Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Alex Leonhardt]

+1 for this one ! :) am actually just having a issue using templates across
DCs


On 14 January 2013 17:56, Jim Kinney  wrote:

>
> I would also like to see the ability to share template storage across all
> datacenters seamlessly.
>
> Sharing the templates between multiple datacenters would extremely useful
> especially as long as the stand-alone hosts are in their own datacenter.
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Jim Kinney]

I would also like to see the ability to share template storage across all
datacenters seamlessly.

Sharing the templates between multiple datacenters would extremely useful
especially as long as the stand-alone hosts are in their own datacenter.

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Sigbjorn Lie]

On 01/03/2013 05:08 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

Hi Everyone,

as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they 
find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see 
improved/added in coming versions?


Thanks,
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I would also like to see single sign on capabilities (Kerberos) on the 
WebAdmin and UserPortal when using IPA as authentication source.



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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Itamar Heim]

On 01/03/2013 11:26 PM, Alexandru Vladulescu wrote:


I would like to add a request for the new upper coming version 3.2 if
possible:


Hi Alexandru,

just to note my question was for the post 3.2 version, as 3.2 is 
basically done.




Although some of you use spice instead of VNC, as I am an Ubuntu user on
my desktop and laptop, spice protocol is not working withing my OS; even
if I tried to build it from source, search unofficial deb packs or
convert if from rpm packages. I know spice is strongly supported on the
Fedora community, but I, myself on the server side work on RH Enterprise
and Centos, but as for desktop use, I have a very hard time make the
spice plugin for firefox to work.

Therefore for my solution I had setup a VNC reflector + some shell
automation to make it work between 2 different subnets (one inside and
one outside) -- this, somehow, adding to the initial scope.

This would have been much more easier to have a VNC proxy inside the
ovirt engine function, from where to make the necessary setups and
assignments of the console to each VM, or even though I might sound
funny to make a solution as vrde on Vbox, because works damn great and
it's easy to setup or change.

Last question, If I might ask, when is the 3.2 planned to be released
(aprox)


last update was here:
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/011454.html

Thanks,
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Trey Dockendorf]

On Jan 3, 2013 4:15 PM, "Moran Goldboim"  wrote:
>
> On 01/03/2013 07:42 PM, Darrell Budic wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:
>>
>>> On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:

 Hi Everyone,


 as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they

 find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see

 improved/added in coming versions?


 Thanks,

Itamar
>>>
>>>
>>> For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6. According to
>>> the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's packages.
>>
>>
>> I'm going to second this strongly! Official support would be very much
appreciated. Bonus points for supporting a migration from the dreyou
packages. No offense to dreyou, of course, just rather be better supported
by the official line on Centos 6.x.
>
>
> EL6 rpms are planned to be delivered with 3.2 GA version, and nightly
builds from there on.
> hopefully we can push it to 3.2 beta.
>
> Moran.
>
>>
>>
>> Better support/integration of windows based SPICE clients would also be
much appreciated, I have many end users on Windows, and it's been a chore
to keep it working so far. This includes the client drivers for windows VMs
to support the SPICE display for multiple displays. More of a client side
thing, I know, but a desired feature in my environment.
>>
>> Thanks for the continued progress and support as well!
>>
>> -
>> Darrell Budic
>> Zenfire
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Will the EL6 releases also include an EL6 version of ovirt-node?  If not
will the build dependencies for ovirt node be available to allow for custom
node iso builds?

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Joern Ott]

Hey Sigbjorn,

I currently use a cluster of two "management nodes" with a classical 
corosync/pacemaker/drbd setup which also provides DNS, DHCP, TFTP, all 
repositories we need to install our VMs and the central configuration 
management.
We have a failover IP  (and hostname) and our cluster makes sure that all 
databases/services which need to be kept together are running on one host.

However, setting up something like this is a quite complex process, so having a 
postgresql cluster (at least with postgres 9+) is not too difficult to set up 
and then having a redundant engine cluster would be a perfect solution.

KR
Jörn

> -Original Message-
> From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On Behalf
> Of Sigbjorn Lie
> Sent: Mittwoch, 9. Januar 2013 12:33
> To: Itamar Heim
> Cc: users
> Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
> 
> 
> On Thu, January 3, 2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> >
> > as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
> > find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see improved/added
> in coming versions?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> +1 for clustered ovirt manager for availability.
> 
> I've seen a pdf document describing how to configure Red Hat Cluster and
> GFS with RHEV-M, but I feel Red Hat Cluster and GFS adds too much
> complexity compared to what is required for ovirt manager.
> 
> Perhaps the use of glusterfs and keepalived (http://www.keepalived.org/)
> would be sufficient to create an easy to configure ovirt manager failover
> cluster?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Siggi
> 
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Patrick Hurrelmann]

On 09.01.2013 15:48, Joern Ott wrote:
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On Behalf
>> Of Rick Beldin
>> Sent: Dienstag, 8. Januar 2013 15:54
>> To: Itamar Heim
>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
>> Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue 08 Jan 2013 04:41:01 AM EST, Itamar Heim wrote:
>>> On 01/07/2013 06:11 PM, Rick Beldin wrote:
>>>> - cleaner work-flow in creating and associating storage, especially
>>>> NFS
>>>>
>>
>> Some of this is no doubt my newbie-ness to ovirt.  Most of my comments
>> below have to do with the manager.
>>
>> I started playing with RHEV 3.1 since I am responsible for delivering support
>> on it but just yesterday started playing with Fedora 17 and all-in-one for 
>> ease
>> of setup.  I will try and document the specifics, but the things I recall 
>> were
>> things like:
>>
>> - inability to setup NFS storage on the cluster until I had added a host.  I 
>> think
>>   I missed some key concept here, but my feeling was that I
>> would/could/should
>>   setup the manager (engine) first and then add virtual hosts.
>> Instead, there
>>   seems to be a procedural step.
>>
>> - along those lines the UI could do more to guide a user, a first-time wizard
>>   that would guide you through cluster and datacenter setups that are
>> independent
>>   of the hosts.  Guide Me is a good start, but perhaps it needs some
>> expansion.
>>
>>>> - better error reporting from engine back to admin user during admin
>>>> operations.
>>>
>>
>> - here's an example.  Just installed AIO on Fedora 17.  After going through
>>   everything, it says 'Install Failed'.   The Event entry has a
>> correlation id,
>>   which can be used to figure out what went wrong.  (I guess).  It seems like
>>   there could be more information provided to the admin on what to do next
>> aside
>>   install again?  Tooltip on what to do with correlation id? 
> 
> Whenever you report a problem here in the list, you get asked for engine and 
> vdsm logs. So, these logs are essential and a way to access (at least the 
> relevant parts) via the GUI would be perfect. Ideally, every task should have 
> a unique ID and this ID should show up in the engine logs as well as the vdsm 
> logs on the nodes in a way that they could easily filtered.
> 
> My dream would be a message like "Install failed" as a clickable link which 
> then opens a log viewer and shows the engine log filtered by this ID as well 
> as the vdsm log from the involved node filtered by this ID.
> 
> Kind regards
> Jörn

Very good idea, I like it very much!

Regards
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Joern Ott]

> -Original Message-
> From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On Behalf
> Of Rick Beldin
> Sent: Dienstag, 8. Januar 2013 15:54
> To: Itamar Heim
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue 08 Jan 2013 04:41:01 AM EST, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > On 01/07/2013 06:11 PM, Rick Beldin wrote:
> >> - cleaner work-flow in creating and associating storage, especially
> >> NFS
> >>
> 
> Some of this is no doubt my newbie-ness to ovirt.  Most of my comments
> below have to do with the manager.
> 
> I started playing with RHEV 3.1 since I am responsible for delivering support
> on it but just yesterday started playing with Fedora 17 and all-in-one for 
> ease
> of setup.  I will try and document the specifics, but the things I recall were
> things like:
> 
> - inability to setup NFS storage on the cluster until I had added a host.  I 
> think
>   I missed some key concept here, but my feeling was that I
> would/could/should
>   setup the manager (engine) first and then add virtual hosts.
> Instead, there
>   seems to be a procedural step.
> 
> - along those lines the UI could do more to guide a user, a first-time wizard
>   that would guide you through cluster and datacenter setups that are
> independent
>   of the hosts.  Guide Me is a good start, but perhaps it needs some
> expansion.
> 
> >> - better error reporting from engine back to admin user during admin
> >> operations.
> >
> 
> - here's an example.  Just installed AIO on Fedora 17.  After going through
>   everything, it says 'Install Failed'.   The Event entry has a
> correlation id,
>   which can be used to figure out what went wrong.  (I guess).  It seems like
>   there could be more information provided to the admin on what to do next
> aside
>   install again?  Tooltip on what to do with correlation id? 

Whenever you report a problem here in the list, you get asked for engine and 
vdsm logs. So, these logs are essential and a way to access (at least the 
relevant parts) via the GUI would be perfect. Ideally, every task should have a 
unique ID and this ID should show up in the engine logs as well as the vdsm 
logs on the nodes in a way that they could easily filtered.

My dream would be a message like "Install failed" as a clickable link which 
then opens a log viewer and shows the engine log filtered by this ID as well as 
the vdsm log from the involved node filtered by this ID.

>  Oddly,
> I can't
>   right click on Event text to bring up copy/paste menu with Chrome or FF.
> Ctrl-c
>   worked with Chrome but not FF:
> 
> Host local_host installation failed. The required action is taking longer than
> allowed by configuration. Verify host networking and storage settings..
> 
>   That gives you a clue, but then what? A handy pointer to the log file would
>   be good.
> 
> - Eons ago, in another product space, a complex product with hooks into
> networking
>   and whatnot had a tiny diagnostic script that would attempt to emulate the
>   requirements of the product.  Perhaps that is needed here - something
> outside
>   of the framework that could be a checklist of ports not open, permissions,
> etc.
>   Things that an admin needs to address outside of engine.
> 
> - A menu item that would call the sosreport-like thing to collect data would
> aid
>   in supportability.
> 
> - A meta-page with pointers/contents to all logs, databases and so forth
> would
>   be helpful.  There is a lot of content scattered over the disk.
> 
> - A meta-page with a listing of critical processes.
> 
> Some of these things are doubtless outside the scope of abstraction that is
> currently there, but the manager is the connection between the admin and
> the hosts.  As a critical resource the admin will likely not only be the one
> administering to guests, but to the engine as well.   Making that
> person's
> life easier will aid in acceptance and reduce long-term support costs.
> 
> My 2cents...
> 
> Rick
> 
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Marcelo Barbosa]

Siggi,

   As far as my knowledge reaches, I believe the engine off does not
interfere with us, or you will lose HA and other resources, and if we all
just outside the world: D so the engine will not help much, I think, good
test for all.


Rgds.

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On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Sigbjorn Lie  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> What will happen in case of a shutdown of all nodes and both ovirt-engine
> vm's?
>
> Will the nodes be able to start it's virtual machines without a connection
> to the ovirt-engine?
>
>
> Rgds,
> Siggi
>
>
>
> On Wed, January 9, 2013 13:27, Marcelo Barbosa wrote:
> > Siggi,
> >
> >
> > Great idea is running this oVIrt-engine to two or more vm's in to oVirt,
> > example:
> >
> >
> > * Install 2 nodes or more and running oVirt-engine provisory in laptop,
> > for example, after create 2 vm's HA for permanent engine virtualized and
> HA.
> >
> > Only suggestion.
> >
> >
> > Marcelo Barbosa
> > *mr.marcelo.barb...@gmail.com*
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Sigbjorn Lie 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Thu, January 3, 2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Everyone,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
> >> find good/useful in oVirt,
> >>> and what they would like to see improved/added in coming versions?
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >> +1 for clustered ovirt manager for availability.
> >>
> >>
> >> I've seen a pdf document describing how to configure Red Hat Cluster and
> >> GFS with RHEV-M, but I
> >> feel Red Hat Cluster and GFS adds too much complexity compared to what
> is required for ovirt
> >> manager.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the use of glusterfs and keepalived (http://www.keepalived.org/
> )
> >> would be sufficient to create an easy to configure ovirt manager
> failover cluster?
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Siggi
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Sigbjorn Lie]

Hi,

What will happen in case of a shutdown of all nodes and both ovirt-engine vm's?

Will the nodes be able to start it's virtual machines without a connection to 
the ovirt-engine?


Rgds,
Siggi



On Wed, January 9, 2013 13:27, Marcelo Barbosa wrote:
> Siggi,
>
>
> Great idea is running this oVIrt-engine to two or more vm's in to oVirt,
> example:
>
>
> * Install 2 nodes or more and running oVirt-engine provisory in laptop,
> for example, after create 2 vm's HA for permanent engine virtualized and HA.
>
> Only suggestion.
>
>
> Marcelo Barbosa
> *mr.marcelo.barb...@gmail.com*
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Sigbjorn Lie  wrote:
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, January 3, 2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
>> find good/useful in oVirt,
>>> and what they would like to see improved/added in coming versions?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> +1 for clustered ovirt manager for availability.
>>
>>
>> I've seen a pdf document describing how to configure Red Hat Cluster and
>> GFS with RHEV-M, but I
>> feel Red Hat Cluster and GFS adds too much complexity compared to what is 
>> required for ovirt
>> manager.
>>
>> Perhaps the use of glusterfs and keepalived (http://www.keepalived.org/)
>> would be sufficient to create an easy to configure ovirt manager failover 
>> cluster?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Siggi
>>
>>
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Marcelo Barbosa]

Siggi,

   Great idea is running this oVIrt-engine to two or more vm's in to oVirt,
example:

   * Install 2 nodes or more and running oVirt-engine provisory in laptop,
for example, after create 2 vm's HA for permanent engine virtualized and HA.

  Only suggestion.

Marcelo Barbosa
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On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Sigbjorn Lie  wrote:

>
> On Thu, January 3, 2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> >
> > as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
> find good/useful in oVirt,
> > and what they would like to see improved/added in coming versions?
>
> Hi,
>
> +1 for clustered ovirt manager for availability.
>
> I've seen a pdf document describing how to configure Red Hat Cluster and
> GFS with RHEV-M, but I
> feel Red Hat Cluster and GFS adds too much complexity compared to what is
> required for ovirt
> manager.
>
> Perhaps the use of glusterfs and keepalived (http://www.keepalived.org/)
> would be sufficient to
> create an easy to configure ovirt manager failover cluster?
>
>
> Regards,
> Siggi
>
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Sigbjorn Lie]

On Thu, January 3, 2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
>
> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they find 
> good/useful in oVirt,
> and what they would like to see improved/added in coming versions?

Hi,

+1 for clustered ovirt manager for availability.

I've seen a pdf document describing how to configure Red Hat Cluster and GFS 
with RHEV-M, but I
feel Red Hat Cluster and GFS adds too much complexity compared to what is 
required for ovirt
manager.

Perhaps the use of glusterfs and keepalived (http://www.keepalived.org/) would 
be sufficient to
create an easy to configure ovirt manager failover cluster?


Regards,
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Eli Mesika]

Maybe in order to get all those suggestions well managed and voted by the 
community, we shell integrate in the oVirt web site something like
http://demo.ideatorrent.org/


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> From: "Itamar Heim" 
> To: "Alex Leonhardt" 
> Cc: "oVirt Mailing List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:59:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
> 
> On 01/08/2013 04:42 PM, Alex Leonhardt wrote:
> > Thats true, so nvm - forget my request :) ...
> >
> >
> > In general, how about a poll form that could be sent to the list ?
> > it'll
> > make it very easy to spot what is most important for "us" users :)
> > ?
> > e.g. use http://www.easypolls.net/ ?
> 
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Itamar Heim]

On 01/08/2013 04:42 PM, Alex Leonhardt wrote:

Thats true, so nvm - forget my request :) ...


In general, how about a poll form that could be sent to the list ? it'll
make it very easy to spot what is most important for "us" users :) ?
e.g. use http://www.easypolls.net/ ?


that's the plan
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Rick Beldin]

On Tue 08 Jan 2013 04:41:01 AM EST, Itamar Heim wrote:
> On 01/07/2013 06:11 PM, Rick Beldin wrote:
>> - cleaner work-flow in creating and associating storage, especially NFS
>>

Some of this is no doubt my newbie-ness to ovirt.  Most of my comments 
below
have to do with the manager.

I started playing with RHEV 3.1 since I am responsible for delivering 
support on it but just yesterday started playing with Fedora 17 and 
all-in-one for ease of setup.  I will try and document the specifics, 
but the things I recall were things like:

- inability to setup NFS storage on the cluster until I had added a 
host.  I think
  I missed some key concept here, but my feeling was that I 
would/could/should
  setup the manager (engine) first and then add virtual hosts.  
Instead, there
  seems to be a procedural step.

- along those lines the UI could do more to guide a user, a first-time 
wizard
  that would guide you through cluster and datacenter setups that are 
independent
  of the hosts.  Guide Me is a good start, but perhaps it needs some 
expansion.

>> - better error reporting from engine back to admin user during admin
>> operations.
>

- here's an example.  Just installed AIO on Fedora 17.  After going 
through
  everything, it says 'Install Failed'.   The Event entry has a 
correlation id,
  which can be used to figure out what went wrong.  (I guess).  It 
seems like
  there could be more information provided to the admin on what to do 
next aside
  install again?  Tooltip on what to do with correlation id?   Oddly,  
I can't
  right click on Event text to bring up copy/paste menu with Chrome or 
FF. Ctrl-c
  worked with Chrome but not FF:

Host local_host installation failed. The required action is taking 
longer than allowed by configuration. Verify host networking and 
storage settings..

  That gives you a clue, but then what? A handy pointer to the log file 
would
  be good.

- Eons ago, in another product space, a complex product with hooks into 
networking
  and whatnot had a tiny diagnostic script that would attempt to 
emulate the
  requirements of the product.  Perhaps that is needed here - something 
outside
  of the framework that could be a checklist of ports not open, 
permissions, etc.
  Things that an admin needs to address outside of engine.

- A menu item that would call the sosreport-like thing to collect data 
would aid
  in supportability.

- A meta-page with pointers/contents to all logs, databases and so 
forth would
  be helpful.  There is a lot of content scattered over the disk.

- A meta-page with a listing of critical processes.

Some of these things are doubtless outside the scope of abstraction 
that is
currently there, but the manager is the connection between the admin 
and the
hosts.  As a critical resource the admin will likely not only be the one
administering to guests, but to the engine as well.   Making that 
person's
life easier will aid in acceptance and reduce long-term support costs.

My 2cents...

Rick


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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Alex Leonhardt]

Thats true, so nvm - forget my request :) ...


In general, how about a poll form that could be sent to the list ? it'll
make it very easy to spot what is most important for "us" users :) ? e.g.
use http://www.easypolls.net/ ?

Alex



2013/1/7 René Koch (ovido) 

> Hi Alex,
>
> You can already group VMs using tags or search filters...
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> René
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 09:16 +, Alex Leonhardt wrote:
> > Also, grouping (folders?) of VMs would be great to get a better
> > overview in the "Virtual Machines" section.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/7 Patrick Hurrelmann 
> > On 03.01.2013 17:25, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:
> > > On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > >> Hi Everyone,
> > >>
> > >> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on
> > what they
> > >> find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
> > >> improved/added in coming versions?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Itamar
> > >
> > > For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6.
> > According to
> > > the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's
> > packages.
> > >
> > > But I'm really looking forward to oVirt 3.2 (reading all
> > those commit
> > > whets my appetite) :)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Patrick
> >
> >
> > And after thinking a bit more about it, this is what I like to
> > see in
> > addition:
> > - clustered engine (eliminate this SPOF)
> > - when FreeIPA is used for authentication, make use of its CA
> > and
> > generate certificates using ipa-getcert
> >
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Itamar Heim]

On 01/07/2013 06:11 PM, Rick Beldin wrote:

- cleaner work-flow in creating and associating storage, especially NFS

- better error reporting from engine back to admin user during admin operations.


Hi Rick,

can you please give a few examples/ideas on these two?

thanks,
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Rick Beldin]

Several topics come to mind:

- cleaner work-flow in creating and associating storage, especially NFS

- better error reporting from engine back to admin user during admin operations.

- the ability to have users access consoles of virtual machines whereever
  they may be.  I think it should be expected that limited access data centers
  will be everywhere, from complete NAT'd environments to some with external
  firewalls that limit some ports.   This should be part of engine and
  hypervisor installation, and transparent to the end user.


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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Karli Sjöberg]

A general +1 for every point basically. Very good and thought through points. 
The ones I like the most are:

* Spice client- and plugin for Firefox on Windows and Ubuntu
* Preferrably working through both Admin- and User(customer) portal;)
* Guest Agent for Windows. Most of our VMs are Win2008- and R2, 2012's are 
coming too.
* Host Profiles would be a time saver
* Resource Pools
* Clone VM's
* Resizing VM disks from GUI
* Upload ISO's from GUI
* Integrate virt-v2v into GUI
* Edit VM settings before import

Also I would like to make a wish of my own:
* Time-share scheduling.
- The ability to "rent out" resources available only during N window of time 
for different groups of users. Our users tend to only need resource capacity in 
batches, crunching their numbers or whatnot during an intence period of time 
and can be quiet for a while, then come back for some more. That´s why I would 
like to see an interface where we as an organization could pool together our 
metal into oVirt and then together sit down and schedule it so that everyone 
gets their pice of the cake, so to speak. E.g. Group X rents 64 vCPU's and 4TB 
RAM from 20130601 to 20130801, during which time they are guaranteed those 
resources, and then those machines will expire and be automatically deleted, 
freeing up those resources again. Something like that would make collaboration 
between our different groups much easier.

Best Regards and Happy New Year!
/Karli Sjöberg


fre 2013-01-04 klockan 12:11 +0100 skrev René Koch (ovido):


Hi,

First of all thanks for starting this discussion.

My feedback is mainly based on RHEV, as I'm using RHEV in our company
and on customer side. oVirt is cool as I can see what new features next
RHEV version may/will bring and what issues other users have with this
technology.

What I like:
* web based UI
* KVM as it brings the highest virtualization performance on the market
* RHEL/Fedora as a hypervisor for more flexibility
* tags and bookmarks with search filters - great for big installations
* server and desktop virtualization can be done with one gui
* open source of course ;)
* hook scripts - sooo cool!
* rest-api
* user portal - some of our customers use this as a basic cloud tool for
providing vms and self-provisioning features with accounting using
postgresql database

What I would like to see in future release in oVirt and after testing in
RHEV (most of these points are based on customer feedback, too, who
bought RHEV or where we had at least a pre-sales appointment):

* Spice-XPI for Firefox on Windows (and maybe Ubuntu):
I know it's a lot of work to build it for every new firefox version, but
providing it for Firefox LTS would be a really good start. At the moment
Internet Explorer ist required for full use of admin und user portal (or
VNC has to be used).

* ovirt-guest-agents for major Linux distributions:
- openSUSE
- SLES
- Ubuntu
- Debian

* Virtualize ovirt-engine on ovirt hosts
I know that this would require major changes due to how oVirt works
(libvirt and vdsm), but nearly every customers is asking: why can't I
install my hypervisors, create a vm for RHEV manager and configure the
environment then (in the same way as it is possible with VMware)?

* Make ovirt-engine more Enterprise ready
Compared with VMware (sorry for always comparing it with VMware, but
it's the market leader and it has many nice features which would be
great in oVirt/RHEV, too) oVirt required more tasks done on command line
or via API/Shell/GUI as features are missing in the web GUI:

- Deploy network configs on all hosts
When creating a new logical network in a Cluster it has to be created on
all hosts before it can be used. It would be great if this could be done
automatically (except for rhevm/spice/storage-networks where an IP
address of each host is required). The workflow could be:
+ create new logical network
+ click on deploy button
+ create ifcfg-files on hosts
+ make ifcfg-files persistent on ovirt Nodes
+ bring interface up
+ check if interfaces are up
+ make logical network Operational if deployment was successful on all
hosts

- Configure ovirt hosts from GUI
It would be really an improvement if all settings of the TUI (like DNS,
NTP, syslog, kdump, admin and root passwords, hostname,...) could be
configured in ovirt-engine gui, too (in hosts tab). Plus including
changing multipath.conf in Web GUI would be very nice.

- Create host profiles
Storing all configuration settings of the TUI and host tab (without ip
addresses for sure) in a profile would make changes easier and speed up
deployment of new hypervisors. I'm thinking of:
+ create a profile which contains e.g. DNS, NTP and admin passwords
+ link profile to hosts
+ change DNS in profile
+ in hosts tab you can see that there are changes between the profile
and the hosts
+ bring host in maintenance mode
+ sync profile (and maybe reboot host)
When installing new hosts (via CD or PXE) the profile can be used to
automatically configure the host without pr

Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Stephen Spencer]

I would like to see export domains deployable to a SAN volume.   I had to
fiddle with various bits that had nothing to do with the problem for about
an hour before I realized the nfs service on the host designated for
hosting the exports NFS volume was not enabled.   The lesson for the
version I'm working with now (3.1) is to disconnect the export domain when
it's not in use, but it would be useful if it were mobile (or at least not
a deal-breaker for hypervisors that are trying to rejoin the cluster)

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Dave Neary]

Hi,

On 01/07/2013 12:15 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 01/07/2013 12:06 PM, Johan Kragsterman wrote:

  After reading all the suggestions on this subject, it would be much
appreciated if someone(perhaps you, Itamar, since you asked the
question) could sum this all up, and get us all on the list a view of
all the wishes, and the priority that seems to be among the list people.

  Then presenting this priority for us, so we can have a discussion
about it.


I'm planning to sum this up, probably next week.


Thanks Itamar!

Of course, the obvious next question is... who will implement some of 
these nice new features/integration ideas?


Are there people on the list who are particularly interested in specific 
features, and who feel able (with appropriate mentoring, if necessary) 
to take on their development, and get them on the roadmap for the next 
version?


Thanks!
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[David Jaša]

Charlie píše v So 05. 01. 2013 v 01:13 -0500:
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Itamar Heim  wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they find
> > good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see improved/added in
> > coming versions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >Itamar
> 
> Good/useful:  Open Source virtualization with a strong web management
> interface.  Rapidly improving, too.
> 
> wish improved:  SPICE connection reliability 

Whad do you mean by reliability?

David

> and LDAPS support.
> 
> wish added:  native ATA-over-Ethernet SAN support.
> 
> wish removed:  Kerberos dependencies.  Let people who want Kerb have
> it, but don't force it where it's not needed.  LDAP over SSL is
> secure.
> 
> Many thanks to all the oVirt team for all their hard work!
> 
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Itamar Heim]

On 01/07/2013 12:06 PM, Johan Kragsterman wrote:

Hi Itamar and list!

  After reading all the suggestions on this subject, it would be much
appreciated if someone(perhaps you, Itamar, since you asked the
question) could sum this all up, and get us all on the list a view of
all the wishes, and the priority that seems to be among the list people.

  Then presenting this priority for us, so we can have a discussion
about it.


I'm planning to sum this up, probably next week.




Rgrds Johan


 > On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
 >> Hi Everyone,
 >>
 >> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
 >> find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
 >> improved/added in coming versions?
 >>
 >> Thanks,
 >> Itamar


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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Johan Kragsterman]

Hi Itamar and list! After reading all the suggestions on this subject, it would be much appreciated if someone(perhaps you, Itamar, since you asked the question) could sum this all up, and get us all on the list a view of all the wishes, and the priority that seems to be among the list people. Then presenting this priority for us, so we can have a discussion about it.Rgrds Johan> On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:>> Hi Everyone, as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they >> find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see >> improved/added in coming versions? Thanks,>>     Itamar
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Koch (ovido)]

Hi Alex,

You can already group VMs using tags or search filters...


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On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 09:16 +, Alex Leonhardt wrote:
> Also, grouping (folders?) of VMs would be great to get a better
> overview in the "Virtual Machines" section. 
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/1/7 Patrick Hurrelmann 
> On 03.01.2013 17:25, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:
> > On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on
> what they
> >> find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
> >> improved/added in coming versions?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Itamar
> >
> > For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6.
> According to
> > the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's
> packages.
> >
> > But I'm really looking forward to oVirt 3.2 (reading all
> those commit
> > whets my appetite) :)
> >
> > Regards
> > Patrick
> 
> 
> And after thinking a bit more about it, this is what I like to
> see in
> addition:
> - clustered engine (eliminate this SPOF)
> - when FreeIPA is used for authentication, make use of its CA
> and
> generate certificates using ipa-getcert
> 
> Regards
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Alex Leonhardt]

Also, grouping (folders?) of VMs would be great to get a better overview in
the "Virtual Machines" section.

Alex


2013/1/7 Patrick Hurrelmann 

> On 03.01.2013 17:25, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:
> > On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
> >> find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
> >> improved/added in coming versions?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Itamar
> >
> > For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6. According to
> > the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's packages.
> >
> > But I'm really looking forward to oVirt 3.2 (reading all those commit
> > whets my appetite) :)
> >
> > Regards
> > Patrick
>
> And after thinking a bit more about it, this is what I like to see in
> addition:
> - clustered engine (eliminate this SPOF)
> - when FreeIPA is used for authentication, make use of its CA and
> generate certificates using ipa-getcert
>
> Regards
> Patrick
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Patrick Hurrelmann]

On 03.01.2013 17:25, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:
> On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they 
>> find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see 
>> improved/added in coming versions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Itamar
> 
> For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6. According to
> the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's packages.
> 
> But I'm really looking forward to oVirt 3.2 (reading all those commit
> whets my appetite) :)
> 
> Regards
> Patrick

And after thinking a bit more about it, this is what I like to see in
addition:
- clustered engine (eliminate this SPOF)
- when FreeIPA is used for authentication, make use of its CA and
generate certificates using ipa-getcert

Regards
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Kevin Maziere Aubry]

+1 :)
Le 6 janv. 2013 17:41, "Jorick Astrego"  a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> Firstly, thanks for all the great work on oVirt in 2012.
>
> What I haven't seen mentioned yet is any Open vSwitch or Openstack Quantum
> integration. This would help scale oVirt even further.
>
> I've seen a POC already out there 
> http://www.siliconloons.com/?**p=179
>
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Jorick Astrego]

Hi,

Firstly, thanks for all the great work on oVirt in 2012.

What I haven't seen mentioned yet is any Open vSwitch or Openstack 
Quantum integration. This would help scale oVirt even further.


I've seen a POC already out there http://www.siliconloons.com/?p=179

Regards,

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Charlie]

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Itamar Heim  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they find
> good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see improved/added in
> coming versions?
>
> Thanks,
>Itamar

Good/useful:  Open Source virtualization with a strong web management
interface.  Rapidly improving, too.

wish improved:  SPICE connection reliability and LDAPS support.

wish added:  native ATA-over-Ethernet SAN support.

wish removed:  Kerberos dependencies.  Let people who want Kerb have
it, but don't force it where it's not needed.  LDAP over SSL is
secure.

Many thanks to all the oVirt team for all their hard work!

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Andrew Cathrow]

- Original Message -
> From: "David Jaša" 
> To: "Bret Palsson" 
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 10:20:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
> 
> Bret Palsson píše v Pá 04. 01. 2013 v 08:05 -0700:
> > I'd like to see a built in VNC console that is java or a Spice java
> > console, something that runs cross platform, OS X, Windows, Linux
> > etc...
> 
> There are purely browser-based solutions for both: noVNC (mature
> AFAIK)
> and spice-html5 (still in beta quality, developers welcome). The
> problem

Beta quality is probably a little optimistic for spice-htm4

> with both is that they require websockets on server side which is not
> yet ready in qemu - spice-server implementation had to be reverted
> and

You can run a novnc server on another host to proxy it - similar to what 
Horizon does.


> will need a rewrite and libvncserver gained initial support just few
> months ago.
> 
> I'm sure that web-based consoles will be available in oVirt shortly
> after all layers below get the necessary features.
> 
> David
> 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:04 AM, David Jaša 
> > wrote:
> > Marcelo Barbosa píše v Pá 04. 01. 2013 v 11:46 -0200:
> > > Dear Itamar,
> > >
> > >
> > >My dreams for oVirt 3.2:
> > >
> > >
> > >1) Packages CentOs 6.x (ovirt-engine,
> > >ovirt-guest-agent);
> > >2) Resize VM disk from GUI ovirt-engine;
> > >3) Spice for Google Chrome, this browser run in
> > >anywere
> > O.S. and largest world use;
> > 
> > 
> > spice-xpi 2.8 will support chrome/chromium but it will
> > still
> > be linux-only.
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > >4) Show in Virtual Machines > General > ip/ip's from
> > >vm
> > OR Virtual Machines > Network Interfaces > show ip;
> > >5) ISO upload from GUI ovirt-engine the best option;
> > >6) Monitoring enviroment oVirt to Zabbix and
> > >Nagios(total
> > vms, mem clusters, and more...) example:
> > https://github.com/dougsland/nagios-plugins-rhev
> > >
> > >
> > >I think this would oVirt the project to another level,
> > much higher ...
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Marcelo Barbosa
> > > mr.marcelo.barb...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Soeren Grunewald
> >  wrote:
> > > On 01/03/2013 07:04 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > > On 01/03/2013 07:25 PM, Soeren Grunewald
> > wrote:
> > > On 01/03/2013 05:33 PM, Itamar
> > > Heim
> > wrote:
> > > On 01/03/2013 06:28 PM,
> > Soeren Grunewald wrote:
> > > On 01/03/2013
> > > 05:08
> > PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > Everyone,
> > >
> > > as we
> > > wrap
> > oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
> > > find
> > good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
> > >
> > improved/added in coming versions?
> > >
> > > A nice feature
> > > would
> > be to be able to migrate guests between AMD and
> > > Intel host
> > > machines.
> > > KVM should be
> > > able
> > to support it [1]. I don't know if other hypervisors
> > 

Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[David Jaša]

Bret Palsson píše v Pá 04. 01. 2013 v 08:05 -0700:
> I'd like to see a built in VNC console that is java or a Spice java
> console, something that runs cross platform, OS X, Windows, Linux
> etc...

There are purely browser-based solutions for both: noVNC (mature AFAIK)
and spice-html5 (still in beta quality, developers welcome). The problem
with both is that they require websockets on server side which is not
yet ready in qemu - spice-server implementation had to be reverted and
will need a rewrite and libvncserver gained initial support just few
months ago.

I'm sure that web-based consoles will be available in oVirt shortly
after all layers below get the necessary features.

David

> 
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:04 AM, David Jaša  wrote:
> Marcelo Barbosa píše v Pá 04. 01. 2013 v 11:46 -0200:
> > Dear Itamar,
> >
> >
> >My dreams for oVirt 3.2:
> >
> >
> >1) Packages CentOs 6.x (ovirt-engine, ovirt-guest-agent);
> >2) Resize VM disk from GUI ovirt-engine;
> >3) Spice for Google Chrome, this browser run in anywere
> O.S. and largest world use;
> 
> 
> spice-xpi 2.8 will support chrome/chromium but it will still
> be linux-only.
> 
> David
> 
> >4) Show in Virtual Machines > General > ip/ip's from vm
> OR Virtual Machines > Network Interfaces > show ip;
> >5) ISO upload from GUI ovirt-engine the best option;
> >6) Monitoring enviroment oVirt to Zabbix and Nagios(total
> vms, mem clusters, and more...) example:
> https://github.com/dougsland/nagios-plugins-rhev
> >
> >
> >I think this would oVirt the project to another level,
> much higher ...
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Marcelo Barbosa
> > mr.marcelo.barb...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Soeren Grunewald
>  wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 07:04 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 07:25 PM, Soeren Grunewald
> wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 05:33 PM, Itamar Heim
> wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 06:28 PM,
> Soeren Grunewald wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 05:08
> PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > as we wrap
> oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
> > find
> good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
> >
> improved/added in coming versions?
> >
> > A nice feature would
> be to be able to migrate guests between AMD and
> > Intel host machines.
> > KVM should be able
> to support it [1]. I don't know if other hypervisors
> > are able/can to
> support this. Because oVirt aims to support different
> > hypervisors it might
> be problematic. But I think offline migration
> > should be possible.
> >
> > can you please elaborate
> what do you mean by offline migration?
> >
> >
> > With offline  migration, I means the
> guest is not running while moving
> > it from one host to another.
> >
> > I have 2 host machines for testing.
> One is running on a AMD Opteron and
> > the other Intel Xeon. Since I can
> not put both machines in the same
> > cluster, I have specified a cluster
> called AMD (for the opteron) and
> > another called Intel (for the xeon).
> > Now I would like to move a guest
> from the AMD machine to the Intel
> > machine. Since the CPU does not
> match I can't.
> >
> > I'm not aware that you can't.
> >
> >
> > Ok, now is see my problem.
> >
> >
> > you should be able to move the VM from one
> cluster to the other.
> > yes, it will see a different cpu model. why
> is that an issue?
> >
> >
> >
> > To move t

Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Marcelo Barbosa]

René,

   Thanks for return, i go test your solution and realy wish feedback this
about it.

:)

Marcelo Barbosa
*mr.marcelo.barb...@gmail.com*


On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:42 PM, René Koch (ovido)  wrote:

> Hi Marcelo,
>
> Regarding your 6. point:
>
> I wrote a plugin for Icinga/Nagios to check RHEV 3.0 environment using
> REST-API. At the moment there are 2 bugs (1 fixed in latest svn trunk, 1
> open) to fully work with RHEV 3.1 (and properly oVirt 3.1):
>
> https://labs.ovido.at/monitoring/wiki/check_rhev3
>
> It would be great if you could test it with oVirt and give me some
> feedback :)
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> DI (FH) René Koch
> Senior Solution Architect
>
> 
> ovido gmbh - "Das Linux Systemhaus"
> Brünner Straße 163, A-1210 Wien
>
> Phone:   +43 720 / 530 670
> Mobile:  +43 660 / 512 21 31
> E-Mail:  r.k...@ovido.at
> 
>
>
> On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 11:46 -0200, Marcelo Barbosa wrote:
> > Dear Itamar,
> >
> >
> >My dreams for oVirt 3.2:
> >
> >
> >1) Packages CentOs 6.x (ovirt-engine, ovirt-guest-agent);
> >2) Resize VM disk from GUI ovirt-engine;
> >3) Spice for Google Chrome, this browser run in anywere O.S. and
> > largest world use;
> >4) Show in Virtual Machines > General > ip/ip's from vm OR Virtual
> > Machines > Network Interfaces > show ip;
> >5) ISO upload from GUI ovirt-engine the best option;
> >6) Monitoring enviroment oVirt to Zabbix and Nagios(total vms, mem
> > clusters, and more...) example:
> > https://github.com/dougsland/nagios-plugins-rhev
> >
> >
> >I think this would oVirt the project to another level, much
> > higher ...
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Marcelo Barbosa
> > mr.marcelo.barb...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Soeren Grunewald
> >  wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 07:04 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 07:25 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 05:33 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 06:28 PM, Soeren
> > Grunewald wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 05:08 PM, Itamar
> > Heim wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > as we wrap oVirt 3.2,
> > I wanted to check with
> > oVirt users on what
> > they
> > find good/useful in
> > oVirt, and what they
> > would like to see
> > improved/added in
> > coming versions?
> >
> > A nice feature would be to be
> > able to migrate guests between
> > AMD and
> > Intel host machines.
> > KVM should be able to support
> > it [1]. I don't know if other
> > hypervisors
> > are able/can to support this.
> > Because oVirt aims to support
> > different
> > hypervisors it might be
> > problematic. But I think
> > offline migration
> > should be possible.
> >
> > can you please elaborate what do you
> > mean by offline migration?
> >
> >
> > With offline  migration, I means the guest is
> > not running while moving
> > it from one host to another.
> >
> > I have 2 host machines for testing. One is
> > running on a AMD Opteron and
> > the other Intel Xeon. Since I can not put both
> > machines in the same
> > cluster, I have specified a cluster called AMD
> > (for the opteron) and
> > another called Intel (for the xeon).
> > Now I would like to move a guest from the AMD
> > machine to the Intel
> > machine. Since the CPU does not match I can't.
> >
> > I'm not aware that you can't.
> >
> >
> > Ok, now is see my 

Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Bret Palsson]

I'd like to see a built in VNC console that is java or a Spice java
console, something that runs cross platform, OS X, Windows, Linux etc...

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:04 AM, David Jaša  wrote:

> Marcelo Barbosa píše v Pá 04. 01. 2013 v 11:46 -0200:
> > Dear Itamar,
> >
> >
> >My dreams for oVirt 3.2:
> >
> >
> >1) Packages CentOs 6.x (ovirt-engine, ovirt-guest-agent);
> >2) Resize VM disk from GUI ovirt-engine;
> >3) Spice for Google Chrome, this browser run in anywere O.S. and
> largest world use;
>
> spice-xpi 2.8 will support chrome/chromium but it will still be linux-only.
>
> David
>
> >4) Show in Virtual Machines > General > ip/ip's from vm OR Virtual
> Machines > Network Interfaces > show ip;
> >5) ISO upload from GUI ovirt-engine the best option;
> >6) Monitoring enviroment oVirt to Zabbix and Nagios(total vms, mem
> clusters, and more...) example:
> https://github.com/dougsland/nagios-plugins-rhev
> >
> >
> >I think this would oVirt the project to another level, much higher ...
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Marcelo Barbosa
> > mr.marcelo.barb...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Soeren Grunewald <
> soeren.grunew...@avionic-design.de> wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 07:04 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 07:25 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 05:33 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 06:28 PM, Soeren Grunewald
> wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 05:08 PM, Itamar
> Heim wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I
> wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
> > find good/useful in
> oVirt, and what they would like to see
> > improved/added in coming
> versions?
> >
> > A nice feature would be to be
> able to migrate guests between AMD and
> > Intel host machines.
> > KVM should be able to support it
> [1]. I don't know if other hypervisors
> > are able/can to support this.
> Because oVirt aims to support different
> > hypervisors it might be
> problematic. But I think offline migration
> > should be possible.
> >
> > can you please elaborate what do you
> mean by offline migration?
> >
> >
> > With offline  migration, I means the guest is
> not running while moving
> > it from one host to another.
> >
> > I have 2 host machines for testing. One is
> running on a AMD Opteron and
> > the other Intel Xeon. Since I can not put both
> machines in the same
> > cluster, I have specified a cluster called AMD
> (for the opteron) and
> > another called Intel (for the xeon).
> > Now I would like to move a guest from the AMD
> machine to the Intel
> > machine. Since the CPU does not match I can't.
> >
> > I'm not aware that you can't.
> >
> >
> > Ok, now is see my problem.
> >
> >
> > you should be able to move the VM from one cluster to
> the other.
> > yes, it will see a different cpu model. why is that an
> issue?
> >
> >
> >
> > To move the guest I need to "edit" the guest and than I can
> change the cluster.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Soeren
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I assume the solution for this could be a
> generic cluster definition.
> > Something with a limited/specific cpu set equal
> to the qemu
> > configuration "-cpu qemu32" or "-cpu qemu64".
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Soeren
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[David Jaša]

Marcelo Barbosa píše v Pá 04. 01. 2013 v 11:46 -0200:
> Dear Itamar,
> 
> 
>My dreams for oVirt 3.2:
> 
> 
>1) Packages CentOs 6.x (ovirt-engine, ovirt-guest-agent);
>2) Resize VM disk from GUI ovirt-engine;
>3) Spice for Google Chrome, this browser run in anywere O.S. and largest 
> world use;

spice-xpi 2.8 will support chrome/chromium but it will still be linux-only.

David

>4) Show in Virtual Machines > General > ip/ip's from vm OR Virtual 
> Machines > Network Interfaces > show ip;
>5) ISO upload from GUI ovirt-engine the best option; 
>6) Monitoring enviroment oVirt to Zabbix and Nagios(total vms, mem 
> clusters, and more...) example: 
> https://github.com/dougsland/nagios-plugins-rhev
> 
> 
>I think this would oVirt the project to another level, much higher ...
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Marcelo Barbosa
> mr.marcelo.barb...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Soeren Grunewald 
>  wrote:
> On 01/03/2013 07:04 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> On 01/03/2013 07:25 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:
> On 01/03/2013 05:33 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> On 01/03/2013 06:28 PM, Soeren Grunewald 
> wrote:
> On 01/03/2013 05:08 PM, Itamar Heim 
> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I 
> wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
> find good/useful in oVirt, 
> and what they would like to see
> improved/added in coming 
> versions?
> 
> A nice feature would be to be able to 
> migrate guests between AMD and
> Intel host machines.
> KVM should be able to support it [1]. 
> I don't know if other hypervisors
> are able/can to support this. Because 
> oVirt aims to support different
> hypervisors it might be problematic. 
> But I think offline migration
> should be possible.
> 
> can you please elaborate what do you mean by 
> offline migration?
> 
> 
> With offline  migration, I means the guest is not 
> running while moving
> it from one host to another.
> 
> I have 2 host machines for testing. One is running on 
> a AMD Opteron and
> the other Intel Xeon. Since I can not put both 
> machines in the same
> cluster, I have specified a cluster called AMD (for 
> the opteron) and
> another called Intel (for the xeon).
> Now I would like to move a guest from the AMD machine 
> to the Intel
> machine. Since the CPU does not match I can't.
> 
> I'm not aware that you can't.
> 
> 
> Ok, now is see my problem.
> 
> 
> you should be able to move the VM from one cluster to the 
> other.
> yes, it will see a different cpu model. why is that an issue?
> 
> 
> 
> To move the guest I need to "edit" the guest and than I can change 
> the cluster.
> 
> Thanks,
> Soeren
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I assume the solution for this could be a generic 
> cluster definition.
> Something with a limited/specific cpu set equal to 
> the qemu
> configuration "-cpu qemu32" or "-cpu qemu64".
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Soeren
> 
> [...]
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Shu Ming]

1) I would like to have the ability to import an existing VM image from 
outside as a template into oVirt, then new VMs can be cloned from this 
template.
2) I would like to have an oVirt trial package based on nested-kvm. This 
package will contain several vdsm node images, one engine image and one 
storage several image. After the package is installed into a physical 
server, the images can be started as VMs including the engine, the VDSM 
nodes, the storage server. The VDSM nodes must support nested-kvm to 
have nested VM on them. It is very quick and simple for a new-comer to 
try the oVirt envionment.


Itamar Heim:

Hi Everyone,

as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they 
find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see 
improved/added in coming versions?


Thanks,
Itamar
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Koch (ovido)]

Hi Marcelo,

Regarding your 6. point:

I wrote a plugin for Icinga/Nagios to check RHEV 3.0 environment using
REST-API. At the moment there are 2 bugs (1 fixed in latest svn trunk, 1
open) to fully work with RHEV 3.1 (and properly oVirt 3.1):

https://labs.ovido.at/monitoring/wiki/check_rhev3

It would be great if you could test it with oVirt and give me some
feedback :)


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Senior Solution Architect


ovido gmbh - "Das Linux Systemhaus"
Brünner Straße 163, A-1210 Wien

Phone:   +43 720 / 530 670
Mobile:  +43 660 / 512 21 31
E-Mail:  r.k...@ovido.at



On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 11:46 -0200, Marcelo Barbosa wrote:
> Dear Itamar,
> 
> 
>My dreams for oVirt 3.2:
> 
> 
>1) Packages CentOs 6.x (ovirt-engine, ovirt-guest-agent);
>2) Resize VM disk from GUI ovirt-engine;
>3) Spice for Google Chrome, this browser run in anywere O.S. and
> largest world use;
>4) Show in Virtual Machines > General > ip/ip's from vm OR Virtual
> Machines > Network Interfaces > show ip;
>5) ISO upload from GUI ovirt-engine the best option; 
>6) Monitoring enviroment oVirt to Zabbix and Nagios(total vms, mem
> clusters, and more...) example:
> https://github.com/dougsland/nagios-plugins-rhev
> 
> 
>I think this would oVirt the project to another level, much
> higher ...
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Marcelo Barbosa
> mr.marcelo.barb...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Soeren Grunewald
>  wrote:
> On 01/03/2013 07:04 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> On 01/03/2013 07:25 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:
> On 01/03/2013 05:33 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> On 01/03/2013 06:28 PM, Soeren
> Grunewald wrote:
> On 01/03/2013 05:08 PM, Itamar
> Heim wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> as we wrap oVirt 3.2,
> I wanted to check with
> oVirt users on what
> they
> find good/useful in
> oVirt, and what they
> would like to see
> improved/added in
> coming versions?
> 
> A nice feature would be to be
> able to migrate guests between
> AMD and
> Intel host machines.
> KVM should be able to support
> it [1]. I don't know if other
> hypervisors
> are able/can to support this.
> Because oVirt aims to support
> different
> hypervisors it might be
> problematic. But I think
> offline migration
> should be possible.
> 
> can you please elaborate what do you
> mean by offline migration?
> 
> 
> With offline  migration, I means the guest is
> not running while moving
> it from one host to another.
> 
> I have 2 host machines for testing. One is
> running on a AMD Opteron and
> the other Intel Xeon. Since I can not put both
> machines in the same
> cluster, I have specified a cluster called AMD
> (for the opteron) and
> another called Intel (for the xeon).
> Now I would like to move a guest from the AMD
> machine to the Intel
> machine. Since the CPU does not match I can't.
> 
> I'm not aware that you can't.
> 
> 
> Ok, now is see my problem.
> 
> 
> you should be able to move the VM from one cluster to
> the other.
> yes, it will see a differen

Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Marcelo Barbosa]

Dear Itamar,

   My dreams for oVirt 3.2:

   1) Packages CentOs 6.x (ovirt-engine, ovirt-guest-agent);
   2) Resize VM disk from GUI ovirt-engine;
   3) Spice for Google Chrome, this browser run in anywere O.S. and largest
world use;
   4) Show in Virtual Machines > General > ip/ip's from vm OR Virtual
Machines > Network Interfaces > show ip;
   5) ISO upload from GUI ovirt-engine the best option;
   6) Monitoring enviroment oVirt to Zabbix and Nagios(total vms, mem
clusters, and more...) example:
https://github.com/dougsland/nagios-plugins-rhev

   I think this would oVirt the project to another level, much higher ...

Thanks.

Marcelo Barbosa
*mr.marcelo.barb...@gmail.com*


On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Soeren Grunewald <
soeren.grunew...@avionic-design.de> wrote:

> On 01/03/2013 07:04 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
>
>> On 01/03/2013 07:25 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/03/2013 05:33 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
>>>
 On 01/03/2013 06:28 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:

> On 01/03/2013 05:08 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
>> find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
>> improved/added in coming versions?
>>
>
> A nice feature would be to be able to migrate guests between AMD and
> Intel host machines.
> KVM should be able to support it [1]. I don't know if other hypervisors
> are able/can to support this. Because oVirt aims to support different
> hypervisors it might be problematic. But I think offline migration
> should be possible.
>

 can you please elaborate what do you mean by offline migration?


>>> With offline  migration, I means the guest is not running while moving
>>> it from one host to another.
>>>
>>> I have 2 host machines for testing. One is running on a AMD Opteron and
>>> the other Intel Xeon. Since I can not put both machines in the same
>>> cluster, I have specified a cluster called AMD (for the opteron) and
>>> another called Intel (for the xeon).
>>> Now I would like to move a guest from the AMD machine to the Intel
>>> machine. Since the CPU does not match I can't.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not aware that you can't.
>>
>
> Ok, now is see my problem.
>
>
>  you should be able to move the VM from one cluster to the other.
>> yes, it will see a different cpu model. why is that an issue?
>>
>>
> To move the guest I need to "edit" the guest and than I can change the
> cluster.
>
> Thanks,
> Soeren
>
>
>
>>
>>> I assume the solution for this could be a generic cluster definition.
>>> Something with a limited/specific cpu set equal to the qemu
>>> configuration "-cpu qemu32" or "-cpu qemu64".
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Soeren
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Soeren Grunewald]

On 01/03/2013 07:04 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 01/03/2013 07:25 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:

On 01/03/2013 05:33 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 01/03/2013 06:28 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:

On 01/03/2013 05:08 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

Hi Everyone,

as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
improved/added in coming versions?


A nice feature would be to be able to migrate guests between AMD and
Intel host machines.
KVM should be able to support it [1]. I don't know if other hypervisors
are able/can to support this. Because oVirt aims to support different
hypervisors it might be problematic. But I think offline migration
should be possible.


can you please elaborate what do you mean by offline migration?



With offline  migration, I means the guest is not running while moving
it from one host to another.

I have 2 host machines for testing. One is running on a AMD Opteron and
the other Intel Xeon. Since I can not put both machines in the same
cluster, I have specified a cluster called AMD (for the opteron) and
another called Intel (for the xeon).
Now I would like to move a guest from the AMD machine to the Intel
machine. Since the CPU does not match I can't.


I'm not aware that you can't.


Ok, now is see my problem.


you should be able to move the VM from one cluster to the other.
yes, it will see a different cpu model. why is that an issue?



To move the guest I need to "edit" the guest and than I can change the 
cluster.


Thanks,
Soeren





I assume the solution for this could be a generic cluster definition.
Something with a limited/specific cpu set equal to the qemu
configuration "-cpu qemu32" or "-cpu qemu64".


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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Koch (ovido)]

Hi,

First of all thanks for starting this discussion.

My feedback is mainly based on RHEV, as I'm using RHEV in our company
and on customer side. oVirt is cool as I can see what new features next
RHEV version may/will bring and what issues other users have with this
technology.

What I like:
* web based UI
* KVM as it brings the highest virtualization performance on the market
* RHEL/Fedora as a hypervisor for more flexibility
* tags and bookmarks with search filters - great for big installations
* server and desktop virtualization can be done with one gui
* open source of course ;)
* hook scripts - sooo cool!
* rest-api
* user portal - some of our customers use this as a basic cloud tool for
providing vms and self-provisioning features with accounting using
postgresql database

What I would like to see in future release in oVirt and after testing in
RHEV (most of these points are based on customer feedback, too, who
bought RHEV or where we had at least a pre-sales appointment):

* Spice-XPI for Firefox on Windows (and maybe Ubuntu):
I know it's a lot of work to build it for every new firefox version, but
providing it for Firefox LTS would be a really good start. At the moment
Internet Explorer ist required for full use of admin und user portal (or
VNC has to be used).

* ovirt-guest-agents for major Linux distributions:
- openSUSE
- SLES
- Ubuntu
- Debian

* Virtualize ovirt-engine on ovirt hosts
I know that this would require major changes due to how oVirt works
(libvirt and vdsm), but nearly every customers is asking: why can't I
install my hypervisors, create a vm for RHEV manager and configure the
environment then (in the same way as it is possible with VMware)?

* Make ovirt-engine more Enterprise ready
Compared with VMware (sorry for always comparing it with VMware, but
it's the market leader and it has many nice features which would be
great in oVirt/RHEV, too) oVirt required more tasks done on command line
or via API/Shell/GUI as features are missing in the web GUI:

- Deploy network configs on all hosts
When creating a new logical network in a Cluster it has to be created on
all hosts before it can be used. It would be great if this could be done
automatically (except for rhevm/spice/storage-networks where an IP
address of each host is required). The workflow could be:
+ create new logical network
+ click on deploy button
+ create ifcfg-files on hosts
+ make ifcfg-files persistent on ovirt Nodes
+ bring interface up
+ check if interfaces are up
+ make logical network Operational if deployment was successful on all
hosts

- Configure ovirt hosts from GUI
It would be really an improvement if all settings of the TUI (like DNS,
NTP, syslog, kdump, admin and root passwords, hostname,...) could be
configured in ovirt-engine gui, too (in hosts tab). Plus including
changing multipath.conf in Web GUI would be very nice.

- Create host profiles
Storing all configuration settings of the TUI and host tab (without ip
addresses for sure) in a profile would make changes easier and speed up
deployment of new hypervisors. I'm thinking of:
+ create a profile which contains e.g. DNS, NTP and admin passwords
+ link profile to hosts
+ change DNS in profile
+ in hosts tab you can see that there are changes between the profile
and the hosts
+ bring host in maintenance mode
+ sync profile (and maybe reboot host)
When installing new hosts (via CD or PXE) the profile can be used to
automatically configure the host without providing all settings via boot
options + configure all networks, custom multipath.conf,... Host profile
should be used for full RHEL/Fedora hosts as well.

- Update RHEL/Fedora Hypervisors from GUI
It would be nice if Fedora hosts could be updated from the ovirt-engine
GUI like the ovirt Node. Running yum check-update on host and displaying
notice if there are updates available.

- Implement resource pools
At the moment only Quotas are available (which is great, btw), but in
some cases it's necessary to implement resource pools. E.g. Limit CPU,
Memory and Network for group of test vms, but give full resources to
production vms. This could be done with cgroups.

- Clone vms
I'm missing the possibility of cloning vms without creating a template. 

- Resize disk in GUI
Increasing the size of a disk would help a lot. At the moment I create
new disks and put it into volume group on vm, but resizing would be
nicer in some cases and will reduce the number of disks.

- Upload ISOs within the GUI to ISO domain

- Integrate virt-v2v into oVirt GUI
It would be cool if VMs could be Migrated from other systems within the
GUI using virt-v2v as a backend.

- Edit settings of vms before importing them
Most the of the settings like disk type (IDE/VirtIO), nic but also vm
type (server/desktop) and access protocol (Spice/VNC) can't be edited
withing oVirt/RHEVM GUI before importing them. These settings can only
be changed by editing the xml directly. Disk type and nic is risky of
course, but working for most Linux distr

Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Tom Brown]

> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tom Brown" 
>> To: "users@oVirt.org" 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 7:47:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
>> 
>> I'd like to see a spice client for Mac - i know of various ports but
>> as of now on 10.8 i have to use VNC which is not ideal. I now spice
>> != ovirt however they are very linked at this time.
> 
> What do you mean? a client or a browser plugin?
> 

i suppose ideally both - a browser plugin would be great as then interaction 
between the GUI and the console would be seamless with the ability to use a 
standalone client if it were required.

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Alex Leonhardt]

Easier import of existing Nodes back into a new oVirt Engine would be great
- it's a complete mess at the moment (if one doesnt have a backup) - I'm
looking at this from VMware users point of view, with them, all you need to
do is point it at a server and it'll  import everything that's already
there - oVirt should have the same capabilities / with some confirmation
screens that it belongs to another storage domain, etc. etc. and if one
wants to force it, but it should still be possible ...


Alex


2013/1/4 Alex Leonhardt 

> +1 this :) ... I use dreyou's packages too ...
>
> also - ovirt/rhev agent for centos 5.8 would be a nice to have :)
>
>
> 2013/1/3 Patrick Hurrelmann 
>
>> On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
>> > Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> > as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
>> > find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
>> > improved/added in coming versions?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Itamar
>>
>> For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6. According to
>> the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's packages.
>>
>> But I'm really looking forward to oVirt 3.2 (reading all those commit
>> whets my appetite) :)
>>
>> Regards
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Alex Leonhardt]

+1 this :) ... I use dreyou's packages too ...

also - ovirt/rhev agent for centos 5.8 would be a nice to have :)


2013/1/3 Patrick Hurrelmann 

> On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
> > find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
> > improved/added in coming versions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Itamar
>
> For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6. According to
> the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's packages.
>
> But I'm really looking forward to oVirt 3.2 (reading all those commit
> whets my appetite) :)
>
> Regards
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Johan Kragsterman]

Hi!There are many promising features in oVirt, but still I feel it is just "promising", not for production. The most critical issue for me, that is preventing me from using oVirt in production, is the "single point of failure" of the engine. I wouldn't want the struggle of setting up a new engine, and all the hazards that brings, in a production environment, in the case of an engine failureSo, some sort of clustered engine, or master/slave, or whatever can solve this situation.Perhaps one of the reasons this is difficult is because of the integration of both admin portal and user portal? Then I believe it was a mistake to combine them, and that it would be better to split them.Rgrds JohanOp 03-01-13 17:08, Itamar Heim schreef:

Hi
  Everyone,
  
  
  as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what
  they find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
  improved/added in coming versions?
  
  
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Winfried de Heiden]

  
  
Hi all,

What I like:


  It´s open!
  both "thin" oVirt node and "fat" Linux+VDSM.
  Browser based GUI, Firefox supported.
  Spice console works just fine!

What I really would like to include in the coming releases:


  Option to resize disk in user interface and CLI.
  
  Import, upload, raw and qcow2 images from the web gui and CLI.
Importing VMDK (vmWare) would be nice as well.
  Upload ISO from the web gui.
  What about exporting raw and qcow2 images (and convert to
vmdk)...
  
  Option to disable "This Browser version isn't optimal for
displaying the application". Ater 10 times it gets anoying.
  
  Better recovery for the ISO and export domains. Currently, if
I keep my export domain  connected a crashing server might cause
problems. After creating a new server en reconnecting the old
export or iso domain, it will say "it is allready connected to
another domain". The export domain is such a nice way to backup
important templates and virtual machines :)
  
  Multiple ISO domains.
  Both export and ISO domains on local storage, iSCSI, CIFS etc.

Looking forward to the new release!

Winfried

Op 03-01-13 17:08, Itamar Heim schreef:

Hi
  Everyone,
  
  
  as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what
  they find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
  improved/added in coming versions?
  
  
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Vincent Van der Kussen]

On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:08:48PM +0200, Itamar Heim wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what
> they find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
> improved/added in coming versions?
> 
> Thanks,
>Itamar

Hi, 

Deploying multiple VMs from 1 template at the same time. Currently you have to 
wait until the template image is "available" again.

Best regards,
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Patrick Hurrelmann]

On 03.01.2013 23:13, Moran Goldboim wrote:
> On 01/03/2013 07:42 PM, Darrell Budic wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:
>>
>>> On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
 find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
 improved/added in coming versions?

 Thanks,
Itamar
>>>
>>> For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6. According to
>>> the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's packages.
>>
>> I'm going to second this strongly! Official support would be very much
>> appreciated. Bonus points for supporting a migration from the dreyou
>> packages. No offense to dreyou, of course, just rather be better
>> supported by the official line on Centos 6.x.
> 
> EL6 rpms are planned to be delivered with 3.2 GA version, and nightly
> builds from there on.
> hopefully we can push it to 3.2 beta.
> 
> Moran.
> 

Great news! Thanks a lot.

Regards
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Moran Goldboim]

On 01/03/2013 07:42 PM, Darrell Budic wrote:


On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:


On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:

Hi Everyone,

as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
improved/added in coming versions?

Thanks,
   Itamar


For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6. According to
the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's packages.


I'm going to second this strongly! Official support would be very much 
appreciated. Bonus points for supporting a migration from the dreyou 
packages. No offense to dreyou, of course, just rather be better 
supported by the official line on Centos 6.x.


EL6 rpms are planned to be delivered with 3.2 GA version, and nightly 
builds from there on.

hopefully we can push it to 3.2 beta.

Moran.




Better support/integration of windows based SPICE clients would also 
be much appreciated, I have many end users on Windows, and it's been a 
chore to keep it working so far. This includes the client drivers for 
windows VMs to support the SPICE display for multiple displays. More 
of a client side thing, I know, but a desired feature in my environment.


Thanks for the continued progress and support as well!

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Kevin Maziere Aubry]

Hii

I think a IPAM is mandatory, so that the VM can grab their IP without human
configuration.

Kévin


2013/1/3 Itamar Heim 

> Hi Everyone,
>
> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they find
> good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see improved/added in
> coming versions?
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Alexandru Vladulescu]

Dear Itamar,


I would like to add a request for the new upper coming version 3.2 if 
possible:


Although some of you use spice instead of VNC, as I am an Ubuntu user on 
my desktop and laptop, spice protocol is not working withing my OS; even 
if I tried to build it from source, search unofficial deb packs or 
convert if from rpm packages. I know spice is strongly supported on the 
Fedora community, but I, myself on the server side work on RH Enterprise 
and Centos, but as for desktop use, I have a very hard time make the 
spice plugin for firefox to work.


Therefore for my solution I had setup a VNC reflector + some shell 
automation to make it work between 2 different subnets (one inside and 
one outside) -- this, somehow, adding to the initial scope.


This would have been much more easier to have a VNC proxy inside the 
ovirt engine function, from where to make the necessary setups and 
assignments of the console to each VM, or even though I might sound 
funny to make a solution as vrde on Vbox, because works damn great and 
it's easy to setup or change.


Last question, If I might ask, when is the 3.2 planned to be released 
(aprox)?



Cordially,
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Hi Everyone,

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find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see 
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Andrew Cathrow]

- Original Message - 

> From: "Darrell Budic" 
> To: "Itamar Heim" 
> Cc: "users@oVirt.org" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 2:02:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

> On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

> > On 01/03/2013 07:42 PM, Darrell Budic wrote:
> 

> > > On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:
> > 
> 

> > > > On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on
> > > > > what
> > > > > they
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > improved/added in coming versions?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > Better support/integration of windows based SPICE clients would
> > > also
> > > be
> > 
> 

> > > much appreciated, I have many end users on Windows, and it's been
> > > a
> > 
> 

> > > chore to keep it working so far. This includes the client drivers
> > > for
> > 
> 

> > > windows VMs to support the SPICE display for multiple displays.
> > > More
> > > of
> > 
> 

> > > a client side thing, I know, but a desired feature in my
> > > environment.
> > 
> 

> > these would be guest drivers for spice, rather than client ones,
> > right?
> 

> Yes, I should have said guest drivers for spice, mixing my throughs
> on spice clients with the guest VMs themselves. Best way I can think
> of to describe it would be the ovirt equivalent of
> "rhev-guest-tools-iso-3.0-37.noarch.rpm" or whatever version they
> are on now.


spice-spice upstream has a guest tools installer that includes the inguest 
drivers - signed but not WHQL'd.
http://www.spice-space.org/download/binaries/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-0.3.exe


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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Darrell Budic]

On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

> On 01/03/2013 07:42 PM, Darrell Budic wrote:
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:
>> 
>>> On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
 find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
 improved/added in coming versions?
 
>> 
>> Better support/integration of windows based SPICE clients would also be
>> much appreciated, I have many end users on Windows, and it's been a
>> chore to keep it working so far. This includes the client drivers for
>> windows VMs to support the SPICE display for multiple displays. More of
>> a client side thing, I know, but a desired feature in my environment.
> 
> these would be guest drivers for spice, rather than client ones, right?

Yes, I should have said guest drivers for spice, mixing my throughs on spice 
clients with the guest VMs themselves. Best way I can think of to describe it 
would be the ovirt equivalent of "rhev-guest-tools-iso-3.0-37.noarch.rpm" or 
whatever version they are on now.

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Adrian Gibanel]

- Mensaje original - 

> De: "Vijay Bellur" 

> On 01/03/2013 10:14 PM, Adrian Gibanel wrote:
> > This is what I'm missing right now in oVirt 3.1:
> >
> > Better GlusterFS support.
> > ===
> > 1. Add a checkbox when creating a volume: "Set oVirt permissions"
> > so
> > that the vdsm : kvm permissions are set. I don't want it to be
> > per-default because I'd like to use Volumes tabs as a Volumes
> > manager
> > for Glusterfs volumes and not only Glusterfs volumes aimed at
> > virtual
> > machines.
> >
> > From: http://blog.jebpages.com/archives/ovirt-3-1-glusterized/ :
> > ( For now, the Gluster volume manager neglects to set brick
> > directory
> > permissions correctly, so after adding bricks on a machine, you
> > have to
> > return to the terminal and run chown -R 36.36 /data (assuming /data
> > is
> > where you are storing your volume bricks) to enable oVirt to write
> > to
> > the volumes. )

> This feature is available in 3.2. Enabling a checkbox to optimize
> gluster volume for oVirt will set vdsm:kvm permissions on bricks that
> are part of the volume.

It was more or less obvious the feature was going to be there because seems 
easy to implement but I couldn't check it yet. 
Great! 

> > 2. Add a quota tab in Volumes. So that you can enable/disable/edit
> > its
> > quota:
> > http://www.gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Gluster_3.2:_Enabling_Quota
> > http://gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Gluster_3.2:_Managing_Directory_Quota

> Noted. We will address this in a subsequent release.

Cool. 

> Thanks,
> Vijay

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Vijay Bellur]

On 01/03/2013 10:14 PM, Adrian Gibanel wrote:

This is what I'm missing right now in oVirt 3.1:

Better GlusterFS support.
===
1. Add a checkbox when creating a volume: "Set oVirt permissions" so
that the vdsm : kvm permissions are set. I don't want it to be
per-default because I'd like to use Volumes tabs as a Volumes manager
for Glusterfs volumes and not only Glusterfs volumes aimed at virtual
machines.

From: http://blog.jebpages.com/archives/ovirt-3-1-glusterized/ :
( For now, the Gluster volume manager neglects to set brick directory
permissions correctly, so after adding bricks on a machine, you have to
return to the terminal and run chown -R 36.36 /data (assuming /data is
where you are storing your volume bricks) to enable oVirt to write to
the volumes. )


This feature is available in 3.2. Enabling a checkbox to optimize 
gluster volume for oVirt will set vdsm:kvm permissions on bricks that 
are part of the volume.




2. Add a quota tab in Volumes. So that you can enable/disable/edit its
quota:
http://www.gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Gluster_3.2:_Enabling_Quota
http://gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Gluster_3.2:_Managing_Directory_Quota


Noted. We will address this in a subsequent release.

Thanks,
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Itamar Heim]

On 01/03/2013 07:42 PM, Darrell Budic wrote:


On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:


On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:

Hi Everyone,

as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
improved/added in coming versions?

Thanks,
   Itamar


For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6. According to
the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's packages.


I'm going to second this strongly! Official support would be very much
appreciated. Bonus points for supporting a migration from the dreyou
packages. No offense to dreyou, of course, just rather be better
supported by the official line on Centos 6.x.


Better support/integration of windows based SPICE clients would also be
much appreciated, I have many end users on Windows, and it's been a
chore to keep it working so far. This includes the client drivers for
windows VMs to support the SPICE display for multiple displays. More of
a client side thing, I know, but a desired feature in my environment.


these would be guest drivers for spice, rather than client ones, right?



Thanks for the continued progress and support as well!

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

- Original Message -
> From: "Andrew Cathrow" 
> To: "Tom Brown" 
> Cc: "users@oVirt.org" , "Alon Bar-Lev" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 7:58:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Alon Bar-Lev" 
> > To: "Tom Brown" 
> > Cc: "users@oVirt.org" 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:52:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tom Brown" 
> > > To: "users@oVirt.org" 
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 7:47:00 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
> > > 
> > > I'd like to see a spice client for Mac - i know of various ports
> > > but
> > > as of now on 10.8 i have to use VNC which is not ideal. I now
> > > spice
> > > != ovirt however they are very linked at this time.
> > 
> > What do you mean? a client or a browser plugin?
> 
> There is an early spice client upstream but it still needs to be
> integrated with oVirt

If that the case we should solve the non-plugin integration with spice[1] and 
have easier lives.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=843410

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> > Thanks,
> > Alon.
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Itamar Heim]

On 01/03/2013 07:25 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:

On 01/03/2013 05:33 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 01/03/2013 06:28 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:

On 01/03/2013 05:08 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

Hi Everyone,

as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
improved/added in coming versions?


A nice feature would be to be able to migrate guests between AMD and
Intel host machines.
KVM should be able to support it [1]. I don't know if other hypervisors
are able/can to support this. Because oVirt aims to support different
hypervisors it might be problematic. But I think offline migration
should be possible.


can you please elaborate what do you mean by offline migration?



With offline  migration, I means the guest is not running while moving
it from one host to another.

I have 2 host machines for testing. One is running on a AMD Opteron and
the other Intel Xeon. Since I can not put both machines in the same
cluster, I have specified a cluster called AMD (for the opteron) and
another called Intel (for the xeon).
Now I would like to move a guest from the AMD machine to the Intel
machine. Since the CPU does not match I can't.


I'm not aware that you can't.
you should be able to move the VM from one cluster to the other.
yes, it will see a different cpu model. why is that an issue?




I assume the solution for this could be a generic cluster definition.
Something with a limited/specific cpu set equal to the qemu
configuration "-cpu qemu32" or "-cpu qemu64".


Regards,
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Andrew Cathrow]

- Original Message -
> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" 
> To: "Tom Brown" 
> Cc: "users@oVirt.org" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:52:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom Brown" 
> > To: "users@oVirt.org" 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 7:47:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
> > 
> > I'd like to see a spice client for Mac - i know of various ports
> > but
> > as of now on 10.8 i have to use VNC which is not ideal. I now spice
> > != ovirt however they are very linked at this time.
> 
> What do you mean? a client or a browser plugin?

There is an early spice client upstream but it still needs to be integrated 
with oVirt

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

- Original Message -
> From: "Tom Brown" 
> To: "users@oVirt.org" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 7:47:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
> 
> I'd like to see a spice client for Mac - i know of various ports but
> as of now on 10.8 i have to use VNC which is not ideal. I now spice
> != ovirt however they are very linked at this time.

What do you mean? a client or a browser plugin?

Thanks,
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Tom Brown]

>> 
>> For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6. According to
>> the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's packages.
> 
> I'm going to second this strongly! Official support would be very much 
> appreciated. Bonus points for supporting a migration from the dreyou 
> packages. No offense to dreyou, of course, just rather be better supported by 
> the official line on Centos 6.x.
> 

and one more for good measure!

> Better support/integration of windows based SPICE clients would also be much 
> appreciated, I have many end users on Windows, and it's been a chore to keep 
> it working so far. This includes the client drivers for windows VMs to 
> support the SPICE display for multiple displays. More of a client side thing, 
> I know, but a desired feature in my environment.
> 

I'd like to see a spice client for Mac - i know of various ports but as of now 
on 10.8 i have to use VNC which is not ideal. I now spice != ovirt however they 
are very linked at this time.

> Thanks for the continued progress and support as well!
> 

indeed!

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Darrell Budic]

On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:

> On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they 
>> find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see 
>> improved/added in coming versions?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>>Itamar
> 
> For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6. According to
> the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's packages.

I'm going to second this strongly! Official support would be very much 
appreciated. Bonus points for supporting a migration from the dreyou packages. 
No offense to dreyou, of course, just rather be better supported by the 
official line on Centos 6.x.


Better support/integration of windows based SPICE clients would also be much 
appreciated, I have many end users on Windows, and it's been a chore to keep it 
working so far. This includes the client drivers for windows VMs to support the 
SPICE display for multiple displays. More of a client side thing, I know, but a 
desired feature in my environment.

Thanks for the continued progress and support as well!

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Soeren Grunewald]

On 01/03/2013 05:33 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 01/03/2013 06:28 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:

On 01/03/2013 05:08 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

Hi Everyone,

as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
improved/added in coming versions?


A nice feature would be to be able to migrate guests between AMD and
Intel host machines.
KVM should be able to support it [1]. I don't know if other hypervisors
are able/can to support this. Because oVirt aims to support different
hypervisors it might be problematic. But I think offline migration
should be possible.


can you please elaborate what do you mean by offline migration?



With offline  migration, I means the guest is not running while moving 
it from one host to another.


I have 2 host machines for testing. One is running on a AMD Opteron and 
the other Intel Xeon. Since I can not put both machines in the same 
cluster, I have specified a cluster called AMD (for the opteron) and 
another called Intel (for the xeon).
Now I would like to move a guest from the AMD machine to the Intel 
machine. Since the CPU does not match I can't.


I assume the solution for this could be a generic cluster definition. 
Something with a limited/specific cpu set equal to the qemu 
configuration "-cpu qemu32" or "-cpu qemu64".



Regards,
Soeren

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Andrew Cathrow]

- Original Message -
> From: "Itamar Heim" 
> To: "Soeren Grunewald" 
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 11:33:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
> 
> On 01/03/2013 06:28 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:
> > On 01/03/2013 05:08 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what
> >> they
> >> find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
> >> improved/added in coming versions?
> >
> > A nice feature would be to be able to migrate guests between AMD
> > and
> > Intel host machines.
> > KVM should be able to support it [1]. I don't know if other
> > hypervisors

It cannot be supported by KVM in any meaningful way - it requires running VMs 
as the lowest common denominator which looks and performs more like a Pentium 
IV.


> > are able/can to support this. Because oVirt aims to support
> > different
> > hypervisors it might be problematic. But I think offline migration
> > should be possible.
> 
> can you please elaborate what do you mean by offline migration?
> 
> Thanks,
> Itamar
> 
> >
> > Regards,
> >Soeren
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Itamar
> > [...]
> >
> >
> > [1] http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Migration
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Sven Knohsalla]

Hi Itamar,

- A very tiny but useful function would be to support deletion/replacement of 
uploaded ISOs -> engine-iso-upload
- offer official RPMs for RHEL/CentOS etc
- a scheduling system or "simple" cron for planning VM snapshots + export 
possibility (simple backup system)
- allow unattended installation of ovirt-nodes via kickstart (for example)
- I don't know if that is technical possible at this point:
  bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network to increase network bandwidth /  
HA failover time.

Thanks,
 Sven.

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Hi Everyone,

as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they find 
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Adrian Gibanel]

This is what I'm missing right now in oVirt 3.1: 

Better GlusterFS support. 
=== 
1. Add a checkbox when creating a volume: "Set oVirt permissions" so that the 
vdsm : kvm permissions are set. I don't want it to be per-default because I'd 
like to use Volumes tabs as a Volumes manager for Glusterfs volumes and not 
only Glusterfs volumes aimed at virtual machines. 

From: http://blog.jebpages.com/archives/ovirt-3-1-glusterized/ : 
( For now, the Gluster volume manager neglects to set brick directory 
permissions correctly, so after adding bricks on a machine, you have to return 
to the terminal and run chown -R 36.36 /data (assuming /data is where you are 
storing your volume bricks) to enable oVirt to write to the volumes. ) 

2. Add a quota tab in Volumes. So that you can enable/disable/edit its quota: 
http://www.gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Gluster_3.2:_Enabling_Quota
 
http://gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Gluster_3.2:_Managing_Directory_Quota
 

All In One (AIO) bigger timeout 
=== 
From: 
http://blog.jebpages.com/archives/up-and-running-with-ovirt-3-1-edition/ 

( I’ve found that the all-in-one installer sometimes times out during the 
install process. If the script times out during the final “AIO: Adding Local 
host (This may take several minutes)” step, you can proceed to the web admin 
console to complete the process. If it times out at an earlier point, like 
waiting for the jboss-as server to start, you should run “engine-cleanup” and 
then re-run “engine-setup”) 
and my quote: 

(Before running engine-setup you have to edit: 
/usr/share/ovirt-engine/scripts/plugins/ all_in_one_100.py 
file and edit the waitForHostUp function so that the timeout is smaller. Like 
this: 
def waitForHostUp(): 
utils.retry(isHostUp, tries=40, timeout=300, sleep=5)) 

Installation on disable SElinux 
== 
If SElinux is disabled then oVirt installation does not work. So I think that 
either is advised to use it or... it's fixed so that it works even without 
SElinux. 

All-in-one script should take care of last steps 
== 
Not sure about this last point but I think that AIO should be able to perform 
the iso domain attachment to the datacenter in itself. 
Check 5th step on: 
http://blog.jebpages.com/archives/up-and-running-with-ovirt-3-1-edition/ 

There might be more glitches but these are the most important ones for me that 
I remember of. 

Guide me help texts 
== 
One more. The Guide me dialogs are very handy. But I think they miss a little 
help on them to explain such stupid things as what's the purpose of adding an 
storage domain a datacenter. 

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> De: "Itamar Heim" 
> Para: "users" 
> Enviados: Jueves, 3 de Enero 2013 17:08:48
> Asunto: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

> Hi Everyone,

> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
> find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
> improved/added in coming versions?

> Thanks,
> Itamar

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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Itamar Heim]

On 01/03/2013 06:28 PM, Soeren Grunewald wrote:

On 01/03/2013 05:08 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

Hi Everyone,

as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
improved/added in coming versions?


A nice feature would be to be able to migrate guests between AMD and
Intel host machines.
KVM should be able to support it [1]. I don't know if other hypervisors
are able/can to support this. Because oVirt aims to support different
hypervisors it might be problematic. But I think offline migration
should be possible.


can you please elaborate what do you mean by offline migration?

Thanks,
   Itamar



Regards,
   Soeren



Thanks,
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Soeren Grunewald]

On 01/03/2013 05:08 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

Hi Everyone,

as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they
find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see
improved/added in coming versions?


A nice feature would be to be able to migrate guests between AMD and 
Intel host machines.
KVM should be able to support it [1]. I don't know if other hypervisors 
are able/can to support this. Because oVirt aims to support different 
hypervisors it might be problematic. But I think offline migration 
should be possible.


Regards,
  Soeren



Thanks,
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Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?

[Patrick Hurrelmann]

On 03.01.2013 17:08, Itamar Heim wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> as we wrap oVirt 3.2, I wanted to check with oVirt users on what they 
> find good/useful in oVirt, and what they would like to see 
> improved/added in coming versions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Itamar

For me, I'd like to see official rpms for RHEL6/CentOS6. According to
the traffic on this list quite a lot are using Dreyou's packages.

But I'm really looking forward to oVirt 3.2 (reading all those commit
whets my appetite) :)

Regards
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