Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

I always solder the end of the cable and never use end caps. Stainless cable and galvanized cable require different fluxes and solder. I use the Park cutter on both cable and housing and grind the housing flat on the grinder (I used a file for years until I got the grinder). Laing On

[RBW] Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

Selling a bike can be daunting. First more details will help us determine the value pics please. I find taking really good pictures using even light really makes a difference. Plan on using a decent camera with a good lens borrow one if necessary. As much as I dislike eBay the site can be

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Fender recommendations

Get the SKS B65s. I have the P65s (for 26") on my Atlantis. They are great. I'm running 46 mm tires. Gobs of room. On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 6:18:07 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote: > > Hey all, > > I'm looking to get some fenders on my Atlantis. Here's the criteria: > > - 700c wheels > -

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

That's what I was going to say. The Jagwire Pro housing for both brake and shift cuts cleanly and squarely without all this side business. I use the Park tool and one cut, put on the ferrule and that's it. KJ On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:19:29 AM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > I've

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

I paid $1200 for a complete used Saluki a couple years ago. It was in flawless condition. Someone has been trying to sell one on the Bay Area Craigslist off and on for a year or so at $2400 and does not appear to have gotten any takers. Depending on condition and the parts you are including,

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

I have the Shimano one for cutting and assorted files to finish the ends if required. Also an wee ol' cool tool that I think is for shoe cobblers that I use to open the cable end if it gets crimped. The wood handle is shaped like a little light bulb with a 4 inch steel pointer. -- You

[RBW] For sale- 2, 59cm Clems

Green Clem is sold. Thanks to all for your interest. Butternut is still available!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: New Clem L

Beautiful bike, Joe! Love the color. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] For sale- 2, 59cm Clems

Butternut is now sold. Thanks to everyone for their interest. Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

Doug, That is good information to have. Thank you for chiming in! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

Bill, my hunch is that it is that Grant and e-RICHIE came up with what they both agreed on would be a great bike. I can't imagine either of those individuals doing something they didn't believe in! Agreed on the international exposure, but I think they want local cash sale. That obviously limits

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

FWIW, a good fine file can sharpen up cable cutters. Use sparingly and know what you're doing (look at some knife/axe sharpening videos). Cable end caps, two methods I really like: silicone adhesive (Shoe Goo being one), dip cable end into glue tube so cable has a glob of glue, slide end cap

[RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

David: That must have been the first Redlands ride that you hosted. Looks very springtime with everything still green, and that hasn't happened for while until this year. Hope they are able to get that price. Does seem like something a collector would lust after. The things you find on

[RBW] Re: 200 miles on 10 bikes, an essentially pointless self-challenge

Glad to see the Hillborne is still an important part of your collection, Bill. I remember that you were considering selling it last year. I have the same model and size and your builds have informed and inspired my own. Now I better understand why I liked the Hillborne so much better than my

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 10:18:23 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I'll repeat my tip 'cause I think it got missed: Cutting the housing (Park > cutter) with a scrap piece of cable inside helps keep the end round. A > dental pick to finish it is still a good idea. What I've taken to

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

I use a pair of Channel Lock End-Cutting pliers (bought at Home Depot) for both cables and housing (and for a bunch of other non-bike stuff like wire fence mesh, pulling nails, etc.). I reshape the hole on the cut end of the housing with a small nail until the cable slides through freely. Not

Re: [RBW] Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

Ditto Joe's comment about inserting some old cable scrap and then cutting housing. Push out old with the new you're inserting. Always results in perfectly clean cut, boom! PS: Those Shimano cutters are also really nice. Ours is way beyond old and still sharp as a tack! BEST / Jock Dewey /

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

A Dremel tool is a good investment and I'm always glad that I finally bought one. But I see Bill's point about the hassle of getting it out and setting it up etc. It depends on how you are set up to do shop work. I have a permanent shop and can leave the Dremel out and at the ready most of

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

An NOS Saluki/Hilsen is kind of an intriguing concept and I'm sure everyone here would like to see some pix, regardless of sale. I'm no expert, but given what you've said, I would take your cost for the frame and the parts that will be sold with it, and subtract maybe $400-500?? If it is

[RBW] Re: 200 miles on 10 bikes, an essentially pointless self-challenge

Introducing Bike #5, another very dear old friend, my Samuel Hillborne. This was my first Rivendell, and it marked a significant inflection point in my cycling career. I bought it in December 2009, and my cycling life could easily be separated into BH (Before Hillborne) and AH (After

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

Thanks, everyone. This is just the feedback I'm looking for. Now I'm getting excited to buy some tools! Cheers, Tim Portland, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

You all are fantastic! I didn't expect to have so many responses so quickly. I really appreciate all of your feedback. Many, many thanks to you all. As for more details... It is a small frame, so I am aware that there doesn't seem to be quite the market for those sizes (47cm to be exact). The

[RBW] OT: Gofundme - Pro-Bono Immigration Attorneys

Hi All, This is something my wife is heading up and I believe in it too. Not trying to make this a politicial conversation. MODS - if this is too far off topic please feel free to shut this down. I would completely understand. Here details and link: Donate to send a group of pro-bono

[RBW] Re: Lovell Gulch through Summer Photos

You live in a little slice of heaven! Thank you for sharing those lovely photos Patrick. On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 4:36:08 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Pictorial essay of my staple ride this summer. Lovell Gulch is the closest > single track (tied with Edlow Road, but that

[RBW] Too cool article on The CABE - The Flying Merkel

https://thecabe.com/forum/pages/the_flying_merkel_bicycle/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

That's really pretty in red. I'd recommend taking a straight-line toptube measurement (not the actual slope) from seattube through headtube to get a reach number. A smaller person (maybe a bit shorter than I at 5'-7") might be able to run it with drop bars. -- You received this message

[RBW] Lovell Gulch through Summer Photos

Pictorial essay of my staple ride this summer. Lovell Gulch is the closest single track (tied with Edlow Road, but that requires riding, rather than just crossing, Highway 24 so I do it far less). Enjoy! http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/lovell-gulch-through-summer With abandon, Patrick

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 7:59:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Next question: what do y'all use to crimp cable ends on the ends of > cables? > Regular wire cutters do pretty well if you're careful; I have a pair of old (and somewhat dull) cutters that I use for zipties, cord, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

I am unfamiliar with the Jagwire pro housing cutter. It won't crush diagonal wound brake housing?  As far as cable caps, I use small diameter copper tubing that I bought at a hobby shop. (I cut a 2" length of brake and sis cable wire and took them into the store to try the fit). To me, copper

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

Jagwire Pro is the housing, the Park Tool CN-10 is the cutter. After using compressionless brake housing, I will never go back to the traditional spiral stuff. KJ On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 12:30:36 PM UTC-4, Clayton wrote: > > I am unfamiliar with the Jagwire pro housing cutter. It

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

Patrick, Have you considered gluing the cable end caps in place? It can work well. I just crimp, normally with really blunt wire cutters, because I haven't yet found a glue that stays fluid in the bottle when left unused. But, with the right technique, one can glue the end caps in place and be

[RBW] Re: OT: Gofundme - Pro-Bono Immigration Attorneys

Thanks for sharing, Clayton! On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 1:21:00 PM UTC-7, Clayton.sf wrote: > > Hi All, > > This is something my wife is heading up and I believe in it too. Not > trying to make this a politicial conversation. > > MODS - if this is too far off topic please feel free to

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

KJ "What is this magical stuff, 'Jag Wire compressionless brake housing??'" OMG!  Thanks so much KJ!  I didn't know it existed. I have wondered why no one made it, but I obviously didn't look hard enough. Now that I do, I will never go back either.   Guess I will retire my diagonal cutters now. 

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

Group: Were Saluki dimensions ever published? G.E. That paint job is beautiful. Check the lower left stay for a painter's decal. If it says "JB" make sure to include that detail. dougP On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 1:35:19 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > That's really pretty in red.

[RBW] PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/richard-sachs-built-custom/6238145416.html Thought it would be interesting for the group to see this! Ride Safely, Beaverton Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

All things considered, this one could be considered a collector's item. Hopefully someone will jump on it & ride it. dougP On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 2:39:20 PM UTC-7, Beaverton Bob wrote: > > > https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/richard-sachs-built-custom/6238145416.html > >

Re: [RBW] Re: 200 miles on 10 bikes, an essentially pointless self-challenge

Bill, thanks for your informative and enjoyable postings about your six week long "adventure ride". Couldn't agree with you more about the Hillborne. It would be a nearly impossible decision if I ever had to part with the Sam or my Atlantis. Envious that you have the canti Sam! Best wishes for

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

On 08/09/2017 06:09 PM, dougP wrote: Group: Were Saluki dimensions ever published? You mean, like this? SALUKI GEOMETRY, TIRE CAPACITY, BRAKE SPECS *BB DROP *mm *TT UPSLOPE *degrees *Rear Hub Space *mm *APPROX. Standover at mid TT*** * *cm

[RBW] Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

That is rad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

110 gear inches is plenty for most people. Jan is a stronger rider than 99% of people, and he claims he has never been dropped on a descent due to not having a high enough gear, and his top gear is 90 gear inches. 48x14. By my reckoning you lost nothing by losing your 123 inch gear. You

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

Keith: Somehow I doubt you'll miss the top gear. Given the 500% spread on the cassette, I'd be tempted toward an even smaller chainring, but that's from an old guy who has been known to push his bike up hills. Be interesting to hear about the longevity of the chain. dougP On Wednesday,

[RBW] New Clem L

Got it yesterday, did a few miles shakedown/adjust-stuff ride today. To steal Velouria's blog name, what a lovely bike! It has the magical smooth-but-maneuverable Riv ride, and boy is that low toptube nice at when hopping on and off. After years of enjoying the low stepover of folding bikes, I

[RBW] Re: FS: 56 Hillborne, $1350 (w/photos)

Sending PM. I think I am a yes and in PDX. On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:56:55 AM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote: > The bike was built by Rivendell for a friend of mine (who purchased for his > father). I'm the second owner. It has not seen much use and is in excellent > condition. A beauty.

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

There is some luck involved in finding the right buyer. That being the case, it's way easier to luck into finding the right buyer if your bike is in the Medium size range. If it's a 47cm or a 73cm it may take longer to find the person you need. BL in EC On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at

[RBW] FS: 56 Hillborne, $1350 (w/photos)

The bike was built by Rivendell for a friend of mine (who purchased for his father). I'm the second owner. It has not seen much use and is in excellent condition. A beauty. And it rides wonderfully. I'm only selling because of space limitations, and while my Jones bike won't work as well for

[RBW] New Clem L

Great looking bike. I had decided to get one of the 64 Ls when they come in, but I now I've let the idea go. I've got all the racks and things I need to press my Joe into hauling and commuting service. Maybe a Clem when my ship comes in. Enjoy yours. It looks just fabulous. Jay -- You

[RBW] Re: Saluki Links

Too bad that the Bleriot project did not work out. A lot more folks would be really enjoying cycling if it did. On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 11:44:13 AM UTC-4, rob markwardt wrote: > Here's the country bike article. > > On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 8:41:23 AM UTC-7, rob markwardt wrote:

[RBW] Marks Rack Platform

Use a small steel bbq grill grate for a nice platform. Doubles for bbq grill once at the bike camp. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwHqG1q8uHdcSzRRMW41U1hpUG8 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

I've been tempted to put the Eagle groupset on my Jones, but lately I've spent all my money on Rivs. The new Eagle GX will be in out in the fall, I think. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: Lovell Gulch through Summer Photos

Fantastic shots. Looks like a great ride. jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

That's quite a find. Remember those cheap Dia-Compe sidepulls Riv used to sell? They were in the catalogue almost from the beginning, and was one of Grant's first stabs at putting a low-end part on an expensive frame because it worked and who cares. I'll bet they stop just as poorly now as they

[RBW] New Clem L

Very nice Joe! Enjoy your new ride -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

I guess stating the obvious here but no matter how special the bike is, if it doesn't fit well it's just not going to be loved -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

If that was a 59 or 60, 58tt, I would be all over this bike. What a combo. Sachs and Grant! On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 2:39:20 PM UTC-7, Beaverton Bob wrote: > > > https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/richard-sachs-built-custom/6238145416.html > > Thought it would be

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

GE Based on the small 47cm frame. your best audience would be WOMEN riders. There will be a higher proportion of women since they are generally smaller. RBW geometry charts show the PBH range of 63 to 64 cm for a AHH 47cm frame. the red is a very nice color, especially with the white HT

[RBW] New Clem L

Nice ride! If you don't mind me asking, how tall are you? Also, that's the 52, right? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

Joe: I can run it with drop bars and I'm almost 5'4". Of course, I have a fairly short stem on it too. I have proportions more like a guy though... meaning even though I'm not horribly tall, I have shorter legs and a longer torso. I decided to put the albatross on it because I was using it

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

I sold my dad's Saluki a few years ago, it was somewhere in the 57-58cm size range. It was used but nice and built up in a not particularly Riv'ish manner. It sold quickly at $1400 IIRC, I probably could have gotten at least a bit more but I didn't want the sale to take forever. Doug On Wed,

[RBW] New Clem L

It's a 52 (sorry, I thought I mentioned that). I'm 5'-7", pbh roundabout (I don't think my measurement is super accurate) 790. The seatpost showing here is with Silver 173mm cranks..would be higher with my normal 170s. The virtual toptube is about 60cm and it's STILL too short with those crazy

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

The paint is probably from D near RBW. He usually does the custom colors on Riv production frames, and is insanely good at it. I'm sure folks who charge a lot more for custom paint want to strangle him ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

Doug, That's my friend Bryn's bike! You rode with her and Arlo at least once: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4469017732/ Here's a photo to show how fast she can go on it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4469041906/ The frame was made in the transitional years after Joe

[RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

I've seen e-richie's geo on his personal CX and it is a near duplicate of my bikes with the 54.5 or so top tube. What is really interesting is how he derives his frame geo - by front center and reach, everything else falls into place whatever it may be. Did he and Grant coincide on the geo

[RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

Petro dollars still exist? (hey, I worked for Chevron and my retirement is tied to petro). However, there are some Japanese and Taiwanese riders that would love a bike like this! If he wants international interest, it should be posted on eBay with Paypal only payment to cover any hijinks.

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

Joe B, I'm 5-7 with 29 PBH and ride 54 or even 55 depending on top tube (54-54.5) I would say someone riding a 47 would be 5-1 to 5-3, since several women I ride with are that size and frame fit. YMMV. Cheers, Bill in Roswell, GA On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 4:35:19 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

If it's the 47cm frame that was on the Riv site for ages, price towards the low end. It won't be easy to sell that size. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: 59 vs. 52 Clem L

The more substantial changes in the Clems are the now-straight seat stays and the smaller seat tube. The originals also had the "speed-blend nipples." A little surprised it comes with 9-speed. I just could not get the SunRace shifters to work for me, switched them out for stem shifters. Enjoy

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

I've found just recently that the nicer comlressionless housing from Yokozuna and Jagwire doesn't end up with tha mangled end to the same degree that older housing did. It just takes a quick squeeze and it's back to being perfectly rounded. -Justin -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

G.E.: Remove the parts that you intend to keep and post photos as you would sell it. Size & color should be in the header. The more detail in the parts listing the better; i.e. "Sugino XD-2 crankset w/ 24-36-46 rings" instead of "Sugino cranks". Answer as many questions as you can

[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

> I never use housing cutters to cut cables. Housing cutters are made to > cut SIS housing only. I use a decent quality one I bought at a bike shop. > For brake housing, I use diagonal cutters (dikes, side cutter). I take the > diagonal cutters and make little cuts all the way around the

[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

The the market will dictate the price. Throw out a WAG on what you want for the bike and see if another party is willing to pay it. If no one is buying this will tell you to lower the price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

Clayton: can you recommend a pair of dikes? I've always used Park housing/cable cutters (it's a combined tool, meant to cut both) to cut standard housing, and while it does alright, I always have to finish the housing with a file or grinder. Will the dikes cut housing more cleanly? I will have to