[twitter-dev] Re: Is it okay to close a connection by opening a new one?
Hi, You can take some hint from here - http://hasin.wordpress.com/2009/06/20/collecting-data-from-streaming-api-in-twitter/ Avinash On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Joel Strellner j...@twitturly.com wrote: Why can’t you do this entirely in your code? Why do you need to close the connection and reconnect? Closing a file, moving it, and then creating a new file should be able to be done extremely fast, thus you shouldn’t need to close your connection to Twitter. Also, if at all possible, JSON is a much better format to use. It’s smaller over the wire, and it’ll create smaller files. -Joel *From:* twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto: twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alex Payne *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:07 PM *To:* twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [twitter-dev] Re: Is it okay to close a connection by opening a new one? If you're only doing this every hour, that's fine by us. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 15:58, owkaye owk...@gmail.com wrote: The Streaming API docs say we should avoid opening new connections with the same user:pass when that user already has a connection open. But I'm hoping it is okay to do this every hour or so, here's why: My plan is to write the streaming XML data to a text file during each connection -- but I don't want this file to get so big that I have trouble processing it on the back end. Therefore I want to rotate these files every hour ... This means I have to stop writing to the file, close it, move it somewhere else, and create a new file so I can use the new file to continue storing new streaming XML data. The obvious way for me to close these files is to close the connection -- by opening a new connection -- because from what I've read it seems that opening a new connection forces the previous connection to close. Can I do this without running into any black listing or denial of service issues? I mean, is this an acceptable way to close a connection ... by opening a new one in order to force the old connection to close? Any info you can provide that will clarify this issue is greatly appreciated, thanks! Owkaye -- Alex Payne - Platform Lead, Twitter, Inc. http://twitter.com/al3x
[twitter-dev] Re: Is it okay to close a connection by opening a new one?
The Streaming API docs say we should avoid opening new connections with the same user:pass when that user already has a connection open. But I'm hoping it is okay to do this every hour or so ... If you're only doing this every hour, that's fine by us. Great, thanks for the confirmation Alex! :)
[twitter-dev] API Limits
Is anyone else getting 20,000 API calls when calling the rate_limit_status API? It doesnt matter who I authenticate with - it always shows 20,000 API calls for the user. Unless Twitter has given everyone 20,000 - I don't think that this is right. Thanks, Greg
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth and pincodes...
Hi There, I'm starting to write my first Twitter application with OAuth support. When I test the authorization process, everything works fine, and I end up at the pincode page hosted by twitter. If we look at that page, the user that arrives here cannot go anywhere then. There is no link to the callback URL and the page doesn't provide any link/button to go back to the calling application. It's like the user is trapped. Is the user supposed to go by himself on the application page then? Is this really user-friendly? Maybe I'm missing something, if so, could you tell me what? Thanks a lot! PS: my code is basically a copy/paste from the Ruby on Rails tutorial: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/OAuth+Example+-+Ruby -- Alexis.
[twitter-dev] TweetPhoto Open API Just Released (Photo Sharing Platform for Twitter)
The TweetPhoto Open API is now available to the Twitter developer community. It is the most expansive photo sharing API available within the Twitter eco-system. You can view the Open API at http://groups.google.com/group/tweetphoto/web Here you can get your API key here http://www.tweetphoto.com/developer.php Please let me know if you have any questions. Best Regards, Sean Callahan
[twitter-dev] Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
Hi,
The problem is: how to find tweets that point to a certain URL. Most
of those tweets would use a shortened version of the URL, and most of
them probably bit.ly. Bit.ly does not provide a way to list all
shortened versions of a URL, and creates individually shortened
versions of each URL per User (namely, the twitter user, so there is
no way to find the URL that is created via Twitter status updates -
which would probably be the most common URL).
I thought I had found a way to at least approximate searching for
bit.ly-masked references on twitter with the /stats method from bitly.
Giving a bitly hash, the /stats method lists referrers by urls, which
might look like this (part of a /stats response):
twitter.com: { /: 1, /testFollowAPI: 1 } }
So I figured that I could then take all the paths that are not common
Twitter paths (like /home, /, /replies, /favorites, /inbox) and assume
that they are twitter accounts.
Then I searched Twitter for tweets from these accounts containing
bit.ly. For each hit, I would then again ask bit.ly to expand the
bit.ly url in the tweet. With any luck, I would find the tweet
referencing the url.
Apart from the fact that it is a pretty wasteful process (lots of
calls to bitly and also to Twitter search), I only just realized that
of course /stats only lists references when somebody has clicked on a
bit.ly URL. Since I don't expect many people to click on the URL on a
user's profile page, the utility of this approach is greatly
diminished. I think most of the referrers would just be /home if users
click on tweets in their stream.
I don't suppose Twitter would be willing to click on each incoming
bit.ly link with referrer from the tweeting user's page at least
once? ;-)
I gave the long story because I want to emphasize that as far as I
know, there still is no proper solution to this. Bit.ly does NOT
provide a way to list all shortened versions of an URL.
If there is such a method, please point me to it, because I just don't
see it.
I filed an issue for this a while ago, but it was closed with the
announcement that it would be solved sometime in the future.
Unfortunately there was not new issue or feature created that I
could track to see when it would be solved.
The original issue is here:
http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=402
Sorry for the long post - I just wasted so much time trying to work
around the issue, and only realized the flaws in the approach right
now...
Björn
[twitter-dev] Re: API Limits
Are you getting this from an IP that is whitelisted? Abraham On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 08:20, Greg gregory.av...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else getting 20,000 API calls when calling the rate_limit_status API? It doesnt matter who I authenticate with - it always shows 20,000 API calls for the user. Unless Twitter has given everyone 20,000 - I don't think that this is right. Thanks, Greg -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
[twitter-dev] Re: Is it okay to close a connection by opening a new one?
Why can't you do this entirely in your code? Why do you need to close the connection and reconnect? My software keeps the local data file open as long as the connection is open, so the connection must be closed before the file can be moved or deleted. Closing a file, moving it, and then creating a new file should be able to be done extremely fast ... I know, but these cannot be done while the connection is open, thus the need to close it. And since a new connection will need to be opened almost immediately anyways, the natural way for me to close it is to open a new one. JSON is a much better format to use. Not for me it isn't. My software has built-in XML parsing capabilities but it doesn't know how to deal with JSON data so XML is clearly the best way for me to go. Owkaye
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote: But I believe bit.ly returns different, unique URLs for logged-in users That is an option, but in my experience, it is relatively rare. Nick
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
On Jul 15, 4:27 pm, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote: But I believe bit.ly returns different, unique URLs for logged-in users That is an option, but in my experience, it is relatively rare. If you want to create a bitly url via the API, you have to be logged in. Therefore I assume twitter logs in to bit.ly to create the URLs. Therefore I would expect all bit.ly URLs that Twitter generates to be specific to Twitter. If you shorten a URL via some other account (you always have to login for the bit.ly API), it would result in a different URL. If Twitter could generate the standard URL, it would be a big step. Björn
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
On Jul 15, 4:17 pm, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: The solution is to go about this the opposite way. Bit.ly will return the same shortened URL for any request using the same source URL. So, use bit.ly to shorten the URL, then search Twitter for the bit.ly URL you get back. The same is true for other URL shortening services and the more popular ones all have APIs. That is exactly what I was trying to do, and it worked reasonably well for tinyurl (since the option for individual URLs with tinyurl was not so prominent). However, with bit.ly and I think most other popular shorteners the default now are individual URLs. Therefore that approach does not help much anymore. Also, one would have to search Twitter for all possible shortened URLs - that is the next problem. For now I would be happy if I could cover bit.ly and perhaps four ot five other ones. Björn
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
On Jul 15, 4:04 pm, Vision Jinx vjn...@gmail.com wrote: They also have an API... http://code.google.com/p/bitly-api/wiki/ApiDocumentation http://code.google.com/p/bitly-api/wiki/ApiDocumentation#REST_API Yes, but they don't offer a way to see all variations of a URL, so it does not help much. Björn
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth example in Java language
Hello, Bumped into this one as well. I'm afraid no solution but the reason for the error is that the appengine does not allow opening a socket to or access to another host (http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/runtime.html#The_Sandbox) Twitter4J seems to be doing just that when trying to authenticate: at java.lang.SecurityManager.checkConnect(Unknown Source) at java.net.URL.openConnection(Unknown Source) at twitter4j.http.HttpClient.getConnection(HttpClient.java:553) If anyone knows how to get arround this ... Hans On May 19, 3:31 pm, surya sravanthi.su...@gmail.com wrote: hi, The problem exists still can you suggest me a solution to integrate my Twitter4j oauth in google app engine.. I am a beginner, so it will be helpful if anyone could suggest me how to start sravanthi. On May 18, 6:29 pm, surya sravanthi sravanthi.su...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Thanks for your code. I have noticied that twitter.setAccessToken is not available in the Twitter.java in Twitter4j-2.0.3 version. I have tried using the instructions given in this link below: I think this will be helpful... This is working on localhost.. but I need my application which is in java to be deployed on google app engine. found that this is giving com.service.TwitterOAuthException: java.security.AccessControlException: access denied (java.lang.RuntimePermission modifyThreadGroup) exception.. can ou suggest me a method i could use to solve this problem Thanks again.. SravanthiOn Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Yusuke yus...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I wrote an OAuth example code for Java language. http://yusuke.homeip.net/twitter4j/en/code-examples.html#oauth I hope you caln add the link to the following page. http://apiwiki.twitter.com/OAuth-Examples Cheers, Yusuke
[twitter-dev] Re: Failed API returning over capacity HTML page content
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:03 AM, J.D. jeremy.d.mul...@gmail.com wrote: This is really a pain because I'm calling the API and expecting JSON data back. Do I need to check the data each time and see if I actually got html by mistake? If so, then I'm uncertain what I should do with the html. In my experience, that's necessary anyway - I wouldn't trust that it would never happen. My code waits a few seconds and tries again if the JSON parse fails. A bunch of fails in a row and it gives up. Nick
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
On Jul 15, 5:04 pm, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: There's a horrible solution to that, too... tweet the original URL and then read back the status to get the Twitter-specific bit.ly URL. Ugh. Actually that is a pretty good idea, thanks!!! It is horrible, but I can't think of a better way atm. I think twiturly have mentioned that they can resolve URLs to tweets, but their API is very limited. My current application is not cool enough to ask them for a higher rate limit ;-) Björn
[twitter-dev] Re: API Limits
I am getting the 20,000 limit, but the requests are being made from a whitelisted IP. According to the documentation, whitelisted IP take precedence over authentication, so requests will count against your IP limit rather than the user's. As a general question related to this topic: For all the developers who are working on a solution that involves authenticated users, would it be more convenient to get removed from the whitelist (or never apply for it) and use the authenticated user's 150 requests/hour limit? On Jul 15, 8:20 am, Greg gregory.av...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else getting 20,000 API calls when calling the rate_limit_status API? It doesnt matter who I authenticate with - it always shows 20,000 API calls for the user. Unless Twitter has given everyone 20,000 - I don't think that this is right. Thanks, Greg
[twitter-dev] Re: API Limits
I don't have a IP that is whitelisted. Only my twitter account is whitelisted. Thanks, Greg On Jul 15, 9:27 am, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote: Are you getting this from an IP that is whitelisted? Abraham On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 08:20, Greg gregory.av...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else getting 20,000 API calls when calling the rate_limit_status API? It doesnt matter who I authenticate with - it always shows 20,000 API calls for the user. Unless Twitter has given everyone 20,000 - I don't think that this is right. Thanks, Greg -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist |http://web608.org Hacker |http://abrah.am|http://twitter.com/abraham Project |http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
On Jul 15, 5:18 pm, Bjoern bjoer...@googlemail.com wrote: Actually that is a pretty good idea, thanks!!! Argh, except that Twitter rate limits will bite me :-( What I have implemented is a search web site that shows associated tweets to the URLs, so potentially it would generate a lot of requests (one page of search results is 10 URLs to check). Better apply for whitelisting now... Björn
[twitter-dev] Re: API Limits
On Jul 15, 11:22 am, iUpdateStatus iupdatesta...@gmail.com wrote: As a general question related to this topic: For all the developers who are working on a solution that involves authenticated users, would it be more convenient to get removed from the whitelist (or never apply for it) and use the authenticated user's 150 requests/hour limit? For me, yes. When the user rate limit was 100, as few as 200 simultaneous users have, collectively, the same rate limit as a whitelisted IP. Now that the limit is 150, it only takes 133.3 simultaneous users. If you anticipate having about 130 or more simultaneous users, whitelisting can work against you, but it's not completely black and white. If I have 50 really active users and 100 that aren't so active, whitelisting might be in my favor, because it means I can spend more requests on each of those 50 users than their 150/hr limit would otherwise allow. It really depends on how many simultaneous authenticated users you expect to have, what kind of users they are, and what kind of API requests your application is making on their behalf. For my application, whitelisting doesn't make sense. For yours it might.
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth example in Java language
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:44 AM, hanlhohlho...@gmail.com wrote: I'm afraid no solution but the reason for the error is that the appengine does not allow opening a socket to or access to another host (http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/runtime.html#The_Sandbox) Access to other hosts is allowed via a URLConnection, which is sufficient for doing OAuth. So you can make it work. FWIW, I ended up hacking Signpost[1], but I don't recommend that solution[2]. I'd be interested to hear about any Java libraries that work out of the box. -cks [1] http://code.google.com/p/oauth-signpost/ [2] http://artofsystems.blogspot.com/2009/07/popstat-on-google-app-engine.html -- Christopher St. John http://praxisbridge.com http://artofsystems.blogspot.com
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
On Jul 15, 11:21 am, Bjoern bjoer...@googlemail.com wrote: Argh, except that Twitter rate limits will bite me :-( What I have implemented is a search web site that shows associated tweets to the URLs, so potentially it would generate a lot of requests (one page of search results is 10 URLs to check). Better apply for whitelisting now... Not so fast... If I'm understanding you, the proposed solution is that for each non- shortened URL you want to search Twitter for, you send it in a status update, and then retrieve the shortened version by reading back that status, and then search Twitter for the shortened version. You can actually process 10 (or more) URLs with only one hit against your rate limit. How? Status updates don't count toward your rate limit (although Twitter may separately notice a large number of updates which are nothing more than URLs and mark you a spammer or something, but that's another discussion). So for 10 URLs, you post 10 status updates, then retrieve your own last 10 updates in one call by retrieving your own timeline via / statuses/user_timeline(and that's the one hit against your rate limit).
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth related bug with signature Woah there!
I've seen this same (I believe) bug manifested in different ways, and it's come up on this list before. Twitter are apparently storing some sort of return_to URL or similar in your session, and sending you to it at inopportune times. A great way to see it in action is to click on the Block this user link when you get a new follower email; after confirming the block, you wind up at some random page you visited in the past (well, not completely random, it'll generally be the most recent page you visited besides the block page). On Jul 15, 9:52 am, Scott Carter scarter28m-goo...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe that I have discovered a reproducible OAuth related bug. 1. Sign out of your Twitter account (from Twitter.com). 2. Authenticate an app using OAuth (haven't tried authorize flow with this issue). 3. Go to Twitter.com and login to a different account than used in step 2. I see the message: Woah there! This page requires some information that was not provided. Please return to the site that sent you to this page and try again … it was probably an honest mistake. with the page URL showing: https://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate When I revisit twitter.com, I am logged into the account from step 3. - Scott @scott_carter
[twitter-dev] Re: Looking for Web Developer in the Boston area for our Twitter App
Greg - just sent you an emailthanks. Chris On Jul 14, 6:14 pm, Greg gregory.av...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am interested in this. I am currently a developer for tweetsort (http://tweetsort.com) - a full twitter web client using PHP, Javascript, and MySQL. Please contact me at gregory.av...@gmail.com and I will send resume and more details. On Jul 14, 4:19 pm, Saltline Studio chris5gil...@gmail.com wrote: Hope its cool to post jobs here in this Google Group. TasteLive is growing and we are looking for a Web Developer to join out team. TasteLive is looking for a web developer local to the Boston area to join our Team. Twitter API, Twitter Search API Facebook API experience is a must. We have a 37 Signals approach to our business and to the building of the web application and are looking for a team player that can handle the Development and Maintenance of the Application. Skills: PHP, MySQL, Expression Engine, JSON, jQuery, Twitter API, Facebook API, Twitter Search API, other 3rd party API's like Twitpic Twitvid or Qik are helpful. more info here -http://tastelive.com/blog/view/tastelive-web-developer-position Thanks. Chris Saltline Studio
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Bill Kocik bko...@gmail.com wrote: So for 10 URLs, you post 10 status updates, then retrieve your own last 10 updates in one call by retrieving your own timeline via / statuses/user_timeline(and that's the one hit against your rate limit). If Twitter will shorten multiple URLs in the same tweet, you could get even more than that. I just tried putting two longer URLs in a tweet and it didn't shorten them at all, just did the ellipsis thing, so that was inconclusive. This method is rather unreliable, I suppose... and I don't want to post more test tweets. My mother will see them on Facebook and become confused. ;-) Nick
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
On Jul 15, 5:45 pm, Bill Kocik bko...@gmail.com wrote: Status updates don't count toward your rate limit (although Twitter may separately notice a large number of updates which are nothing more than URLs and mark you a spammer or something, but that's another discussion). Interesting, thanks! I did not think of the different limits. For updates there seems to be a limit of 1000 per day: http://help.twitter.com/forums/10711/entries/15364 But it might be a start as long as my application is not very popular. Atm it is more a testbed for me - although I think in general the application of showing tweets referencing a URL is a valid interest. I think the only solutions in the wild use something like twitpic, where you enter a message at twitpic and twitpic ads an identifier to find the message (the url to twitpic in that case). But it would be kind of cool to be able to do that for everything, for example on blog posts. I have been wondering if for blogs it would be easier to analyze the referrer log, but I don't think it would work. Referrer would either be just bit.ly (?), or it would be twitter.com/ home and stuff like that. Björn
[twitter-dev] Re: Looking for Web Developer in the Boston area for our Twitter App
We may entertain opening this up to people outside of the Boston area as well, so please contact me if you are interested in telecommute from anywhere. On Jul 15, 11:51 am, Saltline Studio chris5gil...@gmail.com wrote: Greg - just sent you an emailthanks. Chris On Jul 14, 6:14 pm, Greg gregory.av...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am interested in this. I am currently a developer for tweetsort (http://tweetsort.com) - a full twitter web client using PHP, Javascript, and MySQL. Please contact me at gregory.av...@gmail.com and I will send resume and more details. On Jul 14, 4:19 pm, Saltline Studio chris5gil...@gmail.com wrote: Hope its cool to post jobs here in this Google Group. TasteLive is growing and we are looking for a Web Developer to join out team. TasteLive is looking for a web developer local to the Boston area to join our Team. Twitter API, Twitter Search API Facebook API experience is a must. We have a 37 Signals approach to our business and to the building of the web application and are looking for a team player that can handle the Development and Maintenance of the Application. Skills: PHP, MySQL, Expression Engine, JSON, jQuery, Twitter API, Facebook API, Twitter Search API, other 3rd party API's like Twitpic Twitvid or Qik are helpful. more info here -http://tastelive.com/blog/view/tastelive-web-developer-position Thanks. Chris Saltline Studio
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm... just tried a few and sure enough, the bit.ly URLs generated by Twitter seem to be unique to Twitter, although consistent. Apparently Twitter has enabled bit.ly URL tracking. There's a horrible solution to that, too... tweet the original URL and then read back the status to get the Twitter-specific bit.ly URL. Ugh. Nick Those generated BY Twitter, sure. But plenty of people are using clients or plugins that are doing their own shortening, whether by bit.ly or otherwise, so they can track their own stats. If I go tweet a bit.ly URL I created in my own personal account with bit.ly, it will stick with my bit.ly URL, not a Twitter-gen'd bit.ly URL.
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
Hi there, Please be aware there are update limits in addition to the rate limit. There are also the spam and abuse marshals looking out for accounts acting suspiciously. Posting a bunch of link-only tweets seems like it's very likely to run afoul of them and get the account suspended. I can't say for sure since they're always evolving the types of abuse the check for but I don't recommend this course of action. Have you thought about using one of the APIs built for this, like backtweets [1]? Thanks; – Matt Sanford / @mzsanford Twitter Dev [1] - Disclaimer: I've not used the API at http://backtweets.com/api but it seems like what you're looking for. On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:52 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Bill Kocik bko...@gmail.com wrote: So for 10 URLs, you post 10 status updates, then retrieve your own last 10 updates in one call by retrieving your own timeline via / statuses/user_timeline(and that's the one hit against your rate limit). If Twitter will shorten multiple URLs in the same tweet, you could get even more than that. I just tried putting two longer URLs in a tweet and it didn't shorten them at all, just did the ellipsis thing, so that was inconclusive. This method is rather unreliable, I suppose... and I don't want to post more test tweets. My mother will see them on Facebook and become confused. ;-) Nick
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
On Jul 15, 5:57 pm, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote: Have you thought about using one of the APIs built for this, like backtweets [1]? I thought about them, but only as a last resort. Did not know about backtweets - they look good, but they also have a limit of 1000 calls/ day. I had also looked into FriendFeed, but they seem to only return people who are also on FriendFeed. Björn
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
There are 3 API's that I know of that you can use: Twitturly (Ours - Private beta only at the moment) Tweetmeme BackTweet Between the 3 of us, I am sure you can accomplish whatever your end-goal is. I do not think BackTweet processes all URLs, so they may not have a URL, but I do know that we do and Tweetmeme does. -Joel -Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bjoern Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:16 AM To: Twitter Development Talk Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others) On Jul 15, 5:57 pm, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote: Have you thought about using one of the APIs built for this, like backtweets [1]? I thought about them, but only as a last resort. Did not know about backtweets - they look good, but they also have a limit of 1000 calls/ day. I had also looked into FriendFeed, but they seem to only return people who are also on FriendFeed. Björn
[twitter-dev] twitter developer marketplace
Hello *, First off, this is *not* a launch notice, rather I wanted to get some feedback from the dev community. We were prototyping a marketplace for twitter developers and people looking to hire devs/designers to do twitter stuff. Everything is contained in the twitter eco system, i.e. everything is a tweet. People can post projects for hire, review developers and developers can post a portfolio, skillsets, and reply to projects for hire. Also, not trying to step on toes here. I know someone posted a site a few days ago with a aggregate site. This is more meant to be a replacement location for these types of interactions that occur on this list. If you are interested, please take a look. http://developers.twibs.com/ Thanks Peter
[twitter-dev] Re: twitter developer marketplace
Simple, easy and useful. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Peter Denton petermden...@gmail.comwrote: Hello *, First off, this is *not* a launch notice, rather I wanted to get some feedback from the dev community. We were prototyping a marketplace for twitter developers and people looking to hire devs/designers to do twitter stuff. Everything is contained in the twitter eco system, i.e. everything is a tweet. People can post projects for hire, review developers and developers can post a portfolio, skillsets, and reply to projects for hire. Also, not trying to step on toes here. I know someone posted a site a few days ago with a aggregate site. This is more meant to be a replacement location for these types of interactions that occur on this list. If you are interested, please take a look. http://developers.twibs.com/ Thanks Peter
[twitter-dev] Re: Failed API returning over capacity HTML page content
On Jul 15, 9:09 am, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: My code waits a few seconds and tries again if the JSON parse fails. A bunch of fails in a row and it gives up. Thanks. I have similar code around the web calls, but had not put it around the json parse yet.
[twitter-dev] Re: Searching for tweets that refer to an URL still impossible with bit.ly (and others)
On Jul 15, 6:36 pm, Joel Strellner j...@twitturly.com wrote: There are 3 API's that I know of that you can use: Twitturly (Ours - Private beta only at the moment) Tweetmeme BackTweet Between the 3 of us, I am sure you can accomplish whatever your end-goal is. Thanks - they are better than nothing, but they all have limitations. Not only rate limits, but for example I just read at Tweetmeme that they only keep URL references for the last 7 days. Polling as they suggest is not an option for me, as I don't know the URLs in advance. So I guess I'll have to wait for the Twiturly offering. Björn
[twitter-dev] Re: Failed API returning over capacity HTML page content
JD, Whether talking to the Twitter API or any other API on the web, always check the response code before attempting to do any processing of the response body. Proceed only if you got a 200 (or the response code you expected for that particular operation). Many things can go wrong in the process of making an HTTP request between your computer and our servers. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:32, J.D. jeremy.d.mul...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 15, 9:09 am, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: My code waits a few seconds and tries again if the JSON parse fails. A bunch of fails in a row and it gives up. Thanks. I have similar code around the web calls, but had not put it around the json parse yet. -- Alex Payne - Platform Lead, Twitter, Inc. http://twitter.com/al3x
[twitter-dev] Re: twitter developer marketplace
Very cool. Nice work! On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Peter Denton petermden...@gmail.comwrote: Hello *, First off, this is *not* a launch notice, rather I wanted to get some feedback from the dev community. We were prototyping a marketplace for twitter developers and people looking to hire devs/designers to do twitter stuff. Everything is contained in the twitter eco system, i.e. everything is a tweet. People can post projects for hire, review developers and developers can post a portfolio, skillsets, and reply to projects for hire. Also, not trying to step on toes here. I know someone posted a site a few days ago with a aggregate site. This is more meant to be a replacement location for these types of interactions that occur on this list. If you are interested, please take a look. http://developers.twibs.com/ Thanks Peter -- Wynn Netherland twitter: pengwynn
[twitter-dev] Re: Following metric is null
This is as designed. That attribute is essentially being deprecated. But in the Streaming API, we don't populate that field because we don't know who the requesting user is that we want to see if the target user is following. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 16:35, Kris Jirapinyo krispyj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Has anyone seen the following field from gardenhose API always returning null? Is this as designed or is it a bug? Thanks, Kris. -- Alex Payne - Platform Lead, Twitter, Inc. http://twitter.com/al3x
[twitter-dev] Re: Following metric is null
So are there plans to add following_count field like followers_count? I don't need to know exactly who the user's following, just how many users he's following. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: This is as designed. That attribute is essentially being deprecated. But in the Streaming API, we don't populate that field because we don't know who the requesting user is that we want to see if the target user is following. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 16:35, Kris Jirapinyo krispyj...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, Has anyone seen the following field from gardenhose API always returning null? Is this as designed or is it a bug? Thanks, Kris. -- Alex Payne - Platform Lead, Twitter, Inc. http://twitter.com/al3x
[twitter-dev] Re: Following metric is null
That field already exists under a different name: friends_count On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:12, Kris Jirapinyo krispyj...@gmail.com wrote: So are there plans to add following_count field like followers_count? I don't need to know exactly who the user's following, just how many users he's following. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: This is as designed. That attribute is essentially being deprecated. But in the Streaming API, we don't populate that field because we don't know who the requesting user is that we want to see if the target user is following. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 16:35, Kris Jirapinyo krispyj...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, Has anyone seen the following field from gardenhose API always returning null? Is this as designed or is it a bug? Thanks, Kris. -- Alex Payne - Platform Lead, Twitter, Inc. http://twitter.com/al3x -- Alex Payne - Platform Lead, Twitter, Inc. http://twitter.com/al3x
[twitter-dev] Re: Following metric is null
Ah, ok I see it now. Thanks a lot Alex! -- Kris. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: That field already exists under a different name: friends_count On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:12, Kris Jirapinyo krispyj...@gmail.comwrote: So are there plans to add following_count field like followers_count? I don't need to know exactly who the user's following, just how many users he's following. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: This is as designed. That attribute is essentially being deprecated. But in the Streaming API, we don't populate that field because we don't know who the requesting user is that we want to see if the target user is following. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 16:35, Kris Jirapinyo krispyj...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, Has anyone seen the following field from gardenhose API always returning null? Is this as designed or is it a bug? Thanks, Kris. -- Alex Payne - Platform Lead, Twitter, Inc. http://twitter.com/al3x -- Alex Payne - Platform Lead, Twitter, Inc. http://twitter.com/al3x
[twitter-dev] Re: twitter developer marketplace
Great! I was looking for something like this. At least as a developer. -- A K M Mokaddim http://twitter.com/shiplu Stop Top Posting !! বাংলিশ লেখার চাইতে বাংলা লেখা অনেক ভাল
[twitter-dev] Rules About Making Money
I have a business plan and I am looking to role it out. It involves using Twitter as a median. I have already gotten interest from parties willing to pay for my service, but I beleive it may infringe upon how Twitter will eventually make money. I do not want to invest in this service, and then have Twitter shut it down to replace it with their own. I sent Twitter an email today asking them for a possible discussion time, but I am guessing they get a ton of these and most likely won't respond. If not does anyone know the legality of using there service to make money? And the legality of them being able to shut off my account? Thanks.
[twitter-dev] Re: Rules About Making Money
Lots of people are making money via Twitter. Some sell their applications, others post ads directly on Twitter, others use Twitter content on their sites and include ads there; there are many different possible business models. As long as you stay within our terms of service - which, of course, may be updated at our discretion, so stay current - you should be fine. We do actively police spam and abusive behavior. Some people's conception of legitimate business, it turns out, is everyone else's conception of unsolicited and aggressive marketing. Don't do that. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 13:30, MakeMoney chicagolocalde...@gmail.comwrote: I have a business plan and I am looking to role it out. It involves using Twitter as a median. I have already gotten interest from parties willing to pay for my service, but I beleive it may infringe upon how Twitter will eventually make money. I do not want to invest in this service, and then have Twitter shut it down to replace it with their own. I sent Twitter an email today asking them for a possible discussion time, but I am guessing they get a ton of these and most likely won't respond. If not does anyone know the legality of using there service to make money? And the legality of them being able to shut off my account? Thanks. -- Alex Payne - Platform Lead, Twitter, Inc. http://twitter.com/al3x
[twitter-dev] Re: Rules About Making Money
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:30 PM, MakeMoney chicagolocalde...@gmail.comwrote: I have a business plan and I am looking to role it out. It involves using Twitter as a median. I have already gotten interest from parties willing to pay for my service, but I beleive it may infringe upon how Twitter will eventually make money. I do not want to invest in this service, and then have Twitter shut it down to replace it with their own. I sent Twitter an email today asking them for a possible discussion time, but I am guessing they get a ton of these and most likely won't respond. If not does anyone know the legality of using there service to make money? And the legality of them being able to shut off my account? Thanks. Generally speaking, any company that uses its terms of service to stifle competition is running the risk of violating anti-trust laws. For that reason, I seriously doubt if they'll even answer your email. That's a very dangerous conversation to have. Companies have to compete on their offerings, not by making deals with potential competitors. Consider the fact that there are hundreds or thousands of software developers who use Windows to compete with Microsoft. Not only is that legal, Microsoft has found itself in legal hot water when it tries to prevent it. Imagine, for example, if Microsoft tried to stop OpenOffice from running under Windows. The U.S. DOJ would jump all over that. On the other hand, when you're dancing with the elephant it is easy to get stepped on. As I think Heidi Roizen used to say, How do you know that Microsoft likes you? They crush you last. A lot of people don't understand anti-trust laws and how they affect communities and their conversations. For example, it would be a huge problem if developers here began discussing and comparing how much they charge for their work. That sort of conversation tends to be interpreted by the courts as price fixing, which is unlawful. Nick
[twitter-dev] Re: twitter developer marketplace
I signed up, looks good. I didn't get the @ confirmation, what's that about? One little suggestion, if you're going to have checkboxes for toolkits and libraries, how about listing some Javascript frameworks? Oh, and how about giving us a nice link (to our websites) on the profile pages? That would nice nice :-) --- http://www.ferodynamics.com/
[twitter-dev] Re: twitter developer marketplace
You probably shouldn't let developers rate themselves: http://developers.twibs.com/developer/abraham/feedback :-P Abraham On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 16:19, ferodynamics duch...@solve360.com wrote: I signed up, looks good. I didn't get the @ confirmation, what's that about? One little suggestion, if you're going to have checkboxes for toolkits and libraries, how about listing some Javascript frameworks? Oh, and how about giving us a nice link (to our websites) on the profile pages? That would nice nice :-) --- http://www.ferodynamics.com/ -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
[twitter-dev] Re: Rules About Making Money
Thanks, This was very helpful. I do not use any sort of bots or anything like that, and only people that wish to follow me follow me. I would like to streamline my services though for nationwide offerings and just wanted to make sure that I would invest in this and then have it shut off. Brian
[twitter-dev] Safe url shorteners
Just wanted to let you guys know about a free service we're prototyping for shortening URL's that overcomes a few of the limitations of other shorteners. http://rt.nu/api/ Specifically shortened links include a screen shot 'preview' w/ a continue/cancel option and the full URL is displayed *before* redirecting users to prevent NSFW accidents ;) and other subversive tricks used by spammers and hackers. (ex: http://rt.nu/iqzh). The API lets you: 1.) Shorten links 2.) Dereference the original url of a shortened link 3.) Click throughs 4.) Referrers 5.) Velocity (clicks per hour) 6.) Rank (ctr vs all other rt.nu links) If you end up implementing RT.nu or playing with the API, we'd really appreciate any feedback. -- Kevin Mesiab CEO, Mesiab Labs L.L.C. http://www.mesiablabs.com
[twitter-dev] Re: Safe url shorteners
Just wanted to let you guys know about a free service we're prototyping for shortening URL's that overcomes a few of the limitations of other shorteners. Only one problems with all these URL shorteners, when the companies creating them disappear all their shortened URLs become orphans and therefore useless. Not a major problem on Twitter because of the typical transience of data, but when you run a company like mine that needs to reference historic data it will definitely create future problems when these companies fail. Just something for folks to consider ... Owkaye
[twitter-dev] Re: Rules About Making Money
On Jul 15, 2:54 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Even then, we reach out and attempt to work with the developer before taking any action. That's delightful to know. Seriously :). Working with APIs is often a pain but Twitter's managed to create a pretty good ecosystem for developers by providing support and open communication. Kudos.
[twitter-dev] Re: Safe url shorteners
. Interesting mods. Would I be able to use it with my own domain (Fol.la for branding)? FYI 1. inserted a link that it said was not valid (but works fine) 2. does not give me screenshot prior On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Kevin Mesiab ke...@mesiablabs.com wrote: Just wanted to let you guys know about a free service we're prototyping for shortening URL's that overcomes a few of the limitations of other shorteners. http://rt.nu/api/ Specifically shortened links include a screen shot 'preview' w/ a continue/cancel option and the full URL is displayed *before* redirecting users to prevent NSFW accidents ;) and other subversive tricks used by spammers and hackers. (ex: http://rt.nu/iqzh). The API lets you: 1.) Shorten links 2.) Dereference the original url of a shortened link 3.) Click throughs 4.) Referrers 5.) Velocity (clicks per hour) 6.) Rank (ctr vs all other rt.nu links) If you end up implementing RT.nu or playing with the API, we'd really appreciate any feedback. -- Kevin Mesiab CEO, Mesiab Labs L.L.C. http://www.mesiablabs.com
[twitter-dev] Re: Safe url shorteners
That's a valid concern that we share in our retweet.com application. We dereference all shortened urls before indexing tweets. In anticipation, rt.nu supplies the API call /api/stats/[short]/originalhttp://rt.nu/api/stats/8kw/original to grab the original url for archiving or displaying to end users. Dale: All links are dereferenced by rt.nu to be qualified before shortening. Currently in beta, we've set the qualifications a bit tight and urls that redirect using some schemes will be rejected, and some bad http status headers will also cause rejection. This will be cleaned up a bit before full public deployment. At present, all urls use rt.nu as the root domain and are typically between 7 and 10 characters. Screenshots are gathered via http://www.thumbshots.com/ which works like this: 1.) If the full url exists in the cache its image is returned, then the url is queued for a new shot. 2.) If the full url does not exist in the cache as a screenshot, the root domain is looked up. If the root domain is in the cache, that shot is returned and the full url is queued for a new shot. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, owkaye owk...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to let you guys know about a free service we're prototyping for shortening URL's that overcomes a few of the limitations of other shorteners. Only one problems with all these URL shorteners, when the companies creating them disappear all their shortened URLs become orphans and therefore useless. Not a major problem on Twitter because of the typical transience of data, but when you run a company like mine that needs to reference historic data it will definitely create future problems when these companies fail. Just something for folks to consider ... Owkaye -- Kevin Mesiab CEO, Mesiab Labs L.L.C. http://twitter.com/kmesiab http://mesiablabs.com http://retweet.com
[twitter-dev] Re: Safe url shorteners
You may want to check what thumbshots is doing with the URL http://google.com/ . It's definitely not taking a screenshot of the correct site … -- Chris Thomson On 15-Jul-09, at 7:06 PM, Kevin Mesiab wrote: That's a valid concern that we share in our retweet.com application. We dereference all shortened urls before indexing tweets. In anticipation, rt.nu supplies the API call /api/stats/[short]/ original to grab the original url for archiving or displaying to end users. Dale: All links are dereferenced by rt.nu to be qualified before shortening. Currently in beta, we've set the qualifications a bit tight and urls that redirect using some schemes will be rejected, and some bad http status headers will also cause rejection. This will be cleaned up a bit before full public deployment. At present, all urls use rt.nu as the root domain and are typically between 7 and 10 characters. Screenshots are gathered via http://www.thumbshots.com/ which works like this: 1.) If the full url exists in the cache its image is returned, then the url is queued for a new shot. 2.) If the full url does not exist in the cache as a screenshot, the root domain is looked up. If the root domain is in the cache, that shot is returned and the full url is queued for a new shot. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, owkaye owk...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to let you guys know about a free service we're prototyping for shortening URL's that overcomes a few of the limitations of other shorteners. Only one problems with all these URL shorteners, when the companies creating them disappear all their shortened URLs become orphans and therefore useless. Not a major problem on Twitter because of the typical transience of data, but when you run a company like mine that needs to reference historic data it will definitely create future problems when these companies fail. Just something for folks to consider ... Owkaye -- Kevin Mesiab CEO, Mesiab Labs L.L.C. http://twitter.com/kmesiab http://mesiablabs.com http://retweet.com
[twitter-dev] Re: Safe url shorteners
Thumbshots.com is a paid service too. Major fail. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Chris Thomson chri...@chris24.ca wrote: You may want to check what thumbshots is doing with the URL http://google.com/ . It's definitely not taking a screenshot of the correct site … -- Chris Thomson On 15-Jul-09, at 7:06 PM, Kevin Mesiab wrote: That's a valid concern that we share in our retweet.com application. We dereference all shortened urls before indexing tweets. In anticipation, rt.nu supplies the API call /api/stats/[short]/originalhttp://rt.nu/api/stats/8kw/original to grab the original url for archiving or displaying to end users. Dale: All links are dereferenced by rt.nu to be qualified before shortening. Currently in beta, we've set the qualifications a bit tight and urls that redirect using some schemes will be rejected, and some bad http status headers will also cause rejection. This will be cleaned up a bit before full public deployment. At present, all urls use rt.nu as the root domain and are typically between 7 and 10 characters. Screenshots are gathered via http://www.thumbshots.com/ which works like this: 1.) If the full url exists in the cache its image is returned, then the url is queued for a new shot. 2.) If the full url does not exist in the cache as a screenshot, the root domain is looked up. If the root domain is in the cache, that shot is returned and the full url is queued for a new shot. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, owkaye owk...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to let you guys know about a free service we're prototyping for shortening URL's that overcomes a few of the limitations of other shorteners. Only one problems with all these URL shorteners, when the companies creating them disappear all their shortened URLs become orphans and therefore useless. Not a major problem on Twitter because of the typical transience of data, but when you run a company like mine that needs to reference historic data it will definitely create future problems when these companies fail. Just something for folks to consider ... Owkaye -- Kevin Mesiab CEO, Mesiab Labs L.L.C. http://twitter.com/kmesiab http://mesiablabs.com http://retweet.com -- Kevin Mesiab CEO, Mesiab Labs L.L.C. http://twitter.com/kmesiab http://mesiablabs.com http://retweet.com
[twitter-dev] Re: Safe url shorteners
got this message below after clicking yes on do I want to continue, from one of your sites. My first impression of this feature is not so good for a few reasons, the least of which is the annoyance factor... Oops, Retweet.com hiccupped. Here's why: This cloud node could not resolve the ReTweet server. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Kevin Mesiab ke...@mesiablabs.com wrote: Thumbshots.com is a paid service too. Major fail. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Chris Thomson chri...@chris24.ca wrote: You may want to check what thumbshots is doing with the URL http://google.com/ . It's definitely not taking a screenshot of the correct site … -- Chris Thomson On 15-Jul-09, at 7:06 PM, Kevin Mesiab wrote: That's a valid concern that we share in our retweet.com application. We dereference all shortened urls before indexing tweets. In anticipation, rt.nu supplies the API call /api/stats/[short]/originalhttp://rt.nu/api/stats/8kw/original to grab the original url for archiving or displaying to end users. Dale: All links are dereferenced by rt.nu to be qualified before shortening. Currently in beta, we've set the qualifications a bit tight and urls that redirect using some schemes will be rejected, and some bad http status headers will also cause rejection. This will be cleaned up a bit before full public deployment. At present, all urls use rt.nu as the root domain and are typically between 7 and 10 characters. Screenshots are gathered via http://www.thumbshots.com/ which works like this: 1.) If the full url exists in the cache its image is returned, then the url is queued for a new shot. 2.) If the full url does not exist in the cache as a screenshot, the root domain is looked up. If the root domain is in the cache, that shot is returned and the full url is queued for a new shot. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM, owkaye owk...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to let you guys know about a free service we're prototyping for shortening URL's that overcomes a few of the limitations of other shorteners. Only one problems with all these URL shorteners, when the companies creating them disappear all their shortened URLs become orphans and therefore useless. Not a major problem on Twitter because of the typical transience of data, but when you run a company like mine that needs to reference historic data it will definitely create future problems when these companies fail. Just something for folks to consider ... Owkaye -- Kevin Mesiab CEO, Mesiab Labs L.L.C. http://twitter.com/kmesiab http://mesiablabs.com http://retweet.com -- Kevin Mesiab CEO, Mesiab Labs L.L.C. http://twitter.com/kmesiab http://mesiablabs.com http://retweet.com
[twitter-dev] Re: Failed API returning over capacity HTML page content
Whether talking to the Twitter API or any other API on the web, always check the response code before attempting to do any processing of the response body. Proceed only if you got a 200 (or the response code you expected for that particular operation). Many things can go wrong in the process of making an HTTP request between your computer and our servers. I'm fairly certain I did get a 200, but I got html instead of the json I requested.
[twitter-dev] Is it possible to control the source name
Hi I am using the new oAuth method for communicating with the Twitter API. It appears the default behavior is to include the application name as the source of a post. For instance... [date/time] from DynamicTweets This is fine in most cases but in certain cases we want to make a post look like it came from the web and not display our application name... [date/time] from web Is this possible, I've looked through many threads and I can't seem to find a way to do this and the source= parameter doesn't seem to work.
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth related bug with signature Woah there!
+1 Even I keep hitting this issue.Hope twitter guys make oauth registration solid. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Bill Kocikbko...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen this same (I believe) bug manifested in different ways, and it's come up on this list before. Twitter are apparently storing some sort of return_to URL or similar in your session, and sending you to it at inopportune times. A great way to see it in action is to click on the Block this user link when you get a new follower email; after confirming the block, you wind up at some random page you visited in the past (well, not completely random, it'll generally be the most recent page you visited besides the block page). On Jul 15, 9:52 am, Scott Carter scarter28m-goo...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe that I have discovered a reproducible OAuth related bug. 1. Sign out of your Twitter account (from Twitter.com). 2. Authenticate an app using OAuth (haven't tried authorize flow with this issue). 3. Go to Twitter.com and login to a different account than used in step 2. I see the message: Woah there! This page requires some information that was not provided. Please return to the site that sent you to this page and try again … it was probably an honest mistake. with the page URL showing: https://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate When I revisit twitter.com, I am logged into the account from step 3. - Scott @scott_carter -- Spike Milligan - All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/spike_milligan.html
[twitter-dev] Re: Is it possible to control the source name
Nope. If you post using an OAuth application that application is what it shows up as coming from. You can always send the user to http://twitter.com/home?status=text+goes+here Abraham On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 18:46, AccountingSoftwareGuy virga.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am using the new oAuth method for communicating with the Twitter API. It appears the default behavior is to include the application name as the source of a post. For instance... [date/time] from DynamicTweets This is fine in most cases but in certain cases we want to make a post look like it came from the web and not display our application name... [date/time] from web Is this possible, I've looked through many threads and I can't seem to find a way to do this and the source= parameter doesn't seem to work. -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
[twitter-dev] Re: Is it possible to control the source name
-Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of AccountingSoftwareGuy Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:46 PM To: Twitter Development Talk Subject: [twitter-dev] Is it possible to control the source name Hi I am using the new oAuth method for communicating with the Twitter API. It appears the default behavior is to include the application name as the source of a post. For instance... [date/time] from DynamicTweets This is fine in most cases but in certain cases we want to make a post look like it came from the web and not display our application name... [date/time] from web Is this possible, I've looked through many threads and I can't seem to find a way to do this and the source= parameter doesn't seem to work.
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth related bug with signature Woah there!
I don't know whether or no it will help, but I will try it any way. Thanks -Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of test test Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:51 PM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: OAuth related bug with signature Woah there! +1 Even I keep hitting this issue.Hope twitter guys make oauth registration solid. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Bill Kocikbko...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen this same (I believe) bug manifested in different ways, and it's come up on this list before. Twitter are apparently storing some sort of return_to URL or similar in your session, and sending you to it at inopportune times. A great way to see it in action is to click on the Block this user link when you get a new follower email; after confirming the block, you wind up at some random page you visited in the past (well, not completely random, it'll generally be the most recent page you visited besides the block page). On Jul 15, 9:52 am, Scott Carter scarter28m-goo...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe that I have discovered a reproducible OAuth related bug. 1. Sign out of your Twitter account (from Twitter.com). 2. Authenticate an app using OAuth (haven't tried authorize flow with this issue). 3. Go to Twitter.com and login to a different account than used in step 2. I see the message: Woah there! This page requires some information that was not provided. Please return to the site that sent you to this page and try again it was probably an honest mistake. with the page URL showing: https://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate When I revisit twitter.com, I am logged into the account from step 3. - Scott @scott_carter -- Spike Milligan - All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/spike_milligan.html
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth related bug with signature Woah there!
-Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of test test Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:51 PM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: OAuth related bug with signature Woah there! +1 Even I keep hitting this issue.Hope twitter guys make oauth registration solid. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Bill Kocikbko...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen this same (I believe) bug manifested in different ways, and it's come up on this list before. Twitter are apparently storing some sort of return_to URL or similar in your session, and sending you to it at inopportune times. A great way to see it in action is to click on the Block this user link when you get a new follower email; after confirming the block, you wind up at some random page you visited in the past (well, not completely random, it'll generally be the most recent page you visited besides the block page). On Jul 15, 9:52 am, Scott Carter scarter28m-goo...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe that I have discovered a reproducible OAuth related bug. 1. Sign out of your Twitter account (from Twitter.com). 2. Authenticate an app using OAuth (haven't tried authorize flow with this issue). 3. Go to Twitter.com and login to a different account than used in step 2. I see the message: Woah there! This page requires some information that was not provided. Please return to the site that sent you to this page and try again it was probably an honest mistake. with the page URL showing: https://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate When I revisit twitter.com, I am logged into the account from step 3. - Scott @scott_carter -- Spike Milligan - All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/spike_milligan.html
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth related bug with signature Woah there!
-Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of test test Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:51 PM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: OAuth related bug with signature Woah there! +1 Even I keep hitting this issue.Hope twitter guys make oauth registration solid. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Bill Kocikbko...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen this same (I believe) bug manifested in different ways, and it's come up on this list before. Twitter are apparently storing some sort of return_to URL or similar in your session, and sending you to it at inopportune times. A great way to see it in action is to click on the Block this user link when you get a new follower email; after confirming the block, you wind up at some random page you visited in the past (well, not completely random, it'll generally be the most recent page you visited besides the block page). On Jul 15, 9:52 am, Scott Carter scarter28m-goo...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe that I have discovered a reproducible OAuth related bug. 1. Sign out of your Twitter account (from Twitter.com). 2. Authenticate an app using OAuth (haven't tried authorize flow with this issue). 3. Go to Twitter.com and login to a different account than used in step 2. I see the message: Woah there! This page requires some information that was not provided. Please return to the site that sent you to this page and try again it was probably an honest mistake. with the page URL showing: https://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate When I revisit twitter.com, I am logged into the account from step 3. - Scott @scott_carter -- Spike Milligan - All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/spike_milligan.html
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth related bug with signature Woah there!
-Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of test test Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:51 PM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: OAuth related bug with signature Woah there! +1 Even I keep hitting this issue.Hope twitter guys make oauth registration solid. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Bill Kocikbko...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen this same (I believe) bug manifested in different ways, and it's come up on this list before. Twitter are apparently storing some sort of return_to URL or similar in your session, and sending you to it at inopportune times. A great way to see it in action is to click on the Block this user link when you get a new follower email; after confirming the block, you wind up at some random page you visited in the past (well, not completely random, it'll generally be the most recent page you visited besides the block page). On Jul 15, 9:52 am, Scott Carter scarter28m-goo...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe that I have discovered a reproducible OAuth related bug. 1. Sign out of your Twitter account (from Twitter.com). 2. Authenticate an app using OAuth (haven't tried authorize flow with this issue). 3. Go to Twitter.com and login to a different account than used in step 2. I see the message: Woah there! This page requires some information that was not provided. Please return to the site that sent you to this page and try again it was probably an honest mistake. with the page URL showing: https://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate When I revisit twitter.com, I am logged into the account from step 3. - Scott @scott_carter -- Spike Milligan - All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/spike_milligan.html
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth related bug with signature Woah there!
-Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of test test Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:51 PM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: OAuth related bug with signature Woah there! +1 Even I keep hitting this issue.Hope twitter guys make oauth registration solid. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Bill Kocikbko...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen this same (I believe) bug manifested in different ways, and it's come up on this list before. Twitter are apparently storing some sort of return_to URL or similar in your session, and sending you to it at inopportune times. A great way to see it in action is to click on the Block this user link when you get a new follower email; after confirming the block, you wind up at some random page you visited in the past (well, not completely random, it'll generally be the most recent page you visited besides the block page). On Jul 15, 9:52 am, Scott Carter scarter28m-goo...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe that I have discovered a reproducible OAuth related bug. 1. Sign out of your Twitter account (from Twitter.com). 2. Authenticate an app using OAuth (haven't tried authorize flow with this issue). 3. Go to Twitter.com and login to a different account than used in step 2. I see the message: Woah there! This page requires some information that was not provided. Please return to the site that sent you to this page and try again it was probably an honest mistake. with the page URL showing: https://twitter.com/oauth/authenticate When I revisit twitter.com, I am logged into the account from step 3. - Scott @scott_carter -- Spike Milligan - All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/spike_milligan.html
[twitter-dev] Tweetworks API is Available
Tweetworks brings groups (both public and private) and threaded conversations to the Twitterverse. If you would to add these features to your Twitter application please feel free to leverage our API. API Documentation: http://www.tweetworks.com/pages/api You will need an API Key but that is only so we can have a sense of the amount of volume coming from each app. @UltraNurd has created a full Python bindings/code library for working with the API: Python Site: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/tweetworks/ GitHub: http://github.com/UltraNurd/tweetworks-py/tree/master You may contact me directly with any questions or if you'd like to bang around development ideas. Mike Langford m...@tweetworks.com @MikeLangford
[twitter-dev] Re: Does Rate Limiting Apply to Users or Clients?
If i have 2 accounts abc and efg, then i use a httpclient (java) as a client to get the friend's status from a web application (which use the Twitter4j), then how do this rate limiting for these 2 accounts abc and efg? each account has 150 requests? The how about the web applicaiton only have 150 requests can be sent? Thanks' Lee On Jul 7, 9:16 am, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote: Each account has 150 requests / hr. If that that account is being used from several clients all of the hits will count against the 150. Abraham On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 19:54, devstudent andrey...@gmail.com wrote: If a person uses 2 clients. Can each client make 150 requests / hr, or does the 150 limit apply to both clients? -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist |http://web608.org Hacker |http://abrah.am|http://twitter.com/abraham Project |http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.
[twitter-dev] Is the rate limiting on IP or User a/c
Hi All, I would like to ask, the default rate limit for calls to the REST API is 150 requests per hour, is the rate limiting on IP (client) or on User A/C? I have a web application to get the friend's status. I didn't a testing to on this web application, using an A/C ABC to keep on getting the friend's status. It ran about 70++ time to got the result successfully, after that twitter returned exceed rate limiting. Then i tried to use another A/C DEF to continue to get the friend's status, but twitter returned exceed rate limiting. Guys, do you have any idea on this rate limiting is on IP or A/C? Thanks and Regards,
