Re: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue
I use both AC2 and browser. Once you hit version 6.x you need to systematically downgrade using 6.04 beta, then back to 5.x. YMMV On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 6:15 PM Robert Dillon wrote: > Have you guys successfully down graded firmware on M radios? Do so by > using the normal browser upgrade screen or AC2? > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > > Original message > From: Mitch > Date: 1/25/20 5:43 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Ubiquiti Users Group , Clay Stewart < > cstew...@scsbroadband.com> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue > > Sorry Typo > > XM 6.0.4 signed > > Mitch > On 1/24/2020 12:04 PM, Clay Stewart wrote: > > On over 15 900 APs, new ones and ones in field for years. It seems to have > started at OS 6.17 and then, no matter what OS you try, the APs will drop > all customers sometime multiple times a day, or every other day or so. > Nothing changed and on multiple networks and counties. > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 16:59 Josh Luthman > wrote: > >> Hardware failure it sounds like. If it simply doesn't associate until it >> is rebooted it's either software (which is unlikely if you've tried various >> versions) or hardware. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:56 PM Clay Stewart >> wrote: >> >>> For several weeks now, or longer, random 900 APs drop all customers and >>> have to be rebooted to get them back. Setting WatchDog is NOT a solution, >>> it only has customers interrupted often, and not down till a reboot. >>> >>> It does not seem to matter which OS we use. >>> >>> Has anyone found a solution? >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing > listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue
Wow Matt - 5."5".4! I thought I was behind leaving mine at 5."6".3! I admit even with that I do have to reboot my APs at least once in 30-60 days. So, you're saying thats not the case? It's been so long since using the 5.5.x version I dont recall how it ran in a live environment. On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 5:51 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > I stopped upgrading at 5.5.4. > > The 6.x Branch has a nasty bug where when the AP has been up somewhere > between 30 and 60 days stations won’t attach again if they lose power/are > disconnected unless you reboot the AP. > > On Jan 25, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Mitch wrote: > > Sorry Typo > > XM 6.0.4 signed > > Mitch > On 1/24/2020 12:04 PM, Clay Stewart wrote: > > On over 15 900 APs, new ones and ones in field for years. It seems to have > started at OS 6.17 and then, no matter what OS you try, the APs will drop > all customers sometime multiple times a day, or every other day or so. > Nothing changed and on multiple networks and counties. > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 16:59 Josh Luthman > wrote: > >> Hardware failure it sounds like. If it simply doesn't associate until it >> is rebooted it's either software (which is unlikely if you've tried various >> versions) or hardware. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:56 PM Clay Stewart >> wrote: >> >>> For several weeks now, or longer, random 900 APs drop all customers and >>> have to be rebooted to get them back. Setting WatchDog is NOT a solution, >>> it only has customers interrupted often, and not down till a reboot. >>> >>> It does not seem to matter which OS we use. >>> >>> Has anyone found a solution? >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing > listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubnt_users Digest, Vol 1873, Issue 1
Let us know Clay! On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:47 PM Clay Stewart wrote: > Thanks, Phil, will give it a try. Maybe Swan not using WPA2 between AP and > CPE? > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 1:32 PM Phil Curnutt wrote: > >> I have a couple of 900 APs running on v 6.2.0 running fine, but not until >> I disabled WPA2. If you check the radio log you will find that the with >> WPA2 enabled the stations are forced to re-authorize hourly or daily (can't >> remember which) and occasionally they don't. >> >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:17 AM RickG wrote: >> >>> I forgot to put YMMV ;P >>> I'm truly glad for you Shawn. I saw an huge increase in disconnects & >>> drops from the AP to the CPE. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 7:47 PM Shawn C. Peppers < >>> videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I have tons of isp clients running the latest fw on legacy xm devices >>>> and they work perfectly fine. >>>> >>>> :: // Shawn Peppers >>>> :: // DirectlinkAdmin.com >>>> >>>> On Jan 22, 2020, at 6:25 PM, RickG wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Airmax Radios, especially XMs do NOT like AirOS 6.0+ >>>> I've still got my UBNT 900s running 5.6.3.! >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:05 PM Jerry Head II < >>>> jerryh...@blountbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Definitely a firmware issue. >>>>> >>>>> v6.0.4-sign.31631 (XM >>>>> >>>>> Is the last stable firmware for these radios. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/22/2020 11:00 AM, ubnt_users-requ...@wispa.org wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Send Ubnt_users mailing list submissions to >>>>> ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> ubnt_users-requ...@wispa.org >>>>> >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> ubnt_users-ow...@wispa.org >>>>> >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>> than "Re: Contents of Ubnt_users digest..." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> >>>>>1. 900 disconnect issue (Clay Stewart) >>>>>2. Re: 900 disconnect issue (Josh Luthman) >>>>>3. Re: 900 disconnect issue (Tommy Adams) >>>>>4. Re: 900 disconnect issue (Robert Dillon) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Message: 1 >>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 16:59:42 -0500 >>>>> From: Clay Stewart >>>>> Subject: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue >>>>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>>> >>>>> For several weeks now, or longer, random 900 APs drop all customers and >>>>> have to be rebooted to get them back. Setting WatchDog is NOT a solution, >>>>> it only has customers interrupted often, and not down till a reboot. >>>>> >>>>> It does not seem to matter which OS we use. >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone found a solution? >>>>> -- next part -- >>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> URL: >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/private/ubnt_users/attachments/20200121/c93761ae/attachment-0001.html >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Message: 2 >>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 16:58:48 -0500 >>>>> From: Josh Luthman >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue >>>>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>>> >>>>> Hardware failure it sounds like. If it simply doesn't associate until it >>>>> is rebooted it's either software (which is unlikely if you've tried >>&g
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubnt_users Digest, Vol 1873, Issue 1
I forgot to put YMMV ;P I'm truly glad for you Shawn. I saw an huge increase in disconnects & drops from the AP to the CPE. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 7:47 PM Shawn C. Peppers < videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have tons of isp clients running the latest fw on legacy xm devices and > they work perfectly fine. > > :: // Shawn Peppers > :: // DirectlinkAdmin.com > > On Jan 22, 2020, at 6:25 PM, RickG wrote: > > > Airmax Radios, especially XMs do NOT like AirOS 6.0+ > I've still got my UBNT 900s running 5.6.3.! > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:05 PM Jerry Head II < > jerryh...@blountbroadband.com> wrote: > >> Definitely a firmware issue. >> >> v6.0.4-sign.31631 (XM >> >> Is the last stable firmware for these radios. >> >> On 1/22/2020 11:00 AM, ubnt_users-requ...@wispa.org wrote: >> >> Send Ubnt_users mailing list submissions to >> ubnt_users@wispa.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> ubnt_users-requ...@wispa.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> ubnt_users-ow...@wispa.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Ubnt_users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. 900 disconnect issue (Clay Stewart) >>2. Re: 900 disconnect issue (Josh Luthman) >>3. Re: 900 disconnect issue (Tommy Adams) >>4. Re: 900 disconnect issue (Robert Dillon) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 16:59:42 -0500 >> From: Clay Stewart >> Subject: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group >> Message-ID: >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> For several weeks now, or longer, random 900 APs drop all customers and >> have to be rebooted to get them back. Setting WatchDog is NOT a solution, >> it only has customers interrupted often, and not down till a reboot. >> >> It does not seem to matter which OS we use. >> >> Has anyone found a solution? >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/private/ubnt_users/attachments/20200121/c93761ae/attachment-0001.html >> >> -- >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 16:58:48 -0500 >> From: Josh Luthman >> >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group >> Message-ID: >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hardware failure it sounds like. If it simply doesn't associate until it >> is rebooted it's either software (which is unlikely if you've tried various >> versions) or hardware. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:56 PM Clay Stewart >> >> wrote: >> >> >> For several weeks now, or longer, random 900 APs drop all customers and >> have to be rebooted to get them back. Setting WatchDog is NOT a solution, >> it only has customers interrupted often, and not down till a reboot. >> >> It does not seem to matter which OS we use. >> >> Has anyone found a solution? >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing >> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/private/ubnt_users/attachments/20200121/b8fb559a/attachment-0001.html >> >> -- >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 16:02:46 -0600 >> From: Tommy Adams >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group >> Message-ID: <19d57e8f-02e4-4266-b981-1960068c0...@digitex.net> >> <19d57e8f-02e4-4266-b981-1960068c0...@digitex.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Solution we found is Cambium PMP 900. We had to get rid of all our UBNT 900. >> >> >> >>
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubnt_users Digest, Vol 1873, Issue 1
pa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing > listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/private/ubnt_users/attachments/20200121/799452e2/attachment-0001.html > > -- > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:39:48 -0500 > From: Robert Dillon > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue > To: Ubiquiti Users Group > Message-ID: > > <505df591-58ce-42fc-9753-829fbdc34...@co1nam04ft015.eop-nam04.prod.protection.outlook.com> > > <505df591-58ce-42fc-9753-829fbdc34...@co1nam04ft015.eop-nam04.prod.protection.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > We have this happen all too often also.? And totally agree with the broken > bandaid that the watchdog provides.? We have found that if we replace the bad > radio sometimes once and sometimes twice or more we'll eventually find a new > in-box radio that works without the drops.? Its terrible but that's what it > comes down to.We are looking for a new solution as well.? We only use 900 in > small cell repeater scenarios where no way around the foliage so what Tommy > does with Cambium PMP 900 is too expensive for us for that application.?Sent > from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > Original message From: Clay Stewart > Date: 1/21/20 4:57 > PM (GMT-05:00) To: Ubiquiti Users Group > Subject: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue For > several?weeks now, or longer, random 900 APs drop all customers and have to > be rebooted to get them back. Setting WatchDog is NOT a solution, it only has > customers interrupted?often, and not down till a reboot.It does not seem to > matter which OS we use.?Has anyone found a solution? > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/private/ubnt_users/attachments/20200121/5216d7fb/attachment-0001.html > > -- > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing > listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > End of Ubnt_users Digest, Vol 1873, Issue 1 > *** > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti LBE-5AC
Ya, I guess I didnt go back far enough! On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 8:37 AM Roy wrote: > > > There are similar problems with the AirMax M. I had to downgrade to > 5.6.9 then unlock the radio and go back to 6.x.x. > > On 8/3/2019 8:04 PM, RickG wrote: > > UPDATE: Downgrading to the firmware to 8.5.7 allowed me to input my > > code and get the additional frequencies. > > > > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti LBE-5AC
UPDATE: Downgrading to the firmware to 8.5.7 allowed me to input my code and get the additional frequencies. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:27 AM James Craig wrote: > (I tried to send to the WISPA list, but looks like I need to update my > email settings) > > Rick, > > If you SSH into the unit, could you share the output of: > > cat /etc/board.info | grep fcc > > What firmware are you using? > > Both LBE-5AC-23 and LBE-5AC-GEN2 (updated version) have certification for > UNII-1/2/3, but the non-GEN2 versions would require an unlock code to > enable the Revised UNII Grant. > -- On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 3:19 PM RickG wrote: > James, I have attached the output you requested plus the support file and > a screen capture of the system tab. Please advise that you received this. > Thanks! > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 1:34 PM James Craig via Ubnt_users < > ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote: > >> Rick, >> >> If you SSH into the unit, could you share the output of: >> >> cat /etc/board.info | grep fcc >> >> What firmware are you using? >> >> Both LBE-5AC-23 and LBE-5AC-GEN2 (updated version) have certification for >> UNII-1/2/3, but the non-GEN2 versions would require an unlock code to >> enable the Revised UNII Grant. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:08 AM Roy wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> We use LiteBeam AC Gen 2 and LBE-5AC-23 successfully out to 3 miles. >>> YMMV. For .5 miles and less, we are starting to use Mikrotik 60Ghz >>> >>> Roy >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/29/2019 5:44 AM, Phil Curnutt wrote: >>> >>> The original model needs the unlock code for the UNII, the newer, Gen2, >>> comes activated. They work fine for short shots 3/4 of mile or less: >>> anything longer move to the PowerBeams. The LBE's work much better then >>> the NBE's that have a funky antenna pattern. >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 10:16 PM Roy wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I just checked a LBE-5AC-23 and it has the "revised U-NII question. >>>> Its activated and I think all those channels are selectable. Software is >>>> version 8.5.12 >>>> >>>> Roy >>>> >>>> On 7/28/2019 8:56 PM, RickG wrote: >>>> >>>> I dont get that option on these. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 1:17 PM Mimbres Communications < >>>> mim...@sw-ei.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Any chance you forgot to activate the revised U-NII rules? >>>>> [image: lbe-unii-rules.PNG] >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 10:28 AM RickG wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Anyone here know what's the deal with the LBE-5AC units? I've got >>>>>> several that will not select the UNII bands. I've tried upgrading the >>>>>> firmware. -RickG >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Kurt Albershardt | Mimbres Communications, LLC | 575-342-0042 >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -RickG >>>> >>>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > -- > -RickG > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti LBE-5AC
Thanks guys. UBNT James contacted me for additional info. I'll let you know how it works out! On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:08 AM Roy wrote: > > > We use LiteBeam AC Gen 2 and LBE-5AC-23 successfully out to 3 miles. > YMMV. For .5 miles and less, we are starting to use Mikrotik 60Ghz > > Roy > > > > On 7/29/2019 5:44 AM, Phil Curnutt wrote: > > The original model needs the unlock code for the UNII, the newer, Gen2, > comes activated. They work fine for short shots 3/4 of mile or less: > anything longer move to the PowerBeams. The LBE's work much better then > the NBE's that have a funky antenna pattern. > > Phil > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 10:16 PM Roy wrote: > >> >> >> I just checked a LBE-5AC-23 and it has the "revised U-NII question. Its >> activated and I think all those channels are selectable. Software is >> version 8.5.12 >> >> Roy >> >> On 7/28/2019 8:56 PM, RickG wrote: >> >> I dont get that option on these. >> >> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 1:17 PM Mimbres Communications >> wrote: >> >>> Any chance you forgot to activate the revised U-NII rules? >>> [image: lbe-unii-rules.PNG] >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 10:28 AM RickG wrote: >>> >>>> Anyone here know what's the deal with the LBE-5AC units? I've got >>>> several that will not select the UNII bands. I've tried upgrading the >>>> firmware. -RickG >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Kurt Albershardt | Mimbres Communications, LLC | 575-342-0042 >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti LBE-5AC
You must be right. I'm not a fan, especially now! On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 1:20 PM alex phillips wrote: > I don't think they are FCC approved for it. I remember my guys telling me > something about it. > > Plus, they are weak anyhow, I wont use them anymore. > *Alex Phillips* > CEO and General Manager > RBNS.net > HighSpeedLink.net > *540-908-3993* > > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 12:26 PM RickG wrote: > >> Anyone here know what's the deal with the LBE-5AC units? I've got several >> that will not select the UNII bands. I've tried upgrading the firmware. >> -RickG >> >>> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti LBE-5AC
I dont get that option on these. On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 1:17 PM Mimbres Communications wrote: > Any chance you forgot to activate the revised U-NII rules? > [image: lbe-unii-rules.PNG] > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 10:28 AM RickG wrote: > >> Anyone here know what's the deal with the LBE-5AC units? I've got several >> that will not select the UNII bands. I've tried upgrading the firmware. >> -RickG >> >>> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > -- > > Kurt Albershardt | Mimbres Communications, LLC | 575-342-0042 > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
[Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti LBE-5AC
Anyone here know what's the deal with the LBE-5AC units? I've got several that will not select the UNII bands. I've tried upgrading the firmware. -RickG > ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] GPS antenna
Per UBNT Forums: https://www.balticnetworks.com/mikrotik-cps-antenna-w-sma-connector.html https://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=N000900L005A=0 I've used the Cambium units on UBNT and they work fine. On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 4:40 PM Blair Davis wrote: > Anybody know of a replacement GPS antenna for UBNT 2AC units? > > > -- > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5xHD ethernet port limited to auto negotiation
Same here with DC but like I said the POE was my only fix. I'd love to know why but no time to figure it out - for now :) On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 8:07 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Well I'm trying to stick with DC so that won't cut it here :( > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 7:50 PM RickG >> I have the same issue with a Cambium ePMP 2000 talking to a Netonix >> switch. If I use the Cambium POE all is well! >> >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 4:43 PM Josh Luthman >> wrote: >> >>> I have several sites out in the field with Powerbox Pro and once I >>> forced poe on, it works just fine with af5xHD. >>> >>> In the office, though, I have weird issues where if a cable is plugged >>> into another port (just simply a cable, no other device) it goes from auto >>> (doing gig full) to interface up/down constantly and I can't even get the >>> Mikrotik bridge to see the af5xhd MAC address. >>> >>> Now if I set auto negotiation to 10/100 it links just fine (at 100 full). >>> >>> Looking at the radio interface it doesn't seem that I can set it to gig >>> full. I can't change it from auto negotiation. Am I missing something? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5xHD ethernet port limited to auto negotiation
I have the same issue with a Cambium ePMP 2000 talking to a Netonix switch. If I use the Cambium POE all is well! On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 4:43 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > I have several sites out in the field with Powerbox Pro and once I forced > poe on, it works just fine with af5xHD. > > In the office, though, I have weird issues where if a cable is plugged > into another port (just simply a cable, no other device) it goes from auto > (doing gig full) to interface up/down constantly and I can't even get the > Mikrotik bridge to see the af5xhd MAC address. > > Now if I set auto negotiation to 10/100 it links just fine (at 100 full). > > Looking at the radio interface it doesn't seem that I can set it to gig > full. I can't change it from auto negotiation. Am I missing something? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x won't link up anymore
That too! Glad you found it! On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 1:37 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > My issue was ch0 jumper was toast. I'm guessing the management is 100% > ch0 which means if it doesn't have a good signal, it'll never associate. > Even of ch1 is perfectly fine. > > Replaced both radios, no resolution. Replaced master jumpers, same > signal. Replaced slave jumpers and we no longer have chain imbalance. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 1:34 PM, RickG wrote: > >> I had one do the same exact things several months ago. Replaced the radio >> and all was well. Afterwards, I tried to bench test it and couldnt get >> anything with other radios. >> >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 8:40 PM Josh Luthman >> wrote: >> >>> I have an AF5x link that just went down seemingly out of the blue >>> earlier this afternoon. It's been running for months at 63/75 (maybe even >>> 12-18 months?) and chugging along doing it's job. Now we can't get any >>> association. >>> >>> Both sides see an AP we have at 5190 (the BH runs at 5215). This tells >>> me that the dishes/jumpers are unlikely the issue. >>> >>> We replaced the far radio. Got too dark/windy/rainy so we haven't >>> replaced the master side. I swapped master/slave roles. I changed >>> frequencies and channel sizes all over the place, I'm not seeing any >>> association what so ever. I was running 4.0.3 release and finally tried >>> v4.1.0-beta5.32792 - no change. >>> >>> Any ideas short of replacing the master radio? Any other possibilities >>> or thoughts? >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x won't link up anymore
I had one do the same exact things several months ago. Replaced the radio and all was well. Afterwards, I tried to bench test it and couldnt get anything with other radios. On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 8:40 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > I have an AF5x link that just went down seemingly out of the blue earlier > this afternoon. It's been running for months at 63/75 (maybe even 12-18 > months?) and chugging along doing it's job. Now we can't get any > association. > > Both sides see an AP we have at 5190 (the BH runs at 5215). This tells me > that the dishes/jumpers are unlikely the issue. > > We replaced the far radio. Got too dark/windy/rainy so we haven't replaced > the master side. I swapped master/slave roles. I changed frequencies and > channel sizes all over the place, I'm not seeing any association what so > ever. I was running 4.0.3 release and finally tried v4.1.0-beta5.32792 - no > change. > > Any ideas short of replacing the master radio? Any other possibilities or > thoughts? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti commitment to WISPs
Seth, I read what is available but all the facts are never presented in a lawsuit until the court proceedings. As for WISPs being sued, we live in a litigious society. Lawsuits are a national pastime. The number of lawsuits are astounding and WISPs are not immune. I admit this is only my opinion as I have not gathered any facts to support my statement. On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:59 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 8/13/18 09:41, RickG wrote: > > With respect, we don't know everything about the lawsuit. Also, I'd bet > > if the shoe were on the other foot, another manufacturer would sue a > WISP. > > > I presume you've read the suit to make that claim? > > > https://www.law360.com/articles/1071813/wireless-co-ubiquiti-says-rival-sells-hacking-firmware > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti commitment to WISPs
With respect, we don't know everything about the lawsuit. Also, I'd bet if the shoe were on the other foot, another manufacturer would sue a WISP. On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:47 AM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 8/13/18 7:41 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: > > > > Ben Moore and James Craig. This is my request to Ubiquity to make a > BOLD statement in some way that shows your commitment to the WISP community > and your appreciation to those of us that have stuck by your side through > years of "soon GPS", Elevate, 2-pack CPEs, poor supply chain planning and > many other goofy decisions you have made over the years that have made us > defend out position to stay with UBNT as our Primary Vendor. It is time > for a little appreciation. > > > UBNT is naming WISPs in lawsuits with wild accusations. That's the > statement they're making. > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] EdgePoint and PowerBeam AC
What firmware? On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Clay Stewart wrote: > No vlan, fresh new install, little programmed > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 8:16 PM Shawn C. Peppers < > videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sounds like vlan issues. >> >> :: // Shawn Peppers >> :: // DirectlinkAdmin.com >> >> > On Jul 13, 2018, at 6:56 PM, Clay Stewart >> wrote: >> > >> > Having a Friday 300ft hissy fit. >> > >> > 2 different AC Gen2 PowerBeams, 2 new cables, 2 different 24vdc >> EdgePoint ports (5 and 6), get 1000Mbps connection with tx rx counts, but >> ni layer 2 or 3 connectivity. >> > ___ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Thanks! On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Jon Langeler wrote: > We use both UBNT and Cambium on occasion. X pol is definitely better as > both chains are more balanced and receiving same interference levels. > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > On Jun 1, 2018, at 10:48 PM, RickG wrote: > > Tommy, Do you find X-polarity better than H/V-Pol? > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Tommy Adams wrote: > >> Depends on the distance you are trying to service. Ideally, you want to >> be well above the canopy and use downtilt to blast down on your SM’s. This >> antenna is mounted on a small Rohn 25 and we have seven 5 GHz sectors above >> it. Our target is only ½ mile but we have customers over 1 mile from this >> sector. We put everyone we can on the ePMP at the top of the tower. >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> Tommy Adams >> >> Network Administrator >> >> Digitex.com >> >> >> >> 817.558.6230 Voice >> >> 817.558.1204 Fax >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On >> Behalf Of *Kees H. >> *Sent:* Friday, June 01, 2018 11:01 AM >> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >> >> >> >> I know the fresnel zone is larger on the 900, so I am checking to see >> what the lowest is that you can place them >> >> >> >> *From:* Tommy Adams >> >> *Sent:* Friday, June 01, 2018 8:51 AM >> >> *To:* 'Ubiquiti Users Group' >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >> >> >> >> Mine is only 60 feet up. About 20 feet above the trees. I think it >> would work better up higher with more downtilt, but I am only shooting a >> short ways and am trying to avoid interference. And it works great where >> it is. >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> Tommy Adams >> >> Network Administrator >> >> Digitex.com >> >> >> >> 817.558.6230 Voice >> >> 817.558.1204 Fax >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On >> Behalf Of *Kees H. >> *Sent:* Friday, June 01, 2018 10:49 AM >> *To:* Paul Tackett ; Ubiquiti Users Group < >> ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >> >> >> >> How high AGL are you putting those Cambium APs? >> >> >> >> *From:* Paul Tackett via Ubnt_users >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 5:01 PM >> >> *To:* 'Ubiquiti Users Group' >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >> >> >> >> I believe the perpetrator of that job had OCD. Glad my techs who are >> slobs didn’t perform that mod. >> >> >> >> *Paul Tackett, COO* >> >> 406-284-3174x105 >> >> p...@latmt.com >> >> --- >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >> ] *On Behalf Of *Tommy Adams >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 17:16 >> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >> >> >> >> That is fantastic. You even retained the little plastic cap on the end of >> the antenna. >> >> >> >> >> >> Tommy A. >> >> Digitex.com >> >> >> >> 817.558.6230 V >> >> 817.558.1204 F >> >> >> On May 31, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Tommy Adams wrote: >> >> Did you set your target signal strength? They should automatically back >> off the power. >> >> >> >> >> >> Tommy A. >> >> Digitex.com >> >> >> >> 817.558.6230 V >> >> 817.558.1204 F >> >> >> On May 31, 2018, at 5:35 PM, Paul Tackett via Ubnt_users < >> ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote: >> >> Impressive. We found that if there was LOS at that distance, we had to >> cut the yagi down to a nub as the signal was too hot and performance was >> terrible! >> >> >> >> Paul Tackett, COO >> >> (406)284-3174x105 >> >> p...@latmt.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wi
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Tommy, Do you find X-polarity better than H/V-Pol? On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Tommy Adams wrote: > Depends on the distance you are trying to service. Ideally, you want to > be well above the canopy and use downtilt to blast down on your SM’s. This > antenna is mounted on a small Rohn 25 and we have seven 5 GHz sectors above > it. Our target is only ½ mile but we have customers over 1 mile from this > sector. We put everyone we can on the ePMP at the top of the tower. > > > > > > --- > > Tommy Adams > > Network Administrator > > Digitex.com > > > > 817.558.6230 Voice > > 817.558.1204 Fax > > > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On > Behalf Of *Kees H. > *Sent:* Friday, June 01, 2018 11:01 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > I know the fresnel zone is larger on the 900, so I am checking to see what > the lowest is that you can place them > > > > *From:* Tommy Adams > > *Sent:* Friday, June 01, 2018 8:51 AM > > *To:* 'Ubiquiti Users Group' > > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > Mine is only 60 feet up. About 20 feet above the trees. I think it would > work better up higher with more downtilt, but I am only shooting a short > ways and am trying to avoid interference. And it works great where it is. > > > > > > --- > > Tommy Adams > > Network Administrator > > Digitex.com > > > > 817.558.6230 Voice > > 817.558.1204 Fax > > > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On > Behalf Of *Kees H. > *Sent:* Friday, June 01, 2018 10:49 AM > *To:* Paul Tackett ; Ubiquiti Users Group < > ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > How high AGL are you putting those Cambium APs? > > > > *From:* Paul Tackett via Ubnt_users > > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 5:01 PM > > *To:* 'Ubiquiti Users Group' > > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > I believe the perpetrator of that job had OCD. Glad my techs who are slobs > didn’t perform that mod. > > > > *Paul Tackett, COO* > > 406-284-3174x105 > > p...@latmt.com > > --- > > [image: LAT-Web-Logo-Small] > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Tommy Adams > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 17:16 > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > That is fantastic. You even retained the little plastic cap on the end of > the antenna. > > > > > > Tommy A. > > Digitex.com > > > > 817.558.6230 V > > 817.558.1204 F > > > On May 31, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Tommy Adams wrote: > > Did you set your target signal strength? They should automatically back > off the power. > > > > > > Tommy A. > > Digitex.com > > > > 817.558.6230 V > > 817.558.1204 F > > > On May 31, 2018, at 5:35 PM, Paul Tackett via Ubnt_users < > ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote: > > Impressive. We found that if there was LOS at that distance, we had to cut > the yagi down to a nub as the signal was too hot and performance was > terrible! > > > > Paul Tackett, COO > > (406)284-3174x105 > > p...@latmt.com > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Tommy Adams > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 15:10 > *To:* 'Ubiquiti Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > First picture is from the tower. You can see we are not that high. The > customer pictures are .3 of a mile from the tower and downhill. As you can > see in both pictures there is zero line of sight. You can also see that > these are the worse modem placements being 900 MHz and shooting over a > metal roof. They work beautifully. > > > > > > --- > > Tommy Adams > > Network Administrator > > Digitex.com > > > > 817.558.6230 Voice > > 817.558.1204 Fax > > > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On > Behalf Of *RickG > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 3:19 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > Thanks again Tommy! I'd love to see a picture of how thick the trees a
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Tommy, I truly appreciate the pictures. Do you find x-polarity to work better than h/v-pol? On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Tommy Adams wrote: > First picture is from the tower. You can see we are not that high. The > customer pictures are .3 of a mile from the tower and downhill. As you can > see in both pictures there is zero line of sight. You can also see that > these are the worse modem placements being 900 MHz and shooting over a > metal roof. They work beautifully. > > > > > > --- > > Tommy Adams > > Network Administrator > > Digitex.com > > > > 817.558.6230 Voice > > 817.558.1204 Fax > > > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On > Behalf Of *RickG > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 3:19 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > Thanks again Tommy! I'd love to see a picture of how thick the trees are! > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Tommy Adams wrote: > > Now ours is not loaded up too heavily, only 12 clients. We sell every > speed we offer which is up to 16 meg for home users. Most of the clients > on this tower ore on our 5 or 8 meg package. Looking at the graphs, this > sector is hitting 25 meg frequently, but there is about 60-70 meg of > channel available, we are running in 20 MHz. Prior to this, we could only > sell people our $30-$50 packages and they complained about the speed. I > see our one last UBNT 900 top out at 6-8 meg every night with about the > same number of people on it. We are buying a couple of SM’s a month and > when we get enough for all the customers will do a quick change out of the > tower and customers to the PMP gear. > > > > Overall experience with the PMP 900 is really good. We tried it in 10 MHz > and it worked great then thought why not try 20 MHz and it still did > great. We have a lot of frequency hopping electric meters and gas wells in > our area. I think placement is a big thing too. I would not put this gear > on a water tower next to the major highway. Not saying it would not work, > but the if you can see the horizon, then the frequency can hear the > horizon. We use this gear is a bowl of hills and trees. In fact we did > not even mount it way above the trees. It is only 20 feet above the trees > with down tilt. Our furthest customer through what we consider thick trees > in north Texas is about ½ mile. We do have some customers a little over a > mile away as well that could not get a clean LOS to the same tower. The > gear is a real learning experience and not terribly friendly to work with. > That being said, if a customer calls in and is experience issues, we do not > even ask them to reboot the PMP SM. We start with their router and 95% of > the time this resolves their issue. > > > > > > ------- > > Tommy Adams > > Network Administrator > > Digitex.com > > > > 817.558.6230 Voice > > 817.558.1204 Fax > > > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On > Behalf Of *RickG > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 2:51 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > Thanks Tommy! What speeds are people seeing out there on the Cambium 900s? > I dont trust marketing hype so real word input is very valuable in asking > these types of decisions. > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Tommy Adams wrote: > > All I know is we install PMP450i 900 and we never visit the customer > again. Also, when you think about it, the equipment may cost 5k, but I > would rather have 5 customers bringing in $250/month ($50 package) than the > 5k. Also, it is not uncommon for companies to charge a higher installation > fee or slightly higher rates when using NLOS equipment. The additional > cost must be absorbed by the company or passed on to the consumer. There > are a number of wonderful lease to own deals out there that do not break > the bank. We have used Ascentium Capital in the past for emergency > upgrades to all our wireless backhauls. I know most everyone on here is a > big UBNT fan, it is after all a UBNT forum, but some of their products are > not very good. This is one of them. Talking to them at Wispapolooza last > year, there does not sound like any upgrades are coming for the 900 or > 3.65. We have deployed Cambium PMP gear in both frequencies and are glad > to spend the money. It is a real jump in quality. Now would I deploy > PMP450 in a low end trailer park, not likely. We use UBNT, PMP, ePMP and > even some Mikrotik in our network.
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Paul: "Scalability is what you lose when going UBNT or MT" Agreed! Fortunately, at least in my case, 900 is only needed where the population density is very sparse. I doubt I'd ever see more than 10 subs. Which why spending $2500 is hard to condone. If I had more subs to get in these areas I'd have already gone with Cambium. On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 5:31 PM, Paul Tackett via Ubnt_users < ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote: > We only have 1 PMP450i in 900Mhz and I can parrot what the others have > said. Except maybe never having to go back as we still have the occasional > truck roll for one reason or another. > > > > Probably the only NLOS solution that has been at least somewhat effective. > We have a few Mikrotik 900Mhz sectors and it appears that Metal 9Mhz are no > longer available so I may be in a spot where I’ll need to pick up > additional PMP450i 900Mhz to replace with. > > > > Expensive but far more scalable. Scalability is what you lose when going > UBNT or MT. Good for 18, put 19 and 20 on there, phone starts ringing off > the hook… > > > > Paul Tackett, COO > > (406)284-3174x105 > > p...@latmt.com > > [image: LAT-Web-Logo-Small] > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Tommy Adams > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 14:09 > *To:* 'Ubiquiti Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > Now ours is not loaded up too heavily, only 12 clients. We sell every > speed we offer which is up to 16 meg for home users. Most of the clients > on this tower ore on our 5 or 8 meg package. Looking at the graphs, this > sector is hitting 25 meg frequently, but there is about 60-70 meg of > channel available, we are running in 20 MHz. Prior to this, we could only > sell people our $30-$50 packages and they complained about the speed. I > see our one last UBNT 900 top out at 6-8 meg every night with about the > same number of people on it. We are buying a couple of SM’s a month and > when we get enough for all the customers will do a quick change out of the > tower and customers to the PMP gear. > > > > Overall experience with the PMP 900 is really good. We tried it in 10 MHz > and it worked great then thought why not try 20 MHz and it still did > great. We have a lot of frequency hopping electric meters and gas wells in > our area. I think placement is a big thing too. I would not put this gear > on a water tower next to the major highway. Not saying it would not work, > but the if you can see the horizon, then the frequency can hear the > horizon. We use this gear is a bowl of hills and trees. In fact we did > not even mount it way above the trees. It is only 20 feet above the trees > with down tilt. Our furthest customer through what we consider thick trees > in north Texas is about ½ mile. We do have some customers a little over a > mile away as well that could not get a clean LOS to the same tower. The > gear is a real learning experience and not terribly friendly to work with. > That being said, if a customer calls in and is experience issues, we do not > even ask them to reboot the PMP SM. We start with their router and 95% of > the time this resolves their issue. > > > > > > --- > > Tommy Adams > > Network Administrator > > Digitex.com > > > > 817.558.6230 Voice > > 817.558.1204 Fax > > > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On > Behalf Of *RickG > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 2:51 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > Thanks Tommy! What speeds are people seeing out there on the Cambium 900s? > I dont trust marketing hype so real word input is very valuable in asking > these types of decisions. > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Tommy Adams wrote: > > All I know is we install PMP450i 900 and we never visit the customer > again. Also, when you think about it, the equipment may cost 5k, but I > would rather have 5 customers bringing in $250/month ($50 package) than the > 5k. Also, it is not uncommon for companies to charge a higher installation > fee or slightly higher rates when using NLOS equipment. The additional > cost must be absorbed by the company or passed on to the consumer. There > are a number of wonderful lease to own deals out there that do not break > the bank. We have used Ascentium Capital in the past for emergency > upgrades to all our wireless backhauls. I know most everyone on here is a > big UBNT fan, it is after all a UBNT forum, but some of their products are > not very good. This is one of them. Tal
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Thanks again Tommy! I'd love to see a picture of how thick the trees are! On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Tommy Adams wrote: > Now ours is not loaded up too heavily, only 12 clients. We sell every > speed we offer which is up to 16 meg for home users. Most of the clients > on this tower ore on our 5 or 8 meg package. Looking at the graphs, this > sector is hitting 25 meg frequently, but there is about 60-70 meg of > channel available, we are running in 20 MHz. Prior to this, we could only > sell people our $30-$50 packages and they complained about the speed. I > see our one last UBNT 900 top out at 6-8 meg every night with about the > same number of people on it. We are buying a couple of SM’s a month and > when we get enough for all the customers will do a quick change out of the > tower and customers to the PMP gear. > > > > Overall experience with the PMP 900 is really good. We tried it in 10 MHz > and it worked great then thought why not try 20 MHz and it still did > great. We have a lot of frequency hopping electric meters and gas wells in > our area. I think placement is a big thing too. I would not put this gear > on a water tower next to the major highway. Not saying it would not work, > but the if you can see the horizon, then the frequency can hear the > horizon. We use this gear is a bowl of hills and trees. In fact we did > not even mount it way above the trees. It is only 20 feet above the trees > with down tilt. Our furthest customer through what we consider thick trees > in north Texas is about ½ mile. We do have some customers a little over a > mile away as well that could not get a clean LOS to the same tower. The > gear is a real learning experience and not terribly friendly to work with. > That being said, if a customer calls in and is experience issues, we do not > even ask them to reboot the PMP SM. We start with their router and 95% of > the time this resolves their issue. > > > > > > --- > > Tommy Adams > > Network Administrator > > Digitex.com > > > > 817.558.6230 Voice > > 817.558.1204 Fax > > > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On > Behalf Of *RickG > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 2:51 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > Thanks Tommy! What speeds are people seeing out there on the Cambium 900s? > I dont trust marketing hype so real word input is very valuable in asking > these types of decisions. > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Tommy Adams wrote: > > All I know is we install PMP450i 900 and we never visit the customer > again. Also, when you think about it, the equipment may cost 5k, but I > would rather have 5 customers bringing in $250/month ($50 package) than the > 5k. Also, it is not uncommon for companies to charge a higher installation > fee or slightly higher rates when using NLOS equipment. The additional > cost must be absorbed by the company or passed on to the consumer. There > are a number of wonderful lease to own deals out there that do not break > the bank. We have used Ascentium Capital in the past for emergency > upgrades to all our wireless backhauls. I know most everyone on here is a > big UBNT fan, it is after all a UBNT forum, but some of their products are > not very good. This is one of them. Talking to them at Wispapolooza last > year, there does not sound like any upgrades are coming for the 900 or > 3.65. We have deployed Cambium PMP gear in both frequencies and are glad > to spend the money. It is a real jump in quality. Now would I deploy > PMP450 in a low end trailer park, not likely. We use UBNT, PMP, ePMP and > even some Mikrotik in our network. > > > > Good luck… > > > > > > --- > > Tommy Adams > > Network Administrator > > Digitex.com > > > > 817.558.6230 Voice > > 817.558.1204 Fax > > > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On > Behalf Of *RickG > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 1:42 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > JP, I apologize if you took my comment as a personal offense, it was not > directed at you but rather I was sharing my experience in a moment of > "weakness" :P > > Either way, no need to reply because we've definitely beaten this horse to > death. That said, thanks again! > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:33 PM, J Portman wrote: > > Easy enough to verify, the stock sale was registered with the SEC. > > 5 minutes of research on Google wil
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Blair, "Cash is king". As in the past, hopefully that remains true in the next downturn. Imagine buying things for a dime on the dollar ;P On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:52 PM, Blair Davis wrote: > Us as well... > > Cash is king. > > -- > > On 5/31/2018 3:34 PM, Kees H. wrote: > > Same here, makes it easier to make it through the downturns in the economy > > *From:* RickG > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 11:04 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company. > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman wrote: > >> Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. :) SB >> able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. >> >> $1*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY expensive >> lease). >> >> 10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. Acceptable, >> but not 'juicy'. :) >> >> 20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per month >> (per sector). Now we're talking. >> >> We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if we can >> beat the interference from CPS Energy. >> >> Get better lease terms and profit goes up. >> >> Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as well. >> $199 seems reasonable if no other service is available. >> Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to drive >> ARPU up). >> >> Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for sector >> with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW) >> Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers. >> And the beat goes on. >> >> $350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd make >> that deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. >> >> But that's just me. :) >> >> YMMV. >> >> JP >> >> *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote* >> > CAMBIUM: >> > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor >> $600 = TOTAL: $1 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 >> customers @ $50/month = $500/month >> > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months >> > >> > UBNT: >> > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + Labor >> $600 = TOTAL: $3600 >> > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month >> > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months >> > >> > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS >> subs is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! :) >> > >> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman wrote: >> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come >>> talk about cost. :) >>> > >>> > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 >>> clients. >>> > >>> > JP >>> > >>> > *On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote* >>> > >>> > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>>> > > >>>> > > Josh Luthman >>>> > > Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> > > 1100 Wayne St >>>> > > Suite 1337 >>>> > > Troy, OH 45373 >>>> > > >>>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart < >>>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >>>>> foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill >>>>> which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard >>>>> press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is >>>>> Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as >>>>> opinions will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >>>>> > > >>>&
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Yes your right Kees! Historically the economy has always cycled and we're on borrowed time for a downturn and when it does a lot of people in debt are going to feel the pain. I've made it a point over my career to study and understand economics. I recommend zero debt but if you do debt no more than you can payoff in a month. Also, dont make business decisions based on today's economy. In other words, have a plan for a downturn. YMMV On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Kees H. wrote: > Same here, makes it easier to make it through the downturns in the economy > > *From:* RickG > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 11:04 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company. > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman wrote: > >> Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. :) SB >> able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. >> >> $1*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY expensive >> lease). >> >> 10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. Acceptable, >> but not 'juicy'. :) >> >> 20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per month >> (per sector). Now we're talking. >> >> We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if we can >> beat the interference from CPS Energy. >> >> Get better lease terms and profit goes up. >> >> Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as well. >> $199 seems reasonable if no other service is available. >> Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to drive >> ARPU up). >> >> Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for sector >> with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW) >> Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers. >> And the beat goes on. >> >> $350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd make >> that deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. >> >> But that's just me. :) >> >> YMMV. >> >> JP >> >> *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote* >> > CAMBIUM: >> > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor >> $600 = TOTAL: $1 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 >> customers @ $50/month = $500/month >> > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months >> > >> > UBNT: >> > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + Labor >> $600 = TOTAL: $3600 >> > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month >> > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months >> > >> > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS >> subs is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! :) >> > >> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman wrote: >> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come >>> talk about cost. :) >>> > >>> > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 >>> clients. >>> > >>> > JP >>> > >>> > *On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote* >>> > >>> > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>>> > > >>>> > > Josh Luthman >>>> > > Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> > > 1100 Wayne St >>>> > > Suite 1337 >>>> > > Troy, OH 45373 >>>> > > >>>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart < >>>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >>>>> foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill >>>>> which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard >>>>> press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is >>>>> Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Get recommendat
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Thanks Tommy! What speeds are people seeing out there on the Cambium 900s? I dont trust marketing hype so real word input is very valuable in asking these types of decisions. On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Tommy Adams wrote: > All I know is we install PMP450i 900 and we never visit the customer > again. Also, when you think about it, the equipment may cost 5k, but I > would rather have 5 customers bringing in $250/month ($50 package) than the > 5k. Also, it is not uncommon for companies to charge a higher installation > fee or slightly higher rates when using NLOS equipment. The additional > cost must be absorbed by the company or passed on to the consumer. There > are a number of wonderful lease to own deals out there that do not break > the bank. We have used Ascentium Capital in the past for emergency > upgrades to all our wireless backhauls. I know most everyone on here is a > big UBNT fan, it is after all a UBNT forum, but some of their products are > not very good. This is one of them. Talking to them at Wispapolooza last > year, there does not sound like any upgrades are coming for the 900 or > 3.65. We have deployed Cambium PMP gear in both frequencies and are glad > to spend the money. It is a real jump in quality. Now would I deploy > PMP450 in a low end trailer park, not likely. We use UBNT, PMP, ePMP and > even some Mikrotik in our network. > > > > Good luck… > > > > > > --- > > Tommy Adams > > Network Administrator > > Digitex.com > > > > 817.558.6230 Voice > > 817.558.1204 Fax > > > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On > Behalf Of *RickG > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 1:42 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > JP, I apologize if you took my comment as a personal offense, it was not > directed at you but rather I was sharing my experience in a moment of > "weakness" :P > > Either way, no need to reply because we've definitely beaten this horse to > death. That said, thanks again! > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:33 PM, J Portman wrote: > > Easy enough to verify, the stock sale was registered with the SEC. > > 5 minutes of research on Google will give you a pretty good idea of who I > am, what I own, etc. > > And, I think this is the last time I will ever respond to you, since I > don't fancy being called a prevaricator. > > Please, please, please, ignore all my advice. > > > > JP > > *On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:26:18 -0400, RickG wrote* > > > JP, With all due respect, I know and have known many "millionaires" - > until you see their balance sheet and realize they owe more than they own. > With that said, if you've done better than they, then congratulations are > in order. I do appreciate your input, so thanks for that! > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:11 PM, J Portman wrote: > > > > > > > > I became a multimillionaire through the judicious use of debt. > > > > Went from 0 to $2.1 million a year in 4.5 years, from 0 to 11000 dialup > customers. > > Could not have done it with cash. :) > > > > I have Jim Hollis (fispa) to thank for opening my eyes to cash flow > based financing. > > > > Nothing major gets built without leverage. > > > > YMMV, > > JP > > > > *On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:04:59 -0400, RickG wrote* > > > > > Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company. > > > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. :) > SB able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. > > > > > > $1*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY expensive > lease). > > > > > > 10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. > Acceptable, but not 'juicy'. :) > > > > > > 20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per > month (per sector). Now we're talking. > > > > > > We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if we > can beat the interference from CPS Energy. > > > > > > Get better lease terms and profit goes up. > > > > > > Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as > well. $199 seems reasonable if no other service is available. > > > Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to drive > ARPU up). > > > > > > Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
JP, I apologize if you took my comment as a personal offense, it was not directed at you but rather I was sharing my experience in a moment of "weakness" :P Either way, no need to reply because we've definitely beaten this horse to death. That said, thanks again! On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:33 PM, J Portman wrote: > Easy enough to verify, the stock sale was registered with the SEC. > 5 minutes of research on Google will give you a pretty good idea of who I > am, what I own, etc. > And, I think this is the last time I will ever respond to you, since I > don't fancy being called a prevaricator. > Please, please, please, ignore all my advice. > > JP > *On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:26:18 -0400, RickG wrote* > > JP, With all due respect, I know and have known many "millionaires" - > until you see their balance sheet and realize they owe more than they own. > With that said, if you've done better than they, then congratulations are > in order. I do appreciate your input, so thanks for that! > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:11 PM, J Portman wrote: > > >> >> >> > >> > I became a multimillionaire through the judicious use of debt. >> > >> > Went from 0 to $2.1 million a year in 4.5 years, from 0 to 11000 dialup >> customers. >> > Could not have done it with cash. :) >> > >> > I have Jim Hollis (fispa) to thank for opening my eyes to cash flow >> based financing. >> > >> > Nothing major gets built without leverage. >> > >> > YMMV, >> > JP >> > >> > *On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:04:59 -0400, RickG wrote* >> > >> > > Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company. >> > > >> > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman wrote: >> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> > > Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. >>> :) SB able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. >>> > > >>> > > $1*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY >>> expensive lease). >>> > > >>> > > 10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. >>> Acceptable, but not 'juicy'. :) >>> > > >>> > > 20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per >>> month (per sector). Now we're talking. >>> > > >>> > > We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if >>> we can beat the interference from CPS Energy. >>> > > >>> > > Get better lease terms and profit goes up. >>> > > >>> > > Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as >>> well. $199 seems reasonable if no other service is available. >>> > > Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to >>> drive ARPU up). >>> > > >>> > > Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for >>> sector with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW) >>> > > Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers. >>> > > >>> > > And the beat goes on. >>> > > >>> > > $350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd >>> make that deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. >>> > > >>> > > But that's just me. :) >>> > > >>> > > YMMV. >>> > > >>> > > JP >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote* > CAMBIUM: >>> > > > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + >>> Labor $600 = TOTAL: $1 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 >>> customers @ $50/month = $500/month >>> > > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months >>> > > > >>> > > > UBNT: >>> > > > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + >>> Labor $600 = TOTAL: $3600 >>> > > > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month >>> > > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months >>> > > > >>> > > > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on >>> LOS subs is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! >>> :) >>> > > > >>> > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman >>> wrote: >>> > > >
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Oh, I understand your comment now. No, never said weak, just frugal. I thought I made this point clear but I'll say it again, I'd rather spend $2500 towards a better ROI, that's all. If you make the numbers work out for you needs then I'm happy for you. I simply prefer higher returns on my investments. Thanks again. On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:13 PM, J Portman wrote: > I'm just saying: > > "If your company is so weak financially that it cannot stand a $2500 loss > occasionally, then you should pursue insurance". > > Then again, if you cannot scrape $2500 together in the first place, you > are in the wrong business. > > JP > *On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:03:19 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote* > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018, 2:02 PM RickG wrote: > > >> >> >> > Insurance? Would you turn in a claim for $2500 AP? Sounds like a reason >> to get your rates raised or your account cancelled. Do you have better luck >> with that? >> > >> > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:39 AM, J Portman wrote: >> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> > This is why the lord made insurance. ;) >>> > >>> > JP >>> > >>> > *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:24:52 -0400, RickG wrote* > Perhaps but my >>> customers are not willing to pay ten times for the service! And while I've >>> done everything possible to mitigate lightning and power surges one blown >>> 450i will ruin a budget! >>> > > >>> > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Travis Allen < >>> tra...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote: >>> > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > Cambium 900 450 is ten times better than ubiquiti! >>>> > > >>>> > > Sent from my iPhone >>>> > > >>>> > > On May 30, 2018, at 17:12, RickG wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > >>>> > > The best price I can find is well over $2500. That's 10 times the >>>> cost of a UBNT Rocket 900. >>>> > > >>>> > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Rory Conaway < >>>> r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: >>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>> > > [UTF-8?][UTF-8?]It’s not too bad. We have one up, might >>>>> put up a second one. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Rory >>>>> > > >>>>> > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >>>>> *On Behalf Of *RickG >>>>> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2018 8:58 PM >>>>> > > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >>>>> > > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Josh Luthman >>>>> > > Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> > > 1100 Wayne St >>>>> > > Suite 1337 >>>>> > > Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart < >>>>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>> > > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >>>>> foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill >>>>> which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard >>>>> press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is >>>>> Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Get recommendations from someone wh
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
JP, With all due respect, I know and have known many "millionaires" - until you see their balance sheet and realize they owe more than they own. With that said, if you've done better than they, then congratulations are in order. I do appreciate your input, so thanks for that! On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:11 PM, J Portman wrote: > I became a multimillionaire through the judicious use of debt. > Went from 0 to $2.1 million a year in 4.5 years, from 0 to 11000 dialup > customers. > Could not have done it with cash. :) > I have Jim Hollis (fispa) to thank for opening my eyes to cash flow based > financing. > > Nothing major gets built without leverage. > > YMMV, > JP > > *On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:04:59 -0400, RickG wrote* > > Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company. > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman wrote: > > >> >> >> > >> > Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. :) >> SB able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. >> > >> > $1*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY expensive >> lease). >> > >> > 10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. Acceptable, >> but not 'juicy'. :) >> > >> > 20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per >> month (per sector). Now we're talking. >> > >> > We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if we >> can beat the interference from CPS Energy. >> > >> > Get better lease terms and profit goes up. >> > >> > Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as well. >> $199 seems reasonable if no other service is available. >> > Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to drive >> ARPU up). >> > >> > Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for >> sector with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW) >> > Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers. >> > >> > And the beat goes on. >> > >> > $350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd make >> that deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. >> > >> > But that's just me. :) >> > >> > YMMV. >> > >> > JP >> > >> > >> > *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote* > CAMBIUM: >> > > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor >> $600 = TOTAL: $1 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 >> customers @ $50/month = $500/month >> > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months >> > > >> > > UBNT: >> > > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + >> Labor $600 = TOTAL: $3600 >> > > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month >> > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months >> > > >> > > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS >> subs is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! :) >> > > >> > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman wrote: >> > > >>> >>> >>> > > >>> > > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come >>> talk about cost. :) >>> > > >>> > > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 >>> clients. >>> > > >>> > > JP >>> > > >>> > > *On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote* >>> > > >>> > >>> > > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >>> > > > >>> > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> > > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Josh Luthman >>>> > > > Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> > > > 1100 Wayne St >>>> > > > Suite 1337 >>>> > > > Troy, OH 45373 >>>> > > > >>>> > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart < >>>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> > > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > > What to expect
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
It's a problem I'm very familiar with ;) On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:34 PM, J Portman wrote: > Having more installs than we can handle is a _good_ problem. :) > > YMMV, > JP > On Thu, 31 May 2018 13:12:46 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote > > >$350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow > > > > Where are you seeing 2 year ROI? With 5 customers you're breaking > > even, that's like 2 days of installs. With 20 customers you're more > > than profitable. > > > > This is exactly how we got started building a profitable business (this > > idea actually came from Travis Johnson). These days we basically > > get free money from the credit union via prime rate loan, it's > > something like $125 per $20k? > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:08 PM, RickG wrote: > > > > > JP, > > > > > > Respectively, I'm not totally disagreeing with you but it's an > interesting > > > discussion! > > > > > > Sure, typically less than a 2 year payback is considered fair by many > but > > > my point is that I can get a faster ROI on UBNT and near immediate > payback > > > on LOS customers. There are only so many hours a day so I seriously > > > consider where I spend my resources for the best ROI. I do totally > agree > > > with you that you probably have a better chance of keeping customers > should > > > any serious competition come into the area. I also agree that you may > be > > > able to get UBNT no-go customers. On that note, I'd love to hear how > that > > > point is going for you! > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:38 AM, J Portman wrote: > > > > > >> So, less than two years payback on 10 subs. Without borrowing a dime. > > >> Now, jump it up to real world numbers, 20 subs or more. > > >> Now, finance the equipment with the extra cash flow you now have. > > >> > > >> Many, many companies are happy with 10 year payback. 20 months is > pretty > > >> good. Sure, you're used to 'disruptive' numbers (and so are we). > > >> > > >> But we dropped 100K on Telrad to service about 100 customers. > > >> Not the best deal I ever made, but $6900/month sure does service a > 100K > > >> note with LOTS left over. :) > > >> > > >> Plus, with the better equipment, you might actually stand a chance of > > >> keeping those customers. > > >> > > >> We dropped UBNT 900 years ago. Just too slow. > > >> > > >> Cambium is a whole 'nother ball game. I have dozens (if not over a > > >> hundred) no go site surveys that a 450 Cambium might be able to > service. > > >> I will be looking into them. > > >> > > >> Just a thought. > > >> > > >> JP > > >> > > >> *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote* > > >> > CAMBIUM: > > >> > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor > > >> $600 = TOTAL: $1 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 > > >> customers @ $50/month = $500/month > > >> > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months > > >> > > > >> > UBNT: > > >> > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + > Labor > > >> $600 = TOTAL: $3600 > > >> > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month > > >> > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months > > >> > > > >> > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS > > >> subs is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not > LOS! :) > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman > wrote: > > >> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then > come > > >>> talk about cost. :) > > >>> > > > >>> > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 > > >>> clients. > > >>> > > > >>> > JP > > >>> > > > >>> > *On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote* > > >>> > > > >>> > > Ca
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Josh, You need to purchase the equipment. Obviously, if your leasing you may not have any outlay other than labor. I'm a fan of Travis Johnson's but you've got it be very careful with debt. Being debt free, I dont have to worry about servicing that debt and can lower my customer plans to $9.99/month if I want to :) On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >$350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow > > Where are you seeing 2 year ROI? With 5 customers you're breaking even, > that's like 2 days of installs. With 20 customers you're more than > profitable. > > This is exactly how we got started building a profitable business (this > idea actually came from Travis Johnson). These days we basically get free > money from the credit union via prime rate loan, it's something like $125 > per $20k? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:08 PM, RickG wrote: > >> JP, >> >> Respectively, I'm not totally disagreeing with you but it's an >> interesting discussion! >> >> Sure, typically less than a 2 year payback is considered fair by many but >> my point is that I can get a faster ROI on UBNT and near immediate payback >> on LOS customers. There are only so many hours a day so I seriously >> consider where I spend my resources for the best ROI. I do totally agree >> with you that you probably have a better chance of keeping customers should >> any serious competition come into the area. I also agree that you may be >> able to get UBNT no-go customers. On that note, I'd love to hear how that >> point is going for you! >> >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:38 AM, J Portman wrote: >> >>> So, less than two years payback on 10 subs. Without borrowing a dime. >>> Now, jump it up to real world numbers, 20 subs or more. >>> Now, finance the equipment with the extra cash flow you now have. >>> >>> Many, many companies are happy with 10 year payback. 20 months is pretty >>> good. Sure, you're used to 'disruptive' numbers (and so are we). >>> >>> But we dropped 100K on Telrad to service about 100 customers. >>> Not the best deal I ever made, but $6900/month sure does service a 100K >>> note with LOTS left over. :) >>> >>> Plus, with the better equipment, you might actually stand a chance of >>> keeping those customers. >>> >>> We dropped UBNT 900 years ago. Just too slow. >>> >>> Cambium is a whole 'nother ball game. I have dozens (if not over a >>> hundred) no go site surveys that a 450 Cambium might be able to service. >>> I will be looking into them. >>> >>> Just a thought. >>> >>> JP >>> >>> *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote* >>> > CAMBIUM: >>> > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor >>> $600 = TOTAL: $1 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 >>> customers @ $50/month = $500/month >>> > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months >>> > >>> > UBNT: >>> > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + >>> Labor $600 = TOTAL: $3600 >>> > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month >>> > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months >>> > >>> > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS >>> subs is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! :) >>> > >>> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman wrote: >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come >>>> talk about cost. :) >>>> > >>>> > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 >>>> clients. >>>> > >>>> > JP >>>> > >>>> > *On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote* >>>> > >>>> > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >>>> > > >>>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Josh Luthman >>>>> > > Office: 937-55
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
David, I agree with your points which is why I jumped on this discussion. Rather than answer your individual questions I can tell you that basically I do nothing for my 900 subs - it's "take it or leave it". However, I'm focusing my resources towards LOS customers where the better ROI is and letting the NON-LOS go to satellite. That said, I'm all ears on the Cambium but the question is: Does it really fix all the issues you mention? Thanks! On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 7:29 AM, David Jones wrote: > Rick, > > I believe that most of us have been there where quality takes a back seat > to cost. However there is much more cost that comes with going cheap over > quality. > > What about support calls for slow speed? > What about truck rolls for slow speed? > What about calls for netflix, hulu, youtube, twitch, ect. not working or > buffering? Everyone knows the Internet is for TV replacement.--- Sadly this > is becoming less and less sarcastic every day. > What about the lost customers who get fed up with your slow service and > complain to their neighbors? > What do you do if you get more than 15 people in a 10 mile radius > interested in the service? > What do you do when a customer wants to pay you $80 for more than 5mbps > service to stream more than one device? > What about the time explaining that they can't get faster service like > their friend that is on your service down the road? > > All these problems and costs are already covered with the 450i > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:39 PM, J Portman wrote: > >> This is why the lord made insurance. ;) >> >> JP >> *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:24:52 -0400, RickG wrote* >> > Perhaps but my customers are not willing to pay ten times for the >> service! And while I've done everything possible to mitigate lightning and >> power surges one blown 450i will ruin a budget! >> > >> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Travis Allen < >> tra...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote: >> > >>> >>> >>> > Cambium 900 450 is ten times better than ubiquiti! >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone >>> > >>> > On May 30, 2018, at 17:12, RickG wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> > The best price I can find is well over $2500. That's 10 times the cost >>> of a UBNT Rocket 900. >>> > >>> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Rory Conaway >>> wrote: >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > [UTF-8?]It’s not too bad. We have one up, might put up a second >>>> one. >>>> > >>>> > Rory >>>> > >>>> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On >>>> Behalf Of *RickG >>>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2018 8:58 PM >>>> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>>> > >>>> > Josh Luthman >>>> > Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> > 1100 Wayne St >>>> > Suite 1337 >>>> > Troy, OH 45373 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart < >>>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >>>> foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill >>>> which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard >>>> press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is >>>> Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as opinions >>>> will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >>>> customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is >
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company. On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman wrote: > Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. :) SB > able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. > > $1*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY expensive > lease). > > 10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. Acceptable, > but not 'juicy'. :) > > 20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per month > (per sector). Now we're talking. > > We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if we can > beat the interference from CPS Energy. > > Get better lease terms and profit goes up. > > Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as well. > $199 seems reasonable if no other service is available. > Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to drive > ARPU up). > > Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for sector > with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW) > Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers. > And the beat goes on. > > $350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd make > that deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. > > But that's just me. :) > > YMMV. > > JP > > *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote* > > CAMBIUM: > > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor $600 > = TOTAL: $1 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 customers @ > $50/month = $500/month > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months > > > > UBNT: > > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + Labor > $600 = TOTAL: $3600 > > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months > > > > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS subs > is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! :) > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman wrote: > > >> >> >> > >> > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come >> talk about cost. :) >> > >> > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 clients. >> > >> > JP >> > >> > *On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote* >> > >> > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >> > > >> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> > > >>> >>> >>> > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>> > > >>> > > Josh Luthman >>> > > Office: 937-552-2340 >>> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> > > 1100 Wayne St >>> > > Suite 1337 >>> > > Troy, OH 45373 >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart < >>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>> > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >>>> foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill >>>> which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard >>>> press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is >>>> Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>>> > > >>>> > > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as >>>> opinions will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >>>> > > >>>> > > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >>>> customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is >>>> enough time to recover investment and make something. >>>> > > >>>> > > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, >>>> not even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector >>>> shielding which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. >>>> > > >>>> > > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market >>>> where possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. >>>> Hell, we still have a few Alvarians collecting money! >>>> > > >>>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart < >>&
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Insurance? Would you turn in a claim for $2500 AP? Sounds like a reason to get your rates raised or your account cancelled. Do you have better luck with that? On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:39 AM, J Portman wrote: > This is why the lord made insurance. ;) > > JP > *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:24:52 -0400, RickG wrote* > > Perhaps but my customers are not willing to pay ten times for the > service! And while I've done everything possible to mitigate lightning and > power surges one blown 450i will ruin a budget! > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Travis Allen > wrote: > > >> >> >> > Cambium 900 450 is ten times better than ubiquiti! >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On May 30, 2018, at 17:12, RickG wrote: >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> > The best price I can find is well over $2500. That's 10 times the cost >> of a UBNT Rocket 900. >> > >> > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Rory Conaway >> wrote: >> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> > [UTF-8?]It’s not too bad. We have one up, might put up a second >>> one. >>> > >>> > Rory >>> > >>> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On >>> Behalf Of *RickG >>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2018 8:58 PM >>> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >>> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >>> > >>> > >>> > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>> > >>> > Josh Luthman >>> > Office: 937-552-2340 >>> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> > 1100 Wayne St >>> > Suite 1337 >>> > Troy, OH 45373 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> > >>> > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >>> foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill >>> which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard >>> press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is >>> Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as opinions >>> will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >>> customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is >>> enough time to recover investment and make something. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, not >>> even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector shielding >>> which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market where >>> possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. Hell, we >>> still have a few Alvarians collecting money! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart < >>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> > >>> > You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it work in >>> foliage areas. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions < >>> r...@thpi.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> > >>> > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life >>> experience input. >>> > Do they cut through heavy pine trees? >>> > What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? >>> > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? >>> > I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one mile >>> away from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees about 80 to >>> 100 feet tall. Any suggestions? >>> > Thank you in advance for your reply. >
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
JP, Respectively, I'm not totally disagreeing with you but it's an interesting discussion! Sure, typically less than a 2 year payback is considered fair by many but my point is that I can get a faster ROI on UBNT and near immediate payback on LOS customers. There are only so many hours a day so I seriously consider where I spend my resources for the best ROI. I do totally agree with you that you probably have a better chance of keeping customers should any serious competition come into the area. I also agree that you may be able to get UBNT no-go customers. On that note, I'd love to hear how that point is going for you! On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:38 AM, J Portman wrote: > So, less than two years payback on 10 subs. Without borrowing a dime. > Now, jump it up to real world numbers, 20 subs or more. > Now, finance the equipment with the extra cash flow you now have. > > Many, many companies are happy with 10 year payback. 20 months is pretty > good. Sure, you're used to 'disruptive' numbers (and so are we). > > But we dropped 100K on Telrad to service about 100 customers. > Not the best deal I ever made, but $6900/month sure does service a 100K > note with LOTS left over. :) > > Plus, with the better equipment, you might actually stand a chance of > keeping those customers. > > We dropped UBNT 900 years ago. Just too slow. > > Cambium is a whole 'nother ball game. I have dozens (if not over a > hundred) no go site surveys that a 450 Cambium might be able to service. > I will be looking into them. > > Just a thought. > > JP > > *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote* > > CAMBIUM: > > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor $600 > = TOTAL: $1 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 customers @ > $50/month = $500/month > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months > > > > UBNT: > > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + Labor > $600 = TOTAL: $3600 > > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months > > > > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS subs > is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! :) > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman wrote: > > >> >> >> > >> > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come >> talk about cost. :) >> > >> > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 clients. >> > >> > JP >> > >> > *On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote* >> > >> > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >> > > >> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> > > >>> >>> >>> > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>> > > >>> > > Josh Luthman >>> > > Office: 937-552-2340 >>> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> > > 1100 Wayne St >>> > > Suite 1337 >>> > > Troy, OH 45373 >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart < >>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>> > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >>>> foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill >>>> which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard >>>> press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is >>>> Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>>> > > >>>> > > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as >>>> opinions will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >>>> > > >>>> > > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >>>> customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is >>>> enough time to recover investment and make something. >>>> > > >>>> > > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, >>>> not even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector >>>> shielding which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. >>>> > > >>>> > > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market >>>> where possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
CAMBIUM: Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor $600 = TOTAL: $1 (not including bandwidth & support) Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months UBNT: Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + Labor $600 = TOTAL: $3600 Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS subs is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! :) On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman wrote: > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come talk > about cost. :) > > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 clients. > > JP > *On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote* > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > > >> >> >> > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >> > >> > Josh Luthman >> > Office: 937-552-2340 >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> > 1100 Wayne St >> > Suite 1337 >> > Troy, OH 45373 >> > >> > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart >> wrote: >> > >>> >>> >>> > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >>> foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill >>> which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard >>> press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is >>> Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>> > >>> > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as opinions >>> will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >>> > >>> > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >>> customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is >>> enough time to recover investment and make something. >>> > >>> > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, not >>> even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector shielding >>> which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. >>> > >>> > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market where >>> possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. Hell, we >>> still have a few Alvarians collecting money! >>> > >>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart < >>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> > You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it work in >>>> foliage areas. >>>> > >>>> > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions < >>>> r...@thpi.net> wrote: >>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life >>>>> experience input. >>>>> > >>>>> > Do they cut through heavy pine trees? >>>>> > What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? >>>>> > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? >>>>> > I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one >>>>> mile away from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees about >>>>> 80 >>>>> to 100 feet tall. Any suggestions? >>>>> > >>>>> > Thank you in advance for your reply. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> *Ralf > Gulf Wireless Inc. > * >>>>> > ___ >>>>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >>> >>> > ___ >>> > Ubnt_users mailing list >>> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> > >> >> >> > ___ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -RickG > > > Joe Portman > Alamo Broadband Inc. > www.alamobroadband.com > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
I truly appreciate everyone's input and I'll consider it again. Thanks! On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:33 PM, David Jones wrote: > Well... really depends on what you want. You want cheap do ubnt 900. you > want quality and speed go for 450i. > > 450i has the ability to sync. you won't self interfere. This is huge if > you plan on having more than one AP in a 15 mile radius. > > Right now I have a 450i that replaced a ubnt 900. the ubnt unit was puking > after having only 20 clients on it. first i tried adding another ubnt 900 > and setting both to 10mhz... HA bad idea. Decided to go for the 450i and am > surprised at how much better it is. > > Top speed on the ubnt was just as Clay said 4-10mbps... sometimes peaks at > 14mbps. > > the 450i clients are similar in cost as the rocket 900's with Yaggis. But > man do they perform better. speed test on a client with -77 RSSI is > 26mbps/6mbps > -70 RSSI is 49mbps/14mbps > -64 RSSI is 78mbps/22mbps > > This is set with a 80/20 download to upload split. you can change it by a > single percent from 15-85 > It really is quite amazing and worth the money. > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Travis Allen > wrote: > >> Cambium 900 450 is ten times better than ubiquiti! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 30, 2018, at 17:12, RickG wrote: >> >> The best price I can find is well over $2500. That's 10 times the cost of >> a UBNT Rocket 900. >> >> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Rory Conaway >> wrote: >> >>> It’s not too bad. We have one up, might put up a second one. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On >>> Behalf Of *RickG >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2018 8:58 PM >>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >>> >>> >>> >>> Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>> Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart >>> wrote: >>> >>> What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in foliage >>> and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill which >>> makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard press to >>> deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is Terrain, >>> Terrain Terrain... and height. >>> >>> >>> >>> Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as opinions >>> will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >>> customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is >>> enough time to recover investment and make something. >>> >>> >>> >>> I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, not >>> even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector shielding >>> which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. >>> >>> >>> >>> We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market where >>> possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. Hell, we >>> still have a few Alvarians collecting money! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart < >>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>> >>> You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it work in >>> foliage areas. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions < >>> r...@thpi.net> wrote: >>> >>> I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life >>> experience input. >>> >>> Do they cut through heavy pine trees? >>> What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? >>> Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? >>> >>> I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one mile >>> away from the tower. The distance is through heavy p
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Perhaps but my customers are not willing to pay ten times for the service! And while I've done everything possible to mitigate lightning and power surges one blown 450i will ruin a budget! On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Travis Allen wrote: > Cambium 900 450 is ten times better than ubiquiti! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 30, 2018, at 17:12, RickG wrote: > > The best price I can find is well over $2500. That's 10 times the cost of > a UBNT Rocket 900. > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Rory Conaway > wrote: > >> It’s not too bad. We have one up, might put up a second one. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On >> Behalf Of *RickG >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2018 8:58 PM >> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz >> >> >> >> Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >> Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart >> wrote: >> >> What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in foliage >> and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill which >> makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard press to >> deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is Terrain, >> Terrain Terrain... and height. >> >> >> >> Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as opinions >> will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >> >> >> >> If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >> customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is >> enough time to recover investment and make something. >> >> >> >> I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, not >> even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector shielding >> which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. >> >> >> >> We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market where >> possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. Hell, we >> still have a few Alvarians collecting money! >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart >> wrote: >> >> You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it work in >> foliage areas. >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions < >> r...@thpi.net> wrote: >> >> I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life >> experience input. >> >> Do they cut through heavy pine trees? >> What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? >> Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? >> >> I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one mile >> away from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees about 80 to >> 100 feet tall. Any suggestions? >> >> Thank you in advance for your reply. >> >> >> *Ralf Gulf Wireless Inc.* >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> >> _______ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -RickG >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > -- > -RickG > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
The best price I can find is well over $2500. That's 10 times the cost of a UBNT Rocket 900. On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > It’s not too bad. We have one up, might put up a second one. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org *On > Behalf Of *RickG > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2018 8:58 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz > > > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart > wrote: > > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in foliage > and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill which > makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard press to > deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is Terrain, > Terrain Terrain... and height. > > > > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as opinions will > always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. > > > > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have customers > that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is enough time > to recover investment and make something. > > > > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, not even > a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector shielding which > costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. > > > > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market where > possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. Hell, we > still have a few Alvarians collecting money! > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart > wrote: > > You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it work in > foliage areas. > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions < > r...@thpi.net> wrote: > > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life experience > input. > > Do they cut through heavy pine trees? > What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? > > I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one mile away > from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees about 80 to 100 > feet tall. Any suggestions? > > Thank you in advance for your reply. > > > *Ralf Gulf Wireless Inc.* > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > > -- > > -RickG > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart > wrote: > >> What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in foliage >> and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill which >> makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard press to >> deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is Terrain, >> Terrain Terrain... and height. >> >> Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as opinions >> will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >> >> If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >> customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is >> enough time to recover investment and make something. >> >> I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, not >> even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector shielding >> which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. >> >> We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market where >> possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. Hell, we >> still have a few Alvarians collecting money! >> >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart > > wrote: >> >>> You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it work in >>> foliage areas. >>> >>> On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions < >>> r...@thpi.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life >>>> experience input. >>>> >>>> Do they cut through heavy pine trees? >>>> What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? >>>> Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? >>>> >>>> I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one mile >>>> away from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees about 80 to >>>> 100 feet tall. Any suggestions? >>>> >>>> Thank you in advance for your reply. >>>> >>>> >>>> *Ralf Gulf Wireless Inc. * >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
900 MHz hates pine trees - especially the close up ones! As for Ubiquiti's product, I have a bunch out there and am somewhat satisfies overall. I've seen anything from a few megs to over 30 megs as long as you dont expect it to cut through a heavy forest (less is more in this case). Use Rockets with Yagis, not the locos. 1 miles isnt bad but I'm concerned about your foliage density and the fact it's pine needles! On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions < r...@thpi.net> wrote: > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life experience > input. > > Do they cut through heavy pine trees? > What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? > > I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one mile away > from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees about 80 to 100 > feet tall. Any suggestions? > > Thank you in advance for your reply. > > > *Ralf Gulf Wireless Inc. * > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Aiming AirFiber 5u 13mi link
Same here! On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Joey Craig <gwrra...@gmail.com> wrote: > We replaced our 5ghz rocket with 30db antennas backup link with the > airfiber 5x with 30db antennas converted x-kit and were never able to get > them higher than -74 rssi. Did better with the rocket. Only changing out > equipment to get more throughput. Airlink stars it should be -53 with that > setup, just could not make it happen. > > Switched the antennas out for the 34db airfiber units and had great > success at -32. Had to turn down the power on the radio. > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 3:14 PM Tyler Fulginiti <ty...@peakenetbroadband.com> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> >> We have read through tons of documents based on how to aim and align >> these radios , we have set the frequencies outside of the DFS range and are >> using HDD at 10MHz channel. We have verified the LOS a couple different >> ways (WISPtools RF Planner, Google maps etc.) >> >> >> >> Outside of configuration settings being incorrect the only thing we think >> it could be is setting of the elevation correctly on these devices have >> been hard to find a good cheaper way to do that. >> >> >> >> Are there any tips to getting this shot to work ? >> >> >> Tyler Fulginiti >> Network Administrator >> Cell- 301-643-1176 >> www.PeakeNetBroadband.com <http://www.peakenetbroadband.com/> >> 300 Charles St, La Plata MD 20646 >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/PeakeNet/> <https://twitter.com/GetPeakeNet> >> <https://www.instagram.com/peakenetbroadband/> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEBkBo-i60eaeDbsF6T0UvA> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/11134680/> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airrouter
Are those user-friendly via smart-phone? I've had 80 year old women who admit they know nothing set up their google wifi. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Shawn C. Peppers < videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hap Lite AC > > :: // Shawn Peppers > :: // DirectlinkAdmin.com > > On Apr 12, 2018, at 7:31 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Google WiFi Mesh points (3-pack). > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 9:15 AM, Clay Stewart <cstew...@scsbroadband.com> > wrote: > >> Since AirRouters are gone, and the new cubes are too poor in coverage and >> you need an APP on cell phone to program them, for those who have been >> using them, what are you going to for replacements that are as good as the >> HP model AirRouter, and has that price point? >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > -- > -RickG > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airrouter
Google WiFi Mesh points (3-pack). On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 9:15 AM, Clay Stewart <cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: > Since AirRouters are gone, and the new cubes are too poor in coverage and > you need an APP on cell phone to program them, for those who have been > using them, what are you going to for replacements that are as good as the > HP model AirRouter, and has that price point? > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] CDP
Yup! Funny how everyone tries to serve it up but the big guys ;) On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > Mikrotik was doing it before Ubnt even existed... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 1:25 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ya, I'm impressed Ubiquiti added CDP. Try asking Cisco if they'll add >> UBNT Discovery, lol ;) >> >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Shawn C. Peppers < >> videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Its not a default ubnt discovery protocol so i can understand why they >>> turn it off by default. Better to make sure your not blasting device info >>> out on the network by default. >>> >>> :: // Shawn Peppers >>> :: // DirectlinkAdmin.com >>> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote: >>> >>> I just realized today that CDP is tuned off by default on all UBNT AC >>> devices. That means that MikroTik Neighbor List does not show up a single >>> AC device. Other than the loss of this functionality what other purpose >>> does the CDP do in the network. I know it can be rather chatty as well. >>> Pside and Down side to turning it on? >>> >>> >>> >>> *Steve Barnes* >>> >>> Wireless Operations Manager >>> >>> *New Lisbon Broadband* >>> >>> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>* >>> >>> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>* >>> >>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] CDP
Ya, I'm impressed Ubiquiti added CDP. Try asking Cisco if they'll add UBNT Discovery, lol ;) On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Shawn C. Peppers < videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Its not a default ubnt discovery protocol so i can understand why they > turn it off by default. Better to make sure your not blasting device info > out on the network by default. > > :: // Shawn Peppers > :: // DirectlinkAdmin.com > > On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote: > > I just realized today that CDP is tuned off by default on all UBNT AC > devices. That means that MikroTik Neighbor List does not show up a single > AC device. Other than the loss of this functionality what other purpose > does the CDP do in the network. I know it can be rather chatty as well. > Pside and Down side to turning it on? > > > > *Steve Barnes* > > Wireless Operations Manager > > *New Lisbon Broadband* > > *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>* > > *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>* > > 765-584-2288 ext:1101 > > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > _______ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x chain imbalance
I love ARC panels. But for dishes, it's hard to pass up the nice Rocket mounts. UBNT dishes are linear too. Do the ARC perform better? How do you mount the Rocket? On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > Arc I think. > > They're linear. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mar 17, 2018 7:25 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> RD-30? Did you modify it to S45? >> >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 8:29 AM, Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >>> Two footers >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Mar 17, 2018 12:21 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I've seen that and assumed interference. I've dealt with it by moving >>>> things around (PITA)! What antenna is on your radio? >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> For a majority of the time I get something like -58 on both chains. >>>>> Occasionally, the signal will dip down on one or both chains. We've >>>>> replaced the radios and jumpers. At this point in time I've got a 14db >>>>> chain imbalance since the morning and through seemingly random times these >>>>> last couple weeks. >>>>> >>>>> Is interference a possibility for these radios coming back with a >>>>> weaker signal? Ch0 is the weaker one (which I believe is hpol) if that >>>>> matters. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -RickG >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x chain imbalance
RD-30? Did you modify it to S45? On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 8:29 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > Two footers > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mar 17, 2018 12:21 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I've seen that and assumed interference. I've dealt with it by moving >> things around (PITA)! What antenna is on your radio? >> >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >>> For a majority of the time I get something like -58 on both chains. >>> Occasionally, the signal will dip down on one or both chains. We've >>> replaced the radios and jumpers. At this point in time I've got a 14db >>> chain imbalance since the morning and through seemingly random times these >>> last couple weeks. >>> >>> Is interference a possibility for these radios coming back with a weaker >>> signal? Ch0 is the weaker one (which I believe is hpol) if that matters. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x chain imbalance
I've seen that and assumed interference. I've dealt with it by moving things around (PITA)! What antenna is on your radio? On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > For a majority of the time I get something like -58 on both chains. > Occasionally, the signal will dip down on one or both chains. We've > replaced the radios and jumpers. At this point in time I've got a 14db > chain imbalance since the morning and through seemingly random times these > last couple weeks. > > Is interference a possibility for these radios coming back with a weaker > signal? Ch0 is the weaker one (which I believe is hpol) if that matters. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] best reliable firmware for m clients?
Ya, 5.6.6 "if" you're doing the "alt-upgrade". "If" you're doing the Prism upgrade, the latest (8.5.1) running well. YMMV On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 5:24 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > 566 is all I'll do. Makes it easier to ahem upgrade > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mar 10, 2018 4:17 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> > wrote: > >> >> We had quite a few on 5.6.3 but as we're moving to the AC platform we >> have quite a few now on 6.0.4 >> I know 6.0.4 has trouble with aircontrol discovery. >> Whats the most current *reliable* firmware without any issues? >> What are you running? :) >> Thanks. >> >> It's a cold and rainy weekend here in Alabama and a good time to play in >> aircontrol... >> >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Looking for a network consultant at WISPA
+1 On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:26 AM, alex phillips <highspeedl...@gmail.com> wrote: > I suggest you reach out to Dennis Burges at LinkTechs. They will have a > booth in the show hall > > *Alex Phillips* > CEO and General Manager > RBNS.net > HighSpeedLink.net > *540-908-3993* > Member WISPA.org > #Rev18 > > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:21 AM, James Wilson <ja...@ridgecomms.com> wrote: > >> We're a small WISP that has outgrown our network design competency so >> we're looking for some design and configuration help. >> >> We're switching to Ubiquiti routers and are planning on using UNMS and >> UCRM. >> >> I'd like to meet up with someone here at WISPA. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -James >> >> RidgeComms >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x packet loss
Darn, was hoping for some news that might apply here but I'm not running OSPF (yet). Glad you found the issue and thanks for the update! On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Kristian Hoffmann <kh...@fire2wire.com> wrote: > For the archives... > > The issue turned out to be an old PtP radio that was decommissioned, but > not removed from the tower. The ethernet interface of the radio would > start flapping during certain times of the day. That interface was > connected to a router on an interface still configured for OSPF. Every > time the interface flapped, it would trigged a topology change. The > frequency of the topology changes appeared to be causing sub-second bursts > of packet loss that occurred every 30 seconds. We found it by turning on > OSPF debug logging and tallying the number of topology changes by > originator ID. The one at the top of the list was our culprit. > > hth, > > -Kristian > > On Fri, 2018-02-23 at 03:23 -0500, RickG wrote: > > +1 on the darned surge protectors! > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > wrote: > > Why do you need a loopback test when the capacity graph says the same > thing in real time? > > I would definitely start by doing a ping between radios and see if it's > the wireless link versus ethernet/ports/etc. Last time I saw this, it was > caused by a surge suppressor making the link go down/up super fast (I would > get about 1 packet lost per 5 minutes). > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Kristian Hoffmann <kh...@fire2wire.com> > wrote: > > I wish these had a loopback test, because that would be an easy way to > find out. The wireless capacity during the events is a nice straight line, > so there's no indication that it's a wireless problem, but that doesn't > rule it out either. > > I'll run some tests pinging the radio itself at the same time, and see if > there's loss to the radio as well. > > Generally, OSPF is running over these links, but I've disabled the OSPF > instance and have the same results. > > -Kristian > > On Thu, 2018-02-22 at 08:18 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Definitely through the wireless link? Not including the Ethernet? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Feb 22, 2018 3:19 AM, "Blair Davis" <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote: > > What routing protocols are you using across those links? > > -- > > > On 2/22/2018 1:54 AM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > This is going to sound crazy, but here we go... > > > > Has anyone seen packet loss across an AF5x link that occurred exactly > > every 30 seconds? I have a couple of links, on completely different > > towers, that drop packets every 30 seconds. I can observe it using the > > MikroTik traffic generator, or a fast ping (size=1500 interval=.05). > > Even though they do it on a 30 second interval, it's not at the same > > time (intervals are not synchronized). They're not bridged together in > > any way, and even do it with no customer traffic on them whatsoever. > > > > I've tried with and without flow control, every wireless setting, > > with/without management vlan, firmware 4.0 and 4.0.3, etc. As they're > > connected to RB3011's, I even disabled the MikroTik LCD, as apparently > > that's a thing. It's a shot in the dark, but... anyone? > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Kristian > > ___ > > Ubnt_users mailing list > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- > West Michigan Wireless ISP > Allegan, Michigan 49010 > 269-686-8648 > > A Division of: > Camp Communication Services, INC > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing > listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > -- > -RickG > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing > listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x packet loss
+1 on the darned surge protectors! On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > Why do you need a loopback test when the capacity graph says the same > thing in real time? > > I would definitely start by doing a ping between radios and see if it's > the wireless link versus ethernet/ports/etc. Last time I saw this, it was > caused by a surge suppressor making the link go down/up super fast (I would > get about 1 packet lost per 5 minutes). > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Kristian Hoffmann <kh...@fire2wire.com> > wrote: > >> I wish these had a loopback test, because that would be an easy way to >> find out. The wireless capacity during the events is a nice straight line, >> so there's no indication that it's a wireless problem, but that doesn't >> rule it out either. >> >> I'll run some tests pinging the radio itself at the same time, and see if >> there's loss to the radio as well. >> >> Generally, OSPF is running over these links, but I've disabled the OSPF >> instance and have the same results. >> >> -Kristian >> >> On Thu, 2018-02-22 at 08:18 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >> Definitely through the wireless link? Not including the Ethernet? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Feb 22, 2018 3:19 AM, "Blair Davis" <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote: >> >> What routing protocols are you using across those links? >> >> -- >> >> >> On 2/22/2018 1:54 AM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > This is going to sound crazy, but here we go... >> > >> > Has anyone seen packet loss across an AF5x link that occurred exactly >> > every 30 seconds? I have a couple of links, on completely different >> > towers, that drop packets every 30 seconds. I can observe it using the >> > MikroTik traffic generator, or a fast ping (size=1500 interval=.05). >> > Even though they do it on a 30 second interval, it's not at the same >> > time (intervals are not synchronized). They're not bridged together in >> > any way, and even do it with no customer traffic on them whatsoever. >> > >> > I've tried with and without flow control, every wireless setting, >> > with/without management vlan, firmware 4.0 and 4.0.3, etc. As they're >> > connected to RB3011's, I even disabled the MikroTik LCD, as apparently >> > that's a thing. It's a shot in the dark, but... anyone? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > -Kristian >> > ___ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> -- >> West Michigan Wireless ISP >> Allegan, Michigan 49010 >> 269-686-8648 >> >> A Division of: >> Camp Communication Services, INC >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing >> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF24 & Pause frames. Was: MTU
Well, my experience has been that it doesn't seem to matter, at least from what I can tell. You'd think a fiber port with full gig would overrun the radios however I've got the switches full so the load is distributed out fairly evenly. I'll start chasing other things. Thanks! On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Brough Turner <bro...@netblazr.com> wrote: > Rick, > > We're not completely consistent there. :( > The only place where flow control is critical is when you have an Ethernet > port that can overrun the actual speed of the link. For us, that only > happens with ports driving radios. > Some of our guys turn on Flow control on all switch ports. I have never > seen a problem so I don't insist one way or the other except that radio > ports must have Flow Control enabled. > > Thanks, > Brough > > Brough Turner > netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband! > Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough > netBlazr Inc. <http://www.netblazr.com/> | Google+ > <https://plus.google.com/102447512447094746687/posts?hl=en> | Twitter > <https://twitter.com/#%21/brough> | LinkedIn > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/broughturner> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/brough.turner> | Blog > <http://blogs.broughturner.com/> | Personal website > <http://broughturner.com/> > > > > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:11 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> " Whenever you have an Ethernet link connected to a wireless bridge that >> can pass less than the full Ethernet speed, e.g. a 1 Gbps Ethernet >> connected to an AF24, you need flow control" >> >> Brough, Do you turn flow control on for only the port connected to the >> higher speed Ethernet port or do you turn it on for all ports on that >> switch regardless of what's connected? >> >> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Brough Turner <bro...@netblazr.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Chris, >>> >>> There is a known problem with AF24s generating a storm of pause frames >>> under some (unknown?) circumstances. This screws up any switch. Since >>> release 1.4.7, Netonix has software that will disable flow control if it >>> receives such a storm of pause frames. >>> >>> In August 2017, we upgraded 123 Netonix switches to release 1.4.7 >>> firmware and re-enabled flow control. Since then we've had less than a >>> dozen occasions when flow control has been automatically disabled on a >>> Netonix port, all associated with AF24 radios. In each case we've >>> re-enabled flow control and everything has been fine. I don't see a >>> pattern yet. >>> >>> *Flow control:* Whenever you have an Ethernet link connected to a >>> wireless bridge that can pass less than the full Ethernet speed, e.g. a 1 >>> Gbps Ethernet connected to an AF24, you need flow control, i.e. you need >>> Ethernet pause frames so the switch doesn't over run the radio. Without >>> flow control, you will have packet loss when the link is carrying >>> significant traffic. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Brough >>> >>> Brough Turner >>> netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband! >>> Mobile: 617-285-0433 <(617)%20285-0433> Skype: brough >>> netBlazr Inc. <http://www.netblazr.com/> | Google+ >>> <https://plus.google.com/102447512447094746687/posts?hl=en> | Twitter >>> <https://twitter.com/#%21/brough> | LinkedIn >>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/broughturner> | Facebook >>> <http://www.facebook.com/brough.turner> | Blog >>> <http://blogs.broughturner.com/> | Personal website >>> <http://broughturner.com/> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann < >>> ch...@scsalaska.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Switches that have air fibers attached to them…. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis >>>> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jon Langeler >>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:35 PM >>>> >>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Are you disabling pause everywhere? Or just Airfiber? >>>> >>>> Jon Langeler >>>> >>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalas
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Networks stock sinks after disclosure of SEC subpoenas
By low, sell high! On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Roy <r.engehau...@gmail.com> wrote: > In case you missed it > > https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquiti-networks-stock- > sinks-after-disclosure-of-sec-subpoenas-2018-02-20 > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
Ya, I was talking about flow control. Sorry to mix the conversation but arent they related? On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> wrote: > Disabling pause frames is a switch wide setting under configuration. > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *RickG > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 6:29 PM > > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU > > > > I've heard that too! Would love a conscientious here :) > > > > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:17 PM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > > I thought it was the entire collision domain? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Feb 20, 2018 10:17 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wait...on the switch (1 or all ports?) or on the Airfiber itself? I turn > it off only the Airfiber = no more errors. So far, I haven't determined the > need for flow control on my switches yet. (Which is why I'm asking ;) > > > > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> > wrote: > > Switches that have air fibers attached to them…. > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Jon Langeler > *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:35 PM > > > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU > > > > Are you disabling pause everywhere? Or just Airfiber? > > Jon Langeler > > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > > > On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> > wrote: > > Have you tried disabling Pause Frames on the Netonix switch? We’ve had an > issues with Airfibers and that feature on a few sites. > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org > <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes > *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU > > > > Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol. Just can figure it out. > > > > At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local > tower2 and get 45-50 Meg. (10Mhz channel) > > > > Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg. (AF5x link 250M > capacity Only 50-100M used). > > > Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core > due to traffic. > > > > But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night. > During the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps. So has to be > buffer, retry, MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it. Ping times stay > pretty stable. AMQ and AMC really good on this AP, 90%+. > > > > Giving some serious thought to Preseem. > > > > *Steve Barnes* > > Wireless Operations Manager > > *New Lisbon Broadband* > > *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>* > > *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>* > > 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288> > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org > <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Chris J. Ruschmann > *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU > > > > Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the > performance of your site in some nice easy to read graphs? > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org > <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes > *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] MTU > > > > I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet. Most towers have > a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and > Rockets or Prism for AP’s. Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account > for. Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted. > > > > The MTU settings are as follows: > > MikroTik MTU: 1500 L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled > > Netonix MTU: 1528 Both > > AF5x Up to 9600 Auto Flow Disabled > > Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled > > Prism MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled &
Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
Wait...on the switch (1 or all ports?) or on the Airfiber itself? I turn it off only the Airfiber = no more errors. So far, I haven't determined the need for flow control on my switches yet. (Which is why I'm asking ;) On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> wrote: > Switches that have air fibers attached to them…. > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Jon Langeler > *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:35 PM > > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU > > > > Are you disabling pause everywhere? Or just Airfiber? > > Jon Langeler > > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > > > On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> > wrote: > > Have you tried disabling Pause Frames on the Netonix switch? We’ve had an > issues with Airfibers and that feature on a few sites. > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org > <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes > *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU > > > > Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol. Just can figure it out. > > > > At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local > tower2 and get 45-50 Meg. (10Mhz channel) > > > > Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg. (AF5x link 250M > capacity Only 50-100M used). > > > Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core > due to traffic. > > > > But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night. > During the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps. So has to be > buffer, retry, MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it. Ping times stay > pretty stable. AMQ and AMC really good on this AP, 90%+. > > > > Giving some serious thought to Preseem. > > > > *Steve Barnes* > > Wireless Operations Manager > > *New Lisbon Broadband* > > *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>* > > *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>* > > 765-584-2288 ext:1101 > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org > <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Chris J. Ruschmann > *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU > > > > Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the > performance of your site in some nice easy to read graphs? > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org > <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes > *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] MTU > > > > I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet. Most towers have > a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and > Rockets or Prism for AP’s. Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account > for. Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted. > > > > The MTU settings are as follows: > > MikroTik MTU: 1500 L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled > > Netonix MTU: 1528 Both > > AF5x Up to 9600 Auto Flow Disabled > > Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled > > Prism MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled > > > > In your experience should any of these be adjusted? > > > > *Steve Barnes* > > Wireless Operations Manager > > *New Lisbon Broadband* > > *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>* > > *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>* > > 765-584-2288 ext:1101 > > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF24 & Pause frames. Was: MTU
; >> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU >> >> >> >> Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the >> performance of your site in some nice easy to read graphs? >> >> >> >> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org >> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes >> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM >> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] MTU >> >> >> >> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet. Most towers have >> a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and >> Rockets or Prism for AP’s. Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account >> for. Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted. >> >> >> >> The MTU settings are as follows: >> >> MikroTik MTU: 1500 L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled >> >> Netonix MTU: 1528 Both >> >> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto Flow Disabled >> >> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled >> >> Prism MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled >> >> >> >> In your experience should any of these be adjusted? >> >> >> >> *Steve Barnes* >> >> Wireless Operations Manager >> >> *New Lisbon Broadband* >> >> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>* >> >> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>* >> >> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
Travis, I appreciate the input and cant speak for Steve but I've been running a CCR for years. Currently it's a CCR1036 being fed with a 2gig fiber circuit with peak traffic of 700-800 megs. LOL, I'm starting to think it's the CCR! On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Travis Allen <tra...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote: > Guys, > We have had a very similar problem recently with non Cloud Core mikrotik > routers. Nothing seemed wrong, but the router capacity to process packets > was maxed out even though the CPU showed only around 70-80% max. After > replacing the router with a CCR, everything was much better. I recommend > upgrading the router to a CCR and see what happens. > > > Travis Allen, President > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions > totalhighspeed.com > 417-851-1107 x 501 > > -- > *From: *"RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Sent: *Monday, February 19, 2018 4:22:28 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU > > I've got the same issue. I cant identify exactly when it started, just > crept up over time. > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote: > >> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet. Most towers have >> a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and >> Rockets or Prism for AP’s. Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account >> for. Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted. >> >> >> >> The MTU settings are as follows: >> >> MikroTik MTU: 1500 L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled >> >> Netonix MTU: 1528 Both >> >> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto Flow Disabled >> >> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled >> >> Prism MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled >> >> >> >> In your experience should any of these be adjusted? >> >> >> >> *Steve Barnes* >> >> Wireless Operations Manager >> >> *New Lisbon Broadband* >> >> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>* >> >> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>* >> >> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 >> >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > -- > -RickG > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
My symptoms exactly Steve. I'm starting to wonder if it's a UBNT thing. My Cambium sector does not show those issues although to be fair I do have a few UBNT towers that run great. IDK! On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote: > Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol. Just can figure it out. > > > > At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local > tower2 and get 45-50 Meg. (10Mhz channel) > > > > Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg. (AF5x link 250M > capacity Only 50-100M used). > > > Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core > due to traffic. > > > > But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night. > During the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps. So has to be > buffer, retry, MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it. Ping times stay > pretty stable. AMQ and AMC really good on this AP, 90%+. > > > > Giving some serious thought to Preseem. > > > > *Steve Barnes* > > Wireless Operations Manager > > *New Lisbon Broadband* > > *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>* > > *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>* > > 765-584-2288 ext:1101 > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Chris J. Ruschmann > *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU > > > > Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the > performance of your site in some nice easy to read graphs? > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org > <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes > *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] MTU > > > > I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet. Most towers have > a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and > Rockets or Prism for AP’s. Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account > for. Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted. > > > > The MTU settings are as follows: > > MikroTik MTU: 1500 L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled > > Netonix MTU: 1528 Both > > AF5x Up to 9600 Auto Flow Disabled > > Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled > > Prism MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled > > > > In your experience should any of these be adjusted? > > > > *Steve Barnes* > > Wireless Operations Manager > > *New Lisbon Broadband* > > *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>* > > *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>* > > 765-584-2288 ext:1101 > > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
I've got the same issue. I cant identify exactly when it started, just crept up over time. On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote: > I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet. Most towers have > a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and > Rockets or Prism for AP’s. Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account > for. Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted. > > > > The MTU settings are as follows: > > MikroTik MTU: 1500 L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled > > Netonix MTU: 1528 Both > > AF5x Up to 9600 Auto Flow Disabled > > Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled > > Prism MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled > > > > In your experience should any of these be adjusted? > > > > *Steve Barnes* > > Wireless Operations Manager > > *New Lisbon Broadband* > > *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>* > > *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>* > > 765-584-2288 ext:1101 > > > > _______ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x minimum distance to lab test ?
Just a few days but yes, the link timer stay was accurate. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > Did you leave them run for a week or so? Did the link timer stay on par > with the uptime? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 4:07 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I put 1db rubber ducky antennas on mine and just set them several feel >> apart in my office. >> >> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >> > wrote: >> >>> UBNT-Gary says 50 meters - https://community.ubnt.com/t >>> 5/airFiber/AF5X-23dB-Dish-45-minimum-distance/td-p/1758759 >>> >>> Does anyone else have any input? I want to take two radios that had >>> chain/jumper problems and let them run for a while. In the office (25 feet >>> antennas sitting on the ground) they lose association after hours/days. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> >> _______ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
After trying 6.x.x on several of my 2.4 GHz with poor performance, I gave up ans went all the way back to 5.6.2. Much better! On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote: > We also found that upgrading clients to 6.14 on 2GHz band killed channel > 2464 in 10 MHz width. We have had sectors on that channel for years and the > other day we upgraded a bunch of sector clients to 6.14 and on 2 different > sectors the clients did not come back online. After messing with it. We > finally changed channel and they come back. Finally had to set those > sector to 2462 MHz since 2464 would not work. > > > > *Steve Barnes* > > Wireless Operations Manager > > *New Lisbon Broadband* > > *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>* > > *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>* > > 765-584-2288 ext:1101 > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *James Craig via Ubnt_users > *Sent:* Thursday, January 25, 2018 3:11 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem > > > > What freq was the AP (and channel width) set to, Forbes? > > > > Please keep in mind that the XM units operate under a different DFS grant > VS XW and AC radios. > > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> > wrote: > > 6.13 or 6.14. Might be a legacy upgrade thing. > > > -Original Message- > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > On Behalf Of Roy > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:48 AM > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem > > > > Actually they can. It depends on what OS you used when you activated > DFS. I have a number of M5s running in that range > > > On 1/25/2018 8:58 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > > The M radios don't support 5585-5655GHz. AC radios do. > > > > Rory > > > > -Original Message- > > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy > > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:29 PM > > To: Ubiquiti Users Group > > Subject: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem > > > > Did I miss a memo, I upgraded a Prism 5AC Gen2 to firmware 8.50 and the > > 6 radios with 6.14XM Loco and Nanobridges dropped offline and no longer > worked on any UNII frequency. I had to move the radio down to a clogged > non-UNII spectrum channel? > > > > Forbes Mercy > > Washington Broadband, Inc. > > ___ > > Ubnt_users mailing list > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ > > Ubnt_users mailing list > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubnt_users Digest, Vol 1753, Issue 2
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x bad signal problems
True. I'm now dealing with a bunch of my 900MHz towers doing the same thing :( On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > Really weird that both pig tails have the exact same level of problems, > though. Both chains dropped from 60s to 80s to 95+ and the link obviously > disappeared. The signals reported on the AirOS interface, I mean. > > Spectrum scan still shows -50 to nearby APs and -60 on the BH frequency. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:52 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I've had a flurry of bad pigtails lately :( >> >> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >>> This came back up...exact same issue. Definitely not ice today! >>> >>> Spectrum scan sees upper and lower bands just fine. Both sides see each >>> other at -60ish. It attempts to register and fail >>> >>> Is there any possibility besides bad jumper/radio? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2018 2:29 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Well I brought the power down to -60/61 to be nice! Also higher >>>> modulation... >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < >>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> sun must have melted the ice off, i have had some links with ice that >>>>> get affected and some that didn't, very strange sometimes, just have high >>>>> link margins is about the only thing you can do. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Right on the money. Back up to 61 now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 12, 2018 11:40 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well I thought exactly that at first but I do have radomes and >>>>>>> another north/south link that has 0 change. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Kurt Fankhauser < >>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you have a backhaul covered in ice i can almost guarantee that >>>>>>>> the ice is causing your signal being down, seen this a couple winters >>>>>>>> ago >>>>>>>> on an AF5X link with 2 foot dishes, your pretty much screwed until the >>>>>>>> ice >>>>>>>> melts off.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Had a wind/storm and everything come through, wind picked up at >>>>>>>>> 4am and 4:30-5 we went from 61 db to 70 and a bit later down to 80 db. >>>>>>>>> Everything is covered in ice. BH is 12.5 miles north/south. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have another BH 12.5 miles north/south (in line
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x bad signal problems
I've had a flurry of bad pigtails lately :( On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > This came back up...exact same issue. Definitely not ice today! > > Spectrum scan sees upper and lower bands just fine. Both sides see each > other at -60ish. It attempts to register and fail > > Is there any possibility besides bad jumper/radio? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Jan 12, 2018 2:29 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > >> Well I brought the power down to -60/61 to be nice! Also higher >> modulation... >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < >> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> sun must have melted the ice off, i have had some links with ice that >>> get affected and some that didn't, very strange sometimes, just have high >>> link margins is about the only thing you can do. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Right on the money. Back up to 61 now. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Jan 12, 2018 11:40 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well I thought exactly that at first but I do have radomes and another >>>>> north/south link that has 0 change. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Kurt Fankhauser < >>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If you have a backhaul covered in ice i can almost guarantee that the >>>>>> ice is causing your signal being down, seen this a couple winters ago on >>>>>> an >>>>>> AF5X link with 2 foot dishes, your pretty much screwed until the ice >>>>>> melts >>>>>> off.. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Had a wind/storm and everything come through, wind picked up at 4am >>>>>>> and 4:30-5 we went from 61 db to 70 and a bit later down to 80 db. >>>>>>> Everything is covered in ice. BH is 12.5 miles north/south. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have another BH 12.5 miles north/south (in line with the af5x) with >>>>>>> no problems. Ruled out thermal inversion or anything because of this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any ideas besides bad jumpers/water or the dish got moved? It was >>>>>>> only 25 mph winds, which admittedly is pretty faster for here, but just >>>>>>> wanted to bounce ideas before climbing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Aircontrol pulls in public ip addresses instead of private ips.
Mine has worked fairly well for several years too however we are on beta =O On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Kevin Melson <e...@e1w.com> wrote: > yes it is nat'd on same network.this has worked fine for last 8 years > that we have used air control. its just in the last few months this started > happening. > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin Melson > > Eagle One Wireless\PC Station > > 2007 Hwy 72 E > > Corinth, MS 38834 > > 662-287-1722 > > e...@e1w.com > > *www.e1w.com <http://www.e1w.com>* > > -- Original Message -- > From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> > To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > Sent: 1/10/2018 12:20:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Aircontrol pulls in public ip addresses instead > of private ips. > > If it helps, I can tell you I have Nat'd devices on AC2 but they do not > pull in the publics. Is your AC2 Nat'd on the same network? My AC2 does do > a strange thing once in a while though - it pulls in the gateway address, > which is my Mikrotik rather than the radio address. > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Kevin Melson <e...@e1w.com> wrote: > >> Aircontrol is pulling in our public ip addresses instead or our private >> addresses. These ip addresses are nat'd in the mikrotik. This only started >> couple beta versions back in aircontrol. We have almost 700 radios in >> aircontrol. 95 show up as our public ip addresses instead of our private >> addresses. The rest of the radios pull in just fine. And yes the 95 that >> come in wrong are in some of the same networks that come in just fine. >> Anybody got an idea I could try to make them come in correctly. I have >> tried deleting them and letting aircontrol discover them again but it still >> pulls in public ip address. >> >> >> >> No rhyme or reason on the radios. they are a mixture of powerbeam, locos, >> bullet m2, nanostations,nanobridges, rockets and rockets ac lite.most >> radios are on 6.13 or 6.14 beta. >> I posted on ubnt forum but haven't gotten response from anyone at >> ubiquiti >> Anyone got any ideas I could try? >> Server Version : v2.1-Beta10-171222-1803 >> Server Name : >> Server Uptime : 02:16:33 >> Database Version : PostgreSQL 9.5.9, compiled by Visual C++ build 1800, >> 64-bit >> Database Schema Version : 11.0 >> OS Name : Windows 10 >> OS Version : 10.0 >> JRE Version : 1.8.0_102 >> JRE Architecture : 64 bit >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Kevin Melson >> >> Eagle One Wireless\PC Station >> >> 2007 Hwy 72 E >> >> Corinth, MS 38834 >> >> 662-287-1722 >> >> e...@e1w.com >> >> *www.e1w.com <http://www.e1w.com>* >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > -- > -RickG > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Aircontrol pulls in public ip addresses instead of private ips.
If it helps, I can tell you I have Nat'd devices on AC2 but they do not pull in the publics. Is your AC2 Nat'd on the same network? My AC2 does do a strange thing once in a while though - it pulls in the gateway address, which is my Mikrotik rather than the radio address. On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Kevin Melson <e...@e1w.com> wrote: > Aircontrol is pulling in our public ip addresses instead or our private > addresses. These ip addresses are nat'd in the mikrotik. This only started > couple beta versions back in aircontrol. We have almost 700 radios in > aircontrol. 95 show up as our public ip addresses instead of our private > addresses. The rest of the radios pull in just fine. And yes the 95 that > come in wrong are in some of the same networks that come in just fine. > Anybody got an idea I could try to make them come in correctly. I have > tried deleting them and letting aircontrol discover them again but it still > pulls in public ip address. > > > > No rhyme or reason on the radios. they are a mixture of powerbeam, locos, > bullet m2, nanostations,nanobridges, rockets and rockets ac lite.most > radios are on 6.13 or 6.14 beta. > I posted on ubnt forum but haven't gotten response from anyone at ubiquiti > Anyone got any ideas I could try? > Server Version : v2.1-Beta10-171222-1803 > Server Name : > Server Uptime : 02:16:33 > Database Version : PostgreSQL 9.5.9, compiled by Visual C++ build 1800, > 64-bit > Database Schema Version : 11.0 > OS Name : Windows 10 > OS Version : 10.0 > JRE Version : 1.8.0_102 > JRE Architecture : 64 bit > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin Melson > > Eagle One Wireless\PC Station > > 2007 Hwy 72 E > > Corinth, MS 38834 > > 662-287-1722 > > e...@e1w.com > > *www.e1w.com <http://www.e1w.com>* > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source
Correct about cordless phones. I had one so leaky that it cut out the radio every time you made a call! On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote: > How about changing the Ethernet cable or re-crimping connectors? Since > this is on 2.4 GHz I would check to see how many Bluetooth devices they may > be using especially speakers and such. That frequency hops the band and if > enough devices are all hopping around it might be enough to mess with your > radio. The hopping sequences are probably too fast to show up on airview. > Other ideas to check are things like local transmitters on other RF > frequencies. Ham radio operator, business band radio, volunteer firefighter > with a radio? One other possible source could be an old cordless phone or > two, they have been used on both the 900 and 2.4 GHz bands. Locate them all > and replace them with DECT 6.0 phones, those are on their own dedicated 1.8 > GHz spectrum. Even one they don’t use in another room will broadcast when > the phone rings. Unless you were there as its ringing you would not see it > on airview either. > > > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *RickG > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 06, 2017 11:26 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source > > > > Do you have a network monitor that confirms this or is it just hearsay > from the customer? Also, have you checked power? > > > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jan Van Kort <j.vank...@oregononline.net> > wrote: > > Tower is in plain view, no obstructions, is set to 2412Mhz, 20Mhz bw at > less than 3 miles away. Tower is a rocketM2 with a 120degree sector > antenna am-2g15-120. There are 24 users connected. Problem first started > showing up when there were maybe 5 users over 2 years ago. There is only 1 > user with this problem and there are at least 6 users within easy sight of > this 1 user who have no problems. Problem seems to be specific to this one > location, I suspect it has something to do with pump-motors as they turn on > at random times and there are several in the nearby area. How do I prove > the problem? Anybody know what kind of test equipment would spot motor > and/or power noise? An old black and white TV used to be pretty useful at > picking up un-grounded motor-noise, I don't have one and we don't have a tv > station that broadcasts something an old-tv would even tune to. > > The one-time I saw the problem while I was there and airview showed > nothing useful. Channel 1 and 11 were empty, actually all the channels > were empty when there should have been something. I don't know what could > essentially block signal, which is kind of what I saw. > > > > On 2017-12-06 01:33 PM, Mitch wrote: > > Does this site have Perfectly clear line of site? What is the tower AP? > > If clear line of site and V/H AP try setting the CPE to the Horizontal and > see if that clears it up > > This has worked a few times for me > > If not you may need to rent an Anritzu and set it to record for a few days > to see what the > > interference is > > > > Mitch Koep > > 218-851-8689 cell > > > > On 12/6/2017 2:39 PM, Jan Van Kort wrote: > > I think I've tried everything mentioned at least once. I moved it to a > NSM900 Loco for awhile from a different tower. I've had NSM2, NSM2Loco, > AirGridM2 and AirGridM2HP and NanoBeamM2, Maybe next try a > PowerbeamM2-400? Don't have an M5 tower near here yet. Client uses an > Air-Router set to channel 6. Everything in large house uses channel 6 to > talk to Air-Router. Have changed the Router to Gateways and even other > brands. Always the same intermittent problem with connecting to internet. > > Presently, channel width is 20Mhz (everyone gets this setting via tower) > on channel #1 (2412Mhz) signal is: -59 and using an airgridM2HP. PWDOG set > to tower IP 300 seconds. > > FYI--I've had this problem for 2 years. Couldn't resolve it and stopped > service. Customer wants our service and wants problem resolved. > > > > > > On 2017-12-06 10:57 AM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC wrote: > > Two things I've done when experiencing odd issues at one site that worked > for me. > > > > 1. Check customer router settings. Reduce channel width to 20 mhz on > both 2.4 and 5 only and set channels to ones you don't use. I've had some > customer routers blasting at 40 or 80 mhz channel width. Once I reduced, > both my radio stats and their experience improved. I'
Re: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source
Rory, I've thought of that but do you get push back from the customers? On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: > We make our customers turn off their 5GHz radios on our network just for > this reason. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Aaron McKillip > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 06, 2017 11:06 AM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source > > > > Dual Band router? > > Aaron McKillip > > Hamilton Telecommunications > > 402-694-6655 > > > On Dec 6, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Jan Van Kort <j.vank...@oregononline.net> > wrote: > > It's just the one customer. Neighbors to each side are just fine. > Neighbors are about 1/4 mile away on same hillside in quasi-rural area. > There are no other WISPs in area, no airFiber that I've found. AirView > shows nothing worth getting excited about when problem isn't happening, > when problem is happening Airview is not accessible as unit is not > responding. Rarely has problem occurred while I'm on the premises and goes > away before I can zero in on it. I'm suspecting large pumps, old > transformers, bad neutral? How to prove and stop wasting time and money on > one customer? Pulling hair time! > > > > On 2017-12-06 09:17 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Spectrum Analyzer and AirView both show real noise. > > > > You said you changed bands at the customer site, are there other customers > on those APs that are having issues or is it this one guy? > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Phil Curnutt <pcurn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have on two occasions tried to cross the path of an AirFiber5 and had > the signal completely blocked. Like Rory said they don't show up on Site > Surveys or noise figures, but are very apparent in AirView. > > > > Phil > > > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> > wrote: > > Could still be noise. Canopy and AFx equipment won't show up in the noise > figures. > > Rory > > -Original Message- > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > On Behalf Of Jan-OOLLC > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 11:07 PM > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > Subject: [Ubnt_users] cannot find interference source > > Have a client that is difficult to login to at times, service for them > seems to quit. Has good signal strength. Have changed the radio to > different models and frequencies and connected to different towers. It's > like some kind of barrier at random times is erected between house and > tower. Site survey and spectrum analyzer never show anything remotely > definitive as to possible cause or source of trouble. Could problem be > noisy electrical transformers or well pumps and what low-cost equipment > would I need to find it? > > -- > > J > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > > > ___ > > Ubnt_users mailing list > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This email and any attachments are confidential and > may be protected by legal privilege. If you have received this email in > error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete all > copies of this email. > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This email and any attachments are confidential and > may be protected by legal privilege. If you have received this email in > error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete all > copies of this email. > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Radios won't operate on the same channel
https://www.ubnt.com/iccoderequest On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Roy <r.engehau...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have a Nanobridge running 6.1.3 trying to connect to a Nanostation > also running 6.1.3 > > The Nanostation is the AP and set for 5630 Mhz. The Nanobridge won't > connect since it doesn't seem to allow operation on that channel? > > A check of allowed channels has the Nanobridge missing 5585 to 5655 Mhz > > Any ideas on how to fix this? > > Roy > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
Thanks Gents! On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Tommy Adams <tomm...@digitex.net> wrote: > We have moved several Mikrotik 2.4 towers to the ePMP 2.4 and see huge > increases in performance. The stuff just works. We will be elevating our > remaining 2.4 UBNT gear very soon. > > > > Tommy A. > Digitex.com > > 817.558.6230 V > 817.558.1204 F > > On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:11 PM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> wrote: > > It's an ePMP 1000 2ghz with sync connected to a ubnt 2ghz sector. We > elevated the people connect to the old rocket and swapped the Rocket with > the ePMP. Signals were about the same maybe a bit less but performance was > greatly increased. > > On Nov 18, 2017 12:55 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > > David, What AP did you use for the NS2's? > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> > wrote: > >> That was a 5ghz. I have elevated some NS2's. Here is a NS2 with a >> reflector dish at 14.8 miles getting about 62mbps down. I am really >> impressed with what I can now get from the 2ghz. >> >> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:18 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Ha-vent had any issues with the Rocket Prism 5GHz but the "XM" firmware >>> 2.4GHz CPE not so much ;( >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:33 PM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> We tried an AC with MM sync And the performance is worse than just >>>> mixed mode. It may have to do with the clients that have poor signal. With >>>> an elevated XM I can pull 70mbps at a -73 signal with 60 other people >>>> connected to the AP on a 40mhz channel. with a - 64 signal I can pull >>>> 94mbps maxing out the 100mbps port. an XW on the same sector can pull about >>>> 127mbps tcp throughput. >>>> No matter what I tried with UBNT I could not get my legacy devices to >>>> pull more than 40mbps TCP on a sector with more than 35 devices connected. >>>> sure its udp test showed 85mbps+ but the TCP was barely half that. With the >>>> cambium tests the TCP is usually within 5% of it. >>>> >>>> We have also had problems with random UDP packets going missing and it >>>> causes problems with VOIP and gamers. its not the connection quality >>>> because we can use a VPN and magically the udp didn't disappear. adding the >>>> latency and overhead improved the VOIP and UDP based games. >>>> >>>> Going Forward we may have places that pure AC may work well but for any >>>> of the old M equipment nothing beats an ePMP2000 with elevated firmware. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:38 PM, J Portman <ba...@baron.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just as a data point, we upgraded one of our towers to run sync in >>>>> mixed mode a few weeks ago and it has performed flawlessly. >>>>> >>>>> We are getting ready to roll sync out to the entire network (60+ APS). >>>>> I will report on our progress. >>>>> >>>>> YMMV, >>>>> JP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 19:56:17 +, Rory Conaway wrote* >>>>> > Understood. With the [UTF-8?]Prism’s handling multi-mode, have >>>>> you considered that option? >>>>> > >>>>> > Rory >>>>> > >>>>> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis >>>>> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *David Jones >>>>> > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 12:21 PM >>>>> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Well for us it is because we are elevating our units. I also hate >>>>> the locked firmware at and after 6.0.6 >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rory Conaway < >>>>> r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > Why are you still running 6.0.4? >>>>> > >>>>> > Rory >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis >&
Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
David, What AP did you use for the NS2's? On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> wrote: > That was a 5ghz. I have elevated some NS2's. Here is a NS2 with a > reflector dish at 14.8 miles getting about 62mbps down. I am really > impressed with what I can now get from the 2ghz. > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:18 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ha-vent had any issues with the Rocket Prism 5GHz but the "XM" firmware >> 2.4GHz CPE not so much ;( >> >> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:33 PM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> >> wrote: >> >>> We tried an AC with MM sync And the performance is worse than just mixed >>> mode. It may have to do with the clients that have poor signal. With an >>> elevated XM I can pull 70mbps at a -73 signal with 60 other people >>> connected to the AP on a 40mhz channel. with a - 64 signal I can pull >>> 94mbps maxing out the 100mbps port. an XW on the same sector can pull about >>> 127mbps tcp throughput. >>> No matter what I tried with UBNT I could not get my legacy devices to >>> pull more than 40mbps TCP on a sector with more than 35 devices connected. >>> sure its udp test showed 85mbps+ but the TCP was barely half that. With the >>> cambium tests the TCP is usually within 5% of it. >>> >>> We have also had problems with random UDP packets going missing and it >>> causes problems with VOIP and gamers. its not the connection quality >>> because we can use a VPN and magically the udp didn't disappear. adding the >>> latency and overhead improved the VOIP and UDP based games. >>> >>> Going Forward we may have places that pure AC may work well but for any >>> of the old M equipment nothing beats an ePMP2000 with elevated firmware. >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:38 PM, J Portman <ba...@baron.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Just as a data point, we upgraded one of our towers to run sync in >>>> mixed mode a few weeks ago and it has performed flawlessly. >>>> >>>> We are getting ready to roll sync out to the entire network (60+ APS). >>>> I will report on our progress. >>>> >>>> YMMV, >>>> JP >>>> >>>> >>>> *On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 19:56:17 +, Rory Conaway wrote* >>>> > Understood. With the [UTF-8?]Prism’s handling multi-mode, have you >>>> considered that option? >>>> > >>>> > Rory >>>> > >>>> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis >>>> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *David Jones >>>> > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 12:21 PM >>>> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Well for us it is because we are elevating our units. I also hate the >>>> locked firmware at and after 6.0.6 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rory Conaway < >>>> r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Why are you still running 6.0.4? >>>> > >>>> > Rory >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis >>>> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC >>>> > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 5:31 AM >>>> > >>>> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4. I have had to go through my >>>> system to find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4 Downgraded to >>>> 5.6.15 for them to be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware at >>>> the time. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Troy Gibson >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Original message >>>> > >>>&
Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
Wow! On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> wrote: > That was a 5ghz. I have elevated some NS2's. Here is a NS2 with a > reflector dish at 14.8 miles getting about 62mbps down. I am really > impressed with what I can now get from the 2ghz. > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:18 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ha-vent had any issues with the Rocket Prism 5GHz but the "XM" firmware >> 2.4GHz CPE not so much ;( >> >> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:33 PM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> >> wrote: >> >>> We tried an AC with MM sync And the performance is worse than just mixed >>> mode. It may have to do with the clients that have poor signal. With an >>> elevated XM I can pull 70mbps at a -73 signal with 60 other people >>> connected to the AP on a 40mhz channel. with a - 64 signal I can pull >>> 94mbps maxing out the 100mbps port. an XW on the same sector can pull about >>> 127mbps tcp throughput. >>> No matter what I tried with UBNT I could not get my legacy devices to >>> pull more than 40mbps TCP on a sector with more than 35 devices connected. >>> sure its udp test showed 85mbps+ but the TCP was barely half that. With the >>> cambium tests the TCP is usually within 5% of it. >>> >>> We have also had problems with random UDP packets going missing and it >>> causes problems with VOIP and gamers. its not the connection quality >>> because we can use a VPN and magically the udp didn't disappear. adding the >>> latency and overhead improved the VOIP and UDP based games. >>> >>> Going Forward we may have places that pure AC may work well but for any >>> of the old M equipment nothing beats an ePMP2000 with elevated firmware. >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:38 PM, J Portman <ba...@baron.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Just as a data point, we upgraded one of our towers to run sync in >>>> mixed mode a few weeks ago and it has performed flawlessly. >>>> >>>> We are getting ready to roll sync out to the entire network (60+ APS). >>>> I will report on our progress. >>>> >>>> YMMV, >>>> JP >>>> >>>> >>>> *On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 19:56:17 +, Rory Conaway wrote* >>>> > Understood. With the [UTF-8?]Prism’s handling multi-mode, have you >>>> considered that option? >>>> > >>>> > Rory >>>> > >>>> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis >>>> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *David Jones >>>> > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 12:21 PM >>>> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Well for us it is because we are elevating our units. I also hate the >>>> locked firmware at and after 6.0.6 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rory Conaway < >>>> r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Why are you still running 6.0.4? >>>> > >>>> > Rory >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis >>>> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC >>>> > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 5:31 AM >>>> > >>>> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4. I have had to go through my >>>> system to find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4 Downgraded to >>>> 5.6.15 for them to be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware at >>>> the time. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Troy Gibson >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Original message >>>> > >>>> > From: RickG <rgunder.
Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
2.4GHz and/or 5GHz? On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 3:38 PM, J Portman <ba...@baron.com> wrote: > Just as a data point, we upgraded one of our towers to run sync in mixed > mode a few weeks ago and it has performed flawlessly. > > We are getting ready to roll sync out to the entire network (60+ APS). I > will report on our progress. > > YMMV, > JP > > > *On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 19:56:17 +, Rory Conaway wrote* > > Understood. With the [UTF-8?]Prism’s handling multi-mode, have you > considered that option? > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@ > wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *David Jones > > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 12:21 PM > > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices > > > > > > Well for us it is because we are elevating our units. I also hate the > locked firmware at and after 6.0.6 > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> > wrote: > > > > > > Why are you still running 6.0.4? > > > > Rory > > > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@ > wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC > > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 5:31 AM > > > > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices > > > > > > > > Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4. I have had to go through my > system to find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4 Downgraded to > 5.6.15 for them to be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware at > the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Troy Gibson > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > > > > > > > Original message > > > > From: RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> > > > > Date: 11/17/17 4:51 AM (GMT-05:00) > > > > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > > > > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices > > > > > > > > The beta works better. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Phil Curnutt <pcurn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > AirControl2 2.0.3 is found on Ubnt.com, Support>Downloads>AirMax>Utilities. > Your have choices of Linux or Windows10 Servers and Clients and Mac > Clients. I found our 900 radios on 5.6.9, but not the one on 6.0.4, but I > was able to add the device manually using v 2.0.2. > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Jan Van Kort < > j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote: > > > > > > I had an earlier version of air control installed and gave up trying to > make it work over 2 years ago. Where do i go to get a current version of > air control so I can try it again? I'm wandering around the ubnt.com > website and can't find it. Does the current version have the 6.04 issue? > > > > > > On 08/31/2017 11:05 AM, James Craig via Ubnt_users wrote: > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > > > This is most likely due to this change in discovery in 6.0.4. We're > adding CGN address space in 6.0.7, so moving forward, you will only be able > to discover from RFC1918 and RFC6598 address. IP range scanning should > still work. > > > > > > > > - Fix: Limit discovery response to queries from private > subnets or > multicast/broadcast > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC < > t...@byhalia.net> wrote: > > > > > > I'm on AC2.1 beta 7 and it won't find any 6.0.4 radios, XW or XM. I had > some being monitored on beta 6, so those are still monitored, but show in > devices not found column of discovery. TCP scan only showed prism radios > too. > > > > > > > > I downgraded to 5.6.15 and it was discovered. I had to downgrade AP and > CPE for it to discover the devices on AC. Now to search for the missing > radios!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Troy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > > > > > > > Original message > > > > From: CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyb
Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
Mine does. Using AC 2.1 Beta9 On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC < t...@byhalia.net> wrote: > Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4. I have had to go through my system > to find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4 Downgraded to 5.6.15 for > them to be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware at the time. > > > > Troy Gibson > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > Original message > From: RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> > Date: 11/17/17 4:51 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices > > The beta works better. > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Phil Curnutt <pcurn...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> AirControl2 2.0.3 is found on Ubnt.com, Support>Downloads>AirMax>Utilities. >> Your have choices of Linux or Windows10 Servers and Clients and Mac >> Clients. I found our 900 radios on 5.6.9, but not the one on 6.0.4, but I >> was able to add the device manually using v 2.0.2. >> >> Phil >> >> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Jan Van Kort < >> j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote: >> >>> I had an earlier version of air control installed and gave up trying to >>> make it work over 2 years ago. Where do i go to get a current version of >>> air control so I can try it again? I'm wandering around the ubnt.com >>> website and can't find it. Does the current version have the 6.04 issue? >>> >>> On 08/31/2017 11:05 AM, James Craig via Ubnt_users wrote: >>> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> This is most likely due to this change in discovery in 6.0.4. We're >>> adding CGN address space in 6.0.7, so moving forward, you will only be able >>> to discover from RFC1918 and RFC6598 address. IP range scanning should >>> still work. >>> >>> - Fix: Limit discovery response to queries from private subnets or >>> multicast/broadcast >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC < >>> t...@byhalia.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm on AC2.1 beta 7 and it won't find any 6.0.4 radios, XW or XM. I >>>> had some being monitored on beta 6, so those are still monitored, but show >>>> in devices not found column of discovery. TCP scan only showed prism >>>> radios too. >>>> >>>> I downgraded to 5.6.15 and it was discovered. I had to downgrade AP >>>> and CPE for it to discover the devices on AC. Now to search for the missing >>>> radios!! >>>> >>>> >>>> Troy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >>>> >>>> Original message >>>> From: CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> >>>> Date: 8/31/17 1:25 PM (GMT-05:00) >>>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>>> Subject: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices >>>> >>>> >>>> Been reading all about it in the ubnt forums - but anyone have any >>>> suggestions around this? >>>> >>>> Thought I'd post it here too - >>>> >>>> Haven't run aircontrol since about 18 months ago. About nine months >>>> ago I attempted to upgrade to the then current beta but it basically >>>> corrupted my database and would not even start the server service. Last >>>> night late I started over again from scratch. Ran into the 6.0.4 problem >>>> as one of my network segments (from a recent purchase) we have manually >>>> changed the ip addresses and put them all on 6.0.4 >>>> >>>> >>>> A different segment is still running 5.6.3. I was planning to move >>>> them all to 6.0.4 and also make a mass change of the username / password. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Left discovering overnight, found all the devices on 5.6.3 on that >>>> particular network segment but did not find any 6.0.4 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Today once googling and discovering this issue I downgraded an AP from >>>> 6.0.4 to 5.6.3 and discovery found it immediately. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't want to do this to 300 devices. >>>> >>>> >>>> &
Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
The beta works better. On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Phil Curnutt <pcurn...@gmail.com> wrote: > AirControl2 2.0.3 is found on Ubnt.com, Support>Downloads>AirMax>Utilities. > Your have choices of Linux or Windows10 Servers and Clients and Mac > Clients. I found our 900 radios on 5.6.9, but not the one on 6.0.4, but I > was able to add the device manually using v 2.0.2. > > Phil > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Jan Van Kort <j.vank...@oregononline.net > > wrote: > >> I had an earlier version of air control installed and gave up trying to >> make it work over 2 years ago. Where do i go to get a current version of >> air control so I can try it again? I'm wandering around the ubnt.com >> website and can't find it. Does the current version have the 6.04 issue? >> >> On 08/31/2017 11:05 AM, James Craig via Ubnt_users wrote: >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> This is most likely due to this change in discovery in 6.0.4. We're >> adding CGN address space in 6.0.7, so moving forward, you will only be able >> to discover from RFC1918 and RFC6598 address. IP range scanning should >> still work. >> >> - Fix: Limit discovery response to queries from private subnets or >> multicast/broadcast >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC < >> t...@byhalia.net> wrote: >> >>> I'm on AC2.1 beta 7 and it won't find any 6.0.4 radios, XW or XM. I had >>> some being monitored on beta 6, so those are still monitored, but show in >>> devices not found column of discovery. TCP scan only showed prism radios >>> too. >>> >>> I downgraded to 5.6.15 and it was discovered. I had to downgrade AP and >>> CPE for it to discover the devices on AC. Now to search for the missing >>> radios!! >>> >>> >>> Troy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >>> >>> Original message >>> From: CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> >>> Date: 8/31/17 1:25 PM (GMT-05:00) >>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>> Subject: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices >>> >>> >>> Been reading all about it in the ubnt forums - but anyone have any >>> suggestions around this? >>> >>> Thought I'd post it here too - >>> >>> Haven't run aircontrol since about 18 months ago. About nine months ago >>> I attempted to upgrade to the then current beta but it basically corrupted >>> my database and would not even start the server service. Last night late I >>> started over again from scratch. Ran into the 6.0.4 problem as one of my >>> network segments (from a recent purchase) we have manually changed the ip >>> addresses and put them all on 6.0.4 >>> >>> >>> A different segment is still running 5.6.3. I was planning to move them >>> all to 6.0.4 and also make a mass change of the username / password. >>> >>> >>> >>> Left discovering overnight, found all the devices on 5.6.3 on that >>> particular network segment but did not find any 6.0.4 >>> >>> >>> >>> Today once googling and discovering this issue I downgraded an AP from >>> 6.0.4 to 5.6.3 and discovery found it immediately. >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't want to do this to 300 devices. >>> >>> >>> >>> Aircontrol v.2.0.2.2874.170719.18353 is running on a public IP within >>> our network. >>> >>> >>> >>> I tried to new feature tcp scan but no luck (probably because the server >>> is in public ip space). >>> >>> >>> I thought about temporarily changing the IP but then radios would be >>> reporting to the wrong IP. >>> >>> >>> >>> I can manually add the device but have not found a way to do that in >>> bulk. >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't know if it is easier for me to upgrade to something higher than >>> 6.0.4 on all of my devices and use discovery or to manually add 300+ >>> devices. I am hoping for another option. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bueller? Bueller? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing >> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Out of Office Autoreply
Great idea! Send your customers with issues to Google! On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > That support email address... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Nov 7, 2017 12:01 PM, "John C. Reid via Ubnt_users" < > ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote: > >> I am out of the office from 11/3 through 11/8. Assistance is available >> via phone or E-mail 24 hours a day by contacting support. The support >> E-mail address is supp...@gmail.com. Thank you. >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M2 ethernet link problem.
That's the story of my life - not enough daylight! On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > We would have but ran out of daylight. > > RickG wrote: > > Jay, It sounds like you've done everything except test the cable end > > to end with a good tester which is the first thing I'd do. After that, > > I'd swap out the RM2. > > > > On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net > > <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: > > > > We lost a Ubiquiti Rocket M2 during a storm. We replaced it with a > > "new" > > out of box M2 but it won't link with the 10/100/1000 switch. When the > > techs bypass the switch they get a 10 megabit link but not 100 > megabit > > and can access the radio on their laptop but moving the radio back to > > the switch and nothing. For trouble shooting they tried the following > > but nothing gave them a link to the switch: > > - swapping the switch with another 10/100/1000 unit. > > - swapping patch cords > > - replacing the power supply. > > - forcing the radio to 10 megabit full. > > - resetting and reprogramming the radio. > > - re-terminating the lower end of the cable run. > > Is this a cable issue? It's a 2 month old Shireen Cat 6 run so I > > hate to > > think it's bad already. The weather isn't going to make another tower > > climb likely for the next few days so we need to get it to link > > with the > > switch for a little while. Any suggestions on how to do that? Find an > > old 10/100 switch? > > ___ > > Ubnt_users mailing list > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -RickG > > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email; > utm_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email; > utm_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> > > > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > > > ___ > > Ubnt_users mailing list > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket M2 ethernet link problem.
Jay, It sounds like you've done everything except test the cable end to end with a good tester which is the first thing I'd do. After that, I'd swap out the RM2. On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > We lost a Ubiquiti Rocket M2 during a storm. We replaced it with a "new" > out of box M2 but it won't link with the 10/100/1000 switch. When the > techs bypass the switch they get a 10 megabit link but not 100 megabit > and can access the radio on their laptop but moving the radio back to > the switch and nothing. For trouble shooting they tried the following > but nothing gave them a link to the switch: > - swapping the switch with another 10/100/1000 unit. > - swapping patch cords > - replacing the power supply. > - forcing the radio to 10 megabit full. > - resetting and reprogramming the radio. > - re-terminating the lower end of the cable run. > Is this a cable issue? It's a 2 month old Shireen Cat 6 run so I hate to > think it's bad already. The weather isn't going to make another tower > climb likely for the next few days so we need to get it to link with the > switch for a little while. Any suggestions on how to do that? Find an > old 10/100 switch? > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] [WISPA Members] R2AC
Got it. How's it doing for you? On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 2:12 AM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote: > By direct request in the 2AC beta forum. > > You have to ask for it. > > -- > > On 10/30/2017 10:31 PM, RickG wrote: > > As far a I can tell, the latest for the R2AC is 8.2.0. Yes, I'm on the > beta program but it appears 8.4.3 is only out for 5AC units? > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote: > >> To support M clients in AirMax mode, you need 8.20 or later on the 2AC AP >> and 6.04 or later on the M clients. >> >> GPS is now supported with 8.43Beta and 6.13Beta respectively. (20 or >> 40MHz channel only) >> >> -- >> >> On 10/30/2017 6:30 PM, Mimbres Communications wrote: >> >> 2XC.v8.4.3-beta on the AP and 6.1.3-beta on the stations. >> >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> >> wrote: >> >>> I would assume if 8.x firmware was on the AC and 6.x was on the Ms, >>> you'd be okay. >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> -- >>> *From: *"Mike Lyon" <mike.l...@gmail.com> >>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>> *Sent: *Monday, October 30, 2017 5:18:27 PM >>> *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] R2AC >>> >>> >>> Anyone know if if the R2AC is backwards compatible with standard Rocket >>> M2s and powerbeams and such? >>> >>> Thank You, >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mike Lyon >>> mike.l...@gmail.com >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Kurt Albershardt | Mimbres Communications, LLC | 575-342-0042 >> >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing >> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> -- >> West Michigan Wireless ISP >> Allegan, Michigan 49010 >> 269-686-8648 >> >> A Division of: >> Camp Communication Services, INC >> >> >> ___ >> Members mailing list >> memb...@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members >> >> > > > -- > -RickG > > > ___ > Members mailing > listMembers@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members > > > -- > West Michigan Wireless ISP > Allegan, Michigan 49010 > 269-686-8648 > > A Division of: > Camp Communication Services, INC > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] R2AC
...and "mixed-mode" of course ;) My question is: How do you know the GPS is working? On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Mimbres Communications <mim...@sw-ei.com> wrote: > 2XC.v8.4.3-beta on the AP and 6.1.3-beta on the stations. > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> > wrote: > >> I would assume if 8.x firmware was on the AC and 6.x was on the Ms, you'd >> be okay. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Mike Lyon" <mike.l...@gmail.com> >> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> *Sent: *Monday, October 30, 2017 5:18:27 PM >> *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] R2AC >> >> >> Anyone know if if the R2AC is backwards compatible with standard Rocket >> M2s and powerbeams and such? >> >> Thank You, >> Mike >> >> >> -- >> Mike Lyon >> mike.l...@gmail.com >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > -- > > Kurt Albershardt | Mimbres Communications, LLC | 575-342-0042 > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Interesting RP5AC Gen2 crashing problem...
The good news is it's up! Wonder if it's false-positives? What did a scan look like? On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 12:48 AM, <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > Switched it to a non-dfs freq and it was golden. > > Totally weird. > > On Oct 27, 2017, at 21:36, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Strange. Did you try another frequency? > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 12:29 AM, <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Had it happen on both an old rev that was like 3-4 revs behind and the >> current XC 8.4.2 >> >> On Oct 27, 2017, at 21:22, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Which firmware? >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 12:14 AM, <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Ran across a weird problem today. I've been running a RP5AC Gen2 >>> (current firmware) radio on 120 sector for about the last 6 months on freq >>> 5300 Mhz. Its been working great. Until today. >>> >>> The unit started crashing about every 4 minutes today. I thought it was >>> a bad radio so i swapped it with a spare i had of the same model (3-4 revs >>> behind in firmware) and it did the same thing. Every 4 minutes or so, it >>> would crash. >>> >>> This sounded like a power problem to me so i replaced all the ends on >>> thw cables and swapped the Netonix to a UBNT injector. Same problem. >>> >>> So i then move the power injector up to the roof and hook it up to the >>> radio. All 7 clients connect, comes to the 4 minute point and poof, it >>> crashes. >>> >>> Then i decided to unhook the GPS and both chain 0 and 1 pigtails and the >>> radio is fine, doesn't crash at all. >>> >>> I then hook the sector and GPS back up to the radio and switch to a >>> non-DFS channel and all is good. >>> >>> Crash reports sent to UBNT. >>> >>> WTF? >>> >>> -Mike >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > -- > -RickG > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Interesting RP5AC Gen2 crashing problem...
Strange. Did you try another frequency? On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 12:29 AM, <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > Had it happen on both an old rev that was like 3-4 revs behind and the > current XC 8.4.2 > > On Oct 27, 2017, at 21:22, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Which firmware? > > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 12:14 AM, <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ran across a weird problem today. I've been running a RP5AC Gen2 (current >> firmware) radio on 120 sector for about the last 6 months on freq 5300 Mhz. >> Its been working great. Until today. >> >> The unit started crashing about every 4 minutes today. I thought it was a >> bad radio so i swapped it with a spare i had of the same model (3-4 revs >> behind in firmware) and it did the same thing. Every 4 minutes or so, it >> would crash. >> >> This sounded like a power problem to me so i replaced all the ends on thw >> cables and swapped the Netonix to a UBNT injector. Same problem. >> >> So i then move the power injector up to the roof and hook it up to the >> radio. All 7 clients connect, comes to the 4 minute point and poof, it >> crashes. >> >> Then i decided to unhook the GPS and both chain 0 and 1 pigtails and the >> radio is fine, doesn't crash at all. >> >> I then hook the sector and GPS back up to the radio and switch to a >> non-DFS channel and all is good. >> >> Crash reports sent to UBNT. >> >> WTF? >> >> -Mike >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > > -- > -RickG > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Interesting RP5AC Gen2 crashing problem...
Which firmware? On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 12:14 AM, <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ran across a weird problem today. I've been running a RP5AC Gen2 (current > firmware) radio on 120 sector for about the last 6 months on freq 5300 Mhz. > Its been working great. Until today. > > The unit started crashing about every 4 minutes today. I thought it was a > bad radio so i swapped it with a spare i had of the same model (3-4 revs > behind in firmware) and it did the same thing. Every 4 minutes or so, it > would crash. > > This sounded like a power problem to me so i replaced all the ends on thw > cables and swapped the Netonix to a UBNT injector. Same problem. > > So i then move the power injector up to the roof and hook it up to the > radio. All 7 clients connect, comes to the 4 minute point and poof, it > crashes. > > Then i decided to unhook the GPS and both chain 0 and 1 pigtails and the > radio is fine, doesn't crash at all. > > I then hook the sector and GPS back up to the radio and switch to a > non-DFS channel and all is good. > > Crash reports sent to UBNT. > > WTF? > > -Mike > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes
"Also, I found that the AF5 mounts and the AF11FX mounts are the same as well, which really made upgrading that link a breeze." Do I misunderstand or are you using an AF11 on a Rocket Dish 5? On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Phil Curnutt <pcurn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Concur. I used four RD's when we started converting because we had them > in hand. After that went with the AirFiber dishes. What is really cool > about the AirFiber dishes is the mount is the same as the RD's and AC 620s, > so if you are upgrading you don't have to mess much with alignment, just > plug and play. Also, I found that the AF5 mounts and the AF11FX mounts are > the same as well, which really made upgrading that link a breeze. > > Phil > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >> Think I'll just go with the newer dish before doing that kind of stuff. >> Thanks for the heads up! >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Oct 19, 2017 12:17 PM, "Phil Curnutt" <pcurn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> AirFibers do not fit the RD-5G30 mount, but a velcro strap works just >>> fine. Ubiquiti makes a conversion kit for the RD-5G30 to make it a >>> slant 45 orientation. Not sure of the AC dish as I haven't put an AirFiber >>> on one >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Electrically I can't imagine why it wouldn't, do you have any ideas? >>>> >>>> Mechanically is the better question to ask and what I should have >>>> stated. Not sure if Ubiquiti went through and made one uniform mounting >>>> for the af5x/AC/prism/M type attachment. >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Mike Hammett < >>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Electrically or mechanically? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> -- >>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 19, 2017 10:39:46 AM >>>>> *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Do these Ubnt dishes work (without modification) with the af5x radio? >>>>> >>>>> RD‑5G31‑AC >>>>> RD-5G30 >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
Ditto On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Scott Lambert <lamb...@lambertfam.org> wrote: > We have about 1500 units on 6.0.4 and a bunch of 8.3.2. No complaints. It > will probably be late spring before we risk 6.1.x/8.4.x due to the > possibility of weather making it difficult to react to any problems which > may pop up with the new software. > > The new software may be perfect. We just don't have a couple of months to > test it. > > > > On October 17, 2017 7:55:54 PM MDT, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com> > wrote: >> >> So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest? >> >> I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on >> Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy with >> different interfaces and fields on forms located in different places caused >> by different versions. And monitoring tools often expect certain versions. >> I understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not broken" but the >> alternative has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug fixes, incompatible >> versions, varied user interfaces, monitoring tool issues, etc.). I prefer >> all devices at a uniform version so I know issues are not caused by version >> differences and everything works/looks the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us >> afraid to upgrade because of the risk of added problems and truck rolls, >> although I did have very good luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer >> upgrading with some regularity, but cautiously. :) >> >> Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs? >> >> Thanks, >> Mark >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 >> >> There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone >> away from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to >> damage my customers experience with other software bugs. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting >>> features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it >>> seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities >>> in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -- Original Message -- >>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 >>> >>> Why fix what isn't broken? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket >>>> M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid >>>> M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment >>>> unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I >>>> used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I >>>> stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I >>>> can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not >>>> worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want >>>> a version that works well. >>>> >>>> Thanks much! >>>> Mark Stephenson >>>> Go Bee Wireless >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Peak CCQ drops
Is 8.4 available for Rocket 2AC? On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 5:53 PM, G. Nicholas <gnicho...@nwnc.net> wrote: > Forbes, > > As long as all your M series radios are XW firmware I would upgrade them > to 6.1 > and then upgrade your AC radios to 8.4 and then switch to fixed frame > mode 75/25 > 8ms with GPS sync. That is what we are running and on some of our heavy > loaded > sites with 12 Prism AC APs it really has cut back on self-interference. > > Garth > > - Original Message - > From: Forbes Mercy > Sent: 10/5/2017 2:24:48 PM > To: ubnt_users@wispa.org > Subject: [Ubnt_users] Peak CCQ drops > > > I'm baffled at diagnosing this one. I have a very busy tower with 14 > AP's fed by two links that move about 6-700Mbs at peak hours. During > those hours customers that during the day are running CCQ's in the 90's > suddenly drop to 60-70% ccq and their pings go from a 30ms average up to > 2000+ms only during peak usage. This seems to run across many > connections to the tower. My techs have tried everything to find the > problem, we run heavy duty Mikrotik routers at that tower and it's fed > by a licensed 11ghz and a fiber fed AF24. > > The frequencies are well spaced and these are happening on Prisim AC2 > radios (although in mixed mode, non-synced) as one particular customer > is on an XW NB22. We checked for surrounding customer noise such as > router/AP's, nothing. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Forbes Mercy > Washington Broadband, Inc. > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own
Maybe try 5.6.9 or higher? On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > 5.6.6 > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:30 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'd bet it's bad. What firmware version? >> >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >>> Is there any possibility besides a bad Rocket? It's rebooted a couple >>> of times over the past few months. >>> >>> <0>[52749.372000] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! >>> <4>[52749.372000] Call Trace: >>> <4>[52749.372000] [[8000ac94]] dump_stack+0x8/0x34 >>> <4>[52749.373000] [[80024680]] panic+0x68/0x140 >>> <4>[52749.373000] [[80027de8]] do_exit+0x27c/0x5f4 >>> <4>[52749.373000] [[8000aaa8]] nmi_exception_handler+0x0/0x34 >>> <4>[52749.373000] >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket rebooting on own
I'd bet it's bad. What firmware version? On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > Is there any possibility besides a bad Rocket? It's rebooted a couple of > times over the past few months. > > <0>[52749.372000] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! > <4>[52749.372000] Call Trace: > <4>[52749.372000] [[8000ac94]] dump_stack+0x8/0x34 > <4>[52749.373000] [[80024680]] panic+0x68/0x140 > <4>[52749.373000] [[80027de8]] do_exit+0x27c/0x5f4 > <4>[52749.373000] [[8000aaa8]] nmi_exception_handler+0x0/0x34 > <4>[52749.373000] > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
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Re: [Ubnt_users] duplicate IPs
AC2 Beta 2.0 version 18 works. I attempted to upgrade to 2.1 but failed. Might try again later. Either way, when I get a duplicate IP I just log into whatever answers and change the IP quickly to an unused IP and go on from there. On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Jan Van Kort <j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote: > I tried 2 different versions of aircontrol, neither worked well. Dude > seems superior. Presently am playing with Zenmap. Haven't found any dupes > yet, maybe it's something else. > > On 08/18/2017 08:29 PM, RickG wrote: > > Or AirControl > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > wrote: > >> Like Ubnt specific? Not sure what the question is. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Aug 18, 2017 3:21 PM, "Jan-OOLLC" <j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote: >> >>> Anyone ever dealt with this? >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jan V >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > -- > -RickG > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing > listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Edgerouter Infinity ? Feedback ?
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Stories/EdgeRouter-Infinity-XG-New-kid-on-the-block-taking-EdgeMax-to/cns-p/1879930 On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote: > Hello, > > Anyone playing / testing Edgerouter Infinity ? > > I would love to get some feedback.. the good the bad and the ugly ! > > > Thanks. > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti out of step password rules
Didn't 97% of scientists agree that Mr. Burr's pronouncements were settled science? And that anyone who did not agree were password security deniers? How can this be? I am utterly confused! On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Roy <r.engehau...@gmail.com> wrote: > I recently updated software on one of my units and found the Ubiquiti > changed the password rules. They now require Upper/lower case letters, > numbers, and the wonderful special characters. > > The NIST has finally admitted their mistake in recommending those > password rules > > "The Man Who Wrote Those Password Rules Has a New Tip: N3v$r M1^d!" > > https://www.wsj.com/article_email/the-man-who-wrote-those- > password-rules-has-a-new-tip-n3v-r-m1-d-1502124118- > lMyQjAxMTA3ODA5ODIwMDg3Wj/ > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] GPS Sync in AC Gen 2
He picked the wrong guys to call a$$holes ;P On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 9:16 PM, p...@pliinc.com <pazzaglin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Fuck off... stop email to this addressdumb shit > On Aug 6, 2017 9:13 PM, "HDER Link list" <l...@hderlink.com> wrote: > >> Wow! Inappropriate! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 6, 2017, at 9:05 PM, p...@pliinc.com <pazzaglin...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I fucking did you asshole. .. take me off this spam shit list. >> On Aug 6, 2017 9:03 PM, "Mike Hammett" <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >>> A) It isn't SPAM. >>> B) You should be able to stop it yourself by logging into your WISPA >>> account. >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> -- >>> *From: *"p...@pliinc.com" <pazzaglin...@gmail.com> >>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>> *Sent: *Sunday, August 6, 2017 8:01:34 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] GPS Sync in AC Gen 2 >>> >>> Stop this spam shitI have told this list manager to stop sending to >>> this email. ...stop! >>> On Aug 6, 2017 8:57 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.wispa.org/Resources/Email-Lists >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 7:56 PM, p...@pliinc.com <pazzaglin...@gmail.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Remove from list >>>>> On Jul 18, 2017 11:44 AM, "alex phillips" <highspeedl...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Has anyone had any experience running GPS sync yet in UBNT Gen2 AC >>>>>> products? >>>>>> >>>>>> please share if you have information. >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks >>>>>> *Alex Phillips* >>>>>> CEO and General Manager >>>>>> RBNS.net >>>>>> HighSpeedLink.net >>>>>> *WISPA.org <http://WISPA.org> Board of Directors ** (2011-2017)* >>>>>> *WISPA President (2015-2017)* >>>>>> *540-908-3993 <(540)%20908-3993>* >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -RickG >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] GPS Sync in AC Gen 2
http://www.wispa.org/Resources/Email-Lists On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 7:56 PM, p...@pliinc.com <pazzaglin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Remove from list > On Jul 18, 2017 11:44 AM, "alex phillips" <highspeedl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Has anyone had any experience running GPS sync yet in UBNT Gen2 AC >> products? >> >> please share if you have information. >> >> thanks >> *Alex Phillips* >> CEO and General Manager >> RBNS.net >> HighSpeedLink.net >> *WISPA.org Board of Directors ** (2011-2017)* >> *WISPA President (2015-2017)* >> *540-908-3993 <(540)%20908-3993>* >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] GPS Sync in AC Gen 2
Any news? Has Ubiquiti finally been able to get GPS to work with Gen2 or should I give up and switch to Cambium? On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Mitch <mi...@abetterwireless.com> wrote: > Planning on testing this next week > > I Hope > > Mitch > > On 7/18/2017 10:44 AM, alex phillips wrote: > > Has anyone had any experience running GPS sync yet in UBNT Gen2 AC > products? > > please share if you have information. > > thanks > *Alex Phillips* > CEO and General Manager > RBNS.net > HighSpeedLink.net > *WISPA.org Board of Directors ** (2011-2017)* > *WISPA President (2015-2017)* > *540-908-3993* > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing > listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 2AC Prism Firmware compatibility
Where are you getting the R2AC Prisms? I'm having a hard time locating them. On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:24 AM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > You may need both depending on your mix of CPE. > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> > wrote: > >> I'm upgrading the firmware for some clients for compatibility with the >> Rocket 2AC Prism. Do I need the XW.v.6.0.4 or XM.v.6.0.4 firmware >> versions? >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > > -- > -RickG > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket 2AC Prism Firmware compatibility
You may need both depending on your mix of CPE. On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > I'm upgrading the firmware for some clients for compatibility with the > Rocket 2AC Prism. Do I need the XW.v.6.0.4 or XM.v.6.0.4 firmware > versions? > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
