Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-23 Thread Judy Taylor
Guilty of what JD? Could you please leave enough of the message so that the rest of us can understand what you are responding to in context. Thank You On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:50:29 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 4/12/2005 1:24:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-23 Thread Kevin Deegan
No he can not; that is part of his devices. Straw men can't dance.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guilty of what JD? Could you please leave enough of the message so that the rest of us can understand what you are responding to in context. Thank You On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:50:29 EDT [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-23 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/23/2005 5:03:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Straw men can't dance. I like. I will add this to my new and profoundly revised, kind and gentler sarcasm commentary. JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-22 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/12/2005 1:24:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy writes: How can you make this claim when the Church are the ecclesia or "called out ones" followers of The Way Even the best are guilty

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-14 Thread David Miller
John wrote: If you agree or believe that God wrote Rev. 7:9 -- well, you are kind of stuck, David. The passage says that no one can number them. No, the passage says no MANcould number them, which is an idiom that simply means that you can't look at the crowd and assign a number to

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
[TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:27:01 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, while we are proof-texting like a drunken sailor, we might consider this: Jews lived and died as the the King of the JEWS. Jesus didn't live and die as the "King of the Jews" that was a title

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2005 4:28:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Many are on the broadway Few are on the narrow way! MANY are called but FEW are chosen! Du 7:7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
AND FEW at that, how about the others? And all the SAVED today are Christians and Few but how about the others?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/13/2005 4:28:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Many are on the broadway Few are on the narrow way!MANY are called but

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2005 4:49:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AND FEW at that, how about the others? And all the SAVED today are Christians and Few but how about the others? Rev 7:9 -- let the scriptural wars begin !!! Kind of silly (?)

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread David Miller
John wrote: In Galatians, Paul makes clear the teaching on holy days -- there are none. David Miller wrote: Can you elaborate on this, John? What specific passage did you have in mind? John wrote: Gal. 2:19; 4: 9-11; Romans 14 (where the weak or wrong brother is the one who honors

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: I believe that the seed was always spiritual in nature, ie Abraham had two sons only Isaac was the son of promise. But Paul says that this concept of two sons was an allegory (Gal. 2:24), meaning that we should not adopt any idea of a literal spiritual seed. Judy wrote: Jesus was

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2005 8:12:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I truly hope that my questions do not cause you to get upset with me. I will answer your questions, but, regarding this comment: I do get angry with you -- no sense of humor in me for David Miller. It 's

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread David Miller
John wrote: Rev 7:9 -- let the scriptural wars begin !!! John, did you ever look up Rev. 7:14 in the Greek and see that this is talking about those coming out of THE TRIBULATION THE GREAT? If we accept this literally, this means that this innumerable multitude

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2005 9:17:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, did you ever look up Rev. 7:14 in the Greek and see that this is talking about those coming out of THE TRIBULATION THE GREAT? If we accept this literally, this means that this innumerable multitude

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread David Miller
John wrote: You is de only one who robs me of my smile. Got to work on that. Yes, we do need to work on that, don't we. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Judy Taylor
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:53:06 -0400 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy wrote: I believe that the seed was always spiritual in nature, ie Abraham had two sons only Isaac was the son of promise.DM: But Paul says that this concept of two sons was an allegory (Gal.2:24),meaning that

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread David Miller
John wrote: Are they without number or not? Not. The passage only says that no man could number them, meaning, that if a man looked at them all, there were so man that a mancould not assign a specific number to them. Surely you would agree that God cannumber them. Peace be with

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: God called Isaac the seed of Promise in Genesis 21:12 so nothing has changed. I don't see the word promise in Gen. 21:12. Even if it did, Paul interprets for us that this understanding is an allegory. Furthermore, consider Romans 4:13-16 and see how the seed has nothing to do

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Lance Muir
Reminds me of that line in "Michael" where Michael says:"I created standing in line." - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 13, 2005 14:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Lo

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Lance Muir
Ira furor brevis est, my brother. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 13, 2005 12:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving In a message dated 4/13/2005 8:12:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2005 1:35:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John wrote: Are they without number or not? Not. The passage only says that no man could number them, meaning, that if a man looked at them all, there were so man that a man could not assign a specific

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Debbie Sawczak
JD wrote: In the Revelation, the "forces of evil" and the "forces of good" are hugh. I feel sorry forHugh. Debbie

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2005 4:05:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JD wrote: In the Revelation, the "forces of evil" and the "forces of good" are hugh. I feel sorry for Hugh. I also read in the Revelation that when Babylon falls, there will be no craftsmen found in

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Judy Taylor
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:06:42 -0400 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Judy wrote:God called Isaac the seed of Promise in Genesis 21:12 so nothing has changed. I don't see the word "promise" in Gen. 21:12. Even if it did, Paul Sorry I paraphrased - Abraham was given the promise and

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2005 8:12:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why is the weak brother the wrong brother in your eyes? Weak because he is wrong, of course. certainly not because of lack of conviction. JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2005 8:12:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, the Galatians passage does not condemn honoring holy days Didn't say this, did I? If so, I meant to only convey the teaching that holy days as a doctrinal teaching of the New Covenant Church is one of

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2005 1:54:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ira furor brevis est, my brother. Yes and :-)

RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie Sawczak Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:04 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving JD wrote: In the Revelation, the forces of evil and the forces of good

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Judy Taylor
JD, I would respond except thatthis is past the point of discussion. You have an "attitude" and you are shouting. jt On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:27:01 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 4/11/2005 1:31:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 11 Apr 2005

RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
You all want virtually no one to go to heaven -- fine. JD JD, you just want scriptures about obedience to be to the Jews only. (Not a good way to get everyone to go to heaven!) Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2005 6:22:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John wrote: In Galatians, Paul makes clear the teaching on holy days -- there are none. Can you elaborate on this, John? What specific passage did you have in mind? Gal. 2:19; 4: 9-11; Romans 14 (where

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2005 6:35:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You might want to look at Rev. 7:14 in the Greek. These are they who came out of THE TRIBULATION THE GREAT. I don't care where they came from (to the great tribulation is happening now --- especially

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/12/2005 3:34:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JD, I would respond except that this is past the point of discussion. You have an "attitude" and you are shouting. jt On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:27:01 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/12/2005 6:19:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You all want virtually no one to go to heaven -- fine. JD JD, you just want scriptures about obedience to be to the Jews only. (Not a good way to get everyone to go to heaven!) Izzy Silliness in

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2005 5:44:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am only reading scripture. Specifically, with what part of the argument (above) do you disagree? I would like to know. Jd All of it. Izzy Another non- answer. Clever. Allows more time form the

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/11/2005 4:20:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you honestly believe that what Jesus taught was only valid for pre resurrection Jews?Did I say this Terry. The answer is NO. Not even close. Try reading apart from you

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/12/2005 10:13:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: = We were not talking who was first, John.. We were discussing the importance of obedience. It is pretty obvious that you will never get it, so

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Judy Taylor
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:27:01 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, while we are proof-texting like a drunken sailor, we might consider this: Jews lived and died as the the King of the JEWS. Jesus didn't live and die as the "King of the Jews" that was a title given by the Romans; in actuality

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: April 12, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:27:01 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, while we are proof-texting like a drunken sailor, we might consider this: Jews lived and died as the the King of the JEWS. Jesus didn't

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/12/2005 11:43:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:27:01 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, while we are proof-texting like a drunken sailor, we might consider this: Jews lived and died as the the King of the JEWS. Jesus didn't

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Judy Taylor
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:27:01 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:So, while we are proof-texting like a drunken sailor, we might consider this: Jews lived and died as the the King of the JEWS. Jesus didn't live and die as the "King of the Jews" that was a title given by the Romans; in actuality He

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Judy Taylor
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 12, 2005 14:41 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:27:01 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, while we are proof-texting like a drunken sailor, we might consider this: Jews live

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Bill Taylor
words, did he have Jewish blood running through his veins? Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Judy Taylor
I believe that the seed was always spiritual in nature, ie Abraham had two sons only Isaac was the son of promise. Jesus was Jewish in the sense that he was born under the Law in the nation of Israel - as for His blood. We are told in Heb 9:13,14 that the blood of bulls and goats sanctified

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-12 Thread Bill Taylor
Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving I believe that the seed was always spiritual in nature, ie Abraham had two sons only Isaac was the son

RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:50 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving How do we reconcile Matt 22:14 many are called; few are chosen with passages

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do we reconcile Matt 22:14 "many are called; few are chosen" with passages like Rev. 7:9 "more than could be counted .. from every nation and tribe?" Do we realize that statements such as Matt 22:14 ARE LIMITED to the Gospel Accounts? When Christ speaks of

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Judy Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do we reconcile Matt 22:14 "many are called; few are chosen" with passages like Rev. 7:9 "more than could be counted .. from every nation and tribe?" We understand that ALL scripture is given by "inspiration of God" and that God does

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2005 1:46:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do we reconcile Matt 22:14 "many are called; few are chosen" with passages like Rev. 7:9 "more than could be counted .. from every nation and tribe?" JD Already asked and answered. So if you dont

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Knpraise
So, while we are proof-texting like a drunken sailor, we might consider this: Jews lived and died as the the King of the . JEWS. His lineage was ..Jewish. He was killed by the . Jews. The church was

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Only undeniable for those that ERR not knowing the scriptures: Act 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the

RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Actually, I was not asking for your non-answer. In fact, I was asking as a set-up for the rest of the posted discussion. I am saying that few refers to the Jews -- making the Rev 7 contrast of uncountable hordes of saved folk a no problem issue. The correct response, Izzy, should have

RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving So, while we are proof-texting like a drunken sailor, we might consider this: Jews lived and died as the the King of the . JEWS. His lineage was ..Jewish. He was killed

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2005-04-11 Thread Terry Clifton
Original Message Subject: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving] Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:51:56 -0500 From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Message

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, while we are proof-texting like a drunken sailor, we might consider this: Jews lived and died as the the King of the . JEWS. His lineage was ..Jewish. He was killed by the

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:41:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only undeniable for those that ERR not knowing the scriptures: Act 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2005 11:21:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, I was not asking for your non-answer. In fact, I was "asking" as a set-up for the rest of the posted discussion. I am saying that "few" refers to the Jews -- making the Rev 7 contrast of

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Knpraise
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:26 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving So, while we are proof-texting like a drunken sailor, we might consider this: Jesus lived and died as the the King of the . JEWS

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2005 12:07:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, while we are proof-texting like a drunken sailor, we might consider this: Jews lived and died as the the King of the . JEWS. His

RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Because Christ physical ministry was to the Jews and not the Gentiles. Couple that with the fact that all such statments are presented to a Jewish audience. JD So then it follows that His promises are in the physical realm only??? Scripture is not just presented to a Jewish audience,

RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
I think that one of these days, I will send you a case of fresh towels !!! :-) Jd I prefer pink. Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2005 12:32:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because Christ physical ministry was to the Jews and not the Gentiles. Couple that with the fact that all such statments are presented to a Jewish audience. JD So then it follows that His promises

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
You should read the scriptures b4 U post[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:41:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only undeniable for those that ERR not knowing the scriptures:Act 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Judy Taylor
What about the prophecies and the rest of scripture JD? "I the Lord have called thee in righteousness and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; to open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison,

RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Possibly some "Restoration" residuals. Maybe Smitson is the true Israel.ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I was not asking for your non-answer. In fact, I was "asking" as a set-up for the rest of the posted discussion. I am saying that "few" refers to the Jews -- making the Rev

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/11/2005 12:07:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, while we are proof-texting like a drunken sailor, we might consider this: Jews lived and died as the the King of

RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
I am only reading scripture. Specifically, with what part of the argument (above) do you disagree? I would like to know. Jd All of it. Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread David Miller
John wrote: In Galatians, Paul makes clear the teaching on holy days -- there are none. Can you elaborate on this, John? What specific passage did you have in mind? John wrote: The eating of meats? No reason to NOT eat except, of course, the conscience of some

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread David Miller
John wrote: Does anyone know of teaching outside the Gospel Accounts that counter the Revelation picture? You might want to look at Rev. 7:14 in the Greek. These are they who came out of THE TRIBULATION THE GREAT. I'm sure you know the significance of definite articles being used this way.

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2005 1:27:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You should read the scriptures b4 U post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/11/2005 9:41:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only undeniable for those that ERR not

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2005 1:51:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I prefer pink. Izzy Noted and saved. JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2005 4:20:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you honestly believe that what Jesus taught was only valid for pre resurrection Jews?Did I say this Terry. The answer is NO. Not even close. Try reading apart from you Rbias. Whether He was speaking to

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/9/2005 2:22:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: YOU are the one always demanding PROOF, etc, etc, etc. You get yourself into these stews by doing that and accusing others of wrongdoing. Read your own posts and you wont need proof of anything. Alzheimers can

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/9/2005 3:44:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will stand or fall upon what I alone accept or reject and that's just the way it is JD - there will be no pastor or self styled theologian standing beside me to hold me up so I determine to hear and obey the

[TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-10 Thread Judy Taylor
This is really rich JD. Here I am advocating love for and obedience tothe Lord (they go together like siamese twins if we love Him we will do what He says) all the timewhich you promptly wrest into"legalism and works" for whatever reason and no matter how many scriptures I post validating

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/9/2005 1:01:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JD in orange On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:54:07 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the TT List you appear (to me at least) to be completely taken with what you call the "larger context" and the "Christ event".

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/10/2005 2:37:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So please tell me how you figure I the one who is stubborn and rebellious?? Yes the Lord is able to strengthen the weak in faith who are fearful of eating certain foods (but who love the truth and want to

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-10 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 06:37:32 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can't afford to allow Romans 14:4 to a principle of truth, so you limit it's usefulness to the meants only question and continue uneffected - and you ask me why I say you are stubborn and rebellious (and

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-10 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 06:23:14 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:JD in orangeOn Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:54:07 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:jt: On the TT List you appear (to me at least) to be completely taken with what you call the "larger context" and the "Christ event". JD: Indeed I am quite taken

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/10/2005 3:51:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 06:37:32 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can't afford to allow Romans 14:4 to a principle of truth, so you limit it's usefulness to the meants only question and continue uneffected

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-10 Thread Knpraise
How do we reconcile Matt 22:14 "many are called; few are chosen" with passages like Rev. 7:9 "more than could be counted .. from every nation and tribe?" Do we realize that statements such as Matt 22:14 ARE LIMITED to the Gospel Accounts? When Christ speaks of "many are called and few are

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-09 Thread Judy Taylor
Just responding to your response JD. The personal turn is on your end - you are the one who began the focus on "your preaching" in response to my comment about your "larger context theology" so where am I supposed to go from there since I never have and probably never will sit under your

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/9/2005 5:29:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just responding to your response JD. The personal turn is on your end - you are the one who began the focus on "your preaching" in response to my comment about your "larger context theology" so where am I

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/9/2005 5:29:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JD: If you actually ever have the privilege of hearing me preach - you will change your mind about the passivitity and presumption thingy. jt: How is what you preach different from the beliefs you have

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving - correction

2005-04-09 Thread Knpraise
The previous similar post was sent while I was trying to get the right "copy." Try it again. JD In a message dated 4/9/2005 7:31:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ACtaully, I found the context -- right there under my nose. While you are pretending that I started the

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving - correction

2005-04-09 Thread Judy Taylor
I see we are back to entertaining the "old accuser" again JD (see your final comment); why would I need to deny this question. It's a valid one. If the foundation for your belief is the Universalism of Kruger, Torrance, along with the existentialism of Barth then how would your preaching

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-09 Thread Judy Taylor
I'm not complaining JD, just pointing out an obvious disconnect in what you profess. Young ppl need to know what Joshua told Israel - We have an obligationto set before them life and death and tell them that they need to "Choose ye this day whom ye will serve" On the TT List you appear

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2005-04-09 Thread Lance Muir
@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 09, 2005 12:19 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving - correction In a message dated 4/9/2005 8:12:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the foundation for your belief is the Universalism of Kruger,Torrance, along

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving - correction

2005-04-09 Thread Judy Taylor
True JD, I have not extensively studied Kruger, Torrance,and/or Barth but I have read enough of their writings to know that I don't need to read anymore. I guess the old adage "birds of a feather" is true if not truth. "My own brand of theology" as you call it is God's Word and this is

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2005-04-09 Thread Judy Taylor
der if I'm a relativist. This is TRUE truth! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 09, 2005 12:19 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving - correction In a message dated 4/9/2005 8:12:15 AM

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2005-04-09 Thread Judy Taylor
Just pondering some ofthese different teachings. JD, you write: Kruger is not into universalism- and you do not understand his teachings, - I know he does not deal with sin. JD much less mine or - You don't either JD, you are into the "greater context" to which image all scripture must

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving - correction

2005-04-09 Thread Lance Muir
- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 09, 2005 12:43 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving - correction True JD, I have not extensively studied Kruger, Torrance,and/or Barth but I have read enough

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2005-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/9/2005 8:23:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the TT List you appear (to me at least) to be completely taken with what you call the "larger context" and the "Christ event". Indeed I am quite taken by these two considerations. The "larger context" is

Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving - correction

2005-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/9/2005 9:27:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To someone with a hammer everything looks like a nail? Well, now you've gone and done !! How do I get this grin off my rather lovely face? Did you think of that before you wrote this?

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2005-04-09 Thread Debbie Sawczak
! Debbie - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving Just pondering some ofthese different teachings. JD

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2005-04-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 8:19 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving In a message dated 4/9/2005 5:29:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL

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2005-04-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/9/2005 11:28:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JD, youre all washed up here. YOU said that what you preach is not the same as what you write on TT. Judy asked why you would be one way on TT and another way when you preach. Then you accuse HER of getting

RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving

2005-04-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Sawczak Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:23 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving Judy, I have to break my silence to compliment you on your cool thumbnail sketches! I mean it. They are delicious and so quotable. I cracked up reading them

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2005-04-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
What ?? Put it in black and white. I said that?? - I don't thnk so -- but here we go again. It is not what John says about what John says -- rather, it is what the righteous right says John says that is the truth. YOU give it a rest --- back to the shower my dear !!! Jd Then stop

RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow Way Not Loving - correction

2005-04-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
And some people are really special, like the little yellow school bus. Izzy On Behalf Of Lance Muir To someone with a hammer everything looks like a nail?

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