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Hello Kevin, On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:19:07 -0400 GMT(4/3/2005, 11:19 AM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Coates wrote: I think these types of discussions help elevate awareness of both the problems and the solutions. Words of wisdom! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat!

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Hi On Tuesday 5 April 2005 at 3:22:20 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim Casten wrote: Hello Anthony, Monday, April 4, 2005, 6:41:58 PM, you wrote: I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option. it a feature in the sp2 version And in the version I have used since 2002. I do not have SP2

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Hi On Wednesday 6 April 2005 at 3:38:26 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], rich gregory wrote: Considering such a system or user trusted don't make it so! If I trust somebody, they are trusted. The trust may, of course, be misplaced. -- Best regards, MFPA

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MFPA writes: If I trust somebody, they are trusted. The trust may, of course, be misplaced. Exactly. By definition, someone must be trusted in every computer system. Whether or not that person is really trustworthy is irrelevant from a security standpoint; what matters in computer security

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Use Avast instead. Works like a charm with The Bat!, Thunderbird and Courier. I use them all on a Win XP system... AJ *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 01.04.2005 at 11:05 Jeff Gaines wrote: Hello Group Apologies if this is way off topic for this group but Norton Anti Virus (AKA as

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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 04:22:20 +0200, Tim Casten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option. it a feature in the sp2 version Its definitely not only in the SP2 version (I activate it on all systems where the people insist to use OE, and only a fraction of that is

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Hello Mica, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:11:18 +0200 GMT (05/04/2005, 00:11 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: The problem is that you usuallly don't know it until being told. In the meantime, you might have shared infected files. MM In the meantime you could learn too. There are many ways. Once

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 04 Apr 2005, @ @ at 16:16:37 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:46:50 +0200, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /// So, it *is* about money,

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Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else, on 05-Apr-2005 at 15:11 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote: In other words, you need just an echo of your attitudes (to feel safe and accepted) You don't know me other than from some characters on your screen that appeared after I tapped a few keys here and there,

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On Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 8:16:14 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Should this be moved to TBOT? No. I don't want to read any more of it there either. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP

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Hola, Dwight, Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 11:57:50 AM, you wrote: DAC On Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 8:16:14 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Should this be moved to TBOT? DAC No. I don't want to read any more of it there either. Enough already, stop this nonsense, somebody close this thread, please --

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rich gregory writes: There is NO SUCH THING as a trusted source, ever. Yes, there is such a thing, depending on one's security policies. For example, most operating systems consider any user with a valid password for a given identifier to be a trusted user of that identifier. -- Anthony

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 5 Apr 2005, @ @ at 17:36:21 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I am self confident enough that I don't need any approval for my attitude and position. Please, stop

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 5 Apr 2005, @ @ at 20:16:14 +0700, when Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Mica, My wai. [...] Are we going in circles yet? I don't know. I see the things circling around me but

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Hallo Thomas, On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:16:14 +0700GMT (5-4-2005, 15:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TF Should this be moved to TBOT? moderator on Yes. I haven't got an appropriate QT to declare a thread a dead horse, but please take this elsewhere. It's not really TB-related anymore. That

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Hi Cuco, On Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 12:25:26 PM you wrote: PATCO lives!! Yesss! :gdr: -- Regards, Maggie There has been opposition to every innovation in the history of man, with the possible exception of the sword.

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Hola, Maggie, Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 3:22:30 PM, you wrote: M Hi Cuco, M On Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 12:25:26 PM you wrote: PATCO lives!! M Yesss! :gdr: Glad there are people that still remember, Maggie, you made my day!!! Cuco, ZSU CERAP. -- Ramon L. Negron (Cuco) PATCO lives!! Air

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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:29:15 +0200, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, it's about money. I could write some 5-6 KB on this topic, This is not about money, this is about the quality of the software, is that SO hard to understand? -- Gruesse / Greetings, Alexander Kunz

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Monday, April 4, 2005, 2:12:15 PM, Paul wrote: PB Have you asked the List about grouping? The list has helped me over PB the years. Oh, yes! I had a gripe quite recently and many tried to help, but to no avail. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa

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Hello Arjan de Groot everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 00:07 you (Arjan de Groot) wrote: You really believe this, do you? I do. I've been using personal computers for almost 20 years now and never needed any protection against virusses, trojans or whatever, whatsoever. There was one

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Hi Alexander, On 4/4/2005 12:54 PM +0200, you wrote: This was such an everyday situation, I dare say it could've happened to everyone... especially since the standard accounts creating during the Win XP installation are administrative accounts, anyway... I got adware/spyware on my machine under

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Hello Anthony, On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:38:33 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 03:38 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: AGA Antivirus products, generally speaking, are inferior substitutes for AGA safe computing practices. They are better than nothing. AGA The only threats that truly justify automated

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Hello Anthony, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 06:02:13 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 11:02 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: [...] AGA Then they will get what they deserve. [...] AGA Shared computers are never a good idea. Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me? -- Cheers, Thomas.

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Hello Alexander, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:54:53 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 17:54 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Yes. Poor Average Joe User. Buys Norton Antivirus in a shop and believes he's safe... ASK I see postings here that blame the average user, I don't think that is ASK fair. Melissa

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Re: Anti Virus S/W, (ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Size:4106 bytes) is marked for DELETION by the filter C5AM-new ...so I would please you to send it again, addressed properly. Also, I would like if you would read again my message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], about mechanisms of external authorities, and big

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Hi On Monday 4 April 2005 at 2:32:44 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: ... confirmation that 100% virus free in the mail. I once had such certifications turned on for testing purposes and forgot to turn them off before sending an email. The message was bounced back with

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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:46:50 +0200, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /// So, it *is* about money, since the value system used to estimate a software, is directly derived, to a significant extent, from what money means/represents to someone, a particular person, or a group of them. This

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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:34:50 +0200, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AGA Then they will get what they deserve. [...] AGA Shared computers are never a good idea. Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me? Nope, its not only you. -- Gruesse / Greetings, Alexander Kunz

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Alexander S. Kunz writes: There was one incident that change my attitude towards this. I'm normally using Opera, but in order to use some pages, as you surely know, one must use Internet Explorer. One of these sites that require IE *and* ActiveX is ebay when you want to sell something and use

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Allie Martin writes: It's ridiculous now and we simply have to run the software rather than sit thinking that we alone can make the difference. It only gets dangerous when you stop thinking. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP

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Thomas Fernandez writes: They are better than nothing. Yes, but safe computing practices are better than A/V products, and they are free and do not interfere with the functioning of the OS. Firewalls have nothing to do with AV software. They have a lot to do with safe computing, though. In

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Thomas Fernandez writes: Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me? Some people think the mere notion of people having computers at home is arrogant and elitist. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 4 Apr 2005, @ @ at 12:54:53 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I see postings here that blame the average user, I don't think that is fair. Melissa Reece mentioned a bit of

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Hello Anthony, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:48:35 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:48 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: They are better than nothing. AGA Yes, but safe computing practices are better than A/V products, and they AGA are free and do not interfere with the functioning of the OS. You

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Hello Mica, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:54:04 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:54 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM If I know that someone is not practising appropriate methods in making MM his/her machine safe, I will not accept an invitation, for instance, MM to chat with him/her, will not share files

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Hello Alexander, On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:17:37 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:17 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me? ASK Nope, its not only you. OK, thanks for the heads-up. -- Cheers, Thomas. Fettflecken werden wie neu, wenn man sie

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Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 16:48 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: Files from a trusted source are clean by definition So, every Netsky virus that sends itself around with a fake sender address would come from a trusted source by that definition. Thats secure

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Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 16:43 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: Don't use the advance picture service Impractical. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) A learned blockhead is a greater blockhead than an ignorant one. --

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Hi Anthony, On 04/04/2005 04:44 PM +0200, you wrote: It only gets dangerous when you stop thinking. From reading your other messages it would seem that your use of your system and why *you* require or need allows you the luxury of being able to simply avoid risky practices. More power to you

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Thomas Fernandez writes: You are not in business or academy. In those fields, attached files with macros are common. I'm in both, and macro-laden files comprise only a tiny minority of attached files. Right. There is no 100% protection, if you need to open those files. Often, you don't need

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Alexander S. Kunz writes: So, every Netsky virus that sends itself around with a fake sender address would come from a trusted source by that definition. Trusted sources are verifiable sources. Digital signatures come in handy here. -- Anthony

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Alexander S. Kunz writes: Impractical. Not for me. I've used eBay without the need for ActiveX. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 3.0.1.33

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Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 17:40 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: Impractical. Not for me. I've used eBay without the need for ActiveX. That conversation ends here, because it start to get redundant. See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Alexander

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Hello Anthony, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:39:51 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 22:39 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: You are not in business or academy. In those fields, attached files with macros are common. AGA I'm in both, and macro-laden files comprise only a tiny minority of AGA attached

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Allie Martin writes: From reading your other messages it would seem that your use of your system and why *you* require or need allows you the luxury of being able to simply avoid risky practices. More power to you that you're able to actually do this. Unfortunately, this isn't practical

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Thomas Fernandez writes: My point is that some oneone who sent me uninfected files one day, may send me an infected file the next. Then that person is not a trusted source. Not for me. Well, if they send me .exe files, I do ask them to send me sensible files. But an Excel atttachment is

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Hi Anthony, On 04/04/2005 05:40 PM +0200, you wrote: Not for me. If this is only about you, then there's nothing to discuss. General advice on security can never be based on individual needs or specialized measures. The best security measures are never generic. They're based on the profile of

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 4 Apr 2005, @ @ at 16:44:00 +0200, when Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: Allie Martin writes: It's ridiculous now and we simply have to run the software rather than sit thinking

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Hi Anthony, On 04/04/2005 05:56 PM +0200, you wrote: I've been good at what I do for a very long time. Nah. You're just able to avoid doing a lot of things others can't. I find it disturbing that you imply that your method will work for others. This implies that what you merely desire and can

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Hello Anthony, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:58:56 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 22:58 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: My point is that some oneone who sent me uninfected files one day, may send me an infected file the next. AGA Then that person is not a trusted source. Not, they aren't. Yet, I

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Allie Martin writes: Nah. You're just able to avoid doing a lot of things others can't. Most can avoid them; they just don't want to. The urge to see a video of Paris Hilton is just too strong. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows

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Hi Anthony, On 04/04/2005 06:14 PM +0200, you wrote: Most can avoid them; they just don't want to. The urge to see a video of Paris Hilton is just too strong. Your funny. :) -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Nothing is impossible for anyone impervious to

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 4 Apr 2005, @ @ at 22:17:47 +0700, when Thomas Fernandez wrote: On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:54:04 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:54 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM If I know that

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 04 Apr 2005, @ @ at 11:01:00 -0500, when Allie Martin wrote to Anthony: Your security model just isn't practical for many if not most users. Security model is only one, and is

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Hi On Monday 4 April 2005 at 4:56:12 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: I switched to TB from Outlook Express because OE wouldn't let me turn off display of HTML mail, Tools | Options | Read tab | Read all messages in plain text in OE 6; dunno about other versions.

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Hi On Monday 4 April 2005 at 3:43:09 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: I have all the ActiveX turned off in MSIE, and nowadays I use Firefox, anyway, in which I've also turned off everything I can, including Flash. Is there a risk to Flash? -- Best regards, MFPA

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Hello MFPA everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 20:26 you (MFPA) wrote: Is there a risk to Flash? ...you're male, so... probably not. SCNR! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Our dreams dream us. -- Anonymous

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MFPA writes: Tools | Options | Read tab | Read all messages in plain text in OE 6; dunno about other versions. I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600

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MFPA writes: Is there a risk to Flash? Flash contains instructions that are executable on the local machine; therefore there's always a risk. There have been some reported virus infections of Flash content. I don't have any legitimate use for Flash so I have no Flash software installed. I

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Hello Anthony, Monday, April 4, 2005, 6:41:58 PM, you wrote: I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option. it a feature in the sp2 version -- Best regards, Timmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33

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Tim Casten writes: it a feature in the sp2 version Oh. Well, it was too little, too late, as I now use TB for my e-mail (despite several annoying bugs). I haven't even installed SP2, since I'm sure it will break applications, and I can't afford to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars

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Kevin Coates writes: Most of us spend a fair amount of money on our hardware and Internet access. Buying a decent AV package should be part of the process. Yes, you can do it for free, but is it worth the risk? If you don't open attachments, have a firewall, and don't run active content on

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Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else, on 03-Apr-2005 at 10:13 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: If you don't open attachments, have a firewall, and don't run active content on your browser, you won't be infected by viruses and the like, with or without antivirus software. Nonsense. --

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Hello Allister Jenks everyone else, on 03-Apr-2005 at 03:29 you (Allister Jenks) wrote: I think there is also considerable risk in placing any weight behind payware being of better quality because you have to pay for it. I never meant to say that. I realise you said the first two factors

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On Sunday, April 3, 2005, 0:57:11, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: My intention was only to state a bold be aware when talking about free-of-cost antivirus programs. since in that context, I found no free software that serves the purpose well enough; and another be aware seeing how easily people

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Alexander S. Kunz writes: Nonsense. It has worked flawlessly for me for many years. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using

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Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else, on 03-Apr-2005 at 11:16 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: Nonsense. It has worked flawlessly for me for many years. That doesn't mean it will work for everyone else. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Until the

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Hello Jeff Gaines everyone else, on 01-Apr-2005 at 12:05 you (Jeff Gaines) wrote: Has anybody any recommendations for an effective A/V product that will work unobtrusively in the background and check my incoming email? Very interesting comparisons can be found on the comparative section of

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Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else, on 03-Apr-2005 at 10:13 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: If you don't open attachments, have a firewall, and don't run active content on your browser, you won't be infected by viruses and the like, with or without antivirus software. Sidenote,

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Alexander S. Kunz writes: That doesn't mean it will work for everyone else. They do have to be diligent, yes. But antivirus software doesn't work for everyone, either, and it can cause lots of problems, as well as inducing a false sense of security. -- Anthony

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sun, 3 Apr 2005, @ @ at 12:28:06 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello Jeff Gaines everyone else, on 01-Apr-2005 at 12:05 you (Jeff Gaines) wrote: Has anybody any

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sun, 3 Apr 2005, @ @ at 11:39:02 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else, on 03-Apr-2005 at 11:16 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote:

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Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else, on 03-Apr-2005 at 14:43 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote: Let's be a bit more...reasonable Whatever you say Mica, it will be right for sure. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Violence breeds more violence, and it is

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alexander, On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:25:53 +0200 (2:25 PM here), Alexander S. Kunz [ASK] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ASK A good virus scanner is only one part of a complete security ASK strategy, and you named a couple of very good additional

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Hello Jernej Simoncic everyone else, on 03-Apr-2005 at 11:05 you (Jernej Simoncic) wrote: My experience: during the two latest worm outbreaks (Bagle.AZ and something else), AVG Free detected the virus several hours before Trend Micro, NAV and Panda have. Here's a chart of reaction times for

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Hi Rich, On Sunday, April 03, 2005, at 9:25:09 AM PST, you wrote: NOW, A QUESTION: Is anyone here running more than one A/V product on their PCs? It has always been a no-no to do this but the threats out there and the coverage any one product may be able to protect against almost seem to

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Melissa Reese writes: The one thing that's getting very little mention here is the concept of careful practices above and beyond any particular choice of AV/AT and other types of protective software. I've mentioned it. Antivirus products, generally speaking, are inferior substitutes for safe

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Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else, on 03-Apr-2005 at 22:38 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: If you don't open attachments, and you configure your browser to disallow active content, and you block all incoming ports that are a potential security risk (you can essentially block _all_

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Alexander S. Kunz writes: You really believe this, do you? Yes. As I've said, it has worked for me for many years. Ever heard of the average Joe User? Yes. So? -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600

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Hi Alexander, On Sunday, April 03, 2005, at 1:47:23 PM PST, you wrote: If you don't open attachments, and you configure your browser to disallow active content, and you block all incoming ports that are a potential security risk (you can essentially block _all_ ports on a PC that is used

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Hi, On Sunday, April 03, 2005, at 2:16:42 PM PST, I wrote: While *never opening any attachments* will indeed keep one relatively safer than if one were to *never* open any attachment, Oops! That didn't turn out as intended. I should have written something like... While *never opening any

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On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:47:23 +0200, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: If you don't open attachments, and you configure your browser to disallow active content, and you block all incoming ports that are a potential security risk (you can essentially block _all_ ports on a PC that is used only as a

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'll chop just tiny bit of this message in this moment, since I am pretty asleep, will have to plunge into my bed, and to dream something nice, by chance, if it turned to be a dreaming night, which sometimes happens, and sometimes not, almost.

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...snip AJ Let me see.the three pieces of software that have most often caused AJ me stife are: ...snip AJ 2. The Bat! (still my grouping does not work.) ...snip Have you asked the List about grouping? The list has helped me over the years. -- Paul

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Melissa Reese writes: ...I have mixed feelings if a small caveat is not appended. While *never opening any attachments* will indeed keep one relatively safer than if one were to *never* open any attachment, if the admonition to not open *any* attachment is taken too literally, the usefulness

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rich gregory writes: Some of the users I support tend to not want, care or be able to understand anything remotely like best practices. They include several stages of youth and the elderly. Some are quite arrogant and purposefully flaunt bad habits without regard to the dangers. Then they

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 2 Apr 2005, @ @ at 14:16:43 +1200, when Allister Jenks wrote: Friday, April 1, 2005, 10:05:22 PM, Jeff wrote: JG Has anybody any recommendations for an effective A/V product

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Hello Group On Saturday, April 2, 2005, 6:53:46 AM, Rich wrote: You can try out Nod32 for free and see if it suits you... JG Many thanks for all the input :-) JG I have ... installed the trial of NOD32. ... Just need somebody to JG send me Netsky again to see how effective it is. I doubt

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On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 10:44:03 +0100, Jeff Gaines [EMAIL PROTECTED]said: No, five this morning :-( I have installed F-Prot temporarily, I can't get past this 'AMON' lockup, I have reported it to the NOD web site. It's a shame you are encountering issues with NOD32; I have installed on dozens of

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Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else, on 02-Apr-2005 at 10:11 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote: AntiVir Every time someone asks for an AV program recommendation, the answers contain things like it always worked for me or I had zero issues or its fast and resource friendly or even the best thing: its

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 2 Apr 2005, @ @ at 13:21:26 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else, G'day to All. on 02-Apr-2005 at 10:11 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote:

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Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else, on 02-Apr-2005 at 16:34 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote: It's pretty good said I admit, but am confused over your addressing to me, that is to my message, you para-reply to, to say so, since plainly *no* comment you exposed here is relating to what *I* wrote.

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alexander, On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:21:26 +0200 (6:21 AM here), Alexander S. Kunz [ASK] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ASK To make it clear: AntiVir removed 87 malware files, but it did ASK not clean the machine. ASK I want to add my very personal

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Hello Kevin Coates everyone else, on 02-Apr-2005 at 19:31 you (Kevin Coates) wrote: Realistically I don't think I would rely on any AV software to be my sole defence. A good virus scanner is only one part of a complete security strategy, and you named a couple of very good additional

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 2 Apr 2005, @ @ at 18:41:31 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Now, in your very special way you sound as if you're slightly offended by that. Nononononononoono... (-: I am

Re: Anti Virus S/W

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 2 Apr 2005, @ @ at 20:25:53 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: While its true you often get what you pay for, I think a reasonable defence can be built for free. Not all AV

Re: Anti Virus S/W

Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else, on 03-Apr-2005 at 00:19 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote: I see you haven't read my passage about *the* free software I refer to, *yet*, starting with And just a and ending with I do that. I read that, but how could I know about your views after reading your

Re: Anti Virus S/W

MFPA [M] wrote, snipped a bit M Never tried nod32 but since I switched to AVG7 when Pc-Cillin 2000 M stopped working I find my machine is much slower; almost unuseable M when AVG is doing a system scan. No problem here. I barely even know that it's doing a scan except for hearing the HD running

Re: Anti Virus S/W

Hi Ron, On 2/4/2005 7:07 PM -0500, you wrote: No problem here. I barely even know that it's doing a scan except for hearing the HD running and seeing the icon on the taskbar. I find the personal experiences to vary so much that this does factor in one's final choice. Though I agree with

Re: Anti Virus S/W

Sunday, April 3, 2005, 10:57:11 AM, Alexander wrote: ASK This perhaps leads to a meta discussion about the different types and ASK motivations of free software, and it was not my intention to lead the ASK discussion into that direction. Sheesh! All I did was recommend AVG on the basis that it

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