Re: [TruthTalk] TT Double Standard

2005-12-15 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: To Perry and Fellow TTers. I respectfully apologize for posting the below on-line. When Perry sent it to me, I (without noticing) assumed it was off-line as was the previous post he sent to me earlier today in which I violated his wishes and posted it publicly. For that earlier

[TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Lance Muir
"I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the CLEAR TEACHING OF GOD'S WORD' (implicit within this: AS I SEE IT/God has granted Me (Judy Taylor) the 'spiritual discernment' to see what such as Calvin Barth could not see) IMO, what is further implicit in

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Lance Muir
HUH?? INDEED!! 'God the Father came down to earth and walked as a man to teach..and die on the cross'? WHO IS THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS STATEMENT? - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 14, 2005 19:32 Subject: Re:

RE: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: I'm getting the message that I should get tougher on these sinners and false lusting prophets:-) - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/14/2005 12:50:19 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes You’ll have to ask the Lord—He

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: You are right on the money sister-hang in there:-) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/14/2005 2:47:22 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes Then it is past time to do some more figuring Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
You are doing with my words what your mentors do with God's Word Lance - which is interjecting your own reasonings. As for Calvin and Barth. Barth had his own issues with God's Word which I prefer to let lie with him - Calvin however is in my face at church and heis something else. Here is

Re: [TruthTalk] TRUE CHRISTIANS SAY NO TO SATAN BEFORE IT MANIFESTS INTO SIN ...

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Lance Lobsmany right over his own head:-) - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/13/2005 7:08:22 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TRUE CHRISTIANS SAY NO TO SATAN BEFORE IT MANIFESTS INTO SIN ... . . . Lance Lobs one right over your

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-15 Thread Lance Muir
Web Dfn:'Fancy':illusion:something many people believe that is false. I ask of those with whom others has disagreed, either mildly or vehemently, does that one believe your theology to have been 'fancy'? I WOULD SAY SO, YES! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 1:03:57 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes I've yet to seeKevin comment on Blaine or DaveH personallyDAVEH: Does calling another TTer a LIAR qualify as an ad-hom attack, Judy? cd:

Re: [TruthTalk] Offence given offence taken - MORMONS??

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 1:04:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Offence given offence taken - MORMONS?? DAVEH: I have a pretty thick skin, Lance. I don't recall anything specifically said by the below mentioned TTers

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Lance Muir
I take your correction to heart, Judy. As to the aforemention persons, let's just say that you've offered a much milder treatmen below than on other occasions. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Let's get this straight Lance - You were trying to tell me in a delicate way that I am deceived - and when I didn't bite you changed it to "fancy theologian" Why not just be up front like Dean and call me a liar? Why the constant games? And what's worse is that you don't ever speak only

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Lance Muir
Is it safe to assume then, Judy, that 'YOU are reading MY Words with the help of the powers of darkness who are the ones who scramble words; interject different meanings, and keep confusion going'? Also, if you read my words in this fashion then, what of the words of John, Bill, 'G' etc.?

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Judy Taylor; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/14/2005 8:28:11 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross mental gymnastics will get you nowhere, Judy. The fact is, THERE

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-15 Thread Lance Muir
JUDY: I DO NOT NOW NOR, HAVE I EVER THOUGHT YOU AN INTENTIONAL LIAR! IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU? WHEN YOU SAY THINGS THAT ARE UNTRUE I BELIEVE YOU TO BE SINCERE, THOUGH WRONG. THAT IS NOT A LIAR. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Probably so, no need to repeat myself; anyone who loves truth by nature hates error. I can accept that these men may have been well meaning and may have even done good things. But why camp around their error? I understand that you will not agree since you don't believe that anyone can know

RE: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/13/2005 8:53:21 PM Subject: RE: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Isn’t it interesting that the mormon viewpoint about the Cross is the same as the JWitnesses? They also think of it as an ugly symbol. iz cd:

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Your words are for the most part personal opinions Lance and Garys are indecipherable so I leave those to others who may be better equipped - some of you seem to get a kick out of them but I'm not interested in Dylan or the speculations of his fans.. Have you said something profound from

Re: [TruthTalk] sweat

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
The scripture says his sweat was as You say he bled from every poreChurch Manual says: "The Savior atoned for our sins by suffering in Gethsemane and by giving his life on the cross. It is impossible for us to fully understand how he suffered for all of our sins. In the Garden of

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Taylor
Dean Moore wrote: cd: Case and point without the cross there could be no savior-hence no salvation and as keeping the law was a failure all were headed to hell-no way to pay for redemption. Yes, our sins added to his suffering-so let us not sin any more as to

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 5:43:32 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross HUH?? INDEED!! 'God the Father came down to earth and walked as a man to teach..and die on the cross'? WHO IS THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS STATEMENT? cd:

FW: RE: [TruthTalk]

2005-12-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
I found the response I sent; here it is again. Have a blessed Christmas, iz From: ShieldsFamily [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 6:30 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [TruthTalk] Thanks for asking, jd. I get very

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
I do not know if you served your country or not ,Dave, but if you did, one of the first items of information recorded about you was your "religeous preference" . It is on file. It may even be noted in some way on your dog tags, I am not sure. It's been a long time. This I do know. You get the

Re: [TruthTalk] LDS Restoration - BAAL Worship/ Kevin projecting evil

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
It was the DC that said Moroni was an Angel of light thus SATAN By the way he was not "posing" he was Transformed like your false apostles are transformed. Remember this "heavenly" messenger came on the occult Autumn Equinox and told joe to observe the same for the next few years.Moroni

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
many Churches have a cross on top. Is that just a coincident? There is a reasonLDS buildings have a Golden Angel on top pointing east just another coincident? Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you hate the cross also?DAVEH: No Kevin..I do not hate the cross. I just find it

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 1:15:57 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross In a message dated 12/13/2005 7:13:22 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Except it is not Biblical. (Not that you would care.) iz

Re: [TruthTalk] Worshipful Master

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
"Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah! Jesus anointed that Prophet and Seer. Blessed to open the last dispensation. Kings shall extol him and nations revere" (LDS hymn #27, Praise to the man). Worshipful Master http://www.josephsmith.net/portal/site

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
Dean Moore wrote: You have got to be joking, Dean! There is no sin of omission? Is following Christ only about correcting others? How about giving a drink to a thirsty man? How about passing by the wounded on the road to Damascus? How about the guy broke down alongside the

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/14/2005 2:22:27 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross EXACTLY what he finds weird.DAVEH: WWJD. Have you ever wondered if Jesus feels like...I will cling to the old rugged

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 7:52:09 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Dean Moore wrote: cd: Case and point without the cross there could be no savior-hence no salvation and as keeping the law was a failure all were

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 8:06:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross "Take up your star daily, and follow me". cd: LOL[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, JW's have their own reasons, I suppose--probably different

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: I have underlined some of my words that you need to reread as you are actually agreeing with what I wrote. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 8:33:44 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Dean Moore wrote: You have got

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine, Try reading through the NT and replace every occurrence of the word cross with star. The text becomes meaningless. The cross is a MAJOR part of the Chrsitian landscape, directly from scripture. It has meaning and value beyond merely an instrument of death, and is the VERY symbol of

[TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/12/2005 9:57:25 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Blaine Autumn equinox Please tell us your view of resting on the Saturday Sabbath. I hesitate to bring up the subject because of such stinking

Fw: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath

2005-12-15 Thread Carroll Moore
-Forwarded Message- From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Dec 15, 2005 10:08 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/12/2005 9:57:25 AM Subject:

Re: FW: RE: [TruthTalk]

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found the response I sent; here it is again. Have a blessed Christmas, iz From: ShieldsFamily [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 6:30 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject:

Re: Fwd: [TruthTalk] LDS Restoration - BAAL Worship/ Kevin projecting evil

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Stop trying to mislead[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 12/14/2005 10:13:46 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, Blainerb473 writes:Blainerb: "RIDLED?" You mean "RIDDLED?" You and your street preacher friends have eyes but are blind to the truth. You see occult stuff all over, I

Re: [TruthTalk] LDS Restoration - BAAL Worship/ Kevin projecting evil

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
You are very stirred up about those symbols on your temple hah? Just keep trying to ignore them they are nothing[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I don't doubt it at all, Iz, you are definitely a class act on TT (Except when you kiss up to Satan--er, I mean, Kevin). :)Blainerb In a message

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
God is against IDOLATRY of any kind Who are these mysterious people who IDOLize the cross?Why did it take all these years for you to be forthright with your FEELINGS about the cross?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All these years on TT and we are just now learning how you really

Re: [TruthTalk] Offence given offence taken - MORMONS??

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Because part of his core beliefs isthat people should not call other people HYPOCRITES!Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:- Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 1:04:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Offence given offence

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's get

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
cd: There is a difference in pointing out error and stoning someone to deathYou take this too lightly. There are some who can not bear any correction. Any correction or reproof to them strikes them at the core, it might as well be a stone! When they heard these things, they were cut to

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Perhaps you should just post what you mean and mean what you post?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it safe to assume then, Judy, that 'YOU are reading MY Words with the help of the powers of darkness who are the ones who scramble words; interject different meanings, and keep

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Take up your star daily, and follow me.Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Take up your star daily, and follow me".[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, JW's have their own reasons, I suppose--probably different from ours. Most JW's despise Mormons, just as they despise all non-JW

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
You have got to be joking, Dean! There is no sin of omission? Is following Christ only about correcting others? How about giving a drink to a thirsty man?AND how do you do such?Ifind that most that speak like this are DOing nothing of consequence. They love in "WORD" but never in DEED! It

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
cd: Then tell me whydoes Jesus wears the marks of the cross on his body? Thomas was told to touch the nail prints in his hands and to trust his hand into the spear mark in his side-Christ wears them so that we will remember to give his glory for our salvation on the cross-that is why the cross is

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
My apology, Dean. I was trying to read everything before going to work and got to reading too fast to understand what I was reading. Terry Dean Moore wrote: cd: I have underlined some of my words that you need to reread as you are actually agreeing with what I wrote.

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
Funny -- I thought this came from a Dean post. So he and JS kinda think alike at this point !!! Interesting. jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'God the Father came down to earth and walked as a man to teach..and die on the cross'? WHO IS

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
And what does yourlittle chuck and jive have to do with Terry's remarks to Dean? Not one single thing. Few on this site have a clue as to "ad hom." but your comments below are "ad hom." By definition, ad hom is any statement that does not go directly to thediscussion or remarks at hand. Another

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
: - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/14/2005 2:22:27 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross EXACTLY what he finds weird.DAVEH: WWJD. Have you ever wondered if Jesus feels like...I will cling to the old rugged

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 1:45:26 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross My apology, Dean. I was trying to read everything before going to work and got to reading too fast to understand what I was reading.Terry cd: I

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Kevin Deegan Sent: 12/15/2005 1:57:37 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Funny -- I thought this came from a Dean post. So he and JS kinda think alike at this point !!! Interesting. jd

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
To tell you these things would be bragging, Kev. What I am doing is known by the One who needs to know. He does it through me. Remember the instructions? Don't let your right hand know what the other is doing. Those who brag about their deeds already have their rewards. You might think about

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
makes sense to me jd -- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Dfn:'Fancy':illusion:something many people believe that is false. I ask of those with whom others has disagreed, either mildly or vehemently, does that one believe your theology to

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
tongue in cheek - for sure. -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Kevin Deegan Sent: 12/15/2005 1:57:37 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 2:19:09 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross : - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/14/2005 2:22:27 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
Not sure why you are talking about the sin of omission.Christ obviously believed that personal sin was a part the (ontological ??) equation. We see it's implicite reference in the words "andif ye being evil know how to do good .." and again " ..he who is without sin .." and again " .. there is

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Dean Moore Sent: 12/15/2005 2:53:49 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Not sure why you are talking about the sin of omission.Christ obviously believed that personal sin was a part the

RE: FW: RE: [TruthTalk]

2005-12-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Sorry if I misread you, jd. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:29 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: FW: RE: [TruthTalk]

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
A rather simple task is to read the post instead of going off half cocked[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:And what does yourlittle chuck and jive have to do with Terry's remarks to Dean? Not one single thing. Few on this site have a clue as to "ad hom." but your comments below are "ad hom." By

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is always Bragging not False Piety? To TESTIFY how you are giving Drink to a thirsty man is BRAGGING? You brought up the subject, I thought you were gonna bless us with some Testimony! Doesn't the bragging part come from ones ATTITUDE? Bragging is not in the essence of the act of compassion

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
The issue is NOT ERROR but wickedness Jesus was dealing with their HEART Condition NOT their ERROR![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Not sure why you are talking about the sin of omission.Christ obviously believed that personal sin was a part the (ontological ??) equation. We see it's implicite

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
You have your reward, Kevin. I am still working on mine. Draw any conclusion from this that suits you. It makes little difference what you think. Kevin Deegan wrote: It is always Bragging not False Piety? To TESTIFY how you are giving Drink to a thirsty man is BRAGGING? You brought up

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
I read your post a couple of times. My comments appear to be appropriate. -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] A rather simple task is to read the post instead of going off half cocked[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what does yourlittle chuck and

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
NAW I am just sick of people that flap their gums. When it comes down to it they are all about words NOT DEEDS!It is a False Piety to saythat another should do such such when one doesNOTHING.God's Work as you put it is NOT LIP SERVICE They profess that they know God; but in works they

Re: [TruthTalk] Dislocated Humility

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/apologetics/truthapol.html Apologetics, Truth, and Humility by Douglas Groothuis Recently when I was discussing philosophy with an earnest undergraduate student, she informed me that she rejected the idea that she could know "the truth" because this would

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
I am really sick of real stupid people who ASSUME to have facts they do not have. I believe the Bible refers to them as gossips. Terry Kevin Deegan wrote: NAW I am just sick of people that flap their gums. When it comes down to it they are all about words NOT DEEDS! It is a False

Re: [TruthTalk] LDS Restoration - BAAL Worship/ Kevin projecting evil

2005-12-15 Thread Blainerb473
URL, please!! Blainerb In a message dated 12/15/2005 8:48:00 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stop trying to mislead[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/14/2005 10:13:46 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, Blainerb473 writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] sweat

2005-12-15 Thread Blainerb473
Blainerb: These are the words of Jesus Christ--as revealed to the prophet Joseph Smith. Thanks, Kevin, I was trying to find them. In a message dated 12/15/2005 8:47:52 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AND SHRINK? DC 19 Therefore I command you to

Re: [TruthTalk] sweat

2005-12-15 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 12/15/2005 8:47:52 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus Christ did not ATONE for our sins by suffering in the Garden Thanks Kevin, we were waiting for the final word from your Royal Highness . . . Now we know the truth because you said it--What

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread ttxpress
your straw man, clearly straw On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:57:31 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But why camp around their error?

[TruthTalk] Jackie Mason

2005-12-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47904 Thursday, December 15, 2005 HOLIDAY BLUES Jackie Mason to defend Christmas Will ride down 5th

Re: [TruthTalk] sweat

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Sure just let me know what you need I'll be there for you.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Blainerb: These are the words of Jesus Christ--as revealed to the prophet Joseph Smith. Thanks, Kevin, I was trying to find them. In a message dated 12/15/2005 8:47:52 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

Re: [TruthTalk] sweat

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Holy Bible is the authority. The bible does not teach any such thingAs a Matter of fact where does the BoM or DC teach such?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/15/2005 8:47:52 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus Christ did not ATONE for our

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Don't get so emotional.Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am really sick of real stupid people who ASSUME to have facts they do not have. I believe the Bible refers to them as gossips.TerryKevin Deegan wrote: NAW I am just sick of people that flap their gums. When it comes down to it

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Maybe you meantalebearer as the word gossip does not appearGossip n One who runs from house to house, tattling and telling news; an idle tattler.TA'LEBEARER, n. [tale and bear.] A person who officiously tells tales; one who impertinently communicates intelligence or anecdotes, and makes

Re: [TruthTalk] The Accuser

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
What on earth are you talking about JD? I understand that Jesus was teaching at the Mt. of Olives and it was early in the morning. There were ppl there listening to him teach -does it matter how many?. The Scribes and Pharisees (the ones Jn the Baptist called a generation of vipers in Matt

Re: [TruthTalk] The Accuser

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
1. Where does it say that man is to be stoned for having sex with a single woman or a prostitute? 2.. How do you know that the man was not stoned? 3. Who are you accusing in the subject line above? jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] What

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
You have turned the "flapping of the gums" into a vocation, Kevin. This is not completely true, however, if you still have that one tooth. I suspect that Terry is a full-time Christian. I met your challenge and what did we get for that -- yet another challenge of someone else. You are a lazy

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
Offi'cious is a new word for me, but I like it. It does the job, maybe even better than gossip. Kevin Deegan wrote: Maybe you meantalebearer as the word gossip does not appear Gossip n One who runs from house to house, tattling and telling news; an idle tattler. TA'LEBEARER, n.

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Well TerryI am not going to stoop to using the words real stupid. Why have you become so emotional?Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Offi'cious is a new word for me, but I like it. It does the job, maybe even better than gossip.Kevin Deegan wrote: Maybe you meantalebearer as the word

Re: [TruthTalk] jd versus JD

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Who are you accusing in the subject line above? jd[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You have turned the "flapping of the gums" into a vocation, Kevin. This is not completely true, however, if you still have that one tooth.I suspect that Terry is a full-time Christian. I met your challenge and what

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
if you still have that one tooth."Discussions" with you always devolve into questions of whether your gut hangs below your belt still. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You have turned the "flapping of the gums" into a vocation, Kevin. This is not completely true, however, if you still have that

Re: [TruthTalk] The Accuser

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:34:14 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Where does it say that man is to be stoned for having sex with a single woman or a prostitute? Who said anything about single or prostitute? The woman was committing adultery which means she was married or else

***Moderator Comment** Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Charles Perry Locke
John and Kevin, stop the name calling. Go private if you wish to continue. From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:05:32 -0800 (PST) if you still have that one tooth.

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..

2005-12-15 Thread ttxpress
myth (noProtestant here'sthat stupid--you are really arrogant, M'am! E.g., like JC himself, acc to their writing, Protestants Calvin Lutherthemselves dismisstheir readersfrom everything contrary tofaith in God's word, in their case,inc their own folly;unlike their historic detractors,

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
Kevin Deegan wrote: Well TerryI am not going to stoop to using the words real stupid. That is good, Kevin. You should only use that word when it is appropriate. Why have you become so emotional? You might be imagining things.again. I was not aware that I had become at all

Re: [TruthTalk] The Accuser

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:34:14 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Where does it say that man is to be stoned for having sex with a single woman or a prostitute? Who said anything about single or prostitute?

Re: [TruthTalk] The Accuser

2005-12-15 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:01:08 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Where does it say that man is to be stoned for having sex with a single woman or a prostitute? Who said anything about single or prostitute? The woman was committing adultery which means she

Re: [TruthTalk] The Accuser

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:01:08 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Where does it say that man is to be stoned for having sex with a single woman or a prostitute? Who said anything about single or

Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
In addition to the following and previously posted comments - I was reading some scripture this evening that has associated value: 1. The fatherhood of God is implicit in old testament scriptures as He relates to the chosen people -- Exodus 4:22 “Then you will say to Pharaoh: This is what the