Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Tech Support

2024-05-31 Thread Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches
This is a follow up. There is good news for a change! Outback tech support is back and warranties will be honored. I spoke with Anthony this morning, who has been with Outback a long time and knows his stuff. Currently, warranties are being handled through Enersys, and the process of

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Tech Support

2024-05-27 Thread Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches
Okay I did. Below is my posting. Is Outback tech support coming back under the new management? I would recommend reviving it and hiring back the people who really know the equipment, especially Lones Tuss. Will Outback honor the warranties of equipment now in the field? I recommend that

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Tech Support

2024-05-24 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
Jay, maybe the price was right? Obvious the old parent corporation wanted into commercial solar. As for EG4 maybe the old lawyer shark saying about eat or be eaten. It was about 5 years back that Schneider sold all commercial solar and it helped their stock. Crossing fingers! Happy hour soon!

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Tech Support

2024-05-24 Thread jay via RE-wrenches
Hi Drake, What it says to me is that they either fired everyone or said move to tx. I’ve always joked that if the potential project I’m to work on starts badly it never gets better. I still don’t understand why the owners of EG4 would by a legacy inverter company? Jay > On May 24, 2024,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Tech Support

2024-05-24 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
Marshall Neipert [3]Forum MemberPosts: 11 [4]Joined: Mon May 20, 2024 10:07 amMy RE system: President of Outback Power https://www.linkedin.com/in/neipertContact: Contact Marshall Neipert [5] You should ask him Drake! He is on the forum and responding to some emails. Here is in a link that he

[RE-wrenches] Outback Tech Support

2024-05-24 Thread Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches
Hello All, With the sale of Outback, their tech support seems to have disappeared. Around the time of the sale, tech support had agreed to send me a new control stack for a Radian. After a long delay, they did send it, but were quick to remind me to return the core. When the new control

[RE-wrenches] Outback

2024-05-21 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
I was talking to signature solar today. Signature solar and EG4 are sister companies. I don’t have info if one owns the other or if they are equal partners? They did admit they bought OB. But didn’t know if signature or EG4 bought them. Jay ___

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback:

2024-05-20 Thread Jeff Clearwater via RE-wrenches
Here is the official word from the new president of Outback Power just now posted on the Outback Forum: Hello Outback Community, My name is Marshall Neipert, the new president of Outback Power. As some of you may have heard, Outback Power has recently been purchased from EnerSys in a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback:

2024-05-20 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
Interesting that Commerce, TX is 20 miles from Sulphur Springs, TX which is the home of Signature Solar. https://www.outbackpower.com/resources/ ... rt-request [4] Shows: 404 Page Not Found Component not found [5] The moderators (not Outback employees) on the forum have an interesting

[RE-wrenches] Outback:

2024-05-20 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
Friends: Optics is still down as of Monday morning. Outback does not answer telephone calls. Options on their automated attendant are Tech Support and Sales. Either selection directs you to sales but no one picks up. I left several messages. I called Zonna Energy to ask. They told me

Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack inverter repair.

2024-04-17 Thread Matt Sherald via RE-wrenches
Hi Dave, I sent an out-of-warranty GVFX to Outback late last year. I'd personally replaced all three boards and still no joy. The repair cost was reasonable ~$450, but UPS was a steep way to ship it. -Matt On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:59 AM David Palumbo via RE-wrenches <

Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack inverter repair.

2024-04-17 Thread Kirpal Khalsa via RE-wrenches
Zonna Energy On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 7:58 AM David Palumbo via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Wrenches, > > Any up-to-date recommendations for repair of OutBack Inverters. Preferably > eastern U.S. if possible. > > Thanks, > Dave Palumbo > Hyde Park, VT > 802 371-8678

[RE-wrenches] OutBack inverter repair.

2024-04-17 Thread David Palumbo via RE-wrenches
Wrenches, Any up-to-date recommendations for repair of OutBack Inverters. Preferably eastern U.S. if possible. Thanks, Dave Palumbo Hyde Park, VT 802 371-8678 voice or text ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Optics RE and Starlink

2024-04-05 Thread Dan Fink via RE-wrenches
5 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 >> >> 805-438-5600 >> >> www.millersolar.com >> >> CA Lic. 773985 >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Dan Fink via RE-wrench

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Optics RE and Starlink

2024-04-05 Thread Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches
CA 93422 > > 805-438-5600 > > www.millersolar.com > > CA Lic. 773985 > > > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On > Behalf Of *Dan Fink via RE-wrenches > *Sent:* Friday, April 5, 2024 12:07 PM > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Cc:*

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Optics RE and Starlink

2024-04-05 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
*Sent:* Friday, April 5, 2024 12:07 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Cc:* Dan Fink *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Outback Optics RE and Starlink Esteemed Wrenches - One of my Optics sites started acting up last summer, randomly dropping its connection, and requiring a manual Mate reboot (unplug Mate connection

[RE-wrenches] Outback Optics RE and Starlink

2024-04-05 Thread Dan Fink via RE-wrenches
Esteemed Wrenches - One of my Optics sites started acting up last summer, randomly dropping its connection, and requiring a manual Mate reboot (unplug Mate connection to Hub, wait 30 seconds and replug - but a 4-hour drive), after which the Mate3S would be back online in under a minute. It was set

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Board Repair

2024-02-22 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
] *On Behalf Of *John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2024 5:46 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Cc:* John Blittersdorf *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Board Repair I just tried to get Outback tech support and the message was if the product is under warranty, stay on the line

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Board Repair

2024-02-22 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Hi JohnThe work around is to make sure you e got a new enough serial number to at least talk to them about what ever the issue is. But this is a huge new development in a bad way.JayOn Feb 22, 2024, at 6:55 AM, John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches wrote:I just tried to get Outback tech support and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Board Repair

2024-02-22 Thread John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches
I just tried to get Outback tech support and the message was if the product is under warranty, stay on the line for next available rep. If not warranty. contact Zonna Energy or NAZ Solar ! On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 10:14 PM Bradley Bassett via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Board Repair

2024-02-21 Thread Bradley Bassett via RE-wrenches
Regarding AEE and off grid support, I'm not really in touch with them much any more so I can't say. You could ask Glenn Hall, he'd be able to say if he's heard anything about hiring a new tech. Of course finding someone with much off grid experience would be hard. Glenn and Alex do have some

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Board Repair

2024-02-21 Thread Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches
Zonna is a dependable resource. I often find they have more repair boards and parts in their inventory than Outback does themselves. Whether the older legacy boards or newer VFXR series, Zonna has them. I think of them as the off grid distributor solution provider that AEE used to be known for.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Board Repair

2024-02-21 Thread Wallace Stahle via RE-wrenches
Zonna Energy is one option. Thats zone-ah I sent them a faulty radian stack after they sent me a repaired one. 330-674-1750. Ask for Amos or Ext. 2. zonnaenergy.com > On Feb 21, 2024, at 11:00 AM, Matt Sherald via RE-wrenches > wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm looking to move along some

[RE-wrenches] Outback Board Repair

2024-02-21 Thread Matt Sherald via RE-wrenches
Hi All, I'm looking to move along some damaged Outback (GVFX and VFX) boards. I found an older thread referencing Kris Stone, but didn't have luck with the email. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Matt Sherald PIMBY Energy, LLC 304-704-5943

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-27 Thread jay via RE-wrenches
What I don’t understand is that the inverter was limiting amps while the generator was not. If the generator wasn’t able to produce the power, then it would have had the usual issues which causes the inverter to drop it and then reconnect. But that wasn’t happening so it appears the generator

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-27 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
You have had many good suggestions but note you are on border line power, at 2200 teet your power is down 10% note gen's are 80% of name plate, and you are asking for 7.2 kW from a Genny that with atmospheric correction is 7.2 kW On Fri, Oct 27, 2023, 8:27 AM Amos Post via RE-wrenches <

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging: Support mode

2023-10-27 Thread Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches
Can anyone explain why changing to Support mode on the generator input boosts battery charging amps? The Radian manual explanation for Support mode gives no clue about this "fix". It only states that Support mode will allow batteries to provide extra power to loads if demand exceeds max. gen

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-27 Thread Amos Post via RE-wrenches
Hi all, Changing the Gen Input mode to Support did the trick! Thanks for the advice! Amos Post Integrity Energy W 802.763.7023 C 802.291.2188 ienergyVT.com Facebook > On Oct 26, 2023,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-26 Thread Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging What is the charger ac limit set to? Jay On Oct 25, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches wrote:  Hi Amos, What input mode are you using? Try switching to "support" mode and see if the charging current increases.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-25 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
lto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Amos Post via RE-wrenches *Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2023 12:23 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Cc:* Amos Post *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging Hello wrenches, We just installed an GS8048a Radian build with Mate 3SL cont

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-25 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
-wrenches Date: 10/25/23 4:43 PM (GMT-05:00) To: RE-wrenches Cc: Jay Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging What is the charger ac limit set to?JayOn Oct 25, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches wrote:Hi Amos,What input mode are you using?Try switching to "support&

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-25 Thread integrityenergy101 via RE-wrenches
will try switching to Support mode and see if that helps.  By the way batteries are 8- Simpliphi 3.8.    Sent from my Galaxy Original message From: Jay via RE-wrenches Date: 10/25/23 4:43 PM (GMT-05:00) To: RE-wrenches Cc: Jay Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-25 Thread integrityenergy101 via RE-wrenches
PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'RE-wrenches' Cc: d...@solarwork.com Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging 2200’ EL should not influence the generator, seems the first 4500-5000’ are covered like sealevel. How old is gen?Have you been into the settings menu as well as the Wizard?I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-25 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
What is the charger ac limit set to?JayOn Oct 25, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches wrote:Hi Amos,What input mode are you using?Try switching to "support" mode and see if the charging current increases. On Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 1:24 PM Amos Post via RE-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-25 Thread Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches
Hi Amos, What input mode are you using? Try switching to "support" mode and see if the charging current increases. On Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 1:24 PM Amos Post via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hello wrenches, > > We just installed an GS8048a Radian build with Mate 3SL

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-25 Thread Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches
2200' EL should not influence the generator, seems the first 4500-5000' are covered like sealevel. How old is gen? Have you been into the settings menu as well as the Wizard? I have found settings in one and not the other that definitely effect the overall parameters. A call to OB might

[RE-wrenches] Outback Radian Generator Charging

2023-10-25 Thread Amos Post via RE-wrenches
Hello wrenches, We just installed an GS8048a Radian build with Mate 3SL controller (no Optics). We are having some with charging from the generator, as the generator charging seems to be limited to about 4500Watts +/- (20amps AC) when charging through the Radian. It is a Kohler 8.5RES

[RE-wrenches] Outback GLC Bypass slider plate

2023-08-01 Thread Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches
Oh wise guys, I am looking for (1) Outback GSLC bypass slider plate to allow 2 generators to separately feed an OB GSLC. I will be using a 30 amp 2 pole breaker VS the 60 amp that come in the IO kit from outback. Please contact me off list -- Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc. C -

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback lithium LVD

2023-07-20 Thread Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches
Jay I don't seem to have an issue set the inverter to shut down befor the battery and the CCwill begin to charge again untill voltage rises enough to start the inverter back up. Also set the genny to come on even above the inverter voltage so a shut down does not even accure. If you use lithium

[RE-wrenches] Outback lithium LVD

2023-07-20 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
I apologize in advance if this is a duplicate. I was contemplating the discussion about how to deal with an inverter that doesnt have the correct LBCO for a lithium LVD voltage. A suggested option for OB was to install a relay triggered by the AUX and controlling the inverter remote on/off

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Mate3SL = no web monitor due to a chip shortage

2023-07-12 Thread Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches
Just ordered one so I’m quite certain they are starting to be available again. That’s what I believe to be the case with Zonna anyway. Additionally, I was told by an Outback technician a couple months ago that once the supply chain issues are dealt with they will upgrade any of the Lite

[RE-wrenches] Outback Mate3SL = no web monitor due to a chip shortage

2023-07-12 Thread Mick Abraham via RE-wrenches
Hi, Mechanix~ Is the Mate3S in short supply for mid to late 2023? I see there's a "Lite" version with no internet capability--but are enough projects buying the Lite so those who want the full version can still get it from inventory? Thanks in advance; the Wrench List is the Bomb! Mick Abraham,

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback FM-100

2023-01-19 Thread Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches
nches > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2023 11:28 AM > To: 'RE-wrenches' > Cc: scot.a...@solarcentex.com > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] outback FM-100 > > Hate to ask but are these long lead like SMA and Fronius have become? If > shortage, is this some sign that charge controllers

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback FM-100

2023-01-17 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
. 773985 -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Scot Arey via RE-wrenches Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2023 11:28 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Cc: scot.a...@solarcentex.com Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] outback FM-100 Hate to ask

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback FM-100

2023-01-17 Thread Scot Arey via RE-wrenches
: Tuesday, January 17, 2023 11:53 AM To: RE-wrenches Cc: jay Subject: [RE-wrenches] outback FM-100 HI All, Does anyone have any updated info about when the FM-100 and Mate3S will be available? thx jay ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional

[RE-wrenches] outback FM-100

2023-01-17 Thread jay via RE-wrenches
HI All, Does anyone have any updated info about when the FM-100 and Mate3S will be available? thx jay ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback vfx 3648 question

2023-01-04 Thread Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches
Hey Jay. The AC input Amps should be the "Total" Amperage the inverter uses for pass-thru and charging. Having the AC In at five and the Charger at five may be what is causing the pulsing. Something else to consider the charging output of the inverter is not monitored very closely so there is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback vfx 3648 question

2023-01-04 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Hi john Good to hear from you. Your system charges at above Outback programmed amp setpoints? And in a sort of cyclical way? Sometimes it’s normal for an hour then will go to 2x charge rate then back down then maybe 1.5. I talked to a senior Outback tech and they haven’t heard of this

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback vfx 3648 question

2023-01-03 Thread John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches
Jay, I have seen this a few times but usually with a generator that is not designed for hard wired system. I have a Ryobi work generator that does this on both of my outback systems. It says in the instructions that it is not to be used for stationary applications (ie normally grounded

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback vfx 3648 question

2023-01-03 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Hi JerryThere is no battery temp sensor. Lithium battery. ThxJayOn Jan 3, 2023, at 9:11 AM, Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches wrote:Wrenches, Jay You may want to remove the battery temp sensor and see what it does, an open/short in the sensor will send it all over to compensate for the range issue,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback vfx 3648 question

2023-01-03 Thread Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches
Wrenches, Jay You may want to remove the battery temp sensor and see what it does, an open/short in the sensor will send it all over to compensate for the range issue, the issue may also be in the temp compensation board inside the inverter. Jerry On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 6:16 AM Jay via

[RE-wrenches] Outback vfx 3648 question

2023-01-03 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Has anyone had a vfx sort of not pay attention to it charging current settings, I have a customer who’s older vfx will do the following Settings are 5 amps ac, 5 amp ac charge It’ll run at about 10 amps dc charging Then randomly go up to 30 amps dc then back down. Maybe 15 seconds Later go

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback with a 48V Lithium battery

2022-10-19 Thread Tuss, Lones via RE-wrenches
Hi Dave No direct communication as of yet. Sorry From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 4:46 PM To: RE-wrenches Cc: Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback with a 48V Lithium battery CAUTION

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback with a 48V Lithium battery

2022-10-18 Thread frenergy via RE-wrenches
Hi Wayne,             We've done about a dozen Outback systems with SimpliPhi  batteries.  SimpliPhi has integration guides with well thought out  and complete settings to program OB Inverters and CC's the play properly with SimpliPhi batteries (24 and 48 volt). Straight-forward stuff.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback with a 48V Lithium battery

2022-10-18 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
win via RE-wrenches Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 12:27 PM To: Wrenches Cc: pureenergyso...@hotmail.com Subject: [RE-wrenches] Outback with a 48V Lithium battery CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Company. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback with a 48V Lithium battery

2022-10-18 Thread Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches
Yes, many Radian systems with Discover AES and Helios using the Lynk II gateway. Lynk II takes care of AGS and activating heat pads. On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 12:27 PM Wayne Irwin via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hello All, > > Has anyone successfully coupled Outback

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback with a 48V Lithium battery

2022-10-18 Thread Tuss, Lones via RE-wrenches
PM To: Wrenches Cc: pureenergyso...@hotmail.com Subject: [RE-wrenches] Outback with a 48V Lithium battery CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Company. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hello All, Has anyone

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback with a 48V Lithium battery

2022-10-18 Thread Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches
I’ve successfully paired a few different lithium brands with both Radian and FX. Outback has a white paper to get you started. Here’s a PDF that points to the different lithium brands. I’ve successfully paired other non-white listed lithium batteries following the same guideline.

[RE-wrenches] Outback with a 48V Lithium battery

2022-10-18 Thread Wayne Irwin via RE-wrenches
Hello All, Has anyone successfully coupled Outback with a 48V Lithium battery? We have only ever used Rolls FLA's. While we've "successfully" installed Enphase (tedious), we prefer Outback's VFXR series for a variety of reasons including commissioning and redundancy. Any experience/input on

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback FXR: Battery voltage exceeds settings

2022-07-23 Thread Nicholas Welch via RE-wrenches
Is there an FNDC on this system? I’ve experienced some of the same issues when the FNDC terminations were loose. On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 11:56 AM Jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Outback controllers have a tendency to be a bit slow. > > So they can definitely get

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback FXR: Battery voltage exceeds settings

2022-07-23 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Outback controllers have a tendency to be a bit slow. So they can definitely get higher than the set points but only for a second or two which is not going do damage anything. I’ve seen them do this. Especially if it’s a larger array, sealed batteries and when the batteries are full and a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback FXR: Battery voltage exceeds settings

2022-07-23 Thread Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches
Most AGM's don't like voltage that high and it swells the battery and destroys its storage capability alot of the time Jerry On Fri, Jul 22, 2022, 7:50 PM Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > William, > > If the battery cases swelled, they saw over 52

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback FXR: Battery voltage exceeds settings

2022-07-22 Thread Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches
William, If the battery cases swelled, they saw over 52 degrees C temps for quite some time. While the swelling is usually only cosmetic, what's happening inside is the negative plates are starting to burn. This is where you will start to lose capacity and life cycle... Extended temps of just

[RE-wrenches] Outback FXR: Battery voltage exceeds settings

2022-07-22 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
Friends: I maintain a system with 16 AGM L-16 batteries. Eight were installed in September of 2021 and 8 were added in March of 2022. This is 5 months apart. I have understood that when you install a string of batteries you have one year in which to add another string before the first string

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian transfer time

2022-02-04 Thread jay
HI Eric, Check that the transfer delay is as short as it can go, about 6 cycles You might raise the lower voltage limit from 108 Check to make sure all the voltage readings on each inverter are as close as possible. A real weakness of the OB platform is that you have to calibrate each item:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian transfer time

2022-02-04 Thread Howie Michaelson
Not sure about the radians (I've rarely used them) but with the VFX series, that symptom can sometimes be avoided by programming a cool down period so that the inverters drop the generator while it is still running at full speed. Alternatively, by narrowing the generator voltage window at the

[RE-wrenches] Outback Radian transfer time

2022-02-04 Thread Eric Smiley
I have an off grid system with three GS8048A inverters. Every time it switches from generator charging to inverting - at the end of absorption - the lights flicker and a propane boiler in the house goes into fault. I'm using Advanced AGS on the Mate3S. The loads don't exceed about 6 kW right now.

[RE-wrenches] Outback Charge controller breakers (was Mixing Outback FM100 CC with Fm80 or 60.)

2022-01-25 Thread William Miller
Colleagues: Lones, thanks for being in the hot-seat on this and many other Outback related issues. I need to remind myself that I do not know what engineers and product managers have to go through to get products listed and comply with all of the attendant regulations. So when some

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Mate 3s AGS problems

2022-01-08 Thread Jay
Hi Dan As it works with a manual start, I have to ask about the ags settings. All start parameters that you want to use need to be manually enabled: volts ( 24, 2hr, 2 min) load ( start/stop kW) and SOC. Is the quiet time enabled? If so is the date and time been updated to correct local

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Mate 3s AGS problems

2022-01-07 Thread Dan Fink
That was a quick solve, thanks Wrench Dan at Foxfire + Lones at Outback who called me after 5PM on a Friday evening. For future search indexing reference on this list (which I do a LOT): Inverter 12VDC output controlling AGS MUST be on Port 1 on the Outback Hub. Problem solved. Dan Fink Buckville

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Mate 3s AGS problems

2022-01-07 Thread Foxfire Energy
Seems I was once advised to drive the AGS goodies from the Master (P1). Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 7, 2022, at 5:02 PM, Dan Fink wrote: > >  > Wrenches; Having a frustrating problem here with a Mate 3s and 2-wire AGS. > The generator starts and stops fine from the Mate 3 AND via Optics RE

[RE-wrenches] Outback Mate 3s AGS problems

2022-01-07 Thread Dan Fink
Wrenches; Having a frustrating problem here with a Mate 3s and 2-wire AGS. The generator starts and stops fine from the Mate 3 AND via Optics RE from my smartphone, but will not autostart by either SOC or Voltage. It is wired to use the inverter (VFXR 3524A) 12vdc aux output to an Outback relay

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback MX-60 - Li-ion charging

2021-12-01 Thread larrycrutcher
Steve reminded me of something, probably because it is not very common. If you are recharging at 1C or greater rates, the Absorb cycle will need to be longer if you want to return all energy to the battery. Example: For a 300AH battery, 1C would be 300 Amps or over 16kW for a 48V bank. Since

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback MX-60 - Li-ion charging

2021-12-01 Thread larrycrutcher
boB, Yes, the Absorb timer in the FM and MX determine maximum CV time. From FM manual: While the batteries are held at this voltage, the ChgT counter in the Misc menu counts up from zero toward the user-defined Absorb Time Limit. (See pages 44 and 49.) The charger will exit this stage and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback MX-60 - Li-ion charging

2021-12-01 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Thanks Larry. The information to stop when absorb voltage was reached is like, 10 or more years old and so I don't know if that voltage reach and stop charging algorithm is still used by any BMS's. This is probably why we had to add a logic input to tell the controller to stop charging

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback MX-60 - Li-ion charging

2021-12-01 Thread larrycrutcher
If you stop charging a Li-ion battery when the CV (absorb voltage) is reached, you may reduce or stop the needed cell balancing time. We have had customers develop unbalanced series cells from continuous undercharging. Because of internal cell resistance, one cell will always reach saturation

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback MX-60

2021-12-01 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Depends on the requirement for the BMS. Usually, but not 100% always, the requirement is to get the voltage up to "absorb" and then stop charging. Just set the min and max  times very low, like 1 minute and that should satisfy that one. I do not remember if the MX60 had a Re-Bulk 

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback MX-60

2021-12-01 Thread frenergy
boB,             Interesting...Sounds like this is not a candidate for L-ion batteries. Bill On 11/30/2021 10:47 PM, b...@midnitesolar.com wrote: Hi Bill As I remember, the min is of course... Minimum time in Absorb. Max is maximum time in absorb but depended on how long it took to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback MX-60

2021-11-30 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Hi Bill As I remember, the min is of course... Minimum time in Absorb. Max is maximum time in absorb but depended on how long it took to get from Bulk MPPT to that Absorb voltage. So if it took 3 hours to get to Absorb that morning and you had t set for Max 2 hours,  it would Absorb

[RE-wrenches] Outback MX-60

2021-11-30 Thread frenergy
Yes, the old one, not the FM.  This oldie had an interesting way to set the absorption time. You would set the "min" time (in minutes) and you would set the "max" time (in hours, you have to set it to 1,2,3 or 4 hours).             I need to know if I set the "min" to 10 minutes and the "max"

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback skybox remote power off

2021-11-07 Thread Bradley Bassett
If you open terminals 4 and 12 it will turn off the Skybox, both PV input and AC as far as I know. Terminals 5 and 13 then will open on RSD to send a signal to whatever other devices need RSD. Brad On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 9:34 AM Kirk Herander wrote: > I just installed one of these in a

[RE-wrenches] outback skybox remote power off

2021-11-07 Thread Kirk Herander
I just installed one of these in a commercial building. I have a Solaredge inverter AC coupled through it. The AHJ wants me to install a first responder EPO switch outside to shut down the AC output of the inverter(which will totally kill all AC sources along with the normal AC utility/inverter

[RE-wrenches] outback grid tie low selling update

2021-07-20 Thread jay
The update is that indeed the inverter was set at 3.7 instead of the 18 amps that it should have been. jay peltz power ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Radian 8048 Main AC Breaker Trip with Generator

2021-07-20 Thread Maverick Brown
I would double check the new inverter’s wiring. Those extra neutral wiring points can be a trickster. From the Mate3 main status, press the Inverter Status soft key (3rd button from the left). The upper left status will indicate Selling, charging, etc. Press the Port button to cycle around

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-20 Thread Maverick Brown
Jay Even if you that sell limit setting is low, I’d drop the grid and load up the inverter a bit, and force bulk just to be sure the CC and PV are functioning correctly. You could even amp clamp the PV strings to make sure each string is correct. Good luck! Maverick Maverick Brown Off-Grid

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-20 Thread Jay
Hi Max, Ive thought about this, and have done forced bulk a few times with no change in output. One thing I haven’t done is to drain the batteries and see if the PV watts increase to fill them. Nobody has suggested the cc is somehow limiting due to a weird failure snd the settings are

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-19 Thread Mac Lewis
Hi Jay, I suspect the grid-tie sell function isn't quite working in the charge controllers (if all strings are working correctly). To test this, you can try to force a bulk charge with the charge controllers. The inverter should try to maintain the sell voltage and you should see the wattage of

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-19 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Jay, here are my guesses: 1) Customer is using all the power (3.5 is not a large array) 2) Per William Miller, the batteries are shot. 3) combination of 1 &2 4) Bulk voltage is too high, daily trying to go to bulk voltage drives the batteries to the grave. Float voltage is too high, acting as

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-19 Thread Jay
I’ve had someone from application engineering at Outback check the settings. All appear normal and correct. I’m going to be checking the deep setting on grid sell which is most likely the culprit. Thanks for all the advice and I’ll let you all know what find. Jay > On Jul 19, 2021, at

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-19 Thread Jerry Shafer
Jay In Optics RE Mate 3S verify that the firmware is 1.4.6 under global charge are all switches "disabled" in the GS AC Input "Grid", Charger "Off", "Grid Tie" set Offset enable "Yes" sell is up to you and battery manufacture Jerry On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 1:44 PM jay wrote: > HI All, > > I”m

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-19 Thread jay
HI Kirpal, This sure seems like a real possibility. I don’t know that there have been any firmware updates. I know its one REV behind, but tech support didn’t think that was an issue. As to the installer menu, does anyone know where I can find a map/menu of all the options? thx jay >

[RE-wrenches] Outback Radian 8048 Main AC Breaker Trip with Generator

2021-07-18 Thread Jon Siegenthaler
Hey folks, I went to investigate 3 Radian 8048A's that had the master inverter slowly die from salty air. The newest slave that was added to the existing system of 2 radians was programmed to be the master and the AGS was set to the new master as well. The corroded ex-master was replaced with a

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-18 Thread Kirpal
Hi Jay. We had a similar situation arise once after we updated the firmware of a 4048 radian. The inverter was a circa 2015 unit. After updating it would only sell about 1/4 of the normal array output to the grid. We talked to Chris at tech support and he had us go into the installer menu and

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-18 Thread Nick A Lucchese
Greetings Jay, How much does the house consume as a base load? I imagine if you remotely instruct your customer to open all the breakers on the standby load panel you’ll lose connectivity with Opticsre? When you go back and look at the history over the last four months does the behavior seem

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-18 Thread Jay
Hi William No that’s definitely not it. Production of a 3.5 kWh array is at max 1 kw, with about .8kw going to the grid Jay > On Jul 18, 2021, at 5:44 PM, William Miller wrote: > > Damaged batteries consuming power? > > William Miller > www.millersolar.com > >> On Jul 18, 2021, at 12:26

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-18 Thread William Miller
Damaged batteries consuming power? William Miller www.millersolar.com > On Jul 18, 2021, at 12:26 PM, jay wrote: > > HI All, > > I”m trying to diagnose the following system I didn’t install. > > 4 year old system grid tie battery back up. > > Radian 4048 > flexmax 80 > 3500 watts PV > fndc

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-18 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Hi Jay, I would not mind looking at it but there is not much PV ! I would put money on the people living there are using it all. Or clouds on the day you looked. One of the things I really like about Insight is it give me the site weather. I have not looked at optics in a few years and that

[RE-wrenches] outback grid tie help

2021-07-18 Thread jay
HI All, I”m trying to diagnose the following system I didn’t install. 4 year old system grid tie battery back up. Radian 4048 flexmax 80 3500 watts PV fndc it is on opticsRE The symptoms are that its not selling much at all. Mostly when it is about 1kw max PV production and .8kw selling. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack Inverters

2021-05-18 Thread John Blittersdorf
Dave, An Alternate solution might be to find two good used VFX3524's. All circuit boards are available from Zonna if they need repair. I have one if you could find another somewhere. Contact me off list if interested. John Blittersdorf NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ CV Wind Service

Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack Inverters

2021-05-17 Thread Mac Lewis
The "R" inverters have had a persistent issue that the list discussed recently. You get an error "inverter firmware mismatch". This results in losing a phase and then can be cleared by power cycling the Mate 3s and will work ok for a while and then repeat. The latest firmware for the Mate3s

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