Re: feature request -- maybe
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Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote:'
DH Since when do journalists know more than other people. To get
DH the record straight, one of the themes I majored in was
DH international copyright.
DH And nitpicking about word meaning was another one.
moderator
For the second and last time. Will all those involved here, please
take this discussion which has gone completely out of control
off-list.
THANKS!
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Re: Windows Task Bar
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mogens Holst [MH] wrote:'
MH Latest problem (or is it a bug?) is that Windows (XP) task bar
MH disappears and I can see part of the wallpaper below the
MH maximized Bat!
MH I can, of course, bring it back by tapping one of the Windows
MH keys, but it disappears again once I start moving around in TB.
I don't see this.
Are you running any shell enhancing applications like WindowBlinds
or so? If so, disable it/them and see how it goes.
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Re: a fixed-width font for you to try out
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Maxxx [M] wrote:'
M Lately, out of lack of a reasonable monospaced font, I decided to
M take a whack at Softy the font editor, and create a font for my
M own use.
...
M So, here goes: http://maxxx.is-a-geek.org/termx.fon
It doesn't seem like a bad font, but I can't increase the size from
8 point. I use a high screen resolution so I use size 10 or 11
fonts. Usually font smoothing kicks in by then making them much
richer to look at. I currently use Lucida Console at size 10.
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Re: Prevent ISP Blocking X-mailer Header The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas F. [TF] wrote: TF What author? I thought we were talking about ISP's like Cogeco who TF filter on X-Mailer header. Have I missed something? He's referring to the author of ADS that fakes X-Mailer headers in it's mass mails, one of which is TB!'s. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9SMiCV8nrYCsHF+IRAtYZAJ4im1+BVU7gZzPh1GMmI2FUzuk2cACfYkB7 OEdV8wkN0ys+sP0SCx0itw0= =p1wR -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mass Mailing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Costas Papadopoulos [CP] wrote: CP Don't you use the little address book icon to the right of the CP To or BCC input box? That's what I do when I can't be bothered CP to open a specific template, but want to bulk-send a message to a CP group of friends. You want a separate message specifically addressed *only* to each recipient sent. That means no CC or BCC. Mass mailing does this. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9RIUFV8nrYCsHF+IRAlg6AKDFa7U1s16ubA9G8Hbt6BCctTQDPACfdVGL lVaQrBEyQQ54EMXUPou1Nx8= =zXbo -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Control of virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dean [D] wrote: D I tried using the BAV AV for NOD and I couldn't use NOD To delete D the file that way either. Open for suggestions. In the plugin settings there's a drop down menu for choosing what to do with infected messages. Removing infected parts is one of the options. Have you tried that option? - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9RJTjV8nrYCsHF+IRAjI4AKDAVzFh+5fnf1hY348vsZt8RMOpqgCgzfJW VRgr6Whj0K7iKzdycKMFoW0= =scm+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Becky 2.05 V The Bat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel Hirning [DH] wrote: DH Just wondering what everyones thoughts are on the latest version DH of Becky...??? I tried Becky and find it to be an interesting, functional client. My main problem with it is that I can't browse multiple folders concurrently. This limitation affects me like a brick wall. It just gets in my way and was the reason why I stopped testing it. The filtering is limited though most would be satisfied with it's current capabilities. I've been spoilt though and enjoy TB!'s superior filtering. Becky's editor is more contemporary and more functional than most Windows based e-mail client editors. I, however, *much* prefer TB!'s. I think TB!'s current editor is more suited to e-mail composing than most contemporary editors. Becky just strikes me as a shadow of TB! (though not a fleeting one). Each major feature or design that is meaningful to me is similar but not as advanced as TB!'s. So Becky is certainly not rubbish. It's just not as powerful as TB!. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj0a5xgACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KoVgCgs8q+ZOliicMyfxBsG6Bz2GPR BIwAnRB2yCv+RbrEsoDyAmI0UlTXoq4p =Z2ve -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filtering [ was Re: Becky 2.05 V The Bat]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Syafril Hermansyah [SH] wrote: I've been spoilt though and enjoy TB!'s superior filtering. SH If you everlook how Evolution or Sylpheed-claws filter (don't mentioned SH about procmail, it is the top one but difficult for newbie) you will SH feel different :-) Probably. But isn't this a comparison of Becky and TB!? :-) Also, I run Windows and not Linux/Unix. I'm quite convinced that I'm using the best solution that is available for Windows if you require a powerful, robust, flexible and configurable client. SH IMHO Mail Ticker and Template in TB! are the two beeing SH discuss as a dream in linux MUA. Can't do without them now. :-) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj0bCkgACgkQV8nrYCsHF+Lt6wCfSwfeMEXNq74nE4e+OU31HULy kz0An1x4X51/OWtUUrcG9Rj0SeOBJDFR =K4wq -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: test
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas F. [TF] wrote: TF I agree it is more than just OT, and will follow the tiniest hint TF of the moderators to move this to TBOT. My other reason to use TF this list is that I am testing batpost.com. Yes, please move it. This is a beta list. If there are no betas then the traffic should be low and those who wish to have only beta related traffic as beta list only subscribers won't take kindly to an off-topic discussion. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj0UYmsACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LlqgCeJQkjZ2Vxx/Eo7Mhvx/rwj3f4 dEMAn3IuJ4Wxw1RhG5ARjzpzxr3eS7mK =Hjnv -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Bug: SMTP dialog
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Schoch [MS] wrote: JP So there is no bug. If you prefer to have a hostname in there JP (why would you want to?!), then set it in the right properties, JP namely the TCP/IP properties. MS Can you say me exactly where. I think this is what they're referring to: In Win95, you can go into the network properties and then bring up the properties for tcp/ip-dialup adapter. Go to the DNS tab and enable DNS. Put the host name as the machine name and put in your ISP DNS server addresses. Done. In Win2k, things don't seem to be as straight-forward. I don't see a place to enter a host name. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj0LKDAACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KP6gCg7obKEY0HGP7Fx9FnLzDpS3Ij AcIAn1BYX4HPWJTJJRUdXScDrqQo3+r6 =D0T2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: filter strings import
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Graham Foster [GF] wrote: GF Text file is of the format.. Make sure there are no blank lines in that file. That's the only thing I can add. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE9Bye9V8nrYCsHF+IRAvLfAJ0dugemRvA5ZVSViqRC2rJIiw5wDgCfZYhm O/DP+pHQtbHfs6OpkN59huY= =YISG -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.60n
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gene Gough [GG] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... GG actually that ULR should have been GG http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb60n.zip Yet another correction. :-) http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb160n.zip - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60n | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8984rV8nrYCsHF+IRAoy6AKDBh4qratHKsuP0TYO0zO6VQ1isuACgynmD N7JX4OiR0pDwQGHEh+dZYDo= =ECD7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: new account POP problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck Smith [CS] wrote: ... CS I know the account is setup right and my username and password is CS correct. I can access mail with webmail or Outlook Express without CS any problems. I even tried to setup a new account identical to my CS main account but cannot successfully connect. CS I even installed TB!1.53 but the problems is the same so I am not CS sure it is a BETA problem but someone please help. Which firewall are you running? This sounds like a firewall problem. Typical of ZoneAlarm specifically to cause TB! problems. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE87sPJV8nrYCsHF+IRAnq5AJ4rT3K6mJ596/Jg31B5XqTb8VL5+ACfbF9Y 08ZpcyQhRScGYRB+DGgAz/0= =J1Et -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: new account POP problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck Smith [CS] wrote: ... ACM Which firewall are you running? This sounds like a firewall problem. ACM Typical of ZoneAlarm specifically to cause TB! problems. CS I am using Zonealarm. Bingo. CS Is there a work around? CS I disabled Zonealarm and the problem still persist. The real solution would be to immediately and without prejudice, uninstall ZoneAlarm and get a new firewall solution. There are other firewalls out there that are as effective and are less likely to interfere. May I suggest either Kerio Personal Firewall (free for personal use), Sygate Personal Firewall (free for personal use) or BlackICE (if you're willing to spend some cash). The other solution would be to add your POP and SMTP servers as trusted machines in your ZA configuration. This only worked for a while when I was in your exact position. Your beginning to see the start of problems. I'll bail out now. ZA seems to work for some but your system isn't one of them. :-/ The part that bugs me is how these personal firewalls are so commonly to blame for connectivity problems that TB! is assumed to be the cause of. It usually takes some time, after much user frustration for the real culprit to be discovered. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE87s/jV8nrYCsHF+IRAp6bAJ4jlnkuSRSYvOK/pYKh9l8p5krHSwCfTWoe 45+LgYDPFYlxBsrxrjJKLRo= =tPaN -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: new account POP problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck Smith [CS] wrote: ... CS I am alittle confused. If ZA is the problem should mail retriaval CS work with ZA turned off? It works with ZA uninstalled. The only way to really get ZA out of the picture is to uninstall it. When it blocks connections in this way, it does so whether or not it's disabled. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE87tkEV8nrYCsHF+IRAobJAKDab1xsnP3zd2WjuIgtqP2i6eldkwCg5HZC JQuWIch2JQqe4AwLRd1vbIg= =/pRu -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Odd behaviour with scroll button
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick Andriash [NA] wrote: ... NA No, the problem exists. Somehow TB conflicts with MS Mouse NA Drivers... so there are quite a few of us that experience that NA problem of multiple line scrolling. I have had to revert way back NA to 1.53t to make TB even usable. BTW, for the record in case there are any just tuning in on this issue, Nick could change the mouse drivers as well (Logitechs Mouseware is compatible with many mice including the one he uses), but he has elected to go way back to v1.53t. His choice, but not by any means, the only one. :-) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE87C3ZV8nrYCsHF+IRAhGxAJ4l+DHcpAP255Ecz6/+pe3dT/KlUwCdHis8 BQ9T0AC7x4rLK0XFxemAsa0= =KIkH -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Odd behaviour with scroll button
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick Andriash [NA] wrote: ... NA True, but ever since v1.60, TB has conflicted with MS Mouse NA Drivers and RITLabs have elected to ignore the problem. Their NA choice, but not my any means, the only one. :o) Slick. :-))) I wonder who's the problem here though. I've been in this situation before. It could go either way. Was version 1.53t created before Ritlabs started using the new Delphi version (I can't remember)? Is TB! the only Delphi based application you have installed Nick? - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE87FRvV8nrYCsHF+IRAiIeAJ9y9n5fkhV+O9ivkqdO/BL+1EJb1gCbBkJ0 /Ce/8DrDu3hkEHiE0cxY2XY= =s6Fb -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: IncrediMail Xe and The Bat! - lack of compability
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Schwartmann [AS] wrote: ... AS No harm intended. I actually meant to use boy like pal, buddy. Ok, sigh of relief, but please remember that there isn't a friendly face with the appropriate expressions behind the words you type. You have to avoid what could potentially offend others and you certainly came across negatively when I read it and it can easily be interpreted as such. People tend to think the worse in what you write so it's better to keep the prose 'safe' from misunderstanding. I know we can never be perfect on this, but you know what I mean, eh? - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60h | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80Jr+V8nrYCsHF+IRAvu6AJ0QeJ6ea+Sjl3GLIZM2LwSwCQnKIACgi1gk h8RiAO3ijn4U0Qh7ffL9DsY= =Rgk5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: NOD32.BAV - Flash Activation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joseph N. [JN] wrote: ... JN 2. Where did you get the NOD32 BAV? ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | ®TB! v1.60c | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8zB+yV8nrYCsHF+IRAoCBAKDE8zeM0HA+JwG/Uq28leDxwZNtiACghiC4 1C6iwI5pPHvstxE67nUG/0M= =8mpm -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Lack of scroll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In a message dated, Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:49:04 +0200, Gene Gough [GG] wrote: ... GG I think that this is a bug. Not always but enough to be very GG frustrating you can cause the top of your typing when composing a GG note to scroll off the top. NO SCROLL handles appear and the only GG way to get it back is to use the up arrow key to move back to the GG top of the screen and then it scrolls the screen down so that you GG can what you just typed. This behaviour is as a result of TB!'s editors free caret. You can put it anywhere in the editor and start typing. If you scroll downwards until your text is no longer visible, the scroll-bar will not appear until you type something, otherwise you're just in virtual document space and there's no real reason for the scroll-bar. If you find yourself down there and wish to get back up, just hit CTRL-Home. - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end user PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2Body=%20 ®TB! v1.60c on Windows XP 5.1.2600 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8ud8yV8nrYCsHF+IRAiZuAJ9qD+KfUifzVRoBU9l1zD04mNcokQCg55Vs kk9+5QSKaFXJO1dz8l+IMbk= =L0gL -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: TB! 1.60c scrollbar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 20:19:01 +0200 [ Sun, 7 Apr 2002], Enrico Straube [ES] wrote these words of wisdom: ... ES I have some strange scrollbars. I don't know how to do it again ES but I want to inform you. Look at the picture. I don't see what's strange. :-/ - -- Allie C Martin (List Moderator and fellow end user) PGP Public Key - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ®TB! v1.60c on Windows XP 5.1.2600 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAjywlKEACgkQV8nrYCsHF+ID3gCg8gbOm722iFq+c/X7gF+vPeSG nOcAoPqMKC0G2wDbpoY6qG+oPfE8mW+R =TwfT -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: TB! 1.60c scrollbar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 21:23:39 +0200 [ Sun, 7 Apr 2002], Lars Geiger [LG] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... LG I think that Enrico meant the missing arrow at the lower end of LG the scroll bar. LG I can't confirm this here. Not here either. - -- Allie C Martin (List Moderator and fellow end user) PGP Public Key - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ®TB! v1.60c on Windows XP 5.1.2600 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAjywpngACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LO0gCgtH2pB80m8hHJN0NjOYAZhRw5 Xz0Anir5h9RPkkVa81goBwM1HIelKFyx =oNsv -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Pick e-mail address window and autocompletion problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 06:35:49 -0800 [ Sun, 31 Mar 2002], John Sherman [JS] wrote these words of wisdom: ... JS Actually, I've never been able to resize the address book window. Is that the main address book window to which you're referring? - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [MUA: TB! v1.60c (*) OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjynIlAACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LfEgCeOwy2YWKm8mwiDdUw8hO/90Rr mFUAoMJhqc+YdF6Dp/vMTvvFXJlwEqMD =Scgl -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Pick e-mail address window and autocompletion problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 12:03:39 -0500 [ Sun, 31 Mar 2002], Jan Rifkinson [JR] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... Allie You can still adjust the size of the subwindows. If you Allie increase the size of the name list, you'll see that you can Allie display more than just the name and also the e-mail addresses. Allie [...] JR Thanks, Allie. I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say JR 'subwindow'. JR I can expand the AB. That I use, having widened the display to JR include columns in addition to the email address. I guess it's time for a screenshot. :-) The screenshot shows the window which I'm referring to. Notice how I've increased the size of the left sub-window to show the e-mail address as well. I'd love to now increase the size of the whole window so that I can increase the size of the right sub-window. I had done this some time ago with a previous version. I can't do it now. - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [MUA: TB! v1.60c (*) OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjynSqUACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IaRQCgvR6EQ+JWRDkJi+lU+d+WE2bx paEAoODDwc/J1QxJMuXCuIxwASMyhKh/ =EA+p -END PGP SIGNATURE- pickemail.png Description: PNG image
Re: PGP support broken?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 13:34:00 +0100 [ Sat, 30 Mar 2002], Peter Meyns [PM] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... PM Ok, I don't use that. I find the plugin for PGP working quite PM well. What has happened to GnuPG support in TB!? I can't get it PM working any more. What problems are you having? I use the GnuPG plugin for almost all my message signing and signature checking. - -- Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= TB! v1.60c Windows XP 5.1.2600 __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjylzfYACgkQV8nrYCsHF+Ls2wCgxHOa4Kr1SBtZDCx/c1erv7NQ 4GEAn1nOzp68RnEEzHp6+WRRgt9HamnI =wPUb -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: PGP/GnuPG in 1.60
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 20:09:02 +0100 [ Mon, 25 Mar 2002], Peter Meyns [PM] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... PM the plugin for PGP 6.5.8 works well here. With GnuPG however, there PM are some problems. TB! lets me sign messages with GPG, but it PM refuses to encrypt or decrypt, the error msg telling me that the key PM was not found (although it is in my keyring). I can encrypt to PM myself, though. GPGShell de- or encrypts without problems. PM Anything on my side that I can do? TB!'s plug-in has smart-matching hard coded into how it works. What this means is that for signing, it will only do so if it finds on your keyring, a key with an associated UID that perfectly matches the From: address in the message headers. When I say perfect match, I mean name and e-mail address *together*. For instance, if your keys UID is 'Jasper Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]', TB!'s plugin will not sign if you fill in your messages 'from:' address as 'Jasper [EMAIL PROTECTED]'. You have to add the latter identity as another UID. This is why I have a list of UID's on my main key: Allie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Allie C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Allie C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The advantage of this system applies when you have multiple keys. With this smartmatching system, the plug-in will autosign with the appropriate key instead of a default key as in PGP. I have an alternate key for this list with the UID 'allie_M [EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Signing of messages to this list is template driven and the correct key to sign with is always appropriately chosen. The encryption/decryption of messages follows a similar system. An UID match must occur before the encryption decryption process is done. Otherwise you'll receive an error message. A typical example is that you're replying to a message from someone who's public key doesn't include their reply to name/address combo as a UID. I don't see any advantages of including smart-matching in encryption/decryption operations. Let the user select the relevant keys. If it's the correct key then the person at the other end will be able to decrypt it. If you choose the wrong key to decrypt with, then the message will not decrypt. Simple. I don't know what's with the smart matching and I tend to just use GPG Shell for this. However, I find the plugin very nice for signing and signature checking once you are aware of how it works and add your identities, which you should anyway. - -- Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= TB! v1.60 Windows XP 5.1.2600 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyfiCcACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KavQCgrUwZUoRRXPAiUQk161Ihgda2 fTgAoNK6lliW5M3xRdROGZSgnXLIUJ3A =uKf4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: PGP/GnuPG in 1.60
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 13:21:41 -0600 [ Mon, 25 Mar 2002], Joseph N. [JN] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... JN My experience is that one is better off using GnuPG through the JN GPGshell tray program than with The Bat's plug-in. Reliability is JN better and the options are greater. The possibilities are greater if you use both together, taking advantage of each of their strengths. In this way, I actually much prefer using GPG to PGP at present. My only problem is the key auto-retrieval problem that GPG has when run on NT-based systems. JN I found some of TB's menu options didn't produce with GnuPG, Yes. The plugin isn't that developed to include these components and I suspect this is so because the existence of GPG Shell is known. :-) JN including poor key management. You can't manage keys via the TB! plugin. You have to use the GPG CLI. JN The tray options do not produce exta work, just extra control. Well, mostly yes. However, if you're in the habit of signing a lot of messages in a predictable fashion, nothing beats setting this up to be automated and forgetting about it, especially if you use multiple keys. GPG Shell doesn't offer this automation, but TB!'s plugin does. :-) - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [MUA: TB! v1.60 (*) OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyfid4ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LpLgCfU5rFRl83EvlYDXXtZUdWGEyV TEgAoLwCG7axj9IgEUJNGe0BGYuNw2gw =h2Fz -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Right time for a statement?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 10:02:51 +0100 [ Sat, 23 Mar 2002], Dierk Haasis [DH] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... DH Actually I was the first one who interpreted statements of RITLabs DH as meaning we are in the beta phase of v2. And it was Marck who DH corroborated on a purely conjectural basis. I don't think it was purely conjectural. It's just that Ritlabs will change their minds about things as they did with their intended release in December and their decision not to give this new release, release number 1.54. - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [MUA: TB! v1.60 (*) OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjycfCkACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KixQCgykmrysvZW3jSOKpEZpTmNFuL Mu0AoJhKqeOjtT3/FM0j/qDgEsMb3mdv =rwcH -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Bug with Mailticker?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 12:31:43 -0500 [ Fri, 22 Mar 2002], Carsten Guthardt-Schulz [CGS] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... CGS Whenever a new message arrives and the mailticker is displayed, I CGS have to double-click very hard on this ticker to open the CGS message. hard means I have to doubleclick several times and it CGS takes long until the message opens. When the ticker appears, it will first scroll through the part that tells you how many new messages there are. When this is being shown, the ticker will not open and I guess this is when you're clicking away and wondering what is happening. As the ticker scrolls to the left, the left boundary for the first message header summary will go off the screen. It's from then that the ticker messages can be opened from the ticker. The ticker again becomes unresponsive when the left boundary of the message tally reaches the left edge of the ticker and it remains unresponsive until the right boundary of the message tally reaches the left boundary of the ticker. - -- Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= TB! v1.60 RC/2 Windows XP 5.1.2600 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjybeucACgkQV8nrYCsHF+ISHQCgoohOq7bcFZDvWFhhqhTz6Mvi YIYAoIla+LhOkH9idXPT0FeZ3FUXOPn1 =qKZX -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 RC/1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In a message dated, Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:50:42 +0100 (CET), Marek Mikus [MM] wrote: ... MM One wish: Don't You want to change number of new version to 1.6 for MM example? There are _many_ big improvements from 1.53, so version MM number should more grow up. There is good reason for this. I know MM about many users, which tried TB 1 year ago and told me about bad MM import from MS OE structure, missing SSL, fixed fonts etc. For many MM users is no reason to check TB's new version, if is only little MM version number change. This is the biggest upgrade in TB's history MM and version should be related to this. I agree with this completely. You can't ignore human perception. - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [MUA: TB! v1.54 RC/1 (*) OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyYmLgACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KegwCgnIp6C5tGpGsfrNXK9yAkjYyS ElgAnjOtuj+ahTj4seaI2vDI641oEJqh =wS18 -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: various bugs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:59:57 +0100, Peter Palmreuther [PP] wrote these comments: ... JW 4) Undoing selecting by word in a header field is messed up. I.e., PP ACK. Somebody explained this are the Delphi components not PP supporting the 'de-facto standard' for selecting :-/ Unless these PP edit-field components are not replaced I think there will be no PP solutions for this. But replacing them might introduce another few PP bug which would block a hopefully soon coming RC ... :-/ How about this minor annoyance. :-) When pasting text in the header fields for messages, they are pasted in a selected state, so you have to hit an arrow key to deselect the pasted text before you can continue typing. Is there a reason for pasted text in the header fields being in a selected state? - -- Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= TB! v1.54 Beta/49 Windows XP 5.1.2600 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyVr/4ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JgVgCcCCjKLT8a1cXInxNlMlMKlqG9 nt0AoKAXRt9JGVr/S/xXuBTzHTvytBPt =66S0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/49
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In a message dated, Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:04:02 +0100, Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote: ... uhhh.. one of us is a little bit confused here. I've always used ctrl+shift+Del to delete entire threads, not single messages. DH It's not mutually exclusive. One message is also one thread. And why DH should one use two different keystrokes if one suffices. I thought a thread comprised two or more messages? - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/49 (*) OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyVs3AACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LQWQCgxGspK7PHzDWs2FzbgApxVfi7 GIAAnji9957gf+zg/fNa4GvEQIC8cgQn =DAWw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Flags Settings Bug, or ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 11:12:08 +0300 [ Mon, 18 Mar 2002], Oleg Polishchuk [OP] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... OP Select any message, then go to: OP Message - Flags - Replied (Forwarded/Redirected) OP You can select them, but you can't UN_select them... OP From Select Message, Right click - Flags - all OK !!! OP Can anyone confirm this behavior ? Yes. But it only happens with the main windows 'Message' menu. It works fine with the Folder View Windows' 'Message' menu. - -- Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= TB! v1.54 Beta/49 Windows XP 5.1.2600 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyVsSoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JWJQCg2Wl7LkWNj+6kwROLXZC1kNVf Pz8Ani9i9ayD7ueGI7JqdTlDIXlGzUBt =yXVw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Why no release.txt??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 08:40:09 -0800, Nick Andriash [NA] wrote these comments: ... NA The point though that I think Jonathan was trying to make was that NA we shouldn't have to, as it's been his experience... and mine to be NA honest... that most all other Program Betas do have a running NA Release.txt file that highlights the ongoing development cycle. Do you mean most other program betas or most other program full release versions? Ritlabs dutifully includes an updated development history text file with every full release version of TB!. The file is in the installation directory and is called readme.txt. NA Might be something for RITLabs to consider doing as it can be a NA great PR vehicle... and something to post to TBUDL every once in a NA while just to let them know that development is indeed ongoing. Perhaps something on their website. But I don't think this is really necessary. I don't think there's any TB! user who doesn't know that development is ongoing. :-) Ritlabs' method of providing beta update information is quite acceptable. In its present form it will only be available to list subscribers who are the only ones that should be testing the beta anyway. - -- Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= TB! v1.54 Beta/49 Windows XP 5.1.2600 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyUzdgACgkQV8nrYCsHF+I3LgCfb621ygecJcHrPkA2YvlCqd9X hxoAoLIOGVxaS24PfVvKbE7Nm3wFzNzG =xPHA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/49
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 10:59:11 -0600, Joseph N. [JN] graced us with these comments: ... It's very odd that none of the accounts were selected. JN This happens to me occasionally. I think it is due to TB! getting JN loaded without the account that was last selected. For example, I JN have two accounts in one group that is usually what I load. But, JN occasionally, I will just load one of those accounts. If I load one JN account which is not the account that was selected the last time I JN loaded the group, then no account will be selected. At least, I JN think that's how it occurs; I actually haven't tried to reproduce JN it. All I know is that I can try all day to retrieve mail, but JN nothing at all happens until I select the account. Hmmm. I see. From your description you seem to be using TB! with multiple users loading it as a different user with different accounts being displayed for each user. This is very likely a bug confined to a multiple user environment. I don't run a multiple user environment here and this is likely why I haven't run into the problem. I always start TB! with the same accounts being displayed, i.e., all accounts. - -- | Allie Martin - Moderator ox|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/49 Windows XP 5.1.2600 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyTe7oACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LeLQCgkLU1wUMdCztFzA2lsjTDRXpC BkYAn1pIEjRW3aLn+xBnhsv0Gnj9eONn =5MRo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/49
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 12:00:07 -0600, Joseph N. [JN] graced us with these comments: ... JN While a mutli-user environment would more likely result in the JN problem we're discussing, that's not how it arises for me. My JN configuration is as follows: one separate user with one account; one JN group with two accounts, neither of which is that separate user I JN first mentioned. I usually load the group with both accounts, but JN sometimes I will load just one account or the other. As I say, I'm JN not really sure how the problem develops, but I think it's due to JN the settings when the program was last used. What you describe is what I mean by a multi-user environment. You can log on to TB! as different users, even though you are the one using all the accounts for your own specific purposes. - -- // \\ _\\()//_ Allie C Martin / // \\ \List Moderator and fellow end user | \__/ | TB! v1.54 Beta/49 Windows XP 5.1.2600 - PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyTiacACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KBOQCgisQnAVeNH7FCDrGJX3si283h beQAn301uxLLKUDNb0c3IJ/g8K+6kyfn =b97H -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: RTV and cursor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 18:48:52 +0100 [ Sat, 16 Mar 2002], Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote these words of wisdom: ... DH I just tried to see if a sig delimiter in a message is correctly DH formed. Since I use the RTV at the moment I couldn't do it because DH My cursor, were is my cursor?, cried Alice and shook her mouse DH fiercely. It would seem that the RTV's window behaves just like that of a browser where you don't have a cursor. You have to select text with the mouse. :-( - -- | Allie Martin - Moderator ox|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/49 Windows XP 5.1.2600 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyTiUMACgkQV8nrYCsHF+Lt5wCeIND+NEYtZkeKEF7EjTPJvkAv 1/AAoMg7gcHDOE9e9lXhC2o0ENEglVpK =pqVd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Poll: Is 154/49 an RC?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 20:04:32 +0200, Pete [P] wrote these comments: ... P Pick a long message and read it using space to scroll it. P With PTV the last line of text in view will be the first line in view P when you hit space. I know exactly what you're talking about here. With the plain text viewer, reading with the scrollbar is something one can easily become accustomed to and quite adept at since it does the same thing *everytime* you hit the space bar. You expect everytime for you to be scrolled so that the last line at the bottom of the previous page becomes the first line of the next. Your eyes therefore dart to the top of the screen to continue reading the next page. You know exactly where to continue reading. However, some people get irrationally rabid when scrolling is allowed to occur beyond the end of the message. Users as these managed to convince the MicroPlanet Gravity developers to block scrolling beyond the end of a message. What this created was a serious problem. You never really knew for sure where the next spacebar scroll would take you. If the next page consisted of only three lines of text, the space bar would only scroll you three lines down. If there are only ten lines left, you are scrolled ten lines downwards. You therefore have to just look for where to continue reading each time you hit the scroll-bar. You cannot develop a learned behaviour of quickly moving your eyes to the top of the screen each time you hit the scroll-bar. The Gravity developers said they understood what I was saying and agreed but they made the change because of user demand and were reluctant to change it back. That was that I have since used Agent instead, which space bar scrolls the correct way. P But RTV is trying to do something different. Indeed it does. This is why I've abandoned space bar scrolling when using the RTV. I just scroll. P After hitting space you don't get the last line being the first, P no. You get the *next* line. You actually get exactly one page. If only the top half of a line of text is visible at the bottom of the page, it's the lower of the same line of text that is at the top of the next page. P OK, sort of, if you trust the programme doesn't skip any lines. I P don't, so I'd really like to see the PTV behaviour in RTV too. It's uneasy not being able to read the last line of the last page. Even the last 2 lines, but some of the last page should be displayed and in a predictable fashion. However, I can sympathise to some extent since it's a RTV which means that it can display text with different font sizes and types. It's therefore very difficult if not impossible to make the scroll-bar scrolling as exact as it is with the fixed width viewer that is designed to use only one font type at a time. My heart is with the fixed width viewer for this reason. It's definitely a give and take thing. P But the worst thing is that on a lengthy message you're bound to bump P in a situation where you see only the upper half of a line on the P bottom of the window and when you hit the space you see the lower P half of that same line on the top of the window! Arrgghhh!! I feel your pain. I think you have to stick with the plain text viewer if you can't give up using the scroll-bar for reading. - -- | Allie Martin - Moderator ox|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/49 Windows XP 5.1.2600 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyTkYQACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JCaQCbBJCGpBtoMA/VrlYS+3tDsNGf QYYAoMtUOs2OaPyQ1OJBzNDvJh+y4bAl =8l+2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Re-direct Behavior/v48
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:28:13 -0500, Richard M. Newman [RMN] wrote these comments: ... I just tried the redirect option and it still works as I expect it to. The only difference is that I no longer see the X-Sender header. RMN I guess we disagree on this because we don't agree on what RMN re-direct is. RMN I think re-direct (as in v 1.53) should redirect the message so the RMN new receipient can hit reply and reply directly to the original RMN sender. But this is what it does in the current betas. The original sender is the one who originally sent the message, not the one who redirected it, and this is denoted in the 'From:' header. If you check you'll see that the 'From' address is the same in the original message and the redirected message. In a forwarded message, the From address is changed from that of the original sender to that of the person doing the forwarding. A reply to the forwarded message is automatically addressed to the person who forwarded the message. RMN I get mail the is directed/intended for other people RMN @newmangroup.com but the address is not 100% correct. Well this isn't the clients fault and how is TB! supposed to know this. If you redirect the message, TB! will dutifully leave the incorrect address as the 'From:' address. RMN If I re-direct the message to the intended person and the RMN intended person replies by hitting reply in whatever e-mail program RMN they are using, Bat 1.54 v48 or now v49, will make their reply come RMN to me or nowhere automatically if the account Reply-To is empty. The reply will be addressed to the incorrect address and not to you. What should the reply address be changed to anyway. How is TB! to know what the correct reply-to address is. It certainly cannot be your address. Why generate a reply-to header when the From header is already there and the From address is the intended address for replies to be sent? RMN Bat 1.53 will put the original sender in reply-to automatically so RMN the intended person's reply goes to the original sender. Bounce RMN in Pocomail works the same way. I don't know how similar functions RMN work in other e-mail programs. This is how it works here. RMN By my interpretation of what re-direct should be (it should RMN invisibly re-direct the mail), Beta/4849 breaks automatic RMN redirecting and only creates a work around to allow it to perform RMN however you would like. Automatic redirecting!! Oho. I've been testing with manual redirecting. Let's see. Again, it seems to work fine for me. The redirection works OK in that the From header still contains the same information as in the original message. Upon hitting reply, the new message is addressed to the From address of the original message. The only evidence that the message was redirected by me is in the header line: Resent-from: Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] RMN Guess the answer really lies in, what do the developers intend RMN re-direct to accomplish? As currently implemented, it is just RMN forwarding without template type information and FWD: added to RMN the subject. I disagree. Here's an example. I forwarded a delivery failure message from my mail server back to myself and here are the headers. I highlighted the important ones: Received: from spooler by alliem.ac-martin.com (Mercury/32 v3.30); 15 Mar 02 13:58:18 -0500 X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from acmartin (192.168.0.2) by alliem.ac-martin.com (Mercury/32 v3.30) with ESMTP ID MG59; 15 Mar 02 13:58:11 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:58:21 -0500 **From: Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] **X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/49) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Subject: Fwd: Postmaster Notify: Delivery Failure. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--689B4C3BB98C28 I then redirected the message and here are the headers for it: Received: from spooler by alliem.ac-martin.com (Mercury/32 v3.30); 15 Mar 02 13:54:27 -0500 X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from acmartin (192.168.0.2) by alliem.ac-martin.com (Mercury/32 v3.30) with ESMTP ID MG57; 15 Mar 02 13:54:25 -0500 Received: from spooler by alliem.ac-martin.com (Mercury/32 v3.30); 15 Mar 02 01:40:51 -0500 X-Envelope-To: Electronic Postmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***From: Electronic Postmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 1:40:40 -0500 ***Subject: Postmaster Notify: Delivery Failure. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary=17152.954223170 ***Resent-from: Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did this with filters so that I could check how the auto-redirecting works. - -- // \\ _\\()//_ Allie C Martin / // \\ \List Moderator and fellow end user | \__/ | TB! v1.54 Beta/49 Windows XP 5.1.2600
Re: Icons changed around?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 14:14:31 + [ Thu, 14 Mar 2002], Tony Boom [TB] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... ACM i.e., the send now button is to the left of the put in outbox ACM button. TBEr no, the other way round Ali. TB A reminder of what Carsten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: TB 14 March 2002 at 13:16:56 GMT +0100 CT The positions of these icons depend on your account settings. TB Well that explains it then :) I didn't know this until now. The buttons do switch around when I switch to deferred delivery. However, the mentioned bug about the buttons switching around still doesn't occur here. - -- // \\ _\\()//_ Allie C Martin / // \\ \List Moderator and fellow end user | \__/ | TB! v1.54 Beta/47 Windows XP 5.1.2600 - PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyQ/kAACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LC6gCg1HugZn69yr2JQlfs+aCXV7MK sugAnAgbNdr8rxxbgeehcMsZTEN8Ra+L =zFPo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Message List Style and XP (was Re: 1.54 Beta/48)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 20:15:52 +0100 [ Thu, 14 Mar 2002], Raymund Thomas Tump [RTT] wrote these words of wisdom: ... [-] Some cosmetics RTT Starting with Beta 47 the message pane is in old style again on RTT Windows XP. I think they switched back to the old method of display because of the bugs with the icon display on the column headers. I hope they either keep it that way and change back the column headers of the folder tree pane to pre-XP as well or get the XP look going again. The inconsistency is grating. - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/48 (*) OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyRAWcACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LEwgCdF1t5HmGQiFq8N9XVdUVTVPYO 3jsAoM7EleD7LK4cprgLdtpuRoSiZS0u =U1zL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Adding Names to the FROM-Field list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 19:29:46 +0100 [ Wed, 13 Mar 2002], Peter Palmreuther [PP] wrote these words of wisdom: ... PP What Allie suggested wasn't a hidden, top-secret, shortcut, but PP simple the way you access menu-items by using the keyboard :-) Tony, you didn't try it?? ;-) - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/47 (*) OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyPru0ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LAHwCghHdqr8cfg04DOTsuGzM2PkNS OtQAnA/+7UPJdUilRlI27MVOd15PBZlS =jKV0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: To Rar or Not Rar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 02:03:56 -0600, Dean [D] wrote these comments: ... D just a small compact thought. In saving bandwith, how much did we D save in discussing to Rar3 or Rar2;) I get the distinct impression that it's specifically the Ritlabs server bandwidth that they're concerned about and not just bandwidth in general. D Also noticed that in previous three or four betas I was able to click D on the To or CC field when in preview mode and I had an option of D posting to that person or... seems to have disappeared in 47. I did D like that option. Works here just fine. - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/47 (*) OS: WinXP Home] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyN37gACgkQV8nrYCsHF+K8LQCfSJ19tpUe3BeGDEAQfJnOazNu IngAnjOEsfkFmKsXHlwtwcdBTFpMLp+G =/d4E -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: To Rar or Not Rar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 12:40:43 +0100 [ Tue, 12 Mar 2002], Dieter Hummel [DH] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... I get the distinct impression that it's specifically the Ritlabs server bandwidth that they're concerned about and not just bandwidth in general. DH Which is important enough when you have to _pay_ for bandwidth. DH I have to pay $100-150 additional for bandwidth each month. Thus DH considerung to lower bandwidth is essential to save some money. I have no problem with this as such. I just made the comment in light of so many complaining that Ritlabs is not saving *them* any bandwidth. Ritlabs is concerned about only *their own* bandwidth. This is why beta testers having to download another application to use the beta goes down OK for them. - -- Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/47 WinXP Home Ed. PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyN7L4ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LF+gCgvLei72+LlO0I+rcbjBNVUrei 5CYAoLf5Mx7X9GCSAAogPkr5//YURMby =RZhD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Errors when changing RTF Viewer fonts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I keep getting the error message 'Incorrect parameter' when changing fonts for the RTF Viewer. Anyone else experiencing this? - -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/46 (*) OS: WinXP Home] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyM+ZMACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LNmwCcCWyp+ysMLCVqg04/P7gLeVt7 EUcAn0c0i+oK2lfq9Wy65v7wRoVvLBCz =IzpH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Errors when changing RTF Viewer fonts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In a message dated, Mon, 11 Mar 2002 19:57:17 +0100, Peter Palmreuther [PP] wrote: ... ACM I keep getting the error message 'Incorrect parameter' when ACM changing fonts for the RTF Viewer. Anyone else experiencing this? PP No. And since a long time changing the font size applies PP immediately. Just to clarify. The font changes are made as I go along. It's just that for each font change I get this popup error dialog that I have to be hitting OK for to get rid of it. - -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/46 WinXP Home Ed. PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyNBmAACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LPlgCg/Q1Zs5uVkUOnN2Yk3Q4nDqUQ zQcAn3NUwltgwJjTvQ8VZP5k0/TzENJE =VOhU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Different bugs in Beta 22 found
@ 14:00:25 + [ Fri, 4 Jan 2002], Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... What is SmartPad used for ? MDP Collecting information in a handy central location from multiple MDP sources. I use it to paste in bits of very long spams to piece MDP together a hybrid summary of the UCE for pasting to SpamCop. That MDP reduces the amount of fuel I use in reporting some of the bigger MDP stuff. MDP I could also use it to collect bits from multiple messages before MDP I'm ready to create a new summary mail. I could, but I don't. The SmartBat! seems to carry all the editor features. Interesting. I no longer have to fire up the message editor to use the editor features. :-) Even better that it has a hotkey associated with it. -- .-.-. ( : ) ©Allie C Martin .-.\ ' /.-. List Moderator and fellow end user (_.. 'Y' .._) TB! v1.54 Beta/22 WinXP Home ( /|\ ) - '-' | '-' PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/20 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: One step back: Align doesn't work as good ...
@ 14:04:24 +0100 [ Wed, 2 Jan 2002], Dierk Haasis [DH] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... DH In one of the 1.54 betas the Alt+L was made to work even if DH one put the cursor in a line with the mouse - before you had to DH place it there with the arrow keys. DH With beta 21 I find this behaviour broken; I again have to use the DH arrow keys. It certainly doesn't work when using the mouse to position the cursor in beta 20 here. -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/20 WinXP Home Ed. PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/20 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Beta/21 - list of changes
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:58:04 +0200, Konstantin Volenbovsky [KV] wrote these comments: ... KV [+] The support of regexp in Menu Navigator LOL!! I couldn't help it. Such a novel concept. Punching in a regex to find a menu option. KV [-] Smart Pad! allows export to HTML Wow! to be taken negatively -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/20 (*) OS: WinXP Home] ¯¯ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/20 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Sorting when threading by Sender is activated
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:02:09 -0500, Ethan J. Mings [EJM] wrote these comments: ... It's very annoying to search new messages when the threading by sender is active... I organize my Inbox this way and when I get new messages I have to search through the whole Inbox to find the right thread that contains the message. How about using the navigation option ... move to next unread message. It was specifically designed for drilling down to find new messages within threads and in threads scattered throughout a message list. CTRL-] of CTRL+Alt+right arrow will do this for you. This could provide a solution until the whole thing is resolved. The problem with the solution I offer is that you have no control over which new message is read first in that you may wish to read new messages from a particular sender first. Yet another temporary solution would be to use the mail ticker. It will display the new messages for folders which are configured to use the ticker. If you wish to view the other messages within the thread for a new message, then double-click on the new message and another folder opens showing the thread. When you're done, you just hit escape and you're back on track. -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/18 (*) OS: WinXP Home] ¯¯ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Sorting when threading by Sender is activated
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:52:14 +0100, Patrick Cornelißen [PC] wrote these comments: ... PC This is not my problem. I use Threading by sender so I have new PC messages from XYZ and I received the first message from him a long PC time ago, so the new message is nearly at the bottom of my Inbox PC (1000 messages). It is no problem that the mail is somewhere in PC the middle of the thread, but the problem is that the thread PC with the new message is not at the top of the list Interesting. I've never threaded by sender, but are you saying that in former versions, threads containing new messages would be moved to the top of the message list, leading to easy retrievability? -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/18 (*) OS: WinXP Home] ¯¯ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: GUI Problems with Beta 19
@ 19:23:38 -0500 [ Sat, 22 Dec 2001], Ron Mura [RM] wrote these words of wisdom: ... RM - When I click the small carat to the right of the Get New Mail RM and Send Queued Mail buttons, nothing happens. The drop-down list RM of accounts does not appear. This problem was introduced in beta RM 19. Can anyone confirm? Not here. The list of options appear just fine. -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/18 WinXP Home Ed. PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: SOT: beta testing
@ 12:16:03 + [ Wed, 19 Dec 2001], Alastair Scott [AS] wrote these words of wisdom: ... AS A very interesting article on beta testing of commercial software: AS http://www.betanews.com/article.php3?sid=1007600207 A nice read. :-) AS Lots and lots of good points there; the interviewee is as keen as I am AS on tools which make everything visible to everyone. AS (As you can probably guess I'm not impressed with the way RITLabs AS does beta testing*; it's too haphazard and the _testers_ cannot AS see how, and if, their data are being handled which, in my case, AS is offputting. I guess that this is as a result of a lack of good *consistent* communication which is my main problem with the process. I don't see the point of releasing a beta with spanking new features which aren't intuitive, and then there's no instruction on how to use the new feature. How is it supposed to be tested then? Or is the obscurity some way of straining out who tests the feature since the more savvy will be able to 'figure it out'. :-) I hope this is being construed as constructive criticism and not whining. Communication is the main problem to me. Otherwise I don't see much scope for improvement considering the company size and resources. I do think that there are also a lot of excellent beta testers subscribed to this group who could do a lot more if given a chance and are communicated with more effectively. I don't know what's happening on private channels so I can't speak for that. As far as I'm concerned private notes should be minimised so that all can benefit from the exchanges, but I can understand a beta tester resorting to private notes when no responses are forthcoming to important queries made publicly on the list. I do also realize that the developers need time to debug and develop but there's that balance that needs to be struck with communication on the other hand. AS Witness the IMAP closure problem, which RITLabs told me was AS duplicatable and would be fixed yet has been hanging around for AS three builds so far!) It's likely that they're working on a solution but haven't found it yet. But again, no communication of this. It's a case of submitting your problem and hoping it's heard and fixed. This has been working for me. We're being heard. No doubt about that.:-) They do listen and will fix serious bugs and implement important and useful enhancements ... in time. So, I hope with all of this Ritlabs and all who care to read my opinion here, realize that despite my negative slant in this message, I do have very positive views on The Bat! and its development over the years. :-) AS * that said, very few get it anywhere near right; Exactly, and we have to accept this ... to an extent. g Just my $0.02 worth. -- .-.-. ( : ) ©Allie C Martin .-.\ ' /.-. List Moderator and fellow end user (_.. 'Y' .._) TB! v1.54 Beta/16a Win2K SP2 ( /|\ ) - '-' | '-' PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Configuration Dialog for Common Folders
Hi all, It would appear that the common folders need their own configuration dialog, perhaps in the configuration panel (Preferences), since I have no way of adjusting the delay time before messages are flagged as read. What about the 'compress all folders upon exit' option, the 'mark message as read only when only when opened in a separate window' option as well as 'Home directory' options? These would be needed as well. -- .-.-. ( : ) ©Allie C Martin .-.\ ' /.-. List Moderator and fellow end user (_.. 'Y' .._) TB! v1.54 Beta/16a Win2K SP2 ( /|\ ) - '-' | '-' PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Configuration Dialog for Common Folders
@ 14:45:46 +0100 (CET) [ Wed, 19 Dec 2001], Marek Mikus [MM] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... It would appear that the common folders need their own configuration dialog, perhaps in the configuration panel (Preferences), since I have no way of adjusting the delay time before messages are flagged as read. MM and no possibility to define, where attachments should be stored, MM for example. That's right. What about the 'compress all folders upon exit' option, MM as I remember, this option was already added to Account properties. This is on a per account basis. I don't think it can be applied to the common folders unless, the common folders are made to inherit the settings of the default account which wouldn't be desirable for want of control of those common folders. -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/16a Win2K SP2 PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Thread by Subject/Sort by Date Obscures New Messages
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:06:12 -0500, Ron Mura [RM] wrote these comments: ... RM This causes problems when both threading by subject and sorting by RM received date (in descending order) are used. Typically when you RM have a folder sorted by date you want to see new messages at the RM top, and that's the way it worked until beta 15. RM Now, if there is another message in the folder with the same RM subject, the new message gets buried under it. This can be a RM particular inconvenience in folders with large number of messages. RM I've to use View/Display/Only Unread messages just to find some RM new messages. RM Suggestion: If a folder is sorted by received date or created date RM in descending order, do not use the oldest message as the thread RM root, but rather use the NEWEST message as the root. Hmmm. I see what you mean. Before this new feature was introduced, I used to sort messages in descending order of received time and the oldest message would start the thread with the messages getting newer as I go down. This is my personal preference and it works for me. Finding new messages doesn't require digging since I just use the 'go to next unread message' navigation option (CTRL-]). I don't believe in imposing style on others and having the oldest message *always* at the top of the thread, no matter the sorting order chosen by dates (this is what appears to be the case after testing) seems like a bad move to me. Are there those who would wish to sort in *ascending* order of date and yet wish for the oldest message to be at the top? -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/16a (*) OS: Win2K SP2] -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/17
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:43:44 +0100, Jacek Wojaczynski [JW] wrote these comments: ... JW PS. Still hope that Christmas Edition won't be totally fu@#$% up... moderator Oops!! Profanity, expressed or implied isn't allowed on this list. Please refrain from using it guys. Thanks. :-) /moderator - -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/17 WinXP Home PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjwhS28ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IQlwCgqDKYhsxSLzZ3rWYeU9XyhETo g/gAnjQtx84J/ilFUn/BwVXUmL0qzvzF =Pefd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Drag Drop
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:21:56 +0100, Marek Mikus [MM] wrote these comments: ... MM its nice and useful, but Drag Drop should be more improved than is now: MM - Drag Drop message to desktop to create MSG file there MM - Drag Drop URL from message to desktop to create URL file with this MM link MM - Drag Drop mailto: address from message to desktop to create URL MM link with this address MM - Drag Drop file from File Manager to icon in TaskBar or Systray to MM create new message with this file attached MM - Drag Drop selected messages in pane to icon New message in main MM toolbar to create new message with these messages attached as MIME All useful. MM - Drag Drop selected messages in pane to icon Forward in main MM toolbar to forward selected messages as MIME to somebody Now this would add very important functionality. At present there's no easy way to send a MIME digest containing messages from multiple folders. Simply dragging and dropping the selected messages to the editor would be great. -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/15 Win2K SP2 PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: TB! v1.54 Beta/15 - Menu Naivigator Access Error
@ 23:48:07 +0500 [ Sat, 8 Dec 2001], Alexander Leschinsky [AL] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... ACM Nope. It opens just fine here. AL Opens - yes.. But try to _find_smth - you'll get AV Confirmed. I had done so but so many had already confirmed that I had kept it quiet. :-) -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/15 (*) OS: Win2K SP 2] __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Bug: RTF Viewer settings not displaying all fonts
Hi all, My preferred font is Oloron. In the attachment font.png, you'll see it listed as a choice of font in the message list colour panel. I can also use it anywhere else except in the RTF Viewer. In the second capture. font2.png, you can see the list of fonts in the RTF Viewer configuration panel not listing Oloron as a choice. I'm therefore unable to use Oloron in the RTF Viewer. -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/15 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ font.png Description: PNG image font2.png Description: PNG image
Re: Bug: RTF Viewer settings not displaying all fonts
@ 00:30:52 -0500 [ Sun, 9 Dec 2001], Allie Martin [AM] wrote these words of wisdom: ... AM I'm therefore unable to use Oloron in the RTF Viewer. I reinstalled the font and things are OK. Why only the RTF viewer needed this and no other parts of TB! or any other application that I checked?? Go figure. :-) Anyway, it's OK now. -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/15 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Fonts for those interested
Hi all, For those interested in some fixed width fonts. I just uploaded some to my server space. AFAIK, these fonts are free and the character support isn't great. So the multi-lingual fellas may not get too much joy out of them. :-) If you write using only simple ASCII text, then you should be fine with them. http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/Fonts.zip -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/15 (*) OS: Win2K SP 2] ¯¯¯ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: cascading inbox filters between accounts?
@ 22:18:44 -0500 [ Wed, 5 Dec 2001], Paul A. Thiessen [PAT] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... ACM If you wish the incoming filter rules for account #2 to be triggered, ACM you have to redirect your messages from account #1 to the *inbox* of ACM account #2 and nowhere else. PAT But how do I redirect to a particular box? The redirect box in PAT the filter rules dialog seems to want an e-mail address rather PAT than a box location - Yes, this is correct. You use the redirect option if you wish to send a copy of an intact message you've received to someone else, with the sender and reply headers intact. The only way to redirect a message to another of your accounts is to redirect the message to the e-mail address that you have associated with the target account in the target account's properties. PAT ... And trying to redirect it to the address that's sent to box PAT #2 seems to just make it go out via the ISP again, rather than PAT locally, even when allow local delivery is checked. In other PAT words, I can't figure out how to get local delivery to work... Have you enabled the option 'Allow local delivery' in Options//Network Administration? -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/15 (*) OS: Win2K SP 2] __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: can't delete from server for messages from another account
@ 22:39:56 -0500 [ Wed, 5 Dec 2001], Paul A. Thiessen [PAT] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... PAT Without knowing anything about how messages are stored internally PAT in TB, I don't know if such a communication between accounts is PAT at all feasible... But it seems that in general it'd be nice to PAT be able to treat messages more or less independently of the PAT particular account they're downloaded from. PAT OTOH, I could see that maybe the whole point of having separate PAT POP accounts is, in general, to keep the message folders totally PAT independent. I guess I could just tell my ISP not to have three PAT mailboxes anymore, and just redirect all of the e-mail addresses PAT to one box on the server... I guess this boils down to a PAT philosophy argument. :) Exactly! However, as I said in a previous message, I highly recommend your running a local POP server. It would give you a lot of flexibility and control over your mail management. -- .-.-. ( : ) ©Allie C Martin .-.\ ' /.-. List Moderator and fellow end user (_.. 'Y' .._) TB! v1.54 Beta/15 Win2K SP 2 ( /|\ ) - '-' | '-' PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: TB! V1.54 Beta/15 - New Filter Dialogue
@ 18:17:54 -0500 [ Thu, 6 Dec 2001], Jan Rifkinson [JR] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... JR I can select the type of filter, give it a name. JR I *cannot* enter an action or save it. JR What am I missing? The fact that it's not really functional. You can only look. :-) -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/15 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Greetings from new user/tester!
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:51:36 -0500, Paul A. Thiessen [PAT] graced us with these comments: ... PAT Anyway, my first question is: which beta version should I use, PAT and submit reports/comments about? I've currently got 1.53t PAT going. Should I use 1.54 instead? Welcome Paul. :-) The latest beta is v1.54/b15. If you'll be regularly trying new beta's you can take note of where beta's are normally uploaded and go fetch them as you need. The latest beta may be downloaded here: ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta/tb154b15.rar The ftp directory sited in the above URL is where betas are uploaded and a few of the earlier betas are still available there in case you need to role back because of a bug that seriously gets in your way. -- .-.-. ( : ) ©Allie C Martin .-.\ ' /.-. List Moderator and fellow end user (_.. 'Y' .._) TB! v1.54 Beta/15 Win2K SP 2 ( /|\ ) - '-' | '-' PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Common folders - making them better
@ 02:18:11 +0100 [ Sun, 2 Dec 2001], Peter Meyns [PM] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... PM As Dwight said, it's a trash folder for mails from the common PM folders. So TB! regards common folders like an extra account with PM its own trash bin. I think common folders are useful for storing PM messages from different accounts centrally. The daily work will PM still be done from within the accounts. So you are saying that these common folders should be like virtual folders? ... In that the messages within the common folders are still linked to the accounts from whence they came? While using common folders for the first few days, I never deleted messages from any of them or replied to messages within any of them. I did hit the reply button on a few to see how it would be handled and the default account for mailto: URLs was the account associated with the message upon checking the status line in the editor window of the reply message. This would have been a good working solution. -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/14 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Cannot move an account folder into common folders
In a message dated, Sat, 1 Dec 2001 21:47:27 -0600, Dwight A Corrin [DAC] wrote: ... Well Nick, I just decided to delete a few messages in one of the common folders and the 'common' trash folder appeared, which cannot be deleted because it's a default folder. :-/ DAC Let us know if you suddenly get a sent folder and an outbox g I'll surely keep you informed. :-) -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/14 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Window focus
@ 11:47:58 +0100 [ Sun, 2 Dec 2001], Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote these words of wisdom: ... DH 6. When I double-click a message in the MT I get the corresponding DH View Folder but in the background, not focused. I haven't experienced this. DH 7. As discussed earlier some (or all) dialogue boxes from TB! lose DH their focus when an action is executed which does not close the DH box/window. An example is the preference's window when installing DH TB! as MAPI handler. I tried this as well and the options window remained in front. -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/14 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Common folders - making them better
@ 07:17:21 -0600 [ Sun, 2 Dec 2001], Dwight A Corrin [DAC] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... While using common folders for the first few days, I never deleted messages from any of them or replied to messages within any of them. I did hit the reply button on a few to see how it would be handled and the default account for mailto: URLs was the account associated with the message upon checking the status line in the editor window of the reply message. This would have been a good working solution. DAC That pretty much has to be the way it handles which account it DAC uses to send replies. This is important for mailing list replies, DAC since if it used a different account for replies many would DAC bounce because sender would not be a subscriber. This problem can easily be fixed with address book templates and it's these address book templates that allow you to store discussion list *anywhere* without worrying about incorrect sender addressing upon replying. Of course SMTP server limitations may create another set of problems with sending mail via any account. But I'll always encourage those who use multiple remote POP accounts and don't have access to a remote SMTP server that readily relays messages, to run their own local SMTP server. It greatly enhances your flexibility. -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/14 (*) OS: Win2K SP 2] __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Cannot move an account folder into common folders
In a message dated, Sun, 2 Dec 2001 08:19:33 -0600, Dwight A Corrin [DAC] wrote: ... DAC Understood. I dragged the folder Mailing Lists from the account DAC where it was lodged to the area above all my accounts, making it DAC a Common Folder. (I did this BEFORE your message came where the DAC attachment link vanished.) Your message above prompted me to DAC scroll down my TBBETA folder looking for messages with DAC attachments. At each one a passed, as soon as I focused on that DAC message the attachment icon vanished. It would appear to be a DAC common folder bug. Ok. I didn't realize that you were having the problem within common folders alone. There are a few issues left to be dealt with, in regard to the use of common folders, so I haven't really started giving them the full responsibilities I plan for them. -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/14 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Common folders - making them better
In a message dated, Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:09:35 -0600, Dwight A Corrin [DAC] wrote: ... DAC It's difficult to imagine the point of an outbox or a sent folder DAC which cannot send mail. I can see that a common inbox might be an DAC alright idea, but how do things get in it. Interesting. I created my common folders by moving what were formally folders in an account to the common area. I then deleted the account which was basically created only for the said folders. I therefore don't have the redundant folders being mentioned. DAC If they do get in it what happens when one tries to reply to one DAC of them? The account assigned to handle the reply is your default account for mailto: URL's. In fact, the default account handles everything that the common folders may need an accounts services for, such as trash, storing sent mail etc. What I'm having problems with is the folder maintaining its column settings. The use default column settings is a bit confusing in the context of common folders. Is this the default column settings for the associated account? Or is it the default setting for the common folders. I can't really say since one of the folders will not retain the column settings that I assigned it. It keeps reverting to the TB! default when I re-start TB! DAC A common trash folder seems a good idea, and a way to regain DAC screen space IF one could replace all the trash folders in all DAC the accounts with one common trash folder. That, I think, would DAC be a good thing. Then one could just empty one trash folder and DAC compact one trash folder and gain in several ways. I personally prefer a trash folder per account. -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/14 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: TB! - bug: ABTemplates don't work in outer folders
In a message dated, Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:01:44 +0100, Carsten Thönges [CT] wrote: ... CT The bug description: CT In an outer folder the address book templates don't work. I can't reproduce this. The address book template is used as it should be. -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/14 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Folders outside accounts not retaining column settings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Folders outside accounts are not retaining column settings between restarts. - -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/14 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for Security iEYEARECAAYFAjwIZhwACgkQV8nrYCsHF+Ke/wCfdixywrXdcmmqH9m4mZ/EPwJ7 cC8AniHrwID1WRzq6V6Esz4j40q9zakO =qt7R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reply bug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 15:37:47 +0100 [ Thu, 22 Nov 2001], Dierk Haasis [DH] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... DH I also use it for both functions. What I am referring to is a bug DH in 10e, sometimes - but not always - when opening the editor DH window to compose a reply TB! freezes. The editor window comes up DH halfway, that is, there is a new pane visible, but without DH message contents (it stays white). You can't do anything in TB! at DH this moment and although Windows is not crashed and you still can DH focus other windows (even within TB!) the display will not DH refresh. You have to kill TB! through the TaskManager. I've just reverted back to b10 since the transient loss of user input during mail checks is getting annoying. However, while using the beta, I never encountered the problem you described. - -- ©Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54/10 Win2K SP 2 PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for Security iEYEARECAAYFAjv9fDQACgkQV8nrYCsHF+Le6QCfZQvdZN73CQlrIMKZ23LGrD7s ZMoAn1KpmhTVAC8f3VHEUoDPeCYtB19x =lmls -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: v10e beta having regular periods of input loss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 18:15:54 +0100 [ Thu, 22 Nov 2001], Carsten Thönges [CT] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... CT Freezes on my system have IMO something to do with S/MIME. I don't CT now if this is the same problem Allie encounters but try the CT following: snip No. My problem is very specific and I confirmed this by activating the CC letting it show up automatically (I normally disable it). At every mail check, there is loss of user input for the whole system because the CPU is completely hogged by the check process. It's not until the CC disappears that user input ability returns. This happens with *every* mail check and upon looking at the CPU use, it's 100% throughout the mail check. - -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54/10 (*) OS: Win2K SP 2] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for Security iEYEARECAAYFAjv9fagACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JlEwCfY1JbGGxMHJtogrtLs8abYj/Q QdgAnj/OLw9skaMbWpDDKaUOIxEBS8cI =hXnS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - bug report: Selection in FolderTree changes unexpected
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In a message dated, Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:22:17 +0100, Peter Palmreuther [PP] wrote: ... PP - Have two or more accounts. PP - Expand at least two or more accounts (at least one level expand, PP no fully expansion necessary) PP - Go to a not topmost account (second, third, what-ever) into a PP folder of your choice. PP - Collapse the topmost account by pressing the minus-sign in front PP of the account name. PP - see what happens. Uhm The topmost account collapses and the message being viewed remains in view etc? I don't see anything funny here. What exactly am I supposed to be looking for? PP - If the folder you were in does not contain any mail choose a PP different one to see much clearer what's annoying with this PP behavior. The folder I'm in contains mail. The others I tried also contains mail. - -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54/10 (*) OS: Win2K SP 2] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for Security iEYEARECAAYFAjvrxbcACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IVDwCgjvr+g74V/k9+ng1MwVJtzdn9 2JAAoI2QXoBiKFF3zWSe45BeD9bZ+YW3 =Y/zJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 08:27:05 -0800 [ Fri, 9 Nov 2001], Nick Andriash [NA] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... NA It appears to be a clunky operation whenever you have to open the NA Address Book every time you want to address a letter to a Contact NA which has multiple addresses. I agree completely. I still use separate entries per address for each contact and then hit Ctrl(+/-) to toggle between the choices after typing the name in the To: field. - -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54/10 (*) OS: Win2K SP 2] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for Security iEYEARECAAYFAjvsJoAACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KLBQCgjUWtXZ87Okl/Qh8VY3uix4Ay fYEAniGOI0SGJo4K3om9LXYQxEMzeap2 =5nOJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Flawed wizard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 19:43:45 + [ Fri, 9 Nov 2001], Alastair Scott [AS] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... AS It would be helpful for a Restore account from backup option to be AS available from the first step of the wizard, cutting out all the AS unnecessary steps. This, I think, would be a nice simple addition AS before 1.54 comes out :) This, I think, is a great suggestion. I remember having to do this. - -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54/10 (*) OS: Win2K SP 2] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for Security iEYEARECAAYFAjvsOjoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IpbACgsF5DPzmkRMBJlxd+tRuLGr29 +WoAoPgYMewcGmkrDDE2cq/tl/iyacOg =Juz9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Problem with binding attachments only when sending
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I enabled the option to bind attachments only upon sending. Since then, I've sent two messages containing attachments. However, upon inspecting the copies of the messages in my outbox, no attachments are seen. I'd expect that the attachments would be there. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! 1.54/10 (*) OS: Win2K SP 2] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for Security iEYEARECAAYFAjvaAtgACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JDMwCg1xV39HR2cNZgO0MhuqEfqqlu upIAoITunX3nBaSKW3BU0ZqrOrU2i/+e =lzI6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Enough is enough..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 09:25:32 -0400, Jan Rifkinson [JR] graced us with these comments: ... JR What are the steps to duplicate this procedure, Allie? JR Or is it already up on FAQ? I created a file containing the following: ___ @Echo Off Path=J:\WinNT del C:\TBBackup\tbreg.reg regedit /e C:\TBBackup\tbreg.reg hkey_current_user\software\rit exit _ You can adjust the paths to reflect your destination directory for the backup. Call the file yourname.cmd Now go to Start/Settings/Control Panel/Scheduled Tasks/Add Scheduled Tasks. Configure the scheduled task as you wish and you're done. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54/10 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6a (Win32) Comment: Sealed for Security iEYEARECAAYFAjvIf4QACgkQV8nrYCsHF+I0BwCdGV4vYIv02pRbXp7HMUDw6c+E RfEAn2ir7O8eDu3Bz3Xhj4+LKbUx8o6/ =byJK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Another Isn't it about time type request. :-)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I was away for a few days and have been going through my mail using the main window (I don't normally use the main window to browse mail), since having 700+ messages all in one virtual folder would have been rather tedious to deal with. I keep instinctively using the CTRL-up/down keys to navigate the message list with the preview window in focus. I'm able to do this in the folder view. It's so important to make the navigation consistent so that the user has no problem browsing where ever he/she is. Could this support be added pleeease. :-)) I'm not one to beg and plead but I'm doing it here, especially with all these fancy enhancements going down. What do you say?? :-) - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54/10 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6a (Win32) Comment: Sealed for Security iEYEARECAAYFAjvI0PEACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JSwQCgoRvuTa/GPvTc5R1hGnv4PEDi BZ8An37A2c4/4PEa9lG1kIVVHoCjPCjN =E0J0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: beta/10
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:28:31 -0700, Januk Aggarwal [JA] wrote these comments: ... [+] Alternative address selection for creating messages from the address book. ME How?? JA It seems that when you're using address auto-completion, you can JA select the alternative using CTRL-+. I don't see this happening upon testing. The menu selection for choosing the alternative address is so buried within the interface that it's virtually unusable. Making it accessible via CTRL+ auto-completion would be a nice addition. JA However, it appears that once you've selected the alternative JA address, you can't switch back to the primary address. Perhaps JA I've missed a shortcut? I don't think so. :-( - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54/10 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6a (Win32) Comment: Sealed for Security iEYEARECAAYFAjvI24gACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IpfgCeJDgh4ocmfy5Tc6O9Fx01KPlh sVkAoMq+TRO54xcPoOdKGgRti7H/Cgqj =tGTO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Windows XP appearance issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:16:29 +0100, Alastair Scott [AS] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... AS Picture: AS http://www.btinternet.com/~thebrixton/tbxp.png This link seems to be broken. Anyone else been able to load it? - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/9 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6a (Win32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjurlT8ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+I46ACg1OJ7i4ZY8f4/oca5mr38fUkR JEEAoOVuox710YG16XsL+FQn8s0JEads =X7jo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Not able to close TB! though it's running just fine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Has anyone been having trouble exiting TB! after it's been running for a while? I've been having to use the taskmanager to kill TB! on a couple occasions today. Right now, I cannot exit TB! though things seem otherwise OK. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6a (Win32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEUEARECAAYFAjulUv4ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+J9lQCgz01oT9NkQVHFSO0MdYoQmUtc YukAljXkLYNqKLIuo3bUhWPpDyR+rZY= =P5vQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
GnuPG plugin and TB!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Decrypting messages is really a pain when using the GnuPG plugin for TB!. In the GnuPG options file there is a line which defines the default key for signatures and the default key for encryption. Why are we presented with an empty box for message decryption. Shouldn't the default signing key be placed as a first choice??? We have to be manually filling it out *every time*. Is there not going to be a fix soon for this problem Smart matching has its problems, some of which I mentioned in a previous message but decrypting messages is really tedious using this plug-in. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6a (Win32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjulVBoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JBhgCg7s5V/prrfTGABSSXGkHtsSbo QoYAnRE5ID30D0TgfdqI+++L5aQf7Bsw =3D9Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re: bugs not fixed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:56:08 +0200, you thoughtfully wrote the following: ... PP All in all: there _IS_ an indicator if there're drafted messages PP in outbox :-) OK ... it could be somehow better PP visible/recognizable but nevertheless you can't deny the fact _it PP is there_ :-) If you use the high color icons, it's more visible. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjubXJoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JRagCgwN6SQulgVhyzSIMA/VVzYPNY vA4AnA37cIb0miEO3UQQ3PCvy3Gz/YLV =8U8p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re: The Bat! - bug report : Replied PGP signed messages showing a bad signature in RTV with PGP shell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David, On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:51:28 +0200, you wrote these words of wisdom: ... DvZ The bug description: DvZ In the Rich Text viewer pgp-signed messages with quoted material DvZ show a bad signature with PGP shell, while in Fixed With Font DvZ viewer the messages show up with a good signature. Messages with DvZ no quoted material have a good signature in RTV. I posted this one myself sometime ago. The reason for the bad signatures is that there is that in the RTF viewer, an extra space is inserted after each quote prefix. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuUrLUACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LLwgCeMtDkcdNdVUonP0Y848zPSjFU RYIAnA5G9MWHz2H68mvQYRwHAZExpBqY =GKij -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/7
GnuPG and Smartmatching
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've found the smart-matching function in the GnuPG plug-in to be trying since I tend to use variable identities, i.e., sometimes my first name only, or my nickname, or my full name with middle initial. I have to include each and every UID in my PGP keys or else signing with the plug-in will result in a error if I don't manually substitute a UID with one that's included in the PGP key. I created a new key to be used with a particular identity and even though the e-mail address is the same as one associated with another UID in my main key, the appropriate key is always automatically chosen. This is a big plus for the GnuPG plug-in since the PGP Plug-in will not do this. However, in an effort to perfect the mechanism of how the plug-in's smart-matching functionality works, I'd like to propose the following: a) Give the user the option to disable smart-matching. This will give the user who has one PGP key the freedom of making changes in identity without coming up with an error when attempting to sign messages with a from name/address combination that doesn't exactly match any of the UID's contained within the public key, or having to fill in the appropriate identity in the pop-up box to avoid this error. b) If there's a successful match of a From name and address with a PGP key UID, just sign using the matching key without bringing up the pop-up confirmation dialog if the pass-phrase is cached. c) If there's a failure to to smart-match the from name/address with a key UID, bring up a dialog containing all the possible keys to use so that the user can quickly choose and move on. Presently having to manually type in the relevant UID and pass-phrase is extremely awkward to say the least. It's this one piece of discomfort that pushed me into creating many UID's for my main key. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/5 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjt0Z3kACgkQV8nrYCsHF+KGtwCgicPuHtqVJbUeE2Re87XRPKGf /mEAoNjjy2mmtqdw4zgb6yiT4xj31iHF =2NGn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
