Re: new upgrade policy

2014-03-01 Thread Jordi Bares
happens every year, however if you look at the Max community when >>> folks started out bemoaning their lack of development and there was a build >>> up of momentum, the AD management sent a very clear signal for them not to >>> worry. Where as on the Softimage side w

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2014-03-01 Thread Bk
have had sweet blow all. For people >> paying the same money the imbalance is very large. >> >> That is why people are very upset. >> >> >> From: Graham D Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] >> Sent: 01 March 2014 08:28 AM >> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

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2014-03-01 Thread olivier jeannel
mail.com <mailto:mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com>] *Sent:* 01 March 2014 08:28 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> *Cc:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> *Subject:* Re: n

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-03-01 Thread Jordi Bares
Where as on the Softimage side we have had sweet blow all. For people > paying the same money the imbalance is very large. > > That is why people are very upset. > > > From: Graham D Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] > Sent: 01 March 2014 08:28 AM > To: softimage@listpr

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2014-03-01 Thread Eric Lampi
For people paying the same money the imbalance is very large. > > That is why people are very upset. > > > *From:* Graham D Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 01 March 2014 08:28 AM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Cc:* softimage@listproc.autode

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2014-03-01 Thread Jordi Bares
pment and there was a build >> up of momentum, the AD management sent a very clear signal for them not to >> worry. Where as on the Softimage side we have had sweet blow all. For people >> paying the same money the imbalance is very large. >> >> That is why peo

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2014-03-01 Thread Votch
e same money the imbalance is very large. > > That is why people are very upset. > > > *From:* Graham D Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 01 March 2014 08:28 AM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Cc:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: new upgrad

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2014-03-01 Thread Gustavo Eggert Boehs
s to port emFluid5 to Fabric Engine. > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Sebastien Sterling > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Sent:* Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:27 PM > *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy > > Working on anything special at the mo Eric ? if you would like to share ? > >

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2014-03-01 Thread Sebastien Sterling
hat one can use in > its code. After that the plan is to start implementing a liquid solver KL. > There are also plans to port emFluid5 to Fabric Engine. > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Sebastien Sterling > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Sent:* Saturday

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2014-03-01 Thread Eric Mootz
o: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:27 PM Subject: Re: new upgrade policy Working on anything special at the mo Eric ? if you would like to share ?

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2014-03-01 Thread Sebastien Sterling
Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:08 PM > *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy > > And as stated before.. even better, that means another 5 years of budget > that you can redirect to such fine fellows and developers as our Mr, Mootz > here and others ;) > I see a lot of beer coming your wa

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2014-03-01 Thread Eric Mootz
Your support is greatly appreciated, thank you! - Original Message - From: Mirko Jankovic To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:08 PM Subject: Re: new upgrade policy And as stated before.. even better, that means another 5 years of budget that you can

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-03-01 Thread Mirko Jankovic
AP, which is now three years > old, and frankly I do not miss anything. > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Jordi Bares > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Cc:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Sent:* Saturday, March 01, 2014 11:49 AM > *Subject:* Re: new

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-03-01 Thread Eric Mootz
years old, and frankly I do not miss anything. - Original Message - From: Jordi Bares To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Cc: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: Re: new upgrade policy The point is that IF Softimage was abandoned, still h

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-03-01 Thread Gustavo Eggert Boehs
al for them >> not to worry. Where as on the Softimage side we have had sweet blow all. >> For people paying the same money the imbalance is very large. >> >> That is why people are very upset. >> >> >> *From:* Graham D Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com]

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2014-03-01 Thread Gustavo Eggert Boehs
t; *From:* Graham D Clark > [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com > ] > *Sent:* 01 March 2014 08:28 AM > *To:* > softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Cc:* > softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy > > Self fulfilling prophecy. > > Graham D Cl

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-03-01 Thread Jordi Bares
ey the imbalance is very large. > > That is why people are very upset. > > > From: Graham D Clark [mailgrahamdcl...@gmail.com] > Sent: 01 March 2014 08:28 AM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Cc: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: new upgrade policy &

RE: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Angus Davidson
@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy Self fulfilling prophecy. Graham D Clark, Head of Stereography, Deluxe 3D dba Stereo D phone: why-I-stereo http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamclark On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Mirko Jankovic mailto:mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>> wrote: Kris, Dead for c

RE: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Matt Lind
nd X,C,V to scale, rotate and translate ;-) Mat From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastien Sterling Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 3:18 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy S

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2014-02-28 Thread Sebastien Sterling
ble until May 2000. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>&g

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2014-02-28 Thread Eric Turman
(~v3.51), but Softimage|XSI did >>> not become available until May 2000. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>

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2014-02-28 Thread Sebastien Sterling
gt; >> >> >> Matt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Emilio Hernandez >&

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2014-02-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez
alf Of *Emilio Hernandez > *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2014 3:01 PM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > > *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy > > > > When Dragonheart came out... Funny that came in out in 1996. So maybe I > was using some other thing and not Softimage

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2014-02-28 Thread Matt Lind
: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy When Dragonheart came out... Funny that came in out in 1996. So maybe I was using some other thing and not Softimage 3D. As for Maya you are right it was Alias|Wavefront [http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8965/erojamailpleca.jpg

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2014-02-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez
When Dragonheart came out... Funny that came in out in 1996. So maybe I was using some other thing and not Softimage 3D. As for Maya you are right it was Alias|Wavefront 2014-02-28 16:10 GMT-06:00 Luc-Eric Rousseau : > Neither Maya nor Softimage|XSI existed at the time > > On Fri, Feb 28,

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
Neither Maya nor Softimage|XSI existed at the time On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: > Don't forget about Dragon Heart. I read the article on CG magazine quiet > a long time ago. > > They were supposed to end the whole feature in Maya. But then after > modeling, they jus

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Don't forget about Dragon Heart. I read the article on CG magazine quiet a long time ago. They were supposed to end the whole feature in Maya. But then after modeling, they just couldn't move the dragon. So they animated it in Softimage. 2014-02-28 15:20 GMT-06:00 Sebastien Sterling : >

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Sebastien Sterling
It's pretty much the software that wove the cinematic experiences of my childhood and I never new: Casper, Joe's apartment, independence day, the Matrix, MIB, Fight Club Jurassic Park, Titanic the Mask etc... It was responsible for several Academy Award Nominations let alone community awards. Son

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2014-02-28 Thread David Gallagher
I can't find the webpage, but remember just before Autodesk bought Softimage, Softimage won several tech/software awards from the community. So much promise! Does anyone remember that more specifically? On 2/28/2014 12:49 PM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: Well if at some point it happens that anot

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Well if at some point it happens that another company is interested in buying Sofitmage from ADSK. I belive they will have a very good handicap to make this adjustments. And I believe we will all be patient with them while they change the old stuff. Some things can be address right away if in th

RE: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Matt Lind
I don't think that is an option as AD isn't going to give up source code which holds many patents. If they did, I would tend to think the asking price would be too steep. But let's pretend AD offers the source code and the price is affordable - is Softimage really worth the price of acquiring a

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Ed Manning
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Matt Lind wrote: > > I'm on a project which has been under development for nearly 9 years and > is expected to be on the market as an iterated product for several years. > We cannot switch so easily. Even if we rewrote our tools and had them up > and running toda

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Sebastien Sterling
Disney had a hand in funding Maya's development, so i guess that is one link On 28 February 2014 14:01, Ed Manning wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Matt Lind wrote: >> >> I'm on a project which has been under development for nearly 9 years >> and is expected to be on the market as an

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Angus Davidson
uot; mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>> Date: Friday 28 February 2014 at 1:30 PM To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>> Subject: Re: new upgrade policy You know I always wondered about the Japanese SI use

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2014-02-28 Thread Sebastien Sterling
m:* Sam Bowling >> *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2014 5:07 AM >> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> *Subject:* RE: new upgrade policy >> >> >> To me, the upgrades haven't been worth the upgrade price lately (still on >> 2013 for Softimage), what makes them think I

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-28 Thread Ahmidou Lyazidi
://www.cappuccino-films.com 2014-02-28 11:57 GMT+01:00 : > exactly - and if they are about to pull the plug, no way you'd quickly > invest some more money in it. > > > > *From:* Sam Bowling > *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2014 5:07 AM > *To:* softimage@listproc.auto

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2014-02-28 Thread peter_b
exactly – and if they are about to pull the plug, no way you’d quickly invest some more money in it. From: Sam Bowling Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 5:07 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: new upgrade policy To me, the upgrades haven’t been worth the upgrade price lately

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2014-02-28 Thread Mirko Jankovic
tutorials helping SI users making that transistion... > > let's see how it goes... > > Rui > - > www.ruisantos3d.com > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Morten Bartholdy > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >

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2014-02-28 Thread rs3d
riginal Message - From: Morten Bartholdy To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: new upgrade policy A BIG +1 on this Emilio. That is the only good place to put money atm. Morten Den 27. februar 2014 kl. 19:21 skrev E

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2014-02-28 Thread Morten Bartholdy
A BIG +1 on this Emilio. That is the only good place to put money atm. Morten Den 27. februar 2014 kl. 19:21 skrev Emilio Hernandez : > Well for me and for what I do is alive and kicking and as long as third > party devs continue to bring us wonderful things, I now don't have to think > about

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2014-02-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez
features within > the application that function correctly. I do not have an old compiler > compatible with the application to write plugins to get data out if > necessary. > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listpro

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2014-02-27 Thread Matt Lind
On Behalf Of Tim Crowson Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:38 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy "It'll be fine for a few years..." That's my point exactly, Steve. We're not talking in terms of weeks or months, but in years. There&#x

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2014-02-27 Thread Tim Crowson
"It'll be fine for a few years..." That's my point exactly, Steve. We're not talking in terms of weeks or months, but in years. There's a lot of life in Softimage still, and based on the events of the last few years, that life is not contingent solely upon AD's actions. Softimage is an extensi

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2014-02-27 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
baby steps!!!..thanks Steve!sly Sylvain Lebeau // SHEDV-P/Visual effects supervisor1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) H3A 1P8T 514 849-1555 F 514 849-5025 WWW.SHEDMTL.COM VFX Curriculum 03: Compositing Basicsmail to: s...@shedmtl.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:26 PM

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2014-02-27 Thread Steve Parish
I see that everyone is at different stages at the moment, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model#Stages Refusing to accept the fact is still stage 1! Its pretty obvious that one has to adapt or die. Who knows any compositors who will only work in Shake? It'll be fine for a few years b

RE: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Sam Bowling
To me, the upgrades haven't been worth the upgrade price lately (still on 2013 for Softimage), what makes them think I would pay full price for the next one? If it comes to dropping that much money on an upgrade I'm going to do some serious looking around before spending anything. Autodesk has stag

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Francisco Criado
clap clap clap clap! best words so far by now... the day i'll see a better 3d software than softimage, i'll do the move, meanwhile and after 15 years it gave me all the tools that i need to make my work and have fun while i do it, with the price that i'm almost out of the local market that look for

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Tim Crowson
I still see no reason to jump ship at all. Unless they Soft devs working on Maya introduce not only ICE to Maya, but some amazing improvement that only exists in Maya, maybe. But I'll wager that ICE is not the only reason people have built pipelines around Softimage. People seem to think that i

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Daniel Sweeney
I'll be honest I'm sure there should be some law against this "if its true". And the studios that have spent 10-20 years plus investing in this quality bit of software don't file a law suit I will be surprised. Unfortunately I might be dreaming. I only run a small studio and soft helps me create q

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Greg Punchatz
Negativity is fine as long as there is a joke mixed in for comic relief. Are saying AD is the Alien from an original Star Trek episode called "Dave of the Dove"?? *Greg Punchatz* *Sr. Creative Director* Janimation 2

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Bradley Gabe
It's very important the si community remain calm, rational, and content during these days of transition. You must understand by now that @utode$k feeds off our misery, and the last thing we want is to empower them more with public displays of negativity. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Greg Punc

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread olivier jeannel
'Xcuse me, are you talking about my wife ? Le 28/02/2014 00:38, Greg Punchatz a écrit : Yup 20 years + for us I am sick over this I feel like someone killed my wife, and is telling me to trade her in for a "new" one. I like the one I have just fine , thank you very much!! And the w

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Emilio Hernandez
HAHAHAHA. Yes I feel the same I am not changing wife. 2014-02-27 17:38 GMT-06:00 Greg Punchatz : > Yup 20 years + for us I am sick over this I feel like someone > killed my wife, and is telling me to trade her in for a "new" one. I like > the one I have just fine , thank you very m

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Greg Punchatz
Yup 20 years + for us I am sick over this I feel like someone killed my wife, and is telling me to trade her in for a "new" one. I like the one I have just fine , thank you very much!! And the wife AD is trying to pass off on me is old, crusty, naggy and has cobwebs in all the wrong

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Sebastien Sterling
ough thats for > sure. > > > On 27 February 2014 23:01, wrote: > >> you bring the gasoline, I'll get the matches? >> >> *From:* Rob Chapman >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:25 PM >> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> *Subjec

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Rob Chapman
the greedy shysters cannot get away with it. whose bright idea was this anyways? some heads are going to roll, surely there are laws against this kind of shit were broke somewhere along the line..? there are folk out there and businesses invested over 2 decades worth of experience in this app, thi

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Rob Chapman
Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:25 PM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy > > the greedy shysters cannot get away with it. whose bright idea was this > anyways? some heads are going to roll, surely there are laws against this > kind of

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread peter_b
you bring the gasoline, I’ll get the matches? From: Rob Chapman Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:25 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy the greedy shysters cannot get away with it. whose bright idea was this anyways? some heads are going to roll, surely

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2014-02-27 Thread Cristobal Infante
rotect your business interests, but let's keep >> grounded in reality. >> >> >> Matt >> >> >> >> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage- >> boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Sale >>

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2014-02-27 Thread Rob Chapman
; > > Matt > > > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage- > boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Sale > *Sent:* Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:59 PM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy > &

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2014-02-27 Thread Jordi Bares
oftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Adam Sale > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:59 PM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: new upgrade policy > > I reupped on my subscription last month. Acting on the premise that 2015 will > be the last vers

RE: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Matt Lind
Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Adam Sale Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:59 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy I reupped on my subscription last month. Acting on the p

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Adam Sale
I reupped on my subscription last month. Acting on the premise that 2015 will be the last version of softimage, I hope autodesk will throw us sub customers a bone and allow us to transfer our subcriptions over to maya without having to purchase the entire package. That would be the honorable thing

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2014-02-27 Thread Simon van de Lagemaat
"i don't know who it was, but whoever trimmed either email... thank you!" On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Tony Naqvi wrote: > Anyone remember thins ;) > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRd5uaM18Qg > > > > >

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2014-02-27 Thread Eric Thivierge
yet you didn't trim that message! :P On Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:29:51 PM, Kris Rivel wrote: Ha...I think it was me...drove me nuts :-) Kris

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2014-02-27 Thread Kris Rivel
Ha...I think it was me...drove me nuts :-) Kris On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Steven Caron wrote: > i don't know who it was, but whoever trimmed either email... thank you! > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Bradley Gabe wrote: > >> Remember when Fox canceled Futurama? Family Guy? >> >

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2014-02-27 Thread Tim Crowson
It was ironic the Japanese word for 'future' -Tim On 2/27/2014 12:47 PM, olivier jeannel wrote: Remember Mirai ? http://www.izware.com/mirai/ At least they have their own website... Le 27/02/2014 19:38, Bradley Gabe a écrit : Remember when Fox canceled Futurama? Family Guy? -- Si

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Steven Caron
i don't know who it was, but whoever trimmed either email... thank you! On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Bradley Gabe wrote: > Remember when Fox canceled Futurama? Family Guy? >

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2014-02-27 Thread Paul Griswold
It seems to me if Splice is out & devs like Eric Mootz are starting to build things, there is the potential to transition from ADSK applications gradually rather than cold turkey. It would be very cool to see all the fantastic people who have been contributing to Softimage over the years turn thei

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread olivier jeannel
Remember Mirai ? http://www.izware.com/mirai/ At least they have their own website... Le 27/02/2014 19:38, Bradley Gabe a écrit : Remember when Fox canceled Futurama? Family Guy?

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2014-02-27 Thread Bradley Gabe
Remember when Fox canceled Futurama? Family Guy?

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2014-02-27 Thread Paul Doyle
lol not at all - I appreciate the candour On 27 February 2014 13:35, Jordi Bares wrote: > Will do, sorry if I sounded negative, hopefully only ignorant. > > :-) > > Jordi Bares > jordiba...@gmail.com > > On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:25, Paul Doyle wrote: > > Hi Jordi - I'd suggest joining our mailin

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Sergio Mucino
I guess the part you won't like is when 3rd parties stop supporting Soft. After all, 3rd party developers are there to make money. It makes little sense to invest dev resources in something that has no future (unless the effort involved is quite trivial). I'm not saying Soft is dead... I'm sayin

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Jordi Bares
Will do, sorry if I sounded negative, hopefully only ignorant. :-) Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:25, Paul Doyle wrote: > Hi Jordi - I'd suggest joining our mailing list if you want to get into > things in more detail, I don't want to abuse my presence here - > https:

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread olivier jeannel
Same here :) Le 27/02/2014 19:21, Emilio Hernandez a écrit : Well for me and for what I do is alive and kicking and as long as third party devs continue to bring us wonderful things, I now don't have to think about stupid subscritpions or ADSK "client oriented policies". Now all my money is d

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Doyle
t; > -- > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Jordi Bares > *Sent:* 27 February 2014 18:17 > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: new upgrade poli

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Doyle
Hi Jordi - I'd suggest joining our mailing list if you want to get into things in more detail, I don't want to abuse my presence here - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/creationplatform All I'll say is that the 2.0 release will make it a lot easier for TDs to get going with Fabric, and ther

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Well for me and for what I do is alive and kicking and as long as third party devs continue to bring us wonderful things, I now don't have to think about stupid subscritpions or ADSK "client oriented policies". Now all my money is destinated to third party devs that will continue to support Softim

RE: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread adrian wyer
utodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares Sent: 27 February 2014 18:17 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: new upgrade policy I have the feeling I won't have the resources to build these kind of tools, looks to me like you do tools f

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Jordi Bares
I have the feeling I won't have the resources to build these kind of tools, looks to me like you do tools for R&D which is great but we don't do R&D, in fact, very few people do. Therefore I am looking at Fabric Engine with a lot of interest but I don't picture it yet.. may be I simply don't ge

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Kris Rivel
Oh its real...its dead...going to be soon...I assure you. Wish we could just take the entire thing and privately take over. But no...all its secrets, power and coolness is locked tight in a damn Autodesk vault. Very sad. Kris

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2014-02-27 Thread Paul Doyle
also - our pricing is on our website: http://fabricengine.com/get-fabric/ On 27 February 2014 12:58, Paul Doyle wrote: > > On 27 February 2014 12:54, Jordi Bares wrote: > >> Fabric Engine looks very promising but I wonder what their business model >> really is so I am quite cautious... The wor

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Doyle
On 27 February 2014 12:54, Jordi Bares wrote: > Fabric Engine looks very promising but I wonder what their business model > really is so I am quite cautious... The world is full of great ideas but if > they don't make money that is the end of it. No idea what you're getting at here Jordi - we r

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2014-02-27 Thread Jordi Bares
ion & Festival Director >>> Computer Animation Academic Group >>> National Centre for Computer Animation >>> Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk >>> <mailto:sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk> >>> >>> Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805 >>

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Eric Lampi
You should never apologize for The Who, those that don't get it should apologize for not getting it. Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/mybudoinc/animation On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Greg Punchatz wrote: > sorry dude... Soft is dead.LONG LIVE SOFT!...be it dead or a

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2014-02-27 Thread Greg Punchatz
sorry dude... Soft is dead.LONG LIVE SOFT!...be it dead or alive!! Sorry for "The Who" reference to all you who are to young to know what the hell I am talking about. *Greg Punchatz* *Sr. Creative Director* Janimation

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2014-02-27 Thread Ciaran Moloney
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: > Kris, > Dead for certain? Not yet, it is still rumor and hope to stay that way > only. > Nonesense! The hive has spoken!

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Sergio Mucino
with wide scientific and creative applications From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> ] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares S

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Eric Thivierge
Hey Luc-Eric you're the admin... any reason why their emails aren't coming through? On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:46:35 AM, Greg Punchatz wrote: Wow. *Greg Punchatz* *Sr. Creative Director* Janimation 214.823.7760

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Greg Punchatz
Wow. *Greg Punchatz* *Sr. Creative Director* Janimation 214.823.7760 www.janimation.com On 2/27/2014 10:39 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: FYI, some of the Fabric guys have been trying to respond on

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Eric Thivierge
Makes you wonder eh? On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:41:30 AM, Cristobal Infante wrote: "aren't getting through"? please tell me this is a technical glitch... On 27 February 2014 16:39, Eric Thivierge mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com>> wrote: FYI, some of the Fabric guys have been trying t

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Cristobal Infante
"aren't getting through"? please tell me this is a technical glitch... On 27 February 2014 16:39, Eric Thivierge wrote: > FYI, some of the Fabric guys have been trying to respond on the list about > the comments regarding Fabric but their emails aren't getting through. > > Eric T. > > >

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Eric Thivierge
FYI, some of the Fabric guys have been trying to respond on the list about the comments regarding Fabric but their emails aren't getting through. Eric T.

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread olivier jeannel
proc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> ] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares Sent: 27 February 2014 14:24 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: Re: new upgrade policy You can certainly animate in Houdini (I

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Eric Thivierge
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> ] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares Sent: 27 February 2014 14:24 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:so

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Andy Nicholas
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Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Lawrence Nimrichter
st think the new upgrade policy is bullsh*%. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Graham Bell >> wrote: >> Well of course it's limited, because the upgrade policy itself is changing >> next year. >> >> From: softimage-boun...

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Sergio Mucino
<mailto:dan...@northforge.co.uk>] *Sent:* 26 February 2014 11:19 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy I am as quick as I can off the autodesk

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Mirko Jankovic
;>> Inclined to agree. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27 February 2014 00:10, Scott Parrish wrote: >>>> >>>>> Again, I know! >>>>> >>>>> I just think the new upgrade policy is bullsh*%. >>>>> >&g

Re: new upgrade policy

2014-02-27 Thread Vincent Fortin
>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Graham Bell >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well of course it's limited, because the upgrade policy itself is >>>>> changing next year. >>>>> >>>>> From: softim

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