Re: License Agreement
Hello RS (FEDARA), On Friday, April 27, 2012, 12:38:16 PM, RS (FEDARA) wrote: It's my understanding of the Agreement that you can install it on any machine as long as you don't use both of them at the same time (ex: desktop as a main and notebook when you travel). When moving data I do export TBK from one machine and import it to a newly installed version on the other machine. Takes me an hour to move it from one machine to another but is easier than looking for messages that were already filtered out to relevant folders. Thanks, RS. I thought that was the case, but I could not remember. I used to do the same as you to move data between desktop and laptop, but have been using IMAP for 5 years now. -- Julian Using The Bat! v5.1.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time Zones???
Hello Ian, Sunday, April 29, 2001, 6:08:57 PM, you wrote: IA Hello All, IA I just wanted to ask about the tagging of time zones in e-mail IA headers. I live in GMT, but the headers say +0100. Is e-mail time IA measured differently to GMT, or is +0100 a 'tag' for GMT? Thanks for IA any help. IA ian Ian, if you are inn the UK, we are now on BST of course, 1 hr ahead of GMT. -- Best regards, Julianmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
New User: Stripping mailing list blurb
Hello all, I'm just starting out with The Bat! and want to strip some list management blurb from the bottom of emails I am replying to. I already use the modified filter that strips sigs but this does not work in many cases as people are not using -- to mark their sig lines. Here's an example: ---e.g.-- ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ---end of e.g.-- Can anyone help me with a suitable re? (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Newbie: 2nd question
Hello all, Is it possible either to sync the *address book* with a Palm PDA _or_ sync it with MS Outlook? (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Newbie: 2nd question
Hello Tim, on 27/Jun/2002 you wrote: TM Hey Julian, TM My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 TM to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TM on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 8:35:26 AM. JK Is it possible either to sync the *address book* with a Palm PDA _or_ JK sync it with MS Outlook? TM Unfortunately, no. There are some who have offered to code the TM conduit, but we need the AB file format from RIT, and writing that TM does not seem to be high on their priority list... g TM If/When it is available, it will be posted here, and probably added TM to the FAQ. Thanks for the prompt reply! This is sad though as these things are about all that's currently stopping me from getting rid of Outlook for my email. (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Palm - TBab sync (was Re: Newbie: 2nd question)
Hello Tim, on 27/Jun/2002 you wrote: TM Hey Julian, TM My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 TM to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TM on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 9:17:40 AM. JK This is sad though as these things are about all that's currently JK stopping me from getting rid of Outlook for my email. TM You can do an export of your Palm AB to vCard, then import it to TBab. TM It is not a sync though. If you look through the archives you should TM be able to find my results of trying to sync with vCards, but as I TM recall, TB handled duplicates with no problems (no import), but Palm TM DT just created a new entry blindly... Hmm, thanks for the answer. However, I'd prefer not to step backwards really. However, perhaps this leans towards a solution where I can synchronise the TB address book with the Outlook address book periodically? I will need to continue using Outlook for Calendar and tasks anyway for the moment as the Palm desktop simply doesn't cut it for me. (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: New User: Stripping mailing list blurb
Hello Jernej, on 27/Jun/2002 you wrote:
JS Hello Julian,
JS 27. junij 2002, 14:22:07, you wrote:
JK Can anyone help me with a suitable re?
JS Here's a QT I use, and it seems to work with your example:
Doh!! I worked out what was wrong. I was including the QT *as well as*
the %Quotes macro rather than replacing it!
People might also like to note that I have changed the macro slightly
to remove extra blank lines at the end of the email by adding (^\n*)
before the appropriate option (_{40,}\s*\n) like so (note line 5):
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%QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)%-
((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?%-
(--+\s+.*roups.*~--\\n.*\n--+~-\\n\n)?%-
(.*?)(^(- -*?\s*?--\s*\n|%-
(^\n*)_{40,}\s*\n|%-
-{40,}\s*\n|%-
\n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
--+\s+.*roups.*~--\)|%-
\n\nYour use of|%-
\n+Get your FREE download|%-
\nNote that the email address of the sender has been changed|%-
\n---\nOutgoing mail is certified Virus Free.|%-
\z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=5'
-
Additionally, I've changed the reply template (note the %- on the end
of the first QInclude) to remove another unwanted blank line:
-
%To=%-
%To=%OFROMNAME [EMAIL PROTECTED]%-
%CC=%-
%-
Hello %OFromFName, on %ODate=d/mmm/ you wrote:
%QInclude=StripSigs%-
%Cursor
--
%QInclude=PersSigLong
-
Hope this may help other newbies too!
(Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 )
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Getting rid of annoying bleep?
Hello all, Is there any way to turn off the annoying bleep that is given when an attempted connection fails? I like to control when my machine goes online but also like to have emails update rapidly when I really am online so I have the periodical checking set to every minute. (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Getting rid of annoying bleep?
Hello Allie, on 29/Jun/2002 you wrote: JK Is there any way to turn off the annoying bleep that is given when JK an attempted connection fails? ACM You do this by making TB! not attempt a connection whenever you're not ACM online. ACM Go to menu - Options/Network and Administration ACM Enable the following options: ACM - - 'Dial Up Connection' - and choose the relevant one from your list if ACM necessary. ACM - - 'No automatic dial for periodic checking' ACM - - 'Use an existing dialup connection (if any)' Ah, sorry, I can't do this as I don't want dial-up, I am often (but not always) on a LAN and when I am on dial-up I need to keep full control of when I dial up as I have many things to do. Because of this, I always use LAN connections. Another post has suggested an alternative which I will try, thanks for the response. (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Getting rid of annoying bleep?
Hello Thomas, on 29/Jun/2002 you wrote: JK Is there any way to turn off the annoying bleep that is given when an JK attempted connection fails? TF I have a key HKCU / Software / RIT / The Bat! / BeepMode (which is set TF to 0 (zero). I am sure I don't hear any beeps. TF If all else fails, apply pliers to speaker cable. ;-) Thanks for the reply, I've actually set TB! to check manually at the moment but I will try your suggestion. (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Looking for an SMTP server
Hello Miguel, on 30/Jun/2002 you wrote: MAU Hello Jonathan, I don't know of any other smtp servers for windows except Deerfield's (or at least was their's) MDaemon. MAU Mercury/32, which is FREE, is more than just an SMTP server. It is a MAU full MTA (SMTP, POP, IMAP) with powerful filtering and content MAU checking, mailing list, etc. May seem a bit complex to set up at first MAU but, once setup, it runs beautifully. It's been running for me 24 MAU hr/day for a year without a single glitch. MAUhttp://www.pmail.com/whatsnew/new_m32.htm MAU MailTraq4free (limited to 4 users) is also quite powerful MTA and MAU should be simpler to set up just as an SMTP server. As some of you may MAU know, I use it as Mail2News and News2Mail router. It add a 1 line tag MAU at the end of all messages. MAUhttp://www.mailtraq.com/mailtraq4free.html MAU For those using Windows 2000 Pro, it already includes an SMTP Service. MAU Take a look at HELP at \%systemroot%\help\mail.chm (where %systemroot% MAU usually is C:\WINNT) AFAIK, The Windows 2k/XP SMTP service is part of IIS rather than Windows itself (you get the personal version with Pro, the full versions are available for server). However, I cannot easily recommend installing this unless you are prepared to stay on top of the many bug fixes for Windows/IIS because of the number of security problems. (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hello Marck, on 10/Jul/2002 you wrote: MDP Stuff the street and phone information. Ignore it - I do. TB's address MDP book is *so* well suited to its real purpose, but *not* to the general MDP purpose address book that it appears to be on the surface. JT It seems to me that if somebody builds a conduit between TB AB and JT Palm, then we will still need a time planer, a to do list, JT integration with M$ Word, a Pocket PC sync, a billing software, JT etc. MDP What has any of that functionality to do with an email address list? JT Does it make sense to skip the conduit, develop a relationship JT with TC and/or others, and add an ability to hook into those JT PIMs? MDP Not to me! Why does an email client and an email address list need all MDP of that data? Well I NEED an address book in my email client and I NEED an address book in my Diary. It seems sensible to me to have one address book with the information I need in it, I really do not want to have to maintain several though I could synchronise - provided an automated sync facility was available - but it is still a pain and you do get issues from time-to-time with synchronisation. So now I need address books for: - Email client - News client (possibly) - PC based PIM - Palm PIM - Mobile Phone (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Zone Alarm, was (Re: Strange File Extensions in Attachments)
Hello ETM, on 10/Jul/2002 you wrote: E I use ZA-free on my laptop and ZA-pro (not the current version) E on my PC, both use TheBat, and I have had absolutely no problems E with either computer. I am on cable and would not even consider E using cable without firewall protection. E I did not see the post with the former subject line. However, E ZA-Pro does rename file attachments if they are suspect. ZA-free E renames only one or two suspect attachments. Renaming them E permits viewing/using them. I have usually found that .exe E created the most alarm in ZA and if I am confident the executable E is safe (known sender, after AV scanning), I can rename the file, E add the .exe extension and execute it. E Elaine E Hello Jonathan E On Wednesday, July 10, 2002, you wrote E snip What's the list's problem with Zone Alarm? Zone Alarm in general, or when used in conjunction with The Bat!? Is there something, as a user of both, that I should be aware of? Oh and I sometimes keep my PC on overnight, whatever that has to do with it... Well ZA is as good at it gets if you don't want to pay and you dont want any hastle with setting firewall rules. I used to use ZA but there was a period of time when there were problems with Windows 2000 and then with XP. I also wanted to see and control my rules in more detail. Because of that I switched to Tiny Personal Firewall which is still free but development of this has now been passed on to Kerio. The personal firewall from Agnitum (www.agnitum.com) is probably the best and most secure one available at present and one of very few that is able to deal with leak tests but the free version is fairly limited. Kerio Personal Firewall remains the best for me as it gives me very good control, works as a service under NT/2k/xp and is free. However, when my son grows up enough to need Internet access I will probably pay for the Agnitum one. Sorry if this is getting somewhat off topic. (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[4]: Zone Alarm, was (Re: Strange File Extensions in Attachments)
Hello Joseph, on 11/Jul/2002 you wrote: JNOn Thursday, July 11, 2002, Julian Knight wrote in JN [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JK However, when my son grows up enough to need Internet access I will JK probably pay for the Agnitum one. JN Why? Because it gives me parental control, control over the appearance of adverts, cookie use, email filtering, multi-user configuration (on one PC), better leak protection more. The supposed benefits of the pro version are listed here: http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/benefitspro.html The only reason I haven't switched to the free version is that it crashed my XP based laptop after installation - however, Agnitum do warn of this being a potential clash between the DLL's of competing firewalls (I didn't want to uninstall KPF I just disabled it). PS: Some last minute checking on the web turned up this interesting article on leak testing: http://www.pcflank.com/art21.htm - it contradicts what I had heard elsewhere about Agnitum Outpost being better than KPF at leak tests though the other things still apply. In reality, I wont allow my children to connect directly to the Internet without supervision until I know they are old enough to deal with the issues - the appalling stuff that turns up in innocent web searches and delivered to my email continues to convince me of this. Sorry again about the OT, I'll turn off my evangelist mode now! (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
I cannot get off this list!
Hello all, I've been trying a while to get off this list using the commands at the bottom of the emails on the list but I am still getting messages. Anyone out there who can help? (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Addressbook
Hello TBBETA, I have been playing with the new addressbook following some struggles with it last week when I was trying to do a mass mailing using a template (for which I ended up having to revert to the old addressbook). The new addressbook does not have a menu from which things like Mass Mailings can be selected. From playing around, I found that the Actions button that appears if you select one or more contacts enables you to select Mass Mailing. However: - There does not appear to be a way to select all contacts in a particular addressbook. If you select an addressbook or sub-addressbook in the left hand list, the contacts appear on the right, but there is not a Select All option - each one has to be selected individually or you have to click on the first scroll to the end of the list and shift-click to select all. - The search box at the top of the list searches all addressbooks, not the one selected. - If you select a contact from addressbook, the contact details appear on the right and that addressbook's contacts appear on the left, but you cannot then go back. If you want to go back to the list of all addressbooks on the left and individual addressbook contacts on the right, you need to click the hamburger menu on the left and then select the individual addressbook again. A back button to take you back to the list again would be much easier. Overall, I think I will stick to the old addressbook for the time being. I can see the new one has potential, but it is not as functional as the old one at the moment. Finally, I did notice that the menu on the old addressbook was detached from the actual addressbook in my two-monitor setup. The addressbook window appears in the middle of screen 2, but the menu (File|Edit|View) is stuck in the top left corner of screen 2 and does not move if I drag the window to screen 1. -- Julian Using The Bat! v10.2.1 on Windows 10.0 Build 19043 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Server Timeouts
Hello tbudl, Is it possible to increase the default timeouts for mailservers within TB? I connect to a mail server than can sometimes take a while to respond, causing TB to timeout the connection and emit an Unwanted Bleep! -- Best regards, Julian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Turn off the bleeping beep
On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, 11:31:55 PM, Yuki Taga wrote: I have two accounts, and TB is set to check them both at all times. For some reason, I'm intermittently getting a failure to connect on the secondary account. I never get it on the primary account (this one). I am having the same problem, then, but I have been blaming my ISP, which is supposed to be having some mail problems at the moment. Have you tried accessing the same mail accounts from different software (I use Popcorn when I am travelling, as I can fit it on a USB Flash Disk), or by using the Despatch Centre? This might indicate whether it is a ISP or software problem. I posted a question about extending the timeouts that TB uses, which would be the other way round this problem. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB phones home, sends spam?
On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 3:57:19 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote: A common one is Undisclosed.Recipients@server name. I get about 7 of those a day. I'm guessing depending on the mail server if you set it to reject anything sent directly to the server name, it should drop those mails. After all... why would legitimate contacts be sending email to your server name, instead of your domain name? I have a Selective Download filter that kills all messages addressed to the server name (the filter is '@server.name'), and this gets rid of a lot of spam. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: odd emails
On Thursday, May 16, 2002, 10:48:37 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote: [OT] Where did you get the XP theme from? I'm looking for one just like that ;) [/OT] It is built into Windows XP. Right-click on the desktop to get the display properties, and then select the Appearance tab. The Windows and Buttons style should be Windows XP Style, and the you have three choices of colour scheme - Silver, Blue (default) and Olive Green. Silver is nice, isn't it! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
SpamCop Encoding problem
Hello tbudl, Using the filter script posted by Marck last week, I have set up filter to automatically send spam messages to SpamCop as an attachment. The file sent is called Export.txt, and is a Unix Mailbox file. When I view this within TB or email it to myself it looks fine. However, when I send it to SpamCop I get it back with a message saying that Spamcop encountered problems. The returned message looks like this: - SpamCop encountered errors while saving spam for processing: SpamCop could not find your spam message in this email: [snip most of headers] Subject: Message Submission MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--951085329DEB656 951085329DEB656 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Julian Beach 951085329DEB656 Content-Type: text/plain; name=export.txt Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=export.txt RnJvbSBuZml5Z2lub2pAYWRpbi5iZSAgIFNhdCBNYXkgMTggMTM6Mzg6MjQgMjAwMgpSZXR1cm4t UGF0aDogPG5maXlnaW5vakBhZGluLmJlPgpSZWNlaXZlZDogZnJvbSBjcG14MC5kaXJjb24ubmV0 ICgxOTUuMTU3LjcuNDEpIGJ5IHN0b3JhZ2UtMi5uZXRzY2FsaWJ1ci5pdCAoNS41LjA0MykKICAg [snip] What am I doing wrong? -- Best regards, Julian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60k on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Undelivered mail
On Saturday, May 18, 2002, 1:53:22 PM, Fré van Limpt wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: maildir delivery failed: error writing message:Disc quota exceeded Does this mean that I have exceeded an amount of disk space on The Bat!'s mail server attributed to me? I think it means that the mailbox of the person you are sending the message to is full, and will not accept more mail. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60k on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SpamCop Encoding problem
On Saturday, May 18, 2002, 2:33:22 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: What am I doing wrong? Using the export.txt as an attachment. Ah! That how was I originally set it up, but Spamcop confused me by saying they wanted the message as an attachment. I will change it now, and try it out on the next spam message I get (which should be along any minute!) Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60k on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SpamCop Encoding problem
On Sunday, May 19, 2002, 7:49:02 AM, Blarp wrote: I get the same errors and it doesn't matter how I send the e-mail in. The attachment process was working just fine with SC up until a few days ago. Now it's not. I've tried with Outlook Express and The Bat. Quoting the spam in the message seems to work fine, using Marck's template example. This copies the original message to a Unix Mailbox File, and then inserts the contents of the file back into the message to SC. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60k on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Archives?
On Sunday, May 19, 2002, 6:22:27 PM, Chris Montgomery wrote: Actually, I just went to the archives again, clicked on the link for Date Index, and then continued clicking on the Earlier Messages links until there were no more links to go to earlier messages. Scrolling down the page, the earliest message was dated May 5th, 2002. Surely there's more somewhere? The same happens with me using the [Earlier] link. If you search by keyword, however, the results will include messages from the whole archive, and not just the recent past. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60k on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SpamCop Encoding problem
On Sunday, May 19, 2002, 6:39:26 PM, Blarp wrote: Can you or someone send me the template example? I just joined the list a few days ago and didn't see it. Here is the content of the template: %SUBJECT=Spam: %OSUBJ %PUT=C:\TEMP\export.txt The first line puts Spam: in front of the original subject (this makes no difference to SC, but makes it easier for me to ID the message). The second line inserts the Unix Mailbox File export.txt into the message. All this in put together in a filter which Marck posted a couple of weeks ago. This is activated by Ctrl-Alt-S and saves the contents of the message to export.txt, puts the message into my Spam folder, and creates a message to SC with the text of the Spam inserted using the above template. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60k on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SpamCop Encoding problem
On Sunday, May 19, 2002, 6:55:25 PM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote: Replying to my own message: %SUBJECT=Spam: %OSUBJ %PUT=C:\TEMP\export.txt This seems to work most of the time, but it just failed on a spam message I was forwarding, as it inserted the Base64 encoding into the message (it was an HTML message) and not the text. So, in the message appeared: [snip] X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal --=_NextPart_000_00A7_24B07B7A.D5103D30 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHk+PGRpdj48Zm9udCBmYWNlPSJBcmlhbCIgc2l6ZT0iMiI+ VGhpcyBtZXNzYWdlIGlzIHNlbnQgdG8gb3VyIHN1YnNjcmliZXJzIG9ubHku [snip] and not the text. I could not even get the text to appear by viewing the source of the original message (F9) as this also showed the encoding. I ended up having to open the Message.htm file in IE and viewing the source, and pasting it back into the massage in TB. Is this something to so with my settings in TB? Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60k on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Manual Filter?
On Sunday, May 19, 2002, 9:14:49 PM, Greg Strong wrote: I just did with it indicated as an active rule, and it did NOT work. So something must be wrong with my read filter. I have not tried the read filter, but a problem I can foresee is that setting the filter as manual only means that you need a way of triggering it. If you use Re-filter Messages, then this will also apply the incoming filters, although maybe this will also apply the read filter? One solution would be to set a Hot Key for the read filter, so that you can trigger it manually using the keyboard. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: filtering on multiple headers
On Monday, May 20, 2002, 2:02:57 AM, Michael L. Cusac wrote:
I thought I could do something like specify mail which does not
match (Received:\s.*?){3} in the kludges, but apparently TB! only
looks in the fields of the headers. Useing 'all' instead of 'kludges'
doesn't seem to work either. Is there any way to filter using the raw
text (source) of the mails, or better yet in the raw header portion?
This is testing my knowledge of Regex to the limits, but I think that
Regex works on a line by line basis. Your filter will look for the phrase
'Received:' in one line (a line being a string terminated by a line
break), which won't match as you want it to.
I am not sure what the solution is. If the mail is being sent direct
to GMX, then you could try to search for messages that have a received
line which does not include GMX.
Julian
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Re: filtering on multiple headers
On Monday, May 20, 2002, 10:27:39 AM, Michael L. Cusac wrote: In general, one RegEx can capture more than one line at a time, but after having tried several ideas I believe you're right that TB!'s RegEx will only look at one line at a time. It would be nice to be able to toggle it to handle multiple lines, but for all I know that would create some kind of programming nightmare for the developers, so I can't really complain. Different brands of Regex handle multiple lines in different ways, or so I have learnt from Jeffrey Friedl and Mastering Regular Expressions (O'Reilly). This is a good read if you want to know more about RegEx. There is also a free guide to Regex on Perldoc.com (search for Perlretut) Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: About 'To:'
On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 10:03:12 AM, Han's wrote: To make it confidence, is it possible if The BAT! sends a lot of e-mail address in one way without through 'CC' or 'BCC' but only use 'TO' path and only the aim customer's e-mail address will show up in that 'TO' path ? From the Help file: If you want to send a standard message to a group of people, yet have the message custom written to every person in the group as if they were the only recipient, you can use The Bat!'s mass-mailing features. Create a Quick Template containing the text of the message and use template macros to create personalised inserts for the message (like first names in greetings, etc.). In the Quick Template editor, tick the Use for new messages / Mass mailing box. In the address book, create a group for the intended recipients for this mass mailing (if you don't already have one). Once you have at least one mass-mailing quick template defined, the Address Book contains a couple of new menu entries: New message using template and Mass mailing using template. Each of these menu options leads to a list of available mass-mailing quick templates. First select your recipient group. Then select the option you want (New message or Mass mailing) and that's it - all done! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Focus on starting TB
Hello tbudl, I have been having occasional problems with TB when I first start it. The main program window will not take focus, so although the Window is there, I cannot do anything with it. Strangely, I can right click and bring up the context menu, but again can get no further. The Message Ticker works, and double-clicking brings up the folder view, but I cannot select messages - buttons will pop out when the mouse travels over them, but cannot be clicked. I have checked for the obvious things - there are no out of view TB windows that have taken the focus (none that I can find anyway) and Alt-Tab does not bring up any windows that I could not see. When this happens, the only solution seems to be to close down TB and start it again. Any ideas? -- Best regards, Julian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: symultaneus pop3 check
On Saturday, May 25, 2002, 4:44:33 AM, Ricardo M. Reyes wrote: If I check again the failed one, it goes ok. It seems to fail when attempting to connect simultaneously to the same server, although I don't know if it's a problem at TB or softhome.net. Anyone had the same problem? Yes, all the time. I was tempted to blame TB, but I think it is the ISP, as I have tried logging onto the servers using Popcorn and I get the same problem. I think that the cause is load on the ISP's servers. The message means that the connection timed out. It would be good if there could be a way of extending the timeout period in TB. I think that I would have had this problem in Outlook, but since the timeout was 1 minute, it was rarely a problem. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Filtering using AND
On Sunday, May 26, 2002, 8:44:12 PM, Jon Lawrance wrote: How do I set up the AND statement in the filters? On the first tab of the filter (the Rule tab), click on [Add]. This adds an additional line to your filter, which is used an as AND statement. The Alternate tab allows you to define OR statements Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60m - State of the art?
On Friday, May 31, 2002, 1:51:25 AM, Bill Blinn, Technology Editor wrote: Sorry Andrea and Marck -- I just don't remember which steps I took or in which order. I do remember that it wasn't neat or easy. I recently imported my address book from Outlook into TB. I exported from Outlook to a CSV file, which I then edited in Excel to get rid of most of the fields - I made sure I was only importing the fields that I wanted, not all the ones that Outlook wanted to transfer. The process went fine, although I only imported names and email addresses, as I still use Outlook as my PIM. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]
On Saturday, June 1, 2002, 12:34:39 AM, Adam wrote: I tried clicking on that mid link. But nothing happened. Does something happen for you? By click, read double-click, at least on my PC. If TB cannot find the message, it pops up a dialog asking where it should look, and if it cannot then find the message, it displays a message saying so. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How does one remove the [#] from replies?
On Saturday, June 1, 2002, 1:59:37 PM, Jack Murphy, III wrote: I'm using the Bat! version 1.53t. I have no intentions of downgrading to 1.60 until it becomes more stable and less buggy. Anyway, I love the Bat!, but there's one thing that majorly annoys me. Is there any possible way of removing the [#] after Re when replying to a message? I.e. Re[2]: Whatever, etc. Any help with this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! In version 1.60m, you need to go into account properties, templates, reply, and uncheck Use Reply numbers in subject line. I don't know if this is the same in 1.53t. You can also use the macro SINGLERE to turn it off in a template. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Signature stripping
On Sunday, June 2, 2002, 2:47:33 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: No ... it's called style I'm using dot-slash-slash as an Ascii Art 'M'. See it now? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator What has happened to your sig. delimiter? It should be -- shouldn't it? I have noticed the same on a few other sigs on the list - is this a new fashion, or is something happening to them at my end? Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60n on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Signature stripping
On Sunday, June 2, 2002, 3:33:57 PM, Jernej Simoni wrote: Didn't you read Marck's message? He's using PGP, and it always escapes lines starting with dash by adding a dash and a space. Obviously I did not read it closely enough... :-) Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60n on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: updating Bat attachment locations when chaning HD folders?
On Monday, June 3, 2002, 2:34:47 AM, Charlie Laidlaw wrote: is there some macro or something that would at least automagically do a text-insert of the name extension of any attachments onto the end of the message? I don't know about the first part, but this is a QT I use for inserting attachment names: = Attachment(s): %ATTACHMENTS **All attachments virus-checked before sending** = Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60n on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Attaching Attachments
On Tuesday, June 4, 2002, 10:26:06 AM, Eddie Castelli wrote: When replying to a eMail that has Attachments (1-5 or more files) - how to include the Attachments to return it to the Sender? BTW - the reply should be without Quotes. I guess the easiest way would be to forward the message (and change the forward template to suite the quoting style you want). Replying does not send back the original attachments. It is interesting how different mail clients handle attachments in replies. Lotus Notes used to send back the original attachments, which was particularly odd since you could not edit and send back an attachment without detaching it and reattaching it after the changes have been made and saved. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60n on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Menu Navigator (was: Server settings?)
On Tuesday, June 4, 2002, 5:36:07 PM, Thomas F wrote: Where (full path)? I didn't find it, even using ther Menu Navigator (which I do like). It's no good; I have to ask - what is the Menu Navigator? As I run Windows XP, I have never seen it. Am I missing anything? In answer to your question, have a look at Options|Preferences|General and look at the bottom tick-box. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Reading calender data from a .pst-file
On Tuesday, June 4, 2002, 6:00:44 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote: I thought it did... or at least it asks you once when the system is first changed that changes have been made that affect the way your system works. Do you wish to restore them?... then never get asked again ;) Or something like that :) You can determine these settings in Outlook by going to Tools|Options and going to the Other tab. In the General section there is a tickbox for making Outlook the default program for Email, Calendar and Contacts. There is also the setting in IE under Tools|Internet Options and the Programs tab, where you can set these options one by one. I don't know how these two locations interact, if at all. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Reading calender data from a .pst-file
On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, 8:49:34 AM, Marcus Ohlström wrote: Not here, all I see under the General section of the Other tab is Empty the Deleted Items folder upon exit and a Advanced Options Nothing about setting Outlook to default mail client or not. And yes, I have checked every option under the Advanced Options... as well, nothing there either. What version of Outlook are you running? It certainly appears in Outlook 2002, but not, I think, in previous versions. The way round it in previous versions is to change the mode of Outlook to No Email, if it is currently in Internet Email mode. (Tools|Options|Mail Delivery and click Reconfigure Mail Support) Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: First 2 lines of message does not display
On Thursday, June 6, 2002, 8:52:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that if I mime-formard the original message to myself, save the attachment, then import it, I can see the first paragraph. Does anyone have any idea why I am not seeing the first paragraph in the ORIGINAL message with the abbreviated headers? i.e. why the first paragraph is displayed ONLY when the full header (RCF-822 headers) is on? I think that the why is the easy part - for some reason, TB thinks that the first paragraph is part of the header, and is not displaying it. TB and other email software identifies the end of the header and the start of the message text by an empty line (a line which only has a new line character on it. Perhaps, as I think that some others have mentioned, there is a space on the blank lines. IIRC, TB will strip surplus spaces when it is reformatting messages, so maybe the message is being reformatted and the spaces stripped at some point in the process of forwarding the message, saving the attachment, and re-importing. Other than that, I don't have a clue. Do you have MS Word or a similar program installed? Display the message with the RCF-822 headers displayed, and then copy all of the text and paste it to a blank document in Word. If Word does not show non-printing characters (tabs, spaces, etc) by default enable this by going to Tools|Options|View and in the Formatting Marks section, select [ALL]. Then check the message, and see if there is anything other than just a paragraph mark on the lines between the Subject: line in the headers, and the first paragraph. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Removing mail list prefixes
On Sunday, June 9, 2002, 2:00:41 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: Also the tech list group are quite helpful with regexp[s] there is one book -- name escapes me @ the moment -- that is an excellent tutorial. The book I have, which I have found very useful, is Mastering Regular Expressions, by Jeffrey E.F. Friedl, and published by O'Reilly (ISBN 1565922573). There is also a web-guide to Regex at http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6.1/pod/perlretut.html Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Additional e-mail folders online.
On Monday, June 10, 2002, 7:15:19 PM, Joseph N. wrote: I don't have an answer for you, but I'm intrigued by the setup. Would you mind sharing the identity of your ISP? Can you send from the ISP's program, i.e., if you were on the road and at another person's computer? The alternative is one of the very small email clients such as Popcorn (about 250K, which runs from a floppy disk, and will allow you to access your pop mailboxes directly). Sending depends what restrictions your ISP has on relaying mail. (Popcorn has vanished from the developers website [www.ultrafunk.com] after they stopped development but it may still be available from Tucows, etc. It is also small enough to email!) Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How to stop system stop sound?
On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 10:56:10 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: A faint bell is ringing (unlike when you receive mail groan). I'm remembering this happening to someone and it turning out to be related to a firewall. Are you running one? If you're running ZoneAlarm - get it out of there! Put in one that works without interfering with other software. If it's not ZA, try disabling it for a bit and see if your beeps go. It was discussed in a thread during May. Try searching for the thread called Turn off the bleeping beep in the TBUDL Archives. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How to stop system stop sound?
On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 11:58:06 AM, DG Raftery Sr. wrote: Have you tried going into Windows Sounds and Multimedia under the Control Panel and disabling Window's sounds, most notably ASTERISK, DEFAULT BEEP and PROGRAM ERROR? Try it and see if that helps. Worked here and took me about 45 minutes to determine what the heck was beeping at me all the time. I am not having these problems at the moment, fortunately, but I would not be happy about turning off system sounds, as they may be trying to tell me about something I need to know! I think from the last discussion that one of the possible causes is a filter producing an error. There was a suggestion that this caused the sound, although I have been unable to reproduce this. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How to stop system stop sound?
On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 6:16:16 PM, Blarp wrote: FWIW, I am running a firewall (Tiny Personal) and it's never caused problems with apps before. There are no filters in place that delete messages. It is definitely the Windows Stop or error sound (thunk). The normal mail errors are Question sounds - I hear them regularly during the day, because my ISP's mail servers often respond slower than TB's time out. You cannot adjust the timeout. Even if I could just change the sound specifically for The Bat (somewhat like how Lotus Organizer allows you to), that would be a step in the right direction since it's always played at least once during a Fetch All and usually 2 or 3 times. You could submit it as a bug - there is obviously something wrong, so TB should tell you want it is. Maybe one of the developers will know what events generate these warnings. The URL of the Bug Report site is at the bottom of this message. Are you sure that it is TB generating the sound, and not some other application that TB is affecting? Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Watch thread?
On Friday, June 14, 2002, 8:57:35 AM, Ben Kennish wrote: OK campaign started. Anyone who wants a watch thread feature in TB!, reply with Aye! What would a watch thread feature do? I used to use the Watch Thread feature in Agent (when I had time to look at newsgroups), but this was in relation to automatically downloading messages of threads I was interested in, rather than just the headers. In the case of TB, I download all the messages anyway. If we are talking about some additional functionality to the existing filters (perhaps the ability to apply colour groups to threads via the existing Shft-Ctrl-F Create Filter dialogue) then I would find it useful. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
The Register - First JPEG virus not a threat
Hello tbudl, Following the discussion earlier this week about whether .jpg files could carry a viral payload, the following article has appeared! http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/25718.html :-0 Julian -- Best regards, Julian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Mail Ticker Not Working
On Saturday, June 15, 2002, 8:05:55 AM, Ben Kennish wrote: If I set the Ticker to be on Always in the settings,I can see it. It's just automatically does not work as the MailTicker does not open when I have new mail (even though the Inbox folder is set to Show unread messages on MailTicker Any ideas? It sounds more like a problem with the display criteria for the ticker. If you right-click on it (you will need to set it to display Always first, you will see a menu item for Messages. Go to that, and check that it should be displaying all message types, and make sure that the time limits are not set so short that the Ticker never appears. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Bug?
On Saturday, June 15, 2002, 6:48:07 AM, Chill wrote: Someone explains me, that she just can't write mails with The Bat! 1.60m or 1.60q. When she clics in the TO field, The Bat! just goes down without any error messages. She is on Windows XP. It is a corrupted address history file. The best way to solve the problem is to go to Options|Preferences and the System tab. Go to the Autocomplete section, and either turn off autocompletion or set it to use the Default or All addressbooks. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60p on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat
On Sunday, June 16, 2002, 5:34:55 PM, Carlo Revelli wrote: Do you know if there is a way to create a filter with a huge list of domain names (and not only with e-mail addresses)? How? Not using the regular Inbox filters. You can load a file for Selective Download filtering, but I think that this would be a very slow way of sorting out spam. Is the spam domain list is the best approach? Spammers change the email addresses and domains regularly, so most of the domains listed will no longer be used, and just slow your filters down. I rely on a small number of rules to delete 90% of the spam I get - I am confident enough of them to use them as Kill rules in a Selective Download filter, although I use an Ignore filter to hold suspicious messages. Those that get through I send to Spamcop, and adjust my filters if required. I am sure you can guess the kind if words to filter on - my kill filter includes: btamail.net.cn 2002 Gov Grants spinformillions email-4-prizes.com Viagra Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Can Not Send Mail!!
On Sunday, June 23, 2002, 3:54:06 PM, Ravi Joshi wrote: Edit Message - Recipients Address Message has not been sent. Server reply Error: Message content rejected. [...] The first time I tried to send this message to the list I received a response I was not recognized as a member...so I had to re-subscribe! It sounds like your account properties may be corrupted. Have a look at Account Properties, and check that you have the correct User Name and Password in the SMTP Server settings, and that you are using the correct SMTP server address. One reason the TBUDL list may be rejecting your messages is that your email address appears different - that is, the messages are being sent with a From: or Reply-To: address that is different from the ones you originally subscribed using. Have you stopped receiving any mail, or just mail from TBUDL? Can you collect mail from TBUDL in Outlook? Check your POP3 server settings as well. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail!!
On Sunday, June 23, 2002, 3:54:06 PM, Ravi Joshi wrote: Edit Message - Recipients Address Message has not been sent. Server reply Error: Message content rejected. [I am sending this to the list and via PM] Was all of this in the error message? Where was the error message? In the TB Account Log? I don't understand the first line of the message - was this part of the error message? On Sunday, June 23, 2002, 11:10:27 PM, Ravi Joshi wrote: As far as I can tell my FROM 7 REPLY TO are the same, however I was messing around ( a couple of weeks ago) with a template for the AVG plugin...don't know if this has anything to do with it but when I was sending test messages I would receive an error message indicating that the message was undeliverable but in the error it had changed my [sender] email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]! I still think that this sounds like an account configuration problem. For some reason, the mail server does not like the mail being sent from TB - when you create a message, and then view the headers (Ctrl-Shft-K) when the message is in the Outbook, are the From: Reply-To: and To: headers what they should be? With the messages from TBUDL, you cannot receive messages from OE or Becky? This suggests that the email address that you subscribed from is not the one that you are checking with your mail clients. Did you get any of the confirmation emails back from the Listar address when you subscribed to the list? Perhaps your current account in TB is corrupted in some way. Try creating a new Account in TB, and re-enter all of the server details and email addresses from scratch. Do not try to import the data - start again. Other than this, I don't know what the problem is. Hope this helps. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Sunday, June 23, 2002, 11:10:27 PM, Ravi Joshi wrote: Still cannot send any mail from TB! but can do so with OE and Becky. I have checked my Account settings, I have uninstalled and re-installed twice and I have installed a backup version of 1.60q. Still nothing works ; (. Well, messages sent to your email address are bouncing, which is why you are getting nothing from the list: The Postfix program [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host smtp.cogeco.ca[216.221.81.25] said: 552 Error: Message content rejected 552 errors sometimes mean that the mailbox is full. You need to log onto your mailbox (try using the Message Despatcher in TB) and see if there are any messages in there, and if there are, delete them. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: MD5 sum for 1.60q *.exe
On Monday, June 24, 2002, 1:58:54 PM, Robert Golovniov wrote: What, then, can be the reasons of such a strange behaviour of my firewall? Does the firewall keep track of applications to monitor for Trojans? What it might be warning you is that the checksum of the original version of TB is not the same as the current one. I get similar behaviour from BlackICE after installing a new TB EXE file - BlackICE will not let it run or communicate with the internal until I give it permission, and will keep doing so until I update the application checksum database that BlackICE maintains. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail Ticker properties
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 6:33:21 PM, Joseph N. wrote: I've 'lost' the place where I can set how long the mail ticker will wait until displaying and then how long it will keep displaying. Where are those settings located?? Right-click on the ticker when it is on the screen (you may need to set it to display all the time), and you will find the time settings under Messages|Age Limits. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 7:56:52 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote: 12. When TBUDL tries to send messages to me they are apparently bouncing. I have now set up through MRB (and am glad to be back!). That truly sounds like a configuration error on their end. For somebody else to get bounces as well? I tried sending a message to Ravi by PM and via the list at the weekend, and the mail to the Cogeco account bounced, with the same message. Interestingly, I just tried again, with a message sent via TB, and one sent via my ISP's webmail service (so avoiding the use of TB). The message sent via TB bounced. The one sent via webmail has not (yet). This would suggest that the Cogeco servers do not like something about messages sent via TB! Very strange. Perhaps Ravi could confirm whether he got a message from me via PM? Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 8:17:59 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote: I'd find it highly unusual for an ISP to block based on email client... in fact highly stupid. Not saying impossible, but highly unlikely. I agree, so it will be interesting to see whether Ravi got the message that I did not send using TB. Messages are also bouncing when they are sent from TBUDL - does this run using TB? Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 10:54:19 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: I'm not sure about the reason behind this, but it surely looks like somebody down there doesn't like The Bat! That is outrageous! This also explains why messages from TBUDL were bouncing, because most people posting are using TB and therefore have the offending mail headers. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, 12:14:59 PM, John Phillips wrote: What logical reason would they have for their bouncing of mail withX-Mailer Bat!? I cannot think of many. One possibility is that they had a lot of problems with spam from someone using TB (heaven forbid!), the TB was the only consistent thing to filter on. Perhaps it is accidental - the filter might look for an ! in the x-mailer: field. Or perhaps they are sponsored by MS! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: GMT Time Stamp
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, 7:37:28 PM, Thomas F wrote: Thanks. I can connect now and get the familiar blank page when IE says done. This time, the last lines were: TR id='text37' style='display:none'TD VALIGN=TOP WIDTH='34'nbsp;/TD TD VALIGN=TOP WIDTH='30'INPUT TYPE='Button' VA You see, it breaks up in the middle of the line. I don't know if this is connected, but there are reports about a BT HTTP server problem causing difficulties for DSL users trying to access websites and send email in some parts of London and the South East (UK). The symptoms seem to be very similar. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AVG didn't catch
On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 1:11:04 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: Hello Marck, Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 4:56:02 AM, you wrote : MDP We just said that in a long thread discussing the plug-in thesis. The MDP middle man approach slows down *all* mail while plug-ins are only MDP called when there is an attachment worth looking at. MDP Please read the recent thread exploring these issue in depth under the MDP topic OT: Antivirus software review. Sorry, new to the list. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AVG didn't catch
On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 4:07:44 PM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote: On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 1:11:04 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: Whoops! I fell asleep at the keyboard (not a comment on my interest in the messages) and managed to send an email when my fingers slid down the keys! I knew I had sent something, but could not find it until it appeared here! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AVG didn't catch
On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 6:07:27 PM, Thomas F wrote: Back to serious mode, what could you have done if you had found out which message it was? Nothing, but I woke up to see the NAV Outgoing Email scanning window disappearing, so I knew I had sent something, but I did not know what or to who. I suppose I was lucky just to have sent a blank message to the list. Antidote emails sound very like an urban legend, although if you are running Exchange server, it is possible to recall messages from within the network. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Selective Downloads - Kill Filter
On Sunday, July 21, 2002, 7:21:29 PM, Douglas Hinds wrote: Use the Mail Dispatcher. Any message containing the string and string location you indicated for selective download will have the Receive box unchecked and (if you've set delete from server immediately) will have the Delete box checked. Yes, I use the Mail Dispatcher in this way, as I have a filter to hold mail on the server as well as the one to delete mail, so I review the server list once a day. Not many spam messages get though, and those that do go to SpamCop and I amend the filters as necessary. That is the way selective download filters work. And very effectively, too. What I would like is an addition in the log file for the account to say that x messages were deleted without downloading - at the moment, it only tells me the number of messages on the server, the number of new ones, and the number downloaded. It does not say how many were deleted by the Kill filter. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Selective Downloads - Kill Filter
On Monday, July 22, 2002, 8:37:09 PM, Ricardo M. Reyes wrote: Unless I'm missing something, the 'number of new ones' less the 'number download' should be equal to the number of deleted messages. You are right, of course: if I go back through the log, I can work out the number of messages deleted! I think that the example I looked at before was particularly complicated, as it included messages that were being held on the server, as well as some downloaded. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Norton Anti Virus 2001 and TheBat
On Sunday, July 28, 2002, 4:47:00 PM, Lynn Turriff wrote: One suspects that it does it so the recipient can see the 'scanned virus free by Norton' note that it puts in the email, but that's pointless too, since you have to open the mail to read it. I have never seen this notice - are you sure it is NAV that puts it on, and not the user? Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: that annyoing beep
On Sunday, July 28, 2002, 6:25:09 PM, Rick Reumann wrote: Yes, I do now remember that message, but shouldn't there be a way to still not have that beep come up? I was hoping to not have to uncheck to have that mail checked while they are doing there service (then I have to remember later to turn the checking back on). I wouldn't even mind a dialog box within the Bat saying that it couldn't connect to a server, since I understand (and would want) some notification if it wasn't connecting. When I'm not in the Bat though I hate having to deal with the beep that comes up. Occasionally servers have some temporary difficulties and it's sort of a pain to have to go and set it to not check while a temporary problem is occurring. This subject has come up before, and I have the same problem from time to time. The problem seems to be that TB has a fairly short timeout of 30 seconds, which is not adjustable. My ISP struggles to respond within this timeout at peak times, so I got a lot of bleeps. As the the solution, there is not one at present, other than turning off the Windows sound for Exclamation. The longer term ones will hopefully appear in TB 2.0: either an adjustable timeout; or the ability to turn off the sound. You could always post a wish at Ritlabs. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Automate the task
On Friday, August 9, 2002, 12:20:54 PM, William Moore wrote: I always use this piece of javascript to (hopefully) avoid detection. The following website has a number of scripts to do the same thing, and it will produce the script for your email address on the fly ready for you to cut and paste into your pages. http://innerpeace.org/escrambler.shtml Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: autoformat?
On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, 1:18:46 AM, ~John wrote: Help! I can't remember how to turn off this irritating auto-format when I'm composing a message. From the TB Help File [Help|Help Topics and search the index for Automatic]: Automatic Text Formatiing You can use the Shift+Ctrl+F key combination to dynamically toggle autoformat mode on and off as you work to allow you to type lists and column formatted text in amongst the formatted paragraphs. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-spam suggestions II
On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, 11:28:20 AM, Blarp wrote: I have seen some small time spammers get TOSd through SpamCop and I'm sure their blacklist is worthwhile but it's not going to reduce your spam if you report things to them. IMHO. I would agree with this (as a paying user of SpamCop). It is probably helpful to report things to SpamCop so that open relays and proxies get identified, but I found that I had far more success at terminating spammer's accounts when I did the investigating and reporting myself. I now have a set of Kill filters that I use alongside Selective Download, so around 40 messages a day are being deleted on the server, and the remaining 1 or 2 I report via SpamCop. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: not to me filter problems
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, 11:07:04 PM, Paul Maunders wrote: I've set up a rule, or should I say filter, that will move any emails where @maundersaa.net|[EMAIL PROTECTED] is not present in the Kludges. The only thing is that it doesn't seem to work. In the sorting office, when you set up your filter, did you go to the Options tab, and select Regular Expressions? Filters do not use Regular Expressions by default. You will also have to escape with a backslash the @ and . in your email address (so they become \@ and \. Look under Create Mail Filters, and then information on Regular Expressions. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks.
On Thursday, August 22, 2002, 8:02:06 AM, Blarp wrote: Since it only gets reported on XP 2000, I wonder if there's something with the permissions. I have TB installed under my account (which has Admin rights). I wonder what it does if installed under a different account with say Power User rights or something? I am running 1.61 under Win XP Pro with Power User rights, and I don't have any problems with periodical checking. A couple of questions come to mind with periodical checking: 1. Are all the problems being experienced on a dialup connection? 2. Does TB start a dialup connection to do a periodical check? 3. Is there anything in the log file to indicate that TB attempted to connect? 4. In anyone experiencing problems with periodical checking with a permanent connection (such as a network connection or DSL)? The answers might narrow the problem down a bit. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Shut down on Periodical Check
On Monday, August 26, 2002, 8:10:21 PM, James Senick wrote: Are there any other mail clients with a dispatcher that allow for redirecting a message straight from the dispatcher? I seem to remember a client that would allow one to choose how many lines of body text the dispatcher would preview... I think that Popcorn might do this - it works only on messages on the server without downloading. It is no longer available from the developers, but if you search for Popcorn you should be able to find it. If not, let me know, and I will email you a copy. It is a 108K zip file, and about 300K unzipped. It has a small .ini file for configuration - no registry settings. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Digest and attached messages
On Wednesday, August 28, 2002, 5:09:11 AM, Tim wrote: Swings and Roundabouts is similar to what goes around comes around, from memory... Here are a couple of explanations I found on a quick Google search. [snip] Both swings and roundabouts are items of playground equipment, by the way. They used to appear in public parks in the UK although both are victims of the risk-aware culture in the UK these days and are now quite rare. I remember spending days trying to get the roundabout up to a speed where the centrifugal force would fling off small children and trying to get the swing to loop the loop in my misspent childhood, so perhaps it is a good thing that are disappearing! Anyway, this is veering OT, so I had better stop now :-) Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Urgent Help with Selective Download
On Saturday, August 31, 2002, 3:51:07 AM, Sudip Pokhrel wrote: Yes. I overlooked that. Thanks. But how do I define a filter: 'Delete all messages with attachments UNLESS they originate from my mailing lists' I don't think that you can using Selective Download, as the filters are not that sophisticated. The way I deal with these situations is to use a kill filter to wipe messages that I *know* I don't want, and then use an ignore filter for all the ones that I need to double-check. These don't get downloaded, and I can check and delete them manually once every few days using the Message Dispatcher (Ctrl-Shift-F2). (Crtl+3 in the Message dispatcher will mark all the messages for deletion, and F2 will zap them, so only a couple of keystrokes are required). Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do you set up account filters?
On Saturday, August 31, 2002, 3:25:47 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: D Thats is kind of what i`m trying to do. But for D this I need a filter option to leave certain D mails on the servers and only download ones D that are addressed to that particular aacount. Filter all msgs to your account move hers to her account automatically via Filter Action. You can re-direct [I believe], copy or export to a unix, TB or txt file. HTH Another option could be to set up a selective download filter in both of the accounts, set up to ingore messages for the other person, so: Account X - Ignore messages for Account Y Account Y - Ignore messages for Account X When account X logs on, only messages for account X will be downloaded, and messages for Y left on the server, and the opposite will happen when account Y logs on. The filter would look like this: Account X: Detect by Entire Header Signal String: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Advanced|Action: Ignore Account Y: Detect by Entire Header Signal String: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Advanced|Action: Ignore Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do you set up account filters?
On Saturday, August 31, 2002, 5:33:38 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: In the above scenario TB! is doing it twice. Its a fine solution but as an academic question, I wonder if there really are any *practical* differences between a selective download [once or twice] a single download with filter actions attached. I think that it does take longer using selective download, but I don't think the difference is too great, because what you loose in the downloading of the headers initially, you gain by not downloading messages you don't want. Downloading the headers is a lot quicker than downloading messages, particularly over a slow connection. Databug's situation is a little different, because all of the messages are going to be downloaded anyway so the downloading of the headers is an additional overhead, but that increase in overall download time is justified by the circumstances. I use selective downloads in two specific situations - as a spam filter on an account that gets a lot of junk mail, and when I am travelling and downloading mail using my mobile phone, when I don't want to download a 500K email message unless I really need to! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Arrow keys and threads
On Monday, September 2, 2002, 10:49:20 PM, Joseph N. wrote: Is there no way to navigate to the next message within the thread other than enabling and clicking the message list? Yes, Ctrl-] works whether the focus is on the message list or the body of the message. It even works if the focus is on the message tree. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronisation
On Friday, September 27, 2002, 1:34:04 PM, Tim wrote: My particular situation is that I normally work on my own computer, but recently I've had to use my mother's computer. I've kept mailbases in synch with Backup and Restore, but last week my mother's computer had a major problem, and as a result I have important emails in each mailbase but not on the server. I see Synchronise as the solution, but if anyone has a better answer, I'm interested. I use synchronisation regularly between my desk-based machine and my laptop. There are two things to note. 1. Synchronisation is *one-way* so if you have messages on each computer, you will need to run synchronisation *twice* with each computer as the target in turn. 2. Synchronisation does not delete anything - so it is ideal for situations like yours, because the worse you can end up with is duplicates, which are easy to get rid of. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid Envelope Question.
On Sunday, October 6, 2002, 11:38:11 AM, Clive Taylor wrote: Yes, I know that Dierk. My point was that the colour indicating the priority of incoming messages is so pale here that I hadn't noticed it before. The colour of incoming, unread messages, is very noticeable (bright red, yellow or blue envelopes). It is only when the messages have been read that the colours go pale and harder to spot. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding several messages as MIME attachments in a singlemessage
On Thursday, October 10, 2002, 3:34:56 PM, Miguel A. Urech wrote: I know for sure that Lookout users can easily do it, and I seem to recall I have done it in the past with TB but I don't remember how :-( Does highlighting the messages, then Specials|Alternative Forward do what you want? Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Account Priviledges
Hello TB! Users, A short while ago, I had a phone call from someone who could not get into their account because they had unwittingly set their account privilege to User, and TB! popped up a User/Password box when they tried to open it. I discovered the hard way how to get back in, having done the same myself in the process of trying to find a solution - the account name is the user, and the password is blank. The problem with this is that this only gives you user access to that particular account, so you cannot then change back to Administrator privilege. After some moments of panic (!) I got round this by using one of my other accounts to get into TB! with, where I had administrator privileges, and I could then set the privileges of the account I had changed to Administrator. What happens if you only have one account set up? If you have selected User privilege, with the default rights (none), and without setting up any User Groups, how do you switch back into Administrator privileges? Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete all messages on server
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, 9:51:17 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: This works well, but at several hundred messages it is tedious work. I have not found a way to get the tickbox delete marked with a keystroke rather than the mouse, and to then move to the next message (also with a keystroke). Keystrokes would help me, they are much more convenient, so if there are any, kindly let me know. The spacebar will work to tick the box, but unfortunately if you move down to the next message using the down arrow, [Spacebar] works on the first ticked box, so if Read is ticked, then [spacebar] will untick this and not Delete. What I am really looking for is an option to delete all messages on server. Does this exist somewhere? Ctrl+3 (1 for Read, 2 for Receive, 3 for Delete and 4 for Open) in the Dispatcher window marks all messages for deletion. It works as a toggle, so you can turn off in the same way, but it also means that it will untick all ticked boxes and tick unticked boxes at the same time. Shift+3 will untick all ticked messages, but this is not a toggle, so you cannot turn the ticks on in the same way. It is good if you have some messages ticked - Shift+2 will untick them all, and Ctrl+2 will then tick them all. For quick deletion Ctrl+2 to untick Receive, and then F2 to execute the dispatch (delete the messages) Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The keyboard shortcuts list
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, 11:22:53 PM, Scott Johnson wrote: I didn't even know there was a ketboard shortcut list anywhere... To help out the newbies here (like me!) could people please post URLs when writing about a site? The URL is posted on the bottom of each message. Follow the link, and at the top of the page you will see a link to the TBUDL FAQ Pages, and on the first page of the FAQ you will see the question Is there a compiled list of keyboard shortcuts? Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bounce Mail
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 10:07:00 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: I'm sorry for being forced to disillusionate you, but this faking bounces ain't fighting spam even in the slightest way. It has nothing in common with any successful spam fighting technology, the effect of bounces and faked bounces on amount of spam is near to zero, not measurable. I wondered about this too. Does the production of spoofed bounce messages reduce the levels of spam any more that just deleting it? I guess that the senders of spam get *lots* of bounce messages, so I am not sure they are going to bother to remove the email addresses that generate bounces. The email addresses that they are most interested in are those that are verified by a response from the owner, because they can be sold as live, and I doubt they could care less about anything else. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error when sending mail
On Friday, December 6, 2002, 3:19:00 PM, Nick Dutton wrote: My SMTP server is mail.cix.co.uk which I know is a bit overloaded these days, is there anything further that I can do to try and see where this problem actually lies? I get these quite regularly during peak times (business hours), although I use Pipex. The underlying problem is a slow response from the mail server, so it is not really a TB! problem. What is a Bat! problem is the fact that you cannot increase the timeout period - the timeout in TB! is set to a shorter period than OL, and therefore timeouts more often. I also use NAV2003, but I am not aware of this contributing to the problem, because it only scans once the connection to the server has been established. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm
On Saturday, December 14, 2002, 2:06:04 PM, Simon Blake wrote: In many respects S/MIME has an advantage, even if I much personally prefer PGP. One considerable disadvantage is the size overhead of S/MIME messages - the signing process seems to add 6k onto the message size, and whilst this might be worthwhile for business communications, where the identity of the individual is important, it does not appear to be worthwhile on TBUDL. At least PGP only adds 1k or so to the message size. I'll leave it to someone else to draw the inevitable conclusion of this... :-) Julian Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm
On Saturday, December 14, 2002, 8:02:38 PM, Simon Blake wrote: Oh, I see, so personal identity is inconsequential? cough Okay! And you consider that TBUDL moderators should decide that PGP should be allowed and S/MIME not? Umm, that's very interesting indeed :) ...although that would be very hard to justify as The Bat! supports both, don't you think? And this is The Bat! user discussion list after all, isn't it? Where new users and old congregate to discuss The Bat! features? g I did not, of course, mean that personal identity is inconsequential, only that the 3k overhead proving it does not seem worth it in the case of a discussion list such as TBUDL. What is important to me on TBUDL is the questions that are asked, and the helpfulness of the replies, not necessarily the identity of the poster. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm
On Saturday, December 14, 2002, 10:16:51 PM, Simon Blake wrote: ACM This is not the case with S/MIME. Can you suppress sending your public ACM key block repeatedly and with every message you send using S/MIME? In ACM fact, this is my main problem with using it. That's not the point here at all really, although it is a valid point of course. So are you suggesting that The Bat! should not support S/MIME? And are you suggesting or leading up to a banning of S/MIME use on the list? I am not sure where you get the suggestion that TB! should not support S/MIME from, because I am certainly not suggesting that. What I am suggesting is that S/MIME signing is not necessary in the context of a discussion list where the identity of the poster is not important. Neither am I suggesting that S/MIME or PGP be banned from the list - merely that posters consider the value of signing messages sent to TBUDL and the bandwidth implications, not least for those on the list who use slow and expensive dialup connections. For the record, I have an ADSL connection, so message size does not bother me, although I do have concerns about the ecology of the internet (which is why I don't like HTML messages). I feel that you may think that this discussion is an attack on your rights to use S/MIME or PGP, which it certainly is not, and I am sorry if I have given you this impression, Simon. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduling message sending
On Thursday, December 19, 2002, 9:28:19 PM, Sean wrote: ACM The /SEND command syntax is documented in the help under 'Advanced ACM Usage Topics/Command Line Parameters'. Thanks Allie! I'll look into setting it up that way at some point. Don't forget that Message Creation time will remain as the time that you sent the message to the Outbox, not the time it was sent from the Outbox, if this is important to you. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
On Saturday, December 21, 2002, 6:52:09 AM, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote: My main computer is a laptop and my backup computer is a desktop. Currently, I use the TB Backup function to create a backup file from my laptop which I then move, using PC Anywhere, to my desktop that I use strictly for backup. After I move the file over to the desktop, I do a Restore in TB. I had a laptop/desktop installation, but my situation is slightly more complex, as I send and receive email from both computers (although not at the same time) with different account settings and I have problems keeping the two in synch. In your situation, however, I would suggest that using the TB! backup or synchronize functions is not the best way to achieve what you want - I would use an independent backup program for this, and copy the whole of your TB folder to the desktop. The backup/restore process works fine. It brings over all the new messages; however, it also keeps all previous messages, many of which have been deleted from my laptop--or moved from one mailbox to another. Yes, this is a problem. Synchronize does not appear to copy filters, so I find that unless I manually copy across all my filters and folder structure, I end up with messages in different folders on different machines, and lots of dups. I also use different account settings on both machines, so I cannot simply copy across the complete laptop installation. Before writing this, I went to the list archive and found Allie Martin's great explanation from January 2002 which seems to deal with the same problem I'm having. Her instructions were much clearer than the instructions in the Help Menu for the Maintenance center. Allie is a he, as you will see from the Rogues Gallery on the FAQ pages. :-) Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, 3:11:56 PM, Andy Holt wrote: 2. (for ex-Outlook 2000 users) Being honest, are there any things that OL 2000 does that you cannot do in TB!, that you miss? I moved from Outlook 2002, and I cannot now think of anything that I miss particularly, apart, maybe, from the ability of Outlook to track shared documents, etc. That is a theoretical issue, because in reality I never used it anyway. I still use Outlook for my contacts and diary (I have not got round to finding a suitable replacement that will work with my Palm), and there is no easy way of synchronising address book entries, but this is not a major problem. Some of the things that I can do with TB! out of the box, I had to spend a lot of money on with Outlook. For example, I used Email Templates in Outlook (a costly add-on that cost more than TB!) which had 1/2 the functionality and 1/4 of the ease of use of TB! templates and filters. - I cannot export folders back to OL .PST files - this makes a migration more risky As others have suggested, don't allow TB to delete mail from the server. You can then download it into Outlook as well, just in case you want to go back. I did this for a couple of weeks, although I purchased the full version of TB a day after I downloaded it, because I knew there was no going back! I've also not been massively impressed with stability / quality. The uninstaller doesn't work, for a start, and I've had a few 'crashes' (didn't bother recording the details...) Thoughts on this? No problems here with crashes, and I haven't had to use the uninstaller yet! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...? (PIM's; OT)
On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 3:42:13 PM, Joseph N. wrote: Anyone who is not interested in Outlook should look into IBM/Lotus Organizer. It's quite powerful despite its ease of use; it syncs flawlessly with Palms (can't vouch personally for other types of handhelds); and it imports/exports info from other programs smoothly. Although Organizer is very good, I cannot seem to keep my appointment category data in the move from Datebook to Org, so cannot use it. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I love the Bat , but why can't the Bat allow me to edit HTMLdocuments or read my USENET news groups. Standard Email features
On Saturday, January 18, 2003, 5:57:35 AM, Allie Martin wrote: So when using TB!'s backup, watch out for any errors that are reported. If errors are reported, don't rely on the backup since you could lose mail or the backup will not restore. You'll have to first fix your installation, provided you found where the problem is, and trust the backup only if it has occurred without any errors. I use the backup facility to maintain a historical version of TB that I can go back to if I find that I have deleted something I may have needed. For a backup of my current installation, I use 12Ghosts Backup (http://12ghosts.com/ghosts/backup.htm) which maintains a full copy of my /MAIL folder once an hour (this can be set to any value) to a second HD which I use for general backups. The program only copies files that have changed since the last backup, so it does not have a noticeable impact on system performance. This second HD is removeable, so if I am going away, I take it out and put it somewhere safe, away from my PC. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL - this very list
On Saturday, January 18, 2003, 11:50:32 AM, Miguel A. Urech wrote: What is a Catch-22? I'm asking seriously, because I don't know what it means. http://www.webster.edu/~barrettb/heller.htm Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
