RE: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Wow your unreasonable to say the least -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:50 AM To: john_far...@btinternet.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: FW:

RE: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread richard kurlander via Talk
AI have a full time job, a lot of blindpeople are unemployeed and they don't have the money to even buy software or embossers if they want to braille. gw micro should have been working with microsoft from the getgo. People can work from home and work in their underwear to help people, that's

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread richard kurlander via Talk
if you a computer engineer you know a lot more than I do and people like you should help other blind people by giving them hands on training if you do tech support.At 04:01 PM 5/16/2017, you wrote: Simplicity is in the eye of the beholder. We all need different things. I am a computer

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread richard kurlander via Talk
you used to work for we I feel as a blind person that tech support in these companies should give hands on training for free not just say read a manual or listen to tutorials. that doesn't work for me. I learn better with hands on. I work all day and certainly do not have the time to read

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread James Bentley via Talk
I’m not Joseph, but try this. Jaws key plus D, to get in to the currently focused application dictionary. Follow this with a control shift D, to get in to the global dictionary. then hit enter and follow the menus. Good luck, James B From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread net bat via Talk
its in the utility pull down menu -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:23 PM To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, Does Jaws have a pronounciation dictionary like Window-Eyes has and how do

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Hi Joseph, Does Jaws have a pronounciation dictionary like Window-Eyes has and how do you get to it? Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi

Re: WE and firefox 64 bit

2017-05-16 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Just run the 32 bit version. You gain little if anything with most 64 bit versions of programs. Some actually run slower. It's not the simple double the number equals double the performance one might think. Half of the windows programs on a 64 bit system are 32 bit. Regards, Tom On 5/16/2017

The JAWS Experience

2017-05-16 Thread Dave via Talk
Grumpy Dave here, the Reluctant New Jaws user. I downloaded the MP3 files telling a little bit about the way to Migrate, and then to start using Jaws. These audio files are short and to the point. They don't go into great detail, but give enough to get Jaws installed and to at least have

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
I do need to apologize. You don’t actually have to download the DAISY books if you don’t want to. They are designed to install into the default JAWS folder, and they don’t give you a lot of indications as to where they’re going. I think these are the files JAWS downloads if you use FS reader

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Can you manually delete them when your done with them? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:26 PM To: Bryan Peterson; Carol and Roger; Window-Eyes Discussion List

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Oh, one more thing. These are full DAISY text and audio. The mp3’s are in each subfolder under C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:51 PM To: Carol and Roger; Joseph Norton; Window-Eyes Discussion List

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi: Here’s something I I just learned about these downloads on the training page. They are executable files that automatically install into your JAWS program directory. They do ask for administrator priveleges, then, they install and exit. So, if you do download them, just remember they go

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
Are there audio versions? I was able to download a bok as an experiment but it was only text. I find I learn these types of things better if I have audio, and I remember when I got my first ever copy of JFW the set of training tapes that came with them. Focus your powers and prepare for

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk
Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: Hi: I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration.

Jaws and Thunderbird threaded messages

2017-05-16 Thread Brenda via Talk
Hello List, I'm trying to transition to Jaws starting with emailing which I am getting a lot of experience on lately. I find with Jaws I have to view messages as threaded which I don't like. Is there a way to read messages as unthreaded. Jaws doesn't seem to read the titles unless

RE: WE and firefox 64 bit

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Yes you should take the jaws offer as soon as possible. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Don H via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:13 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE and firefox 64 bit I

WE and firefox 64 bit

2017-05-16 Thread Don H via Talk
I installed firefox 64 bit on my Win 10 64 bit machine and find that when using it WE has no browse mode. Does this mean that WE is already becoming obsolete in keeping up with change? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely

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2017-05-16 Thread Heewon Chun via Talk
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RE: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
They should offer it. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:18 PM To: Loy; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive? As I

Re: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Natalie via Talk
But what happened to such an easy-to communicate probram? We should have paid more than the institutions who got it all. We lost. Natalie On 5/16/2017 7:17 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: As I understand it, this was suggested and pushed for, but the powers that be at vfo said no. 73

RE: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Paulette Vickery via Talk
Just the same, since you don't have to stop using WE, I would get Jaws while it is free and before they change their minds. You don't have to use it right now, just get it while it is free! Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
As I understand it, this was suggested and pushed for, but the powers that be at vfo said no. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Tue, 16 May 2017, Loy via Talk wrote: Being there is thousands of WE users to convert over to JAWS, it would be good if there could develope a Window Eyes

RE: a question about window-eyes for office

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Yes it will work -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Norene Trappa via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:14 PM To: Joseph Norton; Mike Bernard; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: a question about window-eyes

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
There are some programs under Utilities, though I wouldn’t call them bloatware. What 9 programs are you referring to? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:03 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi, I just installed

Re: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Loy via Talk
Being there is thousands of WE users to convert over to JAWS, it would be good if there could develope a Window Eyes keyboard layout, like Window Eyes had a JAWS keyboard layout. - Original Message - From: brice Mijares via Talk To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ;

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
I'd be interested in this history. Do you have a link? Got my first Apple 2 e in 1983 from computer aids, ran screen-talk and then vocal-eyes and then window-eyes. I think I've been doing this stufs much to long. Now I begin learning n v d a. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On

RE: Question RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-16 Thread Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
You might have to pay for it. I can send you the keystrokes. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Natalie via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:01 PM To: Doug Geoffray; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re:

Re: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread brice Mijares via Talk
Anyone that refuses this offer to switch over to Jaws essentially for free is flippen nuts. Grow up youngsters! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Natalie via Talk
I'm curious. When they sold to A.I. Squared did they realize this would appen ? Just curious. I know big eats small but is AI Squared really a company or a shell? Natalie Johnson On 5/16/2017 5:56 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Get your facts straight! Doug and Dan did not sell

Re: migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Your completely uninformed posts are really making a fool of yourself. Window-Eyes was JAWS number one competitor and now they own it. They're doing exactly what any business with three or more working brain cells in its employ would do: eliminate it. This is how things work in the real world.

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Andre via Talk
Hi Sky, WWhere do you get Dave's historical account from? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:20 AM To: 'CJ MAY'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE:

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk
Hi, I just installed Jaws 18, and I ended up with 9 programs! Bloatware to be sure! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/16/2017 5:17 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: FS stands for Freedom Scientific. The parent company that sells JAWS is VFO Group. They haven’t changed the name of the

Re: Question RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-16 Thread Natalie via Talk
Do you know if there is any braille backup for how to deal with JAWS? WindowEyes was really good with that. I'd hate to have to braille all of the changes although guess I can. Natalie On 5/16/2017 11:16 AM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote: Karen, Currently we don't have any plans on

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
I’m not sure what’s going on there. If you press Enter on the link, it should say “downloading book”. Then, it will install the book. It may ask for administrator permission since it puts the book in the JAWS install directory under Training. You can download training materials using your

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Get your facts straight! Doug and Dan did not sell anything to VFO. They merged with AI Squared who waited a year before selling their soul to the shark. It is their CEO who is now a VP at VFO. Tap into your Ph.D. candidacy to see if you can figure out the sympathetic resonances in this

Re: migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk
At 05:11 PM 5/16/2017, Loy via Talk wrote: >There is nothing free, someone has to pay for it. You can't expect a company like GWMicro to provide WE to blind people. free. However a company like Microsoft could develope a screen reader where all blind people could have access, the cost could be

RE: a question about window-eyes for office

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
It should work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Norene Trappa Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:14 PM To: Joseph Norton; Mike Bernard; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: a question about window-eyes for office Hi, Will office 2013 work with Jaws? Norene -Original

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk
well, even though it started in window s 2000 we still did talk to bill gates to get him to start putting speech into windows. On 5/16/2017 4:06 PM, Darrell Bowles wrote: In windows XP, narrator was very simple. But actually, near raider started in windows 2000. Look at windows 10,

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
At first, it may not seem a good analogy, but, the various long-distance companies offered features and other value added services that differed, one from another. There were also software companies who’s programs were thrown out by acquisitions. Take PowerQuest. They offered Partition

Re: a question about window-eyes for office

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Hudson via Talk
Not with the latest version. You will need Office 2016 in order to get it to work. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
FS stands for Freedom Scientific. The parent company that sells JAWS is VFO Group. They haven’t changed the name of the DAISY reader since they were Freedom Scientific. This is not the first time a program name indicated its origin. Another example is the word processor that comes with

Re: a question about window-eyes for office

2017-05-16 Thread Norene Trappa via Talk
Hi, Will office 2013 work with Jaws? Norene -Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 5:08 PM To: Mike Bernard ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: a question about window-eyes for office Hi: The free Office version is perfectly safe.

Re: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Loy via Talk
There is nothing free, someone has to pay for it. You can't expect a company like GWMicro to provide WE to blind people. free. However a company like Microsoft could develope a screen reader where all blind people could have access, the cost could be spread acros millions of Windows user and

RE: Migration of Features?

2017-05-16 Thread Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk
At 04:05 PM 5/16/2017, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: >I totally agree here. All of this is so bittersweet. I was here at work >and it was difficult not to cry. I have worked with various of the staff at >GW Micro closely over the years on beta testing and qualified an agency for >the blind as a

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Intresting Vaughn because when I got my copy of Window-Eyes 7.2, they sent me a downloadable link and the CD for it. I really am greatful for what GWMicro has done for blind people and they should be commended for their efforts. As far as JAWS, when I got JAWS 14 in 2013, I got both a

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
In windows XP, narrator was very simple. But actually, near raider started in windows 2000. Look at windows 10, particularly the creators update, and narrator is not as simple as it once was. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Singing Sparrow via Talk >

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
You are correct: no physical media. I didn't ask for it though, so maybe if I had ... But for me: installing software off disks is obsolete.It can take six weeks for stuff to come here from the States, and I remember being very annoyed with the old GW, Ai over this very point. But:

Re: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk
narrator first started in windows xp I remember me and my mother talking to microsoft at the time and we actually got to speak with bill gates about putting speech into windows which I am glad he had taken the idea and put speech into windows. On 5/16/2017 3:25 PM, John Farley via Talk

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk
>So, no monopoly here, yet. Just business. >The same thing happened in the Long Distance and local phone markets. >The AT field is no different, whether we like it or not. Your analogy is somewhat flawed because long distance telephone carriers provided the exact same service. Whether you used

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Hudson via Talk
FS stands for freedom scientific, and they were bought out by this new group called VF oh group Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

Re: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
If Microsoft really wanted to push product and promote customer goodwill (not that they need to do that), they'd follow Apple's lead and make Windows more accessible out of the box. I'm not happy about the Window-Eyes debacle, nor the monoply that VFO appears to be creating. Perhaps we as a

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi: I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more current, in some cases. Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window.

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Alison May via Talk
And there is always the Apple Mac option with its free screen reader! Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 0777 315 8181 > On 16 May 2017, at 8:14 pm, Joseph Norton via Talk > wrote: > > While the main competitor of JFW may be gone, others are emerging. > > You’ve

RE: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread John Farley via Talk
Richard, Currently Apple products come with built in speech, as you may know. That has been a native part of the operating system for many years, if not from their inception. However, Microsoft Windows did not originally come with a speech capability. Microsoft are slowly adding Narrator

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk
I tried to download the tutorials mentioned in the FS reader, but can not. I even tried to copy the link addresses and download them manually and received a "not valid web page" error. Since we do not have access to a DVD either, how are we supposed to get said information? Carol On

RE: Migration of Features?

2017-05-16 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
I totally agree here. All of this is so bittersweet. I was here at work and it was difficult not to cry. I have worked with various of the staff at GW Micro closely over the years on beta testing and qualified an agency for the blind as a dealer awhile back. I will so miss Window-Eyes and how

Re: Migration of Features?

2017-05-16 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
Quite a few of us will be grumpy! I just signed up for the migration, and should be getting my authorization code soon.--Matthew Chao On 5/16/2017 3:42 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk wrote: Hi Dave, Well said! I don't want to make the change back to Jaws, especially since they were the

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Juan Hernandez via Talk
Simplicity is in the eye of the beholder. We all need different things. I am a computer engineer, so I need access to some of the more advanced aspects of the screen reader to use my various software development tools. Screen readers are there to help all of us. And that means having lots

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material

Re: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
It's free now. So why wouldn't you at least download it and get your registration code. You don't have to use it or even install it. And your Window-Eyes SMAs are otherwise worthless anyway. Regards, Tom On 5/16/2017 3:09 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote: I purchased window-eyes and I have some

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Thanks for the rare voice of reason, Raul. Regards, Tom On 5/16/2017 3:06 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote: Hi, this is not true. What about other browsers like Firefox and Chrome? There is always choice. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and

RE: Migration of Features?

2017-05-16 Thread Paulette Vickery via Talk
Hi Dave, Well said! I don't want to make the change back to Jaws, especially since they were the opposission, but since it's free, I will try it. But like you, I can be as grumpy as I like about the switch! I guess I will be on that Jaws list, too. Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
You get it from yourdolphin.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:28 PM To: Armando Maldonado; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: whole migrating

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
Where do you get super nova -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:11 PM To: Raul A. Gallegos ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

RE: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
According to http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate, you do need to act by July 31 to get the offer. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ted Larson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:09 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive? I purchased window-eyes

RE: Jaws-key, can it be remapped?

2017-05-16 Thread Kevin Minor via Talk
Hi. Here's how to change the JAWS key to the CAPS LOCK key. Hit INSERT+J. In your setup the INSERT key is the JAWS key. Go to the options menu. If you have JAWS running in the system tray, you'll land on this menu choice. This is how I run JAWS. I'm not sure what JAWS looks like if not

Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Ted Larson via Talk
When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book

RE: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
So, blind people shouldn’t need to use a cane to get around. We shouldn’t need a guide dog either. Sighted people just walk around all day. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:39 PM To: Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
While the main competitor of JFW may be gone, others are emerging. You’ve still got choice. It may not be the choice you would like to make, but, the playing field is changing. Neither NVDA, or System Access was around when Window-Eyes and JFW came out. Back then, you had Slimware Window

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Armando Maldonado via Talk
Yes I agree with Raul, testing out Screen reader, formally known as Super Nova and so far it's okay, much more responsitve than Jaws is in windows 10, just my own personal opinion. - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes

Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Ted Larson via Talk
I purchased window-eyes and I have some s m a's. Does this mean that if I migrate now, it is free, but, if I wait until after july 31, then I would have to pay the full price of Jaws? Regards: Ted Larson ___ Any views or opinions presented in this

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Raul A. Gallegos via Talk
Hi, this is not true. What about other browsers like Firefox and Chrome? There is always choice. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter:

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Raul A. Gallegos via Talk
Hi Darrell, I believe you have around 4 or 5 options. Let me know if I can be of assistance in helping you find the option which will best fit your needs. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email:

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Learn jaws it has virtual ribbons -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:36 PM To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: whole

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
We have a monopoly now, since eventually ie will be gone and everyone will have to use Microsoft edge and if jaws is the only screne reader that can work with Microsoft edge what can you do? If Microsoft decides to change windows to do updates and office which they did when they introduced

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi: I am pretty young, (50 this year), so I have not had as much trouble with change as some. Over the years, I have come from DOS to Windows. I started with a demo of Soft Vert. Then, I got ASAP and used the demo for a while. I also tried JAWS for DOS, as well as Vocal-Eyes. For some

RE: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
It is not a matter whether to accept or not to accept, sighted people do not need extra software to use a computer. Blind people need extra software and even though I work can pay for any software I feel blind people should be given software so they can survive in this tech world. I've read

Re: JFW first impressions.

2017-05-16 Thread James Bentley via Talk
Hi Bryan, Sorry you got stuck having to learn a new screen reader. I know how much I hate change. And, a lot of WE user’s are in for a big one. Bryan, I’m certain that many Jaws users will be happy to assist. Note, I am using Jaws 17 but, maybe the directions will be the same. To add a

Re: JFW first impressions.

2017-05-16 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Brian: I think that the pausing issue is more likely a synthesizer issue, but I could be wrong. Kevin Huber On 5/16/17, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > Ok, so I downloaded and installed the demo of JAWS 18. I’m slowly getting > the hang of it, though it’s

RE: Window-eyes commands using Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Use Insert-B for read box. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:12 AM To: Kevin Minor ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Then we have a monopoly, where there is only one option. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Dennis Long via Talk > wrote: > > I agree either accept the offer or don't. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk

JFW first impressions.

2017-05-16 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
Ok, so I downloaded and installed the demo of JAWS 18. I’m slowly getting the hang of it, though it’s taking me a while to figure out how to save things like my keyboard settings and speech rate and things like that so that they’ll be that way when JAWS first boots up. I have noticed, and maybe

Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread brice Mijares via Talk
Here here! On 5/16/2017 9:47 AM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: Quit complaining and give Jaws a try or don't. If you don't like how a screen reader is made write one yourself. I think you will quickly see the challenges the devs have. How about a little thanks to Doug and the rest of the

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Quit complaining and give Jaws a try or don't. If you don't like how a screen reader is made write one yourself. I think you will quickly see the challenges the devs have. How about a little thanks to Doug and the rest of the Staff and to VFO for giving us this offer that they didn't have

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
He has the right to choose whatever is in the market place. On 5/16/2017 12:38 PM, Darrell Bowles wrote: > Then, perhaps we are not dealing with capitalism, as the customer doesn't > have the right to choose? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 16, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk >>

RE: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
I agree either accept the offer or don't. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:30 PM To: Kurlander Richard (75); Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: FW:

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Then, perhaps we are not dealing with capitalism, as the customer doesn't have the right to choose? Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk > wrote: > > With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have >

Re: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have realized from participating on this list, is the variety of needs and experiences WE users have. So while you and I don't use mouse keys (for example), others do. I probably use %2 of WE's functionality, so probably any

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
In its purest form, capitalism is, you have something I want, and I have something you want, let's make a deal! And you the consumer can choose to purchase the product or refuse. What is more free than that? There's no political state telling you what to purchase or what to create. On

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Oh btw guys, Dave Williams, an AT specialist and trainer using NVDA and now NVDA certified, used Window-Eyes and he put together a history of Window-Eyes from GWMicro from 1.0 to the present. I think you'll find it fascinating. I have it on my computer. -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: Question RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-16 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Hi Doug, Just a quick question: how well do Jaws commands work with a Microsoft feature called Sticky Keys? I am a lefthanded keyboard user, and these sticky keys act as if they are held down, allowing the user to press a combination keys without litterally having to hold down a key. The

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread CJ MAY via Talk
I presume that it is because Window-eyes was purchased with the intention of eliminating a competitor so they are unlikely to release a source code for others to develop Window-eyes. I'm really sorry and a bit fed-up too that Window-eyes is to be discontinued but can see it is a business decision

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
I don't like that either if this what does happen. I use outlook 2013 at work part of office 365 and at home I still use Eudora 7.1.9 for my client e-mail and I have also outlook set up as I have also office 365 at home. Don't you feel that screne readers should be made as simple as possible?

Re: Migration of Features?

2017-05-16 Thread Marvin Commerford via Talk
We'll have to see if pieces of WE find there way into JFW. Don't hold your breath. In the first place there would have to be some recognition that WE has some things that may be better than they are in JFW. I'm not convinced that there's such recognition. They didn't buy AI Squared to pick

Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
I just wished all of the graphics were labeled in the windows live mail app. When I arrow up and down in the windows live maill app in jaws, it won’t say things like, replied, forwarded, read etc. It does in window eyes. -Original Message- From: Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Tuesday,

Re: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
That's one thing that's predictable: CHANGE!--Matthew Chao On 5/16/2017 10:28 AM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote: Hi Richard: We have to realize that Change happens whether we like it or not, and we have to get used to it. Many people did not like when DOS was fazed out, if you remember, but

RE: Question RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-16 Thread Doug Geoffray via Talk
Amanda, Just to be clear, this is not true. One copy of the Window-Eyes offer for users of Microsoft office can be installed on as many machines as you need. Doug -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Lee

RE: Question RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-16 Thread Doug Geoffray via Talk
Karen, Currently we don't have any plans on removing the Window-Eyes offer for users of Microsoft Office. But if you want to be safe, you can certainly just download the 9.5.4 version there now and tuck it away for a rainy day. It can be used on as many machines as you need. So yes, just

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