Re: TB not exiting properly
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, May 29, 2020, 9:31:58 AM, you wrote: PB> Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB> Friday, May 29, 2020, 1:14:07 AM, you wrote: DS>> Thursday, May 21, 2020, 2:03:55 PM, you wrote: S>>> Hello, S>>> Thursday, May 21, 2020, 11:25:26 AM, Melissa wrote: I suppose the only potentially useful aspect of mentioning my past and current experiences is that these issues don't seem to happen consistently, and I have no idea why/why not. S>>> Thank you! S>>> It helps to know that it's not a setting I somehow messed up. S>>> Never had the problem with previous versions. DS>> Hello Susanne, DS>> I have done fresh installs of Win10 twice in the past 6 months. DS>> The Bat! is one of the first programs I install. Both times, DS>> right after installation, The Bat! fails to close properly, and DS>> continues to close improperly. Most annoying. PB> The Bat has its own backups. PB> You can useTools - Restore PB> Good luck! -- Paul - Using The Bat! v9.2.1 on Windows 10.0 Build 18363 ...For people who like peace and quiet: a phoneless cord. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB not exiting properly
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, May 29, 2020, 1:14:07 AM, you wrote: DS> Thursday, May 21, 2020, 2:03:55 PM, you wrote: S>> Hello, S>> Thursday, May 21, 2020, 11:25:26 AM, Melissa wrote: >>> I suppose the only potentially useful aspect of mentioning my past and >>> current experiences is that these issues don't seem to happen consistently, >>> and I have no idea why/why not. S>> Thank you! S>> It helps to know that it's not a setting I somehow messed up. S>> Never had the problem with previous versions. DS> Hello Susanne, DS> I have done fresh installs of Win10 twice in the past 6 months. DS> The Bat! is one of the first programs I install. Both times, DS> right after installation, The Bat! fails to close properly, and DS> continues to close improperly. Most annoying. The Bat has its own backups. You can useTools - Restore Good luck! -- Paul - Using The Bat! v9.1.18 on Windows 10.0 Build 18363 ...I am in shape. Round is a shape. Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [T/N: 66B196C9]: Upgrading procedure
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Saturday, June 1, 2019, 9:09:59 PM, you wrote: IAW> G'day, IAW> Hope this is OK to post here. IAW> As you can see, I am using a rather old version of The Bat! I did have IAW> a discount coupon, however with a few things going on at the moment, I IAW> put things off until it would appear that the offer has now lapsed. IAW> Ok, my fault, but one issue was that it was not clear what the amount IAW> of the discount was, and then even how to redeem the discount coupon. IAW> Also as an upgrade, would it mean the version I currently have would IAW> no longer be able to be used, and did I have to install the new IAW> version to use the discount coupon or could I have purchased the IAW> upgrade using the coupon to then install it later when things were not IAW> so critical? IAW> Ah well, never mind, stuff happens. Maybe I'll get another coupon in IAW> years to come, so any information would be valuable in the off chance IAW> that an offer comes up again. IAW> Thanks in advance. While you wait for the experts, I found that the upgrade is smart enough to keep all you old info. It worked like that after my computer crashed. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v8.6 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Wilson's Law of Commercial Marketing Strategy- As soon as you find a product that you really like, they will stop making it. Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
not reading emails from apple system
Suddenly no longer reading email content from Apple systems Anyone else having this problem? -- Paul - Using The Bat! v8.2.8 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...A lot of people mistake their imagination for their memory. Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: U/G to v8
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, November 23, 2017, 7:29:18 AM, you wrote: RG> Hello Fellow Bats RG> Is the u/g to v 8 (from v7.4.16) an important or recommended u/g? RG> Will all my settings carry forward or, if not, what will I lose? RG> Best regards, RG> Rich Gregory RG> -- RG> Random tagline: RG> Cannot open file "c:\progra~2\thebat~1\sigs.txt" RG> Using The Bat! v.7.4.16 RG> RG> Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: RG> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html All my settings carried forward seamlessly. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v8.0.8 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...A baby-sitter is a teenager acting like an adult while the adults are out acting like teenagers. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to new version
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Wednesday, November 15, 2017, 1:40:29 PM, you wrote: T> Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 5:40:20 PM, you wrote: >> on Tue, 14 Nov 2017 00:21:44 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: MM>>> After you have installed version 8, we would recommend you to manually MM>>> create a shortcut on the desktop to point to C:\Program Files\The MM>>> Bat!\thebat64(or 32).exe, and then drag this shortcut to the taskbar. T> Peter, T> thanks but I am confused. This explains how the program is easily T> started after the installation. I am wondering how to install the new T> version. The idea is of course that my existing accounts, templates T> and other customizations remain. That's why I asked if I need to T> uninstall first, then install and import a backup or if I can install T> over the existing program. No problem here. It kept all the settings seamlessly. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v8.0.8 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Time flies like an arrow - Fruit flies like a banana Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OTF encryption
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Sunday, September 10, 2017, 12:47:57 PM, you wrote: TF> Hello Paul, TF> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:55:48 +1000 GMT (10-Sep-17, 06:55 +0700 GMT), TF> Paul Berger wrote: JSL>>>>>>> I recently had to supply my accountant with my banking information via email. JSL>>>>>>> Fortunately the account in question rarely has more that $2000 in it so even if JSL>>>>>>> the message were intercepted, I wouldn't lose very much. The account has no JSL>>>>>>> overdraft protection. JSL>>>>>>> So I wondered, is it possible to send an encrypted email to someone who has no JSL>>>>>>> encryption in use on his email client? If so, how? PB>>>>>> I use 7-zip to create a self-extracting zip file wilth password and PB>>>>>> then email it. JSL>>>>> But then don't you have to give the recipient the password? I must be missing JSL>>>>> something. PB>>>> Yes - you are quite right- I do this in a separate email. JSL>>> It seems that if the encrypted email was intercepted wouldn't you assume that JSL>>> the subsequent password email might also be intercepted? JSL>>> Regarding 7-Zip; is it necessary to use a zipping program in order to JSL>>> password-protect a file or files? Is there no way from within TB! to encrypt an JSL>>> email without zipping it first? JSL>>> Thanks for your patience with this. >> Thank you, Jack. >> Yes - there is a facility to use PGP. It would need putting >> in time to relearn how to use it. >> I normally use encryption at the end of each month when backing up all >> my data onto cloud storage like mega.nz.. So am used to it. >> https://mega.nz/login >> You are quite right - I would need to tell the recipient the password >> verbally or by separate email (a bit of risk there as you say). TF> I agree that the password should be sent by another means - we used to TF> use fax, but SMS or a chat program will do, or, as you say, the good TF> old phone. TF> However, encrypting anything means that nobody who does not have the TF> password can decrypt it. So, the accountant needs the password, hence TF> it has to be transmitted. And he also needs the software to decrypt TF> it, be it 7zip or PGP. Probably too much for a one-time use. TF> What I did when I had to send log-in data to one of my company TF> accounts to an accountant is that I sent him the login by email and TF> the password by another means. So he did not need to install any TF> software and learn how to decrypt. This is not as safe as sending him TF> the login by encrypted mail, but even if encrypted, I would not send TF> the login and the password on one single email. TF> Just my two cents. Thank you, Thomas. Now everything is clear. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OTF encryption
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Sunday, September 10, 2017, 12:47:57 PM, you wrote: TF> Hello Paul, TF> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:55:48 +1000 GMT (10-Sep-17, 06:55 +0700 GMT), TF> Paul Berger wrote: JSL>>>>>>> I recently had to supply my accountant with my banking information via email. JSL>>>>>>> Fortunately the account in question rarely has more that $2000 in it so even if JSL>>>>>>> the message were intercepted, I wouldn't lose very much. The account has no JSL>>>>>>> overdraft protection. JSL>>>>>>> So I wondered, is it possible to send an encrypted email to someone who has no JSL>>>>>>> encryption in use on his email client? If so, how? PB>>>>>> I use 7-zip to create a self-extracting zip file wilth password and PB>>>>>> then email it. JSL>>>>> But then don't you have to give the recipient the password? I must be missing JSL>>>>> something. PB>>>> Yes - you are quite right- I do this in a separate email. JSL>>> It seems that if the encrypted email was intercepted wouldn't you assume that JSL>>> the subsequent password email might also be intercepted? JSL>>> Regarding 7-Zip; is it necessary to use a zipping program in order to JSL>>> password-protect a file or files? Is there no way from within TB! to encrypt an JSL>>> email without zipping it first? JSL>>> Thanks for your patience with this. >> Thank you, Jack. >> Yes - there is a facility to use PGP. It would need putting >> in time to relearn how to use it. >> I normally use encryption at the end of each month when backing up all >> my data onto cloud storage like mega.nz.. So am used to it. >> https://mega.nz/login >> You are quite right - I would need to tell the recipient the password >> verbally or by separate email (a bit of risk there as you say). TF> I agree that the password should be sent by another means - we used to TF> use fax, but SMS or a chat program will do, or, as you say, the good TF> old phone. TF> However, encrypting anything means that nobody who does not have the TF> password can decrypt it. So, the accountant needs the password, hence TF> it has to be transmitted. And he also needs the software to decrypt TF> it, be it 7zip or PGP. Probably too much for a one-time use. TF> What I did when I had to send log-in data to one of my company TF> accounts to an accountant is that I sent him the login by email and TF> the password by another means. So he did not need to install any TF> software and learn how to decrypt. This is not as safe as sending him TF> the login by encrypted mail, but even if encrypted, I would not send TF> the login and the password on one single email. TF> Just my two cents. Thanks, Jack. It is all very helpful. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...I can't be overdrawn, I still have cheques left! Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OTF encryption
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Sunday, September 10, 2017, 2:19:29 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello Paul, JSL> On Saturday, September 9, 2017 you wrote: PB>> Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB>> Saturday, September 9, 2017, 3:21:01 PM, you wrote: JSL>>> Hello Paul, JSL>>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 you wrote: PB Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB Saturday, September 9, 2017, 1:20:17 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> I recently had to supply my accountant with my banking information via email. JSL> Fortunately the account in question rarely has more that $2000 in it so even if JSL> the message were intercepted, I wouldn't lose very much. The account has no JSL> overdraft protection. JSL> So I wondered, is it possible to send an encrypted email to someone who has no JSL> encryption in use on his email client? If so, how? PB I use 7-zip to create a self-extracting zip file wilth password and PB then email it. JSL>>> But then don't you have to give the recipient the password? I must be missing JSL>>> something. PB>> Yes - you are quite right- I do this in a separate email. JSL> It seems that if the encrypted email was intercepted wouldn't you assume that JSL> the subsequent password email might also be intercepted? JSL> Regarding 7-Zip; is it necessary to use a zipping program in order to JSL> password-protect a file or files? Is there no way from within TB! to encrypt an JSL> email without zipping it first? JSL> Thanks for your patience with this. Thank you, Jack. Yes - there is a facility to use PGP. It would need putting in time to relearn how to use it. I normally use encryption at the end of each month when backing up all my data onto cloud storage like mega.nz.. So am used to it. https://mega.nz/login You are quite right - I would need to tell the recipient the password verbally or by separate email (a bit of risk there as you say). -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OTF encryption
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Saturday, September 9, 2017, 3:21:01 PM, you wrote: JSL> Hello Paul, JSL> On Friday, September 8, 2017 you wrote: PB>> Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB>> Saturday, September 9, 2017, 1:20:17 AM, you wrote: JSL>>> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL>>> I recently had to supply my accountant with my banking information via email. JSL>>> Fortunately the account in question rarely has more that $2000 in it so even if JSL>>> the message were intercepted, I wouldn't lose very much. The account has no JSL>>> overdraft protection. JSL>>> So I wondered, is it possible to send an encrypted email to someone who has no JSL>>> encryption in use on his email client? If so, how? PB>> I use 7-zip to create a self-extracting zip file wilth password and PB>> then email it. JSL> But then don't you have to give the recipient the password? I must be missing JSL> something. Yes - you are quite right- I do this in a separate email. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...I know Karate, Kung Fu, and 47 other dangerous words Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OTF encryption
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Saturday, September 9, 2017, 1:20:17 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> I recently had to supply my accountant with my banking information via email. JSL> Fortunately the account in question rarely has more that $2000 in it so even if JSL> the message were intercepted, I wouldn't lose very much. The account has no JSL> overdraft protection. JSL> So I wondered, is it possible to send an encrypted email to someone who has no JSL> encryption in use on his email client? If so, how? I use 7-zip to create a self-extracting zip file wilth password and then email it. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Law of the Theatre- At any event, the people whose seats are furthest from the aisle arrive last. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 9:10:58 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? Have a look at: https://www.howtogeek.com/133761/the-best-free-programs-and-online-services-for-sending-and-sharing-large-files/ I use box.com. Maximum file size is 250 Mb for the free account. https://community.box.com/t5/How-to-Guides-for-Managing/Maximum-File-Size-Limit-for-Uploads-to-Box/ta-p/307 -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...All I ask for is the opportunity to prove that money can't make me happy. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of memory error
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 9:10:58 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> My wife tried to attach an .MP4 video (which resided on her desktop) to a new JSL> email and received an "out of memory" error. I had her close then re-start TB! JSL> but the same thing happened again. Any ideas why this would be happening? Have a look at: https://www.howtogeek.com/133761/the-best-free-programs-and-online-services-for-sending-and-sharing-large-files/ -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...All I ask for is the opportunity to prove that money can't make me happy. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: line/paragraph break
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, June 23, 2017, 5:08:18 PM, you wrote: T> sorry, not sure what I did before but ALT+L now works and T> this is what I was looking for T> there are heaps of shortcuts like this and I only use very few so to T> forget even those is rather embarrassing. Good luck! We are lucky to have The Bat. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...On the other hand, you have different fingers. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: line/paragraph break
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, June 23, 2017, 2:05:04 PM, you wrote: T> Hello Everyone, T> I am having a brain freeze and cannot remember the command T> for a line / paragraph break when writing an email. T> I thought it was something like alt + L or some other combination but this does not work and T> not being able to remember this drives me insane. T> Can anyone rescue me? Good luck! I use \n in my cookies and they work fine but now find that they don't work in the message itself - like aaa\nbbb -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bulk delete
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, May 11, 2017, 6:44:44 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> Is there a way to bulk delete messages from a particular email address? I spent JSL> two weeks in the hospital and have amassed a slew of emails from FaceBook which JSL> I don't particularly care about. I'm thinking like CTRL>SELECT or CTRL_A. Until you get expert advice, you can create a filter to put all FaceBook messages into a FaceBook folder - then select them all and delete. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.16 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Always proof-read carefully to see if you any words out. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why sending a document makes it Read Only
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, March 13, 2017, 5:38:43 PM, you wrote: WP> The file is not changed. When you open it from TB it is saved WP> temporarily and made readonly. It's a file attribute. WP> Am 13. März 2017 06:18:34 MEZ schrieb Paul Berger : >>Sending a Word document .docx seems to turn it into a Read Only >>document. >> >>Any idea why this happens? >> >> >>-- >> >> >>Paul >> >>- >> Using The Bat! v7.4.4 on Windows 7 >>6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 >> >>...Some people hear voices, some see invisible people, >> others have no imagination whatsoever. >> >> >>--- >>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> >>Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: >>http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Many thanks, Paul -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.4 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Random thought: "A computer is almost human - except that it doesn't blame its mistakes on another computer." --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Why sending a document makes it Read Only
Sending a Word document .docx seems to turn it into a Read Only document. Any idea why this happens? -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.4.4 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Some people hear voices, some see invisible people, others have no imagination whatsoever. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispamsniper
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Tuesday, November 29, 2016, 7:48:30 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello Richard, JSL> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 you wrote: RN>> Hello Goos, RN>> Wednesday, November 16, 2016, 2:01:14 PM, you wrote: G>>> The problem is, I don't know (anymore) which of the two versions I G>>> have. In ma program, under 'About' it states that the program is G>>> registered on my name, on the other hand, I do not see the term G>>> 'Pro' for the commercial version. Any tips? RN>> I'm pretty sure that if it is registered it is the pro version. But RN>> supp...@antispamsniper.com should get you the authoritative answer. JSL> I am considering installing A-SS but don't know whether I'm using a 32 or 64 bit JSL> TB!. It's v6.0.12 if that helps. Do you know how to find out? I use AVAST Internet Security and it stops spam. Think it slows down my computer so might try Vipre next year. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.1.18 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...God gave you toes as a device for finding furniture in the dark. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book Question
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Tuesday, May 17, 2016, 2:54:16 PM, you wrote: MG>>> I'm trying to add a new group to my address book which I haven't MG>>> done in years, but TB keeps making the new group a sub-group of whatever group is highlighted. MG>>> My current groups are, for example: Friends, Family, First Week. MG>>> I want to add a Second Week as a group on the same level as First MG>>> Week. But TB keeps creating the group under First Week. MG>>> How can I add another group at the same level as the others? >> Am using version 7-1-8 >> You have to Highlight Personal Address Book at the top and then right >> click to go ahead and add new group. >> Hope this works for you. MG> There is no Personal Address Book at the top. At the very top is MG> my first group. Nothing above that. MG> Mike MG> MG> Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: MG> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Hope someone else can help. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.1.18 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...To get something done, a committee should consist of no more than three people, two of them absent. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book Question
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Tuesday, May 17, 2016, 2:05:22 PM, you wrote: MG> I'm currently using version 6.4.0.2 (32-bit) with Windows 7. MG> I'm trying to add a new group to my address book which I haven't MG> done in years, but TB keeps making the new group a sub-group of whatever group is highlighted. MG> My current groups are, for example: Friends, Family, First Week. MG> I want to add a Second Week as a group on the same level as First MG> Week. But TB keeps creating the group under First Week. MG> How can I add another group at the same level as the others? MG> Thanks. MG> Mike Greenbaum MG> -- MG> MG> Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: MG> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Am using version 7-1-8 You have to Highlight Personal Address Book at the top and then right click to go ahead and add new group. Hope this works for you. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.1.18 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...I tried to drown my problems but they can swim! Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Save Ritlabs
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Tuesday, May 3, 2016, 7:19:37 PM, you wrote: FW> Hello Paul, FW> On Sun, 1 May 2016 15:01:06 +1000GMT Paul Berger wrote: PB>> Good news - Version 7-1-18 - Have just downloaded it. PB>> You can now install it over the top of the old one without having to PB>> first uninstall the old one. FW> This is the case for ages, I never uninstalled the older version FW> before installing the new one and never had problems with that. Thanks Feli, I had this in my documents - must have been a long time ago - when I did need to first uninstall. Fortunately no longer needed. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.1.18 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Be true to your teeth and they won't be false to you. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Save Ritlabs
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Sunday, May 1, 2016, 5:38:07 AM, you wrote: S> Any more developments on this? I see they are still making updates to TheBat. S> Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 4:09:29 PM, you wrote: MM>> Passionate Bats, MM>> Yes, they're missing Christmas, but people must be hungry and MM>> cold too? MM>> Here is a link to the situation in Moldova as recounted in The MM>> Economist: MM>> http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21660165-banking-scandal-set-bankrupt-europes-poorest-country-gutted MM>> So our idea of crowdfunding was probably useless unless the funds MM>> can be sent to a bank in Romania, or...? MM>> Word from a friend came today regarding an analogous situation: J>>> We have a friend who just got back from a 2 year Peace Corps J>>> stint in Moldova. A group of “business people” <...> pretty J>>> much cleaned out all of their bank reserves, and foreign aid J>>> has been suspended because most of it is stolen. The whole J>>> finance sector there is under emergency decrees with most of J>>> the laws suspended. Ritlabs probably did not bribe the people J>>> who needed to be bribed. MM>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:19:44 AM you wrote: G>>> Maxim, Hi Maxim, Yes, we are passionate users. We're on board with whatever help we can do, but our congressmen here in NC are useless for this - they seem to be more interested in building walls, not helping others. But would outside pressure on Moldova (human rights comission) really do any good? You may have to physically move out of Moldova. Can you reincorporate somewhere else? Lichtenstein? EU? Isle of Man? Crowdfunding may help in the short term. G>>> It is true, international pressure might not help much. And if it did, in the long G>>> term, you still need to find a place to live where things like that are not done. G>>> Within the EU somewhere? G>>> And, if you don't have TB source code stored somewhere on the internet, like G>>> DropBox, you must get those hard drives back or it is all over. G>>> But, if you do have the source code safely stored, I would get out of there now G>>> and don't look back. That would be me. We were just talking the other day that TB! is one of only two programs we have that seems to be uncorrupted. Be strong! On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 4:15:50 PM you wrote: MM> Dear Passionate Supporters, MM> You've been with us since 1998 (and even before)! We need MM> you help to save our company from an abuse. This abuse can put an end to the company. MM> Since September 2015 our company, Ritlabs, SRL is being MM> abused by police and prosecutors. We have experienced similar MM> attempts before, but now they have taken an acute form. On MM> September 14, 2015 the Police performed search, authorized by MM> a judge, in our office, and seized hard disk drives from all MM> computers, and on December 4, upon authorization of the same MM> judge, they ordered to permanently block all our bank MM> accounts. The judge’s orders in both cases were issued in MM> closed hearing, where we could not present our arguments. MM> There is no such a law in Moldova to permit for a Moldovan MM> court to allow an ex parte suspension of a bank account. But MM> this law was violated in case of Ritlabs, SRL. We have filed MM> an appeal on December 8 and today we have prevailed. The MM> Appeals Chamber has quashed the court order that has blocked MM> our bank accounts. However, we still didn’t get a written MM> decision that we might have shown to the bank. So we still MM> cannot make payment. And the Police and the Prosecutors can MM> make new searches and seizures and block accounts again, for MM> them it is incredibly easy. Our company, Ritlabs, SRL, is not MM> a party of this criminal case. While our accounts are MM> blocked, the employees are not able to receive wages that we MM> transfer monthly to their bank accounts, and we are unable to MM> make any other payment, for example a payment to the hosting provider of our servers. MM> We think it is a deliberate attempt to destroy our company. MM> If our accounts are blocked for more than 30 days, we will be MM> forced to declare insolvency and liquidate and we will not be MM> able to develop or support The Bat! any further. MM> How can the users of The Bat! help save the company and the MM> product, and make it to be developed better and faster? MM> Please ask your local representative to send a diplomatic MM> letter to a Moldovan embassy in your country to ask to MM> recognize due process rights in any criminal proceeding MM> related to Ritlabs, SRL, its employees and its assets, its MM> bank accounts. Ask to recognize the legislation of Moldova MM> and the international conventions of Human Rights. MM> For example, if you ar
Re: Anti Spam Sniper removal
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Wednesday, March 23, 2016, 1:38:00 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello Feli, JSL> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 you wrote: FW>> Hello Jack, FW>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:54:56 -0500GMT Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL>>> Ok, now that I've tried A.S.S. and don't wish to purchase it at this time (maybe JSL>>> later), anybody know how to remove it so I don't have to keep seeing those nag JSL>>> boxes every time I start TB!? FW>> If you are happy with the functionality why not switch to the free FW>> version? (It's in the middle of the download page). I've been using FW>> it for years before I decided to pay for this excellent work. JSL> Well, before I started getting nag messages telling me my 30 day trial was up, I JSL> thought I *was* using the free version. JSL> Mistakes were made, tears were shed. I'll go back and take another look Feli but JSL> for those 30 days I don't think I even saw any spam. I'm assuming if A.S.S. had trapped JSL> any spam I would have been given the option to handle it so maybe I just didn't JSL> get any spam during that 30 days. JSL> Anyway, thanks again for your help. You might try http://www.snapfiles.com/get/revouninstaller.html -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.1.6.0 (Christmas Edition) on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with S P A M
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, February 15, 2016, 9:23:28 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> I've been pretty much free of spam for a couple of years now but just lately JSL> I've started getting it from clothing stores. No idea why as I don't buy clothes JSL> online. I used to use K9 but eventually discovered that K9 was preventing me JSL> from receiving large messages. I probably could have tweaked K9 to allow large JSL> messages but I really didn't need it anymore so I ditched it. JSL> So, can I get some recommendations on what plays nice with TB and is an JSL> effective spam blocker? Cannot help directly but I use https://mailnull.com/ to create disposable addresses. Avast does a good job but it is commercial and sets your payment details to automatically renew. Also slows down everything. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v7.1.6.0 (Christmas Edition) on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...You can't have everything...where would you put it? Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book configuration
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Tuesday, September 15, 2015, 9:58:05 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello TBUDL'ers, JSL> I thought I could make the address book easier and faster to use if I created JSL> sub-groups under the default PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK which is one of the options JSL> appearing when you click on the address book icon. Creating the sub-groups was JSL> not a problem and they all show up attached to and below the PERSONAL ADDRESS JSL> BOOK. After filling each sub-group with it's own addresses, I went to each JSL> sub-group and ticked the FAVORITE box for each address. Once this was done I JSL> could click on the down arrow next to the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE icon in the JSL> toolbar and every address book entry that had it's FAVORITE box ticked would JSL> appear, as expected. Next I right-clicked on each sub-group, selected PROPERTIES JSL> and ticked the box marked ADD ITEMS TO THE INSTANT ADDRESS POP_UP. This results JSL> in nothing but sub-groups appearing when you click on the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE JSL> icon down-arrow. You can then cursor down to whatever sub-group you want and as JSL> the cursor rested on a sub-group, a drop-down box would appear with the JSL> selections ALL ITEMS and the addresses which had their FAVORITE boxes ticked. JSL> Perfect! It worked exactly as logic told me it should work. Except as I found JSL> out later, logic doesn't always work with TB!. If you make a change to an JSL> existing address or add a new one (to any sub-group), all of the sub-groups JSL> disappear from the drop-down list next to the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE icon. Your JSL> addresses still exist in the address book however. You have to right-click each JSL> sub-group and select PROPERTIES and un-tick the ADD ITEMS TO THE INSTANT ADDRESS JSL> POP-UP box. From there you can un-tick FAVORITE on any address you don't wish to JSL> appear when you click on the down-arrow, and they will no longer display. Only JSL> those addresses whose FAVORITE boxes are still ticked will appear. JSL> I have a total of 59 addresses separated out into 6 sub-groups and HAD every JSL> FAVORITE box ticked on each address. I work around the problem by having just my JSL> most-used addresses FAVORITE boxes ticked so that only they show up when I click JSL> on the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE down-arrow. Now if I need a lesser-used address I JSL> have to open the address book. JSL> It was such a beautiful arrangement and it worked so well. JSL> Ideas? I use a more primitive system that requires me to use the address book when creating an email. I have no problem when changing items. It works this way: Have groups in the main address book and put in all the addresses into their basic/main group. Create groups for particular purposes like zGiggles, zHealth, zTravelShare. Then for each individual use the groups button in the address book to add them into their respective special-purpose groups. Then for each new email, use the address book to use any of the special-purpose groups. Apart from all this, for those individual addresses in the main groups that I want to have as Favorites, tick the Favorites box. They then appear on the right-click in the To: header. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete messages - Adress book empty
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, August 13, 2015, 3:26:56 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello TBUDLers, JSL> I have managed to cure the stated problem regarding not being able to delete JSL> messages by doing a deep un-install of TB using Revo then re-installing the JSL> 5.2.2 msi file. The only problem remaining is my empty address book(s). I JSL> copied all .ABD files to a safe location before I deleted TB (even though I JSL> couldn't access the address books at the time) and have checked to see that they JSL> contain my addresses by doing a hex dump of the files. I then copied them into JSL> C:PROGRAM FILES(x86)\THE BAT!\ and JSL> C:\USERS\JACK\APPDATA\ROAMING\THE BAT! all JSL> to no avail. Can I get TB to recognize these files and restore access to all my JSL> addresses? JSL> Many thanks in advance, JSL> Jack JSL> OS: Windows 7 Home JSL> JSL> Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: JSL> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Don't know if this is any help, but Tools - Restore - lets you restore Address Books from a backup. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Please write your complaint legibly in this box -->[]. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete messages - Adress book empty
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, August 7, 2015, 11:25:41 PM, you wrote: JSL> Hello fellow TBUDLer's JSL> Something happened yesterday which has cause me to lose my entire address book JSL> and I am now prevented from deleting messages. In addition, my new message JSL> "favorites" drop-down list is now empty. It looks as though the address book JSL> and the drop-down list have reverted back to a brand new installation in that JSL> the only address book entry is one for RIT Labs support which I assume would be JSL> included in a brand new installation. The drop-down list contains only "new JSL> template" and "quick templates". Again, as I assume it looked when TB was first JSL> installed. JSL> I can no longer delete messages. Selected messages DO disappear when the trash JSL> can is clicked on or the DELETE key is pressed but as soon as I change focus to JSL> another folder and back to the folder where I did the deletes, all of the JSL> deleted messages are still there. JSL> Windows System Restore won't run because some file is supposedly corrupted and a JSL> re-installation of TB on top of the existing proved in-affective. I am JSL> considering deleting the current installation of TB and trying the re-install JSL> again. JSL> The only thing I can think of which may have played a pert in this is my JSL> download and test of something called Wise Care 365 which is supposed to "clean JSL> up" and "speed up" your PC. I foolishly allowed it to delete registry entries JSL> which it deemed "clutter" and other non-registry junk files. I have no way of JSL> knowing if that program was the culprit (it has since been deleted) because JSL> several hours elapsed before I went back to TB and discovered the problems. JSL> Needless to say, any help will be greatly appreciated. JSL> Sincerely, JSL> Jack LaRosa JSL> TB! ver. 5.2.2 PRO JSL> Win 7 HOME JSL> JSL> Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: JSL> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html If it is any help: Can you roll back changes in Wise Care 365? If you have a backup of TheBat, try uninstalling it with something like Revo uninstaller, and then reboot, re-install and restore from the backup. Good luck! -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Text pastes selected
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, June 1, 2015, 12:18:06 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello TBUD Listers, JSL> I have noticed that the editor (Plain Text MicroED) now has an JSL> automatic "select" whenever I paste some text into a message. In JSL> other words, if I paste some text into a message, the pasted text is JSL> automatically selected. If I'm not paying attention, the next JSL> keystroke of course replaces the text I just pasted. To clear the JSL> select I have to place the cursor in a blank space of the message and JSL> double-click, making sure I'm not in the middle of a word lest *it* JSL> then be selected. Should that happen, once again if I'm not paying JSL> attention, the next keystroke replaces that word. This can always be JSL> avoided by click-pause-click which will de-select the pasted text and JSL> *not* select anything else. JSL> This started some time ago and I've finally gotten annoyed enough to JSL> solicit help from the list. I seem to remember when pasted text JSL> merely got pasted and not pasted/selected at the same time. JSL> Is there a setting somewhere that controls this? I can't imagine ever JSL> having a use for such a setting. Maybe change - along bottom border - to Plain Text (Windows) each time. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...If at first you don't succeed read the manual. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorting filters not working consistently
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:02:34 AM, you wrote: A> Hi, A> I rely on filters extensively in a number of different mail A> accounts. Most of the time they work as expected. However, in A> one account, which is dedicated to third-party vendors with whom I A> do business, some of the filters no longer seem to be working, even A> though the text for which the filters searches has not changed. A> Here is an example: A> I have done business with Hampton Hotels and now get their A> promotional e-mail. The "from" field for each message from this A> vendor is: "Hampton Hotels" . A> I have a filter that searches sender for "hamp...@h1.hilton.com " A> It used to work, but not any more. A> I tried to add a filter that searched the header field "from" for A> "Hampton Hotels" But that didn't help. A> I compared the RFC-822 headers from a message for which the filter A> worked with the RFC-822 headers from a message that did not get A> filtered and saw no difference between the two for the fields in A> question. I have a similar problem with about seven other A> filters. Any idea as to why I am having this problem? Other A> filters for this same account seem to be working fine. Don't know but try Header - includes - any of - Hampton Hotels -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular? Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup question
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Saturday, May 23, 2015, 4:11:56 AM, you wrote: MG> I'm currently using version 6.4.0.2 (32-bit) with Windows 7. MG> I backup my Bat every day at around 5:30 pm with The Bat backup MG> utility that places a .tbk file in a folder on my C drive. MG> Each night, that .tbk file gets backed up to an off-site cloud location through IBackup. MG> If my computer totally crashed and I had to get a new computer, MG> am I correct in saying that I could then download whatever the MG> current version of TheBat! is and restore the .tbk file and have MG> my Bat program be exactly the same as before the crash with all MG> the emails available and readable, etc? MG> In other words, is the .tbk backup fill all I need to be functioning again? MG> I ask this because I've noticed that in my user folder under MG> AppData||Roaming there are a number of TheBat! files. One of the MG> Roaming files has the name of my account, and it's 2.2 gb in size. MG> Do I need to back these Roaming files up as well, or are all of these in my .tbk file? MG> Thanks. MG> Mike Greenbaum MG> -- MG> - MG> No virus found in this message. MG> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com MG> Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7242 - Release Date: 03/24/14 MG> MG> Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: MG> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Yes, the .tbk file is all you need. I do manual back ups regularly and have in the past been able to restore fully. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Money is the root of all evil. Send $30 for more info. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming mail size?
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, April 13, 2015, 9:04:56 PM, you wrote: TH> Hello Jack, TH> Sunday, April 12, 2015, 3:14:35 PM, you wrote: >> Hello Tony, >> As a test, I ticked the box and then set my wife's "Receive header >> only if message is greater than:" to 12000KB. I then composed an >> email of about 18MB in size and sent it to her. She was able to >> receive all her other messages at that fetch along with an "email" >> from TB. The TB "email" told her that she had a message on the server >> that exceeded her preset. >> So, if she ever gets any more very large emails TB won't choke on them >> and she will be able to receive any other emails present during that >> particular fetch. Problem solved. >> TH> I've never actually seen this message. How does she retrieve the giant TH> email? You click on the link - this takes you to the item in webmail - you then decide to Receive or to Delete. Receive then downloads the big email. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...A lot of people mistake their imagination for their memory. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming mail size?
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Sunday, April 12, 2015, 12:10:18 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello Paul, JSL> JSL> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 you wrote: JSL> PB>> Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB>> Saturday, April 11, 2015, 9:44:19 AM, you wrote: JSL>>> Hello TBUD Listers, JSL>>> Is there a limit on the size of incoming emails set by TB? I recently JSL>>> had sent to me a couple of emails each of which contained about 15MB JSL>>> worth of attachments. TB choked and wouldn't download any of the JSL>>> emails from the server because of this. JSL>>> I had to go to my ISPs server and manually download each attachment so JSL>>> that I could delete those two emails from the server. Once that was JSL>>> done TB was able to fetch the remaining emails. JSL>>> I checked settings and properties everywhere I could find but saw JSL>>> nothing pertaining to any limit on email size. PB>> Check: PB>> Account - Account Properties - Mail Management - PB>> See if there PB>> is no tick in Receive header only if message is greater than ... PB>> ( I use this to stop emails greater than 1000 kb) PB>> Also see if your ISP has set a limit. JSL> Well, I checked and there is NO tick in that option but it's not clear JSL> to me what that option really means. "Receive header only if message JSL> size is greater than..." seems to imply that a message header (what's JSL> a message header?) will never be received if it doesn't meet a certain JSL> size requirement. And then what happens if that option is not ticked JSL> as in my case? JSL> JSL> -- JSL> Best Regards, JSL> Jack LaRosa JSL> :usflag: Central Alabama JSL> JSL> Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. JSL> Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 JSL> JSL> JSL> JSL> JSL> JSL> JSL> Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: JSL> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html When message exceeds my limit, I receive a message giving me a link to click on. This takes me to the the item in the webmail showing: From, Subject and Size, where I can choose to Receive it or to Delete it. After doing that, the link expires.. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Ever wonder what the speed of lightning would be if it didn't zigzag? Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming mail size?
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Saturday, April 11, 2015, 9:44:19 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello TBUD Listers, JSL> Is there a limit on the size of incoming emails set by TB? I recently JSL> had sent to me a couple of emails each of which contained about 15MB JSL> worth of attachments. TB choked and wouldn't download any of the JSL> emails from the server because of this. JSL> I had to go to my ISPs server and manually download each attachment so JSL> that I could delete those two emails from the server. Once that was JSL> done TB was able to fetch the remaining emails. JSL> I checked settings and properties everywhere I could find but saw JSL> nothing pertaining to any limit on email size. Check: Account - Account Properties - Mail Management - See if there is no tick in Receive header only if message is greater than ... ( I use this to stop emails greater than 1000 kb) Also see if your ISP has set a limit. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...When it rains, why don't sheep shrink? Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing icons
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Sunday, December 28, 2014, 8:45:09 AM, you wrote: LSB> The icons in my tool bar while composing a new message (or a reply) LSB> have gone missing. Particularly, the Send button is gone. I cannot LSB> figure out how to get them back. LSB> I have not seen any traffic on this list for several weeks. Possibly I LSB> turned of the list before a trip abroad last October, but, if so, I LSB> haven't a clue how to turn it back on. I could use some help on this LSB> matter as well. LSB> Thanks. Maybe try right-click at right of the toolbar that shows Message, Edit, search etc. and tick Standard. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...I M a tru beleever in hour edukashun sistum. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Print Setup - How add list of CC recipients
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Tuesday, November 11, 2014, 3:39:09 PM, you wrote: bemc> Hello Paul, bemc> Paul Wrote:- bemc> Message - Print Setup - Template bemc> Here I have bemc> From: %FromName <%FromAddr> bemc> To: %ToName <%ToAddr> bemc> Date: %ODateEn %OTimeLongEn bemc> Subject: %Subj bemc> -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- bemc> %Text bemc> How do I add the list of CC recipients? bemc> + bemc> would this help? bemc> -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- bemc> From: %FromName <%FromAddr> bemc> To: %ToList bemc> CC: %CCList bemc> BCC: %BCCList bemc> Date: %ODateEn %OTimeLongEn bemc> Subject: %Subj bemc> Attached: %ATTACHMENTS bemc> -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- bemc> %Text bemc> -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- bemc> also, for page numbers - bemc> - %PAGENUMBER of %TOTALPAGES - Yes, many thanks. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Down with ignurance! Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Print Setup - How add list of CC recipients
Message - Print Setup - Template Here I have From: %FromName <%FromAddr> To: %ToName <%ToAddr> Date: %ODateEn %OTimeLongEn Subject: %Subj -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- %Text How do I add the list of CC recipients? -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...I'm at the corner of Walk and Don't Walk. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't enter registration code block
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, October 3, 2014, 1:21:29 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello MFPA, JSL> On Thursday, October 02, 2014 you wrote: >>> On Wednesday, October 01, 2014 MFPA wrote: M I just searched my computer, and randomly seem to M have a copy of "thebat_pro_5-2-2.msi" that Windows M tells me is about 16MB. No guarantees its any good, M but I could send it to you if you want. Maybe that M would accept your registration key. >>> I would forever be in your debt if you could send that >>> to me. It's certainly worth a try. Failing that I'll >>> contact RIT Labs. M>> Sending now, if my server doesn't time out before it completes. So far M>> I have managed to send 64% in six minutes. (-: JSL> My thanks again for sending the v5.2 msi. I made a backup of TB! and JSL> then used Windows Un-install to remove v5.8.8. Not sure if I had to JSL> do that but I didn't know if you could go backwards without JSL> un-installing the newer version first. At any rate, I used your v5.2 JSL> msi to re-install TB!, apparently successfully. I was surprised to JSL> find that everything was still there without my having run "restore JSL> from backup" yet. Folders, messages, filters, all seem to be there. JSL> I still have not "restore(d) from backup" and don't see any reason to. JSL> Un-fortunately the problem with the key block is still there. The JSL> first 56 characters of the block are there as soon as I open the JSL> registration dialog box. And again, deleting those 56 characters and JSL> pasting in the whole keyblock yields the same error message (bad code JSL> block, bad, sit). I sometimes use humor as a defence mechanism (it JSL> doesn't always work). JSL> In addition, you mentioned the possibility of the anti-virus (McAfee) JSL> hanging up the displaying of some messages when clicked on. As an JSL> experiment, I disabled both the McAfee firewall (for 15 minutes) and JSL> the McAfee anti-virus. It made no difference, some messages still JSL> suffer delays before displaying. I was never a fan of McAfee and I JSL> don't know why. I've always used AVG and never had a problem with it. JSL> I'm considering removing McAfee from the computer and installing AVG. JSL> I have not yet tried any of the suggestions regarding disabling the JSL> touchpad as that is the least of my problems right now. If I don't JSL> get her Bat! fixed, well, I try not to think of things like that. Before you tear your hair out, if you want to live dangerously, you might use Revo to do the full uninstall. From http://www.snapfiles.com/get/revouninstaller.html During the uninstall, you may get a pop-up from TheBat to interfere with the uninstall - just ignore and let Revo finish the job. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...It's bad luck to be superstitious. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editor settings - where?
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Tuesday, March 4, 2014, 2:30:05 AM, you wrote: M> Hello Paul, >> See attached screenshot of my Account / Properties menu. >> M>>> Can't see the screenshot, I think attachments are not allowed in TBUDL. M>>> Anyway, you mention Account/Properties and the Viewer/editor settings M>>> are in Options/Preferences. >> >> No problem seeing attachments on my older version. Perhaps your >> settings in security programs are causing the problem. M> I can also see attachment with no problems. What I said, or meant to M> say, wah that I could not see the 'intended' attachment because M> attachments are not allowed in this list (TBUDL). Good luck! -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Professionals built the Titanic, amateurs built the ark. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editor settings - where?
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Sunday, March 2, 2014, 10:14:43 PM, you wrote: >> See attached screenshot of my Account / Properties menu. M> Can't see the screenshot, I think attachments are not allowed in TBUDL. M> Anyway, you mention Account/Properties and the Viewer/editor settings M> are in Options/Preferences. No problem seeing attachments on my older version. Perhaps your settings in security programs are causing the problem. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...It said "Insert disk #3", but only two will fit! Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup files
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, January 9, 2014, 7:28:58 PM, you wrote: LSB> Even though, within TheBat, a daily backup occurs, the backup file, LSB> C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\TheBat!\Autobackup.tbk\ is not being LSB> copied to my external backup device (a memory stick) at all. My system LSB> backup procedure has multiple tasks defined for every directory LSB> (folder) that I want to backup, including a task for the directory LSB> (folder) that contains Autobackup.TBK. Whew! That is a mouthful. LSB> Note that this backup file is located in TheBat! directory and not in LSB> the TheBat!\Backup directory. The TheBat!\Backup folder is, in fact, LSB> empty. LSB> Note also that in the TheBat! directory there is a series of files, LSB> Autobackup.$1, .$2, .$3, .$4 and $.5, each one larger than the LSB> previous one and each one with a later creation date starting in LSB> October, 2012 when I have work done on the computer through November, LSB> 2013. LSB> As far as I can tell, the backup for TheBat is: LSB> --Standard LSB> --No file name entered in the window for Backupfile LSB> So, while TheBat is being backed-up at one level, the backup is LSB> unprotected insofar as it is not copied to an external medium in the same LSB> way that all of my personal files are backed up. The task to backup LSB> TheBat! runs every night, but does not copy Autobackup.TBK to the LSB> external medium. LSB> My question is: why does my backup task not recognize that LSB> Autobackup.TBK is newer than the one on the backup medium. After all, LSB> it is recreated every night. LSB> (Once I solve this problem, I will probably come back to the list to LSB> ask for advice about the relative merit of Standard or Incremental LSB> backup.) LSB> Thanks for you patience in reading this long note. LSB> Leonard I gave up on automatic backup of The Bat and use manual backup to the file that I nominate in My Documents. So my automatic backup of my data etc. works fine. (It has rescued me in the past.) -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Money is the root of all evil. Send $30 for more info. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 3:41:12 PM, you wrote: JK> Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 7:16:34 PM, you wrote: >> Maybe you have TB! Home and don't currently have the "International >> Pack" installed? JK> Correct! I've now downloaded both those. Do I just run the installer" Since JK> my TB is 4.2.36, I presume I should install the 4.0 version rather than JK> 4.2.28. Right? The International Pack is a separate program so you can uninstall it later if you don't like it. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Law of Logical Argument-Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, December 13, 2013, 5:45:47 PM, you wrote: T> On 12/12/2013 you wrote: >> Actually you have to drag the shortcut all the way down into >> the task bar before you'll see that "pin to task bar" >> message. If the task bar is accessible with the window from >> whence it came still open, you can just drag it straight >> down into the task bar from that window. I didn't know if >> you had the TheBat folder opened full screen or not. You >> don't really have to drop the shortcut on the desktop first >> as I suggested earlier. And, just to make sure, even if the >> task bar is locked the shortcut can still be dropped into >> it. I just checked. T> I'll give it another shot then .. Thanks again! Note that The Bat now uses its old icon for the task bar and its new one for the desktop - 2 different icons for the same program. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Me, indecisive? I'm not so sure about that. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:30:09 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello Paul, JSL> On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote: PB>> Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB>> Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote: GS>>> Hello TBUDL, GS>>> I have a few questions. GS>>> 1) Has there been many problems with the new v6? PB>> Only one little annoyance. PB>> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar. JSL> Huh? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can JSL> create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no JSL> problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar. Thanks - just tried again and it now works. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Afraid of heights? Not me, I'm afraid of widths! Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:58:11 AM, you wrote: PVN> 12/8/2013 7:51 PM PVN> Hi Paul, PVN> On 12/8/2013 Paul Berger wrote: PB>> Only one little annoyance. PB>> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar. PVN> On the System Tray at the right end of the TaskBar PVN> Click on "Customize" Thanks now OK. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Experience is the name I give to my mistakes Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote: GS> Hello TBUDL, GS> I have a few questions. GS> 1) Has there been many problems with the new v6? GS> 2) Is there a separate download for the 64bit version of TB? I saw GS> Maxim's email on 64bit version on TBBeta, hence question. GS> 3) Has anybody upgraded to the 64 bit version of TB without problems? GS> Sorry I haven't been keeping up with the list. Too busy! GS> I have upgraded the old WinXP to Windows 8 64 bit version earlier this GS> year. Just upgraded to Windows 8.1 from Windows 8.0 with BAD GS> experience. I thought it unusual for the upgrade of Windows taking GS> well over the 1-2 hours per instructions. After the upgrade I found it GS> unusual that a Citrix window was open when I only use Citrix to log GS> into work remotely. I have huge concerns with security for work. After GS> the upgrade I also didn't like the fact that I had to log onto MY PC GS> using a Microsoft account rather than my password. GS> Thank goodness for old disk imaging software for backup because I've GS> now downgraded back to Windows 8.0. Given the bad experience with GS> Windows I thought it appropriate to ask the question above before GS> upgrading TB. GS> Still using TB email client on my main PC after all these years. :) GS> Take Care! Only one little annoyance. In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Our business is run on trust. We trust you will pay in advance. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encryption
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Saturday, September 7, 2013, 1:07:20 AM, you wrote: GG> Hi, GG> is there a kind of encryption which don't need at first reading a long GG> documentation? GG> I've installed GNU-pgp but simply don't know how to go further. GG> I've skimmed the documentation, but didn't get a clue. GG> Isn't there a software which automatically encrypts mails and the GG> reciever can read it with a password I give him or her. Similar to GG> what's possible with PDF docvuments. GG> This is an old note - you would have to try it nowadays: OpenPGP 7 July 2005 This software is built into The Bat! already. To exchange encrypted email, each party must create a key set ( a public key and a private key). In the Bat!, Tools –OpenPGP-OpenPGP Key Manager Keys tab, New Key You create your own key. Use 1024 key encryption. Need to use a pass phrase. Preferably not short, e.g. a poem or line from one, to be kept secret, tho could put in KeyText with control-shift key. E.g. Example 1: Willy Wonka meets the Terminator Example 2: willywoNKA meet$ the^ terMIN@tor You need to select the key in OpenPGP Key Manager and Export (the public key) it to a file. Then email that to other party, who then Imports the key to hes system. You need to receive other party’s public key and Import it to your system. When sending an email, Privacy- OpenPGP-Sign and encrypt entire text. The Bat! Help files- Privacy covers this. The keys are filed in PubRing.pgp and SecRing.pgp in TheBat!\MAIL folder. The file “How to use PGP” in PB Documents-Security is detailed about PGP in general (not about OpenPGP). (Forget about GnuGPG) Have deleted keys and am not using any of this at present. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.4 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...I M a tru beleever in hour edukashun sistum. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup; location timing; system impact
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:02:20 PM, you wrote: LSB> 1. I want to be sure my backup file is backed up to my flashdrive. In the LSB> backup window, no file is listed. When I "browse" I am taken to TheBat LSB> directory. There is one file, autobackup.$4 that was modified last LSB> night at 7:05 pm. That is about when the backup finished. There is LSB> also a file, autobackup.tbk that was modified at 7:06 two nights ago. LSB> I assume that this is the previous backup file the was "flipped" when LSB> last-night's backup started (or finished). Correct? LSB> However, there are a couple of older files, autobackup.$3, LSB> autobackup.$2 and autobackup.$1. Can these be deleted safely? LSB> 2. I cannot find any place where I can set the time for the backup. Right LSB> now, it is set for 7:00 pm (or when the computer wakes up after 7:00 LSB> pm). How can I change that. LSB> 3. Finally, I have noticed that, when the backup is in progress, there is LSB> a noticeable hit on system performance, about 25% CPU, based on a Task LSB> Manager reading. Is that normal? LSB> Thanks. I don’t use automatic backup, but you might look at: Options – Preferences – System – Auto backup -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.4 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Pedestrian: A motorist who found a parking space Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying and backing up the Address Book
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Tuesday, May 14, 2013, 1:35:23 AM, you wrote: LSB> On Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:29:23 AM, you LSB> (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: >> In the Address Book - >> File - Export to - Address List (Plain Text) >> This produces a .txt file of the address book >> If you wish to copy only a selection: >> Select the addresses you want in the usual way with Shift - >> Mouse left click or Control = Mouse left click >> Then >> File - Export to - Export Selection - In the save As box, choose >> Address Lists (Plain Text) >> You can choose other formats from the available list. LSB> Now that I know how to perform this export, I see that the resulting LSB> list is not in the same order as my address book. (I did a plain text LSB> export, not a comma separated version that I can load into Excel and LSB> resort.) LSB> I suppose that, appearances to the contrary, my address book is not LSB> sorted the way it came out in the .txt version. On what field should I LSB> resort the Address Book so that the export looks like the Address LSB> Book? LSB> Thanks Hopefully the experts will offer a solution. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...I'm writing a book. I've got the page numbers done. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying and backing up the Address Book
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, May 13, 2013, 6:56:59 PM, you wrote: LSB> (I am already using TheBat's backup facility, and about a year ago, I LSB> had to restore from the backup file.) LSB> Now, I am interested in being able to copy or export the Address Book LSB> so that I can view it outside of TheBat. This copy/export effort, LSB> secondarily, would offer me the possibility of backing up the Address LSB> Book separately. Is there any way to do that? LSB> Thanks. In the Address Book - File - Export to - Address List (Plain Text) This produces a .txt file of the address book If you wish to copy only a selection: Select the addresses you want in the usual way with Shift - Mouse left click or Control = Mouse left click Then File - Export to - Export Selection - In the save As box, choose Address Lists (Plain Text) You can choose other formats from the available list. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Afraid of heights? Not me, I'm afraid of widths! Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: associating The Bat with Google Chrome
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 12:42:40 AM, you wrote: JSL> Hello Paul, JSL> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 you wrote: PB>> Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB>> Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 7:01:48 PM, you wrote: A>>> When ever there is a web link embedded in an e-mail and I click on A>>> that link, Internet Explorer is used to open the web page. How do I go A>>> about changing this so that the default browser is Google Chrome A>>> (which loads wy faster!). I cannot find anything in the A>>> preferences window that would allow me to change this. PB>> Something like this: In Internet Explorer - Tools at top right - Internet PB>> options - Programs - Internet programs - Set program - Set your default PB>> program JSL> Wait a minute. I thought TB! always used whatever the operating system's JSL> default browser was. If so, while running Chrome click on the far right icon JSL> (looks like three horizontal lines) to get the drop-down menu which contains the JSL> SETTINGS sub-menu. That first screen in that sub-menu has an option to make JSL> Chrome the system's default browser. JSL> Or, I am completely missing the point here. Well done! -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: associating The Bat with Google Chrome
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 7:01:48 PM, you wrote: A> When ever there is a web link embedded in an e-mail and I click on A> that link, Internet Explorer is used to open the web page. How do I go A> about changing this so that the default browser is Google Chrome A> (which loads wy faster!). I cannot find anything in the A> preferences window that would allow me to change this. Something like this: In Internet Explorer - Tools at top right - Internet options - Programs - Internet programs - Set program - Set your default program -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Experience is a good school, but the fees are high Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, January 28, 2013, 6:26:57 PM, you wrote: GG> Hi David, >>> where in the The Bat settings can I find my registration key? >> It is in the registry. GG> Thought so... but where? >> I have just had to a crash repair, and did the following >> Install TB! >> Restore from a backup >> Install key from mail. GG> As I wrote, Acronis can't access the image from an external GG> harddisk. And the whole mailbase was involved - the repair GG> company simply formatted the second drive to install Linux there. GG> So my only chance is to restore the key from the registry if I knew GG> where to find it. There must be a way to use Acronis to do a backup onto external drive so as to be able to restore from it. If not, use http://download.cnet.com/Paragon-Backup-Recovery-Free/3000-2242_4-10972187.html This has worked fine for me, but need to reinstall everything if changing operating system, like XP to 7. Glad you solved your problem. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Pedestrian: A motorist who found a parking space Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sort folders
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, January 10, 2013, 9:45:35 PM, you wrote: AS> Hi, AS> ist there a way to sort the folder list, e.g. alphabetically? AS> After backing up and restoring an account, the order seems pretty AS> random. Simple sort would be an interim solution. AS> Regards, AS> Alto AS> AS> Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: AS> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Right-Click on a folder for Move options or use the Shift-Control moves on the keyboard. Don't know about alphabetical sort. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...He who sitteth on an upturned tack shall surely rise. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CA Root certificate
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, October 26, 2012, 3:50:22 PM, you wrote: JSL> Hello Paul, JSL> On Thursday, October 25, 2012 you wrote: PB>> Hello TBUDL@thebat., PB>> Friday, October 26, 2012, 10:57:15 AM, you wrote: LSB>>> On Thursday, October 25, 2012, 7:18:32 AM, you LSB>>> (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: One guess: Make sure your computer is showing the correct date. LSB>>> Do you think it is not showing the correct date? My sense is that the LSB>>> date and time are synched somehow automatically. LSB>>> Leoanrd PB>> It is easy to check. In Windows you look at bottom right of screen to see if PB>> the date is correct. You can right-click on the date and then left-click on PB>> Adjust date/time. JSL> Apparently Windows won't update the clock unless the date is already correct. JSL> See: JSL> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_date_it_overview.mspx?mfr=true JSL> I have no idea if the clock has anything to do with CA Root certificates. In one case the computer battery was flat so that the date was ancient creating this problem. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...The nicest things in life are either unhealthy, immoral or make you fat. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CA Root certificate
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, October 26, 2012, 10:57:15 AM, you wrote: LSB> On Thursday, October 25, 2012, 7:18:32 AM, you LSB> (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: >> One guess: Make sure your computer is showing the correct date. LSB> Do you think it is not showing the correct date? My sense is that the LSB> date and time are synched somehow automatically. LSB> Leoanrd It is easy to check. In Windows you look at bottom right of screen to see if the date is correct. You can right-click on the date and then left-click on Adjust date/time. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...If you don't know where you're going, you're never lost. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CA Root certificate
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, October 25, 2012, 6:01:11 PM, you wrote: LSB> One of our accounts cannot retrieve mail. The error message is: LSB> !10/25/2012, 02:57:05: FETCH - TLS handshake failure. Invalid LSB> server certificate (The CA Root certificate LSB> is not trusted because it is not in the Trusted Root CA address book). LSB> How can I fix this? LSB> Thanks. One guess: Make sure your computer is showing the correct date. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...I tried to drown my problems but they can swim! Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Executing a manual rule trough the contextual menu...
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Saturday, September 29, 2012, 1:01:10 PM, you wrote: >> Hello TBUDL@thebat., >> Friday, September 28, 2012, 8:12:45 PM, you wrote: ... >> You might consider a multi-clipboard program. 101Clips has a free >> version. I use Keytext - a commercial program. R> I use Arsclip which lets you make permanent clips and will pick up R> graphics and save them if you wish http://www.joejoesoft.com. Grab R> Rename master while you are at it as it is the BEST out there and they R> both are freeware Thanks for the info. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...If at first you don't succeed read the manual. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Executing a manual rule trough the contextual menu...
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, September 28, 2012, 8:12:45 PM, you wrote: SB> Hi, SB> I use some rules activated via a hotkey... example, i have a SB> rule to automatically resend a mail to a colleague and then move SB> the mail in an archive folder, another to pass the mail to an SB> external script to inject into a database,... it's easy : one SB> hotkey and all is done, i do not need to enter the email address of the colleague,... SB> The problem is : choosing and remembering the right hotkey... SB> thus i was thinking : in place of a hotkey, could it be possible SB> to execute the rule trough the contextual menu ? Like SB> "right-clicking on the mail and choosing the rule in a list in the SB> menu" ? It would be great to add functions to TB! without programming AddOn... SB> Is it possible to do that with the current version of TheBat!, or SB> could it become a feature request ? You might consider a multi-clipboard program. 101Clips has a free version. I use Keytext - a commercial program. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...A witch prefers a broom because nature abhors a vacuum Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing buttons
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Saturday, July 7, 2012, 12:32:05 AM, you wrote: M> Hello Paul, >> Until the experts reply, right-click on the top toolbar to make sure >> the Edit toolbar is ticked. M> You mean the _Standard_ toolbar, don't you? That's the one Leonard is M> missing. Yes, thanks. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Help, I've fallen and I can't... Hey, nice carpet! Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing buttons
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, July 6, 2012, 10:13:26 PM, you wrote: LSB> In Editing Mode, the buttons in the group on the very left have LSB> suddenly disappeared. Must be something that I hit accidentally. This LSB> is the group that contains "Send Now." I poked around in the Toolbar LSB> maintenance, but did not see anything that applies. LSB> How can I restore these buttons? LSB> Thanks. Until the experts reply, right-click on the top toolbar to make sure the Edit toolbar is ticked. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...How do you write zero in Roman numerals? Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adding account to two computers
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, July 6, 2012, 5:13:50 PM, you wrote: A> Hi, A> We use two computers for The Bat in our home office. Each pc has an A> identical account list. Each downloads mail independently from the A> same servers. I recently added a new mail account to the list of A> accounts on one computer. I attempted to add this same account to the A> other pc by copying and pasting the account folder from one pc to the A> other using windows explorer. However, when I opened up The Bat on A> the second pc, the new account does not show up. A> What did I do wrong and how can I fix this? Do I have to create from A> scratch the new account on the second PC as well? A> FWIW, both computers have the same version of The Bat: 4.0.18; the A> first pc uses Windows XP Pro SP3, while the second pc uses Windows 7 A> Home. While you wait for an expert answer, you might do a complete backup of the new account (tools-backup etc.) and then restore this on the second PC. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ..Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: confirmation receipts
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, July 2, 2012, 2:13:18 PM, you wrote: A> Hi, all, A> Does The Bat have a functionality that allows a sender of a message A> to receive automatic confirmation that the recipient has opened the A> message? A> I will occasionally receive in Outlook e-mail from colleagues, that, A> when opened, also opens up a pop-up dialogue box that asks me if I A> want to send confirmation of the receipt of the message to the A> sender. Does this functionality exist in The Bat or, is it even A> possible to know if the message was opened without providing the A> recipient the option of confirming or not confirming receipt of the A> message. A> I will soon be sending "hold the date" e-mails to a large group and A> it would be nice to know which people in the group at the least, opened up the A> e-mail. A> Thanks for any help you can provide. Account - Properties - Templates - New message At foot of window you can tick: Receipt Request Reading Confirmation Note also that as an individual user you can set it to ignore such requests from senders: Account - Properties - Templates - Reading Confirmation - Ignore -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...If a train station is where the train stops, what's a work station? Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox analyzer
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Friday, June 22, 2012, 4:16:00 PM, you wrote: RT> Hello Paul, >> Any idea what this pop up is? And how to stop it? RT> Well, it analyzes your 'Inbox' :-) RT> After that it would suggest to create folders for some of your RT> contacts and create filter to sort mails into them. Things like that. RT> Unfortunately the feature is not really ready yet. RT> If you want to disable it: Options|Preferences|Other Options|Inbox RT> Analyzer. Thank you! Solves the problem. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Blessed are the pessimists, for they make backups! Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Inbox analyzer
Any idea what this pop up is? And how to stop it? -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v5 Upgrade Experience
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, January 5, 2012, 11:44:46 AM, you wrote: TF> Hello Paul, TF> Thursday, January 5, 2012, 7:50:17 AM, you wrote: PB>> Good luck. PB>> I installed version 5 yesterday relying on people's positive comments. PB>> I have only 5 sets of filters for one account, but all is working just PB>> fine. TF> Are you using POP or IMAP? POP. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.0.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...You can't have everything...where would you put it? Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v5 Upgrade Experience
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, January 5, 2012, 2:50:14 AM, you wrote: TF> Hello Ian, TF> Wednesday, January 4, 2012, 7:24:37 AM, you wrote: IAW>> RITLabs don't want to describe releases as BETA because they are not IAW>> betas. They describe them as ALPHA yet the list footer added keeps IAW>> saying TF> An ALPHA version is a crude attempt at fixing bugs or adding new TF> features. It will be tested thoroughly in-house, to see whether it TF> fixes the issues addressed. TF> Once the in-house testing has been completed successfully and the TF> developers believe that everything works fine, a BETA version is TF> released to external testers. The reason is that everybody uses a TF> software differently, and even though the ALPHA testing concluded that TF> all is fixed, BETA testers will invariably find things that haven't TF> been fixed. TF> Not so at Ritlabs. ALPHA versions (i.e. versions that have not been TF> thoroughly tested in-house) are released to external BETA testers. TF> Personally, I am not confident that filters for POP accounts work as TF> reliably in v5 as they do in v4, but it isn't even adressed in BETA TF> testing any more. I wouldn't dare trying a release version. TF> Background: Some people advised on the BETA list that there are TF> intermittent problems with filters. Nobody at Ritlabs cared. I have TF> over 100 filters with several conditions each, sorting into well over TF> 100 folders across several accounts, so this is a core issue for me. TF> The very reason I bought TheBat! back in 1999 and kept contributing to TF> the BETA list and kept upgrading was the superior filtering system. TF> But if that is not a priority for Ritlabs any more, I wouldn't know TF> why I should upgrade beyond the perfectly-working v4. The filters work TF> great in v4 (the best POP client in the world) but are not 100% TF> reliable in v5. TF> I cannot afford to try v5 until it is confirmed that the filters for TF> POP accounts are 100% reliable, as they are in v4. Good luck. I installed version 5 yesterday relying on people's positive comments. I have only 5 sets of filters for one account, but all is working just fine. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v5.0.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ..."Ambivalent? Well, yes and no." Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move TheBat! to an other HD
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, October 27, 2011, 6:51:58 AM, you wrote: MS> Hi MS> How is the best way to move a TheBat! installation (OTFE with MS> password) to a new hard disk with all messages, filters, options? Old MS> hard disk is still readable. Tools - Backup to create the backup file. Do a fresh install on the new disk and then Tools - Restore from the backup file. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 …Why is it that doctors call what they do 'practice'? Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move to a new computer
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, June 16, 2011, 1:41:02 AM, you wrote: J>>> I need to move TB from my old computer with XP to my new one with J>>> Windows 7. TF>> Those were versions in the past when we recommended to copy TF>> directories and registry. V4 does not have the restore problem any TF>> more, and I would recommend to use the internal back-up function, TF>> install the program on the new computer, and restore from the back-up TF>> file. J> Thanks, I appreciate the help. But I've been thinking about it and I J> think I'm going to try Thunderbird. I have never been happy with the J> official support of TB and this looks like a good opportunity to make J> the change. Good luck. If you would miss the templates, have a look at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/smarttemplate/ -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...Second childhood? I haven't finished the first one. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Critical Error?
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Saturday, June 11, 2011, 6:08:12 PM, you wrote: MM>***^\ ."_)~~ MM> ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Fri, 10 Jun 2011, MM>@ @ at 13:59:07 -0700, when Melissa Reese wrote: >> Also, very unfortunately, I'm much more reluctant to recommend TB! to >> new users (just not reliable enough anymore). There was a time when I >> sent all sorts of new customers to Ritlabs. That's just not the case >> anymore. MM> Years of enthusiasm are past now. They should set v2.12 at disposal for MM> download somewhere on TB! website, so the people have a chance to decide MM> what they want. MM> Happy user of v2.12, The Bat has so many handy features and I have got so used to it that I hope the Ver 5 bugs get solved. Meanwhile am happy to stay with 4.2.36.4. I particularly value the email filtering system. If anybody wants this version, I could put it up on the web for them. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...Experience: a name everyone gives to hes mistakes. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to copy a template
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 8:17:34 AM, you wrote: D> Hallo D> I am still playing and struggling with The Bat. D> I have successfully made up a template but now I want modify it D> whilst keeping the original. I have D> searched through but cannot find anyway of doing it. D> Any help appreciated. D> Regards, D> David D> D> Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: D> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Suggest a simple way: Click inside the template contents Control-A to select all the content Control-C to Copy Then open any editor or word processor (Notepad, Wordpad, Word or other) and Control-V to paste the content in it. Save this file for when you need to copy it back into the template. Good luck. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...I'm at the corner of Walk and Don't Walk. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: G-Mail Odd Download Behavior
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, March 10, 2011, 12:26:37 AM, you wrote: TF> Hello Munango-Keewati, TF> On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:04:42 -0600 GMT (09/Mar/11, 10:04 AM +0700 GMT), TF> Munango-Keewati wrote: MK>> My Gmail account is used to subscribe to multiple mailing lists, such MK>> as this one. I've recently started noticing that downloads are MK>> incomplete. This evening I downloaded five or six times, one after MK>> the other, with each download ranging from approximately 13 to 38 MK>> messages. Perhaps it's functioned this way all along and I just MK>> didn't notice (though I doubt that). MK>> Has anyone else noticed this behavior? Anyone have any suggestions MK>> for a way to fix it? TF> I have noticed that when the connection is slow *and* the attachment TF> is large (over 10 MB in my case). MK>> I hope this won't be considered off-topic; I'm sure many TB users are MK>> also using Gmail. TF> No, it has nothing to do with Gmail. In fact, I don't use Gmail for TF> certain reasons. It has to do with TB! timing out. TF> I usually blame the connection rather than TheBat!. That's because I TF> haven't used another POP client in over 10 years, and at the time, TF> attachment weren't that large. This is not directly related to this problem, but might be a way of limiting download batches: The Bat. To stop big emails.13 December 2010 Account – Properties- Mail Management-Message Management- Tick Receive Header Only if message size is greater than -have set this at 1,000 Kbytes – 1 MB You receive header (sender, subject, time, size etc.) Then in The Bat Control-Shift-F2 opens Message Dispatcher for list of mail in webmail, so you can choose to Read, Receive, Delete, Open: If not wanted, just Delete and Click on Download Arrow Icon If wanted, Receive and Delete and Click on Download Arrow Icon Or instead, you can use your internet provider's Webmail -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...In an office: AFTER TEA BREAK STAFF SHOULD EMPTY THE TEAPOT AND STAND UPSIDE DOWN ON THE DRAINING BOARD Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Broken Image Rendering
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 2:22:36 AM, you wrote: SB> I am using TB! 4.2.42 and have noticed in this version (but I'm SB> not sure if only this version) that the rendering of some images SB> seems to be broken. I took the following screenshot to demonstrate: SB> http://www.morepeggers.com/img/TB_image_rendering.jpg SB> Sometimes the image shows, but then scrolling corrupts the image. SB> Sometimes the images never fully resolves and just come in as SB> black boxes and then gets worse when I scroll. Sometimes they come SB> in just fine, but develop the horizontal lines when I scroll (like SB> on the first yellow button or the second "Deal 2 preview" image). SB> I don't really expect there's a fix until another release comes SB> around, but I wanted to at least confirm I'm not the only one to see this. SB> Thanks, SB> -Sam SB> SB> Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: SB> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html The problem is also in the browser (SlimBrowser using Internet Explorer) so the problem seems to be in creating the web page itself. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I am not hungry enough to eat six. - Yogi Berra Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slow start
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Saturday, January 15, 2011, 11:26:34 PM, you wrote: M> Hi M> On Saturday 15 January 2011 at 4:00:23 AM, in M> , Paul Berger wrote: >> Recent updates have made The Bat startup slower. >> It now takes 6 seconds with v4.2.36.4. M> Wow, that's speedy! V4.0.38 starts for me in 10 to 15 seconds on a M> computer that has recently booted up and has little else running. M> Start Firefox and look at something like Facebook for a few minutes M> before starting TB! and that goes up to well over 30 seconds. Thank you MFPA and Bob. That is comforting. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...Experience is what causes a person to make new mistakes instead of old ones Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Slow start
Recent updates have made The Bat startup slower. It now takes 6 seconds with v4.2.36.4. If you are using v5, have you noticed any further slowing? -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...Figures won't lie, but liars will figure. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Tips, Tricks and Secrets
Hello tb...@thebat., Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 2:23:43 AM, you wrote: TF> Hello Paul, TF> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:51:12 +1000 GMT (10/Jan/11, 13:51 PM +0700 GMT), TF> Paul Berger wrote: PB>> This is a helpful list of tips to make easier work of using The Bat! PB>> http://email.about.com/od/thebat/Get_the_Most_Out_of_The_Bat.htm TF> Extraordinary! I have already forwarded the link to my colleagues. TF> By the way, do you this link too? TF> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/tbfaq.html PB>> Think a few of them do not work but that may be because they have not PB>> been updated. TF> The link I posted hasn't been updated since 2007. Ritlabs does not TF> believe in investing this kind of user assistance. There was an TF> attempt at a user-maintained wiki at one time, but I think it has died TF> off. Thanks, Thomas. Yes, have the silverstones link in my favourites too. We are lucky to have the helpers on this list. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...I am a nutritional overachiever. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! Tips, Tricks and Secrets
This is a helpful list of tips to make easier work of using The Bat! http://email.about.com/od/thebat/Get_the_Most_Out_of_The_Bat.htm Have been using The Bat! for at least 10 years but it is only now that I have discovered some of these tips. Think a few of them do not work but that may be because they have not been updated. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...The trouble with bucket seats is that not everybody has the same size bucket. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search Bar
Hello tb...@thebat., Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 2:40:59 PM, you wrote: S> S> Hi, S> Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 4:19:43 PM,timh...@cox.net wrote: >> I was thinking of doing a backup and reinstalling the program. It's >> definitely lost it's formatting or something went haywire. S> That might work! S> I just fixed a file association problem by running a repair install. In Internet Explorer - Tools- Internet Options - Programs - E-Mail you might look at the program shown. Also I like your idea of reinstalling The Bat. Good luck! -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...I don't eat snails, I prefer fast food. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Restore TB?
Hello tb...@thebat., Monday, November 29, 2010, 9:27:50 AM, you wrote: S> Hi, S> I made a silly mistake today, when I deleted the Windows xp partition S> from a dual boot system, to keep just the Windows 7. S> Everything went really well, but I forgot that I had set it up to S> "share" TB between the XP and Win7. S> Now I can't start TB, and copying over the files (I made an image of S> the drive with Macrium Reflect before) doesn't work. S> Reinstalling doesn't either. I only get the option to repair, modify S> or uninstall TB, but all function give me an error message, because S> the files aren't where they used to be. S> And after deleting the Win xp partition, I also expanded another S> partition and now I apparently can't use the Macrium Reflect backup to S> go back. S> All my TB files are there, but how do I point the program in the right S> direction? S> Thanks in advance for any help! S> Until the experts reply, you may have the registration email to install from scratch. Good luck! -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...All I ask for is the opportunity to prove that money can't make me happy. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail box full on some of 15 addressees
Hello tb...@thebat., Thursday, November 11, 2010, 7:29:31 PM, you wrote: MP> Dear Paul, MP> @11-Nov-2010, 12:44 +1000 (11-Nov 2:44 AM here) Paul Berger [PB] in MP> mid:1581115022.2010124...@optusnet.com.au said: PB>> When sending an email to a number of people, you get the message Mail PB>> box full. It turns out that 3 of them had full mailboxes, so none of PB>> the messages were sent. So sent them in smaller batches. MP> That's not what happened. The only mechanism with the power to say MP> that a mailbox is full is that of a single recipient mailbox's MP> server after all messages have been sent. MP> What would have happened is that all messages were sent. Then 3 of MP> the servers sent you back a "mailbox full" bounce. Each bounce MP> notice would be for a single mailbox - unless some of the mailboxes MP> were on the same server - some servers can combine multiple Non MP> Delivery Reports. If all recipients addresses were in the To field MP> then the NDRs you get back would requote your original To address, MP> which could have given you the impression that none of the MP> recipients got their message. MP> So, when you resent the message, 12 of your recipients would have MP> got the message twice. MP> Another way to handle it could be to use the Mass Mailing feature of MP> TB to send individual messages to multiple recipients. Many thanks for the full explanation. Will look into the mass mailing feature. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...If a train station is where the train stops, what's a work station? Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mail box full on some of 15 addressees
When sending an email to a number of people, you get the message Mail box full. It turns out that 3 of them had full mailboxes, so none of the messages were sent. So sent them in smaller batches. Does anyone know of an easier way to handle such mailings? -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY? Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message - Comodo
Hello tb...@thebat., Saturday, September 25, 2010, 2:41:54 PM, you wrote: ... JSL> Interesting. Is Vipre also a firewall? I've never heard of it. I JSL> used to run ZoneAlarm for a firewall and free AVG for an anti-virus JSL> but since I built this computer I was never able to get ZoneAlarm to JSL> work properly. In looking around for a replacement for ZoneAlarm I JSL> stumbled across Comodo. Since it has an anti-virus built-in, I never JSL> installed free AVG. I don't really like Comodo, it's too intrusive JSL> although that probably could be tempered if I took the time to learn JSL> how to configure it properly. I use Comodo as a firewall only. It is intrusive, always asking you permission for any software to access the internet. But fortunately it remembers and learns, so it gets easier as you go on. Good luck! -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...When it rains, why don't sheep shrink? Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transferring The Bat to new computer on 2 computer network
Hello tb...@thebat., Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 4:45:31 PM, you wrote: A> Hello Hajdú, A> Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 1:04:03 AM, you wrote in response to my A> question, "What is the best way to set up The Bat on a new computer A> when that computer is attached to a home network that has 2 computers A> running The Bat?" the following: HZ>> Backup on the old laptop with all the account settings, install a copy HZ>> of TB! on the new one and instead of creating an account, restore. A> Thank you very much. I do have a few more questions that probably A> seem very elementary: A> I am able to create a backup file. I presume that is the .tbk file. Yes A> However, I need more specific guidance about installing a copy of TB A> on the new laptop and the restore. Do I download a copy of TB from the A> Ritlabs website? If not, what file am I copying from the old laptop A> to the new laptop for the installation? Do you recommend using the A> most recent version, or will I avoid headaches by using the version A> that I have without upgrading? If you still have the .msi installation file, you would run that to install. You would then also install the international pack, intpack.msi This seems safer than using a new version from the Ritlabs website, but if you don't have the old install file, you would download the latest. A> Then, will I be prompted to restore during the install process, or do I A> wait until after that process is complete to then restore? A> If I wait until after the install is complete, do I then just go to A> Tools/Restore, check all the boxes and then highlight the .tbk file A> after clicking on "add?" There is no prompting. After installing, you just go to A> Tools/Restore, check all the boxes and then highlight the .tbk file A> after clicking on "add?". -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...There's no time except "right this second" - everything else is a memory or a hope - Merlin Mann, 43folders.com Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antivirus
Hello tb...@thebat., Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 7:06:34 PM, you wrote: GG> Hil, GG> The antispamsniper workst pretty well together with The Bat. It has even HAM and GG> SPAM buttons. GG> Is there something similar for antivirus? F.i. a specific plugin for The Bat? You may find that your antivirus protects you even if it is not specifically linked to the Bat. I use Avast and it seems to give protection for email. If you don't want a separate antivirus, Comodo has a full security suite including antivirus etc. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...Make Headlines -- Use a corduroy pillow. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
Hello tb...@thebat., Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:14:42 PM, you wrote: TH> Hello TBUL, TH> Just curious but how do you all deal with Spam? Do you have a TH> favorite spam filter that you use with TB. I haven't been able to TH> find anything that has worked that well with TB to control Spam. TH> Thanks in advance for your input!!! A lot of great ideas have come in. If you prefer to use the built-in mail filtering in Sorting Office: You put in all the positive filters to move the mail you want to accept to particular folders. Then you put in a last filter to dispose of spam that reaches you but was not addressed specifically to you. Sequence is important Account – Sorting Office/Filters Incoming Mail The Bat Header contains TBUDL Or Header contains tbudl Or Header contains thebat.dutaint.com Action: Move to folder …TheBat SpamHeader contains mpx.com Or Sender contains http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font Size for Mail Folders
Hello tb...@thebat., Friday, March 12, 2010, 11:54:57 PM, you wrote: TH> Hello Tbudl, TH> I just started using TB again and could someone tell me how to TH> change the font size for my mail folders? Thanks. Also, I'm TH> running AntiSpamSniper and it's processing email like molasses. Is TH> anyone else having the same issue? If I remove the plug-in TB TH> processes mail swiftly. I don't remember AntiSpamSniper bogging TH> down TB like this in processing email. I vaguely remember AntiSpamSniper causing non-stop uploads while it was on, so uninstalled it. Suggest you have a look at upload activity in case it is doing this on your pc. Please forget all this - it was Spyware Teminator that was uploading. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.23 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...Dangerous exercise: Jumping to conclusions. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font Size for Mail Folders
Hello tb...@thebat., Friday, March 12, 2010, 11:54:57 PM, you wrote: TH> Hello Tbudl, TH> I just started using TB again and could someone tell me how to TH> change the font size for my mail folders? Thanks. Also, I'm TH> running AntiSpamSniper and it's processing email like molasses. Is TH> anyone else having the same issue? If I remove the plug-in TB TH> processes mail swiftly. I don't remember AntiSpamSniper bogging TH> down TB like this in processing email. I vaguely remember AntiSpamSniper causing non-stop uploads while it was on, so uninstalled it. Suggest you have a look at upload activity in case it is doing this on your pc. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.23 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...Dangerous exercise: Jumping to conclusions. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup
Hello tb...@thebat., Monday, January 25, 2010, 1:29:46 AM, you wrote: JK> Test for On--- JK> On Sunday, January 24, 2010, at 4:49:03 AM, Tom wrote: >> the normal backups are going back to my OS drive ( so the thinking is >> that if the mail directory goes corrupt, I have backup - if the >> OS drive goes bust, my mail directory is not affected. If both go >> bust, at least I have the monthly backup on an external drive. JK> That's good planning, but what protection do you have if your house burns JK> down? A comprehensive backup plan should include off-site copies of the JK> backup data, to provide for such disasters. Of course, should that happen, JK> saving your mail might be the least of your worries! FWIW, I don't have JK> off-site backups either... Off-site backup: If your backup of your data is not too big, then you can store extra copies in your car, a spot near your letter box and on web sites that offer storage (I use Humyo.com). The backup file of The Bat is kept in my documents, so it is included in the backup. The documents are password protected, using an archiving program - I use WinRAR. Also I exclude fat files like photos - these are kept locally rather than on the net as we have slow upload here. Flash drives are handy. CD and DVD can also help. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...I was going to procrastinate, but I put it off Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to stop auto backup
Hello tb...@thebat., Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 6:48:46 PM, you wrote: RP> Hello Paul, RP> Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 7:49:48 AM, among other things, you wrote: PB>> Is there any way to stop auto backup? PB>> Have it unticked in Options - preferences, but it always persists. RP> Try deleting the item in Tools/Scheduler Many thanks, Roger. Have done this and hope it now stops it. It has been a nuisance for years. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.16 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...Worry: The interest paid on trouble before it's due Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
how to stop auto backup
Is there any way to stop auto backup? Have it unticked in Options - preferences, but it always persists. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.16 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...Memory is a thing we forget with. Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installation problem
Hello tb...@thebat., Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 2:56:28 PM, you wrote: JH> My friend bought a new computer running Vista. She had someone come JH> over a couple of days ago and do some data transfer and program JH> installation for her. He installed her previous copy of The Bat!, which JH> was probably a 2.x or 3.x version. He, of course, knew nothing about the JH> program. He forgot to make a backup of TB! on her old computer, JH> however. Today, we hooked up her old computer to back up TB! so we JH> could restore her saved email and settings. Another friend and TB! user JH> came with me and tried at first just to move the files from one computer JH> to the other. It wouldn't let us do that. JH> I had brought a flash drive with TB! 4.2 on it to install on her JH> computer as a trial. When moving the files didn't work, we tried to run JH> the 4.2 installation program. Over and over, we got an error message JH> that it couldn't find Drive G. There is no drive G. The flash drive JH> was on H. The hard drive is C:. When we tried to uninstall The Bat! JH> that her tech guy had installed, we were unable to do so. Something JH> wouldn't let us. It also called the program it wouldn't delete by some JH> name using a non-Roman alphabet. JH> So, how do I get the old files off her computer and get a new version of JH> The Bat! up and running with her old data restored? JH> Help! JH> Thanks, JH> Jeanny House Am NOT an expert, but here are some basic suggestions: On her old PC, identify the Bat version, find the same version install program, do the Bat's internal back up and copy to your flash drive. Also copy the Bat email that gave the registration code - you will need this to install the old Bat on the new PC. Then on the new PC, download Revo Uninstaller from http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html Install this and then use it to uninstall whatever version of the BAT is on the new PC, reboot. Then install that old version of the Bat that was on the old PC. Then Tools-Restore to restore whatever she had on the old PC. If everything works, you can later update to a later version, as the old back up may not be compatible with the new version. Hope this helps -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...When it rains, why don't sheep shrink? Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective download big files
Hello tb...@thebat., Thursday, July 23, 2009, 2:15:11 AM, you wrote: JK> On Wednesday, July 22, 2009, at 2:27:36 AM, Mark Partous wrote: >> I don't know if this works for attachments (haven't tried it): >> Account - Properties - Mail Management - >> Receive Header Only If Message Is Greater Than JK> It does work. I've had mine set to 80K for a long time now. I get a JK> notification message that has a link to the specific mailbox entry, that JK> takes me to the Connection Centre so that I can read it, download it, or JK> delete it. I often receive multi-megabyte attachments and it has really JK> helped me manage them. Here's the first paragraph of the notification JK> message: JK> A message with the size exceeding 80 K bytes limit has arrived to your address - JK> the message number on the server is 1. JK> Please take care of it by yourself JK> If I get multiple attachments in a single pass, I can go direct to the JK> "Check mail on server > All messages" from the menu, and select all of JK> them to be downloaded (or just deleted if they are spam) at once. It makes JK> life much simpler by letting me choose when to deal with lengthy downloads JK> or low disk space. Many thanks, Jim, Frank and Mark. This should solve the problem for me. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...Be true to your teeth and they won't be false to you. Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Selective download big files
Is there any way to selectively download emails with big attachments, say over 2MB? People are infatuated with pretty pictures, especially moving pictures, and they like to send them to all their friends. In the last few weeks 2 friends of mine have had their mailbox full and could no longer use their email. They had to phone their provider to delete all emails so they could resume using their email. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...Can't learn to do it well? Learn to enjoy doing it badly! Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
Hello tb...@thebat., Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:43:13 PM, you wrote: P> Hello Paul, ... P> My personal email does get occasional SPAM, and I keep having to update the P> filters in cPanel. But I've just been reading about the free Comodo AntiSpam P> software, which is a free challenge and response system. This 'looks' P> promising, and may be the solution I've been looking for my personal P> communications. Your method looks pretty good. If you need an excellent service for creating disposable email addresses, I recommend gishpuppy.com -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep. Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: anti-SPAM solutions
Hello tb...@thebat., Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 12:22:48 AM, you wrote: P> Hello TBUDL, P> What do TB! users consider to be the P> 1) the best external SPAM management solution for TB! users? P> 2) the best internal SPAM management solution for TB! users? ... I get nearly all spam, do not use an external filter yet. My ISP offers free spam filtering, so I use this. It stops the download of 60% to 70%. I use internal mail filters along these lines: Not using Selective Download. Sequence of filters is important: Incoming Mail Not using Selective Download. Sequence is important: Incoming Mail The Bat Filters 25 December 2006 Not use Selective Download. Sequence is important Incoming Mail The Bat Header contains TBUDL Or Header contains tbudl Or Header contains thebat.dutaint.com Action: Move to folder …TheBat SpamHeader contains mpx.com Or Sender contains From PBSender contains berg...@optusnet.com.au RamblersHeader contains ramblers Or Recipient contains Action: Move to folder …Ramblers Reply Welcome Address Book contains sender Or Recipient contains spammotel.com Or Header contains mailnull.com Or Header contains my-etrust.com Or Sender contains melbpc.org.au Or Sender contains optusnet.com.au And about 20 other senders Action: Move to folder …Welcome Access Sender contains Access Action: Move to folder …Access SIG Spam Last Filter Recipient does not contain berg...@optusnet.com.au And Recipient does not contain mailnull.com And Recipient does not contain spammotel.com Action: Move to folder …Trash As you can see, the idea is to first pick out the mail that you want to put in separate folders. Had to add a filter for emails "sent by me" and put them in a separate folder to glance at and trash, because spammers are now spoofing my address as sender. Then finally you trash the emails that are not addressed to you - they are addressed to you in an outer layer, which is dicarded before you see them; inside they appear with different addressees. The rubbish is left in the Inbox and in From PB folders. Here you set the sort order by Subject for a quick glance at everything. Will be intereted in the replies you get for other solutions. The spammers are very quick to find a new address. I changed the disposable address on a web site, and got spam a few days later. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...I cna ytpe 300 wrods pre mniuet!!! Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recipients' Addresses Suppression
Hello tb...@thebat., Thursday, June 11, 2009, 4:47:28 PM, you wrote: ... >> Maybe I do not understand your problem clearly, but when I send to >> people without showing their email addresses, I just put them in BCC: >> blind copy instead of in To: CYL> If I have to send e-mail to the same group of people, such as members CYL> of a society of which I am a member, very often, is there a way of NOT CYL> having to insert their addresses each time I send them an e-mail, but CYL> pick up all the addresses from a "distribution list" I only have to CYL> create once? CYL> I have not used BCCs in The Bat!, so I don't know if by doing so, CYL> the recipients' addresses are suppressed. But some other e-mail CYL> clients, the BCCs still show up in the e-mail in the header line BCC. I don't know about other email clients, but assume that the names do not show. As to an easy way to maintain a separate list of groups that you send to, you just create a separate folder for each group, and then simply select the group as a whole when you click on the address book icon at the right hand end of the BCC line. You can put any person's email address into multiple folders as needed. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...An ulcer is what you get mountain climbing over molehills. Current version is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recipients' Addresses Suppression
Hello tb...@thebat., Thursday, June 11, 2009, 3:31:11 PM, you wrote: CYL> Hello CYL> Is there a method in The Bat! which allows one to send the same e-mail CYL> to a group of people, but the e-mail addresses are suppressed in each CYL> of the e-mail received? CYL> I had for many years used Pegasus Mail, and it has what is known as CYL> distribution lists, in which one can enter e-mail addresses either CYL> directly or selected from the address book, but the e-mail sent out CYL> does not have the e-mail addresses of the recipients; it will show an CYL> e-mail address invented by the sender when creating the distribution CYL> list, in an e-mail address format, e.g., recipi...@group.org, which CYL> address, I believe, is linked to the addresses entered into the CYL> distribution list. CYL> I have checked the help files of The Bat! but could not find anything CYL> pertaining to this. Have I overlooked anything? Maybe I do not understand your problem clearly, but when I send to people without showing their email addresses, I just put them in BCC: blind copy instead of in To: -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! Current version is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat 4.2
Hello tb...@thebat., Thursday, June 11, 2009, 8:11:44 AM, you wrote: LB> I use TheBat 4.0 Pro (but I am not using it to create this message -- LB> long story and not relevant to my question). LB> How do I determine whether upgrading to 4.2 is free? I have no record LB> of a registration code for 4.0, and I am normally very careful about LB> keeping a record of registation codes. I can find a serial number in TheBat's Help>>About. I also have a longer serial number that must be LB> for 3.0. LB> The download web site states, "The Bat! version 3 registration keys LB> purchased before November, 20, 2007 are valid for The Bat! 4.0 but not LB> for 4.2, according to the upgrade policy published on November 7, LB> 2007." The 4.0 .msi file on my computer has a date of August 25, 2008, LB> if that helps. LB> Thanks, I use the Home edition with the same rules. I had paid for the Version 3, so had to pay the upgrade when going from 4.0 to 4.1. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...I'm not nearly as think as you confused I am. Current version is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reading confirmation
Hello tb...@thebat., Thursday, May 28, 2009, 7:38:54 AM, you wrote: P> Hello TBUDL, P> How can I prevent SPAM messages from automatically generating reading P> confirmations and immediately queuing them in the outbox? It's beginning to P> irritate me. P> I use a separate SPAM POP3 account under cPanel as the default address for P> all of my domains. All SPAM and unrouted mail gets forwarded to this P> account and periodically I collect it in TB! and check it before deleting P> it. As I hardly get any SPAM at all nowadays, due to the way I have my mail P> set up, it's not a mega burden, but I do sometimes get an influx of about P> 10 SPAM emails in a week, and some of them are automatically generating a P> reading confirmation which is immediately queued in the SPAM account's P> outbox. I then have to empty the outbox, which is getting on my pip! P> Is there a surefire way to prevent TB! from creating these without any P> repetitive intervention? You can set to ignore reading confirmations, either for the whole email account or for individual folders. Right click on the folder and choose Properties - Templates - Confirmation and then click in the circle for Ignore. For the whole account, Account - Properties - Templates - Reading Confirmation - Ignore. Paul - Using The Bat! v4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: automatic line wrapping issues
Hello tb...@thebat., It is Alt-L within the paragraph to reformat. It would be good if this can be set to autoformat. Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 2:22:41 PM, you wrote: A> I'm using microEd and I have the free caret option turned off. A> In email programs I've used, and A> also with the bat, I always have issues with word wrappiing. A> Specifically for the Bat, I notice A> problems when I type a paragraph, but then go back to edit A> something or delete something in the A> middle of the paragraph. What happens is that the line wrapping A> gets all screwed up and if I add A> some words to the middle of the paragraph, that line I added on A> to will now stretch way beyond the A> regular wrapping edge. Similarly, if I delete words, the line A> will shorten but it won't bring along A> the next line with it...in other words, only that one line will A> shorten even if more words from the A> next line can fit above. A> The point is, the wrapping only works when you are typing the A> paragraph from scratch. When you go A> back to edit a paragraph, all the wrapping gets broken and messed A> up. Why can't it dynamically wrap A> everything like any other text editor would do? Is there a setting somewhere? A> I've run into this before and someone suggested that when that A> happens, I reformat the paragraph A> with some shortcut (I forgot what it was, but it was something A> similar to just aligning left). But A> my real question is why can't the program do this automatically? -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get. Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
