Re: [talk-au] OSM - NSW NPWS liaison

2023-11-01 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
In the context of the tracks, there is always the risk that if you delete something that you don't think should be there, that someone else re-maps it because they see it in the aerial photo. (As we discussed.) I guess the best is that we could detail a preferred approach (e.g. in Australian

Re: [talk-au] Routing problem near Albany, WA

2023-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
I don't know what causes it, but you can see the same problem with OSMR: https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car=-34.9226%2C117.7915%3B-34.9670%2C117.8239#map=17/-34.96524/117.82097 - Ben. ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] What are the best practices for mass updating cycle paths?

2023-02-06 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Practically, using this data would be difficult I think. Partly because there is a lot of stuff already mapped. The other problem is that I have found Councils' web sites are a bit optimistic about how much of their planned cycling infrastructure actually exists. It's hard to know what is "on

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

2023-01-17 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Just one thought on this: The "use low gears" it not itself the hazard. It is the steep hill that is the hazard (where the mitigation strategy for HGVs is to use low gears. Same for rollover/sharp bend. - Ben On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 10:38, Andrew Hughes wrote: > Thank You Greame, > > The

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-14 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
My thoughts: I wouldn't remove the names. It's a big call to say that this thing definitely does not have a name, when someone else says it does, especially if 50% have a name. - Ben. On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 14:24, Phil Wyatt wrote: > Hi Folks, > > > > Thoughts on 'named' EV chargers? Around

Re: [talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

2022-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
This very much differs by state. In NSW by default it is not allowed (unless signpost as a shared path). I assume Victoria is the same. - Ben. -- Ben Kelley This message was sent from my Olivetti typewriter On Sat, 8 Oct 2022, 09:21 Graeme Fitzpatrick, wrote: > > So, it would

Re: [talk-au] Oz tagging of speed cameras

2022-08-13 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. This page describes what to do if you are only mapping the camera (map it on the highway) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dspeed_camera This page describes what to do if you want to map both the device (e.g. on the footpath), and also the point on the road where the camera

Re: [talk-au] Adopting "AU" Prefix on Network tags

2022-08-12 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. This is a national route, rather than a state route, so we don't have that problem. - Ben. On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 at 14:15, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 at 13:37, Ben Kelley wrote: > >> >> I'm guessing more than one state has an A40.

Re: [talk-au] Adopting "AU" Prefix on Network tags

2022-08-11 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
atch the > existing structure as closely as possible. > > Dian. > > -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com https://mrebenezer.blogspot.com/ This message was sent on my Atari 400 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Surf Clubs & Lifesavers (Prv: Head or point on non-coastal land)

2022-07-31 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
t details. > > So, what do we all think is the best option for having, & showing, 2 lots > of info for the same premises? > > Thanks > > Graeme > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https:/

Re: [talk-au] Is addr:housenumber=2/20 likely to be valid?

2022-07-12 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Agreed. In Australia "32A" refers to the street number. (In the US, it is common that 32A means apartment A at street number 32, but not in Australia)  - Ben. On 13/7/2022 11:55 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 at 11:43, Benjamin Ceravolo wrote: I feel

Re: [talk-au] Is addr:housenumber=2/20 likely to be valid?

2022-07-12 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
for the first three houses > sharing the primary address site "50 Example St"." > > Is it accurate? Is addr:housenumber=1/50 the standard and preferred > solution in such cases? > > > -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com https://mrebenezer.blogspot.com/ This

Re: [talk-au] definition of PSV (Public Service Vehicles) in Australia

2022-06-26 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. I'm not sure if this helps, but a "bus lane" allows buses, taxis, bicycles and hire cars. A "bus only lane" allows only buses (not taxis and hire cars). (Neither allow rental cars.) The psv wiki page suggests tagging individual types if necessary, but implies that a taxi is a PSV.

Re: [talk-au] Bicycle access tags in Victoria and other edits edits

2022-05-17 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
nces the 2 are equivalent. - Ben Kelley. On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 09:06, Andrew Harvey wrote: > OSM never really had a good tag for truly shared foot/cycle paths, so it's > been long standing practice to use highway=cycleway + foot=designated + > bicycle=designated + segregated=no for shared

Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org

2022-05-02 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Maybe we should go ahead and request an > >> Australia category now? > > Sounds like a good idea. > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Ben Kelley ben.

Re: [talk-au] Licence mention for static mapon NiceLocal.com.au

2022-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
It needs attribution for the static map as well I think.  - Ben Kelley. On 18/2/22 15:55, Stéphane Guillou via Talk-au wrote: Hi all I just sent a message to NiceLocal.com.au about the copyright requirements of OSM, because my understanding is that the static map on their shop profiles

Re: [talk-au] Strange e-mail address?

2022-01-30 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
that will happen automatically at some point. On 31/1/22 11:21 am, Ben Kelley wrote: The list processor sorts out bounces. On 31/1/22 11:05, Alex Sims wrote: Hi Michael, Gname.org moved to gmane.io almost a year ago. So the subscription to x...@gname.org will never work again and should be deleted

Re: [talk-au] Strange e-mail address?

2022-01-30 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
s://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com Sent from my Psion___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Tagging "boundary" roads with addr:*

2022-01-03 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
01578#map=19/-27.60641/152.90991 > > Thanks for reading. > A Hughes > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@g

Re: [talk-au] Lifeguards & "Swim Between the Flags"

2021-10-19 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
that this beach never has a lifeguard.  - Ben Kelley. On 20/10/21 09:54, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: A little while back, I put the emergency=lifeguard proposal through, together with lifeguard=yes to describe those times when there is a lifeguard/s on the beach, but they may not be in a fixed

Re: [talk-au] Source material.

2021-10-17 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
copyright owner won't see it that way. There is more detail on the wiki at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Copyright Some government agencies give explicit permission for OSM to use their data. Without explicit permission, this data cannot be used in OSM. - Ben Kelley. On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 at 08

Re: [talk-au] Searching for tags?

2021-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
enstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dslipway >>> >>> The query can be modified to search a wider area, but unfortunately >>> overpass queries are not super simple (and I say this as a programmer of >>> several years) >>> Searching across a very large

[talk-au] Searching for tags?

2021-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
ipway" you only find things with "slipway" in the name. You can't search for "leisure=slipway" on the main map either. Is there some other way to search for particular features? - Ben. -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com https://mrebenezer.blogspot.com/ This me

Re: [talk-au] Tagging yellow buoys

2021-09-29 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
nything > out of the ordinary. > > https://www.msq.qld.gov.au/Safety/Navigation-buoys-marks-and-beacons > > Have fun! (& what'd you get? :-)) > > Thanks > > Graeme > > > On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 13:37, Ben Kelley wrote: > >> I have recently moved close to

Re: [talk-au] Tagging yellow buoys

2021-09-27 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
ted to say good to see someone else > interested in sea mapping, I mapped a small bit of the Georges River in > Sydney via kayak many years ago. > > On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 10:39, Ben Kelley wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I'm slowly mapping more and more buoys in my area.

[talk-au] Tagging yellow buoys

2021-09-27 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
s here, so there are yellow buoys between the channel and the moorings. Is anyone else into Open Sea Map? (We bought a boat last week :) ) - Ben. -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com https://mrebenezer.blogspot.com/ This message was sent on my Atari 400 _

Re: [talk-au] Re-tag rural residential roads to unclassified?

2020-10-01 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. I would normally tag such roads (minor roads in rural areas) as unclassified rather than residential. I suspect there is not a lot of difference between residential and unclassified though.  - Ben. On 2/10/20 14:43, Little Maps wrote: Hi everyone, I was reviewing highway tags in

Re: [talk-au] Unattributed use of map

2020-09-19 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
__ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com https://mrebenezer.blogspot.com/ This message was sent on my Atari 400 ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] OSM Way & Govt Street (centerline) Correlation, how?

2020-07-05 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
a lot more in the near future. > > Thanks in advance, > Andrew Hughes > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com https://mrebenezer.blogspot.com/ This message w

Re: [talk-au] Postal addresses

2020-03-19 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
i, I think they need to > go into the Australian Tagging guidelines. > > The answer is the same for PO boxes - use addr:full=* > > Thoughts? > > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > h

Re: [talk-au] highway=motorway_junction

2020-02-23 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. It seems pretty clear (to me at least) on the highway=motorway_junction page that the junction node should not indicate the destination, but rather on the way branching off. The examples show this situation.  - Ben. On 24/2/20 13:09, Ian Steer wrote: What do people think about this

Re: [talk-au] TfNSW Cycleways use in OSM

2020-02-23 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Some councils put up signs (often blue and white) indicating a cycle route. It generally shows the destination, maybe how far to the destination, and generally a picture of a bicycle. The sign might point to a road or a path. This is the best link I could find (sorry - big PDF, but it gives

Re: [talk-au] TfNSW Cycleways use in OSM

2020-02-23 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Don't forget the blue and white signs! Practically I'd map a lcn=yes tag (or relation) for blue & white signs.  - Ben. On 24/2/20 02:59, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: Is it possible that they are listing roads with minor traffic, connecting parts of real bicycle infrastructure?

Re: [talk-au] Magento + Leaflet = no attribution

2020-02-03 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
I guess it makes it a bit hard when the underlying product disables the attribution. Not that this excuses them though. FWIW this is the bug report I created for Smile Map: https://github.com/Smile-SA/magento2-module-map/issues/30 On 4/2/20 16:49, Phil Wyatt wrote: Good on you – I have

[talk-au] Magento + Leaflet = no attribution

2020-02-03 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
So, with nothing better to do, I was checking if Kathmandu had updated their web site to include the correct attribution for OSM. (no) It seems they use Magento (an e-commerce platform) with Smile's Map add-in for Magento. (https://github.com/Smile-SA/magento2-module-map) This in term uses

Re: [talk-au] OT: DB has correct attribution

2020-01-05 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
I think our top speed was about 235km/h. - Ben. On Sun., 5 Jan. 2020, 22:15 Graeme Fitzpatrick, wrote: > Very nice. > > What was it doing on the flat? > > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

[talk-au] OT: DB has correct attribution

2020-01-05 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
I'm currently on a train in Germany. Slowed down to 130km/h for some bends. The train wifi has a page showing you the train's location and speed, which uses OSM. Nice. https://photos.app.goo.gl/iXbF3C7mNQKioeGq9 - Ben. -- Ben Kelley This message was sent from my Olivetti typewriter

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-25 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. That seems like a good idea. How will you know the bounds of the airport? Just from aerial photos? - Ben. On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 at 22:28, Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > > We would like to manually add polygons around airports

[talk-au] Kathmandu + OSM

2019-12-02 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. I noticed that Kathmandu's web site (the clothing retailer, rather than the city in Nepal) uses OSM for their store locator, but it does not include the correct copyright information. https://www.kathmandu.com.au/stores I sent them some feedback on their web site to this effect, so I'll see

Re: [talk-au] tagging of "demolished" roads

2019-11-26 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
This seems like a good case where the road is being actively dismantled. I think the only reason to keep it at all is where you can see the ex-road in imagery, so you want people who are editing to know that this thing doesn't actually exist.  - Ben. On 27/11/19 09:32, Warin wrote: I would

Re: [talk-au] Whereis copyright?

2019-11-19 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
At first I thought yes, but wheres.com (Sensis/Telstra) uses OSM, so I guess it depends on what data they used.  - Ben. On 20/11/19 15:11, Warin wrote: I have found a contributor who is using 'whereis' as a source. I believe that is a copyright breach? Anyone know .. I don't want to go

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads' conclusion

2019-10-08 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Looks good I think.  - Ben. On 9/10/19 11:55, Warin wrote: Ok.. I think the following can be done on the Australian Tagging Guidelines; Remove the words "not map the interior private roads in detail" from service roads

Re: [talk-au] Discussion J: regionalisation of editor presets

2019-10-06 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. A question of clarification: Are you asking how to change the defaults when you yourself are editing? Or are you wanting to raise a problem you see with the current defaults? (This would seem to be a problem you perceive rather than a question.) - Ben. On Mon., 7 Oct. 2019, 10:05

Re: [talk-au] Discussion C: mapping on the street :: fixmes

2019-09-26 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Yeah agreed. If you added a FIXME, who would fix it? If I see something like that, I generally make a note to myself to go back and fix it later. - Ben. On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 09:57, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > There are lots of fixmes on the map. They don't get fixed. > If you

Re: [talk-au] Discussion A: Is this forum fit for purpose?

2019-09-24 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
You are missing one need: It needs to be something that people will use. For that reason, there are many ways to handle this, with the talk-au list being one of those. Some people use some of the other (existing) options for discussing OSM. A mailing list has its advantages and disadvantages,

[talk-au] Ways to map boundaries that won't go into OSM

2019-06-16 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. A project I have been thinking about for a while is creating a map of Anglican (church) parish boundaries in Australia. In some sense these are like admin boundaries, but the source of the boundary is not easily verifiable. While the resulting map would be based on OSM, the data itself

Re: [talk-au] Tagging frontage roads

2019-06-12 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. I would say yes. Include the name.  - Ben Kelley. On 13/6/19 12:36, David Wales wrote: Dear Talk-AU, Should frontage roads be tagged with names? I have read the wiki page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Frontage_road Consider this changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset

Re: [talk-au] Sydney mapathon

2019-03-17 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Practically it will probably need to be a weekday evening, as we are not open on the weekend. Also it will need to be a time I can make it. :)  - Ben Kelley On 18/3/19 13:03, Dion Moult wrote: Hey Ben! Thanks for the option! I'm going to tentatively suggest meeting this Saturday, 23rd

Re: [talk-au] Sydney mapathon

2019-03-16 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
gate further. - Ben Kelley. On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 16:58, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I'm interested in a local OSM I meetup, I wanted to organise one last > year, but finding a venue provide too hard, so count me in if anyone want's > to organise one. Could just be an informal meet pub meetu

Re: [talk-au] more SEO spam?

2019-01-30 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
I agree. - Ben. On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 19:24, nwastra wrote: > We seem to be getting a lot of business edits in this form lately with > only a name and description tag, often with address details or just spam in > the description tag. > As is usual with spam like business edits, they use a

Re: [talk-au] Blank map in remote country areas

2019-01-21 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. So there are 2 issues (it seems): At what zoom does the road show, and at what zoom does the name show? Take for example https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/-31.7211/150.4649 At this zoom no roads have names. Zoom in to 12, and you see highway=unclassified roads that weren't visible

Re: [talk-au] Our work in last two weeks

2019-01-21 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Personally I think that's a handy warning. - Ben On Tue., 22 Jan. 2019, 07:25 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: > On 22/01/19 02:45, Nemanja Bračko wrote: > > I agree on that, but that's the way how this tool works. > > > So you will have to accept that the tool is wrong and ignore its

Re: [talk-au] Mapping opportunities along the Great North Walk

2018-12-26 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
map while I'm on this route? I am not currently aware of a single "route" / multi-line in the OSM database that describes the Great North Walk. I considered mapping the sign posts, but they are quite plenty and probably of little benefit. Any ideas? -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com

Re: [talk-au] National Cycle Networks..

2018-11-02 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Kelley. On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 12:00, Ian Sergeant wrote: > I've noticed over the past few years a National Cycle Network "creep" > in Australia. > -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com https://mrebenezer.blogspot.com/ ___ Talk-au m

Re: [talk-au] How to map CBD boundaries?

2018-02-04 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
n OSM file > containing only the city limits, or could add them, would be great! > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.

Re: [talk-au] Routing through a park that doesn't have actual paths

2018-01-31 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
at we feel is a main thoroughfare. >>> >>> Am I missing something, have others "fixed" this problem elsewhere? >>> >>> Jono >>> >> > > ___ > Talk-au mailing > listTalk-au@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com http://www.users.on.net/~bhkelley/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] BYO drinks at restaurant

2017-11-01 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
I think that's some kind of location code. I forget what it's called. If you search for that string in Google Maps it takes you to an address at the Gold Coast.  - Ben. On 2/11/17 10:27, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks everyone for input - have gone with drinks:alcohol = BYO. Now just a

Re: [talk-au] BYO drinks at restaurant

2017-10-29 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
To be honest, I don't think this is useful, but I guess that is up to the mapper.  - Ben. On 30/10/17 14:04, Nick Hocking wrote: If byo=yes, then it would be useful to know if corkage is charged, and if so, how much. ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] BYO drinks at restaurant

2017-10-29 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
I can't see anything suitable on the amenity=restaurant page. In some sense, I suspect this is a fairly Australian thing. I wonder about a tag related to the service of alcohol at that restaurant. e.g. the description for Restaurant says "A restaurant is a place selling full meals served by

Re: [talk-au] Interchanges

2017-09-16 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
I agree. highway=motorway_junction is to mark where you exit the motorway. An aside: Exits from the Hume Motorway/M5 have exit numbers now as you approach Sydney. - Ben. On 16 Sep 2017 4:58 p.m., "Andrew Harvey" wrote: In Sydney there are a few named interchanges

Re: [talk-au] White Pages using OSM map - with accreditation

2017-06-25 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com http://www.users.on.net/~bhkelley/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-18 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
That sounds sensible. In general I don't think a rest area should be tagged as a camp site. - Ben Kelley. On 19/04/2017 08:54, Warin wrote: Hi, I have seen a few roadside 'rest areas' tagged in OSM as camp sites. At least some of these are not suitable for pitching a tent .. so

Re: [talk-au] When is a Road a Track

2017-02-09 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Generally if it's graded I would put highway=unclassified. - Ben. On 10 February 2017 at 10:51, Warren wrote: > I have asked this question before but did not really get a clear answer. > > I am working off the Western Australian Main Roads data checking against >

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2016-12-28 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Just my 2c: To the average map user, it seems that these are pretty much the same thing. (Unincorporated areas and local government boundaries.) While the technical definition is different, I'm not sure that matters so much. The 2 don't physically overlap or intersect. I don't see any

Re: [talk-au] place by remoteness

2016-05-04 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. The remoteness doesn't need to change the definition of the place (e.g. make a hamlet a town) but rather only change how it is rendered. A very remote track might show, as might a remote hamlet. I agree this might be difficult to implement in the renderer. - Ben. -- Ben Kelley ben.kel

Re: [talk-au] Inappropriate tagged areas

2015-12-16 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. I thought natural=wood was for trees that had not been planted for the purpose of forestry. landuse=forest is where they were planted for forestry. Use is not consistent. (If you harvest the natural trees, which one is it?) See the Forest page on the wiki, but landcover=trees seems

Re: [talk-au] Average speed limit cameras

2015-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
NSW RMS web site says they are only for heavy vehicles in NSW. - Ben Kelley. On 18 Sep 2015 15:14, "Andrew Harvey" <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 18/09/15 12:26, Andrew Davidson wrote: > >> Currently in NSW point-to-point cameras are only used to

Re: [talk-au] A way with no tags

2015-09-01 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. Yes it's possible. I suspect someone created the way and forgot to add the tags before saving. - Ben. -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com Sent from my Windows XP PC On 2 Sep 2015 07:10, "John Henderson" <snow...@gmx.com> wrote: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/3

Re: [talk-au] street addressing city or suburb?

2014-10-13 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
with any street related to the address. That is, it's probably better to let routing software infer the town, rather than re-enter it for every address. - Ben Kelley. -- Ben Kelley Sent from my Nexus 7 On 14 Oct 2014 11:19, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: As far as routing

Re: [talk-au] New key proposal - paved=yes/no

2014-09-21 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
My experience is that surface can have descriptive values that don't immediately indicate if the road is paved or not. Things like asphalt (presuming paved=yes) and gravel (presuming paved=no) are common. - Ben Kelley On 22 Sep 2014 09:24, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Tagging

Re: [talk-au] New key proposal - paved=yes/no

2014-09-20 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. This sounds like a very good suggestion. Often you just want to know if the road is paved. It seems like that was the original intent of surface=, but that is not how it gets used now. How surface= implies paved= sounds good too. - Ben. On 21 Sep 2014 11:03, David Bannon

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-29 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. I seem to remember there is a way to add the node to a relation so that it marks where the name should go for the boundary. - Ben. On Apr 30, 2014 12:11 AM, Michael Gratton m...@vee.net wrote: I noticed that as for many suburbs in SA, since I replaced the place=suburb node previously

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-29 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Thanks Ian. :-) On Apr 30, 2014 7:31 AM, Ian Sergeant ina...@gmail.com wrote: Admin_centre. On 30 Apr 2014, at 6:11 am, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I seem to remember there is a way to add the node to a relation so that it marks where the name should go for the boundary

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-21 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. My memory of the last abs import was that it was reasonably accurate, but not always totally accurate. As such it is definitely worth importing from a data quality point of view. A way to deal with updates would be good though. Is there an ID that from abs for the boundaries that could be

[talk-au] Sydney light rail

2014-04-12 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
and ask. - Ben Kelley. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Address tagging guidelines for Australia

2014-01-19 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
be confusing. - Ben Kelley. On 19 Jan 2014 14:01, Stéphane Guillou stephane.guil...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone for your input. I wonder what was the rationale behind using abbreviations for countries and states as I understood that the database must be as human-readable as possible

Re: [talk-au] Address tagging guidelines for Australia

2014-01-19 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
these boundaries to describe addresses where they are present. - Ben Kelley. On 20 Jan 2014 09:22, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/01/2014 8:48 PM, Ben Kelley wrote: Hi. I think in Australia, as far as gazetted places go, suburb=town, but for these, you can derive it if the suburb has an admin

Re: [talk-au] Damage to Maps

2014-01-01 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
to revert. - Ben Kelley On 2 Jan 2014 13:56, Peter Watson peter.bmwk7...@gmail.com wrote: A new user has removed some large amount of shore line in the Hawkesbury River Brooklyn area. The Hawkesbury River and Ku-ring-gai Chase National Park relations are now broken. There is a lot of white now

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: data.sa.gov.au

2013-07-25 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Well done. Thanks for following it up. - Ben Kelley On 25 Jul 2013 16:19, Alex Sims a...@softgrow.com wrote: I've now obtained permission and recorded it at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#South_Australian_Government_data This is really very helpful as it allows

Re: [talk-au] Rivers that have dams on them

2013-06-12 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. I would run the main waterway=river way through the lake polygon, like you run it through a riverbank polygon. - Ben Kelley On 12/06/2013 2:32 PM, Brett Russell brussell...@live.com.au wrote: Hi** I am now starting work on rivers and streams but would like some guidance

Re: [talk-au] Alphanumeric references in NSW

2013-05-09 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. The new routes are supposed to be complete by the end of this year. I know it takes me a while to get around to fixing something on OSM. Perhaps if you are keen then approach 2 is OK (and signage will catch up eventually). If you are lazy then 1 is the default. :) - Ben Kelley. On 10

Re: [talk-au] Alphanumeric references in NSW

2013-05-02 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. I have seen a few A15 signs on the New England Highway, but there are still quite a few 43 and 15 signs along the route. The ground can still be a bit confusing. - Ben Kelley. On 3 May 2013 15:08, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've noticed a few people are changing

Re: [talk-au] Suburbs in Australia

2012-12-20 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. Suburb can mean an area bounded by a gazetted boundary. There is a sense in which town is similar to suburb, in the sense of how the boundary is defined. I am pretty sure the UK is different in this regard. I don't know if West Pymble is a gazetted suburb (I think yes), but it would then

Re: [talk-au] Sydney Circular Quay missing

2012-12-17 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Thanks for that. - Ben Kelley. On 17/12/2012 8:37 PM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Ben Kelley wrote: Most of Circular Quay, east of Pitt St seems to have disappeared. Seems to be change 14271851. Could someone revert this? I've reverted it. I'll send a polite

[talk-au] Sydney Circular Quay missing

2012-12-16 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. Most of Circular Quay, east of Pitt St seems to have disappeared. Seems to be change 14271851. Could someone revert this? - Ben. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] When is a road a cycle route?

2012-12-01 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
with whether some physical presence on the ground is required, as opposed to I thought this might be a nice street to ride my bike down. - Ben Kelley. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] tagging 4WD and dirt roads - I give up.

2012-11-12 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. My 2c. It seems like there are a few issues here: 1 - The current mapnik style does not identify unpaved roads at all. 2 - For an unpaved road, the quality of the surface can vary a lot, and it would be good to have a way to tag this. 3 - Some roads require a 4WD. This can be a legal

Re: [talk-au] scenic routes

2012-11-07 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Agreed. What Ian says. Use a route relation. - Ben. On Nov 8, 2012 9:18 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: Traditionally, I've seen these mapped as route relations type=route route=road network=T ref=number Where they are numbered tourist routes. There are a fair few of

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-11-01 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
You can change how mapnik renders by defining different styles for different zooms. Essentially with render hints you are saying that you would like this way to look like a different type of way. If this does not map to some verifiable attribute of the way then it becomes your preference.

Re: [talk-au] Optimising map rendering for recreational use

2012-10-31 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
to render it as a different type of road. - Ben Kelley. On Nov 1, 2012 3:01 PM, Li Xia lisxia1...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, have an idea about map rendering and want to get your thoughts. One of the challenges is in rendering a useful map for recreational use is displaying roads, tracks

Re: [talk-au] surface tag

2012-10-23 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. Common usage is that surface=paved is any kind of sealed road including asphalt. - Ben Kelley On Oct 24, 2012 9:23 AM, Andrew Laughton laughton.and...@gmail.com wrote: Hi People Sorry if this has already been stated, I have not mapped since the licence change and I am only reading

Re: [talk-au] Lots of amenities ?

2012-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. Yes just put multiple nodes. E.g. petrol station that has a toilet. - Ben. On Oct 17, 2012 3:14 PM, dban...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi folks, I have been fixing some of the errors that http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?schema=50error=38081608 tells us about. I note that at

[talk-au] Routing islands

2012-10-12 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
another one that is not fixed yet: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routinglon=150.82846lat=-33.75053zoom=15 I haven't looked into that one yet, but I suspect one end of the road (or both ends) is not connected to the surrounding streets. It's quite a useful tool. - Ben Kelley

Re: [talk-au] School Zones

2012-08-24 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
about a school zone, but I don't think there are any that could get this from OSM. For now I preserve these tags if I am editing a way that has them, but I don't add them if they are not there already. - Ben Kelley. On Aug 24, 2012 6:38 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/08/12

[talk-au] Good no name layer?

2012-08-20 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. Does anyone know a good way to find streets with no names? Potlatch no longer has this option, and Cloudmade's noname map is not up to date. Basically I'm trying to find any streets with no names in an area where most streets have names. - Ben Kelley

Re: [talk-au] Good no name layer?

2012-08-20 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Oh actually OSM Inspector can show this. http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/ Choose view Highways and check boxes as appropriate. - Ben. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Missing data

2012-08-20 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
bot - Ben Kelley. On Aug 20, 2012 9:52 AM, Diego Molla dmollaal...@gmail.com wrote: (sorry I forgot to type a title) I added the data a few years ago, and I think it was deleted in the last couple of weeks. Today I noticed that some of the data is back but not all. I'll keep checking

Re: [talk-au] RMS (NSW)'s Bicycle infrastructure map in beta ( http://www.bicycleinfo.nsw.gov.au/maps/cycleways.html )

2012-08-19 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
I had a quick look at it this morning, and it seems a bit inaccurate in areas where I know OSM is good. (Ashfield, Marrickville, Burwood) Essentially routes marked on the map that are not cycle routes and actual cycle routes missing. That said, there are probably places where it lists real cycle

Re: [talk-au] (no subject)

2012-08-18 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
Hi. When did you originally map it? Are you aware of the work of the redaction bot around the license change? It's possible some of it was deleted by the bot after it had been remapped by someone else. - Ben Kelley On Aug 19, 2012 11:58 AM, Diego Molla dmollaal...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody

Re: [talk-au] Marrickville Cycle Routes (Was: Re: Redaction recovery)

2012-08-05 Diskussionsfäden Ben Kelley
I have been doing a cleanup of Marrickville routes. For routes that have a reference (and a relation on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sydney_Cycle_Routes#Marrickville ) these are now done: * L1 * L4 * L6 * L7 * L8 * L10 * L11 * L12 (pretty short route really) * L13 L2 and L5 seem to get

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