[talk-ph] Years of Edits in the United States by ITOworld

2012-10-19 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
From the makers of the very excellent 2008-2011 Year of Edits map comes the version for the United States: http://vimeo.com/51341994 I hope we can create something like this for the Philippines. :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Jean-Marc Liotier
On 10/18/2012 11:13 PM, Cartinus wrote: On 10/18/2012 09:44 PM, Christian Rogel wrote: By the way, could you stand receiving any message in a language you cannot understand. that seems to be looking for infuriating the non-English speaking users? On 10/18/2012 10:30 PM, Eric Marsden wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Paul Norman
From: Jean-Marc Liotier [mailto:j...@liotier.org] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration) Of course, international collaboration requires a common ground and the Internet has

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione THEVENON Julien
De : Paul Norman penor...@mac.com If the French community has contact info (email preferred) for someone who speaks both English and French and is willing to take on dealing with contacting users and getting them to use dedicated accounts I'd welcome it. But you already have it (  Christian

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 19.10.2012 00:47, schrieb andrzej zaborowski: This is off topic in this thread, but I'd like to set the record straight. Who do you refer to as we when you say you had to spend any time sorting those changes? T Just so that it is clear to our dear readers: there is no doubt

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Elena ``of Valhalla''
My opinion as an italian contributor On 2012-10-18 at 14:34:37 -0700, Jérome Armau wrote: In non-English-speaking countries, that also means that the average contributor: - does not have a very good command of English (beyond the tagging standards) - does not know about services such as

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Peter Wendorff
Am 18.10.2012 23:34, schrieb Jérome Armau: Keep in mind that we're trying to make the openstreetmap project accessible to a larger share of the population. In every single country, that means appealing to a non-computer-geek crowd. For example, the usage of -Djosm.home=dir is dark magic to

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Jean-Marc Liotier
On 19/10/2012 10:14, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote: you can't expect people from the project to speak French, German, Italian, Spanish, Polish and every other language spoken whenever people want to form a local OSM community (or just map). That is why intermediaries are needed - and why the

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Michael Kugelmann
Am 19.10.2012 10:14, schrieb Elena ``of Valhalla'': what you should do as a local community is to setup a translation team that translates important messages / threads from this (and other important global mailing lists) to and from the local one. +1 Just as an example: not every person in

[OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Per discussione Michael Collinson
FYI http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-10/17/content_15822970.htm ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Manfred A. Reiter
Dear Elena, Dear all, Cari amici, Chers amis, Liebe Freundinnen und Freunde, Sevgili Arkadaşlar, Dragi prieteni oí galera, ... First of all thank you Elena for your comments. May I aks you *all* to cool down a little bit. What I read here in the last days,

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2012-10-19 at 10:36:40 +0200, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On 19/10/2012 10:14, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote: you can't expect people from the project to speak French, German, Italian, Spanish, Polish and every other language spoken whenever people want to form a local OSM community (or just

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Jean-Marc Liotier
On 19/10/2012 11:36, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: I think we have the same aims, and the HOW TO should be resolved. I do believe that deep down inside we have the same implicit goals. But there seem to be a few misunderstanding about how to turn those implicit common goals into explicit common

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Per discussione John Sturdy
How long does it take to check a map of China for accuracy? ;-) With the speed Chinese building companies can work at, I reckon at least one new city could be built in the time it takes to check the whole map. The check really seems to be that various points of contention are to be shown in the

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Jean-Marc Liotier
On 19/10/2012 11:42, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote: On 2012-10-19 at 10:36:40 +0200, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: That is why intermediaries are needed - and why the English speakers must learn to accept the need for international intermediation. who are these English speakers? They are you and me

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Manfred A. Reiter
Cher Jean-Marc and all 2012/10/19 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org On 19/10/2012 11:36, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: I think we have the same aims, and the HOW TO should be resolved. Tu crois qu'il est juste de répondre seulement à une phrase? Non, je ne croix pas. Ca c'est tout simple! I

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione f . dos . santos
De : Paul Norman penor...@mac.com If the French community has contact info (email preferred) for someone who speaks both English and French and is willing to take on dealing with contacting users and getting them to use dedicated accounts I'd welcome it. But you already have it (

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Per discussione Dongpo
The accuracy of the China's mapping authority focuses on checking whether the territory of China is correct and completed. In the China authority point of view, the correct and completed China's maps should include Taiwan, and some controversial areas such as Diaoyu Islands. That's the accuracy

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Christian Quest
No problem for me as long as the process in setting such hard rules is transparent, community driven and reaches a consensus which is obviously not the case at all stages here. That's why I ask questions about governance... but nobody seems to be interested and prefer to keep on focusing the

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Alex Barth
FWIW, I'm interested to see the disagreeing parties to get together and work out a solution, I'm a friend of subsidiarity, but we clearly have a couple of OSM-global issues to solve: - proper tracking of imports given current technical limitations - ideal solutions and the path there -

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Per discussione pavithran
On 19 October 2012 16:15, Dongpo don...@iis.sinica.edu.tw wrote: That's the accuracy they concern. Even though those are not facts, they still persist to claim those areas are belong to China. Accuracy!? That means some of the Indian borders with china should be watched ! They do have some

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Jean-Marc Liotier
On 19/10/2012 13:07, Alex Barth wrote: FWIW, I'm interested to see the disagreeing parties to get together and work out a solution, I'm a friend of subsidiarity, but we clearly have a couple of OSM-global issues to solve: - proper tracking of imports given current technical limitations -

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy

2012-10-19 Per discussione Nick Hocking
Does this mean tha the openstreetmap website/database will not be accessable in China. If so then we can get no more edits from there. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Cartinus
On 10/19/2012 08:40 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: I was looking for examples of cultural imperialism - here is a very nice one, thanks ! You cut off the P.S. No, English is not my native language. and missed the .nl in my e-mail address. -- --- m.v.g., Cartinus

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Jean-Marc Liotier
On 19/10/2012 14:35, Cartinus wrote: On 10/19/2012 08:40 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: I was looking for examples of cultural imperialism - here is a very nice one, thanks ! You cut off the P.S. No, English is not my native language. and missed the .nl in my e-mail address Willing vassals are

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Per discussione Pavel Melnikov
BTW, how does osm community map territories and borders that are claimed by several countries? There are some cases in Asia, including mentioned China borders. And also, the article in question has bold and determined tone, but can China authorities legally restrict osm community from drawing

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Olivier Croquette
On Oct 19, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: Preamble: all (Netherlands, English, Italien, French, German, DWG ...) here on the list would ensure the quality of data in OSM. Facts: 1. Our french friends have done and will do imports into the database from cadastre. 2. Some

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Alex Barth
Gerdami - DWG is short for Data Working Group http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group On Oct 19, 2012, at 8:49 AM, gerdami gerd...@yahoo.com wrote: Just wondering what DWG stands for. Best regards, gerdami Belgian - French Not sent from any iPhon/iPad, never From: Sam

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Per discussione Christian Quest
Thanks Mike for this very interesting example of [closed|mis|non|top-down] governance... 2012/10/19 Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz: FYI http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-10/17/content_15822970.htm Next SOTM in China ? -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France -

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Olivier Croquette
On Oct 19, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: and last but not least ... please cool down ... dont talk to me about cultural differences - try to solve the issue. Oh, and by the way, I really don't think the root cause of the situation has anything to do with cultural differences,

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Manfred A. Reiter
Hi Oliver ... thank you for a factual and explanatory answer. At least I hope you can stop the flamewar. 2012/10/19 Olivier Croquette m...@ocroquette.de On Oct 19, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: Preamble: all (Netherlands, English, Italien, French, German, DWG ...) here on

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Jean-Marc Liotier
On 19/10/2012 15:30, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: At least I hope you can stop the flamewar. Talking about that, members of the talk-fr mailing list are discussing pragmatic solutions that might bring everyone together at last: - On the political plane, there is talk about how a qualified

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione andrzej zaborowski
On 19 October 2012 09:17, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: .. The UMP imports show nicely how broken at least object level source tagging is, a large number of objects have/were infected by source tags from UMP imports without actually being derived from such data requiring heuristics to

[OSM-talk] Event in Vienna/AT: Int'l UN Crowdsourced Mapping

2012-10-19 Per discussione Alex Barth
Who's planning to attend? Looks interesting, but not sure I will be able to travel. Event: Dec 3-5 2012 / Application deadline: Oct 19, 2012 United Nations International Expert Meeting on Crowdsource Mapping for Disaster Risk Management and Emergency Response

Re: [OSM-talk] Event in Vienna/AT: Int'l UN Crowdsourced Mapping

2012-10-19 Per discussione Mikel Maron
Nicolas and Schuyler attended last year for HOT. I'm not sure if we've identified someone to represent HOT there yet. Main topic of discussion (for HOT at least) is greater sharing of imagery in responses; as well as use of OSM among UN partners. And a nice touch, UN Spider has switched to

Re: [OSM-talk] Event in Vienna/AT: Int'l UN Crowdsourced Mapping

2012-10-19 Per discussione Alex Barth
On Oct 19, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Nicolas and Schuyler attended last year for HOT. I'm not sure if we've identified someone to represent HOT there yet. Main topic of discussion (for HOT at least) is greater sharing of imagery in responses; as well as

Re: [OSM-talk] Event in Vienna/AT: Int'l UN Crowdsourced Mapping

2012-10-19 Per discussione Michael Collinson
I've signed up. - Mike On 19 Oct 2012, at 18:45, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: On Oct 19, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Nicolas and Schuyler attended last year for HOT. I'm not sure if we've identified someone to represent HOT there yet. Main topic of

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Talking about that, members of the talk-fr mailing list are discussing pragmatic solutions that might bring everyone together Good luck. I tried that last month: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012-September/064482.html and immediately got shouted down

Re: [OSM-talk] Event in Vienna/AT: Int'l UN Crowdsourced Mapping

2012-10-19 Per discussione Kate Chapman
I applied to go as well. The original meeting I believe was focused more on disaster response, where as this one has a preparedness aspect to it as well. I'm hoping to share HOT's work and discuss the availability of imagery before a crisis happens, instead of the current situation where there

[OSM-talk] Mapping an Area

2012-10-19 Per discussione Frans Thamura
hi all a lot of POI Discussion around, and i am planning to link between node become area. so, we can have an area implementation rather just a node for POI like building, etc, we have square, and why we implemen in POI node Question: how to make a POI become an area in OSM? any idea for this

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-19 Per discussione John F. Eldredge
pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 October 2012 16:15, Dongpo don...@iis.sinica.edu.tw wrote: That's the accuracy they concern. Even though those are not facts, they still persist to claim those areas are belong to China. Accuracy!? That means some of the Indian borders with

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping an Area

2012-10-19 Per discussione Richard Weait
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all a lot of POI Discussion around, and i am planning to link between node become area. so, we can have an area implementation rather just a node for POI like building, etc, we have square, and why we implemen in

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping an Area

2012-10-19 Per discussione Frans Thamura
hi Richard I put a node for our offices. In planning lan to make a polygon/area. Still seeking how mapnik save the node and nodes for a POI Any tips? On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping an Area

2012-10-19 Per discussione Alex Rollin
Sometimes both are done, too, adding the way and the node both. How to track them once added? On Oct 20, 2012, at 4:47 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all a lot of POI Discussion around, and i am planning

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping an Area

2012-10-19 Per discussione Frans Thamura
hi Alex and All :) but adding both make dirty our map, isnt it? my plan to draw a lake, and want to make it as POI's node search. in my research, esp lake tangayika in africa, every side of this lake, have a different species of tropheus, and i got a every side of the lake create a strain.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping an Area

2012-10-19 Per discussione Alex Rollin
So...an area where they occur then Pois for specific survey results? Different tags? I understand where Richard is coming from. I also know there's technical differences dealing with areas and showing them as Pois (as if they were nodes) depending on your map presentation. Alex On Oct 20,

[OSM-talk] Java Framework

2012-10-19 Per discussione Frans Thamura
hi all any reason why we dont have JavaAPI, but we use Java for OSM, and popular, such as Osmosis and JOSM? I got the Java is ? in this URL http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Frameworks F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Het taggen van BAG data.

2012-10-19 Per discussione Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: Is het misschien een idee om hier een keer een avond/middag voor bij elkaar te komen?Dat gaat alleen werken als de hoofdrolspelers allemaal aanwezig kunnen zijn natuurlijk. In de vorige discussie met onderandere Ldp kwam ook naar voren: hoe gaan

[OSM-talk-nl] wegen in drievoud

2012-10-19 Per discussione dbussche
vandaag iets te enthousiast teveel tegelijk in een changeset gepackt.JOSM heeft daarop een aantal keren timeout gegeven tot het uiteindelijk gelukt is.Effect is nu dat alle objecten die ik geraakt heb drie keer boven elkaar in OSM staan.Weet iemand hoe dat komt en of het eenvoudig ongedaan gemaakt

Re: [Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-19 Per discussione Masi Master
Am 18.10.2012, 23:13 Uhr, schrieb Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de: Ich hätte als Flugplatz das ganze Gelände gesehen. Und Vorfeld und Gebäude sind eben Bestandteil vom Flugplatz. Ist das jetzt einfach eine ungünstige Verwendung oder kommt so was häufiger vor (und sollte dann auch

Re: [Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-19 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 19. Oktober 2012 12:15 schrieb Masi Master masi-mas...@gmx.de: Am 18.10.2012, 23:13 Uhr, schrieb Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de: Meistens sieht man das fehlerhafte Ausschneiden bei Parks, wo dann Seen und kleine Wälder ausgeschnitten werden. +1, neulich ging auch ein Beispiel rum,

Re: [Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-19 Per discussione Stephan Knauss
Martin Koppenhoefer writes: Am 19. Oktober 2012 12:15 schrieb Masi Master masi-mas...@gmx.de: Am 18.10.2012, 23:13 Uhr, schrieb Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de: Meistens sieht man das fehlerhafte Ausschneiden bei Parks, wo dann Seen und kleine Wälder ausgeschnitten werden. +1, neulich

Re: [Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-19 Per discussione Andreas Dommaschk
Hallo zusammen, ich bin jetzt etwas verwirrt wann man ein Multipolygon verwendet. Aus dem wiki geht das leider nicht genau hervor. Ich habe z.B. ein Multipolygon genommen um diesen Sportzentrum zu erstellen. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.74037lon=14.33934zoom=17layers=M Die Relation dazu

Re: [Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-19 Per discussione Jimmy_K
Am 19.10.2012 18:07, schrieb Stephan Knauss: Ich interpretiere aus euren Mails, dass die beschriebene Verwendung von Relationen, also aus Flächen die anders getaggten Sachen rauszuschneiden eine Verwendung von Multipolygonen ist, die nicht gewünscht wird. So ganz eindeutig ist das hier nicht

[Talk-de] amenity=school / building=yes / addr?

2012-10-19 Per discussione Florian Lohoff
Hi, in der vergangenheit sind viele Schulen mit building=yes + amenity=school getagged worden. Das Tagging schema meint aber das die Flaeche inklusive Schulhof etc amenity=school ist und die Schule also das Schulgebaeude nur ein building=yes bekommt. Wie klappt denn dann die zuordnung der

Re: [Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-19 Per discussione Peter Wendorff
Am 19.10.2012 18:07, schrieb Stephan Knauss: Ich interpretiere aus euren Mails, dass die beschriebene Verwendung von Relationen, also aus Flächen die anders getaggten Sachen rauszuschneiden eine Verwendung von Multipolygonen ist, die nicht gewünscht wird. Ein Multipolygon beschreibt eine

Re: [Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-19 Per discussione Peter Wendorff
Am 19.10.2012 18:24, schrieb Andreas Dommaschk: Hallo zusammen, ich bin jetzt etwas verwirrt wann man ein Multipolygon verwendet. Aus dem wiki geht das leider nicht genau hervor. Ich habe z.B. ein Multipolygon genommen um diesen Sportzentrum zu erstellen.

Re: [Talk-de] amenity=school / building=yes / addr?

2012-10-19 Per discussione Walter Nordmann
hi florian, wenn es eine Fläche mit amenity=school gibt - ob als closed Way oder Relation mir ist egal - hänge ich die Adressdaten dort dran. Hab ich NUR das building und kann keine Fläche erstellen, hänge ich die Adresse an das offensichtliche Hauptgebäude. Probleme mit Nominatim hab ich dabei

Re: [Talk-de] amenity=school / building=yes / addr?

2012-10-19 Per discussione Andreas Neumann
Am 19.10.2012 20:02, schrieb Walter Nordmann: hi florian, wenn es eine Fläche mit amenity=school gibt - ob als closed Way oder Relation mir ist egal - hänge ich die Adressdaten dort dran. Hab ich NUR das building und kann keine Fläche erstellen, hänge ich die Adresse an das offensichtliche

[Talk-de] JOSM Einstellung (zeige Objekt IDs )

2012-10-19 Per discussione Jacques Nietsch
Hallo, ich weiß, das man bei JOSM einstellen kann, das auch die Objekt-ID bei den Objekt-Eigenschaften sehen kann. Ich habe im Einsteindialog (Expertenmodus!) rauf und runter gesucht, aber nichts gefunden. Kann mir jemand einen Tipp geben? Jacques

[Talk-de] JOSM Einstellung (zeige Objekt IDs )

2012-10-19 Per discussione Franz v. Gordon
Hallo Jaques, In den Einstellungen (Taste: F12), Erstes Icon (ganz oben) Anzeige-Einstellungen, dort den Reiter ganz rechts auswählen (Verhalten und Aussehen). Hier den Haken bei Objektnummer in Auswahllisten anzeigen einschalten. Grüße, Franz

[Talk-de] JOSM Plugin no_more_mapping

2012-10-19 Per discussione Dieter Jasper
Hallo, beim Editor JOSM kan ein Plugin mit der Bezeichung JOSM-Nutzung für immer verhindern (WARNUNG:Dieses plugin verhindert JOSM am Laden und ist schwer wieder loszuwerden) aktiviert werden. Scherz (1. April hatten wir schon) oder was soll dieses Plugin bewirken? Gruß Dieter Jasper

Re: [Talk-de] amenity=school / building=yes / addr?

2012-10-19 Per discussione Lars Schimmer
On 19.10.2012 19:04, Florian Lohoff wrote: Hi, in der vergangenheit sind viele Schulen mit building=yes + amenity=school getagged worden. Das Tagging schema meint aber das die Flaeche inklusive Schulhof etc amenity=school ist und die Schule also das Schulgebaeude nur ein building=yes

Re: [Talk-de] amenity=school / building=yes / addr?

2012-10-19 Per discussione Andreas Dommaschk
Guten Abend, bei den Möglichkeiten will ich kein Entwickler sein der das mal auswerten möchte. :) Mein Variante: Schulen stehen in der Regel in Wohngebieten = landuse = residential. Das amenity= school bedeutet ja übersetzt Einrichtung = Schule und nicht Schulgelände! Gibt es schon

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM Plugin no_more_mapping

2012-10-19 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 10/19/2012 09:31 PM, Dieter Jasper wrote: JOSM-Nutzung für immer verhindern (WARNUNG:Dieses plugin verhindert JOSM am Laden und ist schwer wieder loszuwerden) Interessant ist, dass offenbar eine Reihe von Leuten diese Beschreibung uebersetzt und sich nichts weiter dabei gedacht

Re: [Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-19 Per discussione Willi
Ehe ich so forsch in die Tasten hauen und und Andere eines Fehlers bezichtige würde ich mich erst mal über Multipolygone und deren unterschiedliche Verwendungsmöglichkeiten schlau machen. Zum Beispiel die Wiki Seiten zum Thema Multipolygon lesen und hoffentlich auch verstehen

[Talk-de] ist das taggen für Mapnik?

2012-10-19 Per discussione Rainer Knaepper
Ich habe hier: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.460967lon=11.093388zoom=18layers=M einen U-Bahnsteig gefunden, der als Fußweg gemapt ist und als Tunnel. Ist das so ok? Oberirdisch sieht man dort im wesentlichen gepflasterte Fahr- und Gehwege, Straßencafés, einen Fahrstuhl, Blumenbeete

Re: [Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-19 Per discussione Stephan Knauss
On 19.10.2012 02:54, Willi wrote: Unterschiedliche Verwendungsmöglichkeiten und Ansichten zu Multipolygonen werden immer wieder im deutschen Forum diskutiert, zum Beispiel neulich: Recreation_ground und Multipolygone http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=277135#p277135 landuse ist

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM Plugin no_more_mapping

2012-10-19 Per discussione Stephan Knauss
On 19.10.2012 22:40, Frederik Ramm wrote: On 10/19/2012 09:31 PM, Dieter Jasper wrote: JOSM-Nutzung für immer verhindern (WARNUNG:Dieses plugin verhindert JOSM am Laden und ist schwer wieder loszuwerden) Interessant ist, dass offenbar eine Reihe von Leuten diese Beschreibung uebersetzt und

Re: [Talk-de] amenity=school / building=yes / addr?

2012-10-19 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2012 schrieb Andreas Dommaschk : Schulen stehen in der Regel in Wohngebieten = landuse = residential. m.E. ist die Schule nicht residential, weil da niemand wohnt, oder höchstens ein Hausmeister Das amenity= school bedeutet ja übersetzt Einrichtung = Schule und

Re: [Talk-de] ist das taggen für Mapnik?

2012-10-19 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2012 schrieb Rainer Knaepper : Ich habe hier: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?**lat=49.460967lon=11.093388** zoom=18layers=Mhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.460967lon=11.093388zoom=18layers=M einen U-Bahnsteig gefunden, der als Fußweg gemapt ist und als Tunnel. Ist

[Talk-it] Mappa Ronde Gomitolo di Lana 2012

2012-10-19 Per discussione Carlo Stemberger
Buongiorno, sono un contributore di OpenStreetMap. Grazie alla segnalazione giunta in mailing-list qualche tempo fa, ho appena scoperto che per preparare la mappa della gara Ronde Gomitolo di Lana 2012 avete utilizzato i nostri dati:

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa Ronde Gomitolo di Lana 2012

2012-10-19 Per discussione Cascafico Giovanni
Non credo si colga il sarcasmo. Forse è meglio essere espliciti: una attribuzione aiuterebbe a fare conoscere osm e rendere le mappe ancora migliori -- http://cascafico.altervista.org http://twitter.com/cascafico ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa Ronde Gomitolo di Lana 2012

2012-10-19 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 19 ottobre 2012 14:54, Cascafico Giovanni cascaf...@gmail.com ha scritto: Non credo si colga il sarcasmo. Forse è meglio essere espliciti: una attribuzione aiuterebbe a fare conoscere osm e rendere le mappe ancora migliori c'è l'attribuzione non è più quella corretta ma c'è! --

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa Ronde Gomitolo di Lana 2012

2012-10-19 Per discussione Alberto
Si la vedo anche io in alto a sx Il giorno 19 ottobre 2012 14:56, Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 19 ottobre 2012 14:54, Cascafico Giovanni cascaf...@gmail.com ha scritto: Non credo si colga il sarcasmo. Forse è meglio essere espliciti: una attribuzione aiuterebbe a fare

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa Ronde Gomitolo di Lana 2012

2012-10-19 Per discussione Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 19 ottobre 2012 14:54, Cascafico Giovanni cascaf...@gmail.comha scritto: Non credo si colga il sarcasmo. Forse è meglio essere espliciti: una attribuzione aiuterebbe a fare conoscere osm e rendere le mappe ancora migliori Non credo che ci fosse sarcasmo. E l'attribuzione c'è, in

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa Ronde Gomitolo di Lana 2012

2012-10-19 Per discussione Carlo Stemberger
Il 19/10/2012 14:54, Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto: Non credo si colga il sarcasmo. Non c'era ombra di sarcasmo, infatti. Mi è giunta una risposta: ve la inoltro subito. Ciao! Carlo -- .-. | Registered Linux User #443882| .''`. oo| |

[Talk-it] Fwd: Re: Mappa Ronde Gomitolo di Lana 2012

2012-10-19 Per discussione Carlo Stemberger
Ecco la risposta. Ciao! Carlo Messaggio originale Oggetto:Re: Mappa Ronde Gomitolo di Lana 2012 Data: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:33:08 +0200 Mittente: Stefano Barbano barb...@libero.it A: Carlo Stemberger carlo.stember...@gmail.com Il 19/10/2012 12:20, Carlo

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa Ronde Gomitolo di Lana 2012

2012-10-19 Per discussione Cascafico Giovanni
Oops scusate: m'è proprio sfuggito. lo schermino dello smartphone m'ha tradito -- http://cascafico.altervista.org http://twitter.com/cascafico Il giorno 19/ott/2012 14.58, Alberto albi.m...@gmail.com ha scritto: Si la vedo anche io in alto a sx Il giorno 19 ottobre 2012 14:56, Luca Delucchi

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa Ronde Gomitolo di Lana 2012

2012-10-19 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/19 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: c'è l'attribuzione non è più quella corretta ma c'è! quello dipende dai dati che usano, se quelli sono cc-by-sa lo rimangono per sempre. L'unico ente che poteva far diventare dati cc-by-sa dei dati ODbL era la foundation (oppure il singolo

Re: [Talk-it] Tag per pagine di facebook

2012-10-19 Per discussione Salemme Guido
sempre più spesso le attività come ristoranti e cose del genere si creano una pagina facebook dove trovare i vari contatti e info per questo in mancanza di un sito volevo mettere la pagina ! penso che il sito è ancora più volatile mi è capitato spesso di inserire siti che dopo un pò non

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa Ronde Gomitolo di Lana 2012

2012-10-19 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il giorno 19/ott/2012 18:10, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2012/10/19 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: c'è l'attribuzione non è più quella corretta ma c'è! quello dipende dai dati che usano, se quelli sono cc-by-sa lo rimangono per sempre. L'unico ente che

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriverket har gett OSM tillstånd att föra databas

2012-10-19 Per discussione Hakan Karlsson
Allmänt, hur förväntas OSM veta om ett skyddsobjekt är med eller inte? De taggas v?ä inte direkt skyddsobjekt=yes? Jag tolkar beslutet att de ger oss tillstånd att föra databas och även publicera kartor över Sverige, så länge som vi inte tar med några skyddsobjekt som att en sådan tagg vore

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriverket har gett OSM tillstånd att föra databas

2012-10-19 Per discussione Mattias Lindblad
Ett problem är att lantmäteriets lista över objekt som inte får finnas med på kartor är kvalificerat hemlig. Därför kan de inte berätta för oss vilka specifika objekt som inte ska finnas med på någon karta. Och de lär bli ännu mindre glada om någon dessutom börjar märka ut hemliga installationer

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriverket har gett OSM tillstånd att föra databas

2012-10-19 Per discussione Bengt Bäverman
Jag tycker att grundfrågan kvarstår: Hur vet jag att ett stycke land innehåller eller är ett skyddsobjekt? Någon lista finns ju självklart inte. Andra publicerar dem ju, så andra kator är en dålig hjälp. Många karterar ju i OSM via satellit-bilder vilket gör att man inte se skylten som man

[Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues

2012-10-19 Per discussione Harald Kliems
Hi everyone, I've done some OSMInspector debugging of areas around Montreal and I've come across a number of newly imported natural=wetland areas, sourced from Canvec 10. that are clearly wrong. This, for example, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.69514lon=-73.90455zoom=17layers=M is a

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues

2012-10-19 Per discussione Pierre Béland
Harald,  I dont know how you conclude that there is no wetlands around this area in Laval.  It is not sufficient to see houses around to conclude that there is no wetland. These are often wooded areas with water all over.  Google physical also shows a stream starting from this area. The link

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues

2012-10-19 Per discussione Paul Norman
From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:04 AM To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues Hi everyone, I've done some OSMInspector debugging of areas around Montreal and I've come across a number of newly imported

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues

2012-10-19 Per discussione Harald Kliems
Hi Pierre, thanks for the response. On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Pierre Béland infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr wrote: I dont know how you conclude that there is no wetlands around this area in Laval. It is not sufficient to see houses around to conclude that there is no wetland. These are often

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues

2012-10-19 Per discussione Frank Steggink
On 19-10-2012 21:46, Harald Kliems wrote: Hi Pierre, thanks for the response. On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Pierre Béland infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr wrote: I dont know how you conclude that there is no wetlands around this area in Laval. It is not sufficient to see houses around to conclude

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues

2012-10-19 Per discussione Pierre Béland
Harald, I am not an expert either and it would be interesting to have the opinion of an expert. But I can say that a wetland is an area were the groundwater is at the surface of the soil. It can be grass or covered by forest.  For years you see no problems and pretend the situation do not

[Talk-ca] (no subject)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Clément Le Quintrec
Could you please unsubscribe me? Thank you! -- Clément Le Quintrec | (514) 692 8341 | ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

[OSM-talk-fr] [forum-osm-fr] Comment moyenner 2 trace GPX

2012-10-19 Per discussione forum
Le message suivant de : ## Bonjour, Je débute sur l'édition d'osm. J'ai fais cette randonnée en début de semaine : http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tioneb/traces/1338392 Je souhaite désormais ajouter ce sentier sur osm. J'utilise josm. Le début et la fin de la randonnée sont

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [RECH] Un contributeur pédagogue sur Belfort ?

2012-10-19 Per discussione partir-en-vtt
Ok ça roule, merci pour le retour et bonnes contributions -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/RECH-Un-contributeur-pedagogue-sur-Belfort-tp5731359p5731695.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [forum-osm-fr] Comment moyenner 2 trace GPX

2012-10-19 Per discussione Cedric Viou
Bonjour, Le début et la fin de la randonnée sont identique. J'ais donc deux traces qui se recoupent. Comment puis je moyenner les deux ? À l'œil!!! Ajoute un calque Bing ou une autre vue aérienne, tu y verras éventuellement ton sentier. Superpose tes traces. Tague ce que tu penses

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] JOSM : Annuler

2012-10-19 Per discussione Cedric Viou
Le 18/10/2012 23:18, Eric SIBERT a écrit : A propos de JOSM, ne pourrait-on pas changer le libellé du bouton qui apparaît durant l'upload des données. Interrompre plutôt que Annuler? Tout à fait d'accord. J'utilise svn pour versionner du soft et les changesets sont MONOLITHIQUES. Du coup,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Avez-vous utilisé des données de la ville de Toulouse ?

2012-10-19 Per discussione Romain MEHUT
Claire a fait remarquer sur Twitter que l'API temps réel TISSEO encourage dans sa documentation à la contribution à OSM: http://data.grandtoulouse.fr/web/guest/les-donnees/-/opendata/card/14505-api-temps-reel-tisseo On peut y lire ceci: *Les informations routières (noms de rues, numéros de rues,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Proposition de Frederik etait [OSM-talk] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione kimaidou
Bonjour, Je n'interviendrai pas sur le problème politique, car ils y a eu déjà assez de discussions, et je ne veux pas augmenter le bruit. Par contre, techniquement, si on commence à se dire qu'il faut améliorer l'outil JOSM, pourquoi ne pas trouver un moyen automatique (ou via les filtres,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Avez-vous utilisé des données de la ville de Toulouse ?

2012-10-19 Per discussione Christian Quest
C'est très bien d'inciter à contribuer, mais ça serait encore mieux de prendre en compte toutes les façons de tagguer des adresses: - relations associatedStreet ou pas - addr:housenumber sur un noeud ou un chemin 4 cas, c'est pas la mer à boire, là ils n'en gèrent visiblement qu'un et c'est

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Proposition de Frederik etait [OSM-talk] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Per discussione Christian Quest
Voire même: - un tri par JOSM avant envoi des données ayant un tag source=XXX du reste - un premier envoi avec le compte dédié qui va bien des nouvelles données identifiées par source=XXX en supprimant au passage le source=XXX sur les objets pour le mettre sur le changeset - un second envoi du

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