[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more video: doing it right

Thanks Brion for the detailed breakdown re: video issues. Replying under the changed subject line :) Re: transcoding video, Brion wrote: > Allowing *ingestion* of MP4 h.264/AAC would allow uploading camera > originals from most consumer gear -- a major democratizing feature. > Ingestion of MP4

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 11:44 AM Brion Vibber wrote: > 1) Overturn the requirement to avoid handling h.264 files on Wikimedia > servers or > accept them from users or serve them to users. Allow importing h.264 uploads > and creating h.264 transcodes for playback compatibility. The last RFC [1]

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 10:23 PM Steven Walling wrote: > With the money allocated to Knowledge Equity in the last couple years, we > could have hired > at least a couple more software engineers to do work like fulfill community > wishlist requests. I disagree with that framing. Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] 10*100K grant funding for AI oversight (OpenAI)

FYI, OpenAI's nonprofit parent has launched a new grant program for responsible AI: https://openai.com/blog/democratic-inputs-to-ai This is not concerned with the problem that's probably of highest concern to Wikimedians (AI as bullshit generators) but with the longer term steering of AI as it

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 23 March: Invitation to Open Community Call on ChatGPT, generative AI, and Wikimedia

Lauren: > Erik, I see your point now and agree with you. But doesn't it seem > like obtaining a perfect license is at present the enemy of the urgent > good of bringing a concerted effort to bear on problems that are > clearly detrimental to project integrity? I don't think the licensing

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 23 March: Invitation to Open Community Call on ChatGPT, generative AI, and Wikimedia

On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 8:38 AM wrote: > Downloading computer programs and electronic databases (and downloading for > purposes outside > the listed exception) requires an express consent of the copyright holder, > i.e. a license. > In other words, you _cannot_ download a GPL program without

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 23 March: Invitation to Open Community Call on ChatGPT, generative AI, and Wikimedia

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 12:25 PM Lauren Worden wrote: > > If you don't obtain this agreement, you cannot meaningfully enforce > > the "license" because the downloader never agreed to it in the first > > place. Moreover, you'll have to make sure that _everyone else making > > copies of the file_

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 23 March: Invitation to Open Community Call on ChatGPT, generative AI, and Wikimedia

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 1:49 PM Jan Ainali wrote: > On the contrary, I think it is important to, as early as possible, deter all > these attempts > to weaken the concept of "open" and that we as a movement need to take a hard > stance > against them. I agree with Jan on this. Licenses are the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Mozilla's social media pledge

The latest announcement from Twitter is that the site is going fully pay-to-play -- to be in recommendation feeds or even vote in polls, you will need to be a subscriber. [1] While it remains to be seen whether the site will follow through, these plans are consistent with the relentless promotion

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 11:53 AM Lauren Worden wrote: > BARD also produces lengthy passages from its training data verbatim > without elicitation: > https://old.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/11xxaxj/bard_copied_user_text_from_a_forum_word_for_word/jd58764/ Very true. I tested the "Mr. Ripley"

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 12:12 PM Lauren Worden wrote: > They have, and LLMs absolutely do encode a verbatim copy of their > training data, which can be produced intact with little effort. See > https://arxiv.org/pdf/2205.10770.pdf -- in particular the first > paragraph of the Background and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 7:05 PM Steven Walling wrote: > IANAL of course, but to me this implies that responsibility for the > *egregious* lack > of attribution in models that rely substantially on Wikipedia is violating > the Attribution > requirements of CC licenses. Morally, I agree that

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 12:33 PM Jimmy Wales wrote: > Speaking only for myself, out of curiosity, some real world examples might be > helpful here. I don't have access to Bing's > version yet, but I do have access to chat.openai.com which is very impressive > but deeply flawed. I've found

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Mozilla's social media pledge

On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 2:30 PM Erik Moeller wrote: > These are just the nonprofits > that Wikidata knows about: > > https://w.wiki/6Am4 Apologies, that was the wrong URL. Here is the correct one for that query: https://w.wiki/69V8 And yeah, completely agree re: patience - hope

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Mozilla's social media pledge

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 7:46 AM SCP 2000 wrote: > FYI, I asked WMF Communication Team about any plans of using Mastodon in > future. > > Here is their response [1] "The Digital Communications team has been > researching > Mastodon and considering our potential involvement with the platform in

[Wikimedia-l] Re: ChatGPT and Wikipedia

On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 1:00 AM Anders Wennersten wrote: > For me the only question is of Google come first (who has better knowledge > how to interface > backend knowledge repositories the Wikipedia will become) or if chatGPT will > learn this No speech interface as far as I can tell, but

[Wikimedia-l] Re: ChatGPT and Wikipedia

On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 2:01 PM Erik Moeller wrote: > Querying Wikidata via SPARQL is currently still a bit of wizardry (and > the query builder is extremely limited). To pick a completely random > example not at all inspired by current events, if I wanted to see a > list of

[Wikimedia-l] Mozilla's social media pledge

Worth a read: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-launch-fediverse-instance-social-media-alternative/ "Our intention is to contribute to the healthy and sustainable growth of a federated social space that doesn’t just operate but thrives on its own terms, independent of profit- and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: ChatGPT and Wikipedia

On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 5:55 AM Anders Wennersten wrote: > ChatGPT is now making headlines more or less every day and I perceive > them to try to position themself av the "next" google. I suspect OpenAI will continue to focus on generative applications (images, code, text for purposes such as

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Selena Deckelmann joins as Chief Product & Technology Officer

Congrats! An amazing background -- thanks for all your work advancing the free and open Internet, and welcome! Wishing you all success in this new role. :-) Warmly, Erik ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Simplifying governance processes

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 5:13 PM Steven Walling wrote: > What else? In my view, User Experience research has a lot to contribute to this conversation. Every announcement, every banner, every call to action can be user-tested, including in multiple languages. Put it in front of people and see how

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Collection / Special:Book usage

For those who haven't tried it out, here's what the PediaPress output looks like (after it's done compiling the book, it'll give you a preview): https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Book=order_collection=User:Pmillett/Books/2009%E2%80%9310_PBA_season=pediapress That specific book is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The Wikipedia Library: Accessing free reliable sources is now easier than ever

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:25 AM Samuel Klein wrote: > --> collab w/ a free-content annotation + summarization service Strong +1. Summarization of proprietary sources helps to further broaden access to the facts stated therein (summarization of free sources is, of course, useful as well!). I'm

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming the new Wikimedia Foundation CEO

Dear Maryana, Welcome! What a wonderful, varied background in mission-driven work. I can't wait to read more of your perspective on this list and on the wikis. Wishing you all success in the role! Warmly, Erik ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list --

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 5:03 AM Chris Keating wrote: > My concern over this specific instance is prompted by several things: Thanks for laying out these concerns very clearly, Chris! I'll reiterate that, above all, my own biggest concern here is that governance standards of the movement should

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

I strongly agree that whatever standards of governance the movement develops should be adhered to consistently. I think it's entirely understandable if folks are angry if WMF holds affiliates to a different standard than itself. A symmetrical waiting period for Board members seeking paid positions

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution about the upcoming Board elections

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:35 AM Steven Walling wrote: > So I don’t think your point is the highest priority item compared to deciding > the > election / appointment for all the rest of the seats. I agree that's the more important question. Regarding the founder seat, I do think it would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Logo of MediaWiki has changed

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 4:28 PM Amir Sarabadani wrote: > After more than one year of design, discussion, vote, iteration, and > months of legal work, I’m happy to announce that the logo of MediaWiki > has been officially changed. It looks beautiful and professional. Excellent work by Serhio,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Test Mailman3 in production

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 12:59 AM Amir Sarabadani wrote: > tl;dr: https://lists-next.wikimedia.org is running mailman3. > Please help us test the software before we upgrade the real mailing list > server. Thank you so much for your hard work on this. For better or for worse, mailing lists are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Surveys using third party tools on Wikimedia projects

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 2:11 AM Mathieu Lovato Stumpf Guntz wrote: > Now, the WMF by its own word aims to "provide the essential infrastructure > for free knowledge". > Should this statement be taken seriously, the foundation can not be light on > the tools it chooses > to communicate with the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish! / Stepping down April 15

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:48 AM Katherine Maher wrote: > Earlier today, I announced to my colleagues at the Wikimedia Foundation > my intention to step down as CEO later this spring. You did amazing work for the movement. Like others who have moved on from WMF, it has felt great knowing that the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:36 PM Joseph Seddon wrote: > I believe options are going to be explored for sustainability but right now > legally speaking the US is the best jurisdiction for hosting us now Certainly. > and the foreseeable future. I can't foresee the future. But Trump's first term

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 2:51 PM Samuel Klein wrote: > There should be no 'collaborative and transformative work' done on this > archive Bulk uploads often entail collaboration or transformation as the uploads are organized, and as format issues and other considerations are worked through. If you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 3:52 PM Samuel Klein wrote: > I don't think we should mix NC with free-knowledge licenses . > I do absolutely think we should maintain an archive, visible to the public > with at most a simple hoop to jump through, of material that is offered to > us in any legal way but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

James wrote: > I simply wish that such a position would convince more > organizations. WHO has repeatedly told me that we, as a non-profit, are > already free to use their work and if we chose not to, that is on us. I agree of course that this sort of institutional inertia can be incredibly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

Hi James :) (This is my last reply for today, given the recommended posting limit on this list.) > We all agree that NC licenses are exceedingly poor due to the reasons > listed, yet we leave a lot of useful content (such as Khan academy videos) > less accessible to our readers because we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 3:10 PM Michael Peel wrote: > I remember reading Erik’s blog post a decade or so ago, which convinced me > that -NC was useless due to its ambiguity - where exactly is the line drawn > between what is commercial and what is not? I can’t find it now

[Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

Hi folks, Pete Forsyth wrote a new essay on the ambiguities of the NonCommercial ("non-commercial use only") provision in Creative Commons licenses, which I wanted to share in case it's helpful for folks making the case against using NC to cultural institutions or others (or in the occasionally

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

This is wonderful news. :) Thank you for the foresight to support this important initiative, and huge thanks to Denny for continuing to tirelessly explore new ways to make knowledge truly universally accessible! This project has the potential to become a new foundation for learning about our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 4:20 PM Florence Devouard wrote: > For some reasons, it is true for "kitimaguru", but if I search for > "lamp" (EN) versus "lampe" (FR), or "key" (English) versus "clé" > (French), I really do not get the same results at all I noticed that Hay just added a locale

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Giving Commons a bigger public

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:10 AM Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hay Kranen created a proof of concept where Commons is searched for > pictures that (per standard) use a "depicts" statement. This is a beautiful proof of concept; thank you for sharing it, Gerard, and thank you, Hay, for developing it.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] .org TLD for sale?

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 5:23 PM Katherine Maher wrote: > Quick update here. You may have seen some press coverage already, but this > week, a group of technologists, non-profits, policymakers, and internet > governance folks filed in California to create a cooperative membership > corporation,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] .org TLD for sale?

Thanks for sharing this, Andy. This appears to be a major governance failure on the part of ICANN (sadly, not for the first time). I'm glad Wikimedia is among the first orgs on this list. I don't think it's too late to stop this, especially as all evidence points to corrupt inside

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Supporting Wikinews [was: Reviewing our brand system for our 2030 goals]

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 5:54 AM Фархад Фаткуллин / Farhad Fatkullin wrote: > I feel I can give a relatively neutral comment on the part quoted below. Dear Farhad, Thanks so much for sharing your observations re: https://ru.wikinews.org/ . I'm glad to hear that the project is publishing on a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell, Erik!

Thank you, Erik, for helping Wikimedia to know itself! I've always appreciated the incredibly rich detail in your reports, your willingness to unpack the awesome complexity of the wiki-verse, and your insistence that this knowledge should be as free and open as the Wikimedia projects are. I've

[Wikimedia-l] Jamal Khashoggi's call to action

Up until recently, Saudi Arabian journalist Jamal Khashoggi worked for the Washington Post. What happened to him? I couldn't say it better than Wikipedia: [1] (begin quote) On 2 October 2018, Khashoggi entered the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul to obtain documents related to his

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 12:46 AM, Leinonen Teemu wrote: > I have been looking for social networking service that would be fair: not > abusing > personal data, funded by community, respecting privacy, accepting anonymity, > free/libre/ open source etc. Haven’t found many.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 11:32 AM, Strainu wrote: >> Personally, I'd love to see WMF or a chapter set up a public Mastodon >> instance; the project has matured significantly since its first >> release and is at least a viable free/open alternative to the >> Twitter-ish forms

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About Facebook Linked in some of Wikimedia projects

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 5:31 PM, James Heilman wrote: > I am not seeing any link to Facebook here? > > https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeniyetm%C9%99_(roman) It's part of a banner, not sure the banner is set to 100%. It says: "Azərbaycanca Vikipediya ilə daim əlaqədə olmaq üçün

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 28: Strategy update - Final draft of movement direction and endorsement process (#25)

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > I think it would be good to do some legal work to gain that clarity. The > Amazon Echo issue, with the Echo potentially using millions of words from > Wikipedia without any kind of attribution and indication of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 28: Strategy update - Final draft of movement direction and endorsement process (#25)

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 12:51 AM, James Salsman wrote: > Erik, > > Should interactive web, internet of things, or offline services > relying on Foundation encyclopedia CC-BY-SA content be required to > attribute authorship by specifying the revision date from which the >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 28: Strategy update - Final draft of movement direction and endorsement process (#25)

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Wikidata has its own problems in that regard that have triggered ongoing > discussions and concerns on the English Wikipedia.[1] Tensions between different communities with overlapping but non-identical objectives are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 28: Strategy update - Final draft of movement direction and endorsement process (#25)

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > ... and it will all become one free mush everyone copies to make a buck. We > are already in a situation today where anyone asking Siri, the Amazon Echo, > Google or Bing about a topic is likely to get the same answer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] September 28: Strategy update - Final draft of movement direction and endorsement process (#25)

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 4:10 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Reading between the lines of statements like "Knowledge as a service", > "essential infrastructure", "tools for allies and partners to organize and > exchange free knowledge beyond Wikimedia", etc., my sense is that the >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mailing list usability: Observations about Mailman 3

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 7:59 AM, rupert THURNER wrote: >> A somewhat related ticket about trying to unify our discussion platforms >> was discussed in a session at Wikimania: >> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155678 > Interesting thanks for the pointer. Compared to

[Wikimedia-l] Mailing list usability: Observations about Mailman 3

Hi folks, The topic of list usability has come up here a few times in the past, and efforts have been made over the years to pilot alternative forum systems like Discourse, or to redirect more conversations to talk pages. Yet the mailing lists continue to be used for a significant share of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikitribune!

Jimmy- I think it's a great initiative! First, kudos for using the CC-BY license. I have reviewed a large number of nonprofit journalism outlets over the last few months [1], and this decision alone would set the project apart from even the public interest media sphere. There are only a few

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Stuart Prior wrote: > As an example, anthropogenic climate change is a politically sensitive > issue, but how can a consensus-driven movement not take into account that > 97% of climate scientists acknowledge its existence > ? > [1]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Florence Devouard wrote: > For example... the message "one in six people visited another country in > 2016"... illustrated by "SeaTac Airport protest against immigration ban. > Sit-in blocking arrival gates until 12 detainees at Sea-Tac are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Mike Godwin wrote: > (2) As I put it many times many years ago in the years before and > after the SOPA/PIPA blackout, there are few POVs *less* neutral than > the commitment to give all the information in the world to everyone > for free. We

Re: [Wikimedia-l] With my thanks to everyone ...

Geoff -- Many thanks for all you've done for the movement! You helped take the WMF to a new level of professionalism, built a fantastic team, and led it during some of the most pivotal moments in the organization's history. During our years of working together, I deeply admired your dedication to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

Hey Denny -- Kudos for your well-reasoned decision, and for your service on the Board during a very challenging time. One of the beautiful things about Wikimedia is how much scope you can have to move things forward without any special roles or affiliation. I very much look forward to reading

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-21 13:53 GMT-07:00 Mark A. Hershberger : > We've since held three meetings[3][4][5] and have planned two more. > During the meeting planned for about six weeks from now[6], we intend > to have a format that allows us to respond to questions or concerns from > the larger

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-24 3:35 GMT-07:00 Andre Engels : >> Since the "Mediawiki" trademark was lost to WMF the day you and >> Anthere placed the logo into public domain [1], how can the WMF now >> spin-off this new organization ?. > That's incorrect, putting something in the public

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-17 22:54 GMT-07:00 Pine W : > I agree that these options should be explored. I'm wondering what the best > way would be to facilitate this conversation. > > Perhaps, Erik, would you be willing to set up a page on Meta for discussion? Hi Pine, Thanks for the comments!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-18 9:01 GMT-07:00 Sydney Poore : Hi Sydney! > Right now the central hub of the global movement is WMF. Despite other > recent problems. The WMF is doing a great job of regularly communicating > about the world wide movement. > > There needs to be a successful

[Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

Hi folks, Now that the dust has settled a bit, I would like to expand on an idea that’s been touched on a few times (most recently, in an editorial by William Beutler [1]): the notion that WMF might be a more effective organization if it limited its own size in favor of focused spin-off

Re: [Wikimedia-l] any open search engine for web project starting

2016-03-18 21:44 GMT-07:00 SarahSV : > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 5:17 PM, carl hansen > wrote: > >> https://about.commonsearch.org/ >> >> "We are building a nonprofit search engine for the Web" >> >> Sounds alot like Knowledge Engine, if there were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

Congratulations to the Board and to Katherine! It is good to see the organization led by a person with such a strong and proven commitment to human rights, access to knowledge, and transparency. I've also been deeply impressed by all the work Katherine has done in her previous role at WMF. Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: A conversation?

2016-03-09 23:21 GMT-08:00 SarahSV : >> And no, I'm not a fan how things have played out so far, and I'm not >> arguing for just moving on without addressing remaining grievances. >> But this isn't how we should move forward. > Erik, what do you see as the alternative?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: A conversation?

2016-03-09 16:56 GMT-08:00 Pete Forsyth : > I feel this message can provide important insight into the dynamics > surrounding James H.'s dismissal, and various people have expressed > interest in seeing it, so I'm forwarding it to the list. (For what it's > worth, I did

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

2016-03-02 23:22 GMT-08:00 Erik Moeller <eloque...@gmail.com>: > Jimmy made a couple of suggestions earlier [1], including to publish > all presentations given to the Board and to have a trusted community > observer. "Nearly all", to paraphrase accurately, and on re-readi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

2016-03-02 22:56 GMT-08:00 Chris Sherlock : > Let’s have the Board meetings be recorded. If they cannot be recorded, > then I’d like the WMF to improve their meeting minutes. Jimmy made a couple of suggestions earlier [1], including to publish all presentations given

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

2016-03-01 21:32 GMT-08:00 Andreas Kolbe : > The gift from the Brin Wojcicki Foundation is of a little bit of interest, > because its public announcement[3][5] came a mere three days after the > Wikimedia Foundation said[9] I see we're moving the goalposts back to an earlier

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

2016-02-29 23:19 GMT-08:00 David Emrany : > so reading your email, we also recall these quotes from the time of the > Stanton Foundation fiasco ? [1] > > "The Executive Director and Chief Revenue Officer agree that in the > future, any grants that are not unrestricted will

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

> Anne, I have mentioned several times in the past few days here on this list > Sue Gardner's 2008 email suggesting that the WMF enter into an "umbrella > relationship/agreement" or "business deal" with Google. In case you missed > it, here is the link again: > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

2016-02-29 19:24 GMT-08:00 Chris Sherlock : > With the greatest of respect, I'm not sure how could come to the conclusion > that general > Internet search was not a core component of the Knowledge Engine. It's important to remember that this is a $250K grant, with a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

Chris, It's good to read you here and on WW. I think you're raising legitimate points that others have also sought progress on. I would just suggest one thing. Right now the Wikimedia Foundation is going through an ED transition, impacting nearly 300 staff members most immediately. The Board's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

2016-02-25 12:19 GMT-08:00 Gayle Karen Young : > I know this isn't easy - not on the Board, not on the senior staff, not on > the staff, and not on Lila. > I'm so sorry and sad for all of us where this has come to, and there is an > enormous amount of goodwill and skill in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why we changed

2016-02-22 1:26 GMT-08:00 Tim Starling : > I don't think it is plausible, given the data collected at: > > > > 25,000 new users were put into an HHVM bucket, so the whole site was > twice as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Post mortems (second attempt)

2016-02-22 1:14 GMT-08:00 Yaroslav M. Blanter : > Absolutely. This is absolutely what happened. At some point I had to state > that if FLOW gets introduced on all talk pages I would stop using talk > pages. I was replied that they are sorry but this is my choice. Our early

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why we changed

Hi Lila, Thanks for the message. I won't go into this and the other aspects of the current situation in detail -- I think this is an important conversation primarily with current staff and active community members --, but I'll respond to a couple points that I think are important, and for which I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Single login - decision 2004

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:34 PM, Keegan Peterzell kpeterz...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is now complete [2]. That wasn't too bad. Nicely done. :-) Kudos to you, Kunal everyone else involved in finally bringing this one home. Eloquence~metawiki ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A transition and a new chapter.

Hi all -- As Lila noted, since January 2008 I've worn many hats at the Wikimedia Foundation, and in the six years before that I was a Wikipedian, MediaWiki developer, and member of the WMF board of trustees. I became involved in Wikipedia when I was 22 years old. :) The Wikimedia movement has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland's new Executive Director will be Christian Rickerts

Thanks for the update, Tim Moritz, and congratulations on a successful search. Christian -- willkommen in der Wikimedia-Bewegung und viel Erfolg! :-) -- Erik Möller VP of Product Strategy, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia OTRS Annual Report

Patrik and everyone else involved in this -- this is pretty amazing work. Thanks for everything you do, and thank you for documenting it so clearly. -- Erik Möller VP of Product Strategy, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Types of allowed projects for grant funding (renamed)

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:19 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Erik seems to be pushing toward a model that favors using OAuth and the MediaWiki API over deep integration that comes with a MediaWiki extension. He recently mentioned this here:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2016

Kudos to the team and to the jury for daring to try something totally new exciting for Wikimania 2016 that sounds just a little bit crazy. :D I am hugely looking forward to being part of this -- and I think everyone who signs up to come will do so in the spirit of exploration adventure in which

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Tilman Bayer joins Product Strategy Department

FYI :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:50 PM Subject: Tilman Bayer joins Product Strategy Department To: Staff All wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi all, It’s my pleasure to announce that Tilman Bayer is joining

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WaPo Wikipedia's 'complicated; relationship with net neutrality

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Jens Best jens.b...@wikimedia.de wrote: Wikipedia Zero should be newly framed as a leading example of Public Free Knowledge. Hey Jens, I think your line of argument here is reasonable, and we are generally thinking in the direction of how Wikipedia can be part

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner interfering with Google results

Hi all, For the record, we've been able to confirm that our fixes, which were already deployed Thursday, immediately addressed the issue on our end. Google also picked up the updated robots.txt already on December 4, according to Google Webmaster Tools. GoogleBot, for better or for worse,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner interfering with Google results

On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: I can confirm that my edit to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ushuaia_%E2%80%93_Malvinas_Argentinas_International_Airport has now fixed the issue in Google search as it relates to that article, but the issue still

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banners (again)

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:29 AM, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipe...@zog.org wrote: I think it's more than worrying that many of the results have the fundraising message as a summary. Yep, this is very problematic. Even though the content is JavaScript-generated, Google crawls it unless it's explicitly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Au Revoir from WMUK CEO

Jon -- Thank you all the hard work for the movement, and for building a great team and great foundations! Hope to see you in different corners of the movement globe. Warmly, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Product Strategy, Wikimedia Foundation ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapters and GLAM tooling

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Indeed, highly specialized tools for the cultural and education sector _are_ being developed and hosted inside Tool Labs or externally. Looking at the current OAuth consumer requests [5], there are submissions

[Wikimedia-l] Update regarding WMF's reporting practices

Hi all -- Starting this month, WMF will be shifting its organization-wide reports from a monthly to a quarterly cadence. This reflects our growth as an organization, and is intended to make important developments more visible internally and externally. == Background == Shortly after Sue became

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapters and GLAM tooling

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:16 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Labs is a playground and Galleries, Libraries, Archives, and Museums are serious enough to warrant a proper investment of resources, in my view. Magnus and many others develop magnificent tools, but my sense is that they're

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Chapters and GLAM tooling

Just pinging this thread -- looking through all the proposals for annual plan grants: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2014-2015_round1/Wikimedia_%C3%96sterreich/Proposal_form https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2014-2015_round1/Wikimedia_UK/Proposal_form

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Android Nearby Feature (was: Re: Community RfCs about MediaViewer)

On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: An answer would be appreciated... I know you've been in touch w/ the mobile web team since this thread, but just to close the loop for the record: Nearby (now re-implemented in native code and with a new UI) is part of

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Guillaume Paumier as Senior Analyst / SF relo

FYI - belatedly forwarding after internal announcement: - - - Hi folks, Guillaume Paumier has been Technical Communications Manager in the Engineering Community Team since early 2011. In this role, he's been instrumental in developing the monthly engineering reports (including all the

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