Havving played with XML (and not very deeply) I got the impression that
one can join FILEs to give you effective sub-sub-sub style nesting .
However, seeing as my testing was limited to exporting a nearly-flat
file into MS's Infopath, I didnt' try digging very deeply.
Cheers,
Wol
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Depends on your local system. If it's a winterm or xterm, where's the
hard disk for you to have locally installed GUI apps?
What you've just defined is a fat client, not a thin one. By
definition, a thin client *doesn't* *have* a disk attached to the local
workstation...
Cheers,
Wol
You'll need to search the archives for this (I don't have any of the
stuff you mention :-) but there was discussion about calling virtual
fields from ODBC a little while ago.
I think at least one of the points was does it rely on environment
variables or stuff set up by LOGIN? It appears that
That's a LITTLE unfair :-)
Yes Miguel is a publicist, but the war is fought mainly by clueless
lusers who don't understand the real issues :-(
KDE is C++ and Free, Gnome is C and Open. There are fundamentally deep
issues with regard to all four choices, and the developers mostly
respect each
someone happened to read them
and reply.
As for the lack of immediacy, good email integration seems to me to
solve that.
The argument that, for some people, access to email is more acceptable
in their environment than access to email, however, is a very valid one.
On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 02:03, Anthony
All our accounts (including ODBC) are either PI or PI/Open flavour.
However, as this is very close to IDEAL, it's no surprise that we don't
have any (serious) problems. (If you exclude the fact that
HS.UPDATE.FILEINFO seems to close the wIntegrate connection rather too
often for comfort :-(
I think forums may be available (again) soon on the u2ug site - I'm not
sure.
But one of the reasons behind the muddle at u2ug was that a lot of
people DON'T like forums - they find them a pig to use even if they have
access.
I don't take the digest, for precisely the reason you've discovered. I
And if they show any sign of regaining their old market share on
Windows, expect the and work to cease to be true ...
Actually - isn't that one of the aims of Longhorn - to totally break all
legacy doze apps?
Cheers,
Wol
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I'm planning (when I get the chance) to resurrect the EXL7330 in my
garage. And the reason I salvaged it from work is that it has PI/Open on
it ...
Cheers,
Wol
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On Behalf Of Jeff Fitzgerald
Sent: 15 April 2004 21:34
To:
Ummm... My wife will murder me for this ... but I'd love to have a copy
(we've lost a lot of ours). Scan them or whatever. If I'm up your way
for some reason (I go up the M1 regularly, but have my wife with me ...)
I'd relieve you of them.
Cheers,
Wol
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From: Martin
For SuSE, I had to remove all the options to cpio.
Note also, that when it tries to set up the daemon to autostart on boot,
that fails also because SuSE uses a different /etc/rc.d setup. That
needs manually fixing, because you can't run uv as a user unless uvd is
running.
Cheers,
Wol
Okay, it's AIX not linux, but I've just noticed that RAM = swap.
You are an ABSOLUTE FOOL if you do that on linux. Maybe (or maybe not)
the same applies to AIX - quite likely since they are both nixen and
probably manage memory similiarly.
Double swap space to 8Gb and see if that improves
We have programs that make extensive use of data statements. And they
regularly screwed up because people asked us to change the prompt
sequence (adding new requests or whatever...)
So I've been steadily rewriting them all to use arguments on the command
line, retrieving it all from @SENTENCE.
Acrobat 6, certainly initially, had, well, issues.
Something to do with compatibility, and not liking files created by
earlier versions.
Cheers,
Wol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Stuart Boydell
Sent: 02 April 2004 00:24
To: U2 Users
Basic
Anthony Youngman...
'A = 1' and 'A = 1' both result in IDENTICAL p-code.
This is certainly how the UD compiler works.
I say its a bug, because 'A=1.1' and 'A=1,1' *don't* result in the
same
p-code - and it doesn't just differ by the comma - one is stored as a
string
the other as a number
In one word - it's IMPOSSIBLE.
Okay, you may be able to achieve what you want, though. The thing is,
the output of pdf and pcl is an image, Word and xml are structured text.
You can't go automatically from a structure-free format to a structured
format.
I'd investigate ghostscript, and see if
doesn't
mean
that 99.9 percent don't either. Everyone can figure this out for
themselves.
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From: Anthony Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: How to launch remote browser from UniVerse
reports each line as INTEGER or STRING depending
on
how the data was entered in the
source code.
Regards,
Stewart
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From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:15
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: RE: Data typing in MV Basic
What do we do? It looks like the answer may well be wait and your
prayers will be answered :-)
I'm getting vibes (so no promises here!) that there may well soon be a
forum to email gateway. How usable it will be I don't know, but other
people have the same problem on other sites, and it sounds
Except that IBM has precious little to do with U2UG.
Okay, they want to help us, but there's that little matter of being
beholden to your sponsor, which we are not and we most definitely do
not want to become.
U2UG is OF the users, BY the users, and FOR the users. It has nothing to
do with IBM
, and neither IBM nor u2ug.
Cheers,
Wol
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On Behalf Of Ron White
Sent: 30 March 2004 16:14
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: Re: The lists are closing
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From: Anthony Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip
He's doing a SCO ... when you give him any facts he just repeats his
baseless assertions :-)
Yes we know a screwdriver is far better and newer technology, but that
still doesn't mean it beats a hammer for driving nails :-) (Well, it
does if you're too dumb to learn how to use a hammer, but that's
You've missed the point! :-)
These two statements apparently have exactly the same effect - the
question is do they?
A = 1
A = 1
(In the stuff I'm writing, they'd be the same - everything is a string
until it is forced into numeric.)
Cheers,
Wol
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From: [EMAIL
My other, !!!MAJOR!!! concern with this is the loss of the medium of
mail. This is actually probably quite a serious loss for non-USians :-(
(Plus it's the only practical medium at work :-(
Forum software assumes easy access to a fast, cheap internet pipe. None
of the fora I have seen is
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Sent: Monday, 29 March 2004 19:16
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: RE: U2UG Contract
SNIP
- consolidating the MV world back to cdp is something I'm very pro.
SNIP
As a relative new list-user could you please let us know what 'cdp' is?
Thanks
Ye'll tak the high road and I'll tak the low road ...
Cheers,
Wol
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On Behalf Of Burwell, Edward
Sent: 29 March 2004 15:35
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: RE: The lists are closing
..Yes I'll see you, I'll see
Simple!
He's saying Don't mix web and email. And I couldn't agree more. If I
get a forum post sent to me by email, I don't want the grief and hassle
of firing up a browser, and a web connection, and and and ...
Oh - and I've just recently upgraded my email client at home. The
assumption when the
Did you know the Americans weren't even the first to build a successful
aeroplane?
The first aircraft built that flew successfully (note my strange word
order :-) was built in 1896, in England.
Unfortunately, it had to be rebuilt, and the first successful flight was
(iirc) 1912.
Cheers,
Wol
Look at BY.EXP. It returns a select list of keys separated by @FMs,
each key being @ID @VM FIELD.VALUE. You'll need to manipulate it
yourself converting @VMs to *s if that's the way you want it.
Cheers,
Wol
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There IS some way of setting the environment. Don't ask me how :-(
Probably control panel and then somewhere deep in the bowels of
system management.
Cheers,
Wol
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On Behalf Of djordan
Sent: 25 March 2004 06:17
To: 'U2
We use sophos. www.sophos.com
Just a dedicated AV company, and does nothing else.
Plus you can get bulk licences (or could last I checked) so it is
MANDATORY for all personal pcs that they be running sophos if the owner
wishes to connect them to the company net. We just give them a cd and
tell
After you decrement LOP, you need to decrement MAX. Otherwise the loop will be unable
to get beyond 4.
Think about it - as soon as you delete a null value, you are guaranteeing that if
null will be true on your last pass, thereby decrementing LOP and requiring another
pass, which will do the
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:47 AM
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: RE: Optimisation ?
After you decrement LOP, you need to decrement MAX. Otherwise the loop will
be unable to get beyond 4.
Think
AARRGGHH!!
NEVER EVER run antivirus on a server.
You should firewall your server. You should scan it for viruses. You should NEVER have
background antivirus stuff running on it!
You keep the server infection-free by strictly controlling what you allow to run on
it. If a client stuffs infected
FYI, colon works fine in winders ... it's the standard command-line
command separator ...
Don't forget - a lot of windows was copied from nix - the only reason
the '/' wasn't copied (and in a way it was, it tends to work) is that
DOS was designed to be compatible with CP/M - and '/' was legal in
FYI, this sounds very similar to the problem I have with
HS.UPDATE.FILEINFO, so it isn't necessarily your code ...
Cheers,
Wol
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On Behalf Of Mark Eastwood
Sent: 22 March 2004 16:23
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Reboot?
Probably not okay. Can you do a ps -ef at unix level and identify the
process there? LISTU may well tell you this number too. Then do a kill
-15 on the process. That'll tell it to shut itself down cleanly. If
that fails, then try a kill -9. If that fails, it's a problem with
Unix, and a
Well, 9.5 is a VMark product ... I'm not surprised IBM said the
documentation doesn't exist. As we know from the licencing fiasco, the
chain of control somewhere there went down the pan ... it's changed
hands three times since then and somebody probably mislaid it somewhere
...
I've probably got
running this query with other users on the system, who
may be also trying to access the files this query is working with?
Are you runing this at night when it might conflict with a backup
operation?
More food for thought.
Regards,
Scott
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From: Anthony Youngman [EMAIL
But doesn't DEP.SUP have two Ps in it? :-)
Cheers,
Wol
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On Behalf Of Nick Southwell
Sent: 16 March 2004 10:40
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: RE: Suppressing detail in UniObjects command
Thanks go to Tony and
Not really.
MTBF means it'll run for 10 minutes without falling over. SLA can mean
anything. If I was an office manager, I might well say (indeed, it's
pretty much our internal SLA) that our systems will be guaranteed
available between 8am and 6pm. So I can have 14 hours downtime a day,
and still
Minor nitpick ...
In linux, I think you'll find more is a link to less. Either that,
or you'll find the behaviour of the program changes depending which name
it is called by, and less has the better set of options :-)
Cheers,
Wol
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And look in Windows Task Manager on the server. It may have been fixed
by now (NT4/UV9.5 here), but we find the major cause of programs here is
a rouge telnet process. If it happens, it'll grab 100% of one cpu - get
two of them and our twin-cpu server starts running in treacle ...
Cheers,
Wol
IME (and I could easily be wrong here), DELETE.FILE doesn't like absolute pathnames in
F-pointers. That may, however, be a hangover from my Prime days.
It will also, most definitely, warn you that this DICT filename does not match
FILENAME, warning you that something is wrong. Just hope any
I've done that.
Call the X-item X_FILENAME, and provided you make the filename reflect
the account it's in (or what it's used for) then that's not a problem.
I *never* assume that a DICT will be unique to one DATA file. That's one
of the strengths of MV :-)
Cheers,
Wol
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I think you mean
LIST FILE WHEN EVAL F16 * 0.9 LT F17
Cheers,
Wol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Witney
Sent: 11 March 2004 12:40
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: RE: EVAL
LIST FILE WHEN EVAL F16 * 0.9 LT F16
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Or go for a new IBM servr running on Power G5.
There was an interesting article on the Inquirer or the Register (can't
remember which) asking whether the purpose of Itanium has been achieved,
and whether it is likely to be ditched in the near future.
The gist of it, basically, was that the
Well, if MS can't do it ...
Don't forget - it was ME that wrote the pt250 emulation that ships with
wIntegrate. And though I say it myself, it's good ... :-) (VMark screwed
it up a bit with improvements :-)
And I moved all our wIntegrate over to pt250 because I couldn't get
vt100 to work ...
My experience is that the standard techniques don't work!
The way I kill rogue processes like this is, on the server, go into task
manager. Right-click the process. Do NOT select kill process, it won't
work. Instead, select the other, attach debugger, option. The process
will promptly do a Dr
Given your stated requirements, the ONLY safe way for you is uvbackup.
This runs within the database, and as such will not have trouble (much)
with people accessing files. Any os-level backup will hiccup on files
the db may have open.
Running UV/NT, for us the problem is so severe that we always
printer be defined as a unix
special
file without setting up a network print queue?
Dana Baron
System Manager
Smugglers' Notch Resort
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Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 7:02 AM
To: U2 Users Discussion
How about UVPE/linux?
Especially if it's initially a proof of concept, that would be a legit
use of UVPE. And while the system might be slow, it'll run on outdated
hardware no problem, so when they go live, the only cost they've got
is the UV licence.
The only thing I would say about the
Not this old chestnut again !!!
Fire up an xterm, or konsole, or whatever you fancy, on the client
desktop. Telnet into the uv server, SET.TERM.TYPE VT100, and off you go.
End of story. *ANY* linux command shell will almost certainly emulate a
vt100 as its default setting. And if you have
When you specify DICT FILENAME, UV treats it internally as if there
existed a VOC entry
0001: F
0002: D_FILENAME
0003: \uv_account\DICT.DICT
There is no reason whatsoever why you shouldn't create an explicit VOC
entry of exactly this form. After all, as far as UV is concerned, the
D_FILENAME
The whole point of using transactions is to ensure data integrity.
Writing across a network is a pretty sure-fire way of inviting integrity
problems.
The only way to guarantee that you don't have problems is to ban mixing
the two.
If you investigate the NFS protocol (which I guess your remote
Do you need to modify a document created by someone else? Or can you
just spit out a Word document from UV?
Some of our report programs generate rtf documents from scratch. It can
be fun getting the format right (we make extensive use of tables to put
stuff in the right place), and Word is not
table from client
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Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:30 AM
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Subject: ODBC problem - biggie and technical
I'm trying to enable odbc access to an account. odbc is working
Actually, iirc, it's even easier than that. Roxio takes over the .iso
extension so double-click the iso, and up will fire Roxio all ready to
burn ... :-)
Cheers,
Wol
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Sent: 24
I would actually try sending
PA @FM QSELECT @FM SSELECT
Dunno whether it would work, but if sending an @FM-delimited list of
commands screws up by giving all the rest of the string to the first
command, maybe making the first command PA (to invoke the paragraph
processor) would achieve exactly
If it's an AMLC ... I'm sure an engineer on (I think)
news:comp.sys.prime could tell us, but I'm guessing it must have been
one of the big boxes. We had AMLCs on our 25/30, But by the time of the
850 an 950 I think they were using ICS boards. So - we got our first
rabbit mid-83? that was post-AMLC
Doesn't an xterm by default emulate vt?
And what are you trying to do? I don't understand the question ...
Cheers,
Wol
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On Behalf Of Jonathan Brock
Sent: 23 February 2004 04:22
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: RE:
+
Wol, that would be awfully long time ago - an exchange rate of 1.20 to the
pound (maybe around 1983ish). For a long time it was at around 1.50 to the
pound ;-)
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Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
Sent: 20 February 2004 09:32
To: U2
Are you backing up just a user-accounts partition, or are you backing up
the UV account itself, too?
We had an issue with backup software (I think it was BackupExec) and
backing up the UV account. If the NT client code is the same as the nix
code (ported from nix) that could be your problem ...
But what if IE is not the default viewer for jpegs or pdfs? (admittedly
this is a home setup, but I've barred IE from accessing the network!).
As I said, I think invoking the document will fire up the default
viewer, but although I know it can be done I'm not certain whether that
is the way or
regardless of their chosen field of endeavor
vince lombardi
_
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On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:45 AM
To: U2 Users
Maybe passing a matrix in parentheses DOES pass by value - it passes the
value of the matrix reference! Which still contains pointers to the
matrix elements ... :-)
With respect to the docu, I suspect it's meaningless when talking about
matrices because it's not talking about what you think it
Except - the most important thing is COURTESY. To OTHER PEOPLE.
I'm amazed I've stayed out of this as long as I have :-)
The problem is that top-posting encourages people to not trim. That
leads to, typically, maybe 90% of the average post being junk that's
been seen before?
Add to that, it is
Check your UV terminfo files ... (and possibly your unix/linux ones
too).
There's almost certainly a setup string in their you need to tweak.
Cheers,
Wol
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On Behalf Of Steve Richmond
Sent: 16 February 2004 20:29
To: u2
Did you run HS.UPDATE.FILEINFO?
Have you put the correct SQL type definitions in fields 8?
Did HS.UPDATE.FILEINFO actually work correctly! THAT'S A BIGGIE!
I've shoved a little article on pickwiki you might want to look at -
multivaluedatabasesuniverseodbcaccess
Cheers,
Wol
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If you type
HELP COMO
at TCL, it'll tell you ...
Or I'll tell you :-) From within your program (or wherever) do an
EXECUTE COMO ON PROGOUTPUT HUSH
This will create a PROGOUTPUT record in the COMO file that you can
then access with the editor or whatever you want.
To turn off the como, just
If it's classed as a trade secret, then IBM will have to prove they
took all reasonable measures to keep it secret. If it was taught to
people on the internals course and those people weren't asked to sign an
NDA, then bang goes its secret status.
And that includes all the people who went on
I'm following the court case. I don't expect there'll be much left of
SCO once the court case explodes in their face. Which might well be a
lot sooner than they expect - the motions for summary dismissal on merit
are likely to start flying soon!
As for is linux unix, well, as the court case has
On the version of Unix we're running (SCO 3.2), you can't even create a
FILESYSTEM over 2Gb - we had to partition our 4Gb drives in two ...
(that dates the system :-)
Cheers,
Wol
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On Behalf Of Logan, David (SST -
Except it's not a strange reason. The whole point of a distributed file
is that any part of the file can be treated as a file in its own right,
so it needs its own dictionary.
And given that MV makes no distinction between data and dict portions at
the structural level (and all that jazz),
But if you're doing it for accounting reasons, that's the convention.
You use parentheses INSTEAD OF as negative sign. It makes it stick out
because on the rhs the parens stands out in a column of its own.
Cheers,
Wol
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Two tricks to speed things up ...
Firstly, would the NO.NULLS keyword speed things up? I'm guessing your
fields can often be blank, and in this case you will have a single huge
record knocking your index for six!
Secondly, would the pause and resume indexing commands work? During the
day, while
Old history now, but as a Pr1mate (as in used, not worked for), I never
learnt (or even MET!) procs until extremely late in the day. Official
support for procs appeared with INFORMATION 8.1, released probably about
1991 just before they went bust :-(
It just WASN'T THERE on any system I ever
Title: RE: Document scan and retrieval (looking for software)
To nitpick - but it catches out a LOT of people - SAMBA
is NOT NOT NOT the appropriate software here. It will NOT do what you
claim.
Samba allows Windows boxes to access a unix server (and
allows that server to join a Windows
This is a bit messy ...
Firstly create an i-descriptor as
follows
0002: FIELD( @ID, ",", 1, 1); FIELD( @ID, ",", 2, 1)+1;
TRANS( @FILENAME, @1:".":@2, 0, "X")
(I think I've got that right...)
What it's doing is adding 1 to the X bit, and doing a trans
to see if the record exists. If I've
nly available on linux samba installs.If someone would like a couple UVBasic programs to "put" and
"get" via smbclient I'd be glad to send them along.
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Message-From: Anthony Youngman
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If you want to use a unix *client* to
for
software)
I
thought smb was simple message block?
I
haven't googled it, just from memory...
George
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February 04, 2004 11:04 AMTo: U2 Users Discussion
ListSubject: RE: Document scan
Title: RE: SELECT NOT WORKING [uv 10 - unix]
I was about to ask if TYPE was indexed? That's also an
obvious one ... if the index has somehow gotten out of sync.
Cheers,
Wol
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George
GallenSent: 02 February 2004 22:08To: 'U2
It was this way on PI as well.
Bear in mind that the-1 syntax was an
"accident" - as originally implemented the search mechanism simply decremented
to zero or the end of the string, and some bright spark realised that if you
started with a negative number then it would always hit the end of
Title: Message
To give you an example of how we used a distributed file
...
We created several "normal" files, called "ENQUIRIES.YY"
where YY was the year. Because our first year was 86, we created a
partfile-definitioni-descriptor of "YY-85". Now, YY *MUST* be a part of
the @ID.Partfile 1
the
magic
word to get existing files into the ODBC arena ?
Thanks
Anthony Dzikiewicz
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Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 5:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ODBC Set Up Universe
And make sure that you don't have
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