Re: [uknof] Anyone from EE lurking here

Hey Andy, drop me a mail off-list with some info and I'll see if I can help you out. :⁠-⁠) Tom On 28 November 2023 17:55:12 CET, Andy Hunter wrote: >Hi there, if there is anyone from EE lurking on here, can they please drop me >a line as I am in a world of pain with a new EE FTTP

Re: [uknof] CGNAT Solutions

On 07/07/2023 12:55, Per Bilse via uknof wrote: It's a universal truth, path of least cost (just see what happens with routing if you mess with that). However bizarre CGNAT may seem, it's a hard sell that people should pay more for their Internet so that their traffic can travel by way of a

Re: [uknof] CGNAT Solutions

On 07/07/2023 17:51, Keith Mitchell wrote: Except for some reason their consumer IPv6 addresses are dynamic, and refresh/change frequently  So not so much for consumer<->consumer. It works just fine. The only people that even notice changes in prefix allocation are in a tiny, tiny minority.

Re: [uknof] 464XLAT CPE

Hi Paul, On 2022-10-24 14:48, Paul Bone wrote: I last looked at using 464XLAT two years ago, but there were very few CPE options. A quick hunt around the internet has kind of suggested this still to be the case. Is anyone out there using 464XLAT in anger and if so which CPE? Does it need to

Re: [uknof] Waste heat from data centres

On 22/05/2022 19:55, Paul Mansfield wrote: So on the subject alone: my boss at ~$job['0'] said his wife once asked him why they couldn't pump the heat generated by data centres into an old folks' home... To this day I can't think of anywhere in the UK that uses more heating. They're

Re: [uknof] Cisco 887VA "golden config" (for home)

On 16/05/2022 15:03, Tom Storey wrote: Might be about time to swap it out for something else. Ive been meaning to throw a Juniper box in, maybe this is just the motivation I need. :-) Incidentally, the Zen Fritz!box (7530 in my case) does an excellent job of identifying interference faults,

Re: [uknof] Out Of Band Management

On 05/05/2022 15:03, Giles Coochey wrote: Usually ADSL on a phone line, Cellular (4G) access in DCs is notoriously bad at many sites The OP was referring to field solutions, rather than data centres, and 4G LTE is a far safer bet than ADSL out there. ADSL does not have a long life

Re: [uknof] Thoughts on IETF "Unicast Use of the Formerly Reserved 127/8"?

On 21/11/2021 12:15, Brandon Butterworth wrote: > v4 was not scary at $10 a few years ago, $40 is getting more scary > and as supply dries up so it gets over $100 that's probably the ISPs > margin for the first year or more of service. +1 Even with address sharing** then the value of an IPv4

Re: [uknof] Some recollections from the MTV Europe Music Awards 1996

On 15/11/2021 12:27, Paul Mansfield wrote: > I'm sure some people watching the raw streams would have seen things > which would never have been broadcastable. I for one am far more concerned for those contestants. That is an incredible violation of their privacy. Even in a show such as that, you

Re: [uknof] UKNOF48 - What Will be Different?

On 03/11/2021 17:12, Tom Hill wrote: > I suspect it would be very pertinent to shout loudly and clearly, on > this list (as opposed to in a blog post) about the requirement to prove > your COVID-19 vaccination status as a condition of entry to the event. And yes, I realised afte

Re: [uknof] UKNOF48 - What Will be Different?

On 27/10/2021 15:52, Rebecca Class-Peter wrote: > Please let us know if you have any questions, or feedback. I suspect it would be very pertinent to shout loudly and clearly, on this list (as opposed to in a blog post) about the requirement to prove your COVID-19 vaccination status as a condition

Re: [uknof] Advice wanted regarding MSP changing leased line provider

On 07/10/2021 09:27, Simon Burke wrote: > We have 2 x /24 subnets and 2 /25 subnets (and no ipv6), but use a > massive 90'ish addresses. All assigned PA, so we would have to re-IP > address everything if VM would not port (BT alluded that this is > possible but doubtful). Yeah, 'porting' Provider

Re: [uknof] Age Old Question - Juniper vs Cisco

Hi Andy, On 27/07/2021 14:23, Andy Hunter wrote: > For us this is between Juniper MX480 / 960 Premium models vs Cisco ASR 9006. > > My question is twofold – What are other people using, and have you got > any gotchas to keep an eye out for, and, are we missing any other vendors. I'd be careful

Re: [uknof] Sending kit to European data centers

On 01/02/2021 16:20, Chris Russell wrote: >  Would anyone be interested in talking / being on said panel ? I would have strongly advocated to put Nick on the panel, but I really don't fancy the paperwork associated with importing him for the day. -- Tom

Re: [uknof] Use of VLAN ID 0

On 13/12/2020 19:55, Paul Bone wrote: > Has anyone made this work with Mikrotik routers? I have been testing but > pretty sure it cannot be done - but happy to be proved wrong! > Are there any other low cost CPEs that do support priority tagging? Ciena/ADVA probably have wee boxen that can do

Re: [uknof] Finding out future Openreach plans for a cabinet

On 07/10/2020 22:14, Paul Mansfield wrote: > If some thieves pull all the cabling out of the ground, which actually > happened near one of the newly FTTP'd villages in Cambridgeshire, would > OpenReach now replace it with fibre rather than relay copper? Speed to restore service > opportunistic

Re: [uknof] West coast main line

On 24/09/2020 22:07, Paul Cairney wrote: > Im sure other will have better recollections of the acquisition > history, but mine suggests the origin of these routes was > > Lumen < CenturyLink < Level3 < Global Crossings < Racal Telecom < BR > Telecommunications Yup, that's corroborated by my

Re: [uknof] Journey from zero to unbundled, and how to engage with Openreach

On 15/09/2020 12:15, Mick O'Donovan wrote: > Funny, I didn't realise I had the same affliction as Charlie until I > watched his UKNOF41 presentation just now... My family ridicule me > constantly for noticing the chamber covers. Don't worry Mick... When Charlie says "You've already answered

Re: [uknof] Journey from zero to unbundled, and how to engage with Openreach

On 12/09/2020 12:21, Simon Green wrote: > I've been through this journey over the last 3 years consuming almost > every openreach product along the way, and it's quite an eye opener, > even for those who buy through wholesale today.  Charlie Boisseau has done some talks on this theme over the

Re: [uknof] TTB Outage

On 18/08/2020 23:24, Peter Taphouse wrote: > RFO: The scene in Only Fools and Horses with the chandeliers? Like that > but with networks.  *Perfect* analogy. ;D -- Tom

Re: [uknof] TTB Outage

On 18/08/2020 13:47, Ben Wragg wrote: > It has highlighted that many carrier stating you have 'Diverse' routes > clearly don't! Sadly, "diverse routes" does not mean "diverse routers", and it doesn't preclude someone making a mistake when re-designing the network (as does periodically happen).

Re: [uknof] BT Peering Contact

On 10/08/2020 14:53, Matthew Mercer wrote: > Please can someone from BT who's able to look at peering please contact > me off list. Have replied to this offlist. /me eyes Mahtin's email with equal joy and concern ;D -- Tom

Re: [uknof] L2 Ethernet

On 28/07/2020 19:37, Kevin Titmarsh wrote: > Wasn't directed AT you, so the brushing off what you were saying isn't > what I was doing. it was a general comment which is where most of the > horror stories online come from.. Let me introduce you to a thing called email threading... ;) Again, I'd

Re: [uknof] L2 Ethernet

On 28/07/2020 19:11, kevin@wisp.engineer wrote: > To be fair alot of the horror stories are mostly due to misconfiguration > and mismanagement of the hardware.. Have you seen the presentation given in the video I'd linked? (You know, just before you brush off my reply as "misconfiguration and

Re: [uknof] test website with an IPv6 address

On 29/05/2020 16:10, Paul Mansfield wrote: > > http://ifconfig.co might satisfy you, works on both > http and https for ipv6, no redirect > > $ curl -6 http://ifconfig.co > 2a02:8011:401d:xx::yy > > $ curl -6 https://ifconfig.co > 2a02:8011:401d:xx::yy > > $ curl -4

Re: [uknof] 9pm data dip

On 12/05/2020 17:11, Greg Choules wrote: > However, allowing for the granularity of the various reporting > systems the dips do appear to be slipping later in the day, which > might fit with the sunset theory. Though given previous comments I'm > not completely convinced. Now, if you combine

Re: [uknof] Gratuitous nostalgic thread #12, 345 (was: Public IPv4 Addresses Required)

On 07/05/2020 14:13, Clive D.W. Feather wrote: > 1997 was the year when things moved from "what's a URL?" to every advert on > a tube train having a URL in it. You mean they'd finally ditched their AOL keywords?! -- Tom

Re: [uknof] Public IPv4 Addresses Required

On 06/05/2020 16:47, Pete Stevens wrote: > > The acquisition problem is overlapping RFC1918 space - and/or running > out in the new larger combined entity. I know people who've implemented > nested NAT and split horizon DNS so that each aqcuired company has a > different view of their internal

Re: [uknof] Public IPv4 Addresses Required

On 06/05/2020 16:20, Pete Stevens wrote: > Otherwise you'll eventually become worth buying by someone who can > reuse your space to do something more valuable. Right, you suggested that one would have to convince their shareholders of the business case for "never being acquired"? Shareholders

Re: [uknof] Public IPv4 Addresses Required

On 05/05/2020 13:24, Pete Stevens wrote: > I often wonder how you present the business case for never becoming huge > and never being acquired to the shareholders. You don't lose IPv4 addresses just because you aren't buying more... -- Tom

Re: [uknof] VM Network 27/04 since 5pm

On 30/04/2020 19:15, Chris Russell wrote: >  The stupid thing is, I've no problem with them using me as a guinea pig > and I can work around any issues, but I've had nothing whereas I can > feel back anything. Well.. That's one way of running a pilot: target the networkers*! -- Tom *In this

Re: [uknof] Public IPv4 Addresses Required

On 01/05/2020 09:20, Paul Bone wrote: > This is not accidental detraction, it is a view from real world > experience in the vertical markets that I work with which is mostly > SMEs. Notably, I also said "Several years is a long time". The problem is that when persons (whom I realise are

Re: [uknof] VM Network 27/04 since 5pm

On 29/04/2020 11:51, Chris Russell wrote: > Besides, VM have had some level of v6 on some of their connections for > yonks (including mine) That does not sound quite right based on the APNIC stats[1] at least. Did you get accepted into a pilot? [1]

Re: [uknof] Public IPv4 Addresses Required

On 27/04/2020 16:08, Paul Bone wrote: > Several years ago I did trial a whole manner of IPv4/IPv6 translation > solutions and at the time came to the conclusion that the best solution > was double stacking. Several years is a very long time in IPv6, and we here in this community need many more

Re: [uknof] [uknot] Videoconferencing

On 27/03/2020 08:58, Ray Bellis wrote: > dammit, that's what happens when you try to manually fix up a client > that doesn't default to "reply to list" Back! Back to the firey chasm from whence you came! -- Tom

Re: [uknof] Old routers to recycle / sell

On 26/09/2019 22:35, Mark Tinka wrote: > In practice, did the vendors actually pick them up from your inventory? Yes, yes they did. I suspect someone, somewhere will still be consuming parts for the those boxes, and so they're likely useful to the vendor. But part of me still wishes the vendor

Re: [uknof] Fibre / Wave provider in Manchester

On 28/06/2019 15:19, Edward Dore wrote: > I'd start with euNetworks, COLT and Gamma/The Loop as the most > reasonable from the available carriers. I would agree with that selection, and point out that 'City Of London Telecom' rebranded as 'Colt' (not 'COLT') some time ago. See also,

Re: [uknof] NetLdn 1

On 02/04/2019 09:49, James Bensley wrote: > Similar to the Manchester chapter As "chapter" implies the two events are in some way related, I should point out that this is not the case. Both 'organisations' are entirely separate. NetMcr's organisers have of course been fully supportive of NetLdn

Re: [uknof] Cisco NCS55xx in the wild?

On 26/03/2019 15:48, Leigh Harrison wrote: > Roughly 512 per NPU and it’s got a dual core Broadcom chipset, hence > the 1,000 ish queues. > > Also, it doesn’t seem to be able to take more than 64 different QoS > shape types per NPU either, so we’re limited to 128 different QoS > profiles per box.

Re: [uknof] Dark Fibre providers in London

On 08/02/2019 14:21, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > i highly doubt level3/cl would sell DF Actually, even as recently as 2017 they've been open to selling 'metro' DF. CL seemed to relax over the "no DF" stance that L3 held. I was advised that it might change again in the future. (Granted, this was

Re: [uknof] BT/EE and Vodafone - why the split?

On 07/02/2019 22:26, Gavin Henry wrote: > Does anyone have an insight as to why EE kicked Vodafone off their > network last Friday at 5pm? "kicked [them] off their network" in what context of network? -- Tom

Re: [uknof] IPv6 default on EE

On 21/11/2018 16:59, Catalin Dominte wrote: > Mr. Catalin Dominte > ;D -- Tom

Re: [uknof] Rackspace Telehouse North

On 18/07/18 16:13, Simon Jones wrote: I have 2 x 42U racks at Telehouse North if anyone is looking for some space? Message me for details, It's unlikely said rackspace isn't being offered for free, therefore: "UKNOF's mailing lists may not be used for promotion of commercial activities

Re: [uknof] virus in attachment from john.bou...@mobileinternet.com

On 04/07/18 12:40, Paul Mansfield wrote: > Did anyone else get this? And did anyone analyse the attachment? I did, and it was quite rightly classed as spam. I don't fancy trying to analyse the document. :) -- Tom

Re: [uknof] THN to THW cost effective ILK alternative for TTB NNI

On 02/07/18 14:00, Edward Dore wrote: Are you referring to the aborted sale of the B2B business to Dasiy? If so, AFAIK that was only the direct/retail B2B customers - the wholesale business was staying with TalkTalk. I was - my bad in that case, I thought it included wholesale. -- Tom Hill

Re: [uknof] THN to THW cost effective ILK alternative for TTB NNI

they are in Kilburn (Manchester). This is how we do it. Oh if only more of their Telehouse North customers thought about terminating their Northern customers closer to home...! :) -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Limited http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890

Re: [uknof] EXTERNAL:Re: BT Phone Number renumbering

that once already...? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_number_mapping -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Limited http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890

Re: [uknof] Is the PI cupboard bare ?

d-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/listing Regards, -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 (0) 1904 890 890

Re: [uknof] Juniper MX204/MX10003

uff for that very reason. -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Limited http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [uknof] Juniper MX204/MX10003

On 06/03/18 16:20, Neil J. McRae wrote: > Indeed this is why we are a Nokia shop - Best platform on the market by > a mile.  *tumbleweed rolls past* Who? -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Limited http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 signature.asc Description: O

Re: [uknof] 10G PE Router Options

features - that you might want to avoid paying for. Kind regards, -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Limited http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [uknof] 'White Box' switching and OS - Any experiences worth sharing?

tomation you decide to achieve. This will save you from those 'server guys' editing text files thinking it's identical to Debian config (hint: it isn't, it's much improved.) -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Limited http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [uknof] GTT account management

t be a US mail server. Reply language is en-US, but could it just be the default. *shrug* Does it matter? As it stands I've just carried-on dealing with the GTT employee that you may have met at recent UKNOF meetings, and this still appears to work. :) Regards, -- Tom Hill Network Manager

Re: [uknof] Juniper SRX Available

ady. Though I'd not object to it if UKNOF wanted to go ahead and take that on, I would imagine it would lose its allure if the seller couldn't spam the UK's operators with one email. -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 signature.asc Desc

Re: [uknof] Juniper SRX Available

s what I object to the UKNOF community's mailing list being (ab)used for. We get all get far too much sales spam as it is, and as far as I'm concerned, this is the last place that I want to receive it. -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 8

Re: [uknof] Juniper SRX Available

'd like to sell on, but the noise generated if everyone started doing the same would be intolerable. If they are free to a good home, please do correct the original post. I imagine your arm will be thoroughly ripped-off, too. -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +

Re: [uknof] LACP on Openreach EAD RA02

$job-2. *waves hands* If your devices at either end support L2PT for LACP, you might be able to make it work transparently to the EAD endpoints _but_ I'm fairly sure if it fails at any point, you'll be on your own support-wise. :) -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.byte

Re: [uknof] UKNOF38 I feel like curry tonight?

a wee while in The Wellington, a little further beyond that. Excellent beer on, nice place. And it's rare to find a whisky selection like theirs. :) -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [uknof] Equinix MA1 (Williams/Kilburn) - Any racks going?

On 31/08/17 11:33, Gareth Bryan wrote: > We're *ideally* after 2 adjoining racks in "MA1" (Williams/Kilburn) - > or failing that, a single rack in what was Williams. Hopefully you've asked Equinix? I've heard rumour of a waiting list... :) -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytem

Re: [uknof] Fibre to remote areas

re Manchester city centre was coated with FTTC cabinets that weren't serving MDUs <100m away, and Hyperoptic have been doing rather well connecting those buildings with something more than ADSL2+. It's played rather well into their hands. -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.b

Re: [uknof] Fibre to remote areas

*certain* that it isn't Openreach that are difficult to deal with, rather than the landlords? -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [uknof] 1/4 Rack in Equinix Joule House

illing it with quarters and halves). But instead of speculating, generally you do find that the OP had a specific reason to ask about the DC they did - hence there aren't a flurry of "why that DC? Why not this DC?" responses. :) -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark

Re: [uknof] Article: "IPv6 update: A look at the security and privacy improvements"

On 14/06/17 14:54, Fernando Gont wrote: > You can scroll down and read the whole article even without registering Why should we read this? "FYI" doesn't quite cut it on a public mailing list... :/ -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44

Re: [uknof] Hosting Firewall Advice

my competitors to use it.) -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [uknof] Hosting Firewall Advice

On 02/06/17 15:02, James Bensley wrote: > virtual m0n0wawll boxes per customer m0n0wall was discontinued, and its replacement - OPNSense - is a far cry from the lovely, lightweight release that was m0n0wall. I'm very sad to see the end of it! -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting h

Re: [uknof] Example of total DC loss

the building. Someone commented (at the > time) somebody “put their foot in it” – quite literally, in badly > managed fibre alongside one of the ODFs and ripped a bunch out. This bodes well for DFA! -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 89

Re: [uknof] Virgin Media fibre expansion

On 01/06/17 09:11, Chris Russell wrote: > On 01/06/2017 09:00, Catalin Dominte wrote: >> Are we past Hyper yet? Or Supersonic? > > I'm a fan of 'Tremendous'. Clearly, none of you have played Unreal Tournament in a while. 'MONSTER FAST!' -- Tom

Re: [uknof] CoLo - Coventry

6DG in Studleigh? (Or Digbeth, in fact). -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [uknof] Easynet / HE (maybe SixXS?) issue

y similar issue that I had with IPv6 from Easynet in Germany, recently. Drop me a mail offlist and we'll compare output... I got some way to finding a responsive contact, but it's all disappeared into a black hole as it stands; if it's related, it would be worth joining forces. :) Regards, --

Re: [uknof] IPv6 adoption approaching 16% in UK

t (shouldn't) be on Netflix or Youtube whilst in the meeting hall. :) -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [uknof] IPv6 adoption approaching 16% in UK

happen to be our customers are going to be among the exceptions to this, I'd expect - so thank you all. If I can help you add some records on a Bytemark service, please let me know offlist. :)) -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890

[uknof] NetMcr #7, 12th January

Hello, tl;dr: NetMcr, 12th Jan, good social, please submit talks. When: Thursday 12th January, 2016 Where: 57 Thomas Street, Manchester (the room upstairs) Time: 19:00 sharp, until ~22:00 (bar open until midnight!) Cost: Nil We're aiming to provide a regular, friendly

[uknof] NetMcr #6, 8th December

Hello, tl;dr: NetMcr, 8th December, good social, please submit talks. When: Thursday 8th December, 2016 Where: 57 Thomas Street, Manchester (the room upstairs) Time: 19:00 sharp, until ~22:00 (bar open until midnight!) Cost: Nil We're aiming to provide a regular, friendly

Re: [uknof] UK IPv6 Council meeting - slides and video available

ds - it's great for those of us that couldn't attend in person. -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [uknof] IPv6 adoption approaching 16% in UK

peering team don't like - in which case I'd be happy to bake the prerequisite IPv6 peering cake. :) -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 (0) 1904 890 890

Re: [uknof] IPv6 adoption approaching 16% in UK

On 07/11/16 19:43, Neil J. McRae wrote: > Come on TalkTalk!! It's just you guys left!! What's the date?! Out of interest, what sort of coverage is BT up to now? You're aiming for full availability by the end of April 2017, right? -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting h

Re: [uknof] NetMcr #5, 10th November

On 01/11/16 01:50, Tom Hill wrote: >When: Thursday 10th October, 2016 > Where: 57 Thomas Street, Manchester (the bar upstairs) >Time: 19:00 - 22:00 (the venue stays open until midnight) >Cost: Nil Oopsie, that should be Thursday 10th of November 2016, as per

[uknof] NetMcr #5, 10th November

Hello UKNOF, As is now tradition, NetMcr will be on the 2nd Thursday again! When: Thursday 10th October, 2016 Where: 57 Thomas Street, Manchester (the bar upstairs) Time: 19:00 - 22:00 (the venue stays open until midnight) Cost: Nil We're aiming to provide a regular,

Re: [uknof] Cisco IPv6 NTP on access point

On 29/10/16 23:14, Chris Russell wrote: > That's been true for quite a while ... Cisco datasheets I now treat as > more a generic "might" over "will" guide, plus there is often confusing > terminology. I was really just referring to IPv6/IPv4 feature parity, tbf. But, I'm sure there are

Re: [uknof] Cisco IPv6 NTP on access point

On 24/10/16 23:11, Tom Bird wrote: > I've got some Cisco 3502i access points which are running an up to date > standalone image, and I've given them all IPv6 only addresses for > management as they are a purely layer 2 device and shouldn't need a v4 > address so why bother. My experience with

[uknof] NetMcr #4, 13th October

Hello UKNOF, As is now tradition, NetMcr will be on the 2nd Thursday again! When: Thursday 13th October, 2016 Where: 57 Thomas Street, Manchester (the bar upstairs) Time: 19:00 - ~21:30 (the venue stays open until midnight) Cost: Nil We're aiming to provide a regular,

[uknof] NetMcr #3

Hello UKNOF, For those of you in & around Manchester and *not* attending UKNOF next week, NetMcr will be running on the 2nd Thursday as normal: When: Thursday 8th September, 2016 Where: 57 Thomas Street, Manchester (the bar upstairs) Time: 19:00 - ~21:30 (the venue stays open until

[uknof] Whisky!

Right, now that I've got your attention... Would anyone be interested in popping along to the Auchentoshan distillery, North West of Glasgow? Google maps: https://goo.gl/maps/cT6QsPpBDKT2 Disclaimer: I'm not organising anything, nor sponsoring it, but if anyone fancies a few wee drams we can

Re: [uknof] MTP Single Mode cables - Wanted

hernet begets a new generation of MMF. Wouldn't it be better if we didn't have multi-mode standards any more? - -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXvDgdAAoJEH2fKbrp2sQ6

Re: [uknof] IOS XR tcpdump

the boxes. But not if you're running Typhoon. :) - -- Tom Hill Network Manager Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXtFnNAAoJEH2fKbrp2sQ6d8YIAMK6W57tyVfkipdjHH7A5FLD n

[uknof] NetMcr #2

Hello UKNOF, Following on from the great success of NetMcr's inaugural event, which was very well attended by the community, we're rolling on with our 2nd event as planned. When: Thursday 11th August, 2016 Where: 57 Thomas Street, Manchester (the bar upstairs) Time: 19:00 - ~21:30

Re: [uknof] An invitation to NetMcr #1

NOF. :) - -- Tom Hill Network Engineer Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXaB7aAAoJEH2fKbrp2sQ6Dx8H/2n9HygAuwcQPG6whO1IoXsf 6p+SWDW/IfxI8T5PJMG/hcHKLsZNlfa+hNNqNd/sLIGHYI9wKyZsEPBe6KycSyI7 izzKDbtwHZGlCO6zv

Re: [uknof] An invitation to NetMcr #1

On 20/06/16 00:39, Tom Hill wrote: > it is hoped that we will be able to run this every third Thursday of > the month. Second Thursday, *second* Thursday of the month. It's like I don't even proof read... :) -- Tom

Re: [uknof] Peering with Limelight Networks

orever. Particularly football World/Euro Cups, and the Olympics . Talking of which, Rio 2016 starts in August... :) - -- Tom Hill Network Engineer Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXZBiXAAoJEH2fKbrp2sQ68T8H/0G

Re: [uknof] Peering with Limelight Networks

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 17/06/16 16:20, Martin J. Levy wrote: > So ... what is your ASN? Inquiring minds want to know. letmepeeringdbthatforyou.com should really exist. ;D -> https://www.peeringdb.com/net/8027 - -- Tom Hill Network Engineer Bytemark Hostin

Re: [uknof] Peering with Limelight Networks

s and pre-empts the streaming of major sporting events in the future. - -- Tom Hill Network Engineer Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXZAiJAAoJEH2fKbrp2sQ694IH/RvroMnB34t7t45

Re: [uknof] Virgin Media in Pulsant Maidenhead 2 (Bluesquare)

ely to be aware of the correct incantations to use when dealing with VM. - -- Tom Hill Network Engineer Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXWpP9AAoJEH2fKbrp2sQ6bh4H/A5RSKVut

Re: [uknof] IOS Mail App (was Re: vendor-neutral json representation of firewall rules...)

; inline PGP messages. I've turned that off for now and will see what > everything makes of it now. *moo* - -- Tom Hill Network Engineer Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXVtXXAAoJEH2fKbrp2s

Re: [uknof] vendor-neutral json representation of firewall rules...

unk of the industry seems to be converging on YANG for automation of network hardware, so that might be your best bet. (I am *not* an expert on this subject matter; I will defer to someone that's actually used it and tells us that it's rubbish...) - -- Tom Hill Network Engineer Bytemark Hosting h

Re: [uknof] IPv6 usage explosion

ures that indicate far more traffic by volume to these sites - and with IPv4 in decline. It also speaks to what Neil's said elsewhere in the thread; use of IPv6 doesn't yet remove your requirement for IPv4, and thus extending v4's life (eg. CGN) and implementing IPv6 are concurrent problems to sol

Re: [uknof] IPv6 usage explosion

in this area. There were definitely better options back in 2012 - even OpenBSD would've done a better job, where feature parity is concerned anyway. - -- Tom Hill Network Engineer Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Versi

Re: [uknof] IPv6 usage explosion

o, easier > without than with. I think it's the lack of external IPv6 that makes their decision to use IPv6-only internally a pretty weird idea in the first place. Whilst I'm glad someone's tried it, it's not overly representative of the dual-stack environment that Sky is rolling to their customers

Re: [uknof] IPv6 usage explosion

on. Where they running IPv6-only here on this LAN? Surely dual-stack wouldn't have been an issue with regards to AWS? - -- Tom Hill Network Engineer Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

Re: [uknof] IPv6 usage explosion

t it over the last 12 months, most recently at LINX, and prior to that UKNOF in London if I recall correctly. See: http://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/ for more figures. :) - -- Tom Hill Network Engineer Bytemark Hosting http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 1904 890 890 -BEGIN PGP

Re: [uknof] Virginmedia

on. Based on what you've said above, I'd hazard a guess that this is now the "official" method. It's a shame, but it's not entirely surprising at this point. Prerequisite reading: http://www.libertyglobal.com/oo-bs-ip-interconnection-portfolio.html - -- Tom Hill Network Engineer By

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