On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
I posted drawings of these cross-sections. If you don't have them, I can
post them again.
Yes, please, if you could.
Eric
Here are drawings of what I deduced for construction of the HotCat and HT2
versions (mostly from the Penon report):
HotCat (first generation)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Pc25a4cOM2SnVSTFJGbnBNR1k/edit?usp=sharing
HT2 (second generation with cat and mouse)
- Original Message -
From: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Thus a low work function metal hydride
To be effective, an alpha/beta emitter would have to be highly radioactive
to produce enough particles to support a sizable amount of H for LENR
reactions. Additionally, at these high pressures, the mean free path of
monatomic H is very short, so the radioactive material would have to be
placed
From: Bob Cook
A interesting experiment would be to run Rossi's reactor with selected Ni
isotopes and note any differences in the energy output. It would not surprise
me if this has not already been accomplished under the advice of Focardi to
better understand the process. The hot cat
This is definitely an interesting argument. I'm agnostic at this point as
to whether Rossi has used a radioactive catalyst in the past. I suspect he
does not now, for the regulatory reasons you mention below.
About the H2 pressure and the mean free path of monoatomic hydrogen -- I'm
curious
As I recall, the original E-Cats were charged from a bottle source of
hydrogen to 5-10 bar (depending on the activity he wished his experiment to
show) while the device was still cold and then the gas input was valved off
(producing a sealed reaction vessel). Since it was charged at about 300
: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--
As I recall, the original E-Cats were charged from a bottle source of
hydrogen to 5-10 bar (depending on the activity he wished his experiment to
show) while the device was still cold and then the gas input was valved off
(producing a sealed
metal hydride with good magnetic properties
would be ideal.
Thanks for that reference.
Bob Cook
- Original Message -
From: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--
On Mon, Sep 1
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Thus a low work function metal hydride with good magnetic properties would
be ideal.
Note that an alpha or a beta emitter will also dissociate molecular
hydrogen into monoatomic hydrogen (and potentially Rydberg hydrogen
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Nonsense. In fact within a month – at the very next test there was NO LEAD
and there has been no lead since then.
Yes, as far as I know that is the case.
You still have not shown that Rossi ever reported gamma radiation in an
operating E-Cat !
From: Bob Cook
* … I would only gloat to myself.
Feel free to gloat in a big public demonstration if gammaless fusion is
proved :-)
Side Note: There is a strange mentality, which is seen in some skeptics of
LENR – the relevant
Obviously I have some catch-up posting to do. I will begin with some of
the latter comments.
Jones, you exemplify the other side of the coin: If I thought of it, so it
must be right. We stand on the shoulders of giants. I read and try to
synthesize the best understanding I can piece together
All these electron combining with proton theories violate the conservation
of leptons. These reactions are forbidden.
Meson production does not violate conservation laws. I went with meson
production because of this.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Are you proposing a BEC? A BEC cannot form at these temperatures,
This is not correct.
A polariton has a mass the is 10^-11 that of an electron. Because of this
almost zero polariton mass, a polariton condensate are almost always
produced at any temperature.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 12:21 PM,
Also if two DDL hydrogens fuse is the product a DDL helium?
If they do then the product would tend to look like tritium.
Harry
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Obviously I have some catch-up posting to do. I will begin with some of
the latter
Three additional points to add:
* I'm still waiting for a careful writeup of Mizuno's latest NiH/NiD work.
What we've seen are some slides. It seems premature at this point to draw too
many conclusions.
* We know relatively little about nickel systems compared to palladium systems.
I assume
I believe the thinking is that the fusion of DDL atoms begins with the
formation of a DDL pico-molecule. Meulenberg then proposes that the two
electrons in combination (his Lochon) are involved in the fusion. When
fusion would occur, the electrons are so close to the nucleus that they are
highly
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
All these electron combining with proton theories violate the conservation
of leptons. These reactions are forbidden.
Not if a neutrino is involved. (Not that I'm at all persuaded by the
proposed p-e-p reaction.)
Mesons in
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
This is not correct.
A polariton has a mass the is 10^-11 that of an electron. Because of this
almost zero polariton mass, a polariton condensate are almost always
produced at any temperature.
Could you point us to
electrons cannot be converted to something that contain quarks. this
violates the conservation of both lepton and baryon number. This reaction
might therefore be forbidden as a violation of particle conservation laws.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
A electron neutrino is produced.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
All these electron combining with proton theories violate the conservation
of leptons. These reactions are forbidden.
http://www.umich.edu/~mctp/SciPrgPgs/events/2010/MQSS10/Talks/Littlewood_Michigan_PBL.pdf
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
This is not correct.
A polariton has a mass the is 10^-11
I just posted this the other day,,,
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.1298v1.pdf
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.umich.edu/~mctp/SciPrgPgs/events/2010/MQSS10/Talks/Littlewood_Michigan_PBL.pdf
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Eric Walker
Correction: Muon neutrino
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
A electron neutrino is produced.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
All these
So many egregious errors ... so little time to correct them all...
Bob Higgins: This business of Rossi using a radioactive ingredient is a Bozo
speculation based on absolutely nothing. And Rossi is not the only one to
measure gamma from a LENR experiment ...
Oh... Rossi measured gamma? News
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.umich.edu/~mctp/SciPrgPgs/events/2010/MQSS10/Talks/Littlewood_Michigan_PBL.pdf
Following are the rough specs of the polaritons described in these slides:
- Temperatures on the range of 0 - 16 K.
- Photon
Well, as I went back and checked, it was the earlier paper Focardi wrote
describing Piantelli's Ni-H experiments where Focardi reported substantial
gamma. You talk about a Mizuno hero experiment where Mizuno reports 108
MJ, in this Focardi paper, Piantelli had one experiment over 900 MJ and
Try this one
http://arxiv.org/vc/arxiv/papers/1210/1210.7086v1.pdf
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, supper's done and I found the reference I was looking for. This is
an interview with Sergio Focardi where he talks about the technology. He
says radiation is present and that is why they have the lead. He talks
about having a radiation detector outside the reactor to shut down the
reactor
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Well, supper's done and I found the reference I was looking for ...
- A radio interview with Sergio Focardi, the father of 'Ni-H Cold
Fusion'; Radio Citta del Capo - Bologna - Italy.
Excellent sources, Bob. I
From: Bob Higgins
* Yes, I am quite aware that some researchers have salted their experiments
with radioactive isotopes. I also know that Dennis Cravens sometimes use
thorium oxide for that purpose (he showed me his jar). That doesn't mean that
Piantelli or Rossi did.
Where did
From: Bob Higgins
*
* Well, supper's done and I found the reference I was looking for. This is an
interview with Sergio Focardi where he talks about the technology.
The material from 2004 is irrelevant wrt Rossi
* In Focardi's 2010 paper with Rossi, Focardi describes the
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
The material from 2004 is irrelevant wrt Rossi
Most obviously not.
no radiation was observed at levels greater than natural radiation
background. No radioactivity has been found also in the Nickel residual
from the
You must be joking right?
Only a fool makes a gamma measurement outside the lead.
Please read the Bianchini report. He is very clear about how the readings were
taken: UNDER THE LEAD
Jones
From: Eric Walker
Jones Beene wrote:
The material from 2004 is irrelevant wrt
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
You must be joking right?
Only a fool makes a gamma measurement outside the lead.
Not true, even a little. There are very good reasons for taking gamma
measurements outside of lead, the primary one being to ensure that
From: Eric Walker
You must be joking right
Only a fool makes a gamma measurement outside the lead.
Not true, even a little. There are very good reasons for taking gamma
measurements outside of lead, the primary one being to ensure that the device
can operate safely around humans.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
You still have not shown that Rossi ever reported gamma radiation in an
operating E-Cat ! Please – put up or shut up.
Please read the interview.
Eric
Clearly Dr. Va'vra has not given up his belief in the existence of the DDL
states, as his 2013 paper is proposing DDL as a possible explanation for
the galactic 511keV signal. He says in this paper that the previous
calculations were based on the QM formulations of the 1920's and that the
problem
Bob,
Another interesting possibility has come up (within the hour, actually) –
which can be called “meta-states” of dark matter. These are accumulated
meta-states in the sense that the 511 keV line comes not from a decay of any
particle, but instead there are macro accumulations of
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Another interesting possibility has come up (within the hour, actually) –
which can be called “meta-states” of dark matter. These are accumulated
meta-states in the sense that the 511 keV line comes not from a decay of
Another interesting possibility has come up (within the hour, actually) –
which can be called “meta-states” of dark matter (as emitting entities). These
are accumulated macro-states in the sense that the signature line comes not
from a decay of any particle, but instead from accumulations of
This is in part because Va'vra hypothesizes that it may be possible to
produce DDL transitions with multiple photons. If multiple photons are
involved, there is nothing to insure that all photon components would come
out in the same direction (like a laser). Hence, you would have to
integrate
I wrote:
Just one point of detail -- I read Va'vra as saying that if you sum all of
the photon energies from a hydrogen atom going to DDL across a full solid
angle, this will add up to 511 keV.
Looking at the 2013 paper again, that is just one of two possibilities.
One possibility is that
There is a third possibility – that Va’vra is measuring something completely
different… since as I recall, he is trying to explain a phenomenon of the Milky
Way, and the others who see emissions from distant galaxies in the range of 3.5
keV are seeing a characteristic emission of dark matter
It is worth mentioning in the context of:
http://web.mit.edu/physics/greytak-kleppner/publications/LT22_Talk.pdf
which treats atomic hydrogen as a composite boson … which
can be (has been) condensed, all of it raises the remote possibility that
the emitting species in
One of the dark matter theories that has gained favor through the
observation of many instances of circumstantial evidence for its existence
is based on a soliton that is light years in size. The unexplained emission
lines that are being observed could be that of the EMF single frequency
which
While Va'vra is recently trying to connect the 511 keV galactic signal with
DDL hydrogen, his theory about multi-photon DDL transitions is older. He
has been doing work with spark discharge in hydrogen and uses a large
cylindrical scintillator with an axial hole to look for coincident
detection
Hydrogen will most likely will preferably assume a metastable state in
which a one dimensional crystalline form of Rydberg matter is surrounded
by a cloud of many electrons in orbit around a long string like core of
many protons.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Bob Higgins
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Hydrogen will most likely will preferably assume a metastable state in
which a one dimensional crystalline form of Rydberg matter is surrounded
by a cloud of many electrons in orbit around a long string like core of
many
the book of Ed Storms beside his theory put the finger on key weirness of
LENr evidence.
one is that Iwamura experiments shows a fusion of heavy nucleus with an
even number of deuterons, precisely one that lead to a stable result...
finding an explation for those two weirness is a key.
the even
One more facet of the DDL connection is that chemically bound DDL molecules
are entirely possible - such as D^D and D^D^. Meulenberg proposes that
these pico-molecules will fuse in 10s of picoseconds. It is likely
that pico-molecules could form inside of Ed Storms' hydroton. These
From: Bob Higgins
One more facet of the DDL connection is that chemically bound DDL molecules are
entirely possible - such as D^D and D^D^. Meulenberg proposes that these
pico-molecules will fuse in 10s of picoseconds.
The problem with this hypothesis is simple. Mizuno presented the
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
The best explanation for lack of gammas – the only explanation needed – is
lack of fusion.
I'm sooo tempted to collect statements from you along these lines for
future gloating. ;)
Eric
Magnetic action upon the nucleus is responsible for LENR. A MNR inactive
nucleus (a zero nuclear spin) is required to optimize the effect of the
magnetic field on the nucleus. There, no magnetic energy is wasted. A NMR
active nucleus (a non zero nuclear spin) will dissipate the energy of the
Lack of gamma is a result of superabsorbsion in a coherent system of SPPs.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
The best explanation for lack of gammas – the only explanation needed
Eric,
These statements are in the archive so there is no need to collect them. There
are many of them over the years, so there will be plenty to gloat over - if
gammaless fusion is proved.
My only excuse will be to say that if nuclear fusion - at low input energy,
without gammas - is
Nanoplasmonic experiments can be performed that evoke nuclear reactions
through the use of laser irradiation of metallic nanoparticles. The
nanoparticles amplify, concentrate, focus and convert the photons from the
lasers into magnetic energy as described in my previous posts, for example
see this
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
My only excuse will be to say that if nuclear fusion ... is proved then it
will consist of two simultaneous miracles.
Yes -- agreed.
Yet in November, if Mizuno backtracks and sez… oops... we had a bad meter
earlier -
From: Eric Walker
Jones Beene wrote:
My only excuse will be to say that if nuclear fusion ... is
proved then it will consist of two simultaneous miracles.
Yes -- agreed.
Lack of fusion cannot be claimed over all of the LENR experiments. He,
Tritium, gamma, and transmutation have all been reliably reported. You
cannot simply brush away these good, and in many cases replicated,
experiments simply because you find the Mizuno results personally
satisfying.
I find
From: Bob Higgins
* Lack of fusion cannot be claimed over all of the LENR experiments.
He, Tritium, gamma, and transmutation have all been reliably reported. You
cannot simply brush away these good, and in many cases replicated,
experiments simply because you find the
Higgins and Jones-
Dr. Va’Vra Identified QED as being the correct theory to consider spin energy
and coupling to many-body systems. (He or Dr. Vary may have an informed
opinion on the issue of spin energy dissipation in LENR.)
I think Bob Higgins pointed this out in his nice
Jones--
After reviewing this thread I do not think I made the following observation
stemming from the theory of relativistic DDL discussed by Vavra etal in their
1993 paper. It notes that the strongest repulsion of the lower electronic
levels is not the lowest energy level, but about level
Bob - There were substantial changes made by Va’vra in
moving to QED which confuse the overall situation - but when we look at the
big picture – and consider all the theorists who have looked at the DDL,
there is still an excellent fit for the 3.7 keV species of Naudts fitting
the
Jones--
Thanks for that repeat.
I missed it the first time.
Eric also identified the recent (2013) Va’vra paper, which is quite interesting
including it reluctance to try to discuss theory, this being a change from his
actions in the 1993 paper. I wonder what changed his mind about
This latest Va’vra paper could be an extremely important stimulus for and
evolving LENR version of the DDL. It is chock full of detail that bears
reading and rereading.
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.0833v3.pdf
Although the DDL transition is at 511 keV is the focus this paper, which is
ostensibly
The easiest way to reconcile the latest Va’vra paper (and the 511 keV line
which comes from the center of the Milky Way galaxy) with the predicted
Naudts x-ray spectral value for DDL can be rather simple (hopefully not
naïve).
The DDL reaches a plateau of electron orbital stability at 3.7 keV.
From prior post:
The characteristic interaction of monopoles with each other
is strong mutual attraction up to a fairly substantial distance (cm range
perhaps) and then strong mutual repulsion thereafter, leaving a large gap
which prohibits any dense aggregation
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Dr. Va'vra has a 2013 ArXiv paper (http://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.0833v3.pdf) -
I think it is a fascinating fit to this thread. If someone else already
cited this, I apologize for the duplication.
I had a moment to read
I believe that hydrogen in space will form spontaneously into solid crystal
chains comprised of many atoms with the protons concentrated in the
interior of these one dimensional particles and many of the electrons
orbiting on the outside zone of these nanoparticles. It is in these types
of
The indication that muons are produces in the Ni/H reactor are based on the
ash assay that shows heavy production of Lithium, Boron, and beryllium as
produced by the Proton Proton reaction. I admit that it is an open quest of
how those muons are produced.
Be advised that the magnetic field in the
From: Dave
How does the pin move if not confined by the tube? Does it move from the
center region and stick to another spot?
From: Bob
How is the ferrite conditioned? Is it magnetized? Have you reproduced
this effect? What happens to the hat pin when there is no tube?
Soft iron
Thanks for the input, Jones.
The pin stays in the same place when it is rotated 180 degree and put back
in the tube - and/or – get this: the pin stays in the same place when the
entire system is turned 180 degree (the pin does not drop away due to
gravity in either of the two upside down
Also see:
*http://www.rfcafe.com/references/radio-news/subminiature-magnetic-amplifiers-dec-1957-radio-tv-news.htm
http://www.rfcafe.com/references/radio-news/subminiature-magnetic-amplifiers-dec-1957-radio-tv-news.htm*
Bob
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
From: Bob Higgins
* Also see:
http://www.rfcafe.com/references/radio-news/subminiature-magnetic-amplifiers
-dec-1957-radio-tv-news.htm
Very good, Bob. Brian and I actually spent several hundred hours a few years
ago researching mag-amps –
There is also such a thing as a thermomagnetic heat pump. It is usually
envisioned with moving magnets. However, just as one can imagine a moving
magnetic field from a 3-phase drive producing a linear magnetic motor, one
can envision a motion-less thermomagnetic heat pump in a ferrite. There
Yes the magneto-caloric effect.
This precisely what we think is happening (rather could be happening if there
was actual gain) where the moving magnetic field creates EMF in the windings
and cooling in the core BUT where the cooling loss balances the EM gain. Best
of both.
BTW – the
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Something similar wrt a non-stationary magnetic field happens with another
anomalous device – which is called the Manelas/Sweet device, mentioned here
before. There may be a non-obvious connection to LENR. A visual image
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
There is an uncertainty of 200 microns in the origin of the bosenova
because that reaction could occur anywhere inside the nickel foam.
I will answer my own question. There's little reason to think that a 1
Tesla field was
You have the word and reputation of Dr Kim, as good a researcher as exists
in the field of LENR experimentation. When there is an explosion, how do
you know the size of the reaction at time zero?
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
You have the word and reputation of Dr Kim, as good a researcher as exists
in the field of LENR experimentation. When there is an explosion, how do
you know the size of the reaction at time zero?
Perhaps you're referring to
...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 21, 2014 1:55 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--
DGT says that about 1 tesla is produced at 20 CMs intheir reactor.
This 20CM location must be outside of the reactor. Thereaction zone is located
inside a 200 micron nickel
From: David Roberson
The inverse cube law is normally seen when a two pole magnet is observed at
a dimension that is relatively large compared to the spacing between those
poles. If you monitor the field variation when close to one of the poles
you get the second order behavior.
The actual
janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 21, 2014 1:55 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--
*DGT says that about 1 tesla is produced at 20 CMs in their reactor.*
This 20CM location must be outside of the reactor. The reaction zone is
located
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 21, 2014 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--
Thank you Dave for the response to my post, It is a pod tomore deductive
speculation about the nature of the magnetic field in the Ni/Hreactor.
I notice that there is a disbelief
Poser: can there be an operative cross-connection between
ferrite magnet anomalies and LENR thermal anomalies involving protons and
the DDL ? The two seem completely unrelated at first.
First, consider magnet composition, but dispense with prior assumptions that
there is no
After reading the Electron Transitions on Deep Dirac Levels II by Dr.s
Maly and Va'vra, I was intrigued to find the other papers. I did not find
a copy of ... I, or any of the III, IV, and V versions that Dr. Va'vra
indicated were submitted [note: if any of you have a copy of Electron
Transitions
Ferrites encompass a large body of magnetic materials. Does this photo
(slide 6) show a slab of ferrite magnet? - probably. The long thin hat pin
is magnetized and the plastic tube keeps the long hat pin magnet from
flipping and is thus able to levitate. I don't see anything mysterious
here.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:18 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
An interesting case to speculate upon would be that the observed field is
due to the combination of a very large multitude of individual active areas
that are battling for supremacy. The fact that such a large net field
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I personally think that the field is the net vector sum of a very large
number of tiny sources and hence may not become as large as is suggested as
we close in on those individual sources.
If we accept at face value
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.5699.pdf
The P and A mesons in strong abelian magnetic field in SU(2) lattice gauge
theory.
What we are after is negitive mesons.
Just like positron and electon pairs, the production of mesons from the
vacume is produced by a magnetic field somewhere under 10^^16
If you put your name on a paper and present it at a conference before your
piers making such are extraordinary claim, would you not verify the data?
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection--
Date: Thu, Aug 21, 2014 11:01 PM
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I would also assume that it is the result of a vector sum of a large number of
small magnetic moments.
Eric
Bob,
Thanks for following up on this.
Unfortunately for elucidating the basis of LENR, if Va’vra is correct, then 511
keV is not going to solve any open questions. In fact, this spectrum has been
specifically looked for and not seen.
Jones
From: Bob Higgins
After reading
From: Bob Higgins
Does this photo (slide 6) show a slab of ferrite magnet? - probably. The long
thin hat pin is magnetized and the plastic tube keeps the long hat pin magnet
from flipping and is thus able to levitate. I don't see anything mysterious
here. It is just showing that the
How does the pin move if not confined by the tube? Does it move from the
center region and stick to another spot?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 22, 2014 12:29 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater
How is the ferrite conditioned? Is it magnetized? Have you reproduced
this effect? What happens to the hat pin when there is no tube?
Soft iron needles easily become magnetized. What is seen in the photo
could easily be reproduced with a ferrite magnet slab and an
[inadvertently]
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.5699.pdf
The paper you cite talks about the changing masses of ⍴ and A mesons under
strong magnetic fields. It does not talk about meson condensation. It
does mention some interesting points,
Still above my paygrade. I don't see Muons mentioned. They're implied. I
get it. Abstract, like an artist.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
DGT says that about 1 tesla is produced at 20 CMs in their reactor. If the
source of that field is localized to
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