> The first thing I noticed is, all of the
> indicators on the top panel are missing (no clock, network, sound icons
> etc). The application search returns no results, despite applications being
> installed.
I just installed Unity and have the same experience. I have submitted a bug
report.
> I installed Fildas last night and after installing Unity the
> environment is very broken, with numerous issues.
Hasn't Unity been discontinued by Canonical in favor of GNOME?
> The scaling is very
> broken in nautilus, which is also the case in the default desktop.
By scaling do you mean
In case the other answers didn't make this clear, this is not a bug in
Trisquel. The problem is that your WiFi card requires proprietary[1] firmware,
so it will not work with any freedom-respecting distro.
[1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html
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There was a long thread here a while back in which someone used tcpdump to test
many browsers for automatic connections. As I recall, all Firefox derivatives
they tested, including Waterfox, made some automatic connections without user
knowledge. At the time, I tested Abrowser and found the
In case anyone is wondering when they can start posting whiny "where is
Trisquel 9" threads, here's a countdown clock.
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20200101T00=136=cursive
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Awesome! Thanks so much to quidam, jxself, gnutastyc, etc. for their hard work.
Trisquel is an extremely important project. I'm thankful to be a part of this
community.
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GNOME Shell does have a very good launcher that can be accessed in the dash,
which makes it possible to navigate the system using only the keyboard, but
this is not unique to GNOME. Even in a desktop environment the doesn't include
a launcher you can install a standalone one like Synapse or
> Absolutely agree 100% Librem is not free hardware.
AFAIK no laptop consists of completely free hardware. Libreboot is a free BIOS.
Having a free BIOS is important but does not make all of the hardware in the
laptop free. However, the OP says they want "as free as possible" at this time,
> To be honest you probably
> only need 4gb of ram unless your a developer/power user.
OP wants to edit TeX files and browse the web. Even 2GB should be plenty.
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If you want to flash libreboot yourself, the X60 will be easiest as libreboot
can be flashed internally. If you have the knowledge, equipment, and desire to
flash libreboot externally, the X200 and T400 are options and have better specs
than the X60.
There are both 32-bit and 64-bit X60's, so
Can you use tab completion to see what is inside /dev/mapper or /dev?
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Then again, I was more or less blindly trying things until something worked and
never actually understood what the problem was, so maybe you should wait for
someone smarter than I to respond before trying anything.
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Something similar happened to me (the initramfs thing) with Trisquel 8 a few
months ago. The solution here[1] fixed the problem for me.
(initramfs) fsck /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root
[1] https://askubuntu.com/questions/781315/ubuntu16-04-boots-into-initramfs
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> Devuan actually booted faster on a 20 year old
> libreboot laptop. for me also. (X200)
The X200 is 10 years old, not 20. The X60 is 12 years old, and it has worked
fine for me both with Upstart on Trisquel 7 and systemd on Trisquel 8. I
haven't tried any other init systems, although I'm
> Yes, that did it. DVD is detected, is bootable and the desktop (X) works. I
> think we can conclude this issue is solved.
Awesome!
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I thought one of my friends had a Mac from 2015 but it's actually from 2012
like the one I already tested, so I still don't have a way to replicate the
problem you two (loldier and strypey) are having.
Have either of you tried the ISO that was uploaded today?
> I can't speak for
> Parabola
I expect the experience with Enlightenment in Parabola to be the same as that
in Arch, which was not very good. At the time Arch/Parabola had E21, so maybe
E22 is better, but I found it to be much more buggy and crashy than E17 in
Trisquel.
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Although
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/
currently displays the FSF home page for some reason, you can still find the
12/24 ISO here:
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/20171223/
I wonder if you'll have more luck with it.
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I did that a lot too until I learned that only the first version of each
comment, without the edits, gets sent to the mailing list. I find using
'preview' and making changes before hitting 'save' helps.
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> I've managed to get Debian, MInt and Trisquel to boot.
Trisquel 8? What did you have to do?
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Maybe try an earlier ISO, perhaps the 12/24 one that worked for GrevenGull?
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> https://www.enlightenment.org/
I used Enlightenment for a while. Its support for dynamic tiling eventually led
me to i3, but unlike i3 Enlightenment isn't scary to beginners. The only
problems I recall were that it seemed buggy and crashy in general (to be fair,
I was using Arch at the time)
Does Bootcamp not work with newer MacBooks and/or have disadvantages?
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> Bootcamp?
She's never done a dual boot or messed around with EFI, so if bootcamp is the
default with High Sierra then yes.
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I just tried the latest ISO on a friend's Mid 2012 MacBook Pro. I held "Option"
while starting up. The USB drive showed up as "Windows", which I selected and
was then able to boot into Trisquel with no problems.
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> Ubuntu installs easily
Then a temporary workaround could be to install 16.04 and migrate to Trisquel 8.
What is the earlist Trisquel 8 ISO you've tested?
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I believe that GrevenGull is using Trisquel 8 on a Mac, though maybe not from
the latest ISO.
I have some friends with Macs, including one who has successfully installed
Ubuntu. I'll see if someone will let me try booting into Trisquel.
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> What if I feel that your comments are spam?
onpon4 makes many posts here that have helped people, including you, so if her
comments seem unreasonable to you I'd ask her to clarify what she means instead
of dismissing them. I think this is just a miscommunication resulting from the
nuance
> I did have trouble
> with installing a downloaded ppd driver. The system freezes up. I
> stopped after three failed attempts.
Did you check to see if the driver is already in the repo? Try installing all
of the printer drivers
$ sudo apt-install printer-driver-all
and see if your printer
> I am interest in translating of course. It seems fun. But I have
> thought that it is difficult for me to translate that since my
> English skill.
How comfortable do you feel with understanding the English documentation
yourself? For example, this page:
Another solution might be to have two versions of each ISO, one with assistive
techonlogies enabled by default and another with them disabled.
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> I think it's great that Trisquel
> supports non-visual users in this way, after all it's much harder for
> them to turn it on, than for the rest of use to turn it off. That
> said, it would also be great if there was a *very* obvious way to
> turn Orca off when beginning installation if it isn't
> so the delay forced to
> basing Trisquel 8 on Ubuntu 16.04.
Not exactly. Trisquel 8 was always going to be based on 16.04. It just took
longer than usual. Trisquel 9 was always going to be based on 18.04, which is
why development of Trisquel 9 can't begin until 18.04 is released later this
> One question though: what about files/directories that is part of the
> playonlinux program but does not contain "playonlinux" in its name?
If there were any then this would be a more complicated task, but looking at
the makefile I don't think there are.
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I think this is a great idea.
> Finally, when using a 100% free code distro like Trisquel (or
> Parabola or any of the others endorsed by the FSF), installing
> software from PPAs, or from the web, or compiling from source, can
> result in proprietary software being introduced into your system."
> But I wonder to seem that
> discussion stopped on the way in spite of not having a valuable and
> reasonable conclusion.
You are somewhat new to the forum, so you may not realize that this discussion
has been had many times already. I think many of us would find it boring to
continue to have
> What's the most appropriate way of reporting these bugs?
https://trisquel.info/en/project/issues
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> Now how do I completely uninstall it after I've built it?
From the makefile, it looks like each file either is named or is in a directory
named something with "playonlinx" or "PlayOnLinux" as a substring, so that's
what we'd need to get rid of.
First lets get rid of our clone of the
I'm not sure I understand. You can write an html file in any text editor and
save it as 'file.html'. Are you looking for something that will generate a
template?
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> $ sudo apt upgrade > upgrade.log
Actually, never mind. If you do this the output won't be printed to the
terminal, so you won't be prompted to confirm that you want to upgrade
packages. Instead use
$ sudo apt upgrade | tee upgrade.log
which will both print the output to the terminal and
> how would we capture the
> terminal output during the upgrade/install?
If I understand your question correctly, you can write the output of a terminal
command to a file with '>'.
$ the-command > the-file.log
or in the case of your question,
$ sudo apt upgrade > upgrade.log
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> Hi, with supreme guidance from mason and other (and some searxing)
> PlayOnLinux was successfully installed by building it. Thank you to
> all the helpful contributions.
Congrats! I can see from your posts that you are learning and getting the hang
of this.
> Aha, so "bin"-folder are what to
> Yeah I tried that method without luck also.
You need to be specific about what went wrong in order for us to help. When
something doesn't work, specify what you expected to happen and what happened
instead.
For now though, try the instructions from my last post, since I know that it
works
> How do I do that?:)
Rather than only telling you how, I'm going to walk you through the problem
solving process by which I figured out how. You'll notice that I don't really
know what I'm doing. I just try things, figure out why they didn't work, fix
the problem, and repeat until everything
> Here I am on PlayOnLinux' website trying to install PlayOnLinux and
> notice that there is noe xenial version, only trusty.
>
> Does this mean that PlayOnLinux is incompatible with Trisquel 8?
It means that the binary they provide was compiled for Ubuntu 14.04, on which
Trisquel 7 is based.
> but how do you install a different desktop manager (Xfce, etc.)?
$ sudo apt install xfce4
Log out. Click the icon next to your username. Select XFCE. Log in.
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Have you unmuted audio since installing Trisquel? Sometimes with Trsiquel the
screen reader will start out enabled upon installing, and one time I was
getting lagging typing after a fresh install and didn't understand why until I
unmuted audio output and realized the screen reader was on and
Will this new wallpaper be the default for the final Flidas release? I much
preferred the previous default. The default MATE theme and icons worked well
over the low-contrast blue background but clash with the new raindrop one.
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Thanks for the exciting news!
Will any more testing ISOs be uploaded leading up to the release? I've run into
the USB boot/install issue with every ISO starting with the one from 12/23.
I'll be happy to keep testing new ISOs and reporting if anything changes.
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> $ cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
/usr/sbin/lightdm
> $ sudo apt install lightdm
already installed
> $ sudo lightdm start
** (lightdm:2637) CRITICAL **: session_get_login1_session_id: assertion
'session!=NULL' failed
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> In Trisquel 7, is it sufficient to just change the word "pluma" with
> "gedit" and then we are good to go?
Yes. Or 'sudo apt install pluma'.
> I tried that and it didn't work. But I may have typed wrong.
Didn't work how? Did you get an error message?
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Neither the kernel nor screen reader should cause wine dependencies to appear
as broken. A possible difference is if you used the new 3/20 ISO, but I'm not
sure why that would matter either. Regardless of the reason, I'm glad
everything's working now.
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Great! Thanks for the information.
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> $ startx
EE) (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log
file.e/trisquel/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log" for additional information(
xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
xinit: server error
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> Architecture: x86_64
You have a 64-bit machine, so using the 64-bit version of Trisquel is not the
problem.
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> Which method now is the legit one?
Oridinarily you would want to use the version in your distro's repo unless you
had a specific reason for needing a newer version. Unforunately, some
dependencies of wine appear to be broken for you, though I am unsure of the
reason. The next thing to try
> It may just be that Wine is (for
> the moment?) not installable on Trisquel 8, which is still alpha.
That's what confuses me. Grevengull's experience is similar to what I've had
when trying to install software that has not been packaged for T8, yet I am
able to install wine on T8. He has run
Their problem sounds like the same problem I've had with the last four Trisquel
ISOs. For me, Ctrl+Alt+F1 does indeed give me a login prompt, from which I can
login withh username "trisquel" and password "".
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Yes, it seems that some people have this issue while for others there is no
problem, so I wonder if it is a hardware thing.
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The lines you needed to remove were these.
deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ flidas main
# deb-src https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ flidas main
The correct line was
deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ xenial main
as for your question about 32/64-bit, you should
Just tried the new 3/20 ISO. The problem still hasn't been fixed. Back to 6/19.
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> output: https://pastebin.com/zaVNK5ey
Copy/paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list again. It looks like the
nonexistent 'ubuntu flidas' repo is still in there.
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Try what Magic suggested here
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/writing-my-%E2%80%98common-distros%E2%80%99-us-2018#comment-129494
and if that doesn't work post a detailed description of what you've tried and
what the problem is for people who weren't following the other thread. If you
share long
> # deb cdrom:[Trisquel 8.0 _flidas_ - Release amd64 (20171223)]/ flidas main
>
> # Trisquel repositories for supported software and updates
> deb http://es.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ flidas main
> deb-src http://es.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ flidas main
> # deb
> ...r wait a second, is that really necessary? Wouldn't all the
> updating solve this?
>
> I don't have to download the latest .iso file, right?
Yeah, don't reinstall just yet. I would indeed expect updating to solve this
(and I'm glad you have the same expectation. :) You're learning).
> Only files with the following extensions are allowed...
>
> Put them in tarballs.
Or for a small file just add .txt to the filename and tell us to remove it
after downloading.
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> When I did the things you say and then did sudo apt update
>
> I got:
From this output it looks like apt is looking for both xenial and flidas
versions of the wine repo. This is progress, as now you have access to the
correct wine repo, but it would be nice to get rid of these warnings. Can
> :/
My bad. We should have gone with the line for Mint 18.x. When we added the
repo, apt assumed that the version is 'flidas' because we are on Trisquel. It
should be 'xenial' which is the name of the corresponding Ubuntu version.
Don't go back and run the line for Mint 18.x, because although
> I was following the recipe on the first link you gave me, and to
> choose between those two was the last step, but allright, this
> method is better?
After
$ wget -nc https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/Release.key
$ sudo apt-key add Release.key
$ sudo apt-add-repository
Just use the one for Ubuntu:
sudo apt-add-repository https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/
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> 2. It says x86_64
Plan B: https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
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> I forgot to mention I am using Trisquel 8, maybe that's the reason.
So am I.
> And if you remember me from earlier threads I am now using a 2008
> iMac, if that has anything to do with it.
Run 'arch' in a terminal. If yours is a different architecture from mine
(x86_64) then it is possible
I was able to install Wine just now with no problems. Maybe wine was packaged
after the most recent time you updated. Run 'sudo apt update' and try again.
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> Do I download the Debian version?
It's in the Trisquel 8 repo.
$ sudo apt install wine
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I just thought of something. Hyperbola (like Parabola) has a process for
migrating from other pacman-based distros without reinstalling. They have pages
for migrating from Arch and Parabola
https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:migration:from_parabola
> Windows 7 is just only for warcraft 3 gaming
Have you considered Wine? You may be able to avoid running an entire
proprietary operating system just to play one proprietary game.
See also: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/libre-game-recommendations-list
> Mac OS is just... well anyway:
I'd be
inb4 this becomes another systemd thread.
> May I ask you why you recommend Hyperbola? :) Especially why you recommend
> it over Parabola? :)
Calmstorm prefers a distro without systemd. If you would like to know why
search the forum, as this issue has been discussed plenty.
Parabola offers
t3g is half right, jxself. Your time and energy is too valuable to waste on
this pointless thread. Thanks for all that you do, and ignore the haters.
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> I'm afraid I haven't come up with a solution to automate this ideal
> behaviour.
No worries. This is the answer I expected. It's an extremely minor
inconvenience that will fix itself in a few weeks. Thanks for all of your work.
The new forum is a great decision.
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> machines more quickly.
> https://notabug.org/isengaara/debian-guix-installer
You rock. I look forward to trying this out.
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> All that said, I would not advise you to add Trisquel's repository to Uruk.
> It is a recipe for disaster.
As of the last time I tried Uruk, it included the Trisquel 8 repository by
default. The Uruk repository appeared to consist of a handful of packages to
compliment those from Trisquel.
I think the op may be referring to the lanuages for which there are
trisquel-users forums/mailing lists. Right now there are only forums for
languages that are European in origin. There should be forums for some Asian
languages as well, certainly one in Chinese.
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If I have a message in my inbox from trisquel-users, that message has since
been moved to freedom-misc, and I respond without changing the cc line from
trisquel-users to freedom-misc, will my response correctly appear in the
freedom-misc forum, or will it start a new thread in trisquel-users?
I get the "failed to install locale" warning all the time. I haven't bothered
learning how to get rid of it because it has never caused any problems.
It looks like the two packages you were trying to install downloaded
successfully. Try running
$ guix package -I dbus
$ guix package -I
> Hmm... then why does tor browser use httpseverywhere? just wondering...
httpsmostofthetime is better than nothing, but if there is a more reliable
alternative then it should probably use that instead.
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Using Tor Browser, which has HTTPS Everywhere installed, I do not get
redirected to https://hedgewars.org either.
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> can't GA still spy on you even
> if javascript is disabled?
I don't think so. GA consists of JS code that the site owner adds to each web
page on which they want to track you. When exectuted it can get information
about you and load additional JS, but without JS enabled in your browser the
I still have this problem when running the 2/20 ISO on my X60 from a USB drive.
No DE or DM, whether I use dd or Startup Disk Creator. I just tried it on an
X230, and could not even boot into it. Will there be a new set of ISOs soon
that might fix the first issue, or should I buy myself some
It seems that Trisquel does not generally remove or replace anything from
Ubuntu unless it is proprietary or facilitates installing proprietary software.
Since systemd is free software, it will probably be present in Trisquel as long
as it is present in Ubuntu, starting with Trisquel 8.
If
> Surely, they (or any reasonable person, for that matter) don't
> think that sugar is beneficial for children
I think that most people know that sugar is not particularly healthy and would
not advise consuming it to excess. However, I think that most of them do not
realize that it is more
> 70 years + life of the author...
That would already be absurd. Unfortunately it is even more complicated than
that. Works published after 1923 are copyrighted in the US regardless of when
the author died. For example, Kafka died in 1924, almost 100 years ago. With
life + 70, all of his works
> The
> irony is striking.
Indeed. Hopefully the developers know more about HCI than dietetics.
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I dread the thought of trying to raise children for this reason. Proprietary
software intended for children is especially predatory, and it must be hard to
protect them from it when it is how they socialize with their friends.
> She mainly uses games (e.g. tocoboco's and lego) and music (i.e.
>
> If that means my latest two posts above, I don't think these are
> not entirely off-topic. Do you really think those are off-topic?
Any observations you have about gender are not related to the Free Software
Foundation, or with Trisquel or even software in general. This is why they are
> And when you got some objections to me, please tell it to ME
> straight, if you don't like back biting.
I'm not sure what you're referring to. Perhaps someone reported or downvoted
one of your posts? (I can't see votes from the mailing list.) However, I don't
mind telling you directly that
sudo apt install printer-driver-all
should install all of the printer drivers in the repo. If your printer still
doesn't work then Trisquel doesn't have the necessary driver, possibly because
no free driver exists.
If you do end up buying a new printer, take a look at h-node
I tested the latest ISO, downloaded this morning, with dd and SDC, but I'll try
growisofs tonight.
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As I reported with the December ISO, and as others have reported with 2/17 ISO,
I have trouble running the newest ISO live. After selecting "Try Trisquel
without installing" I see a splash screen, followed by a black screen with a
cursor. From this screen I can use Ctrl+Alt+F* to get a terminal
Welcome, Jos.
> I installed CDE from the cdedesktopenv git on my xubuntu system to
> test it out. I really like it and would like to have a distro that
> has CDE by default. Trisquel seems to have this.
I do not see cde in the Trisquel 8 repo. You may know that Trisquel is
downstream from
> I would say please give JuffEd a try.
I just installed from the Trisquel 8 repo. Creating or opening a file causes a
seg fault, so I wouldn't call myself an expert in JuffED at this point :) but
it does indeed look similar to Kate, which I used before switching to vim.
> Claws-mail is a
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