Medicaid in  your 
region for the best answer.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 6/19/2017 9:06:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
n14...@hotmail.com writes:

 
is there any alternatives to funding for a power chair aside from  
vocational rehab? What about Medicaid? 

Folk rehab bought me my 1st 


Debra Scruggs-Scruggs phalanx-dragon slayers -PRISONER  OF HOPE ZECH. 9
Formerly: Homeschooling mom of 9 and  pvt. pilot
Currently: Quadrapeligic due to advanced MS and living in a  nursing home
Phone: 561-588-4333
SC student 20yrs  
ROMANS  8:28  
B.I.B.L.E.-BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING  EARTH 

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[wheelchair]

Commission people could/would say something like this.  Remember who  they 
work for
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 6/19/2017 4:15:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
Yes,  and they said it would take longer to get the chair. 
Nicki 
 
 
From: Jeffrey Gaede  [mailto:jsga...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:57  PM
To: Nichole Rohling; 'Julie';  quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New  Chair

 
 
Someone is telling  you that you have to prove that no other chair would 
work?  I would want  to see that in writing.
 

 
 
 
 
  

 
From:  Nichole Rohling 
To:  'Julie' ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent:  Monday, June 19, 2017 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New  Chair
 
 
 
 
 
They told me we  would have to prove that no other chair would work for me? 
Did you have this  same experience?
 

 
Nicki
 

 
 
 
From:  Julie [mailto:ju...@jlar.org]  
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:03 PM
To: 'Nichole  Rohling'
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair


 

 
Hi,
 
I am getting a new  Invacare Torque 3 Wednesday.  They were halted for a 
couple years, so I  waited but they are at least in operation now.
 
Julie
 
 
 
From: Nichole Rohling  [mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net] 
Sent: Monday,  June 19, 2017 12:40 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] New  Chair


 

 
Need your opinions  and input please
 

 
I have been  injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but I was wrong) 
and I am getting  ready to get a new chair.
 
This will be my  3rd chair and and my 1st two were Invacare Action Arrow  
Storms. They are no longer making this chair L
 
I hate change! I  went to an evaluation appointment and was told the chair 
I want (Invacare  Torque 3) is considered a Group 4 chair
 
And it would be  difficult to get. They recommended a Permobil C350 or 
Quantum  Rival.
 

 
They told me that  an Invacare plant had been shut down by the FDA ( I 
think that’s right) and  their concern is if I got the
 
Invacare they  might quit making parts for it. 
 

 
I feel they  probably make more $$ off the other two chairs (I just really 
have trust  issues with them) 
 
. I have had  incredible luck with my Invacare chairs, obviously since 2 
have lasted 19  years. 
 

 
What would you  recommend?
 

 
Nicki

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[wheelchair]

I found this most interesting.  So I called Invacare and read back to  them 
what you wrote.  I was assure that they were still in business and new  
plants continue to open.
 
Have you considered calling your local CMS Office and asking for a written  
copy of the procedure/guideline for someone in need of an electric 
wheelchair,  with a doctor's order.
 
Your salesperson is trying to guide you to a product they stock, for their  
benefit, not yours.  Call Invacare Customer Service and hear from the  
Horse's Mouth... rather than from the Horse's Ass.  (smiling)
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 6/19/2017 11:48:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
Need your opinions and input please 
I have been injured almost 19 years (Thought it was 20 but  I was wrong) 
and I am getting ready to get a new chair. 
This will be my 3rd chair and and my  1st two were Invacare Action Arrow 
Storms. They are no longer  making this chair L 
I hate change! I went to an evaluation appointment and was  told the chair 
I want (Invacare Torque 3) is considered a Group 4  chair 
And it would be difficult to get. They recommended a  Permobil C350 or 
Quantum Rival. 
They told me that an Invacare plant had been shut down by  the FDA ( I 
think that’s right) and their concern is if I got  the 
Invacare they might quit making parts for it.   
I feel they probably make more $$ off the other two chairs  (I just really 
have trust issues with them)  
. I have had incredible luck with my Invacare chairs,  obviously since 2 
have lasted 19 years.  
What would you recommend? 
Nicki

Re: [QUAD-L] why is it so difficult to find a mouthstick??? This is driving m...

[wheelchair]

Some years ago, while attending the MedTrade Show in Atlanta, GA.  I  came 
upon a very small company on the East Coast that imported bamboo sticks  
from Japan  They used unique mouth grips and pointers. Their two major  
retailers were Sammons and a company called Northwest Medical.  Crazy Thing  is 
this happened more than 10 years ago and companies went out of business and  
uses of this bamboo mouth stick were out of luck
I wish I had better info.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 6/18/2017 6:50:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
n14...@hotmail.com writes:

 
I just went to this website  
Ifaraday.com  and I still can't even figure out how to order their product. 
Everything I try  to purchase, somehow they are discontinued or I cannot 
find out how to order  it. I really need a mouse stick very badly and I'm 
hoping someone here can  please direct me to a place I can purchase one that is 
still in business and  is not a discontinued product. Thank you


Debra Scruggs-Scruggs phalanx-dragon slayers -PRISONER  OF HOPE ZECH. 9
Formerly: Homeschooling mom of 9 and  pvt. pilot
Currently: Quadrapeligic due to advanced MS and living in a  nursing home
Phone: 561-588-4333
SC student 20yrs  
ROMANS  8:28  
B.I.B.L.E.-BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING  EARTH 

Re: [QUAD-L] Pressure sore

[wheelchair]

Flap procedure is usually done only after the open wound has healed to 90  
percent, and not before.  After the procedure, the body must be not be  
moved for a long period of time.  Are you a candidate for a wound vac,  first?
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 6/15/2017 8:11:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
y4ranch...@gmail.com writes:

Hi everryone, used to be part of the group I am back with a  question. I 
have a bad pressure sore between my leg and my bum. I have been  going to a 
wound care center for a month and a half. Doctor said it looks like  it may be 
down to the bone and is sending me to see a surgeon about a muscle  flap. 
Reading about them scares me any  thoughts?

Re: [QUAD-L] Shingles Shot ?

[wheelchair]

As you know, shingles is a neuro condition affecting the nerves. If one's  
has not feeling below the point where the shingles develops, it may not be a 
 major issue.  However, if you develop shingles in an area where you have  
feeling and sensations, you WILL have issues for a period of a month.  That  
is 24/7 for about a month.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 6/13/2017 12:05:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
randyanderson...@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
Hello,
I'm a 61-year-old male  19 years with a SCI.  Have  never had a single 
shot,, but it's probably time.


Has anyone  with  a SCI had one and did you have any bad effects from it? 
Probably a  question for my doctor,  but just wondering..

Thanks,  Randy

Re: [QUAD-L] question about contracting muscles atrophying, etc.

[wheelchair]

Were they called or referred to as BFOs?
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 6/11/2017 5:05:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
davekrehb...@earthlink.net writes:

 
Regarding  contraction, while in a nursing home, I had a similar problem to 
a lesser  extent. In order to straighten my arms, they attached some sort 
of a pillow or  a brace to each arm to try to straighten each arm and to help 
hold it  straight. This sounds to me like a job for a physical therapist or 
 occupational therapist. It helped me. After using the device, I have 
become a  better extending and straightening my arms while in bed. 
In  the long-term, you might consider e-stim. If your biceps are 
contracted, that  means that your triceps are extending and lengthening. You 
can 
electrically  stimulate your triceps, and other muscles, to help them contract 
and  strengthen. If you have partial control over your triceps, this can help 
you  increase that control. 
If  you Google estim, unfortunately, you will find a number of sexually 
related  devices. 
But  here is a place you can start: 
http://www.lgmedsupply.com/tensproducts.html 
after  the system has been selected and configured and placed on the 
appropriate  muscles, is relatively easy for people who are not physical 
therapists to  attach the pads and device. 
Has  anyone else tried this? How did this work for you? 
Take  care, 
Dave  Krehbiel 
Olney,  MD 
 
 
From: DEBRA DEW  [mailto:n14...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:01  AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] question  about contracting muscles atrophying, etc.

 
my arms and  legs are contracted at about a   45° angle,, which makes 
sitting in a  wheelchair rather awkward with my legs.. 
I've seen  pictures of long-term paralysis patients, aand  eventually their 
knees are touching their bottom and there hands are  touching their chin. 
Looks very uncomfortable and like a pretzel. Years ago I  inquired about what 
could be done  to stop the progression, and I was  told they would have to 
put braces on me that are very bulky and  uncomfortable, so I  decided not 
to do that. It's hard enough to maintain  comfort now without that, on top of 
it. 
My life  expectancy is about another 20 years, and I really do wonder 
what's going to  happen to my body with these contractions  of my muscles. 
Please 
share  whatever knowledge you possess about this.  And I wonder if I had  
physical therapy, If it would have done anything  to make me  more 
comfortable.  I have one CNA that moves my arms  ggently  to open them  and it 
does 
feel good while she is doing it.  I had  physical therapy for a few months, 
that my insurance stopped paying for it  quite quickly  (Medicaid).. Is there 
any way to force Medicaid to provide  for physical therapy? 
I found  this in an encyclopedia:Even  with "complete" injuries, in some 
rare cases, through intensive  rehabilitation, slight movement can be regained 
through _"rewiring" neural connections_ 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaptic_plasticity) ,  as in the case of the 
late actor _Christopher Reeve_ 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Reeve) ._[9]_ 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraplegia#cite_note-9)  
Debra Scruggs-Scruggs  phalanx-dragon slayers -PRISONER OF HOPE ZECH. 9 
 
 
Formerly: Homeschooling  mom of 9 and pvt. pilot
Currently: Quadrapeligic due to  advanced MS and living in a nursing home
Phone:  561-588-4333
SC student 20yrs   
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Re: [QUAD-L] TDX5 Joystick?

[wheelchair]

I sincerely hope that you are working with a certified Occupational  
Therapist to evaluate and determine the best chair for YOU.  Suggestions  are 
ok, 
but don't let anyone sell you something they want for you.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/26/2017 8:31:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cviewe...@gmail.com writes:

I am thinking of getting a new power chair. I like the mid-wheel  Permobil. 
Have any tried a  rear wheel drive or front wheel drive?   I live in a 
small house so do not have a lot of room to turn etc. What is the  better chair 
for a small area? Thanks for any help.  Rose

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:09 PM, greg  wrote:


I found one looks exactly the same, but  minehas 2 plugs in back, it has 1.
But both 15 pin, 3 pin  charger
I'll call Invacare tomorrow and see if it  might work.
Thx



 
> All parts, must be  ordered off the serial number of your chair.  No
> exceptions.  The  reason why is what you just witnessed.  Demand
> that they do it right.  Best Wishes  
>
> In a message dated  5/25/2017 8:38:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> g...@eskimo.com  writes:
>
>>
>> By chance does  anyone
>> have an old  Invacare TDX5 joystick control?
> After 3 months  of
>> waiting my  worhless chair repair shop finely got one, doesn't
>> fit. Mines to  old. they need to change the whole computer system.
>> But Im current;y  ordering a new chair, so not sure my insurenc
>> will cover  both.
>>
> Thying to find a  used
>> one.
>>
> Thx,
>>  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] TDX5 Joystick?

[wheelchair]

All parts, must be ordered off the serial number of your chair.  No  
exceptions.  The reason why is what you just witnessed.  Demand that  they do 
it 
right.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/25/2017 8:38:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

By chance does anyone  have an old Invacare TDX5 joystick control?
After 3 months of  waiting my worhless chair repair shop finely got one, 
doesn't fit. Mines to  old. they need to change the whole computer system. But 
Im current;y ordering  a new chair, so not sure my insurenc will cover both.
Thying to find a used  one.
 
Thx,  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] bladder spasms

[wheelchair]

Size Matters.  Much depends on the size of your bladder.   Bladders then to 
shrink with age and using a indwelling cath system. The size of  the cath 
balloon and how it sits/rest in your bladder. Material of the cath may  also 
affect spasms.  Complicated, eh?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/20/2017 2:34:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sbell...@cox.net writes:

Hi all, I have an indwelling catheter 38 years now, and am having fits of  
bladder spasms on and off after a change of catheter. Sometimes no problems. 
 Probably 7 out of 8 changes go south. I changed this twice and  I am  
still wetting with spasms? Do you have the same problems with super pubic? I  
just started cipro, had some still good. It’s the weekend and need to wait  
till Monday to call my Dr. unless it gets really bad. any thoughts?  thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Who cares for the family caregivers?

[wheelchair]

Some just might be surprised to know of family members that have gone onto  
medical training to become nurses, doctor's, OT's and PTs after living and  
carrying for members of their families.  And that is good too.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2017 10:35:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
k...@amplifiedagility.com writes:

 
Great  question and idea you have Dave.   
You  might get ideas by look at the San Diego Caregiver’s  Coalition. 
_www.caregivercoalitionsd.org_ (http://www.caregivercoalitionsd.org/)  
Warmly, 
Kay 
 
   
Kay  Lathrop
Program  Director, Amplified Agility, LLC
_1-619-501-3752_ (tel:1-619-501-3752)  |  _www.amplifiedagility.com_ 
(http://www.amplifiedagility.com/)   |
4275  Executive Square, Suite 200 La Jolla, CA 92037 
 (http://www.facebook.com/kay.lathrop.14)  
(http://www.linkedin.com/in/kaylathrop/)  (http://twitter.com/AmpAgility)  

 
 
From: Dave Krehbiel  [mailto:davekrehb...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:51  AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Who cares  for the family caregivers?

I have been a quadriplegic for nearly 10 years now, and as  a consequence, 
my wife has taken on the role of being a family caregiver for  almost 10 
years. 
She needs help. I have some ideas about setting up an  organization to help 
support family caregivers, and right now I am doing some  research. 
Are you aware of any helpful programs or resources or  information or 
organization supporting family caregivers? 
Thanks so much, and take care, 
Dave Krehbiel 
Olney, MD 
 
 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Who cares for the family caregivers?

[wheelchair]

Dave, your wife is an angel. Have you checked out your local Independent  
Living Center (ILC) Do you qualify for home health or maid service in your  
area?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2017 7:51:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
davekrehb...@earthlink.net writes:

 
I have been a quadriplegic for nearly 10 years now, and as  a consequence, 
my wife has taken on the role of being a family caregiver for  almost 10 
years. 
She needs help. I have some ideas about setting up an  organization to help 
support family caregivers, and right now I am doing some  research. 
Are you aware of any helpful programs or resources or  information or 
organization supporting family caregivers? 
Thanks so much, and take care, 
Dave Krehbiel 
Olney, MD

 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Pressure wound advice

[wheelchair]

Are you a candidate for having your butt, pressure mapped, just to be sure  
its not your chair or the cushion.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/18/2017 6:03:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bmatt...@earthlink.net writes:

Thanks, everyone, for your comments and  feedback.  It's interesting how 
different people have very different  experiences.  I don't yet have the Wound 
VAC but should have it soon.  Oddly, sitting in my chair does not seem to 
be the cause of the pressure  wound.  So maybe it's my bed.  I find it hard 
to breathe when I lie  on my side very long, hope a different mattress will 
help.  Frustrating,  not knowing the cause or the best solution.  But you all 
give me hope  that there WILL BE a solution, eventually.  Peace!

Re: [QUAD-L] Pressure wound advice

[wheelchair]

Hiya Ben! An open wound should be treated with the utmost respect, and  
never... ever be taken lightly. I hope you are being service by a certified  
Wound Care Clinic/Specialist. Make sure your Nurse is a Certified Wound Nurse  
and knows how to use a smart phone to take pictures every day or every 
other day  and send them to your Medical Wound Doctor.  I'm sure by now, your 
wound  has been de-breeded and measured before the wound vac was applied.  
Wound  Vacs can be a pain in your butt, but you know that already.  If you have 
an  aid, have them watch what is done, so they can know what to do if tubes 
to the  vac become tangled or your alarm goes off.  How many pounds of Vac, 
are you  using?  An air mattress is most important and laying on your side 
at night  time. I truly hope you don't smoke, as that will delay the healing 
 process.
Do well my friend.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/17/2017 7:41:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bmatt...@earthlink.net writes:

I  have a Stage 4 pressure wound on my tailbone –  my first ever!  Doc  is 
recommending a Wound Vac and perhaps a "low air loss" bed mattress.  Anybody 
have any experience with either? How am I going to function with  a Wound 
Vac attached to my butt? Do they work quickly?   Also,I don't  have a 
hospital bed –  I share a regular queen-size mattress with my wife  – so I'm 
not 
eager to make my bedroom into a hospital room. What sort of beds  do you all 
use? Maybe a Roho overlay would be good enough?  
Thanks for your thoughts.
Best,
Ben  (SMA quad, 54 years  old)

Re: [QUAD-L] Battery Drain?

[wheelchair]

Batteries are all 12 volts. Their amperage will vary from 15 amps, 35 amps, 
 55 amp and 75 amp, but they are all 12 volts.  That is why most chairs 
have  2 batteries to provide 24 volts.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/10/2017 10:12:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
da...@immortaldesigns.co writes:

 
Are they gel and how old? If they’re gel they’ll start to  form crystals 
if it sits for long periods of time while not being in use or on  the charger 
according to the my local chair company. When mine did it said it  was 100% 
but died within 15 minutes of use kind of like you’re  describing.
Most newer ones are 24 volt gel and medical will pay for 1  every 2 years “
if I remember correctly”. 
-Danny


 
From: greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent:  Wednesday, May 10, 2017 7:10 PM
To:  quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Battery  Drain?

 
My batteries  wont hold a charge. I can't go more than a few streets now. 
Changed batteries,  twice. Now waiting for a new joystick. I'm hoping it's 
causing a power drain.  Trying to fix it before I get a new chair.
 

 
Any ideas to  have them look at or check?
 
What can drain  power so fast? It says it's fully charged.
 

 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Battery Drain?

[wheelchair]

It could be the quality of the batteries.  It could be a motor  issue.  The 
motor is made up of a gear unit and magnet brake combo. It  could be a bad 
control module, It could be a bad head (joystick).  Each  item or items has 
to be evaluated for integrity.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/10/2017 9:30:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

My  batteries wont hold a charge. I can't go more than a few streets now. 
Changed  batteries, twice. Now waiting for a new joystick. I'm hoping it's 
causing a  power drain. Trying to fix it before I get a new chair.
 
Any ideas  to have them look at or check?
What can  drain power so fast? It says it's fully charged.
 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Would this enable a person to use a cell phone completely hands-...

[wheelchair]

One can also check with their respective State's Adaptive Equipment  
Agency-(sponsored by the March of Dimes) to try out devices, before you buy  
them.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/4/2017 12:58:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
poaj...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 
It certainly will  not.  It says right on the information you need to 
click.  I think  you have had several ideas sent your way in the past that 
would 
work for  you.  Here are two: http://nobuttonsheadset.com/ , 
https://www.cnet.com/news/touch-free-phone-disabled-app-quadriplegic-sesame-app-tech-enabled
/,  also you obviously use a computer, and you can put an app on it called 
Txtdrop  http://download.cnet.com/webware/txtdrop/3260-20_4-6301392-1.html,  
to send text messages and it will reply on your computer.  I hope this  
helps. 
 
 
From: DEBRA DEW  [mailto:n14...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: 01 May, 2017 9:41  PM
To: DEBRA DEW ;  quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Would this enable a person to  use a cell phone 
completely hands-free by voice  only?

 
Please help  me to ascertain if this would enable me to use a cell phone 
completely  hands-free by voice only. Having a phone would give me a great 
deal of  security, which I am currently in lack of, if I could have a cell 
phone to  call for assistance with when I am in a bad 
situation.http://www.pcbyvoice.com/shop/clicktophone-disability-mobile/ 
 
 
Debra Scruggs-Scruggs  phalanx-dragon slayers -PRISONER OF HOPE ZECH. 9
Formerly: Homeschooling mom of  9 and pvt. pilot
Currently: Quadrapeligic due to  advanced MS and living in a nursing home
Phone:  561-588-4333
SC student 20yrs   
ROMANS  8:28   
 
B.I.B.L.E.-BASIC  INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING  EARTH 

Re: [QUAD-L] Ask For Help

[wheelchair]

I remember a decade ago and Dr Tom, from Uro-Cycler, in Florida that sold a 
 legbag with tiny ceramic magnets to auto empty the bladder.  And then  
another company using a parachute cord to release fluids, from a collection bag 
 and 2 other companies using low volts solenoids to auto empty collection  
bags.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/4/2017 5:04:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cpinte...@comcast.net writes:

 
FYI for emptying leg bags  without assistance from another person: 
http://www.spinalcordinjuryzone.com/news/10524/people-spinal-cord-injury-emp
ty-urinary-leg-bag-assistance-pump 
 
 
From: greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent:  Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:47 AM
To:  quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Ask For  Help

 
Hey  guys,
 

 
How do you feel  about asking strangers for help? And how far would you go…
 

 
I use to HATE  asking strangers for help. Now I do all the time. Usually 
just simple things  like: Asking if they can hand me something, or pick up 
something I dropped,  etc. Yesterday I was at the store and they were giving 
out samples of shrimp.  They asked if I wanted one. It looked so good, I had 
to try it. So I asked if  hey could scoop it in my mouth for me. I did that 
once before with  stuffed mushroom. 
 

 
Have you, or  would you ask a stranger to empty your legbag? If not, what 
if you were so  full, you are going through AD?
 

 
Adjust you in  your chair?
 

 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Females! Do you use ostomy pouches for urine only?

[wheelchair]

Most, who actually use that system are those with Spna Bifida, rather than  
Spinal Cord Injury.  Granted, there are a few, but far between. Consider  
some of the other methods,
 
Supra-pubic
Indwelling
Texas Cath
Self Taps Cath.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/4/2017 5:44:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cpinte...@comcast.net writes:

 
Hi ladies, 
Do you, or any paralyzed woman you know, have a urostomy  bag? I’m 
researching quads who urinate through a stoma into the bag, and then  simply 
empty 
the bag, rather than catheterizng through the stoma (aka,  umbilicus 
urostomy). 
I’m not finding much research on the topic, but I thought  of all of you! 
I’d appreciate any experience or info you might  have. 
Thank you so very much, 
Carrie 

Re: [QUAD-L] Purple or black colored toes and feet

[wheelchair]

consult with a medical doctor, and test to determine if this observation is 
 not good, or good... for YOUR body.  It doesn't sound normal or medically  
good, short term or long term for one's body. Lack of circulation in any 
form  does not benefit the health of one's body. Prognosis, by medical experts 
should  be on one's bucket list.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/29/2017 8:39:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
lwillis82...@gmail.com writes:

That happens to me occasionally. Feet swell pretty bad too. We wrap lower  
leg in ace bandage and that helps quite a bit.

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:



Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
From:  Carolyn Boyles 
Date:  April 29, 2017 at 7:02:15 PM EDT
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] Purple or black colored toes and  feet




It sounds like a very dangerous situation to me, one requiring a  doctor's 
advice ASAP so as not to lose the toes to  gangrene.

Carolyn



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Re: [QUAD-L] Ask For Help

[wheelchair]

Sure, no problem.  Just make sure you thank them.  Kind of like  asking 
someone the time or a light.  Always, remember the thanks.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/26/2017 10:47:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

Hey  guys,
 
How do you  feel about asking strangers for help? And how far would you go…
 
I use to  HATE asking strangers for help. Now I do all the time. Usually 
just simple  things like: Asking if they can hand me something, or pick up 
something I  dropped, etc. Yesterday I was at the store and they were giving 
out samples of  shrimp. They asked if I wanted one. It looked so good, I had 
to try it. So I  asked if hey could scoop it in my mouth for me. I did that 
once before with  stuffed mushroom. 
 
Have you,  or would you ask a stranger to empty your legbag? If not, what 
if you were so  full, you are going through AD?
 
Adjust you  in your chair?
 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sex

[wheelchair]

There are two that I know of and advertised at New Mobility Magazine and  
their website.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/21/2017 9:31:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cammo...@msn.com writes:

Do any of you use vibrators to stimulate yourselves and if so do you know  
any good ones..or in that department ..?? something i can use as a  quad?

Re: [QUAD-L] Hey Greg

[wheelchair]

I am told, its not a compression item, nor was it meant to be. The only  
thing I can determine is a reflective weave.
 
Much will be clearer, when I get and try my 1st order.  I'll let all  know.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/20/2017 12:13:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

Not sure why that would do  much, but I'm no doctor.
Looks like a long sleeve  t-shirt, not even tight. I thought maybe it would 
be super tight for  compression. Interesting.
 
Greg


> Hey Folks.  Earlier  this year a company in sports call Under Armour
> released a new product  called Recovery Sleepwear.  A guy name Tom
> Brady, 39 years old and a  quarterback for the New England Pats has
> been using Recovery  Sleepwear for the last 2 football
> seasons... and  swears by the product.
> Here's a guy going on 40  this year who takes a physical pounding
> every week and seems to  recovery, to win the next weekend.  He
> swears by this product.  
> I had to think and wonder  about others that work 12 hours a day
> with  physical
> know.  I can't say  for sure and I'm not endorsing the product just
> yet.  I am only  sharing this information.  You can see and judge
> for yourselves if the  product has any merits.   Google-  Under
> Armour Recovery  Sleepware.  It is available for Men and Women.   If
> the product reduces aches  and pains who knows. Best Wishes  
>
> In a message dated  4/19/2017 9:44:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> lwillis82...@gmail.com  writes:
>
>>
>> My pain is mostly  in the front part of my shoulder. My arm
>> becomes very weak.  It hurts so bad at night I can't sleep. Just
>> miserable. Have you  tried any of the joint supplements like Move
>> Free?
>>
>> Sent from my  iPad
>>
>> Begin forwarded  message:
>>
>>
>>> From: greg  
>>> Date:  April
>>> 18, 2017 at  11:40:55 PM EDT
>>> To: Larry  Willis 
>>>  Subject:
>>> Re: [QUAD-L]  Life etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> I  feel
>>> that way when  my shoulder acts up, and its more and more often.
>>> Still can't  find the cause. CAT-Scan, MRI, Xray, Nerve test for
>>> pinched nerve.  Nothing.
>>>
>
> My next
>>> tests will be  Thyroid. Doesn't sound logical, but I read a
>>> Thyroid issue  caj  cause severe, stabbing, shoulder pain.
>>>
>
> It's
>>> either fine, or  unbearable stabbing under my shoulder blade. I
>>> swear there is  a knife stuck in me.
>>>
>
> Know the
>>> cause of your  shoulder pain?
> Meds help
>>> my hip H.O.,  but doesn't dent my shoulder.
>>>
> Greg
>>>
>>>
>> My greatest issues  at
>>> this time are  stabbing shoulder pain and
>> killer  depression.
>>> Sometimes I  want to crawl in a box and close the
>> lid. 46 years of  this
>>> agony is more  than any human should have to
>> endure. Feeling  blue
>>> and useless.  Larry W.
>> Sent from  my
>>>  iPad

Re: [QUAD-L] Hey Greg

[wheelchair]

Hey Folks.  Earlier this year a company in sports call Under Armour  
released a new product called Recovery Sleepwear.  A guy name Tom Brady, 39  
years 
old and a quarterback for the New England Pats has been using Recovery  
Sleepwear for the last 2 football seasons... and swears by the  product.
Here's a guy going on 40 this year who takes a physical pounding every week 
 and seems to recovery, to win the next weekend.  He swears by this  
product.
 
I had to think and wonder about others that work 12 hours a day with  
physical 
know.  I can't say for sure and I'm not endorsing the product just  yet.  I 
am only sharing this information.  You can see and judge for  yourselves if 
the product has any merits.
 
Google-  Under Armour Recovery Sleepware.  It is available for  Men and 
Women.
 
If the product reduces aches and pains who knows.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/19/2017 9:44:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
lwillis82...@gmail.com writes:

My pain is mostly in the front part of my shoulder. My arm becomes very  
weak. It hurts so bad at night I can't sleep. Just miserable. Have you tried  
any of the joint supplements like Move Free?

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:



From: greg 
Date: April  18, 2017 at 11:40:55 PM EDT
To: Larry Willis 
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] Life etc.




 
I feel  that way when my shoulder acts up, and its more and more often. 
Still can't  find the cause. CAT-Scan, MRI, Xray, Nerve test for pinched nerve. 
 Nothing.
 
My next  tests will be Thyroid. Doesn't sound logical, but I read a Thyroid 
issue caj  cause severe, stabbing, shoulder pain. 
 
It's  either fine, or unbearable stabbing under my shoulder blade. I swear 
there  is a knife stuck in me. 
 
Know the  cause of your shoulder pain? 
Meds help  my hip H.O., but doesn't dent my shoulder.
 
Greg


>
> My greatest issues at  this time are stabbing shoulder pain and
> killer depression.  Sometimes I want to crawl in a box and close the
> lid. 46 years of this  agony is more than any human should have to
> endure. Feeling blue  and useless. Larry W.
> Sent from my  iPad

Re: [QUAD-L] Grants

[wheelchair]

Grants vary from State to State.  Federal Grants and Corporate Grants  are 
in a league of their own.  Let's begin with Az.  Have you tried  your state 
dept for independent living?  Your State Advocate for People  with 
DisAbilities?
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 4/19/2017 8:52:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

Anyone know of a Grant for  disabled persons starting a business? National 
or AZ?
 
Or anything that might  benefit a business?


I need to get a Business  License, so it will be an official business. I 
might go to Art Street Fairs,  local Art Walks, etc. Was just hopin there 
might be Grants out  there?
 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] 44th Anniversary

[wheelchair]

Happy Easter.  Stop reviewing your past and plan for your future and  all 
the good things possible.  The past is so remember'able, but can be  toxic, 
to your present. Your future has so many unknowns, so planning is so  
important. Do well, my friend.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/15/2017 8:39:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com writes:

April  17th will be 44 years since I flew over the handle bars of a 250 
Kawalski  motorcycle  

I just now tried to call 3 friends, just to talk, but no  one answered. 

So I decide to contact my peps.

I'm feeling blue  this year for some reason, most likely because I've been 
stuck in bed with a  minor wound.
I'll be getting up Easter Day at least. Pete's brother, Jim,  is coming 
over ... we're the same age and always have a blast.

Have a  great day everyone!
Bobbie 

"Be the change you want to see in the  world". Gandhi

Re: [QUAD-L] Billy Kimberlin

[wheelchair]

Thank You. Bill, was indeed a very special person and influence here.
May He Rest in Peace.
Thank You.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 4/10/2017 2:27:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
justinkimber...@gmail.com writes:

This is  Billy Kimberlin's brother Justin.  Today is national  siblings
day.  I was on Facebook today looking at my brother's page  and
realized that we never sent a message to the list letting you  know
about Billy's passing.  I know that the list really meant a lot  to
Billy.  He had been on the list since sometime in the mid to  late
1990s. April 5th would have been 22 years of injury since his  accident
on April 5, 2017.

On Monday October 17th he went to the  V.A. hospital for a UTI that he
gotten really bad during the weekend.   At his request they sent him
home with IV antibiotics.  They sent a  home care nurse to check on him
at least once a day.  On Tuesday the  nurse said he would hospitalize
Billy if he didn't eat or drink.  On  Wednesday morning Billy was
drinking water and suddenly stopped  responding.  His heart had
stopped.  It wasn't until the next day  that they knew he was gone.  In
his passing, Billy was able to save  one life as an organ donor.  I am
posting a copy of his obituary at  the bottom.  I will leave you with
one of Billy's favorite quotes,  which is also one of my favorite
quotes.


"You know, I used to  think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then
I thought, wouldn't it be  much worse if life were fair, and all the
terrible things that happen to us  come because we actually deserve
them? So, now I take great comfort in the  general hostility and
unfairness of the universe."

--  Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5:"A Late Delivery from  Avalon"


KIMBERLIN,  Billy Paul II

52, Wesley Chapel, passed away October 20, 2016. He was  born in Naval
Submarine Base, New London, Groton, CT. Billy was a graduate  of the
University of South Florida majoring in history. He served as  a
Florida Highway Patrolman in Pinellas County and from 1982 to  1995
served in the United States Army in Germany and Dessert Storm as  an
M.P. Billy was predeceased by his mother, Deanna Kimberlin. Left  to
cherish his memory are his father, Gerald Kimberlin; his  step-mother,
Janet Kimberlin; his wife, Lydia Kimberlin; his two brothers,  Justin
Kimberlin (Laila) and Kevin Kimberlin (Terry) (Ashlyn); his  niece,
Julia Galleguez (R.J.); and three nephews, Austin Kimberlin,  Gabriel
Bryant, and Devin Kimberlin. A celebration of life will be held  at
Central Christian Church, 1200 S. Keene Rd., Clearwater, on  Sunday,
November 6, 2016 at 3 pm. Memorial contributions may be made to  the
Paralyzed Veterans of  USA.

Re: [QUAD-L] Billy Kimberlin's passing...

[wheelchair]

Thank You for the update and May He Rest in Peace.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/30/2017 8:33:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
lorilivin...@gmail.com writes:

 
I don't know if any of you  remember but not too long ago I asked any of 
you if you have heard from Billy  Kimberlin (a long-term member of the Quad 
list). I had not heard from him in a  long while and we used to e-mail back 
and forth or I would see him on the few  occasions that I log into Facebook. 


Perhaps I am "Lori come  lately" with the news and following information 
about Billy and his passing  but others on Facebook know about his death.


I began to have the gut  feeling that something had happened to him. So I 
just logged into Facebook now  to see his homepage and, sure enough, he 
passed away last October. A Facebook  friend of his wrote the following:



I'm  deeply saddened by the loss of my dear friend _Billy Kimberlin_ 
(https://www.facebook.com/billy.kimberlin.5) . In  tribute to the kind, gentle 
soul he was I would like to share a bit about  him. 
My  friend spent most of his life serving others in one capacity or 
another. He  fought to keep our country safe as an Army Police Drill Sergeant 
and 
as a  State Trooper. That is until one day a terrible tragedy struck. A 
bicycle  accident that left him paralyzed. In testament to the kind of person 
he 
was,  in the 15 years that I’ve known him, I have  never heard him complain 
about the raw hand he was dealt. He even wrote this  piece in his “about me”
 section on Facebook… 
 
“unlike a lot of people I  am lucky enough to be prematurely retired. All I’
m doing now is making sure  that I’m constantly busy, so I don’t get too 
bored.” 
He considered himself  “lucky”. His way of staying busy was giving back to 
his community any way he  could. He volunteered on a number of our 
neighborhood boards and committees.  Everyone he met was his friend. He didn’t 
shy 
away from uncomfortable  questions about his handicap, but instead he would 
educate them in his ever so  gentle manner. Including my young inquisitive 
children. He always had a  welcoming smile on his face regardless of how some 
days he just didn’t feel  good. For me, Billy will always be one of the most 
respected human beings I  will have ever been fortunate enough to have had 
in my life.



-- 

 
 
"Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the  mind and 
heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer."  ~Dean 
 Koontz

Re: [QUAD-L] Hoyer lift not working

[wheelchair]

those lift, employ fluids to work.  How old is the pump and when was  the 
last time it was serviced?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/15/2017 8:21:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com writes:

I got  into bed, then tried to pump the lift back up, but it would not move.
Could  it be the hydrolocks?
Help, Bobbie 

"Be the change you want to see  in the world". Gandhi

Re: [QUAD-L] Power wheelchair getting stuck on oriental rug.

[wheelchair]

Electric Wheelchairs, and rugs/carpets, are a no no.  Granted it may  take 
more time if its a tack down vs a throw rug, but any rug.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/9/2017 7:15:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 
One possible answer would be buy some  duralock plastic Velcro and stick 
the edges down. Im sure this wont be popular  with the housekeeper. Or like 
you say find some plastic edging to lay on the  start of the rug, might still 
need the plastic Velcro though called  duralock.


ron




 
 
On Thursday, March 9, 2017 6:22 PM, Dave  Krehbiel 
<davekrehb...@earthlink.net> wrote:




   
 
 
We have hardwood floors, and in one room we  have an oriental rug. At first 
I was able to drive my chair into the room  without any problems. But 
lately, my wheelchair seems to be grabbing the  Oriental rug, and the rug and 
up 
wrapped around my drive wheels.
 
Maybe it is because the rug is getting  older. Maybe it is because I'm 
driving a different wheelchair. But I'm  wondering, has anyone else had this 
problem? I'm considering buying one of  those clear plastic mats people buy to 
put under their desks in office spaces,  and to use that as a sort of a 
pathway for bridge onto the rug.
 
Does anyone have any experience or  suggestions or ideas?
 
Thanks so much, and take care,
 
Dave Krehbiel



 

 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Wall Damage From Chair

[wheelchair]

The big box stores and lumber yard, have plastic, pvc and stainless wall  
corners for such the applications.  I like the more expensive stainless  
steel corners used in hospitals and nursing homes as they last much longer than 
 
the plastic or pvc corner protectors.  
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/7/2017 9:38:32 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

After a few  years in your house, how do you walls, doors, look from chair 
damage? I've  been so careful not to crash, scrape, bang, into things. After 
12 years here,  things still look pretty good. I have a tight 2 turns to 
get into my room, No  issues there. Coming out of my room I have 1 big ding on 
a counter corner,  and1 big ding on corner of the frig. Both from backing 
up. My living room has  a step down, a friend built an oak ramp. I have some 
scrapes on the ramp from  when my footrest is down to low. That's it inside, 
but my front door is  trashed. I push it open with my footrest, often my 
joystick box scrapes it as  it closes. I put a brass plate on the bottom, but 
my footrest often misses it.  Oh, the biggest damage inside is the wall by 
my bed. I back in and ding the  wall a lot, plus when I to transfer they lift 
my armrest back and it hits the  wall. A few holes there now. I now have a 
piece of plywood there.
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Slot Nuts

[wheelchair]

These special metric fasteners are special ordered from China, and  metric. 
 You might find something close in SAE, but not like the original  one.  
What brand of chair... are they on?
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/2/2017 7:12:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
jsga...@yahoo.com writes:

 
If you don't have a regular wheelchair  place you deal with, then probably 
a hardware store. That's where I would  look.
Jeff



 
 
  

 From: greg  <g...@eskimo.com>
To:  quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent:  Thursday, March 2, 2017 5:01 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Slot  Nuts


  
 
You know the little  slots on the side on the chairs back, or seat pan. So 
you can slide brackets  on and screw things to it.
I think they are  called Slot Nuts. I can find T shaped ones, but I need 
square or rectangled  ones.
Anyone know where to  buy these? I need like a 1/4 inch thread, about 3/4 
wide.
Thanks  much,
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Slot Nuts

[wheelchair]

You might be surprised to discover they are metric. and available from the  
manufacturer.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/2/2017 7:02:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

You know the little  slots on the side on the chairs back, or seat pan. So 
you can slide brackets  on and screw things to it.
I think they are  called Slot Nuts. I can find T shaped ones, but I need 
square or rectangled  ones.
Anyone know where to  buy these? I need like a 1/4 inch thread, about 3/4 
wide.
Thanks  much,
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Botox For Spasms

[wheelchair]

Not all, respond to botox, as it is a bacteria.  A simple test, can  prove 
or disprove it.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 2/25/2017 7:18:48 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
cboy...@swbell.net writes:

I have  no personal experience with it, but I would have concerns about 
being  injected with the same bacteria that causes botulism, especially 
with a  spinal cord injury.

Carolyn C3-7  Incomplete

Re: [QUAD-L] ? about Irrigating Catheter

[wheelchair]

Have you considered that most doctors, nurses and medical staff, have never 
 been cath'ed.  Sterile Conditions, sterile water, a teaspoon of white  
vinegar.   Deep Breaths help relax the control muscle and 2% zilocaine  is 
recommended when pain is involved.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 2/8/2017 11:00:58 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

sterile  water.

Re: [QUAD-L] Chair Stopped

[wheelchair]

I've seen it happen after batteries were changed by non certified tech who  
was in a hurry and did not double check their work.  Loose cables don't  
issue or generate an systems error codes.  But one has to start with basic  
energy before going to steps 2,3, 4 , 5 and so on.
Best Wishes
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/7/2017 2:36:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

I had the battiried changed a few months  ago.
I think that was the issue. Had the battery  box opened and it started 
working, then went dead again.
Then the wire fell off. Got it tightened up  and I'm going again. Thank 
goodness.
I've been out a lot lately, could have  happened any time.
I think I just posted about that. Asking if  others ever went deed while 
out alone.
My fear is getting stuck middle of  street.
Greg


> How long has it been  since you got new batteries? Hope you get  the

Re: [QUAD-L] Chair Stopped

[wheelchair]

If you have a multi-meter, place a probe into the charge port and measure  
the voltage in the joystick head.
You should have 25-27 volts dc.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 2/6/2017 7:10:31 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

Went down a  ramp into my front room, and blank… my chair goes dead. Just 
turned off. Tried  turning on/off, checking wires, nothing. At least it was 
at home. Only once  has my chair died while I was out. Unfortunately, I 
wasn't all the way across  the street when it died. Though fortunately my 
neighbor was driving by and got  me out of the street. Now I hope it doesn't 
take 
weeks to fix, my backup has  no batteries.
 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Google Logo

[wheelchair]

Saw it. Kewl
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/23/2017 8:12:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

Todays Google Logo is  quad cartoon image.

Re: [QUAD-L] Art Gallery

[wheelchair]

Do you have a written contract with all the necessary details?I don't 
want to see you on People's Court with Judge Judy...
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/20/2017 6:53:44 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

I got some great news  this week. I was excepted by an Art Gallery. They 
are going to show and sell  some of my photos. They picked 12 photos they 
wanted. They want to start with  what ever 6 or 7 first. I just sent an order 
to 
get some prints made, from  11x14, up to a couple 24x36 prints. Too bad 
frames cost so darn much. Plus  mats. 
 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[wheelchair]

Have YOU consider a written appeal to your insurance.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/19/2017 8:39:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

I was at St. Joseph's wheelchair clinic,  with a dealer rep. 
They said Medicare wont cover seat raisers anymore for  any reason.
Even with a docs orders. We are going to  write it up and hope. I'll try 
appealing.
Have to at least try.
Greg
 
> A medical doctor that  specializes in rehab medicine, can order such
> based on your medical  needs. Best Wishes  
>
> In a message dated  1/19/2017 7:07:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> g...@eskimo.com  writes:
>
>>
>> Had an  appointment
>> yesterday, getting  fit for a new chair. They said my AARP
>> Medicare  Replacement does not cover seat elevators or bigger
>> motors. I  understand not covering faster motors, but I need the
>> seat raised to get  transfered. It costs like $2,500-$3,000 to add
>> it. Same for bigger  motors. Thats $5-6,000, just for that. Plus
>> 20% Ouch...  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[wheelchair]

A medical doctor that specializes in rehab medicine, can order such based  
on your medical needs.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/19/2017 7:07:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

Had an appointment  yesterday, getting fit for a new chair. They said my 
AARP Medicare Replacement  does not cover seat elevators or bigger motors. I 
understand not covering  faster motors, but I need the seat raised to get 
transfered. It costs like  $2,500-$3,000 to add it. Same for bigger motors. 
Thats $5-6,000, just for  that. Plus 20% Ouch...  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] testing

[wheelchair]

In the beginning of this year I had the same issue, everyday for a week and 
 I just re-applied.  I haven't had any issues the last couple weeks.
 
Any time someone replies to all on the quadlist dozens of past subscribers  
leaving the quad list, leaving ghost addresses that get return via Damon.   
This causes AOL some grief and is responsible for those dropped  
memberships.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/16/2017 1:26:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
jlu...@eskimo.com writes:

you could get a free gmail account and either:  
 
1.  forward your gmail to your aol email  
2.  use gmail to retrieve your aol email.
I use gmail as my main email and have it setup to get my mail from  aol, 
hotmail, msn and comcast accounts via pop3. I found  gmail has better spam 
filters. 



On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:44 AM,  wrote:

I use AOL so get kicked off all the  time.

[QUAD-L] Kind Words and Thought- Holiday Season

[wheelchair]

Thank You for your kind and thoughtful words.  I know of two families  that 
will have their Holiday Celebration impacted by the passing of a loved  
one.  Our family, with the loss of our son Chris, back in June, and the  other 
person's entire family.  For both our families it is and will always  be a 
painful thought.  I am reminded daily, after all this time, by his  friends 
and care-givers.  Those Facebook contacts from all over the world,  who still 
contact me regarding their pain of losing a good friend. His friends,  and 
former classmates that graduated with him from Ball State U and from members 
 of the Government and Justice Dept who he worked with and served.  And  
last, but not the least, the racing community of almost 30 years.
Our family is Christian and we all knew that he was on loan to us. His  
Mother and Brothers, along with his Sister in Law and his niece and nephews 
will  meet this weekend to celebrate Christmas and talks of and about Chris.  
He  meant so much to us and we will share our pictures, videos and memories.
Let this be an example to all on what a great person he was, that he  
continues to inspire others in the healthcare industry, the racing industry, 
the  
education and justice system, even after his untimely passing.
To All I Wish A Very Merry and Holy Christmas.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/23/2016 4:38:19 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
fgdhol...@cox.net writes:

Im thinking of this time of year how with the joy and hope we there is  
often increased sadness for those who have family and friends who have passed  
on to the other side. 


There are probably others on this list who are  mourning but I'm 
particularly thinking of "Wheelchair" who had a recent and  sudden loss of his 
son. 


Thank you Wheelchair for continuing to contribute  to this list even as no 
doubt the pain is still so fresh and raw.


May  God comfort you and bring you  peace.




Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 23, 2016, at 3:15 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote:



 
Oxy, is a very potent and dangerous drug.  Users, should not  advertise its 
use. It can become habit forming is less than 90 days of  use.  The FDA, is 
cracking down on pain doctors, on its use for pain  meds.  Those seniors 
with shoulder, hips and knee replacements are  becoming addicted to the drug, 
without knowing it, which only adds to the  health care cost as they go into 
recovery clinic to kick the drug. The  symptoms should be reported to the 
doctor that issued the RX.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/23/2016 12:57:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 
It is a different shaped pill,  usually I get round ones but this time they 
are elongated oval shape.  Could be a little different causing the issue. I 
was concerned of my  stomach lining maybe getting screwed up.


Ron 




 
 
On Friday, December 23, 2016 12:52  PM, Larry Willis 
<lwillis82...@gmail.com>  wrote:




 
 
Ron, have you had a new prescription filled lately? Sometimes I'll  get a 
batch that cause me to itch terribly. With the next bottle the  itching goes 
away. Bad batch, I assume. Are you taking it in combo with  anything else?

Larry Willis  
Retired and proud of it





On Dec 22, 2016, at 9:46 PM, RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>  
wrote:




 
Why would taking oxycodone cause my head to sweat and go into mild  
dysreflexia? Ive been on it for 4 years and it never did this to me. I  hope 
its 
not stomach lining damage or something??


Ron

















=

Re: [QUAD-L] pain pills causind A.D.

[wheelchair]

Oxy, is a very potent and dangerous drug.  Users, should not advertise  its 
use. It can become habit forming is less than 90 days of use.  The FDA,  is 
cracking down on pain doctors, on its use for pain meds.  Those seniors  
with shoulder, hips and knee replacements are becoming addicted to the drug,  
without knowing it, which only adds to the health care cost as they go into  
recovery clinic to kick the drug. The symptoms should be reported to the 
doctor  that issued the RX.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/23/2016 12:57:34 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 
It is a different shaped pill, usually  I get round ones but this time they 
are elongated oval shape. Could be a  little different causing the issue. I 
was concerned of my stomach lining maybe  getting screwed up.


Ron 




 
 
On Friday, December 23, 2016 12:52 PM,  Larry Willis 
 wrote:




 
 
Ron, have you had a new prescription filled lately? Sometimes I'll get a  
batch that cause me to itch terribly. With the next bottle the itching goes  
away. Bad batch, I assume. Are you taking it in combo with anything else?

Larry Willis  
Retired and proud of it





On Dec 22, 2016, at 9:46 PM, RONALD L PRACHT   
wrote:




 
Why would taking oxycodone cause my head to sweat and go into mild  
dysreflexia? Ive been on it for 4 years and it never did this to me. I hope  
its 
not stomach lining damage or something??


Ron

Re: [QUAD-L] hi

[wheelchair]

Welcome Annette!  What have you done since? There are so many here  willing 
to share their stories and experiences.  Again, Welcome.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/16/2016 5:58:54 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
atsxn...@mchsi.com writes:

 
I heard about this group from a friend and she thought I would benefit  
from like she does.
 
My name is Annette.  I am a level C 5/6/7 break.  My spinal  cord has only 
a few strains still connected. 
I had my accident May 30th 1981 just after my Junior year of high  school.  
I am a 35 plus year survivor.
 
I don’t mind being asked questions about my accident and life since so if  
someone is interested just ask.
 
I look forward to being part of this group.
 
Annette

Re: [QUAD-L] Pressure Sore

[wheelchair]

Something not mention but relevant.  A picture of your wound, Daily,  sent 
to your attending MD and wound specialist.  This way they have a daily  view 
of what they are up against. A metric ruler is also a great guide  tool.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/15/2016 5:41:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
wheel...@centurylink.net writes:

get off & lay on side as long as you  can.
Can you put a special pillow between your thighs to keep it open for  
catheter as you lay on your side?
i bought a large pregnancy pillow to help  keeping me on my side.
derrick w
On 12/15/2016 2:13 PM, Nichole Rohling  wrote:



I’ve been paralyzed 18 ½ years and have had 1 pressure  sore at the top of 
my butt crack a few years after my injury. One of my  caregivers noticed 
last night I am getting another one. I am pretty sure  it’s from laying on my 
back in bed. I prop my feet up and my pillow top has  a deep indention where 
my butt is. I do have a air bed on top of the  mattress. 
I can’t lay on my side because my catheter doesn’t drain.  Suggestions 
please on how you would relieve pressure on this area.   
Home health nurse left me aquacell to put on it but they  are 6 x 6 ……
..she said just cut them but that leaves 2 edges that aren’t  sealed and I 
thought you weren’t suppose to put that directly on an open  sore? 
Nicki

Re: [QUAD-L] Pressure Sore

[wheelchair]

I don't believe that AquaCell are sterile, but clean.  Use a clean  
scissors to make the cuts.  Pressure sores should always be taken very  serious.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/15/2016 1:14:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
I’ve been paralyzed 18 ½ years and have had 1 pressure sore  at the top of 
my butt crack a few years after my injury. One of my caregivers  noticed 
last night I am getting another one. I am pretty sure it’s from laying  on my 
back in bed. I prop my feet up and my pillow top has a deep indention  where 
my butt is. I do have a air bed on top of the mattress. 
I can’t lay on my side because my catheter doesn’t drain.  Suggestions 
please on how you would relieve pressure on this area.   
Home health nurse left me aquacell to put on it but they  are 6 x 6 ……
..she said just cut them but that leaves 2 edges that aren’t  sealed and I 
thought you weren’t suppose to put that directly on an open  sore? 
Nicki

Re: [QUAD-L] Chair Shop

[wheelchair]

When calling Invacare, make sure you have the serial number and name of the 
 provider.  Also the parts ordered and status.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/4/2016 11:50:36 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
Definitely  rotten. After calling last Mon and Wed and not getting a call 
back (was told  they weren’t to interrupt her), I called Friday and when I 
was told the lady  was w/ a customer did I want to leave a message I said no, 
give me her  boss. 
I  did get to talk to someone but I don’t think my parts were ordered. I’m 
 calling Invacare tomorrow! 
Nicki 
 
 
From: _wheelchair@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com)  
[mailto:wheelch...@aol.com]  
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 6:10 PM
To: _zoocrew1@windstream.net_ (mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net) ; 
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] Chair Shop

 
Something  smells rotten in your area. Did you call and ask the issue.  Are 
the  parts backordered or were they late in ordering, because some 
employees only  work 32 hour weeks.  You have the right to know the part 
numbers as 
well.  You can call the manufacture to determine if the part numbers are in 
or  backordered.
 
It is  also possible that your provider is on credit hold, due to slow or 
lack of  payment.
 
You  can work behind the scene to get all of your answers and perhaps, 
faster  service.
 

 
Best  Wishes
 

 
 
In a  message dated 12/2/2016 4:32:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
_zoocrew1@windstream.net_ (mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net)   writes:

 
I  bought out of pocket in March from a battery supply business and they  
covered 2nd set in June/July but said it had to be my chair. DME  came out in 
July and was suppose to order new batteries and parts. I called  in 
September asking where are my batteries and parts? Never got ordered.  They 
replaced batteries Sept 9 with MK brand and replaced Oct 31 but said MK  won’t 
warranty my current set. My parts won’t be in supposedly until Dec 14  and by 
then I am sure my batteries will be bad. I don’t feel I should pay  out of 
pocket since I’ve been trying to get them to fix my chair since  July. 
Nicki 
 
 
From:  _wheelchair@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com)  
[mailto:wheelch...@aol.com]  
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:34 PM
To: _zoocrew1@windstream.net_ (mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net) 
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] Chair Shop

 
MK  batteries are both expensive and the best, when treated right.  The  
failure rate on those imported China Batteries have a very high failure rate  
and only a 6 month warranty.  Make sure you place a note or sticker on  each 
battery, as to when it was installed,  then hold your provider's  feet to 
the fire.
 

 
Best  Wishes
 

 
 
In  a message dated 12/1/2016 6:13:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
_zoocrew1@windstream.net_ (mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net)   writes:

 
Mine  is doing the same thing…….finally ordered new battery boxes, joy 
stick,  receive where battery box plugs in……..we’ll see if it fixes it. I’m 
on my  4th set of new batteries since March 
Nicki 
 
 
From:  greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent:  Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:48 PM
To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Subject:  [QUAD-L] Chair Shop

 
The chair shop just sent a guy  out to check my chair, to see why the 
batteries are not holding a charge.  I get about 3 to 4 miles. I use to go 8 
miles fine. I do not think he knew  his butt from a hole in the ground. All his 
answers were “Charge it  longer, needs 12 hours a day” I've been in a chair 
34 years, never charged  it 12 hours a day and I wet 13 miles one day. Just 
got new batteries 2 ½  months ago. He did no real testing other than an 
Amp? Meter. They will  replace the batteries, and hope its that. Hope its not 
the chair draining  them for some reason. I'd like to get it at least running 
good before I  get a new one. I'd like to keep it as my backup.
 

 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Chair Shop

[wheelchair]

Thanks John.Sad, but true.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/2/2016 8:03:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
alcibiat...@yahoo.com writes:

All I  can think of is that you might want to try a good electronics person 
to check  your chairs. I use a 08 tdx and just went at least 6 miles and 
didn't use a  50% charge on 4 year old interstate maintenance free marine 
batteries. I got  them and a polycarbonate divider that I was told should 
always 
be used when  batteries are settled together. I haven't had a box with both 
batteries  together since the late 80s. Everest & Jennings used to nestle 
batteries  beside each other like this chair and they needed dividers that 
didn't  come with the chair. I don't know if this will help anyone but it's an 
 idea.   
I know that it's out of pocket ,  but electronic repair shops and  many 
auto mechanics have been more help to me than DME's. Much faster  too.
Best Wishes , 
John s . 

Re: [QUAD-L] Chair Shop

[wheelchair]

Something smells rotten in your area. Did you call and ask the issue.   Are 
the parts backordered or were they late in ordering, because some employees 
 only work 32 hour weeks.  You have the right to know the part numbers as  
well. You can call the manufacture to determine if the part numbers are in 
or  backordered.
It is also possible that your provider is on credit hold, due to slow or  
lack of payment.
You can work behind the scene to get all of your answers and perhaps,  
faster service.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/2/2016 4:32:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
I  bought out of pocket in March from a battery supply business and they 
covered  2nd set in June/July but said it had to be my chair. DME came out  in 
July and was suppose to order new batteries and parts. I called in  
September asking where are my batteries and parts? Never got ordered. They  
replaced batteries Sept 9 with MK brand and replaced Oct 31 but said MK won’t  
warranty my current set. My parts won’t be in supposedly until Dec 14 and by  
then I am sure my batteries will be bad. I don’t feel I should pay out of  
pocket since I’ve been trying to get them to fix my chair since  July. 
Nicki 
 
 
From:  wheelch...@aol.com [mailto:wheelch...@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday,  December 1, 2016 6:34 PM
To:  zoocr...@windstream.net
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Chair  Shop

 
MK  batteries are both expensive and the best, when treated right.  The  
failure rate on those imported China Batteries have a very high failure rate  
and only a 6 month warranty.  Make sure you place a note or sticker on  each 
battery, as to when it was installed,  then hold your provider's  feet to 
the fire.
 

 
Best  Wishes
 

 
 
In a  message dated 12/1/2016 6:13:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
_zoocrew1@windstream.net_ (mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net)   writes:

 
Mine  is doing the same thing…….finally ordered new battery boxes, joy 
stick,  receive where battery box plugs in……..we’ll see if it fixes it. I’m 
on my  4th set of new batteries since March 
Nicki 
 
 
From:  greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent:  Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:48 PM
To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Subject:  [QUAD-L] Chair Shop

 
The chair shop just sent a guy  out to check my chair, to see why the 
batteries are not holding a charge. I  get about 3 to 4 miles. I use to go 8 
miles fine. I do not think he knew his  butt from a hole in the ground. All his 
answers were “Charge it longer,  needs 12 hours a day” I've been in a chair 
34 years, never charged it 12  hours a day and I wet 13 miles one day. Just 
got new batteries 2 ½ months  ago. He did no real testing other than an 
Amp? Meter. They will replace the  batteries, and hope its that. Hope its not 
the chair draining them for some  reason. I'd like to get it at least running 
good before I get a new one. I'd  like to keep it as my backup.
 

 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Chair Shop

[wheelchair]

MK Batteries are the best on the market, bar none.  If they try and  supply 
you with vented lead acid batteries, let the manufacturer know using your  
vin or serial number of your chair.  Make sure that lead-acid batteries do  
not void any manufacturer warranty.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/1/2016 7:45:01 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 
I'm in almost the same exact situation as you Greg...I have  a meeting 
tomorrow with my medical supplier to help with trying to get a new  
chair...mine 
is over 7 years old and losing power just like yours...i used to  get about 
8 miles also when I had the jell type batteries my chair originally  came 
with  but they will only replace mine with the acid type when the  original 
ones wear out, they said due to cost and etc.  I hope I can get  a new chair 
with the jell batteries and keep this for a back-upbecause my  old back 
up chair is shot.  Dan H**




 
 
On Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:48 PM,  greg  wrote:




   
 
The chair  shop just sent a guy out to check my chair, to see why the 
batteries are not  holding a charge. I get about 3 to 4 miles. I use to go 8 
miles fine. I do not  think he knew his butt from a hole in the ground. All his 
answers were “Charge  it longer, needs 12 hours a day” I've been in a chair 
34 years, never charged  it 12 hours a day and I wet 13 miles one day. Just 
got new batteries 2 ½  months ago. He did no real testing other than an 
Amp? Meter. They will replace  the batteries, and hope its that. Hope its not 
the chair draining them for  some reason. I'd like to get it at least running 
good before I get a new one.  I'd like to keep it as my backup.
 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Chair Shop

[wheelchair]

Was he a truck driver or a certified mobility tech? There are some simple  
test that be performed with a multi-volt tester and a coiled load tester.   
Just make sure that your insurance carrier doesn't pay for an evaluation, 
using  a truck driver instead of a certified tech.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/1/2016 5:48:25 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

The chair  shop just sent a guy out to check my chair, to see why the 
batteries are not  holding a charge. I get about 3 to 4 miles. I use to go 8 
miles fine. I do not  think he knew his butt from a hole in the ground. All his 
answers were “Charge  it longer, needs 12 hours a day” I've been in a chair 
34 years, never charged  it 12 hours a day and I wet 13 miles one day. Just 
got new batteries 2 ½  months ago. He did no real testing other than an 
Amp? Meter. They will replace  the batteries, and hope its that. Hope its not 
the chair draining them for  some reason. I'd like to get it at least running 
good before I get a new one.  I'd like to keep it as my backup.
 
Greg

[QUAD-L] Concept Powered Wheelchair at Medtrade

[wheelchair]

Earlier this month, while at the Medtrade Show I had the experience of  
meeting Al Robinson who designed and built his Concept Chair, which he  calls  
Low & Go.  See for yourselves and I'm interested in  comments.
 
 
_www.lowandgo.org_ (http://www.lowandgo.org) .
 
 
Best Wishes