[Therion] Wiki search finds not much

2017-01-25 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
I noticed just now that the search at the top of the Therion wiki page does not return many results. https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php For example, searching for 'history' (without quotes) returns no results, and yet on the wiki start page there is a link "History of Therion" And

Re: [Therion] Translation doubt: what's a "clay-tree" point?

2017-02-21 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Not sure we have a word in NZ either - mud-mites or mud formation would likely be the naturally adopted term? Since using Therion I have from time to time used the word clay-tree for lack of anything better. Bruce -Original Message- From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On

Re: [Therion] Surface or Canyon walls

2017-02-18 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
5:04 PM To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Duncan Collis <duncan.col...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Therion] Surface or Canyon walls On 15/02/2017, Martin Sluka via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> wrote: > >> 14. 2. 2017 v 19:30, Bruce Mutton via

Re: [Therion] Surface or Canyon walls

2017-02-19 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
;martinsl...@mac.com> Subject: Re: [Therion] Surface or Canyon walls Please, don't do it! It is evidently a bug. Invisible wall must not change the behaviour of clipping. In any case. I'll do one test more to see which way is correct. Martin Odesláno z iPhonu 19. 2. 2017 v 0:54, Bruc

Re: [Therion] Aven colour by loop error

2017-02-23 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Therion Sent: Friday, 24 February 2017 9:34 AM To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Martin Sluka <martinsl...@mac.com> Subject: Re: [Therion] Aven colour by loop error On Feb 23, 2017, at 08:06 PM, Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@

Re: [Therion] Aven colour by loop error

2017-02-22 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
lour by loop error 22. 2. 2017 v 9:05, Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> >: Is ‘colour by loop error’ something that could readily be added to the Therion export? Do you really need it? There is „debug on“ option in thconfig, which

Re: [Therion] Scale dependant error when using area fills

2017-02-14 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Tom This sounds familiar. The following forum thread lead to a bug discovery in 5.2.13 in around 2009. https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg02664.html But I assume that is not what is going on in this case. There are some other threads that might hold clues, but I don’t

Re: [Therion] Error visualisation data, drawing pdf

2017-02-26 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
26. 2. 2017 v 6:55, Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> >: Martin clarified that it would find typos like 1.23m, in place of 12.3m, although where there is no sketch and no loop, I cannot work out how Therion would know that. >There is

[Therion] Entrance for cave list

2017-01-09 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Looking at this whole thread to date... I use same version of therion and windows as Andrew, plus Vladimir's beta as well. I have many projects that have multiple entrances defined, as well and main entrances, and in a hierarchical structure. Never any problems encountered over many years,

Re: [Therion] Current Therion for Windows version 13Mar2017

2017-03-28 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
then I get the Windows error below. Bruce From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bruce Mutton via Therion Sent: Sunday, 26 March 2017 8:37 PM To: 'List for Therion users' <therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Bruce Mutton <br...@tomo.co.nz> Subject: [Therion] Cur

Re: [Therion] Xtherion error when importing JPG in Windows

2017-03-26 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Looks like similar prolems came up in 2011 and 2014 https://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=progressive=therion%40speleo.sk Bruce -Original Message- From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Rodrigo Severo via Therion Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 1:25 AM To: List for

[Therion] Current Therion for Windows version 13Mar2017

2017-03-26 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
I just noticed the recent install files built on 13 March 2017, thanks to Rodrigo’s post. Of course I could not wait to try it out, it’s great to see so many new features and bug fixes. Thank you all. I’ve not delved into it much, but a few comments on how it’s working for me (Windows 10)

[Therion] Current Therion for Windows version 13Mar2017

2017-03-29 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
So it seems my Therion v13Mar2017 beta version issues can be summarised as; * Loch right-click untrapped errors * An error to do with ‘symbol-show point cave-station:fixed’ * Survex Loop closure consistently causing untrapped errors * A single th-config where Therion not

[Therion] Loch rotation speed

2017-03-31 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Now this is getting picky I know. Does anyone else find that the Loch rotation speed is about an order of magnitude too fast? Even on my 11 year old Windows XP machine it was way too fast, and it was not possible to make it slow enough to usefully display a complex system, if you were wanting

[Therion] Current Therion for Windows version 30Mar2017

2017-03-31 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
An update. The Therion v30Mar2017 update has resolved most of my Therion v13Mar2017 beta version issues as below; * Loch right-click untrapped errors :FIXED * An error to do with ‘symbol-show point cave-station:fixed’

Re: [Therion] Current Therion for Windows version 13Mar2017

2017-03-31 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
> Implemented in a form: > X.Y.Z (-MM-DD) for releases > X.Y.Z+short_commit_id (-MM-DD) for other commits subsequent to a release Nice, it works. XTherion, Loch and /thversion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk

Re: [Therion] Troubles with the 3D generation

2017-03-17 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Phil This got lost in my spam folder, hence the late response. Looks like Loch is not using the splay shots to all. Which is expected behaviour I think. Loch generally guesses vertical passage dimensions, unless you go to special efforts… Have you looked at the wiki examples page

Re: [Therion] Troubles with the 3D generation

2017-03-20 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
I had put my understandings (about ‘point dimensions’ and ‘point passage-height’) in the wiki https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/drawingchecklist#points under the heading Passage Size, Fills and Speleothems and discussed an anomaly. Any corrections or comments welcome. Bruce

[Therion] th2 empty objects

2017-03-15 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
That grep works pretty well, I have run it over a few of my projects, and am now happy enough to let it automatically replace all the strings found with a null string. (I use version control, so can easily back out of any disasters). However I notice that it will not pick up hyphenated

Re: [Therion] Pocket Topo on windows 10?

2017-04-11 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Hi Xavier PocketTopo runs fine for me on Windows 10 Home. Don't think I had to make any adjustments to either product. Bruce -Original Message- From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Xavier Pennec via Therion Sent: Wednesday, 12 April 2017 7:35 AM To:

[Therion] How to add authors of paper drawings, which is being digitized as therion scrap?

2017-03-31 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Everyone different it seems! Does not matter so long as each drawing team uses the same conventions. For me/the team I work in, we (potentially) have an 'author ' entry for each of ; *.th centreline 'author ' File creation and data entry Data checking (maybe it is done) Subsequent

[Therion] How to add authors of paper drawings, which is being digitized as therion scrap?

2017-03-31 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
k with SQL databases, I may be wrong in my export and/or reading…). Cheers, Xav Le 31 mars 2017 à 14:55, Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> > a écrit : Everyone different it seems! Does not matter so long as each drawing team uses t

Re: [Therion] Loch giving strange artifacts

2017-03-31 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
I'm not seeing any problem with the 2.lox file you supplied, and no problem when compiled with the latest ca1aa8f experimental version of Therion. On windows 10, as perfect a lox file as I’ve ever seen! Maybe it is an Debian 5.3.15 thing? Bruce -Original Message- From: Therion

[Therion] Aven colour by loop error

2017-04-01 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
The new capability of exporting loop closure information to 3d format is helping to identify the bad loops on our surveys. Very nice. However the scalebar at the top right seems to be locked into a range of 0.0 to 12.0 (%) error. This is OK for our really nasty loop closures; the maps look

[Therion] Current Therion for Windows version 30Mar2017

2017-04-01 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
* An error to do with ‘symbol-show point cave-station:fixed’ Alas not entirely fixed, or at least not the same as it was before… symbol-hide group cave-centreline symbol-show point cave-station:fixed Above sequence used to work, but now gives the error;

Re: [Therion] Aven colour by loop error

2017-04-05 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Nice, thank you all for all the hard work that has gone into the new 5.4.0 It works! Sadly many of my projects still have bright red 12 standard deviation loop errors! Perhaps time to lower the survey grade claims made in the .th files! Bruce From: Therion

Re: [Therion] Disconnected centrelines - Extended Elevation Control

2017-04-09 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Martin I think nosurvey will be the best compromise (when I can get the nosurveys to stop crashing the extended elevations). I can set it to approximate and duplicate, so that is shows up yellow and dashed with my metapost customisation. However > nosurvey is nosurvey. True, in the

Re: [Therion] Disconnected centrelines - Extended Elevation Control

2017-04-09 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
> I think nosurvey will be the best compromise (when I can get the nosurveys to stop crashing the extended elevations). I fixed the crash, and got the extended elevation to work, as per the image below. Also figured out that if the nosurvey leg is not in any maps that are selected for export,

Re: [Therion] Combining several lox files?

2017-04-20 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
> the last problem now is, that the surface lox is in a different coordinate > system than the caves (EPSG:31468 vs. lat-long) :/ I hoped loch would > recognize this and recalculate as appropriate, but that was not the case. Is > there some option to convert conveniently? Is it not straight

Re: [Therion] Combining several lox files?

2017-04-13 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
If you open (Ctrl+O) one file, then import (Ctrl+I) the remaining files, that will get them all in Loch at the same time. Only requires that the same coordinate system is used to generate all files. Is that what you are after? I notice drag and drop works fine to open files, but I could not

Re: [Therion] Therion 5.4.1

2017-04-19 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Indeed, it is working now. Thanks From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Martin Budaj via Therion Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2017 6:15 AM To: List for Therion users Cc: Martin Budaj Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion 5.4.1 Hi,

Re: [Therion] Exporting lists - translation not there?

2017-03-11 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
You caught me out Benedict! >Unfortunately that didn't work. >The layout command yields the error: > therion: error -- thconfig [8] -- unknown option -- "-layout-language" > I did try to add a different language to another project, and I could not get > any non-english output of any type,

Re: [Therion] Exporting lists - translation not there?

2017-03-11 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
I am have run a few cursory tests, and all of the list exports seem to have English headings regardless of the language setting I use. I don't think there are translations for list exports (html output anyway). I have a tried and true multilingual project set up and testing it just now, it

[Therion] Revise command: how to remove persons later on

2017-03-06 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Both (all?) approaches discussed have merit, and could be considered 'correct' in varying circumstances. We already have a revise statement and a person-rename statement, so lets figure out if they can be used 'as is' for Benedikts purposes, and if not if there is an acceptable change that

Re: [Therion] Revise command: how to remove persons later on

2017-03-05 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
> I'm not sure that the progranm should be growing features to cater for data revision without actually revising the data. I agree with the sentiment that we should resist 'feature bloat', however Therion already has a 'revise' capability. I do not understand it well, and that has been

[Therion] colour preview-above unresponsive

2017-03-05 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
While we are going through a renaissance of Therion improvements, I'm wondering if anyone is able to look at the colour preview-above functionality? I can make 'colour preview-below' work, but not 'colour preview-above'. colour preview-below 80#0 = black 100 = white. This works

Re: [Therion] Trying to understand relation between select/unselect and export

2017-03-01 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
There are many threads in this forum if you search for ‘unselect’. I have not researched it recently, and my lingering recollection is that it does not work as one might expect. Not sure I have ever managed a successful ‘unselect’. This 2013 post from Andrew Atkinson in response to

Re: [Therion] Disconnected centrelines - Extended Elevation Control

2017-04-08 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
: Saturday, 8 April 2017 7:31 PM To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Martin Sluka <martinsl...@mac.com> Subject: Re: [Therion] Disconnected centrelines - Extended Elevation Control 8. 4. 2017 v 0:51, Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto

Re: [Therion] new Therion 5.4.1

2017-04-18 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Looking forward to 5.4.1 But there is a small problem with the Therion for Windows install executable. It is objecting to a character in the folder name? maybe / forward slash? I checked, 5.4.0 and everything before it installs just fine. 5.4.1 again comes up with above error. On Windows

Re: [Therion] new Therion 5.4.1

2017-04-18 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
is a result of that. What options did you choose during the install? Path, start menu group, all users or just this one? Vladimir On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:36 PM, Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> > wrote: Looking forward to 5.4.1 But

Re: [Therion] warning -- equate used to define new station

2017-08-02 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
verbose and not obvious... survey cave centerline data nosurvey from to Fixed fi...@some.path.at.cave <mailto:fi...@some.path.at.cave> equate Fixed fi...@some.path.at.cave <mailto:fi...@some.path.at.cave> endcenterline endsurvey 02.08.2017 02:53, Bruce Mutton via T

Re: [Therion] warning -- equate used to define new station

2017-08-02 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Survex with its (deprecated) global prefix "\"? 02.08.2017 15:00, Bruce Mutton via Therion пишет: Looks like what you are calling a solution is what I would call a bug. -- WBR, Vasily ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://

Re: [Therion] Bug of symbol for point passage-height in legend?

2017-08-01 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Torsten Sorry, I have not got around to checking this at my end. From memory it does happen for me. Certainly the ’point date’ label has this problem, even without an explicit base-scale. Perhaps it would be appropriate to make sure that ‘base-scale’ effects are cancelled out for legend

Re: [Therion] mud!

2017-08-14 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Hi RobSorry for Laughing. You are right about the definition of and semantics of clay. To be honest it took me years to feel comfortable calling mud clay. And not having mud or silt symbols. Bruce Sent from my Samsung device, hence the typo's___

[Therion] mud!

2017-08-14 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Ha ha, what do you think mud is made of? Clay? And a bit of water, but then most things on earth have a little water, so just stick with clay. Have a look at my interpretation https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/drawingchecklist Search for mud on that page. Bruce From: Therion

Re: [Therion] view several caves in 3D

2017-07-11 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
h add a line between the last cave and the previous cave imported. Do you have that also ? Thanks, Phil > On 10 Jul 2017, at 21:37 PM, Bruce Mutton via Therion < > <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> therion@speleo.sk> wrote: > > Yes you can compile each individua

Re: [Therion] view several caves in 3D

2017-07-10 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Yes you can compile each individually, and for example a terrain model (without the caves) as well. Open the firms one with Loch, then one by one Import the others. Use the menu file.import... I seem to recall you can drag and drop files into Loch as well, but forget if that triggers an 'open'

Re: [Therion] Therion Theory - scrap and map definitions

2017-07-10 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
con. I’ll add to them based on your feedback however. Sooner I get it on the wiki, sooner others can add their insights to it. Bruce From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Footleg via Therion Sent: Saturday, 8 July 2017 1:26 AM To: Bruce Mutton via Therion

[Therion] Person data type with more than two names

2017-07-14 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Some of our cave surveyors have more than two word names, and previously I have had mixed success getting their names reported correctly by Therion. Some worked, some did not. Therion Book says of this data type: person ▷ a person’s first name and surname separated by whitespace

Re: [Therion] Person data type with more than two names

2017-07-14 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
#how_do_i_add_peoples_names_if_they_have_more_than_two_words_names Bruce -Original Message- From: Olly Betts [mailto:o...@survex.com] Sent: Saturday, 15 July 2017 1:24 PM To: Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Bruce Mutton <br...@tomo.co.nz> Subject: Re: [Therion] Person data type with more th

[Therion] scrap flip horizontal - some symbols are wrong

2017-07-18 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
The bottom line is, features that are adjacent to each other before the transformation, should remain so after the transformation. With arrow heads there is no question that this should be so, regardless of whether there are coding gymnastics required, or whether the object or transformation

Re: [Therion] CaveView a 3D web viewer

2017-07-27 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
I suppose you are referring to this https://aardgoose.github.io/CaveView.js/ The video looks promising. Is there an easy way to make it run for those of us who can't make sense of the instructions provided? Bruce From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of

[Therion] geographical reference is not associated with table bug

2017-06-30 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Curious I am having the problem I described about 4 years ago on this forum. https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg04547.html Not absolutely sure it ever went away, I think it did, it must have, but it is back again. I only get cave-list outputs (.html and .kml) if I don't

[Therion] Can we invoke multiple tex-map \maplayouts for each exported map output?

2017-07-02 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Is it possible to use multiple tex-map \maplayout definitions to arrange the predefined standard Therion Header (\legendcontent {.}) and other objects and labels on the page? The code and image below compile without error, and show the sort of thing I am trying to do. It looks like only one

Re: [Therion] Metapost exit code -- 2

2017-07-01 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Saeid Try this https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/faq#what_does_error_--_cp_exit_code_--_2_mean Bruce From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Saeid Bostandoust via Therion Sent: Sunday, 2 July 2017 3:36 AM To: therion@speleo.sk Cc: Saeid Bostandoust

Re: [Therion] Doubled legend

2017-08-16 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
e it's not the easiest way but it works... cheers, Torsten Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> > hat am 16. August 2017 um 11:42 geschrieben: Ah ha! That looks easy. Thanks for sorting that out for me. Now the only question I have is how to do something

Re: [Therion] Link to class material of DisotX + Topoddroid + Therion portuguese course

2017-06-09 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Rodrigo I’m not sure this got added, until now. I have added it to the wiki ‘start’ page . Check if it is OK. Bruce From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Rodrigo Severo via Therion Sent:

[Therion] GMANE working again

2017-06-09 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
I notice the wiki links to old forum posts on GMANE are working again. Anyone know if this is likely to be a permanent change? Or should we use this as an opportunity to convert them all to Mail Archive links, while GMANE is hanging in there? Bruce

[Therion] XtTherion canvas zoom with the mouse wheel bug

2017-06-21 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Hello I have an old paper survey, so am doing some old school map drawing over a scanned background sketch. My first for a few years. I have noticed that XTherion seems to not be able to display the background sketch once you have used the mouse wheel to zoom. The sketch just vanishes, even

Re: [Therion] align is back to front

2017-06-20 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
19. 6. 2017 v 11:13, Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> >: Has anyone noticed that -align seems to be aligning symbols the wrong way? I have not comprehensively checked, but I think labels are OK. But water-flow is aligning op

Re: [Therion] Trouble scrap: metapost exit code 35584

2017-06-22 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Rodrigo Your files compile perfectly to export a 3d model. However when compiling a map to pdf, watch the command line window as Therion runs. There are errors about point user water before my Windows 10 system pulls the plug with an untrapped error. The Therion Log does not show

Re: [Therion] Trouble scrap: metapost exit code 35584

2017-06-25 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Thanks Rodrigo Very helpful to know this. > the problem is with the user defined point u:water-drip. Apparently Therion > doesn't accept a dash on a user subtype identifier. I bet it's a consequence > of the symbol name restriction stated at Therion Book's page 71. Maybe this > restriction

[Therion] Therion 5.4.1 Windows crash if survex loop-closure

2017-05-28 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
I've just started catching up on a drawing project since 5.4.1 has been released. A while back I reported problems with beta versions of Therion related to 'loop-closure survex'. They were fixed in 5.4.0 Now using 5.4.1 those projects/thconfigs that crashed before now seem to be OK, but I

[Therion] can survey id be called recursively

2017-05-29 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Ok, Now I feel like a beginner, having to ask this question. I have for years created my .th files like this, more or less. input 1-BottomUpPlan.th2 map 1-BottomUpPlanCL -title "1-BottomUp plan centreline" -projection plan 1 # this works fine endmap map

Re: [Therion] Render Plan by bounding box?

2017-06-01 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
I don't think so Beni. Or maybe. Depending on what use you want to put it to, you could achieve what you want by exporting an atlas, rather than exporting a map. You can even get Therion to supress pages you don't want, therefore producing a single page clipped to extents of your choosing.

Re: [Therion] wiki images do not render

2017-06-13 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
you checked from other computers or locations? Vladimir On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> > wrote: For some months now, some of the images in the Therion wiki do not render. At least that is my experience.

[Therion] station-names for map definitions

2017-06-18 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Good evening station-names is a nice little statement that I use all the time for scraps, and occasionally for centrelines. Checking in the Therion Book just now, it seems that that is all station-names works for, which I guess is kind of logical, as those are the only entities that contain

Re: [Therion] station-names for map definitions

2017-06-19 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
2017 6:35 PM To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Martin Sluka <martinsl...@mac.com> Subject: Re: [Therion] station-names for map definitions Isn’t it feature? Not: @CaveName but: @SurveyName m.s. 19. 6. 2017 v 7:30, Bruce Mutton via Therion <th

[Therion] wiki images do not render

2017-06-11 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
For some months now, some of the images in the Therion wiki do not render. At least that is my experience. I typically use Chrome, but checked just now with IE11 and with MS Edge. All have pretty much the same behaviour. It is as though the web page can only display so many images, and once

[Therion] Are you a NZ Caver?

2017-06-11 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Are you a New Zealand Caver? Or an overseas caver spending some time in New Zealand? If so let me know at brucetomo.co.nz I'm interested to see how many NZ Cavers are following this forum. Bruce ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk

[Therion] Area "filled"

2017-09-14 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
To expand on Martin’s example, there is perhaps a little more to it. Refer to pg 106 of Therion Book Such an area could be defined in your scrap drawing by a line border subtype invisible. The area will be called u:filled And definition of colour is identical as definition of blue

[Therion] Doubled legend

2017-09-16 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Martin S Perhaps you can share the code for the modified legend with separate North, scalebar and logo on this map? http://schv.sk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/1_o3_dlayout_en.pdf Bruce From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bruce Mutton via Therion Sent

[Therion] No scrap stations causes warning and aborts deleting log contents

2017-09-16 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
This warning occasionally occurs and aborts Therion compilation, despite it only being a warning. In addition the therion log file also only contains the warning. All other information is removed and no other output is produced. "C:\Program Files (x86)\Therion\therion.exe: warning -- error

[Therion] No scrap stations causes warning and aborts deleting log contents

2017-09-23 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
) today. The scrap was fine, but I forgot to insert "data normal from to compass clino tape" before all measurements in the centreline part. Torstein Den 17.09.2017 03.12, skrev Bruce Mutton via Therion: This warning occasionally occurs and aborts Therion compilation, despite

Re: [Therion] Area "filled"

2017-09-13 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Markus is looking for the code for this particular user defined symbol I think. From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via Therion Sent: Thursday, 14 September 2017 7:22 AM To: List for Therion users Cc: Martin Sluka

Re: [Therion] Therion color by scrap or map

2017-09-13 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
At the time Stacho removed it I wondered. I can see it both ways. However I think Stacho is right. For almost everything to do with the appearance of 2d outputs, I put statements in one or more layouts. Therion philosophy. Define once, use many times? Personally I dislike defining many

[Therion] Doubled legend

2017-09-18 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Sluka <martinsl...@mac.com> Subject: Re: [Therion] Doubled legend Hi, attached are all layouts and thconfig used in map of Juraj Szunyog. m.s. On Sep 16, 2017, at 10:06 PM, Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> > wrote: Martin S Perhap

Re: [Therion] How to do better join from scraps in different .th2 files?

2017-10-03 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Evaristo It is a trial and error process. I always try to get the scraps very close to joining before I activate a join statement. I do this by opening the exported pdf, and both th2 files, then iteratively editing and compiling until they are close to perfect. Like Martin has suggested.

Re: [Therion] How to do better join from scraps in different .th2

2017-10-05 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
> Is it necessary to comment splay shots? > I think so. Otherwise all lengths are added to the centerline. Or I am wrong? Splay shots are NOT ever added to the survey length. They are for passage shape and internal features only. I think if a splay happens to be higher than the highest

[Therion] Therion 5.4.1 Windows Installer incomplete installs

2017-10-16 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
ivileges could choose a location they have write permissions for. Otherwise users can choose to just click through 'Next' on each page to accept the default install under Program Files. Footleg On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 9:28 AM Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@s

Re: [Therion] Multiple fixes for the same point

2017-09-08 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
From Andrews post >Now one of the answers which I might start to do is always be explicit in the >variance, however, is it really reasonable for survex and therefore therion to >assume a fix is perfect, we know that they are not. That is the right approach I think Andrew. I have always

Re: [Therion] Multiple fixes for the same point

2017-09-11 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Benedikt wrote >The option to use "alias names" for fixes instead of directly numbers would be >good, this would allow to ship standards with therion and allow the user to to >define custom ones, just like in grade definitions. Not sure I understand correctly what you mean. We can make alias

Re: [Therion] Multiple fixes for the same point

2017-09-09 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
] On Behalf Of Andrew Atkinson via Therion On 08/09/17 20:47, Bruce Mutton via Therion wrote: > As above, I think Therion already provides users with straight forward > control. Aside from a few quirks and maybe bugs of course. Yep I'm sure this is a quirk, maybe even a bug. The d

Re: [Therion] Multiple fixes for the same point

2017-09-07 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Andrew I have been doing this for years, and pretty sure it is working fine, no errors or warnings flagged by Therion at least. Although I have not checked that the weighted averaging of the positions appears to be working correctly for about 5 years now, so there is a possibility it has got

[Therion] Tex and language ?

2017-09-29 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
I have also handled French/English maps by writing duplicate tex-map blocks of code, then toggling with two small changes. # language en_UK # copy LayoutExperimentalHeaderPlan language fr copy LayoutExperimentalHeaderPlan-fr I imagine that what you are doing is similar. The user

[Therion] min-symbol-scale and fonts-setup

2017-08-26 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
At long last I thought I'd try out the new font-setup layout syntax and min-symbol-scale. There has been no feedback since it was released so I assumed all must be working perfectly. I have found some issues though. The min-symbol-scale does not seem to hide wall point altitudes. A bug I

Re: [Therion] How to move a line in xtherion

2017-12-03 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Very cool. If I might expand on the instructions, as I almost did not figure out the easy way. 1. Create or select a point (or line point) that defines the start of the movement vector. Click ‘shift from’. 2. Create or select a point that defines the end (destination) of the

Re: [Therion] Development 5.4.1+4369eea inverts and recolours altitude legend

2017-12-14 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
ommit, but I was not able to reproduce your strange coloring of scraps. For me it seems to work fine. Could you please send me some data sample for inspection of this bug? Thanks, S. On 9 December 2017 at 04:52, Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk>

[Therion] Increase size of legend

2017-11-10 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
ld be scaled for viewing in a PDF, particularly when zoomed in. Is that a common practice? -- Bill Gee On Friday, November 10, 2017 1:18:45 AM CST Bruce Mutton via Therion wrote: > Hi Bill > If I were in your situation (as I think I have been from time to time), then > I would opt for targ

Re: [Therion] Increase size of legend

2017-11-14 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Bill >I have managed to get what I want, though I do not completely understand why it works. :) sometimes my experience as well. >I tried various "base-scale" settings but could not see any visible change. It was effectively a null setting. Even when base-scale value is 2x or

[Therion] Development 5.4.1+4369eea inverts and recolours altitude legend

2017-11-02 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
I've just noticed that the latest development snapshot 5.4.1+4369eea seems to have messed with the altitude legend. You can see from the screenshot below, which shows part of identical project compilations, one with 9d96803 and then one with 4369eea. Pretty sure I have not made any other changes

Re: [Therion] Increase size of legend

2017-11-09 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Hi Bill Sounds like you need to print on a larger piece of paper. 1m x 0.6m is quite modest. I presume you are not printing your pdf file out at the full size that Therion generated it at. I have not had any legend size issues with a 30km cave, although I must admit that I do with very small

[Therion] Development 5.4.1+4369eea inverts and recolours altitude legend

2017-11-09 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
>I have rewritten the scale code completely, … >It should generate red -> blue scale with desired values. Also explo-date, >topo-date should now work with addition to maps, scraps. I’m very excited about this Stacho. Opens up exciting possibilities. Looking forward to try it out,

[Therion] Increase size of legend

2017-11-09 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
using 1:200 for this map. Scales of 1:500 and higher make the fills on the map too sparse. A clay area might have one clay symbol in it. Scales below 1:200 make the fills too dense. -- Bill Gee On Thursday, November 9, 2017 1:02:00 PM CST Bruce Mutton via Therion wrote: > Hi Bill >

[Therion] Development 5.4.1+4369eea inverts and recolours altitude

2017-11-08 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
I'll just post the image again. We are dealing with absolute altitudes, height above sea level, here, as per the established Therion implementation. (I don’t think we can do depth of cave numbering down from the highest point. Or have I just forgotten?) On the left is the new development

[Therion] Development 5.4.1+4369eea inverts and recolours altitude legend

2017-12-08 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
s should work: lookup altitude [1500 1600] [] "cave floor 1" [1800 1900] [] "cave floor 2" endlookup If you are willing to try, I would appreciate any feedback. Probably there are a lot of bugs because a lot of use-cases. I was not able to test them all. S. On 2

[Therion] Map Definitions discussion

2018-05-08 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Here is a conversation that Nick and I had recently, about using map definitions. Bruce From: Nick Bairstow Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2018 12:03 AM To: Bruce Mutton Subject: RE: Map Definitions Bruce, thanks for that explanation, I now think I understand things a little better. You

[Therion] Therion Map Header Overrides

2018-05-09 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Nick > The override below is to change the Therion default team, cave length, cave depth data on the map output. Used in this case because a short surface survey needed to be shown on the map but the data was skewing the actual cave length and depth. I'm not sure that is a very good way to

[Therion] Rename legend symbol "water-flow"

2018-05-08 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
Yes, for example here is what I have sometimes redefined (in English) text en "point water-flow:paleo" "paleo water flow (scallops)" Bruce Evaristo Quiroga via Therion

Re: [Therion] Therion Map Header Overrides

2018-05-09 Thread Bruce Mutton via Therion
d wiki for information but for clarification could you post an example of surface flag use please. Thanks. Nick From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bruce Mutton via Therion Sent: 09 May 2018 11:04 To: 'List for Therion users' <therion@speleo

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