Re: [silk] An anniversary

I can't tell for certain, but I think I joined in 1998. There was a lot of overlap between the Linux User Groups and silk at the time, so I came from that world. On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 7:06 AM Udhay Shankar N wrote: > The first message on silklist went out 23 years ago. > > There are some

Re: [silk] Questions, or answers?

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 9:20 AM Udhay Shankar N wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 08:24 Venkatesh H R wrote: > > > A recent learning of mine is to keep asking questions until I get the > right > > question through which to frame the problem at hand. So questions. > > > > As a parent of a former 2

Re: [silk] Libra

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 7:25 PM Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: [...] > Cui bono? https://www.ft.com/content/7f4c362e-9e73-11e9-b8ce-8b459ed04726 The fracturing of the global economic consensus A three-way tussle between free markets, state capitalism and the tech giants is brewing RANA FOROO

Re: [silk] Libra

On Fri, 21 Jun, 2019, 6:51 PM Peter Griffin, wrote: > What do you folks think of the Libra cyptocurrency? Cui bono? Regardless of the merits of the currency I see this as one more step in the inevitable shift in power from governments to corporations. Large corporations already dictate foreign

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 1:43 AM Charles Haynes wrote: > > The superficial layers like the bond markets or federal reserve are not > > stand alone, I see that they are ultimately inherited from military power. > > > > And I have pointed out that falls apart under analysis. No. Your analysis is

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

You seem to be taking a very literal approach, which I'm afraid misses much of the picture. Let me spell it out a little more. American exceptionalism including the centrality of the dollar is ultimately backed by the US military. The US has layers to its power, which is what makes it superior

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

On Sat, 1 Jun, 2019, 5:42 PM Charles Haynes, wrote: > Surely I don't have to point out that when Teddy Roosevelt was president > the USA was still on the gold standard, so his remarks are completely > irrelevant to modern currency markets. > That's irrelevant - big stick diplomacy has formed

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 1:13 AM Charles Haynes wrote: > The US Military has nothing to do with it. Surely I don't have to quote Teddy Roosevelt to you, "Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far."

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 7:30 AM Udhay Shankar N wrote: > > A follow up to the follow up (message left unedited below for context) > > https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dollar-powers-american-dominance-rivals-are-building-workarounds-11559155440 The US Dollar is backed by the might of the scariest

Re: [silk] Random thought of the day

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 7:00 PM Udhay Shankar N wrote: > > [...] > Silklist is a great place to ponder Warnock's Dilemma [1]. > > Discuss. It would have been something if there were no replies at all to this post. Alas, that moment has passed.

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 1:41 PM Deepa Agashe wrote: > On the other hand, where would any of us be without drug companies producing > antibiotics and painkillers? I am not anti-science - obviously a great many things are better off due to it, and I owe my own life to science but at the same time

Re: [silk] War on Science?

> It is what keeps for example homeopathy in business so .. It is the favorite whipping boy of pseudo science for the moment. Which reminds me of the water memory experiments done by another Nobel Laureate, Luc Montagnier. I don't think the science is quite settled there.

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 1:24 PM Deepa Agashe wrote: > > > Scientists are not the same as pharma companies. I don’t understand exactly > what would you like scientists to do. A couple of Southernisms come to mind, you can't waller with the pigs and not get dirty, or you can't sleep with the dogs

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 1:15 PM Deepa Agashe wrote: > Yes, it is. And a very useful one, actually. Indeed, yet medical systems that rely on it (in addition to other active agents) are dismissed as quackery, unless it is from a big drug company of course.

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 12:32 PM Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Known measurable failure rates > It's not the same as building a bridge that comes crashing down - the fundamental problem is understood in bridge building but due to human error these failures can occur. However in medicine the

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 12:22 PM Deepa Agashe wrote: > and the fact that vaccines fail in 1% (or some such small fraction) of > humans does not make this understanding unscientific. 1% of a 100 million children is 1 million. Even 0.1% is 100,000 kids that will definitely have an adverse

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 12:22 PM Deepa Agashe wrote: > As I see it, scientific understanding means that we have greater > repeatability than expected by chance- i.e. the signal to noise ratio is > high. So is the placebo effect science? It is greater than expected by chance, isn't it?

Re: [silk] War on Science?

Thanks to the many who wrote in to say that science is not the last word on reality, we now see that science can be wrong, is always only the partial truth, and the key is to be open to new ideas. If we see that all of us; scientists and non-scientists alike are in the business of understanding

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Sun, Feb 3, 2019, 9:37 AM Suresh Ramasubramanian > WHO has defined vaccine protocols that address your concern > "The politics of polio" by Dr. Pushpa Bhargava an eminent microbiologist who returned his Padma Bhushan in protest.

Re: [silk] War on Science?

he attention deficit generation we have become. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019, 10:36 PM Srini RamaKrishnan I don't think I'm qualified to make sense of all the medical literature, > but here's what is obvious to me. > > Science is fundamentally about healthy disagreement and debate over the >

Re: [silk] War on Science?

rs on science in india > https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/open-page/medicinebashing-is-too-much-with-us/article4728002.ece > Hegde is a fraud - no question about it > > > --srs > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 4:06 PM +0530, "Srini RamaKrishnan" wrote

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 4:05 PM Srini RamaKrishnan > https://www.moneylife.in/article/science-and-politics-of-vaccines/36886.html > > > > I thought you had done your research Suresh, so I didn't check earlier > I apologize, I'll retract that, I see comments by you in the article

Re: [silk] War on Science?

done your research Suresh, so I didn't check earlier. On Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 3:50 PM Srini RamaKrishnan On Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 1:32 PM Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > >> There is absolutely no open mind possible for vaccine deniers. And they >> cause far too much harm to be anyt

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 1:32 PM Suresh Ramasubramanian There is absolutely no open mind possible for vaccine deniers. And they > cause far too much harm to be anything other than dismissed outright. I am > sorry if we disagree on that matter. > Before you completely close your mind I'd like to know

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 1:00 PM Srini RamaKrishnan You've got to keep an open mind about these things, listen to his talks, he's astonishingly bright. I have to add that he's ethical and noble in his quest to find the truth, something I'd never accuse drug companies of. >

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019, 11:56 AM Suresh Ramasubramanian > BM Hegde is a full blown anti vaxxer Why is any credence at all > being paid to his claims? You've got to keep an open mind about these things, listen to his talks, he's astonishingly bright. I think the truth in these cases lies

Re: [silk] War on Science?

The respected medical journal Lancet is named after the knife used to lance boils - and this was the specific metaphor the journal founder intended to convey, to bring a modicum of scientific rigor to the work of medicine which he felt was a messy boil on the face of humanity, full of half truths

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:52 AM Vani Murarka wrote: > Deeply appreciative of the discussion going on here at present, the muck > in science and in religion being called out. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es5lfOeobAs I came across this excellent talk by Dr. Rustum Roy today. He's a

Re: [silk] it may not be well-done; is it becoming rare?

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 3:31 PM Deepa Agashe Perhaps I am paranoid, but I worry that a lot of interesting views will be > lost over time because nobody is bothering to expound on them. > Societal progress optimises for quantity, not quality. Though we can travel half way around the world in 20

Re: [silk] From 35 years ago, Asimov's predictions for 2019 (and anxperiment for this list)

Funny how most modern science fiction isn't so optimistic. After the dismal failure of flying cars to materialise by 2000, I think those in the prediction game have turned all doom and gloom of late. There are better odds for a perfect storm of global climate catastrophes to reset civilization to

Re: [silk] Steganography: This clever AI hid data from its creators to cheat at its appointed task

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 5:06 AM Charles Haynes >> That's orthogonal to the goal orientation of the learner > > I don't find it so. >

Re: [silk] Steganography: This clever AI hid data from its creators to cheat at its appointed task

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 5:06 AM Charles Haynes > That's orthogonal to the goal orientation of the learner. > > Learning can be free of an objective. That's the best kind IMO and > perfectly possible in AI. > I agree it's possible to learn without objective, but in a world of research funding where

Re: [silk] Steganography: This clever AI hid data from its creators to cheat at its appointed task

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 12:13 AM Charles Haynes > > Again, not true. Who is this "we" you're generalizing about? The people who > built AlphaZero did it for the learnings involved. Most of the people I > know in AI are not goal oriented but are instead trying to expand human > understanding. > Can

Re: [silk] Steganography: This clever AI hid data from its creators to cheat at its appointed task

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019, 9:59 PM Charles Haynes On Tue., 1 Jan. 2019, 1:11 am Srini RamaKrishnan > > Monkey see, monkey do. AI only learns from the behavior of humans > > > > This is not true. Specifically AlphaZero learns from the rules of the game, > and playing (randomly at

Re: [silk] Steganography: This clever AI hid data from its creators to cheat at its appointed task

Monkey see, monkey do. AI only learns from the behavior of humans, so if there's a problem with the way AI behaves, it cannot be solved unless the base consciousness of the human improves. When AI replaces lawyers, salesmen, bankers we'll have more ruthless versions. We already see this in high

Re: [silk] My thoughts on old age

Dear Deepa, I am young enough to be your son, so I cannot speak on old age, but I can speak a little on vulnerability. I know a little of - what it is to experience a chronic illness, be the sole care taker for old and infirm family members, experience a rapid deceleration in income and physical

Re: [silk] Organizing files/ folders on one's laptop

Most things that we think we need, we don't ever need in reality. The few things we may need sometime in the future, mostly we can find a workaround. The other few times where there's no workaround, the penalty for not having it isn't too great. It's rare to have things that are both essential and

Re: [silk] Slow thinking

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > Very interesting point. The part that had the most resonance is "Your first > reaction is usually outdated". > > Thoughts? An important point to note, what is being appreciated here is not slow thinking, but high quality thinking.

Re: [silk] The Mother [was: Capitalism and Climate Change]

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 10:44 PM Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > It was within less than a minute after he'd sat down to 'meditate'. > > So unless he slipped into some extremely deep yogic state within seconds > after shutting his eyes .. > Now if that's not an apt use case for the Americanism,

Re: [silk] The Mother [was: Capitalism and Climate Change]

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 9:16 PM Ashim D'Silva wrote: > The current art world is its own awful mix of capitalism gone mad and > exclusionary barriers of entry and so I can’t defend its excesses either. I > guess I have to remain stuck in the middle and confused. It doesn’t help > that Banksy

Re: [silk] The Mother [was: Capitalism and Climate Change]

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 7:18 PM Manu Bhardwaj wrote: > I'm uncomfortable with this. If you had ended up doing the opposite, you > might then either have > - forgotten about the incident altogether, or > - rationalized it with an entirely different story > in order to make it consistent with the

Re: [silk] The Mother [was: Capitalism and Climate Change]

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Well that was remarkably philosophical - and sincerely felt. More > power to you. > Thank you Suresh. > The one thing I remember about the Aurobindo Ashram [...] was having a gentle joke at the expense of that

Re: [silk] Opt-out Organ Donation Option in India

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 7:19 AM Surabhi Tomar wrote: > Does anyone know what legal hurdles can legitimately stop an Opt-out organ > donation program in India? > > An example would be having an Opt-out box on the driver's license or aadhar > card. > > Also, would there be any privacy concerns? >

Re: [silk] The Mother [was: Capitalism and Climate Change]

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:05 PM Manu Bhardwaj wrote: [...] > Your Google logo is of The Mother ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirra_Alfassa)! Are you also an alumnus of > Sri Aurobindo Memorial School, Bangalore? I remember/realised that Udhay is > one too, so this list might have many more.

Re: [silk] Capitalism and Climate Change

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018, 11:30 AM Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: > The immediate problem of climate change isn't rising sea levels - it's > mass unrest, political upheaval and the inevitable dawn of authoritarian > regimes and bloody revolutions. It's absolutely certain that Humanity will

Re: [silk] Capitalism and Climate Change

We build a way of life based on greed and fear, the twin engines of capitalism, and then innocently wonder why things keep blowing up. The frantic search for a hair of the dog cure to climate change is only further proof of the depth of the addiction. It may even work for a brief while. No

Re: [silk] Bangladesh, Nepal, and the UN

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018, 3:38 AM Vani Murarka wrote: > > ---2--- > > The media cannot resist tapping into our fear instinct. It is such an easy > way to grab our attention. In fact the biggest stories are often those that > trigger more than one type of fear. Kidnappings and

[silk] Why Scientists Are Starting to Care About Cultures That Talk to Whales

Western scholarship has largely functioned with a neo colonial mindset when it comes to non Western cultures. Glad to see it changing slowly. It'd be a pity to know the price of everything and the value of nothing. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science/talking-to-whales-180968698/ Why

Re: [silk] silklist Digest, Vol 101, Issue 2

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 3:42 PM Dave Long wrote: > > Asuras and Devas are both part of the grand cosmic truth. There's > > no cosmic > > dance of life without light and darkness. > > > Along those lines, there's "The Master and Margarita"[0], in which > one of the few Asuras

Re: [silk] To keep things a bit balanced

To the Grand unified mind fear/hate and love are both equal, no? If we are only speaking of the human experience then humans at present have vastly greater capacity to fear than love. That is not to say they don't have the capacity to evolve, but right now it's not yet there. Unless there's an

Re: [silk] Centre for Humane Technology

On Mar 13, 2018 12:28 PM, "Shrabonti Bagchi" wrote: [•••] The Center for Humane Technology is a world-class team of former tech insiders and CEOs who are advancing thoughtful solutions to change the culture, business incentives, design techniques, and organizational

Re: [silk] War on Science?

I am not saying science done well isn't worthwhile, just as politics done well is beautiful, but the real world practice of both leaves much to be desired - unless one accepts that that's just how things are. There is a virtue signalling with regards to science in some kinds of political debate

[silk] Building a better world

I wanted to fork the thread "War on Science" to deal with the more interesting discussion to me - Why isn't fairness, honesty and all the wholesome qualities of being human so often absent in politicians, scientists, business leaders and other guardians of society? Of course humans have always

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Feb 21, 2018 6:24 PM, "Biju Chacko" <biju.cha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan <che...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Paying respect to science is good form, but doesn't always mean it's an > > indicat

Re: [silk] War on Science?

On Feb 21, 2018 9:17 AM, wrote: https://www.facebook.com/lynn.wheeler/posts/10214578899241825 (which points to http://www.atimes.com/indias-war-science/) Please join the discussion and add comments if you know more about this? I don't use Facebook, I'm even

Re: [silk] ‘Kind’ technology?

On Feb 6, 2018 11:54 AM, "Srini RamaKrishnan" <che...@gmail.com> wrote: On Feb 6, 2018 8:57 AM, [...] Stalin would consign to Siberia those who didn't believe in communism. Today, the banks will have us living under the bridge, if we are lucky, if we don't believe in capi

Re: [silk] ‘Kind’ technology?

On Feb 6, 2018 8:57 AM, "Tomasz Rola" wrote: Frankly, the whole thread reads a bit surreal to me, to the point where I wonder if my English... On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 06:54:52PM +0100, Dave Long wrote: On some other day, Someone Else wrote: > >"We are human beings, not human

Re: [silk] ‘Kind’ technology?

On Feb 4, 2018 9:19 PM, "Ashim D'Silva" wrote: I love that thought, thanks Cheeni. It's definitely worth keeping around as we build things. It also reminds me that @jonnysun has made two interesting Twitter bots that fit this conversation—@tinycarebot and @tinydotblot

Re: [silk] on making decisions

On Feb 4, 2018 9:13 PM, "Venkatesh H R" wrote: As we all know, some life decisions are really tough to take. Are there any decision-making models/spreadsheets/advice that you've used to make a particularly wrenching decision? If you have ten days to spare a Vipassana

Re: [silk] ‘Kind’ technology?

On Feb 4, 2018 8:24 PM, "Srini RamaKrishnan" <che...@gmail.com> wrote: It occurred to me that kind people make the world better regardless of what they do. Technology is only as kind as the intention behind it. I thought a few examples might help. A lot of the technology i

Re: [silk] ‘Kind’ technology?

It occurred to me that kind people make the world better regardless of what they do. Technology is only as kind as the intention behind it. Apropos vulnerable populations, nearly everyone is vulnerable somehow. For one unsure of one's diction, a dictionary is a very empowering tool. Or, for one

Re: [silk] What's your primary computing device?

I found the light energy from large screen monitors left me tired and weakened about ten years ago. I have been switching to smaller screens ever since. These days it's more or less just my smart phone. I perceived it was the right thing to do out of an intuitive sense. However, a simple way to

Re: [silk] Novels about Jews in India?

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan <che...@gmail.com> wrote: > > [1] A quote from an earlier work, > > When shall I at last retire into solitude alone, without companions, > without joy and without sorrow, with only the sacred certainty that > all is a

Re: [silk] Novels about Jews in India?

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Hm. What’s that stuff they smoke in those parts? Qat? Kif? Whatever it is > the rabbi was on, I’d like some please. It’d be fun to hold conversations > with a cat or dog. Perhaps you'd like the Rabbi of

Re: [silk] Books about the Bhakti movement?

Assuming knowledge is gathered and presented without an implicit bias or agenda, which is nearly impossible, the choice of the starting point on most things in life can radically alter the knowledge. For example, a logger or poacher will possess a very different knowledge of a forest from a

Re: [silk] Books about the Bhakti movement?

Historians and academicians of religion can occasionally be guilty of approaching an intuitive and lived experience largely beyond the grasp of the intellect with the cold stare of logic and ambition. They are like a computer generated Mondrian, or a film set of Auschwitz, they don't carry the

Re: [silk] Books about the Bhakti movement?

lence"let me think about that. Deepa. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan <che...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 21, 2017 12:13 PM, "Thaths" <tha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This book seems to be the one I am looking for: > > A Storm of Songs

Re: [silk] Books about the Bhakti movement?

On Jun 21, 2017 12:13 PM, "Thaths" wrote: This book seems to be the one I am looking for: A Storm of Songs: India and the Idea of the Bhakti Movement by John Stratton Hawley. I'm glad you found a book to your looking. Judging by the

Re: [silk] Books about the Bhakti movement?

Caveat: I'm consciously omitting books by professional historians that spend more time on the transactional human exchanges than the idea of Bhakti. https://istore.chennaimath.org/product/spiritual-heritage-of-india/ The spiritual heritage of India by Swami Prabhavananda; I highly recommend

[silk] On popular protests, jallikattu and twitter revolutions

First some background to what happened: Jallikattu is a popular rural sport in Tamil Nadu that involves young men chasing fearsome bulls with sharpened horns through narrow allies and mounting them bare handed. It's an exciting, yet brutal (on the player more than the animal usually) sport for the

Re: [silk] revolutions: industrial, atomic, etc.

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:02 PM, Dave Long wrote: > Does anyone have over/under odds on the expected level of > inter-ideological violence this century, compared with, say, 1914-1989?\ > Hitler famously asked the Governor of Paris, "Brennt Paris?" (Is Paris burning?)

Re: [silk] Bump in the road, or end of the road?

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Bruce A. Metcalf wrote: > But occupying the time of the vast hordes of bored and restive > non-creatives will be a challenge, and it's a challenge I have not yet seen > addressed anywhere this side of Orwell. A good and stable society

[silk] The sad illusion of India’s demographic dividend

https://www.ft.com/content/bce1cb26-9439-11e6-a80e-bcd69f323a8b The sad illusion of India’s demographic dividend The country’s middle class will lack the muscle to help drive the economy forward As Diwali, India’s festival of light, approaches, the weather in the hill station of Manali in the

Re: [silk] Bump in the road, or end of the road?

On Oct 18, 2016 06:59, "Charles Haynes" wrote: > > "any task that can be well defined is inherently capable of being automated" > > Why do you believe this? Math is littered with well defined unsolved > problems. Just because you can define it doesn't mean it's even

Re: [silk] Bump in the road, or end of the road?

The benediction and curse of the age of automation is that any task that can be well defined is inherently capable of being automated. There's no sugar coating this, a vast majority of middle class jobs across industries are going to disappear in the next decade or two. The aftershocks of this

Re: [silk] Bump in the road, or end of the road?

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan <che...@gmail.com> wrote: > Comments? I was too tired to write down my comments last night, so here they are. Given the exceptional milk and honey run of thirty odd years that Indian IT has enjoyed, any news of a decline is goin

[silk] Bump in the road, or end of the road?

Comments? http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/737W8zcjPA6lGWIajRCd6K/Indian-software-dies-at-17-from-failure-to-grasp-future.html Indian software dies at 17 from failure to grasp future The Indian software services industry died on Friday after a short battle with newer digital technologies  A

Re: [silk] Intro - Aanjhan

Welcome Aanjhan :-) Happy to see you delurk. I recently read about a scam that some Ola cab drivers pulled on Ola to the tune of several lakhs per month for several months in falsified rides using GPS spoofing software and a thousand sim cards. Impressive that this was done by your average

Re: [silk] Safe in Bangalore?

On 12-Sep-2016 20:16, "Srini RamaKrishnan" <che...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sadly this is a very old fight... > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaveri_River_water_dispute#History_of_the_dispute > Riparian disputes are as old as time, but the problem is the frequ

Re: [silk] Safe in Bangalore?

On 12-Sep-2016 19:53, "Deepa Mohan" wrote: > > > Perhaps, being one Madras Presidency was better than being Tamil and > Kannada and Malyalam and Telugu, and having our politicians set us one > against the other instead of the earlier common enemy, the Brits. > Sadly this

[silk] Safe in Bangalore?

My prayers for everyone in Bangalore to stay safe and well. We must realize the real culprit in this and other water wars that are sure to follow in the coming years is global warming and climate change due to the collective error of human industrialization. It isn't Tamil vs Kannada or man vs

Re: [silk] Maacher Jhol

BTW, asaivam does not equal vaishnavam. Siva and Vishnu are not opposite. This term asaivam/Saivam isn't about Siva vs Vishnu. Vaishnavism considers Vishnu to be Brahman, just as Siva is Brahman in Saivism, Shakti is Brahman in Shakti-ism. Brahman is an infinite quantity, far beyond the capacity

Re: [silk] Maacher Jhol

On 04-Aug-2016 10:54, "Deepa Mohan" wrote: > > And I am intrigued by the word "saivam" for vegetarian in Tamil. > Saiva would be a follower of Siva...so how does that go with > vegetarianism? Many followers of Siva are staunch non-vegetarians > so is Saivam as

Re: [silk] The Need for Guaranteed Basic Income or why Kiran is worried sick

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Thaths wrote: > "Software services major Infosys has launched an artificial intelligence > platform 'Mana' that will help clients drive automation and innovation." > > WTF does that even mean?! Tovarisch, please report for reeducation.

Re: [silk] silklist Digest, Vol 77, Issue 2

On Apr 4, 2016 3:46 AM, "Alaric Snell-Pym" wrote: > > On 02/04/16 18:33, Dave Long wrote: > > (the Jamaicans referred to speed bumps as "sleeping policemen"; I didn't > > have the presence of mind to ask what the poles were called...) > > "Sleeping policemen" is idiomatic

Re: [silk] Recommended Reading from 2015

Some books I enjoyed: - Discipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison - Michel Foucault - The Perennial Philosophy: An Interpretation of the Great Mystics, East and West by Aldous Huxley - Meditations by Marcus Aurelius - Saint Francis by Nikos Kazantzakis

Re: [silk] It's not cool, but...

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations, Udhay and Lavanya. Has it been 15 years already?! Indeed, congrats, it feels like it was only yesterday :-)

Re: [silk] Does The Landline Telephone Need An Heir In The Modern Age?

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote: The pain is finding where the handset is when a call rings. My mobile I usually have handy so problem solved. Most telcos offer call forwarding for landlines. Say for BSNL, 1. Useful for very mobile

[silk] An Indian alternative to the New York Times’ all-white summer reading list – Quartz

(Leaving the post in html for the links, and because we are living in the future now) http://qz.com/412000/an-indian-alternative-to-the-new-york-times-all-white-summer-reading-list/ ALL DESI *An Indian alternative to the New York **Times’* *all-white** summer reading list* Divya Guha and

Re: [silk] silklist Digest, Vol 62, Issue 10

On Jan 17, 2015 6:25 AM, Dave Long dave.l...@bluewin.ch wrote: […] Of course I could be completely wrong ... what do our self learning silk-listers think of all this? How long do you feel would be too long to work on an exercise or a puzzle? I like your boxing gym analogy. It is my experience

Re: [silk] So, hi! An introduction

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote: We are funny, aren't we? We is having a wee bit of fun eh? Miserable bloody rules of grammar - sometimes they chafe, sometimes they soothe. Language is an impediment to being understood.

Re: [silk] The least random number

On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Divya Sampath divyasamp...@yahoo.com wrote: I think I joined in 1998? And Udhay made me do it. cheersDivya I think that was the year I joined too - Ravi, hooked me up with Silk and Udhay. I've since made many good friends via Silk, thanks Udhay, and everyone on

[silk] Ghosts of the Tsunami

Quite tragic and moving. Worth reading. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n03/richard-lloydparry/ghosts-of-the-tsunami Ghosts of the Tsunami Richard Lloyd Parry I met a priest in the north of Japan who exorcised the spirits of people who had drowned in the tsunami. The ghosts did not appear in large

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Heather Madrone heat...@madrone.com wrote: Srini RamaKrishnan mailto:che...@gmail.com July 1, 2014 at 9:36 AM July 1, 2014 Truly salvation lies within. Or it could be that salvation is just another pretty fairy tale that human beings use to paper over death

Re: [silk] Any thoughts on the subject?

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 6:56 PM, SS cybers...@gmail.com wrote: The topic is huge and is partly philosophical. Anything sufficiently complex is ultimately completely philosophical. There's a story I was told as a kid, maybe many of you have heard it. Wikipedia describes it rather blandly like so:

Re: [silk] Bilingualism benefits aging brain

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: [...] So...it may be the odd dash of pepper, or the staple rice-and-buttermilk...I find almost all people interesting, sometimes, even the ones I dislike, as I try to analyse why I find them nasty. :D The world would be a

Re: [silk] What You Learn in Your 40s

On May 19, 2014 4:50 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: - 8 hours of sleep is not just one of life's great pleasures, it's a necessity for which I am willing to give up job offers, and many other things. - The only true evil is boredom. Human needs are merely two, physical and

Re: [silk] What You Learn in Your 40s

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I find many of my ambitious friends make a macho contest out of it - where sleeping becomes a crime. s/many/some/

Re: [silk] Fwd: Question from the Washington Post

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Heather Madrone heat...@madrone.com wrote: SS wrote: Surely US immigration policies should allow in 100,000 of the poorest, illiterate low caste Indians every year so that they can taste freedom and opportunity in the land of milk and honey?

Re: [silk] Recommended Reading from 2011

Infibeam always has as does amazon.in. Check Indiabookstore.net for price comparisons. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote: Also, looks like flipkart will not accept international credit cards. Anyone

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